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15:14.37Alex[sp3dev]GNUtoo|laptop: ping
15:15.11GNUtoo|laptoppong
15:15.16GNUtoo|laptopdid you ping Cotulla?
15:15.33Alex[sp3dev]GNUtoo|laptop: no. i did once, he promised to come after the 16th..
15:16.43GNUtoo|laptopok
15:16.49GNUtoo|laptopwhat did you want to ping me for btw?
15:17.06Alex[sp3dev]i have wl1251 working with psm
15:17.11Alex[sp3dev]and without
15:17.18Alex[sp3dev]you know why it failed?
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15:17.52Alex[sp3dev]because sdio was disabling power to wl1251. so i have commented out the powerdown part. now i'm thinking of how to make it work and actually power off the card when unused
15:18.39GNUtoo|laptopok
15:19.00GNUtoo|laptopdo you have some patches?
15:19.34smiley-thats good news :)  I actually booted your Kovsky 2.6.35 pre-release today
15:20.06Alex[sp3dev]i will commit the hacks as is later tonight. probably proper power management will require to rework sdio driver like omap. or we can just power off the transmitter, but never power down the sdio. should not drain much power actually
15:21.20GNUtoo|laptopok
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15:21.41GNUtoo|laptopso is PSM usefull? I guess you can power the SDIO card
15:21.46GNUtoo|laptop*power off
15:22.37Alex[sp3dev]dunno. my phone is still damn hot and i cannot unplug it (the battery is like 4%, i have just put it to charging). but ping delay has increased from 4ms to somewhat like 60-120. that's a good sign, yeah?
15:22.46GNUtoo|laptopok
15:22.48GNUtoo|laptopyes
15:22.50GNUtoo|laptopit is
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15:40.44Alex[sp3dev][acl]: hey you!
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15:44.06[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: sup my good man
15:47.21Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i think we need to bring more heresy to xdandroid
15:47.47arrrghhhheresy?
15:48.08Alex[sp3dev]yes
15:48.26arrrghhhdo tell
15:48.38[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: ohh snap.. i smell something good coming
15:48.46[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: what do you have in mind ?
15:50.59Alex[sp3dev]i want the following. 1. remove rootfs and move mounting/fsck stuff to initrd and 2. instead of that ugly init script, just have two init.rc files and copy them on the first boot. 3. instead of hacks with supplicant, keymap etc just supply kernel, init scripts, keymaps, acoustic configs in separate .zips so the user chooses the needed combination and it is assembled on the first boot.. so that we can have a single system/initrd and then provide
15:50.59Alex[sp3dev]needed stuff for custom kernels in zips
15:51.28[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: shit i did all that
15:51.54[acl]well not for haret
15:52.07arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], those ideas apply to NAND
15:52.11Alex[sp3dev]well, we need that for haret
15:52.13arrrghhhwhich... [acl] has laid that groundwork
15:52.14arrrghhhwhy?
15:52.25arrrghhhwe don't need that for HaRET.  that's a lot of work for no reward...
15:52.49[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: i tried bringing this over to haret.. but the peeps love their rootfs
15:52.59arrrghhhlol
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15:54.33Alex[sp3dev]yeah, saving time for kernel developers is no reward. in the past someone was against rewriting code and temporarily dropping unsupported boards (remember, we could not boot 35 before we started from scratch and fixed bugs in clocks and gpio), then people are against fixing xdandroid. this way we'll never see acoustic and 2.6.39 working with TI wifi
15:55.05arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], why not focus on NAND?
15:55.08arrrghhhget it up to snuff
15:55.12arrrghhhforget about haret
15:56.06[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: hmm.. you are working on .39 already ? i'll jump on that bandwaggon if u are
15:56.12Alex[sp3dev][acl]: not yet
15:56.56[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: but the good news is i do have a someone workable gb running. I'll share my vendor code once i have a good build.
15:57.25Alex[sp3dev][acl]: workable gb? huh, android is unworkable crap whatever version it is
15:58.11[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: yeah, but i want to move away from the dependence i have to xdandroid and be more flexible.
15:58.49[acl]for example using the raw libhardware legacy that reads the /proc/calibration for wifi nvram to avoid scripts during boot.
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15:59.05[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: lib sensrors that use ioclt instead of /sys entries.. just diff stuff
15:59.08[acl]maybe im bored ?
15:59.09[acl]:_p
15:59.10[acl]:-p
15:59.15Alex[sp3dev]ioctl is evil
15:59.34Alex[sp3dev]whenever you can use text interface instead of binary, do it
15:59.36[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: makes it easy to port tho since code is all written
15:59.39Alex[sp3dev]if it is not xml
16:00.08Alex[sp3dev]so now i want to figure out some wl1251 stuff and need to integrate it to xdandroid properly for emwe to test
16:01.37[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: use atmega microp instead of microp-ng on .39 .. :-) make it easy for me
16:02.41Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i do not want to use htc crap. and emwe has already ported topaz to microp-ng.
16:02.57[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: but thats .35.. think ahead
16:02.58[acl]:-p
16:03.27Alex[sp3dev]you know that android is a hack and most embedded vendors write awful code.
16:03.45[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: yeah but perfection takes time dood..
16:03.54arrrghhhheh
16:03.59Alex[sp3dev]but chromium and meego are cool. when chromeos guys started working on tegra, suddenly all tegra code became clean and most of it got to mainline
16:04.16arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], get them a TP2
16:04.30Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: nah, i got myself a tegra ;)
16:04.39arrrghhhbut i don't!  :P
16:04.58Alex[sp3dev]kill phh, he has a lot of those.
16:05.07phhlol
16:05.08phhonly 2
16:05.12[acl]im still waiting for phh to get me one
16:05.59Alex[sp3dev]but nvidia x11 driver behaves strangely. i have fonts and wm decorations corrupted after suspend. or if i switch consoles..
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16:10.07[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: did we ever decide what to do about that blackstone headset mgr ? didnt you have a patch to kill all that made ?
16:11.22Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i have my 35mm driver but the mic doesn't work. and since it does not work on 35 at all now (something is broken in acoustic right now), it's hard to fix. but anyway, no one uses phones for voice calls. they're just mp3 players
16:11.56[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: i used to think the same thing but when i released the 3.5mm patch for the rhod i got complaints about no Mic.. bastards
16:12.20[acl]then the complaints about the buttons :-\
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16:13.16[acl]dang .. all the heretics are here
16:13.20[acl]emwe: sup dood
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16:13.34emwe[acl]: nothing new since last evening. ;)
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16:13.58[acl]emwe: same here.. maybe more chinese emails but nothing new
16:14.04emweheh
16:14.43emwegoing to check what's the difference in .27 regarding the monodie detection "problem".
16:15.48[acl]emwe: like phh said.. its just magic :-p
16:16.36emwei prefer voodoo then.
16:19.01emwe[acl]: there some *nix fat defragmentation tool?
16:19.12Alex[sp3dev]emwe: fsck
16:19.17Alex[sp3dev]oops
16:19.18arrrghhhOo
16:19.19[acl]fat ?
16:19.19Alex[sp3dev]mkfs.vfat
16:19.22arrrghhhlol
16:19.28arrrghhhthat'll defrag real quick
16:19.42Alex[sp3dev]or mkfs.ext4 longer effect
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16:28.02Alex[sp3dev]emwe: btw, wl1251 is working now
16:28.12emweAlex[sp3dev]: oh congrats!
16:28.20Alex[sp3dev]but you cannot power down it ;)
16:28.34Alex[sp3dev]i'll commit hacks.. but proper power control will need a bit of work
16:32.29Alex[sp3dev]emwe: actually, the 'patch' was to comment out the power off routine because wl1251 driver lost sdio when we disabled the gpios. i think the correct solution will be to always keep sdio power but disable the transmitter vreg when not connected
16:33.10Alex[sp3dev]emwe: will you try it on topa with msm7200a mmc?
16:33.33emweAlex[sp3dev]: if i do the switch to msm7200a-mmc ;)
16:33.48emwei got it pulled, but not enabled.
16:33.56emwetoo many other stuff i try to get a hold of.
16:34.18emwei got data on the rhod/topa, i didn't care about wifi too much, yet.
16:34.46Alex[sp3dev]emwe: it's just writing gpios in pdata.. and i think we could use it for all tiwlan devices - topa,diam,raph,kovs.. someone just needs to add bcm support and we can drop mmc.c
16:35.57emwethought you were on the road to 3.0 ;)
16:36.10Alex[sp3dev]wifi is more important than 3.0
16:36.35emwethx ;)
16:41.42Alex[sp3dev]ok, now i'll probably look into integrating wl1251 to xdandroid. and i also want to figure out camera stuff. i think the only proprietary part left is jpeg encoding/decoding which hopefully isn
16:41.46Alex[sp3dev]isn't hard to rewrite
16:42.30[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: sounds like anti heresy ..
16:42.55Alex[sp3dev]time to try out frx07 i guess
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17:19.32hopkinskonganyone are here?
17:20.24hopkinskongi got a problem on 3G
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17:27.45arrrghhha problem on 3g eh
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17:54.52hopkinskongamm yes
17:55.09krissehi
17:55.13hopkinskonghello
17:55.17hopkinskongi got a problem on 3G
17:55.27krissecan somebody help me a bit with kernel dev for blackstone?
17:55.40krisseI tried using this git
17:56.02hopkinskongdo you know how to using RMNet in linux?
17:56.05krissehttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm
17:57.31krisseI modified the config like I found in another git
17:57.54krissefor raphael
17:58.14krisseas this one should be somehow the same....
18:00.39krisseor can somebody guide me?
18:00.47arrrghhhhopkinskong, for what device
18:01.00arrrghhhcotulla got rmnet working on LEO (HD2) but he patched it in MAGLDR
18:01.02arrrghhhclosed source...
18:01.43krissewhen booting kernel it show kernel dump and freezes after a while
18:01.58krissekernel panic
18:02.00arrrghhhkrisse, autobuild kernel doesn't work?
18:02.25krissewithout modify config ?
18:02.38arrrghhhkrisse, i mean the built kernels
18:02.44arrrghhhfrom the autobuild service?
18:02.47arrrghhhhttp://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/
18:02.59arrrghhhi g2g
18:02.59arrrghhhbbl
18:03.08krisseaah
18:03.09krissenop
18:03.12krissesame error
18:03.37krissethe full error I got after kernel panic is
18:03.51krissenot syncing: attemting to kill init!
18:04.07krisseI think config is wrong
18:04.21krissethen again
18:04.27krisseI use the same config for other repo
18:04.29krissethere it works
18:05.05krisseI'm talking about booting NAND
18:05.10krissenot with haret
18:05.14krisseharet works fine
18:05.39krisseI get very good haret expiriance with 2.6.27.46-1323 of 15/6
18:05.47krisseand 1333 of 27/6
18:05.57krissestable enough to get that on nand
18:06.11krissebut failed
18:12.54[acl]krisse: you realize that the haret kernel doesnt natively run on nand right
18:13.10krisseyes :))
18:13.16krissejust like to know what to modify
18:13.17[acl]krisse: problem solved
18:13.21krisseto get it working
18:13.24krisseon NAND
18:13.47krisseany id how I can start
18:13.53krisseI'm not yet that expiriances
18:14.00krisseand want to learn
18:14.25hopkinskonglo
18:14.26hopkinskonglol
18:14.29hopkinskongi just back
18:14.37hopkinskongyes its HTC LEO
18:14.52hopkinskongbut how RMNet works?
18:14.52[acl]krisse: what device ?
18:14.58krisseblackstone
18:15.50[acl]krisse: i had some guys clone my kernel to get it to boot. Not sure where they left off. You check with them ?
18:16.17krissesure
18:16.24krisseand who is that?
18:16.29[acl]no clue.. i know they were on xda
18:16.35krisse:)
18:16.39krissedamn
18:16.42[acl]on the blackstone forum
18:16.42krissebad luck
18:17.23krissewhere do I get your kernel?
18:17.39[acl]its rhod only
18:17.41[acl]usless to you
18:18.32krisselinux-msm-rhod-nand right?
18:18.51[acl]yeah..
18:18.55krisseI tried this one
18:18.57krisseand id works
18:18.58[acl]ohh there he is
18:19.02[acl]stickman89
18:19.04krissebut hangs
18:19.13[acl]krisse: cuz i told you. its rhod only
18:19.26[acl]krisse: look for stickman89.. he and some other guys had it booting
18:23.39krisseacl: ok thx
18:24.39hopkinskonghow emnet works?
18:24.43hopkinskongrmnet*
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20:26.37fpuanyone here fluent with HD2 stuff?
20:27.01fpuI'm wondering about one thing: does cLK like MAGLDR run in the chain after HSPL? Or does it replace it?
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20:48.33arrrghhhhopkinskong, what do you mean "how rmnet works?"
20:49.21arrrghhh[acl], i have a feeling stickman is gone from the scene... haven't talked to that fewl in ages.
20:50.16[acl]arrrghhh: ohh wells..
20:50.20[acl]there was another dood
20:50.24[acl]who was following him
20:50.28[acl]forgot his name
20:50.39arrrghhhi haven't seen any blackstone devs, at all...
20:50.42arrrghhhthere was a few back in the day
20:50.58[acl]damn
20:50.58arrrghhhcamro was cranking, then killed his device and never saw him again...
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20:51.08[acl]sad
20:51.46arrrghhhi noes
20:51.56arrrghhhnot many devs left across the board dude.
20:52.07arrrghhhneed to get bzo back in it.  DIAM500/RAPH800 users are suffering
20:53.25[acl]really?
20:53.33arrrghhhyea dude...
20:53.34[acl]thought they were the most advanced device
20:53.38arrrghhhlol
20:53.41arrrghhhback in the day
20:53.53arrrghhhit's all RHOD basking in the sweet sweet light of Android dev nowadays.
20:54.03[acl]whats wrong with raph?
20:54.09arrrghhhwell most are fine
20:54.19arrrghhhbut the Sprint (CDMA) RAPH is not happy...
20:54.25arrrghhhthat smd_tty patch blows up their devices
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20:54.32[acl]wtf
20:54.40arrrghhhhell i had one dude say he couldn't get any rootfs to work until before the new RIL
20:54.51arrrghhhthose yokels don't test with us, so their devices fall way behind
20:54.58arrrghhhthen we find out about it months later.  meh.
20:54.59[acl]first time i hear about this
20:55.06arrrghhhsee?  :P
20:55.14[acl]so patch needs to be looked into
20:55.17arrrghhhi'm only finding it out now with the new FRX07 threads
20:58.08[acl]interestamundo
20:58.24arrrghhhi got my grubby mits on a RAPH800
20:58.27arrrghhhbut i haven't had much time to test on it
20:58.38arrrghhhi should just take the damned thing to work, i have plenty of time here (some days :P)
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22:09.12NokserHi
22:09.32Nokseranyone tell me, from get this tools??
22:09.39Nokserhttp://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=smilemacho&logNo=140111998619&parentCategoryNo=53&viewDate=&currentPage=1&listtype=0
22:09.42Nokserthanks
22:09.50arrrghhhfrom get this tools
22:10.26Nokser??
22:10.32arrrghhhmy thoughts exactly
22:10.58Nokserdo you know?
22:11.02Nokser:_
22:11.04arrrghhhi don't know what you're asking
22:11.06arrrghhhso... no
22:11.25Noksersee in this page http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=smilemacho&logNo=140111998619&parentCategoryNo=53&viewDate=&currentPage=1&listtype=0
22:11.44arrrghhhyea i clicked on it
22:11.44Nokserin this site is progress build MSM etc
22:11.45arrrghhhjust a giant log
22:11.50arrrghhhso what
22:12.08Nokseri don't understand
22:12.12arrrghhhneither do i
22:12.21Nokserfrom get this??
22:12.22arrrghhhwhat do you want
22:12.32arrrghhhyou said it
22:12.33Nokseri want get it
22:12.34arrrghhhnot me...
22:12.40arrrghhhi don't know what you're wanting to get
22:12.44arrrghhhthis is just a log
22:12.51Nokseryes but this is a linux tools etc
22:13.05arrrghhhok
22:13.15arrrghhhat the bottom it appears to be running on a windows machine
22:13.15arrrghhhbut ok
22:13.33Nokser... hmm
22:13.39Nokserbut this?
22:13.40Nokserhttp://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=smilemacho&logNo=140110698530&categoryNo=0&parentCategoryNo=53&viewDate=&currentPage=3&postListTopCurrentPage=1&isAfterWrite=true&userTopListOpen=true&userTopListCount=5&userTopListManageOpen=false&userTopListCurrentPage=3
22:13.55Nokseri must build factory image
22:14.01Nokserfrom other parts
22:14.09Nokser*.mbn etc
22:14.27Nokser+NPRG8650.hex
22:14.38Nokseror maybe update
22:14.49Nokserbut QPST not work good
22:14.57Nokserfor me device
22:16.06Nokserany ideas???
22:19.17Nokser....
22:19.47arrrghhhNokser, i have no clue what you're talking about
22:19.52arrrghhhyou must build factory image... ok?!?
22:20.09Nokserand so?
22:20.17arrrghhhyou're not making any sense.
22:20.24arrrghhhlet's start over
22:20.26arrrghhhwhat device do you have
22:20.31arrrghhhwhat are you trying to do with this device
22:22.59arrrghhhlol
22:23.20arrrghhhi'm sure there was a language barrier there.  not sure i would've been able to help him if there wasn't, oh well.
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22:32.59arrrghhhlol
22:33.14arrrghhhit was pretty entertaining.
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23:36.45fpudoes anyone of you know how MAGLDR/cLK differ from HaRET?
23:37.00fpuThe same kernel on one results in functional OS
23:37.21fpuon MAGLDR/cLK in situation when barely anything works
23:37.25stinebdwell first off, haret is not a bootloader
23:37.33fpuI always thought they should work the same
23:37.41arrrghhhlol
23:37.43fpujust load zImage, initrd.gz, and make it execute
23:39.28fpuyeah HaRET is not strictly a bootloader :-) but it loads initrd and kernel, and makes it run, like a bootloader, right?
23:39.47arrrghhhehm... i guess so.
23:39.51arrrghhhwhere are you going with this
23:40.15stinebdwhen you use haret, a lot of hardware has already been initialized. when you use magldr, it hasn't
23:40.50stinebdthus the kernel boot process is effectively much different depending on which way it was booted
23:40.56fputhat's some explanation
23:41.34fpuhmm tmzt said something to me
23:41.41fputhat I think I misunderstood
23:41.49fpubut in light of this makes a lot more sense
23:42.07fpuOn Android booted via MAGLDR hardware works
23:42.22fpuand he said something about init.sh or init.rc in Android
23:42.32arrrghhhfpu, what are you trying to do exactly...?
23:42.41fputhat makes hardware
23:42.42fpuwork
23:42.55arrrghhh?
23:42.57fpuarrrghhh: I want to use Ubuntu for HD2 via MAGLDR
23:43.03arrrghhhohgod
23:43.11arrrghhhyou won't be able to, MAGLDR is closed source...
23:43.20fpuMAGLDR is just bootloader
23:43.25arrrghhhyes
23:43.29arrrghhha closed-source bootloader.
23:43.36fputhe issue lies not in MAGLDR
23:43.42fpubut in Ubuntu/linux kernel
23:43.44fpuas far as I know
23:43.51arrrghhhdoes it work on CLK?
23:44.01fpufunny you ask that, I tried it just today
23:44.08fputhe same issues as MAGLDR
23:45.46arrrghhhhrm
23:45.50arrrghhhit works on HaRET?
23:46.36fpuI don't have WM 6.5 to test it
23:46.40fpubut as far as I know yes
23:46.52fpuit's the "official way" to boot it
23:47.02fpuand almost all hardware works
23:48.18fpuI'm just downloading some rom for HD2
23:48.25fpulet's see what's in this magical init script
23:48.28arrrghhhso flash winmo
23:48.32arrrghhhproblem solved
23:51.00fpuhaha
23:51.12fpuI don't plan on any flamewars
23:51.18fpubut I'd rather keep android in NAND
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23:52.16arrrghhhfpu, well it seems to me if Ubuntu is only supported on HaRET...
23:52.25arrrghhhand if you want to run Ubuntu.. lol
23:53.28fpuwish someone made haret for android ;-)
23:54.35raymonddullgood luck with that
23:55.18arrrghhhharet for android, lol
23:55.25arrrghhhno one wants to boot WinMo from Android :P
23:55.36arrrghhhfpu, i guess i'm confused, ubuntu uses a different kernel on hd2?
23:55.45arrrghhhi guess i'm spoiled with XDAndroid.  one kernel to rule them all
23:56.37fpukernel is from htc-linux project
23:56.44fpuubuntu is just rootfs, it could be any other system
23:57.17fpucan't find HD2 on xandroid page :p
23:57.38arrrghhhi'm confused
23:57.49arrrghhhwell first, XDAndroid does not work with the HD2
23:58.24arrrghhhand second... either i misunderstood you or... something.  i thought you said the kernel won't boot from mag or clk
23:59.32arrrghhh<fpu> but in Ubuntu/linux kernel
23:59.38arrrghhhi guess that statement is what threw me

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