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| 08:12.36 | pro | hi guys, i have a touch HD, where do i start? |
| 08:13.12 | phh | buy a TP2 |
| 08:13.22 | phh | anything else ? :p |
| 08:14.04 | pro | ok cool, brb, just going to get one |
| 08:14.06 | pro | :D |
| 08:14.21 | phh | :p |
| 08:14.45 | pro | i was actually given this one, and cant figure out how to get android on to it |
| 08:15.19 | phh | usually it's just a big zip to download and extract to sdcard |
| 08:15.57 | pro | but my problem is finding where i download it, lots of sites tell me i can do it, and show me videos of it, |
| 08:16.25 | gauner1986 | hm, nah |
| 08:16.26 | gauner1986 | buy a leo |
| 08:16.29 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 08:16.39 | gauner1986 | buy mine |
| 08:16.42 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 08:16.44 | pro | im in africa, and im poor :( |
| 08:22.37 | phh | forum.xda-developers.com |
| 08:22.43 | phh | blackstone forum |
| 08:25.53 | pro | phh ja, thanks |
| 08:25.56 | pro | i was there anyway |
| 08:26.01 | pro | but i dont like what i see |
| 08:26.21 | pro | the "known Issues" thing |
| 08:26.28 | pro | at the bottom |
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| 08:29.33 | pro | Camera - Not working |
| 08:31.51 | pro | if the camera doesnt work how am i going to make my dodgey home made porn? |
| 08:32.33 | phh | perhaps check other threads |
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| 13:11.58 | lithoc | hi everyone |
| 13:12.24 | lithoc | i have a htc mega with me now and running linux mint |
| 13:13.09 | lithoc | need help to debug the haret |
| 13:14.50 | phh | haret needs debugging ? |
| 13:14.51 | phh | hum :p |
| 13:15.51 | lithoc | not really, mega still doesn;t load properly using haret |
| 13:15.57 | phh | ah sec |
| 13:16.02 | phh | mega is msm7225 ? |
| 13:16.12 | lithoc | yes msm7225 |
| 13:16.32 | lithoc | so far , i'm reading on htc mini , msm7227 manage to run |
| 13:17.01 | lithoc | just wondering i can use their version of haret to run on mega |
| 13:18.13 | lithoc | want to give it a shot |
| 13:18.24 | lithoc | i have a mega collecting dust |
| 13:24.24 | lithoc | really appreaciate if anyone can help |
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| 16:16.04 | DavidOrob | any experienced with digitizer change ??? |
| 16:16.11 | DavidOrob | in HD2 |
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| 16:48.13 | jonpry | hi Detule |
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| 17:05.37 | [acl] | shake n bake |
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| 17:21.58 | Detule | Hi jonpry |
| 17:22.26 | jonpry | so your running ext4? |
| 17:23.07 | Detule | just for one of the partitions (chroot) i keep thinking about doing more testing but the real world intervenes |
| 17:23.18 | jonpry | ah yeah that |
| 17:23.36 | Detule | by the way, disabling BT did not squash that bug |
| 17:23.50 | jonpry | you got power button problems |
| 17:23.57 | Detule | i am thinking what I am experiencing must be the same as arrrghhhs extreme sluggishnes |
| 17:24.15 | Detule | except that my phone is not extremely sluggish, however i do think that osmething is pegging the cpu when the power button stops working |
| 17:24.26 | Detule | there's also some wakelock present bc phone does not sleep |
| 17:24.31 | Detule | top does not refresh |
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| 17:25.36 | jonpry | from what i could tell, the bluetooth wakeup interrupt thing was getting hammered |
| 17:25.46 | Detule | I am in one of these instances right now as a matter of fact |
| 17:25.56 | jonpry | so phone could never sleep because it gets woken up nearly instantly |
| 17:26.05 | jonpry | try cat /proc/interrupts |
| 17:26.12 | jonpry | see if anything is counting fast |
| 17:27.00 | Detule | i can't even wake it up it seems, but i did manage to run GetLog |
| 17:28.39 | jonpry | i was able to wake it using the other front buttons |
| 17:28.47 | jonpry | end/back |
| 17:28.56 | Detule | yeah that worked |
| 17:29.03 | Detule | what am i looking for in /proc/interrupts |
| 17:29.45 | jonpry | do it twice and look for something to increase big time |
| 17:30.00 | jonpry | besides vsync which should be 30hz |
| 17:30.31 | Detule | vsync and msm_i2c |
| 17:30.51 | jonpry | hmm, how much i2c? |
| 17:30.59 | Detule | my dmesg does show i2c errors but i've checked this before and i get those in normal operation |
| 17:31.47 | Detule | 252629.....45sec later 254817 |
| 17:32.13 | jonpry | is that consistent? |
| 17:32.27 | Detule | 45 sec later 257551 |
| 17:32.40 | [acl] | looks like there is some shakin and bakin going on in there |
| 17:32.55 | jonpry | that seems somewhat abnormal |
| 17:33.11 | jonpry | is there a sysfs for tearing down i2c? |
| 17:33.31 | Detule | my dmesg has a bunch of these |
| 17:33.32 | Detule | # |
| 17:33.33 | Detule | [29548.674713] msm_i2c msm_i2c.0: error, status 43c8 |
| 17:33.35 | Detule | # |
| 17:33.36 | Detule | [29548.674835] msm_i2c msm_i2c.0: Error during data xfer 66 (-5) |
| 17:33.41 | Detule | though that error number changes sometimes |
| 17:34.39 | jonpry | that exists on 27 too. although we usually only get i2c traffic on panel backlight adjustment |
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| 17:35.33 | Detule | oh it seems constant right now in my dmesg |
| 17:35.37 | jonpry | Detule, i would look for an msm_i2c directory in /sys and see if there is an enable or something that can be used to turn it off |
| 17:36.51 | Detule | k but as I am doing this via connectbot not sure how effective i'll be |
| 17:37.28 | jonpry | nm, i don't think it will work |
| 17:38.03 | jonpry | maybe its g sensor that thing checks i2c @ 1hz or so |
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| 17:39.15 | Detule | hm not sure if this lends credibility to that, but i dont think this has ever happened while my phone's been on my desk sitting still..... |
| 17:42.42 | jonpry | i wonder what causes that i2c stuff. iirc that didn't used to happen |
| 17:46.16 | Detule | this vsync interrupt is counting fairly fast as well...i would say several thousand a min |
| 17:48.58 | jonpry | should be 1800/min |
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| 17:54.06 | Detule | my crude arithmetic gives me +3500/min |
| 17:54.18 | Detule | also my clock on my phone is stopped |
| 17:54.44 | jonpry | lol |
| 17:55.05 | jonpry | is *timer making interrupts? should be 100hz |
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| 17:58.05 | Detule | scratch that clock not stopped just running very slow (more than an hour behind) |
| 17:59.15 | Detule | gp_timer is making about 450 interrupts /min |
| 18:00.00 | jonpry | it appears as though something is keeping interrupts disabled for so long that interrupts are being missed |
| 18:01.57 | jonpry | just don't know what something is |
| 18:04.11 | jonpry | you can make this happen reliably? |
| 18:04.17 | Detule | nope |
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| 18:04.57 | Detule | i thought enabling swap might fix it but it hasn't made a difference |
| 18:05.21 | jonpry | pretty sure this isn't OOM |
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| 18:08.32 | jonpry | i will try to fix msm_i2c and hope for the best |
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| 18:15.22 | Detule | thanks, that's the only bug i see on this beast after weeks of use |
| 18:16.21 | Detule | the swap is nice as well, usage is pretty minimal during normal operation however if i throw a few programs at it i've seen it go +10MB |
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| 18:19.55 | jonpry | i think the swap adds a little give when its most needed |
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| 20:00.20 | fuzion24 | Is anyone around that has worked with RILD layer fairly extensively |
| 20:04.43 | rpierce99 | i think hyc is the only one who fits that description |
| 20:05.36 | rpierce99 | he's an idler, so if you ask a question he'll read it and get back to you when he's on again if he has an answer |
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| 20:16.31 | fuzion24 | hyc, when you're around let me know =) |
| 20:17.19 | fuzion24 | I am messing around with the RILD of a thunderbolt ... ultimate goal is to be able inspect and change radio image and radio memory |
| 20:18.36 | fuzion24 | have looked over wpthis and gfree pretty extensively .. |
| 20:18.44 | fuzion24 | i can talk to the radio via AT commands |
| 20:18.45 | fuzion24 | http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/Vision/RadioAnalysis |
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| 20:22.23 | Echo31 | hi ftoz |
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| 20:30.23 | hyc | fuzion24: will have to read your link later, can't hit it from my phone right now |
| 20:31.55 | hyc | dunno what devices the thunderbolt uses but you could take a look at my rilspy project on gitorious |
| 20:33.04 | hyc | what exactly are you trying to accomplish? |
| 20:34.04 | hyc | you might also want my patched radiooptions.c in the xdandroid project |
| 20:34.15 | dcordes_ | [[Thunderbolt]] |
| 20:34.15 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Thunderbolt |
| 20:34.57 | Epsylon3 | :) |
| 20:35.15 | hyc | cool... |
| 20:35.49 | dcordes_ | no thunderbolt known in wiki :( |
| 20:36.10 | dcordes_ | fuzion24: maye you can add it? |
| 20:36.33 | hyc | is that a wp7 phone? |
| 20:37.06 | Epsylon3 | android |
| 20:37.41 | Epsylon3 | the G2 ? |
| 20:37.42 | Epsylon3 | http://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon |
| 20:37.44 | [acl] | thunder who? |
| 20:37.51 | hyc | ok, so it shouldn't be hard to figure out |
| 20:37.58 | Epsylon3 | qsd |
| 20:38.05 | [acl] | thundercats |
| 20:38.53 | fuzion24 | hyc, the rild uses /dev/smd0 UART comm, for AT comm with the modem, but does data go this route as well |
| 20:38.59 | Epsylon3 | 768MB ram lol :) |
| 20:39.12 | fuzion24 | hyc android |
| 20:39.18 | fuzion24 | it is REAL similar to the g2 |
| 20:40.19 | dcordes_ | fuzion24: are you asking whether or not networking data goes through /dev/smd0 ? |
| 20:40.29 | Epsylon3 | MSM8655 + MDM9600 |
| 20:40.53 | fuzion24 | dcordes_, |
| 20:40.54 | fuzion24 | yes |
| 20:41.03 | dcordes_ | fuzion24: it doesn't |
| 20:41.50 | dcordes_ | fuzion24: see /dev/qmi0 for data commands and /dev/rmnet0 for the network interface |
| 20:41.53 | dcordes_ | usually |
| 20:41.55 | fuzion24 | does it use https://github.com/tmzt/g2root-kmod/blob/8ee059be367c918fb6346ca0b87d614d7201083a/scotty2/proc_comm.h |
| 20:42.19 | fuzion24 | how are those terminals set up internally to connect to the radio |
| 20:42.33 | fuzion24 | using the interface I listed above Interprocessor communication? |
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| 20:42.51 | Epsylon3 | tmzt :) he is here |
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| 20:46.11 | dcordes_ | fuzion24: shared memory |
| 20:46.18 | dcordes_ | fuzion24: smd = shared memory device iirc |
| 20:46.33 | dcordes_ | circular buffers |
| 20:47.10 | fuzion24 | thanks =) |
| 20:49.09 | fuzion24 | so the radio image |
| 20:49.24 | fuzion24 | where/how is that stored.. its def not stored on the emmc |
| 20:54.09 | Epsylon3 | fuzion24 : when you say radio, its baseband stuff ? |
| 20:54.40 | Epsylon3 | on motorola phones, we have binary files (like firmwares) in etc/motorola/bp_nvm_default |
| 20:56.16 | Epsylon3 | File_Audio(1-8) |
| 20:56.19 | Epsylon3 | File_GSM |
| 20:56.24 | Epsylon3 | File_GPRS |
| 20:56.28 | Epsylon3 | .. |
| 20:57.03 | Epsylon3 | and we use a tool named baseband switcher |
| 20:57.15 | Epsylon3 | to toggle regions (baseband frequences) |
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| 21:15.05 | fuzion24 | yes radio equates to baseband |
| 21:15.36 | fuzion24 | does the baseband only accept signed radio images? |
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| 21:22.22 | rpierce99 | from factory it's locked down like crazy, there are some steps posted here: http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thunderbolt-full-root-and-bootloader-unlock-instructions-20110319/ as well as a link to the group that unlocked it http://chat.andirc.net:9090/?channels=#thunderbolt if you want to ask them about it |
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| 21:33.48 | fuzion24 | thats just the bootloader |
| 21:34.00 | fuzion24 | I dont think the radio has been unlocked for thunderbolt |
| 21:34.38 | fuzion24 | it looks like gfree has the ability to allow you to write to the baseband |
| 21:41.49 | jonpry | its probably easier to mod the radio after its booted |
| 21:46.03 | fuzion24 | Thats what I am trying to do.. |
| 21:46.56 | jonpry | what radio are you going to run? |
| 21:47.55 | jonpry | this has been done before on htc leo. i understand the jist of the process |
| 21:51.49 | jonpry | went something like turn off MPU. put a piece of code in safe piece of SMI that turns garbage off and spins. overwrite vector table to jump to said code. cause an interrupt. copy in your new amss over SMI. set flag that causes the a9 function to stop spinning and jump to init |
| 21:56.09 | fuzion24 | jonpry, ok, and how can I write and read the the baseband memory from kernel/userspace of the application processor |
| 21:56.23 | fuzion24 | from what I can tell there is only the smd interface |
| 21:56.47 | jonpry | the baseband memory is just SMI |
| 21:57.01 | jonpry | but you need to turn off the memory protection unit to gain full access |
| 22:00.18 | jonpry | i'm not familiar with the qsd devices but presumably SMI is just the bottom 64 or 128MB of physical memory. people have typically not had much trouble turning off the MPU |
| 22:00.27 | jonpry | you could always reverse MAGLDR |
| 22:00.33 | stinebd | hah |
| 22:00.36 | fuzion24 | MPU == memory protection unit? |
| 22:00.40 | jonpry | yeah |
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| 22:01.08 | stinebd | an incredibly ironic situation that would be. end up being sued by cotulla for reverse engineering |
| 22:01.42 | jonpry | thats like a nigerian suing for spam |
| 22:02.13 | fuzion24 | http://tjworld.net/wiki/Projects/Bootloader-AP |
| 22:02.40 | fuzion24 | jonpry, any idea how MPU is implemented? |
| 22:03.41 | jonpry | theres just a hardware register you write to |
| 22:04.12 | stinebd | seems complicated |
| 22:04.19 | stinebd | can't we just wrap a winmo dll to do it? |
| 22:04.23 | jonpry | it take ranges of physical address space or something. but there is a global enable if you want to go for the gusto. at least on msm7k |
| 22:06.01 | fuzion24 | jonpry, any idea how the image for the baseband is stored |
| 22:06.20 | jonpry | in nand? |
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| 22:11.52 | fuzion24 | really |
| 22:11.53 | fuzion24 | wtf |
| 22:12.04 | fuzion24 | I was kind of thinking it had its own rom or something |
| 22:12.18 | fuzion24 | why can it only be flashed from the bootloader then? |
| 22:12.52 | jonpry | not sure |
| 22:12.55 | stinebd | i would imagine it's partially protected |
| 22:13.33 | jonpry | nand mpu is more powerful |
| 22:14.01 | Epsylon3 | hmm, you need to compare 2 devices tree from different regions |
| 22:14.17 | Epsylon3 | i think there are some bin files to override default baseband |
| 22:14.35 | jonpry | but anyways, flashing your radio with some homemade contraption is 1. probably not possible and 2. really stupid |
| 22:14.45 | Epsylon3 | inside same country you can have different frequencies if you have different operators |
| 22:16.11 | Epsylon3 | it is the case in france |
| 22:16.21 | fuzion24 | I wanna see if I can change my ESN |
| 22:16.52 | fuzion24 | no particular reason other than to understand the baseband better |
| 22:17.10 | jonpry | thats not going to be in the baseband |
| 22:17.19 | jonpry | its in the mfg tables to some such bs |
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| 22:39.37 | k_linux | hey guys |
| 22:40.02 | k_linux | 2nd try of sense 2.3.3 on HD |
| 22:40.20 | k_linux | that's as far as I get until now |
| 22:41.27 | k_linux | http://pastebin.com/zTHWr1r3 |
| 22:41.39 | k_linux | any help would be appreciated |
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| 22:46.21 | stinebd | does sense replace the settings provider? |
| 22:46.44 | phh | "does sense break anything ?" |
| 22:46.46 | phh | sorry. |
| 22:48.24 | k_linux | stinbd: u mean the apk ? |
| 22:48.43 | k_linux | h |
| 22:49.50 | k_linux | to explain what I did, I mix a desire z / hero roms with init.rc from the 2nd one |
| 22:50.16 | k_linux | it loops now on what I pastebine |
| 22:50.50 | stinebd | oh you're "cooking" |
| 22:50.54 | stinebd | have fun then |
| 22:51.00 | k_linux | thx :) |
| 22:51.37 | stinebd | i find it's easier when the ingredients can be genetically altered ;) |
| 22:51.48 | k_linux | :D |
| 22:52.00 | k_linux | sure |
| 22:53.05 | k_linux | stinebd: is there any GB AOSP stable rom around for HD/TP2/.... ? |
| 22:53.21 | stinebd | not yet |
| 22:53.22 | k_linux | was off for too long that I'm still not updated :) |
| 22:54.12 | k_linux | ok, but kernel & rootfs already support it |
| 22:54.57 | k_linux | phh: still around or time for bed ? |
| 22:54.58 | stinebd | kernel didn't have to change to support it, and rootfs only needed an init binary and init.rc change |
| 22:55.07 | k_linux | phh: how r u btw |
| 22:55.39 | k_linux | stinbd: ok |
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