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| 13:40.22 | fpu | dcordes_: ping |
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| 18:17.53 | fpu | nevermind, got it |
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| 20:11.15 | fpu | yuppi! :-) |
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| 22:41.42 | rah | I want to learn about the structure of the storage on my phone, a motorola dext (android): what gets modified by updating the "recovery", and what gets modified by installing Cyanogenmod |
| 22:41.54 | rah | I can't seem to find anything that explains these matters |
| 22:42.07 | rah | is there anywhere that explains these matters? |
| 22:53.40 | arrrghhh | rah: this is #htc-linux |
| 22:53.58 | rah | indeed it is |
| 22:54.06 | rah | arrrghhh: why are you telling me this? |
| 22:54.18 | arrrghhh | you're asking about moto things in an HTC room? |
| 22:54.26 | arrrghhh | someone might answer you, but chances are slim to none |
| 22:54.33 | arrrghhh | #android is probably your best bet. |
| 22:54.44 | arrrghhh | this room is about porting Android to WinCE phones |
| 22:54.46 | rah | thank you |
| 22:54.48 | arrrghhh | well, porting Linux |
| 22:54.49 | arrrghhh | np |
| 22:55.12 | rpierce99 | meh, cyanogenmod likely overwites /system, recovery is part of the bootloader i believe, used to help flash new roms, not sure, I don't have a native android |
| 22:55.55 | stinebd | recovery isn't part of bootloader |
| 22:56.03 | stinebd | it's a tiny little "android" filesystem |
| 22:56.26 | rpierce99 | stored in a file somewhere? |
| 22:56.33 | stinebd | flash partition |
| 22:57.50 | rah | stinebd: flash "partition"? |
| 22:58.06 | stinebd | yes |
| 22:58.21 | rah | as in, like a disk partition? |
| 22:58.36 | stinebd | basically yes |
| 22:58.51 | rah | so the "recovery" is stored on the same memory as the main operating system? |
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| 22:59.18 | stinebd | on the same MTD, usually |
| 22:59.27 | rah | ok |
| 22:59.30 | rah | what is this "/system"? |
| 22:59.40 | rpierce99 | a flash partition :P |
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| 22:59.54 | fpu | hey guys |
| 23:00.22 | fpu | I'm having blast with Debian on my Leo, but there's one problem left |
| 23:00.26 | fpu | touchscreen works all right |
| 23:00.32 | rah | that would be quite confusing if that's true; it implies a system of identifying partitions that mirrors a file system |
| 23:00.33 | fpu | but after I stop touching it |
| 23:00.42 | fpu | cursor goes instantly into left upper corner of the screen |
| 23:01.29 | rpierce99 | in linux a partition is mounted to a file system location, in this case one of the mtd partitions is mounted to /system ( a folder in the root) |
| 23:01.46 | rah | rpierce99: of course |
| 23:02.00 | rah | rpierce99: but a mount point is not a partition |
| 23:02.24 | rpierce99 | fine, it writes to the /system mount point or a partition on mtd, if you want to get technical |
| 23:02.47 | rah | I do want to get technical :-) |
| 23:03.09 | rah | what partitions are there? |
| 23:03.26 | rpierce99 | different on each phone, that's where a motorola room would be a good idea |
| 23:03.37 | rah | is the root filesystem stored on a partition? |
| 23:03.47 | rah | hmm |
| 23:04.01 | rpierce99 | if we're being technical is there ever a file system not stored on a partition? |
| 23:04.24 | stinebd | yes |
| 23:04.27 | rah | if it's an in-memory filesystem like a ramfs then yes |
| 23:04.36 | rah | or tmpfs |
| 23:04.48 | rah | that's what I'm asking :-) |
| 23:05.14 | rah | is the root filesystem stored on a partition (or is it created in memory?) |
| 23:06.52 | stinebd | it will usually be in a partition |
| 23:08.39 | rah | so if I understand this, the flash storage of an android device is basically treated like a hard disk in a normal desktop system, with various partitions containing different purposed storage space and file systems? |
| 23:09.12 | fpu | I'm told this problem is because of driver in the kernel |
| 23:10.44 | rah | assuming that's the case, I'm wondering if there is any way to backup/restore the entirety of the memory, like dd'ing a disk device under a desktop system? |
| 23:11.19 | rpierce99 | many recovery systems have facilities built in for exactly that |
| 23:11.50 | rah | I see |
| 23:15.08 | fpu | is there anyone here fluent with kernel leo driver? |
| 23:15.19 | fpu | I have code in front of me and maybe there's quick fix |
| 23:15.24 | fpu | it seems to be a bug anyway |
| 23:24.35 | rah | rpierce99, stinebd: thank you for your assistance, you've been very helpful |
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| 23:36.21 | fpu | no idea I guess :-( I'm wondering what happened |
| 23:36.30 | fpu | afaik it worked at some point in time |
| 23:36.32 | fpu | and now it's broken |
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