IRC log for #htc-linux on 20110718

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00:13.20LinuxMercedesHey, I'm trying to get a displaylink device working on my nexus one running a chroot debian. The base android system sees my framebuffer and input devices, but they're not present in the /dev tree in my debian chroot. How do I get them to show up?
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00:32.31tmztmknod
00:32.34tmzteasiest way
00:32.36tmztLinuxMercedes:
00:32.38tmztand cool
00:32.49tmztcat /proc/devices
00:32.59tmztmknod /dev/{whatever} c M M
00:33.21tmztor just mount -o bind /dev/ chroot/dev
00:33.25tmztthat works too
00:33.29tmztbut they will be android's layout
00:36.52LinuxMercedesalright
00:36.54LinuxMercedeshmm
00:36.56LinuxMercedesoh right bind
00:37.37LinuxMercedesd'oh
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02:49.38LinuxMercedesDangit how do I build the syscopyarea.ko kernel module?
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03:23.50tmztsame as any?
03:24.02tmztM=/path/to/linux make usually works
03:24.56LinuxMercedestmzt: I'll give it a shot again.
03:25.14LinuxMercedeswait
03:25.18tmztpaste the output here, just short though
03:25.26tmztlike the last line
03:26.12LinuxMercedesNo rule to make drivers/video/syscopyarea
03:27.01LinuxMercedesI hate to ask in here but I can't massage the information out of google =/
03:28.17tmzthere is fine
03:28.21tmztit's what we do
03:28.28LinuxMercedesthanks!
03:28.34LinuxMercedeswait what
03:28.50tmztwhat we don't like so much is trying to figure out what build or whatever you have, then there's -chat for that
03:28.50LinuxMercedeswell, apparently M=drivers/video decided to make all the modules.
03:29.01LinuxMercedesah okay.
03:29.03tmztyou don't use M= in the kernel tree
03:29.08tmztI thought you were building standalone
03:29.15tmztjust make modules
03:29.17tmztmake modules_install
03:29.29LinuxMercedeswell, I'm cross-compiling for my phone.
03:29.31tmztI use INSTALL_MOD_PATH in front of that to keep the arm modules separate
03:29.47LinuxMercedesthat's a good idea.
03:29.51tmztyes, so you add CROSS_COMPILE=/path/to/prefix- and ARCH=arm
03:29.56LinuxMercedeslet me see if this driver works nicely
03:30.00LinuxMercedesyep that's what I do
03:30.33LinuxMercedesTrying to get a displaylink screen working.
03:30.49LinuxMercedesWith the hopeful intent of getting a laptop-ish setup for my phone.
03:31.08tmztwhat's syscopyarea?
03:31.16tmztis it used for displaylink?
03:31.17LinuxMercedesIt's part of the framebuffer libraries
03:31.21LinuxMercedesso yeah
03:31.28tmztit's not msm specific
03:31.29tmzt?
03:31.39LinuxMercedeswhat's msm again?
03:31.45LinuxMercedes(I don't think it is)
03:31.56tmztqualcomm
03:31.58tmztwhat device is it
03:32.02tmztoh
03:32.04tmztnexus s?
03:32.16LinuxMercedesnexus one
03:32.20tmztit is
03:32.25LinuxMercedeswell dang.
03:32.29tmztit's qsd8k/snapdragon
03:32.33LinuxMercedesyeah
03:32.50tmztyou would probably find the kernel source in arch/arm/mach-msm
03:33.10LinuxMercedesokay
03:33.19LinuxMercedesodd, because other drivers pulled from drivers/ work fine
03:33.25tmztsure
03:33.40tmztmost drivers in linux are cross platform
03:33.51LinuxMercedesoh, that makes sense.
03:34.20LinuxMercedeslet me see if it's in the arm branch too.
03:35.13LinuxMercedesI don't see it.
03:36.00tmztyou're right it's shared
03:36.12LinuxMercedesyay
03:36.14tmztwow arm asm would be faster
03:36.24tmztmaybe
03:36.30LinuxMercedeswell, maybe I'll throw that on the list of things to look into
03:37.48tmztbut I don't understand how this is related to displaylink
03:38.36LinuxMercedesThe udlfb module, which is the driver for displaylink stuff, needs these modules.
03:38.56tmztokay
03:39.10tmztit would be better to have dl in the android bitflinger probably
03:39.23tmztlike the X driver that exists for it
03:39.24LinuxMercedesin the which?
03:39.28LinuxMercedesoh, yeah
03:39.31LinuxMercedesthat'd be better
03:39.31tmztto track regions updates
03:39.42LinuxMercedesbut this stuff is horribly experimental and ad-hoc =/
03:40.04tmztyeah
03:40.18LinuxMercedesI'd like to eventually get it more stable and a lot less painful to use
03:40.19tmztit's similar to how the msm's display works, or at least did before nexus one
03:40.39LinuxMercedesI haven't looked into how the G1 worked
03:40.44tmztI don't belive it's using mddi for the main display like the 7k's did
03:42.03LinuxMercedesI'm not sure, to be honest
03:42.47LinuxMercedesdangit, exec format error when I try to insert the modules.
03:43.12LinuxMercedesprobably need a make clean before I make.
03:48.23tmztthat's probably a version issue
03:48.26tmztnot easy to fix
03:48.40tmztyou need to run make oldconfig; make prepare
03:48.50tmztyou also need to have the same version
03:49.03LinuxMercedesyeah
03:49.08tmztyou can look at github.com/tmzt/g2root for some scripts that might help
03:49.18LinuxMercedesI had messed around some with some kernel stuff before I got this, though
03:49.23LinuxMercedesso I'm guessing it might just be that.
03:49.44tmztcopy .config out and make mrproper
03:49.59LinuxMercedesI'll take a look at those scripts
03:53.28LinuxMercedeswhich g2root repository is it? You have about 4.
03:54.23tmzthmm, probably master
03:54.27tmzti'ts been a while
03:54.36tmztit's under my stuff (tmzt)
03:54.41LinuxMercedesokay
03:54.44tmztbecause we shared a repo and I was just managing the git
03:54.55LinuxMercedeswell, your link 404'ed, but you have about 4 related repositories.
03:55.20tmztoh
03:55.24tmztremind me
03:55.30tmzttools for rooting
03:55.33tmztor modules
03:55.36tmztit one of those
03:55.40LinuxMercedesokay cool
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05:06.41LinuxMercedeswell hrm
05:06.53LinuxMercedesclean/rebuild is now not building those modules.
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05:25.51LinuxMercedeswell it'd help if I wasn't buliding for armv5 instead of armv7
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14:20.17[acl]emwe: whats the good news for today?
14:20.57emwe[acl]: that there's a crashing bug in .27 since the keyboard backlight patches. assume a nullptr derefence in microp[klt,ksc]
14:21.12emwehasn't shown up on rhod. think i can reproduce on topa.
14:21.20[acl]interesting
14:21.37[acl]null on microp? dang that should do it
14:22.15emwe*micropklt not initialized or calling some funcs in ksc it shouldn't because it's not inited for non key devices. will see.
14:22.48emwehave you had some [h2w] button pressed strangeness with 35mm usage?
14:23.10[acl]i dont have a device with buttons :-(
14:23.13emweit started/stopped music playing today repeatedly on its own... very strange. hope it's not jit related. enabled that on rhod
14:23.22emweyap, me neither. but i saw that in dmesg.
14:23.49emwewhat's up on your side?
14:23.51[acl]it could be a matter of delay. The h2w is really sensitive to those delays it has
14:24.05[acl]emwe: ill prob bring in light sensor for the rhod.. thats all for now.
14:24.27emweah, might explain it. i get some huge hickups (accompanied with high cpu usage for very long periods)
14:24.30emwedunno what it is.
14:24.41emweloop0 is system image, right?
14:25.02[acl]emwe: need to implement the correct workers for the 3.5mm recognition.
14:25.12[acl]right now we just basing off the interrupt.
14:25.17[acl]but not actually detecting it
14:26.05[acl]in winmo it calls that detect function thats on the h2w driver. that part is scary how similar the codes are :-\
14:26.43emweisn#t that what "insert_headset" is for? that's not the detector, right?
14:26.50emwe( i already forgot everything about it)
14:27.27[acl]there is another fucn that is called i believe to make sure its one of the supperted h2w devices
14:27.32[acl]if it passes the test, then goes to insert headset
14:28.27emwedetection_work?
14:29.33[acl]hmm i dunno let me find the code
14:29.50emwethat's what calls insert_headset() then
14:30.28[acl]yeah thats it
14:30.39[acl]thats what i mean we need to have a worker handle the actual detection
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14:33.17emwe[acl]: that timer is running continuously?
14:34.02[acl]not sure ..
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14:35.41emwehow shall i be, then?! ;)
14:36.17emwefirst need to get this .27 bug sorted and then why ril doesn't detect /dev/smd7 for me here.
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14:36.38[acl]i havent even playe with this new build
14:36.40emwei drop that smd1>smd7 hack in smd_tty on .35 and it now refuses to get data up.
14:36.42[acl]i was looking at the commits
14:36.45[acl]not happy about some of them ..
14:36.54emwekernel?
14:37.01[acl]nahh the xdandrodi
14:37.07emwewhat are you unhappy baout?
14:37.10[acl]but im not userland expert :-p
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14:37.37[acl]the libhardware legacy move to wlan0 ? .. that was unecessary
14:37.59emweoh, wifi. i am keeping out of that business.
14:38.17emwestinebd likely can tell more about it.
14:38.29emweit was for unification i think.
14:39.01emwebmc exposing eth0, tiwlan exposing tiwlan0 resulting in foobar copying in init iirc.
14:41.33emwebbl
14:50.45[acl]i suppose
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15:18.33WyrMHi.
15:19.10WyrMAnybody doing BCM4329 fmradio hacking?
15:20.07phhWyrM: i told you to ask emwe and [acl]
15:20.57[acl]looking for me.. ohh shit im outta here
15:21.00WyrMphh: im doing this now, they are both here. ;)
15:21.12WyrMerr, was.
15:21.18phhLOL
15:50.28emweoh, i only know there was chatter going on for CDMA rhodiums with 4325(?) not having a radio, or it was not enabled. don't know much about fm at all.
15:50.46emweso i am kinda out of that business as well.
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18:07.43marxxhi, anyone with knowledge on msm7201a/msm7200 arm9's memory protection/mapping mechanism? would like to hear some info on it. :) (hope is not too off-topic for "htc-linux")
18:09.23arrrghhhi'd say it's right on topic.  dunno if you'll get an answer anytime soon tho :P
18:10.53phhmarxx: memory protection?
18:10.54phhwhich one ? :D
18:11.16arrrghhhunless phh is around ofc :P
18:11.29phhthe only thing i know is how to disactivate it
18:11.54marxxnice :)
18:12.24phhmarxx: smi or ebi ?
18:12.36marxxperipherals, actually
18:12.41phherrr
18:12.48phhthat will be guess & try
18:13.09marxxyou see: there is a lot of peripherals I can talk to when on arm9
18:13.16marxxbut from arm11, i cant see them
18:13.29phhwhich one do you mean ?
18:14.22marxxany peripheral can't be seem from arm11. if I try to peek any, the cpu faults with data abort
18:14.32marxxwell, let me explain something first:
18:14.49phh(while you explain i'm searching)
18:15.26marxxi'm researching a device based on msm7201a, it runs BREW. i'm trying to get this thing to run linux instead
18:15.53marxxso, since there is msm7201a support on linux kernel, it wouldn't be THAT hard :)
18:16.16marxxbut, as I said, from arm11 side, every periperhal is blocked, or something like that
18:16.27marxxi cant use UART to output debug info :(
18:16.27phh*(0xA82Y0800)=0;
18:16.34phhwhere Y is some value you'll have to find.
18:16.47phhor EBI Y=0, for SMI Y=5
18:16.52phhfor*
18:16.54marxxhmm
18:17.06phhperhaps AXI isn't available for you though
18:17.13phhthat would make sense
18:17.22marxxwhen reversing the OEMSBL, i found two instances of that address: 0xa8240000 and 0xa8250000
18:17.30marxxbut they are not documented :O
18:17.50marxxi tried that
18:17.59phhthere is a +0x800
18:18.40marxxyep, zeroed 0xa8240800, 0xa8250800, 0xa0b00000 (nand mpu), 0xa0e00400 (peripheral mpu)
18:18.54marxxnone actually works, still blocked :(
18:19.11marxxdunno if that matters, but, for example
18:19.50marxxif i try to read any peripheral with JTAG, the data that comes out, is always the lastest that has been succesfully read
18:20.06phhyou've got jtag ? wow ...
18:20.11marxxyep
18:21.07marxxfor example, if i read addr. 0, it returns the first indirect jump from the vector table, says 0xeafffffe (its a branch to itself, just for example lol)
18:21.46marxxthen, if i try to read from a peripheral, it returns the same 0xeafffffe, for every address inside that peripheral addr. range
18:22.19marxxi even tried to inject dream OEMSBL mpu setup code on it, no good
18:22.36phhi'm afraid noone can help here :/
18:22.39phhwe don't have such things
18:22.59marxx:(
18:23.17marxxwell, thats ok, i'll spend some more time on it
18:23.23marxxits just very strange
18:24.50marxxnot even 0xc0000000, which is supposed to be arm11's private peripherals is accessible. how does BREW actually runs on this thing, without being able to access anything
18:25.38marxxdoes QCSBL messes with mpu or something like that?
18:33.46marxxany idea where to look? it seems I'm s.o.l. :/
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18:47.34Alex[sp3dev]actually on msm7200a you need to write to a register to open peripherals above 0x80000000 iirc
18:48.09arrrghhhi think you're missing a 0
18:48.10arrrghhh:P
18:48.21Alex[sp3dev]no way
18:49.22marxxoh, that for both cores or arm11 only?
18:49.24Alex[sp3dev]http://gitorious.org/lk-msm7200a-htc-wince/lk-msm7200a-htc-wince/blobs/master/arch/arm/mmu.c#line52
18:49.33Alex[sp3dev]look there
18:49.41arrrghhhneed moar 0's
18:50.08arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], needs more cowbell
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18:51.59Alex[sp3dev]so what's up with 39 microp? are you rhod/diam guys moving to microp-ng? The problem with current code except that it's unreadable is that it does not set leds in a workqueue and i2c sleeps so if you set a led trigger, it hangs.. anyway i'm planning on moving kovs to 39 and moving my 'rewritten' amss stuff for 35 to 39 so we can integrate acoustic to xdandroid.. but i'm lazy now
18:53.06marxxhmm, i'll check that out. thought that would just apply when using mmu. my mmu is disabled, so i'm accessing everything on a flat addressing scheme/physical
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21:20.34stinebd[acl]: the wifi rename is mainly in consideration of future development... for nand, we don't want to have to muck around with init.rc during boot and that will prevent having to do so in the future, while keeping our divergent code as unintrusive as possible. if you don't like it, fork it :P
21:21.15stinebdsimilarly we now have an abstract hci_attach service for bluetooth
21:21.50[acl]stinebd: nahh its fine.. the libs are part of xdandroid and since everything is userland, it fine the way it is. It would be a pain if i used the same libs for another build. but each build will most likely carry their own libs
21:22.42stinebdwe have a lot of ugly consequences of supporting 18 jillion different devices
21:23.50WyrMabstract hci_attach? what is that?
21:24.09[acl]stinebd: :-p .. all good.
21:24.26stinebd[acl]: i don't like to see my friends upset about code!
21:27.21[acl]stinebd: :-p .. i got used to it. i used to piss of phh all the time
21:28.36[acl]stinebd: any luck with the tpcal script from nand ?
21:28.50[acl]i mean reading the tpcal points from nand
21:28.56stinebd[acl]: we'll be doing that in rootfs soon
21:29.09[acl]merci
21:30.18[acl]thanks to hyc, myself and jb for putting that together. Jb went above and beyond and reversed the whole crc function too, but that would only be useful if we want to write points. but no need.. i wouldnt even want that on real nand.
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21:36.42tmztis lk running as the only bootloader or chained from xip?
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21:40.25[acl]tmzt: chained from xip.. good ol tinboot does the dirty work
21:40.39tmztokay
21:40.48[acl]tmzt: i think even clk does it the same way..
21:40.49tmztthe build system isn't integrated?
21:40.52tmztclk?
21:41.13[acl]cedesmiths lk
21:41.16[acl]for hd2
21:41.35tmztokay, I've been out of thiis a while
21:41.42tmztdon't even have ce hardware anymore
21:41.47WyrMtmzt: hey, long time no see. :)
21:41.51[acl]tmzt: damn.. barbarism
21:42.04tmztWyrM: yeah sombody had you nick for a while
21:42.11tmztI see you are working with bcm stuff now
21:42.43WyrMYeah, trying to get fmradio audio out of the pcm port.
21:43.24WyrMare you also working with bcm4329?
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21:45.51tmztno, I have a g2 HTC with that chip but the screen is damaged
21:46.02tmztwill be a few weeks before I can order a replacement
21:46.17tmztI'm looking forward to a fully open bcm stack though on mobile devices, including full AP and mesh
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21:50.10WyrMi haven't looked at the wlan part.
21:50.45WyrMjust dumped the BT firmware, and found the audio related registers of the uC.
21:51.21WyrMi can enable the port and get fm audio at 8khz mono (as SCO), but i need higher audio quality.
21:51.43tmztit's probably just mono because of patents, seems to be a rule with FM
21:52.55WyrMpatents for fm stereo? lol, never heard this before.
21:54.02WyrMthe fm part does support fm stereo for sure, i can detect stereo carrier. i just can't get the pcm port to output 48khz stereo data.
21:54.28tmztI understood that's why the brooktree chips didn't have it
21:54.33tmztmaybe I'm thinking of somethign else
22:10.11marxxhello peripherals. :) it seems I can see them now! thanks, guys
22:12.56tmztwhich?
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22:55.41cmwim working on an htc device with the a1026 audience chip. Does anyone know where i could get the spec for it?
22:58.33tmztmore like you can get source, or you might just find out somethign about it on the internet
22:58.36tmztif you look
22:58.42tmztwhat device
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22:59.47cmwtmzt: i have the source but i need the spec
23:00.26cmwand as far as i can see it's not on google..
23:03.02emwehtc kernel source iirc.
23:03.23cmwyeah thats what i have.. i'm looking for the datasheet (what i need is missing from the driver)
23:03.54emweouhc, sorry, misread.
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