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| 12:04.06 | lol | hi |
| 12:04.10 | lol | anyone home? |
| 12:04.22 | bioterror | not me, at work |
| 12:07.20 | lol | hmm |
| 12:07.43 | lol | do you know anything about the bcm4329s? |
| 12:07.49 | lol | wyrm is usually on |
| 12:07.56 | lol | but he isn't here at the moment |
| 12:08.18 | bioterror | I know that broadcum sucks bollocks |
| 12:08.59 | lol | i know that too |
| 12:09.24 | lol | although I'm knee deep in them |
| 12:09.35 | lol | and I can't get out! |
| 12:11.25 | bioterror | lol, then you have to wait that someone who had played with it wakes up |
| 12:11.44 | lol | hmm |
| 12:12.10 | lol | I want to just theorise it myself |
| 12:12.24 | lol | but I swear I have tried a billion different ideas... hmmm |
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| 13:50.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi, does someone knows a bit the nexus S: it has a samsung SOC, and we'd like to know if iROM is in secure mode in the nexus S |
| 13:50.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | and if there is already a software to talk to the bootrom |
| 13:51.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | and how to get serial on the nexus S |
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| 14:25.53 | [acl] | [acl]: mmm do you know who is thomas mogensen ? <-- no but he has everyone on his list.. i figured it was one of the fellas |
| 14:26.23 | [acl] | phh: oops . . that was for you |
| 14:26.47 | phh | lol |
| 14:27.43 | [acl] | i figured if stine in on his list.. cant be that bad of a guy |
| 14:29.15 | phh | you know you can add anyone ? :p |
| 14:30.07 | [acl] | i dunno... i tried to add alyssa milano and it didnt work out so well |
| 14:30.14 | raymonddull | lol |
| 14:30.18 | [acl] | she surprisingly had an invite really early on |
| 14:30.35 | raymonddull | lots of celebs did |
| 14:30.44 | raymonddull | most just didnt set one up |
| 14:30.49 | [acl] | ahh ic |
| 14:30.53 | [acl] | well i guess she is a geek at heart |
| 14:30.57 | [acl] | had pics and everything |
| 14:30.59 | raymonddull | nice |
| 14:31.03 | [acl] | figured it was a good time to strike |
| 14:31.15 | raymonddull | i wonder if it was actually her or a publicist doing it |
| 14:31.27 | [acl] | never thought about it |
| 14:31.28 | [acl] | ur right |
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| 20:13.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi, does someone know a bit samsung boot process, for the S5PC110: |
| 20:13.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | * is there a program to talk to the bootrom trough USB? |
| 20:13.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | * is the bootrom secure on the nexus S |
| 20:14.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | * is there serial and jtag if possible on the nexus S |
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| 20:59.17 | ali1234 | GNUtoo|laptop: i have a galaxy s... i haven't looked at it in detail but there's two flashing programs for it... the consumer one is called "keyes" and it sucks. then there's the factory one called ODIN, which seems to support cold flashing |
| 21:02.43 | ali1234 | reading "KIT-S5PC110 Use manual" i see this: |
| 21:02.53 | ali1234 | U-Boot 1.3.4-dirty (May 18 2010 - 23:33:57) for HKDKC110 D Type |
| 21:02.58 | ali1234 | "dirty" |
| 21:03.08 | ali1234 | someone didn't commit git changes before release. oops |
| 21:06.06 | ali1234 | GNUtoo|laptop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877178 |
| 21:15.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | ali1234, hi |
| 21:15.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | there is also that: |
| 21:15.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | heindal |
| 21:16.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | or something like that |
| 21:16.08 | ali1234 | i have not tried that one |
| 21:16.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | Heimdall |
| 21:16.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 21:16.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | paulk, has a nexus S |
| 21:16.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | and it seem a very good phone: |
| 21:16.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | CODEC not attached to the modem |
| 21:17.11 | ali1234 | galaxy s is a nice phone but the software is awful |
| 21:17.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | Baseband has a free lib + a free not-commited yet ril |
| 21:17.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | GPS is unknown but serial |
| 21:18.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | the modem(msm) and the AP talk trough shared memory however according to the leaked samsung docs it's 16KB internal(to the SOC) flash |
| 21:18.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | so it seem separate from the ram |
| 21:18.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | so if I could replace the bootloader with uboot, it would be awesome |
| 21:18.55 | ali1234 | well that's easy |
| 21:19.02 | ali1234 | use the same trick i used on n900 |
| 21:19.21 | ali1234 | wrap up u-boot like it's a kernel and flash it into the kernel flash |
| 21:19.29 | ali1234 | the standard bootloader should boot it |
| 21:20.14 | ali1234 | of course you have to port u-boot to the soc too |
| 21:20.23 | paulk | it seems already supported |
| 21:20.35 | ali1234 | ...and the board also |
| 21:20.46 | ali1234 | but if the soc is supported that is most of the work already done |
| 21:21.02 | paulk | an ARM dev board uses the same SoC and runs with u-boot |
| 21:21.20 | ali1234 | HKDKC110? |
| 21:21.42 | paulk | I don't think so |
| 21:21.43 | paulk | http://www.armdesigner.com/KIT%20S5PV210.html |
| 21:21.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | I want native, after bootrom bootloader |
| 21:21.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | so I need: |
| 21:21.53 | ali1234 | yeah that's the same thing |
| 21:21.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | *Serial + maybe JTAG |
| 21:22.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | *bootrom uttility |
| 21:22.05 | ali1234 | "U-Boot 1.3.4-dirty (May 18 2010 - 23:33:57) for HKDKC110 D Type" |
| 21:22.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | *to know if the fastboot is signed |
| 21:22.40 | ali1234 | but that u-boot is dirty so you might have difficulty obtaining the source |
| 21:22.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | indeed, the SOC has to be supported |
| 21:23.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | else it would be too hard for me |
| 21:23.28 | paulk | seems that Odroid-t uses u-boot too |
| 21:23.36 | paulk | (same SoC also) |
| 21:24.14 | paulk | http://dev.odroid.com/projects/odroid-t/download/note/38 |
| 21:25.50 | paulk | they provide a windows app to rewrite the u-boot in case it was erased or compromised |
| 21:26.10 | paulk | http://dev.odroid.com/projects/odroid-t/wiki/UbootPage#s-7 |
| 21:26.39 | paulk | but it uses their debug board |
| 21:26.57 | paulk | to provide something that looks like serial |
| 21:36.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | back |
| 21:38.35 | paulk | ohhh |
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| 21:38.52 | paulk | there is a download mode |
| 21:38.55 | paulk | that is not fastboot |
| 21:39.38 | paulk | I have kinda serial |
| 21:39.46 | paulk | dmesg says "[46355.785790] cdc_acm 1-5:2.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device" |
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| 21:52.41 | paulk | now it doesn't want to shutdown⦠|
| 21:53.36 | paulk | I wonder if I should remove the battery |
| 21:56.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
| 21:56.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | paulk, did you try something dangerous? |
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| 21:57.13 | paulk | GNUtoo|laptop: I tried download mode |
| 21:57.19 | paulk | that gives a serial |
| 21:57.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah? |
| 21:57.29 | paulk | see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10881763#post10881763 |
| 21:57.49 | paulk | it's used by Odin, the samsung utility to update firmwares |
| 21:58.05 | paulk | I removed the battery and it rebooted without a problem |
| 21:58.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | does it require proprietary software? |
| 21:58.29 | paulk | it seem to run on windows only |
| 21:58.31 | paulk | so yes clearly |
| 21:59.01 | paulk | I don't think it adds anything more to what fastboot can already do |
| 21:59.22 | paulk | I tried to connecte to the serial |
| 21:59.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | does it work with the free uttility? |
| 21:59.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | Heimdall |
| 21:59.42 | paulk | with screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200 |
| 21:59.46 | paulk | and it got stuck |
| 21:59.51 | paulk | I'll see |
| 22:01.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | so Heimdall works for talking to the bootrom? |
| 22:02.41 | paulk | I don't know that |
| 22:04.33 | paulk | it seems for ROMs only |
| 22:05.07 | paulk | perhaps it could be extended |
| 22:08.17 | paulk | heimdall detects the device |
| 22:08.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | paulk> GNUtoo|laptop: I tried download mode |
| 22:08.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | <paulk> that gives a serial |
| 22:08.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | what did you try exactly? |
| 22:08.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:08.47 | paulk | basically, reboot with vol- and vol+ held |
| 22:08.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:09.02 | paulk | at reboot, it goes in "Download" mode |
| 22:09.17 | paulk | that is used to talk with Odin |
| 22:09.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 22:09.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | I wonder how it detects the device |
| 22:09.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | or rather |
| 22:09.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | what it detects |
| 22:09.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | the usb ID |
| 22:09.33 | paulk | perhaps |
| 22:09.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | for omap the USB ID can change between modes |
| 22:10.45 | paulk | ah it works |
| 22:10.46 | paulk | http://pastie.org/2306073 |
| 22:10.59 | paulk | I tried print-pit |
| 22:11.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:11.09 | paulk | it showed various infos about the partitioning layout |
| 22:11.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | what is pit btw? |
| 22:11.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | or PIT |
| 22:11.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah ok |
| 22:11.55 | paulk | so there is bootimage.img |
| 22:12.01 | paulk | SBL znd SBL2 |
| 22:12.05 | paulk | and* |
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| 22:12.37 | paulk | bootimage.img partition is called IPBL |
| 22:12.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | wow |
| 22:13.10 | paulk | then there is PARAM, MISC and then BOOT with the kernel |
| 22:13.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I wonder what does it talks to |
| 22:13.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | the bootrom? |
| 22:13.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | or fastboot? |
| 22:13.36 | paulk | I have no idea |
| 22:13.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | or something after the bootrom and before fastboot? |
| 22:13.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:14.29 | paulk | maybe I can try to dump things |
| 22:15.28 | paulk | anyway with that you can flash the 3 bootloader-related partitions |
| 22:15.34 | paulk | whereas it's not possible with fastboot |
| 22:15.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe better not playing too much with that |
| 22:16.00 | paulk | indeed |
| 22:16.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | it could be dangerous |
| 22:18.11 | paulk | ah and I probably forgot to talk to you about the modem trace |
| 22:18.30 | paulk | if I don't do it now I'll forget tomorrow |
| 22:18.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:18.57 | paulk | so it seems not to use the same interface as ius's lib |
| 22:19.08 | paulk | basically, on the nexus s modem, everything seems done by ioctl |
| 22:19.10 | paulk | IOCTL_MODEM_SEND |
| 22:19.13 | paulk | and IOCTL_MODEM_RECV |
| 22:19.37 | paulk | these are called a lot everytime something modem-related is done |
| 22:19.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:20.03 | paulk | so I guess it's the way the data is sent to the modem |
| 22:20.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:20.44 | paulk | it's a struct with size, id, cmd (these are uint8_t) |
| 22:20.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe organize a meeting between us and morphis and ius? |
| 22:20.47 | paulk | and void *data |
| 22:20.55 | paulk | ok |
| 22:20.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:21.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | since we should do it right |
| 22:21.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | we could just mobdify ius's li |
| 22:21.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | oops |
| 22:21.35 | paulk | yes |
| 22:21.43 | paulk | I'll trace everything that is in data |
| 22:21.46 | paulk | and we'll see |
| 22:21.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | we could just modify ius's lib |
| 22:22.08 | paulk | yes I understood |
| 22:22.18 | paulk | even with the s in the middle of modify :) |
| 22:22.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | but maybe better doing it right |
| 22:22.49 | paulk | yeah working together with ius and morphis is a great idea |
| 22:23.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:23.20 | paulk | another thing that is kinda weird |
| 22:23.33 | paulk | I notices that there are some "hardcoded" operator names in the secril |
| 22:23.43 | paulk | these seem to be used |
| 22:23.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's my touchpad |
| 22:23.58 | paulk | ok |
| 22:24.30 | paulk | e.g. I modified my operator name "F SFR" to "PAULK" on the ril |
| 22:24.40 | paulk | and it showed "PAULK" |
| 22:25.05 | paulk | so we'll probably have to deal with an operator list or so |
| 22:25.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's normal |
| 22:25.16 | paulk | ah? |
| 22:25.26 | paulk | it's the same with the other rils we know? |
| 22:25.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | every lib that talks to the modem does that |
| 22:25.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's for having fancy names |
| 22:25.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | like SFR |
| 22:25.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | instead of SFR| |
| 22:25.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | for instance |
| 22:25.56 | paulk | ok |
| 22:26.06 | paulk | I thought it was something weird |
| 22:26.12 | paulk | but anyway it's not a big problem |
| 22:26.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's even the same with fso I think |
| 22:26.27 | paulk | okay |
| 22:26.35 | paulk | so the other thing is audio |
| 22:26.50 | paulk | I didn't find out how audio is sent to the modem |
| 22:27.10 | paulk | basically, in the middle of a call, when everything is established, there are no ioctls |
| 22:27.26 | paulk | so audio fragments aren't sent with ioctls |
| 22:27.59 | paulk | on the alsa code, there is something to notify the secril client that the audio path has changed |
| 22:28.09 | paulk | but seems not to do audio forwarding |
| 22:28.28 | paulk | so either it's the secril-client that does it |
| 22:28.31 | paulk | either the ril itself |
| 22:28.53 | paulk | or the modem is just notified that the audio path has changed and gets the audio by itself |
| 22:29.08 | paulk | and that would mean that it's somehow attached directly to the modem :( |
| 22:29.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah? |
| 22:29.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:29.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 22:29.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes |
| 22:29.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've no idea |
| 22:29.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | I must look |
| 22:30.14 | tmzt | what device? |
| 22:30.19 | paulk | actually, I've no idea about how audio should be forwarded |
| 22:30.21 | paulk | tmzt: nexus s |
| 22:30.35 | paulk | mhh maybe we're out of the scope of this channel |
| 22:30.35 | tmzt | probably pcm |
| 22:30.41 | paulk | talking about samsung stuff |
| 22:30.44 | tmzt | maybe look into the iphone 4 port? |
| 22:30.54 | tmzt | nah, you're fine |
| 22:31.00 | tmzt | it's really linux on mobiles |
| 22:31.06 | paulk | ok |
| 22:31.11 | paulk | iphone4? |
| 22:31.35 | paulk | how would it be related? |
| 22:31.57 | tmzt | http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:32.00 | tmzt | similar soc |
| 22:32.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes indeed similar SOC |
| 22:32.26 | paulk | ah yeah I read that their A4 contains samsung stuff |
| 22:32.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Status |
| 22:33.37 | paulk | ah yes it's indeed the same soc |
| 22:33.37 | tmzt | hah, but no audio support |
| 22:33.59 | paulk | maybe asking on #iphonelinux |
| 22:34.24 | paulk | ah it doesn't exist |
| 22:34.33 | paulk | oh it does |
| 22:34.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes it does and I even know some people there |
| 22:34.54 | paulk | the no-topic things lead me to say a mistake |
| 22:35.05 | paulk | ah right |
| 22:35.28 | tmzt | wow pretty empty |
| 22:35.40 | tmzt | I though they were on a different net (why I never joined) |
| 22:37.20 | paulk | ah just one thing |
| 22:37.39 | paulk | I tried to build the audio libs without the secril client dlopened |
| 22:37.45 | paulk | I made a call |
| 22:37.50 | paulk | and didn't hear anything |
| 22:37.54 | paulk | and the other end didn't also |
| 22:38.06 | tmzt | hmm |
| 22:38.34 | tmzt | see if DaG in #xda-devs knows anything about that, he was major on the gps fix |
| 22:39.09 | paulk | ok |
| 22:40.05 | paulk | he's absent |
| 22:40.09 | paulk | I asked anyway |
| 22:40.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | they switched to freenode |
| 22:44.13 | paulk | mhh no one seems to answer |
| 22:44.26 | paulk | maybe we'll have more luck tomorrow |
| 22:44.43 | paulk | I have to switch computer |
| 22:44.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
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