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| 15:05.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: ping |
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| 16:11.49 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: pong |
| 16:12.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: you must be experienced in getting source code from acer, yeah? |
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| 16:12.59 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: not at all :p |
| 16:13.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: those mofos didn't release the source code for iconia a500. my new toy |
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| 16:21.59 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: hey. bought the iconia? |
| 16:22.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: yep |
| 16:22.27 | emwe | nice |
| 16:22.46 | emwe | so you can finally read your pdfs :) |
| 16:22.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm putting that off until summer. first i need to work on my university project and then finish the nand rom |
| 16:23.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, pdfs are so cool now. i need vim and gcc here ;))) |
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| 19:21.30 | dcordes | hi |
| 19:21.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | hi dcordes |
| 19:22.07 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: what's your uni project about ? |
| 19:23.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: about implementing an sstv decoder/encoder. i'm a ham and some of my friends wanted to have such an app on their phones. so first step will be writing one for linux ;) |
| 19:23.49 | dcordes | ~sstv |
| 19:24.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's an old algorithm that was used even back in the 60's to transmit low-res graphics over radio |
| 19:24.37 | dcordes | ok |
| 19:24.45 | dcordes | sounds interesting |
| 19:24.53 | gauner1986 | they transmitted low res graphics over radio in the 60s? |
| 19:24.55 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 19:25.35 | dcordes | wtf sstv |
| 19:25.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah. i'm using openal (guess what - it sucks. hope it's not because everything i touch sucks) for sound and gtk3 for ui. maybe android ui will come later |
| 19:25.48 | dcordes | apt: wtf sstv ? |
| 19:26.06 | dcordes | apt: wtf fftv. |
| 19:26.13 | dcordes | apt: wtf sstv |
| 19:26.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | apt: foo is bar |
| 19:26.14 | apt | ACTION foo! || <action> bar is bar || <reply> foo is bar bar || foo |
| 19:26.14 | gauner1986 | :D |
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| 19:26.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | ~foo |
| 19:26.33 | apt | from memory, foo is bar |
| 19:26.36 | dcordes | apt: but I only just told you |
| 19:26.36 | apt | You only just told you? |
| 19:26.42 | dcordes | apt: sstv is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow-scan_television |
| 19:26.42 | apt | dcordes: i already had it that way |
| 19:27.19 | gauner1986 | wow it could even handle color pics |
| 19:27.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can even export pron to foreign countries if you have a proper transmitter lol |
| 19:28.05 | dcordes | gauner1986: 'Nasa slow scan image from the Moon.' |
| 19:28.25 | gauner1986 | hm, what a market gap |
| 19:28.57 | gauner1986 | yeah, from the moon! |
| 19:30.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: have you used tmzt's androix x-server? |
| 19:31.31 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: nope I'm not that good with android |
| 19:31.39 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: is it difficult to install/use ? |
| 19:32.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i have not tried yet |
| 19:32.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i'm thinking whether i should disassemble tegra2 xorg driver or just run the shite in android |
| 19:32.56 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: GNUtoo|laptop wrote a small program to write correct audio routing icotls on qsd phones so we can make calls in non-android |
| 19:33.09 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: that's what's thrilling me at the moment := |
| 19:33.23 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: tegra2 ? for what device ? |
| 19:33.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: this is a cool achievement |
| 19:33.29 | gauner1986 | calls in non android still dont work? |
| 19:33.38 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop ping |
| 19:33.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i'm close to fixing sound on nand on kovsky and then i'll dump winmo |
| 19:33.48 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: did you have success with your nexus one wifi ? |
| 19:33.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: my new expensive acer iconia tab a500 |
| 19:34.03 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: sound on nand = sound without wince init ? |
| 19:34.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: yes, sound without wince init |
| 19:34.40 | dcordes | 500 Euros you snob |
| 19:34.46 | dcordes | also wants an ARM tablet |
| 19:35.30 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: I still have a kovsky with broken sound hardware. do you know somebody who wants it for linux development ? |
| 19:35.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | haha. me snob? you snob. everyone in europe and usa can buy phones and tablets with contract for ridiculous prices. and we get everything much more expensive in russia |
| 19:35.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i do know someone. it's you |
| 19:36.42 | dcordes | true I could run latest shr |
| 19:37.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes. you can even try porting shr to nand actually |
| 19:38.00 | dcordes | gauner1986: did you try the [[LK_Bootloader]] on leo ? |
| 19:38.00 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=LK_Bootloader |
| 19:38.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: it is called cLK on leo. meaning cedesmith's LK port |
| 19:39.13 | gauner1986 | dcordes: not really. satisfied with magldr atm. it's missing some features, like rmnet. ^^ |
| 19:39.25 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: I'm looking for the git link to put it on wiki |
| 19:39.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: by using proprietary software you support capitalism! |
| 19:39.51 | dcordes | gauner1986: rmnet, ... ? |
| 19:39.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: link to clk? |
| 19:39.56 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: yes |
| 19:40.26 | gauner1986 | Alex[sp3dev]: havent seen cotulla selling that stuff :P |
| 19:40.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901305 |
| 19:41.06 | gauner1986 | dcordes: mass storage, dmesg dump.. and i'm sure there was some other init stuff |
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| 19:42.04 | gauner1986 | that sstv transmission sounds great |
| 19:42.12 | gauner1986 | lets make a song with that in the background |
| 19:42.18 | dcordes | gauner1986: for mass storage and dmesg you can just boot android. also I so no hurdle in rmnet lack |
| 19:42.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes, not yet I'm working on n900 audio |
| 19:42.37 | dcordes | gauner1986: personally I don't care I'm too lazy to unflash magldr anyway ;) |
| 19:42.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | audio in phonecalls |
| 19:42.43 | dcordes | gauner1986: just want to document |
| 19:42.44 | gauner1986 | GNUtoo|laptop: ye |
| 19:42.47 | gauner1986 | damn |
| 19:42.54 | gauner1986 | clicked on the wrong user |
| 19:42.56 | gauner1986 | sry |
| 19:42.57 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 19:42.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:43.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | I thought you had an n900 |
| 19:43.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | lol |
| 19:43.06 | gauner1986 | dcordes: yeah, it's mainly lazyness |
| 19:43.07 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 19:43.10 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: cool. are you progressing? what's the status ? |
| 19:43.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically we have: |
| 19:43.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | *3g |
| 19:43.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | *registering to network and placing calls |
| 19:43.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | without audio |
| 19:43.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: that's with ofono? |
| 19:43.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | *an activator dumping the audio to disk, aplay can play the result |
| 19:43.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], no |
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| 19:44.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | that's with plain alsa and fsogsmd |
| 19:44.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | so it could be imported to nitdroid and then to replicant |
| 19:44.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | ( since Alex[sp3dev] is interested in android ) |
| 19:44.39 | dcordes | :) |
| 19:44.47 | dcordes | sounds crazy with the disk dumping |
| 19:44.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: why fsogsmd? what's the point in creating several implementations of gsmd daemon and not a single complete port? |
| 19:44.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | plain alsa is needed for SHR |
| 19:44.56 | dcordes | how about dumping it to mem buffer ? |
| 19:45.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], indeed what's the point of creating ofono when fsogsmd already existed |
| 19:45.18 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: isn't freesmartphone ahead of ofono ? |
| 19:45.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: i'm not interested in android, it's just easier to make an android port to msm7k than linux. and linux is too heavy without 2d driver |
| 19:45.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:45.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i don't know. if it is, then i'll spread bad words about ofono |
| 19:45.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes, yes indeed fso is ahread of ofono |
| 19:46.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | and more complete since it does more than just telephony |
| 19:46.19 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: I don't know either. it might support more radios |
| 19:46.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | some ofono backend are misleading btw, like palm pre backend |
| 19:47.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | it uses AT |
| 19:47.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | AT is broken on palm pre |
| 19:47.25 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: when we look at qsd8* we are also close to have in call audio since testing your ioctl programs |
| 19:47.39 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: we just need to *automate it *add handset mode |
| 19:47.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: so you wrapped android libs? |
| 19:47.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], no I did a standalone ioctl activator |
| 19:48.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: based on jbruneaux code? |
| 19:48.19 | dcordes | looks for git link |
| 19:48.35 | dcordes | https://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/uttilities |
| 19:49.07 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: there is a POC tool to activate it and fso-voicall for shr integration |
| 19:49.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | for my excuse it was very quickly written |
| 19:49.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | since I'm doing the n900 port |
| 19:49.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | in reality it has to be integrated somehow in fsoaudiod |
| 19:49.39 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: it works.. and if you ask me it's giant progress |
| 19:49.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok nice |
| 19:49.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | lol |
| 19:50.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | that's surely nice. i guess i'll join you with shr after finishing android port. and looks like we can reuse most dream code |
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| 19:50.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:51.56 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: the shr dream code for kovsky ? |
| 19:52.26 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: how portable are andorid images among kovsky, dream ? |
| 19:52.36 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: (I think it's a good inidcator) |
| 19:52.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: android are not portable. we've rewritten all code except camera and 3d |
| 19:53.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i mean, ril and qdsp5 stuff should be pretty compatible |
| 19:53.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, i need to go. be back in half an hour |
| 19:53.25 | dcordes | cya |
| 19:53.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:53.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | see you |
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| 19:56.02 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: I should recompile fso-voicecall with all variations of the speaker ioctl |
| 19:56.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes, could you refrase? |
| 19:56.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah ok |
| 19:56.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | got it |
| 19:56.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | I don't think so |
| 19:56.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | you already tried that |
| 19:56.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | if I remember well |
| 19:56.55 | dcordes | only for that crazy ioctl |
| 19:57.07 | dcordes | what's it called again ? |
| 19:57.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | VOICE_START ? |
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| 19:57.51 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: no. I will look it up |
| 19:57.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
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| 19:58.43 | dcordes | I better git diff locally |
| 19:59.03 | dcordes | - path[0] = ACDB_ID_SPKR_PLAYBACK; //output |
| 19:59.03 | dcordes | - path[1] = ACDB_ID_INT_MIC_REC; //mic |
| 19:59.03 | dcordes | + path[0] = ACDB_ID_HAC_HANDSET_SPKR; //output |
| 19:59.03 | dcordes | + path[1] = ACDB_ID_HAC_HANDSET_MIC; //mic |
| 19:59.07 | dcordes | HAC |
| 19:59.17 | dcordes | maybe Alex[sp3dev] can give us some insight on HAC |
| 19:59.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah right |
| 19:59.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | you can try |
| 19:59.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | but that was for augmented volume |
| 20:00.16 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: with "ACDB_ID_SPKR_PLAYBACK", "ACDB_ID_INT_MIC_REC" we get a perfectly working speaker mode on htcleo. now we are trying to get handset mode (see diff) |
| 20:00.31 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: I already tried above. it still was in hadset mode |
| 20:00.46 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: which I do not understand. |
| 20:01.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll fix it later |
| 20:01.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'm deep into n900 audio |
| 20:01.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | writing an alsa backend for calls |
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| 20:02.54 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: ok maybe Alex[sp3dev] can give a proposition what to try then |
| 20:03.09 | GNUtoo|laptop | I know what to try |
| 20:03.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll do it after |
| 20:06.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: dunno about HAC, i have not looked into qdsp6, only 5 |
| 20:14.22 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=LK_Bootloader&diff=prev&oldid=4156 is this the uptodate cLK git ? |
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| 20:16.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i would think so |
| 20:16.30 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: maybe HAC is only a kind of parameter to a real mode |
| 20:16.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: commit your changes and i'll update the status table |
| 20:17.28 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: I don't have any cLK changes |
| 20:17.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i mean, to the wiki page |
| 20:17.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah, you're done |
| 20:17.51 | dcordes | ah done already |
| 20:19.05 | dcordes | MMC Boot No add support for reading vfat/ext2 and booting off mmc |
| 20:19.13 | dcordes | gauner1986: there you have a feature lack |
| 20:19.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll look later |
| 20:19.50 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: on htcleo I'm using magldr to load a zImage and initrd.gz from hardcoded vfat mmc location |
| 20:19.58 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: :X sorry |
| 20:20.19 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: had to say it before I forget |
| 20:21.02 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: can you paste cmdline? have you considered combining LK with kexecboot ? |
| 20:21.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway, all the changes left for LK is to drop boot menu (introduced by me and proven useless), add vregs for panel init and wifi calibration atag. and that's about all. |
| 20:21.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: what do you mean by paste cmdline? |
| 20:21.20 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.22 | dcordes | they have ncurses gui |
| 20:21.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: why kexec when we can do a clean boot from nand? |
| 20:21.41 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: parse.. set some boot settings |
| 20:22.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: well. we can set cmdline when flashing linux.. other data like nand layout is passed via atags |
| 20:22.37 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: you could make a "fixed" lkbootloader zImage to load kexecboot with comfortable feature richness and gui |
| 20:22.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 20:23.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i still do not understand why i would need it |
| 20:23.27 | dcordes | I don't either it just came to my mind |
| 20:23.42 | dcordes | because I have considered to use it to work around magldr feature lack |
| 20:23.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: so. our policy is to drop code, not to write new code. lol |
| 20:23.51 | dcordes | maybe you can also use it to steal code |
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| 20:28.53 | jonpry | i like kexec |
| 20:29.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | first make your kernels boot! |
| 20:29.25 | jonpry | with video or without? |
| 20:29.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | with everything |
| 20:29.50 | jonpry | thats a low blow my friend |
| 20:30.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol |
| 20:32.17 | jonpry | and besides, [acl] is going to make it boot |
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| 20:32.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, use your slaves |
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| 20:36.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn i like adb.. i call it warez-uploader |
| 20:37.14 | [acl] | woa.. someone woke me up |
| 20:37.26 | [acl] | should knows |
| 20:37.32 | [acl] | *shoulda known.. |
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| 20:46.30 | [acl] | jonpry: kexec is good. used it for a while before LK |
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| 20:48.15 | jonpry | [acl] LK probably faster yeah? |
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| 21:02.07 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: need to take a nap |
| 21:02.17 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: I'll read the log if you need me for any testing |
| 21:02.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
| 21:02.22 | dcordes | sleep |
| 21:02.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: don't let him do it |
| 21:02.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah ok |
| 21:02.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
| 21:02.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | what's a nap? |
| 21:02.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | doesn't understand a thing |
| 21:03.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's zZzZ.. oops, i'm gotta wakeup and work again |
| 21:03.13 | dcordes | http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nap |
| 21:03.28 | dcordes | 1 |
| 21:03.29 | dcordes | : to sleep briefly especially during the day : doze |
| 21:03.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 21:04.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | I need to finish alsa first |
| 21:04.04 | GNUtoo|laptop | it will be long |
| 21:04.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | (alsa for cmt-speech for n900) |
| 21:05.00 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: you left me curious about what you're gonna try :) |
| 21:05.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's the same thing I was talking about before |
| 21:05.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | cmtspeech is the library that decodes the modem's audio |
| 21:05.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically there is no wiring between sound card and modem |
| 21:05.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | you decode the sound card audio frames |
| 21:05.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | and play them using alsa |
| 21:06.04 | GNUtoo|laptop | I hope it'll work |
| 21:07.13 | dcordes | good luck with it! |
| 21:07.16 | dcordes | good nite |
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