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| 14:36.44 | r0bin | hi guys |
| 14:36.58 | r0bin | i'm dev for hdmini, msm7227 |
| 14:37.19 | r0bin | so far porting is quite good, but i have an issue with audio |
| 14:37.48 | r0bin | do you have any idea how to change the in-call volume? |
| 14:38.32 | r0bin | my rpc is sent but nothing change, and routing with smem doesnt seems to work |
| 14:39.02 | r0bin | if one of you guys could give a little help it would be greatly appreciated, thanks :) |
| 14:40.18 | r0bin | monitoring incall volume with haret only shows RPC and ADIE update=0, so im not helped here as well |
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| 15:53.07 | r0bin | hi guys, i'm trying to fix incall volume setting on my device (MSM7227) |
| 15:54.03 | r0bin | RPC does not help, and i didnt noticed smem table update. any help greatly appreciated, thanks |
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| 16:07.20 | phh | try another rpc call ? :p |
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| 17:56.50 | arrrghhh | NetRipper, teh logs! |
| 17:57.03 | NetRipper | they dead? |
| 17:57.06 | arrrghhh | they seem to be |
| 17:57.09 | arrrghhh | Application stopped. Please contact your administrator |
| 17:57.10 | NetRipper | will look |
| 17:57.12 | arrrghhh | i figured that was you :P |
| 17:57.15 | NetRipper | err? |
| 17:57.24 | NetRipper | oh wtf |
| 17:57.24 | NetRipper | :P |
| 17:57.54 | NetRipper | oooo fux |
| 17:58.04 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | hey NetRipper |
| 17:58.07 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | how are u? |
| 17:58.14 | NetRipper | good thx |
| 17:58.14 | NetRipper | :) |
| 17:58.17 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :) |
| 17:59.04 | arrrghhh | food tiem, cya guys |
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| 18:14.18 | jonpry | how big is LK? |
| 18:14.33 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | few gigabytes |
| 18:14.33 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | ? |
| 18:15.11 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | hey jonpry |
| 18:15.12 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | how ur |
| 18:15.16 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | TouchPadzz? |
| 18:15.22 | jonpry | ugh. trying to debrick |
| 18:15.31 | jonpry | :( |
| 18:15.36 | jonpry | but i have something working |
| 18:16.40 | jonpry | Cotulla5e4cb05d5, you know about QDL mode? |
| 18:18.37 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | is it that I think? |
| 18:18.52 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but seems |
| 18:19.00 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | debrick word right here |
| 18:19.06 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | ur device in it? |
| 18:19.58 | jonpry | yes |
| 18:20.12 | jonpry | i've managed to upload and run code on it via QDL though |
| 18:20.34 | jonpry | not entirely sure out of what. maybe SMI or SRAM |
| 18:20.52 | jonpry | 0x2A000000 |
| 18:20.53 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | IMEM I guess |
| 18:21.43 | jonpry | need to get a usb link going |
| 18:22.43 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | yes it's IMEM |
| 18:22.51 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | 384 kb |
| 18:22.53 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | should be |
| 18:23.01 | jonpry | sounds about right |
| 18:23.06 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | how u bricked |
| 18:23.07 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | it? |
| 18:23.15 | jonpry | erased a partition on emmc |
| 18:23.36 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | u lucky |
| 18:23.47 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | which one? |
| 18:23.55 | jonpry | p6. sbl3? |
| 18:24.04 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | epic |
| 18:24.06 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | why u did it? |
| 18:24.13 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | are there MPU not enabled? |
| 18:25.16 | jonpry | was an accident really |
| 18:25.43 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | heh |
| 18:26.19 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | how many pads u got? |
| 18:26.45 | jonpry | just 1 |
| 18:27.00 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | anybody ported android already? |
| 18:27.01 | jonpry | LK probably needs at least SMI right? |
| 18:27.16 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | LK needs a lot of other stuffs |
| 18:27.24 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | like interrupts |
| 18:27.46 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | doubt u will able to run it |
| 18:27.56 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | there no ARM7 support inside |
| 18:29.43 | jonpry | i just want a lightweight usb support thing |
| 18:30.04 | jonpry | i'm sort of tempted to highjack the PBL though |
| 18:30.27 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | legacy can be better |
| 18:31.44 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | how is android progress there? |
| 18:31.53 | jonpry | its ok. no touchscreen |
| 18:32.00 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | fast |
| 18:33.06 | jonpry | already running linux |
| 18:33.30 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | yeah |
| 18:33.47 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | so nothing intersting |
| 18:35.06 | jonpry | seems like PBL execs out of rom but uses IMEM for heap/stack |
| 18:35.23 | jonpry | so i've been able to do things like overwrite is usb descriptor tables |
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| 18:36.15 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | u can upload it by parts |
| 18:36.23 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | with warm reset maybe |
| 18:36.25 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | no? |
| 18:36.33 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but how u want to restore it? |
| 18:37.56 | jonpry | i just want to get some information out of the touchpad so i can use it for debugging |
| 18:38.37 | jonpry | no idea how to do it |
| 18:38.51 | jonpry | there are no gpio connected to anything good on the TP |
| 18:39.11 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but u need restore it? |
| 18:39.25 | jonpry | the emmc? |
| 18:39.57 | jonpry | that is going to require a lot of software i think and it will need some sort of debugging |
| 18:40.08 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | maybe |
| 18:40.38 | jonpry | i figure i can pack my flasher with 256kb of data and put it in imem |
| 18:41.16 | jonpry | i figure the emmc is already active as PBL has tried to use it |
| 18:41.32 | jonpry | so really just need to dma it or whatever |
| 18:41.36 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :) |
| 18:42.13 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | u need right location also and etc |
| 18:42.24 | jonpry | i have that stuff |
| 18:42.51 | jonpry | but like i would like to dump the SDCC registers to see how it is setup |
| 18:44.25 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | good luck ... it's hard job |
| 18:45.00 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | nice that there PBL activated on fail boot |
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| 18:51.04 | jonpry | thanks |
| 18:52.26 | arrrghhh | NetRipper, thx for fixing the logs. i don't know if they're updating yet, but the page at least loads properly now :D |
| 18:54.34 | jonpry | Cotulla5e4cb05d5, you think PBL is running on the ARMV7's on APQ8060? |
| 19:00.08 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | on ARM7 |
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| 19:09.06 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | they changed load order... first cpu after long time |
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| 20:38.27 | BlackRa1n | Hello ! :) |
| 20:38.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn! |
| 20:38.50 | BlackRa1n | D: :D |
| 20:39.07 | helicopter88 | lol |
| 20:39.25 | BlackRa1n | what i made wrong btw? |
| 20:39.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | you mean about overclocking? |
| 20:39.47 | BlackRa1n | of sure |
| 20:39.57 | BlackRa1n | I want to finish it |
| 20:40.06 | BlackRa1n | *of course |
| 20:40.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i don't know. i will look at it tomorrow evening and test some overclocking code. today is a bit late, and i'll be busy tomorrow during the day |
| 20:41.05 | BlackRa1n | okay |
| 20:41.11 | BlackRa1n | if you can |
| 20:41.21 | BlackRa1n | atleast try to reply to my PM´s |
| 20:41.23 | BlackRa1n | :) |
| 20:41.48 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | hey Alex |
| 20:42.06 | BlackRa1n | Hey cottula. :) |
| 20:42.24 | helicopter88 | BlackRa1n: stop annoying devs |
| 20:43.11 | BlackRa1n | hey middy.. |
| 20:43.20 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | Alex, is it hard to compile ubuntu / other linux for new architecture? |
| 20:43.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: completely new? ;) |
| 20:44.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | don't tell me you want to run ubuntu on the DSP |
| 20:45.09 | helicopter88 | BlackRa1n: this is not the right channel to talk,let's go to talk on #neopeek or on fb |
| 20:45.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | but anyway, debian/ubuntu is usually compiled natively, cross-compiling some packages is difficult. if you want easy cross-compilation, use gentoo. or openembedded, but gentoo contains more packages and is more frequently updated |
| 20:46.12 | BlackRa1n | ehm... I didn´t come to talk about any crappy things.. |
| 20:46.20 | [acl] | lol |
| 20:46.39 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | yes |
| 20:46.40 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | on Q6 |
| 20:46.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: wazzup |
| 20:46.51 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | CA publish some kernel patches |
| 20:46.59 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | maybe I gotta try |
| 20:47.01 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: fixing my windows .. hurricane rain leaked in from my air conditioners |
| 20:47.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: oh really? is there a gcc/binutils for it? |
| 20:47.15 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | yes |
| 20:47.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: link? |
| 20:47.23 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | https://www.codeaurora.org/patches/quic/hlk/hexagon-linux-20110817.tar.gz |
| 20:47.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: thanks, will look. sounds interesting |
| 20:47.58 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | so |
| 20:48.21 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | there issue, patches designed for some VM layer |
| 20:49.31 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but I think it's fixable somehow ;) |
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| 20:50.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | looks like quic/hexagon has newer stuff than quic/hlk |
| 20:51.04 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | there toolchains only |
| 20:51.10 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | only one patch exist |
| 20:51.13 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | for linux |
| 20:51.17 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | how to detect which kernel version |
| 20:51.22 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | must be used to apply patch? |
| 20:53.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | need to find a file that was not added by them but modified from existing one and search for it in the internet.. basically the copyrights are 2011 so i think any recent linux can be used and compilation errors should not be hard to fix |
| 20:54.11 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | hm |
| 20:54.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1108.2/00657.html |
| 20:55.39 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | hm |
| 20:55.43 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | intersting |
| 20:56.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | these patches are august 17.. so i'd assume you should use HEAD of linux-next.. and probably they will submit new patches (with issues noticed by the people on the mailing list resolved) and within a month or two hexagon will be in linux |
| 20:57.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | It's good to finally see the source for this, and I have a good feeling |
| 20:57.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | about the quality of the code, so it should not be a problem to resolve |
| 20:57.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | the remaining issues in time to get it into the next merge window. |
| 20:57.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | a quote from there |
| 20:57.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | so, maybe linux 3.3 will have it by default |
| 20:58.02 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | main issue still there |
| 20:58.23 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | all fake :D |
| 20:59.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: what do you mean? |
| 20:59.33 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | fake... |
| 20:59.48 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | some kind of action... |
| 20:59.57 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | "Entry into guest-mode Linux under Hexagon Virtual Machine." |
| 21:00.09 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | without vm layer it's not usable directly |
| 21:02.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: btw, here is their git http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/rkuo/linux-hexagon.git;a=summary |
| 21:03.16 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | hm thanks |
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| 21:03.47 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but VM still missing seems |
| 21:04.01 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | I can replace some operations by native ofcourse ... |
| 21:04.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | hypervisor is the part of the new firmware, i think |
| 21:05.16 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | doubt.... |
| 21:06.54 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | bad |
| 21:07.01 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | CA forum |
| 21:07.05 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | full of spam |
| 21:07.06 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :D |
| 21:11.11 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | seems git is abandoned . . . |
| 21:12.45 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | so it's hard, Alex? |
| 21:13.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: i think, it is not very hard, but you need to create packages (ebuild for gentoo or recipe for openembedded) for the cross-compiler and some other stuff. i think it is much easier than getting linux to run there |
| 21:14.14 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | hm |
| 21:14.18 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but why they open sources? |
| 21:15.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | why not? open source development is cheaper than keeping it private nowadays. probably some customers wanted to be able to write their own codecs for DSP |
| 21:16.18 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but they do not provide anything else ;) how to run it |
| 21:16.42 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | it just looks stupid |
| 21:17.51 | BlackRa1n | Bye Guys.. Getting off. (Have to work on my babetta tomorrow) PS: sp3dev don´t forget on me or i will be your nightmare :D (just joking) (All Sorry for OT). BASTA. |
| 21:18.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | because you (i.e., the user of a consumer device) are not supposed to do it. it needs a new firmware capable of acting like a hypervisor. i think they just didn't plan to let anyone run custom code on qdsp when first qdsp6 devices were made. and if you are a hardware vendor and buy qualcomm soc for development, they will certainly provide you with the sources of the latest versions of dsp/modem firmware or whatever |
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| 21:19.12 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | yeah, but why mainstream want to include their work? |
| 21:20.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | why would they not want to do it? the code looks clean. and probably newer SoCs will allow you to run custom code |
| 21:21.29 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | because it's actually nothing. it still "closed". because noone can run it without proper knowledge. what reasons to have such code inside official linux tree which distributes GPL heavy? |
| 21:22.34 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | or they working as "collector of some clean code" without measuring is it useful for GNU/Linux community? |
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| 21:24.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, if someone submits a BSP for a new SoC (omap4 or msm, for example), you cannot run it without proper knowledge as well, right? if qualcomm stops supporting this code in future, the mainline will drop it anyway. if they support it, it does not cause much harm. but i do not know how qualcomm is going to go about allowing users to use it so cannot discuss more on it |
| 21:25.24 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | so it means I can declare/develop my own CPU architecture called "BuLaLa" tomorrow and write clean code for it and they will include it into mainline? |
| 21:25.41 | [acl] | i like that name |
| 21:25.44 | [acl] | bulala |
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| 21:25.59 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | u wanna join? |
| 21:26.07 | [acl] | only if i can make bulalaloader |
| 21:26.12 | [acl] | :-p |
| 21:26.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | as long as you support your code, yes. if you submit patches and then refuse to collaborate, your code will be dropped (like it happened to android code) |
| 21:26.33 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | lol |
| 21:26.43 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | clear... so there a lot of rubbish actually |
| 21:27.05 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | I thought that they have much more sensitivity filter |
| 21:28.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | there is no reason not to have some code as long as it does not break the rest of stuff. if linux developers rejected everything embedded and expensive, linux would be nowhere without the support from vendors. like BSD |
| 21:28.34 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | dunno |
| 21:28.44 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | okay |
| 21:28.48 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | I wrote email |
| 21:28.52 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | maybe somebody will answer |
| 21:28.54 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but I doubt |
| 21:29.50 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but I don't worry, I believe I can build own Hexagon linux with whores and black3.5jack |
| 21:29.51 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :D |
| 21:31.49 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | ok thank u Alex for u explanations ;) |
| 21:31.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway. you can get a devkit/debugging board from qualcomm (maybe you have to be a vendor and buy many SoCs for that.. i dunno, but with omap/tegra/samsung you can buy a separate board for about $1000) and run this software on it (if you buy the hw from qcom, you have the right to demand software support). i think if they decided to use linux, we'll see some media players with it soon. or maybe a phone with an assymetical processing ;)) |
| 21:32.35 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | it's different thing |
| 21:32.49 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | all this "omap/tegra/samsung" just simple cpus |
| 21:33.06 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | while msm they have modem and other functionality it's why all so secured |
| 21:36.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | https://developer.qualcomm.com/develop/development-devices/snapdragon-mdp-msm8660 |
| 21:36.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | looks like you can buy a development board |
| 21:37.46 | bioterror | haha, 13Mpix camera |
| 21:37.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | $1350 lol |
| 21:37.52 | bioterror | my DSLR has only 5 :D |
| 21:38.01 | arrrghhh | 3.61" screen? |
| 21:38.02 | arrrghhh | weird |
| 21:38.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | but that's a NERD PHONE |
| 21:38.19 | arrrghhh | that's a non-phone, phone. |
| 21:38.21 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 21:39.22 | [acl] | take this chat to #neopeek :-p |
| 21:39.35 | arrrghhh | bwhahaha |
| 21:39.41 | bioterror | hard to decide what's the next phone |
| 21:39.58 | bioterror | that galaxy mini is too crippled to be used for serious |
| 21:40.49 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | lol it's really possible to buy |
| 21:40.52 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | lol |
| 21:41.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | lg optimus 3d is the only good phone. tegra phones do not have NEON, qualcomm just sucks (because most hw is controlled by the BP, battery life is poor and audio codec/amplifier is awful) and nokia n9 has old omap3 |
| 21:41.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh yes, and galaxy sII seems fine |
| 21:41.48 | bioterror | they are now bringing SII LTE |
| 21:42.16 | bioterror | and ofcorse new Nexus |
| 21:42.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | hum.. the problem is to find an LTE network first |
| 21:42.29 | arrrghhh | live in states... problem solved |
| 21:42.30 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 21:42.51 | Willd | Or... Sweden |
| 21:42.52 | Willd | :D |
| 21:43.03 | [acl] | fuck dood.. these veggie burgers are not healthy at all .. sorry OT.. but i made myself lunch and these things are horrible for you |
| 21:43.10 | bioterror | http://www.intomobile.com/2011/04/14/finlands-first-lte-network-tested-independent-uk-firm-average-speed-361-mbps/ |
| 21:43.21 | [acl] | explains why these vegetarian chicks are pudgy sometimes. |
| 21:43.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: did you poop because of eating too much greens? |
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| 21:44.32 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: nahh saw the box.. just shocked |
| 21:46.13 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | who know how to solve 6-12 in AB? |
| 21:46.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | what? |
| 21:47.22 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | there small green pigs |
| 21:47.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | how can you play that crap |
| 21:47.51 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | wtf |
| 21:47.58 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | it's cool & cute |
| 21:48.07 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | u missed a lot of |
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| 21:48.37 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:48.43 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | [acl] |
| 21:48.49 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | I always helped u |
| 21:48.52 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | it's ur time to help me |
| 21:48.55 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :D |
| 21:48.57 | [acl] | what.. |
| 21:49.01 | rpierce99 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: you should ask arrrghhh he is really good at that game |
| 21:49.13 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | tell me how shut up this green pigs at the bottom |
| 21:49.17 | [acl] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: i would bro but i have no idea what pigs ur babling about |
| 21:49.24 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | green |
| 21:49.26 | arrrghhh | Cotulla5e4cb05d5, first you throw your phone out the window |
| 21:49.28 | arrrghhh | and then you win |
| 21:49.33 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | lol |
| 21:49.46 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | so it's impossible to finish it? |
| 21:49.48 | [acl] | ohh angry birds ? |
| 21:49.53 | rpierce99 | i've never been that far |
| 21:49.57 | [acl] | jebus havent played that in ages |
| 21:50.01 | arrrghhh | i've never played it lol |
| 21:50.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: have you played the Impossible Game? |
| 21:50.11 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | no |
| 21:50.16 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | yes |
| 21:50.20 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:50.24 | NetRipper | oh man my server ran out of disk space |
| 21:50.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | maybe |
| 21:50.33 | NetRipper | hence the irclog trouble |
| 21:50.34 | NetRipper | :P |
| 21:50.36 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | it was so funny to debug it with only one vibro |
| 21:50.37 | arrrghhh | NetRipper, i'll try to clean up my porn |
| 21:50.38 | arrrghhh | sorry |
| 21:50.39 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 21:50.40 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | but I win |
| 21:50.41 | NetRipper | :P |
| 21:50.41 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :D |
| 21:51.07 | NetRipper | also the public community site has been down all afternoon and seems nobody tipped me off until you mentioned the irclog was down |
| 21:51.08 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | do u hold ur pron encoded into base64 in #htc-linux logs |
| 21:51.10 | NetRipper | :P |
| 21:51.16 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | ? |
| 21:52.00 | NetRipper | ascii porn for the win |
| 21:52.07 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | ohh |
| 21:52.27 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], this game is impossible. now i must return to work :P |
| 21:52.44 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | which game? |
| 21:52.48 | arrrghhh | The Impossible Game |
| 21:52.52 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | what about this sadistic green pigs? |
| 21:53.00 | arrrghhh | dunno |
| 21:53.11 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | rpierce99 tell u good in it! |
| 21:53.18 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :P |
| 21:53.24 | arrrghhh | i couldn't even get past the third obstacle in the impossible game, certainly angry birds is beyond me. |
| 21:53.27 | arrrghhh | Cotulla5e4cb05d5, look what you've done |
| 21:53.37 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | ? |
| 21:53.42 | arrrghhh | rpierce99 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 21:53.45 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | why? |
| 21:53.48 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | okay I back to USB debugging |
| 21:53.50 | arrrghhh | you tell me |
| 21:53.51 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :( |
| 21:53.54 | arrrghhh | lol ok :P |
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| 21:54.02 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | arrrghhh tell u good in it! |
| 21:54.09 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | not working |
| 21:54.09 | arrrghhh | bah |
| 21:54.10 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | :D |
| 21:54.13 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | nah |
| 21:55.05 | rpierce99 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5: i'm decent but I haven't gotten that far, so you're better than I am |
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| 21:55.33 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | so during every WP7 flash I need backup save files and then restore them :P |
| 21:58.14 | NetRipper | x |
| 21:58.20 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | ? |
| 21:58.23 | NetRipper | testing irclog |
| 21:58.27 | NetRipper | table was crashed |
| 21:58.30 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | ohh |
| 21:59.18 | NetRipper | automatic backups without ever cleaning up old ones |
| 21:59.21 | NetRipper | im such a poor sysadmin |
| 21:59.30 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | I am worse :P |
| 21:59.49 | NetRipper | :P |
| 22:05.02 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 22:05.31 | arrrghhh | seems to be workin now |
| 22:05.40 | NetRipper | yea |
| 22:06.24 | arrrghhh | thx dude |
| 22:06.28 | arrrghhh | sorry i didn't catch it earlier :/ |
| 22:06.30 | NetRipper | np :) |
| 22:06.42 | NetRipper | im just glad it is actually used :D |
| 22:06.45 | arrrghhh | hehe |
| 22:06.50 | arrrghhh | i use 'em all the damned time |
| 22:08.12 | Cotulla5e4cb05d5 | don't play with time |
| 22:09.38 | arrrghhh | but... it's fun :D |
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