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00:00.33fpuhmm I'm sometimes chaotic so let me clear this up
00:00.41fpukernel boots with MAGLDR/cLK
00:00.43fpuand system starts
00:00.54fpubut it's completely nonfunctional because, for starters, wifi/touchscreen don't work
00:01.01arrrghhhah
00:01.04arrrghhhyou didn't explain that
00:01.09arrrghhhi thought it didn't boot at all
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00:01.38fpushould sleep more :p
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01:35.15fpuhmm
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05:16.54dcordes_hi fellas
05:33.04fpuhello dcordes_
05:33.48fpuperhaps you got any idea on running regular GNU/Linux from MAGLDR/cLK?
05:34.01fpuyour kernel from ubuntu 0.3 doesn't like it
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05:48.11fpugoodnight guys
05:48.15fpuidlin
05:48.16fpug
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07:01.00hopkinskonghello
07:01.04hopkinskonganyone are here?
07:02.02hopkinskongfpu: did u tried linit to make ubuntu v0.3 boot?
07:03.04hopkinskongfpu: kernel should support booting from MAGLDR, just touchscreen, and network not supported
07:03.32hopkinskongfpu: cuz my slackware with linuxtogo kernel successed to boot
07:04.08hopkinskongfpu: just RMNET, TOUCHSCREEN, AND MODPROBE on BCM4329 not work
07:04.26hopkinskongfpu: I got a SegFault when i probe bcm4329
07:04.37hopkinskongfpu: and kernel Oops:17
07:06.13hopkinskongarrrghhh pls back lol
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11:07.47hopkinskonganyone r here?
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13:55.04fpuhey hopkinskong
13:55.09fpuyeah it boots
13:55.16fpubut there are these issues you listed
13:55.19fpuand boy they are important
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13:57.45fpuMaybe we should someone fluent in Android roms for HD2
13:58.03fpuwhat makes it handle touchscreen and wifi well
13:58.08fpuas opposed to ubuntu
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15:56.16WisTilt2jonpry you around?
16:16.37[acl]WisTilt2: holy crap ur alive
16:17.22WisTilt2hey [acl].  yeah buried with this huge at&t project so this stuff had to take a back seat for past month.
16:17.58[acl]WisTilt2: its all good.. god knows i disappeared here and there before.
16:18.00WisTilt2another couple weeks and im back in play mode, after i take a couple weeks vacation away from here:)
16:18.22[acl]WisTilt2: i'm planning my getway too.. trying to get the hell out of NY to stay sane
16:19.49WisTilt2lol, i know the feeling.  we're taking off in a week for a couple weeks to the coast so my wife can get her sanity back.  she's been putting up with my working 7 days a week on this project and needs some hubby time.
16:20.41[acl]WisTilt2: it's a must.. you gotta keep the wife happy
16:21.07WisTilt2so any new developments?  i see frx07 is out, just reading up on what's new with it.
16:23.01[acl]WisTilt2: well there is always something new.
16:23.32[acl]im working on the light sensor now.. and fix up the 3.5mm bug on thr cdma rhods
16:24.44WisTilt2you still working nand only?  light sensor should be easy to setup.  if you need any register info for that i can fill in the blanks that you might not have.
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16:25.10[acl]WisTilt2: no i try to patch both when i can
16:25.22[acl]WisTilt2: the 3.5mm patch is actually haret only for now
16:26.42WisTilt2you still using this autobuild server?  we never did move it over to the new box.
16:27.00[acl]WisTilt2: You kidding me, i use that thing like i use my kidneys ..
16:27.05WisTilt2lol
16:27.08hopkinskonganyone know about RMNet?
16:27.25[acl]hopkinskong: hunt down cotulla
16:27.31WisTilt2i'll be sure to let you know before we move it but no hurry.  need to finish this project before then.
16:27.39[acl]WisTilt2: Cool..
16:27.48hopkinskonglol
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17:11.54WisTilt2yo arrrghhh
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17:12.54[acl]arrrghhh: look who is alive.. :
17:13.11[acl]now we just need to resurect bzo
17:14.18arrrghhhWisTilt2, !
17:14.20arrrghhhyo
17:14.28arrrghhhhow goes it guys?
17:14.49WisTilt2hey there my friend.  been quite busy with this project so had to cold turkey stay away from here:)
17:15.24arrrghhhhahaha
17:15.38arrrghhhi know how that goes... i haven't been on as much after work, gf has been really getting bothered by it...
17:16.01WisTilt2just checking in to see what's going on.  taking a 2 week vacation in another week but will be back in full force on this stuff when I get back. really missed this stuff but business takes precedence.
17:16.33arrrghhhnice
17:16.34arrrghhh:D
17:16.43arrrghhhreal life does always take precedence... things going well @ work?
17:16.48WisTilt2i see frx07 is out and looks like emwe has pushed some kernel changes to .27 so about to try this stuff out
17:16.49[acl]arrrghhh: you'r gf know how popular you are ?
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17:16.57arrrghhh[acl], define popular :P
17:17.43[acl]arrrghhh: haha.. well i doubt anyone is gonna ask for your autograph, but your name is know all over the place
17:17.50[acl]thing about it.. there is even a fake arrrghhh
17:17.55arrrghhhlol
17:17.57WisTilt2arrrghhh: yes, this at&t project has us pretty buried but well worth it.  about finished then im taking a break.
17:18.50arrrghhhnice
17:19.34[acl]arrrghhh: i did see someone running xdandroid int he train the other day.. that was interesting .. i didnt say anything
17:19.46arrrghhhorly
17:20.24[acl]yup
17:20.27[acl]verizon tp2
17:20.30[acl]poor fool
17:20.34arrrghhhthat's awesome... i've never run into any one in real life (that I didn't tell) about XDAndroid
17:20.35arrrghhhlol
17:20.43[acl]i should have signed his shit ..
17:21.11WisTilt2im looking at the current .27 source, question: anyone having incoming audio probs in a call?  i did a fix to my own .27 running kernel and haven't had a single audio issue for over a month.
17:23.10arrrghhhWisTilt2, i actually have one guy complaining in #xdandroid about that...
17:23.37arrrghhhi haven't had any audio issues myself...
17:24.30WisTilt2if only one person I guess its not a problem.  i noticed it happening on my phone now and then so added 1 line of code in the in-call routing section and it hasn't happened since.
17:24.42arrrghhhhrm
17:24.49arrrghhhi'm guessing this magical line is not in the autobuild?
17:24.54WisTilt2nope
17:25.24arrrghhhwell if it doesn't negatively impact anything, can you pass it to ACL for committness?
17:26.31WisTilt2it doesn't affect anything else, just basically sets up the audio parameter values in a call, which looks like it can be skipped sometimes depending on timing.
17:26.40arrrghhhhrm
17:26.49Detulehey fellas, anyone want to quickly summarize for me what are the drawbacks of running a tickless kernel (rhod400)
17:26.50arrrghhhokie.  i'm sure it'll all be moot when the new acoustic is stable/done
17:27.02arrrghhhbut until then, would be nice to have that in thar if people are having issues.
17:27.11WisTilt2yeah acoustic wont have this funky audio hack switching to deal with.
17:27.15arrrghhhDetule, wouldn't time drift like crazy?
17:27.31arrrghhhi guess i don't really understand the implications of a tickless kernel.
17:27.41Detulehm, it's been on my phone for couple of hours now and it's drifted ~20sec
17:27.59smiley-_hmm.. reminds me that I havent tested if the phone works on my raph100..      but with only 4 hours call time in 1.5 year I guess it's not a big issue if it doesnt work ;)
17:28.09arrrghhhha
17:28.13Detulei am not an expert but it allows the kernel to spend more time idling rather than ticking at a set frequency (100/sec)
17:28.26WisTilt2Detule, which kernel you running that's getting that much drift?
17:29.13Detulejonpry .39.3 configured for tickless....not sure if i would call this drift too much
17:29.21Detulesorry i mean WisTilt2
17:30.19Detulei already had clocksync kick in once an hour using the regular kernels, so if this is indeed the drift on a tickless kernel it wouldn;t make much of a difference
17:31.47WisTilt2clocksync is good to have for sure.  drift is caused by a problem in calling the console driver in printk, causing missed interrupts.  i fixed it some time ago but commit wasn't accepted for the autobuild.
17:32.32Detulesure, i was wondering if a tickless kernel would affect the drift adversely but so far in very limited testing it hasn't
17:32.50Detulewhat i have noticed though is using powerto i see a lot less wake-from-idle interrupts
17:33.02Detuleprimarily gp_timer no longer ticks 100/sec (obviously)
17:33.16Detules/powerto/powertop/
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17:36.52hopkinskongarrrghhh are you here?
17:37.50arrrghhhno
17:38.20hopkinskonglol
17:38.22hopkinskonggreat
17:38.41hopkinskongyou said Coutlla compiled a rmnet into MAGLDR?
17:39.32hopkinskongbut how RMNet work?
17:39.39arrrghhhdude
17:39.42arrrghhhi thought we went over this
17:39.42hopkinskongi mean in Android
17:39.46arrrghhhMAGLDR is closed source
17:39.47hopkinskongokok
17:39.49hopkinskongyes
17:39.56arrrghhhcotulla got rmnet to work in MAGLDR
17:40.00arrrghhhso how he did it, no body knows
17:40.13hopkinskongi mean how rmnet work in Android
17:40.22arrrghhhevidently he had some voodoo dolls and applied it to the radio
17:40.47arrrghhhhow rmnet work in Android... how the hell do i even answer that question?
17:40.48hopkinskongall the NAND rom or ADSD rom booting via MAGLDR, their rmnet works
17:41.00arrrghhhyes, that's because it's using MAGLDR
17:41.05arrrghhhclk doesn't work with rmnet does it...
17:41.25hopkinskongI never tried that
17:41.52hopkinskongbut all rom booting from MAGLDR are using RMNET, right?
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17:43.29hopkinskongand now i just want to try same thing in linux
17:43.53hopkinskongi got a rmnet0, rmnet1, rmnet2 interface
17:44.02hopkinskongand i just want to know the producure
17:44.25hopkinskongi know that ppp is send AT singal to smd0, another AT singal to smd1, than startup pppd
17:44.35hopkinskongbut how RMNET?
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17:48.07arrrghhhsorry, my usb tether connection is SWEET
17:48.44arrrghhhhopkinskong, basically if you're using anything but MAGLDR, you'll have to use PPP
17:48.52arrrghhhno RMNET unless you're on MAGLDR.
17:49.43hopkinskongso the rom booting from magldr (android rom), they are using RMNet or PPP?
17:50.32arrrghhhif it's on MAGLDR you can use RMNET
17:50.43arrrghhhnot sure if that's the default for all MAGLDR ROM's or not.  probably is.
17:50.52arrrghhhnative Android devices all use RMNET AFAIK
17:51.51phh(natice qualcomm android devices*)
17:52.00WisTilt2arrrghhh, noob question: does frx07 have hyc's ril or do i still need to bind mount like before?
17:52.34arrrghhhRIL is now included sir
17:52.43arrrghhhWisTilt2, have you seen the 07 changelog?
17:52.47arrrghhhstinebd did it up right.
17:52.54WisTilt2ok thanks.  i need to change my user conf then
17:53.03arrrghhhphh, thank you for that clarification, i never would've known that :P
17:53.10WisTilt2i briefly read it off the forum but not in detail
17:53.13arrrghhhso does sammy use PPP?
17:53.47phhTI uses ppp
17:53.53phhi've no clue about samsung
17:54.09phhi'm guessing nvidia uses ppp
17:54.39arrrghhhhrm
17:55.41phhi'd say samsung uses ppp (basically, people who don't have 3G modem of their own brands use ppp)
17:56.03arrrghhhah
17:56.09arrrghhhyea, RMNET seems to be very specialized
17:56.19arrrghhhconsidering the hoops cotulla jumped thru to get it workin
17:56.30phhand *CDMA (including WCDMA ie UMTS) is a qualcomm technology ...... :)
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18:06.11WisTilt2stinebd, very nice job on frx07.
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18:18.34WisTilt2arrrghhh: so keyboard backlight was taken out in frx07?
18:18.38[acl]WisTilt2: i dont know enough about audio routing to commit this patch. If it has been tested i guess i cant argue
18:18.53arrrghhhWisTilt2, well... it was changed
18:19.14arrrghhhso kbd backlight is now controlled by userland.  it's far from perfect tho, many have reported the backlight just goes out
18:19.21WisTilt2[acl]: yeah it just makes sure the audio routing call happens each time.  timing issues seem to miss it now.
18:19.25arrrghhhand it happens to me as well... haven't put much time into tracing it unfortunately.
18:19.53WisTilt2so is there a setting in userland to enable it?  mine is always off now
18:20.09[acl]Well i'm not expert so i sent an email to the brethren. If no one complains i'll commit.
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18:20.18arrrghhh[acl], thanks dude
18:20.23arrrghhhWisTilt2, hum... not that i'm aware of.
18:20.30arrrghhhit usually works for me on boot, but after a while it just... stops.
18:20.57arrrghhhassuming it is working, it should fade in/out
18:21.32WisTilt2im running autobuild kernel, the 7/26 rootfs, frx07, no go
18:21.52arrrghhhwhich kernel?
18:22.05WisTilt2.27 latest
18:22.15[acl]where can i get a nice xdandroid tshirt so i can geek out in public
18:22.16[acl]:-p
18:22.37arrrghhhWisTilt2, that should work fine... if you look at 20110716_005117, you can see where emwe changed how the kbd lighting works.
18:23.17arrrghhhwell
18:23.23arrrghhhit's hyc's patch, but emwe pushed it ;)
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18:37.26emwehey WisTilt2. regarding keyboard backlight, you need a config.xml overlay patch for it to work as desired in case auto-bl is on.
18:37.56arrrghhhorly
18:37.57arrrghhh^^ news to me
18:37.57emweWisTilt2: regarding fist incall audio mute, topa has it forever. not looked at patch, yet. this bug is present with and without acoustic.
18:38.23arrrghhhemwe, this is all incoming calls
18:38.28arrrghhhnot just the first...
18:38.32emweall?
18:38.33emwehm.
18:38.44arrrghhhyes.  flipping speakerphone on/off fixes it
18:38.46emwefirst incall has mic and earpiece mute and 9 seconds after usually arm9 freeze
18:38.50emwenot for topa imho
18:38.51emweor?
18:38.51arrrghhhyea
18:38.54arrrghhhthat's a TOPA issue
18:39.04arrrghhhwhat you are describing is a uniquely TOPA problem...
18:39.08emweah damnit
18:39.11arrrghhh:P
18:39.13emwewis patch is rhod only? ;)
18:39.17arrrghhhprobably
18:39.24arrrghhhit'll probably only fix RHOD-only at least.
18:39.59arrrghhhi haven't seen the patch, and if [acl] doesn't understand the audio routing, i probably don't have any chance of grasping it :P
18:40.15WisTilt2hi emwe: so config.xml overlay? any info on forums about how to go about that?
18:40.47arrrghhhemwe, yes please do tell.  i haven't seen any info on this... just assumed it was part of FRX07
18:41.12emweWisTilt2: just go for frx07. it's in the release.
18:41.16emweor built your own.
18:41.23emweheh what... now stop
18:41.24WisTilt2patch should be same on all devices since they use same routing hack.  this patch just assures the audio params happen every call
18:41.44[acl]yeah dood.. audio and me dont mix well.. so i just usually bug jonpry for help
18:41.59arrrghhhhaha
18:42.04WisTilt2emwe: im running frx07 now, no kbd backlight still
18:42.36emweWisTilt2: shouldn't there be a shitload of users complaining if it wouldn't work?
18:43.18WisTilt2would think so.  guess there are a few, including all my 300's so this fixed it for us.
18:43.54[acl]emwe: users havent been good lately at reporting things i think
18:44.08[acl]usually i just hear it frmo argg before anyone else..
18:44.09emwenow plz don't make me push .27 to the rhod, really. thanks.
18:44.29arrrghhhemwe, we do have users complaining about kb bl...
18:44.30emwethat patches have been open in the wild by hyc and his frx06+ build in a while. i just pushed them to mainline on frx07 release.
18:44.36emwebah, stop it now! :P
18:44.45arrrghhhlol
18:44.54arrrghhh[acl], i try to pass on issues, but i don't always do the best at that :P
18:45.16emwedo you rhod400ers have issues?
18:45.30arrrghhhyes
18:45.34arrrghhhbut it seems to work for me at first
18:45.37arrrghhhthen... just goes away.
18:45.38emwelol?
18:45.46emwewith auto-bl on? off?
18:45.50arrrghhhthe front-button lights seem to go with it
18:45.52arrrghhhauto-bl is on
18:45.56arrrghhhi haven't messed with that setting TBH
18:46.18arrrghhhwoah...
18:46.29arrrghhhturning off auto-bl, front button lights AND kbd lights immediately came on.
18:46.36emwewhen slid-out, toggling backlight settings in power ctl widget, suddently ... ahhhh
18:46.44emweexactly....
18:47.04WisTilt2you mean kbd/button lights only work when autobl is off?  thats nuts
18:47.07arrrghhhWisTilt2, can you try to see if that fixes it for you?
18:47.27emwearrrghhh: WisTilt2: i had exactly this behaviour without the config.xml overlay change iirc.
18:47.34arrrghhhhrm
18:47.35emwethat's why i did push the patches with release and not before
18:47.36WisTilt2yep sure did, working fine now
18:48.02emwei am bad a summarizing.... what fixes it? ;)
18:48.06emwes/a/at
18:48.16arrrghhhwell that's odd.  i swear it worked on boot...
18:48.16arrrghhhi know it worked when i first started testing FRX07.
18:48.44WisTilt2yep, autobl off kbd and button lights work, autobl back on and neither work
18:49.25emweso now guys.... whenever somebody reports issues, this rhod here starts to magically attract that. wtf. just opened and kb-bl is off.... (.35)
18:49.27WisTilt2kbd fade working nice also. guess ill run in non autobl then
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18:50.33[acl]this is that the fake arrrghhh ?
18:51.01arrrghhhTP2Hey sorry guys... usb tether isn't workin so well
18:51.21arrrghhhTP2I have a meeting to run in 10 mins, gotta prepare.  I'll bbl.
18:51.28emweman this drives me nuts, really... so either i had luck kb magially always turned on for me or i am blind.
18:51.52emweWisTilt2: ok, can reprod on .35.
18:56.13emweWisTilt2: that "missed audio routing" manifests in mic and earpiece mute?
18:56.33emweWisTilt2: i assume without freezing and arm9 resetting the phone?
18:57.19WisTilt2emwe: i think it only happens when the audio params are not changed to the new values.  that's what that call i added does on every call.
18:57.51WisTilt2seems that sometimes that change doesn't get called, or at least not at the right time
18:58.21emweyap, userland can skip. at leat the new acoustic libs do
18:58.41emwetried to force every update for that topa-incall-bug, but no hope so far.
18:58.55emwei'll let [acl] handle your patch, then ;)
18:59.47emweperhaps that patch fixes topa incall on  .27 ;) we'll see.
18:59.49WisTilt2exactly, i think userland and kernel snd states get flopped now and then so that audio param never sets things up right at times.  toggling speakerphone triggers that param call so where i stuck it there is no way it can not be called now.
19:00.32emwe^^ yeah, in the hope the proprietary libacoustic doesn't decide to skip ioctls on it's own.
19:01.36WisTilt2you know it will:)  htc or qcom aren't going to make things easy on us ya know
19:02.07emweheh.
19:04.43[acl]emwe: if you want you can commit.. im at work still
19:05.36emwe[acl]: no, i can't test without switching sim, and i don't wan't to right now.
19:05.45emwei am fine if you could give it a little test ride
19:05.53emwes/fine/thankful
19:06.05[acl]emwe: i have to go back to winmo and install haret.. more work .lol
19:06.15emwedon't have two rhods?
19:06.24[acl]yeah both nand now
19:06.28emwenaaaahh
19:06.30[acl]one frx6 other BG
19:06.31[acl]GB
19:06.32emweand i have three harets here...
19:06.33[acl]but ill do it
19:06.35[acl]i want to see this
19:06.56[acl]wait i have no service on any of em .. so this is just a sound fix rite ?
19:07.09emweincall especially
19:07.17[acl]i have no service
19:07.21emwelol
19:07.26[acl]the one good rhod i had service bricked
19:07.29[acl]:-(
19:07.47[acl]plan b
19:07.49[acl]release test kernel
19:08.00[acl]let arggg champion feedback and commit when testing is done
19:08.01emwehow about autobuild? ;)
19:08.31[acl]ok.. then commit without testing
19:08.32[acl]:-p
19:08.33[acl]make it easier
19:08.55emweperhaps i am tempted later on ;)
19:08.59emweto test.
19:09.06WisTilt2we tested it for past month on all 15 of our 300's so it works.  it also doesnt break anything else whatsoever.
19:09.21WisTilt2its 1 line of code guys
19:09.26emweworks for one machine variant...
19:09.41WisTilt2that same call happens on all devices in snd.c
19:09.53emwelook, the smd tty patches have been tested on a shitload of devices, but not diam500 and raph800... and now we have the shit
19:10.33emwesomebody still needs to get that fixed. and as good as these patches are.... some machines suffer :/
19:10.33[acl]damn .. those poor guys suffered
19:11.07emwei think i don't have the expertise to fix it... or dunno. trial and error with arrrghhh and his raph800
19:13.54[acl]emwe: we need to use the pigs .. so lets just release a test kernel. I'm sure someone will be happy to make one and spread it like wild fire. Or plan b is to just commit and get ready for feedback.. ooor plan C is to just wrap that 1 line around If_rhod_poop()..
19:14.27emweno, no rhod-only please.
19:14.30emweok, test kernel.
19:15.08[acl]sounds good to me. i'll work with with arg and gang to get it out. I'll reply back when test is done and commit . . sound fair everyone ?
19:15.33emweyap.
19:15.46emwe[acl]: please attract topazers for testing ;)
19:16.03[acl]fine fine.. :-)
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20:57.04emwe[acl]: I already provided arrrghhh with a test kernel to have the people play with.
20:57.47phh(logs are too far) emwe you got it to work ??,
20:58.21emwephh: nah, that was regarding wis incall audio loss fix
20:58.42phh(why the hell is my '?' has been repeated two and a half times)
20:58.44emwephh: i tried today just out of curiosity to read in the phys mem hole on dualdie, no luck. i dunno what else i can try
20:58.46phhemwe: meh.
20:59.19emwethere's been quite some difference in arm/mm but i dunno really what i shall look for there.
20:59.27gnutoodcordes_: ping
21:00.52[acl]emwe: thanks dood..
21:01.22emwe[acl]: your welcome.
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