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06:50.48aBiNghi, my phone got stuck at the booting time. How to debug this new kernel? It was based on Linux stock kernel 2.6.32.9. Most of board(Bahamas + MSM7225 CPU) related stuff were ported from HTC kernel 2.6.29. Thanks.
06:53.35aBiNgAny ideas?
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09:21.31cockpoohey cockbodies
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13:17.53bioterrorhttp://www.blogcdn.com/mobile.engadget.com/media/2011/04/motorola-poll-04202011-1303279135.jpg ;)
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14:26.32gauner1986hi Markinus
14:27.04Markinushi
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15:24.09WisTilt2stinebd: have you tested that 2nd raph kernel I put up Saturday by chance?  can't go further until you test that:)
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19:24.27Alex[sp3dev][acl]: here/
19:25.02[acl]:-p .. what it is
19:25.28Alex[sp3dev][acl]: missed a shift and question mark turned into a slash
19:25.49[acl]:-p
19:26.44Alex[sp3dev][acl]: so it still sucks. i have fixed a bug in rpc, now the sound registers, but won't play. guess i need jb to fix that userland stuff again. and i have added some dirty battery charging for kovsky so that it doesn't get stuck in bootloop when discharged
19:27.05[acl]dang all this on your kernel right?
19:27.15[acl]you release that to the public yet? or just one of those hidden gems ?
19:27.19Alex[sp3dev][acl]: rpc is in kernel, charging is in lk
19:27.26Alex[sp3dev][acl]: my stuff is always on git
19:27.39[acl]just wondering if you have someone making builds for testing..
19:28.01Alex[sp3dev]why? if it doesn't work for me, it won't work for anyone else
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19:28.32[acl]believe it or not.. happens to us. Some nbhs wont work on some devices even if they are the same. mad gay
19:29.10Alex[sp3dev]i know fo sho it's because of the way jb handles idle sound endpoint. we had troubles with that already so need to look again
19:30.14[acl]why the hell are these old devices still so expensive on ebay
19:30.20[acl]u figure it would be like $20 bucks..
19:30.25Alex[sp3dev]as for the sim card. if we boot from winmo and disable sd vreg, it still works. my idea is that sim and sd use the same vreg, but amss fakes it via two vreg ids which act like a semaphore. so i think i need to disassemble winmo and look for sim vregs
19:30.39Alex[sp3dev][acl]: buy and X1. that one with the gay case included
19:31.18Cotullagay? u sure?
19:31.39[acl]i tried looking at some on ebay.. but look at the prices
19:31.58Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Ericsson-XPERIA-X1-Unlocked-Bundle-/270736417259
19:32.26Cotullathey are so gayie, so u will need buy skin short pants for X1
19:32.41[acl]lol
19:32.42Alex[sp3dev]might not be gay, but bdsm  fo sho
19:32.46[acl]reserve not met
19:34.27Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: do you know if there is a vreg for sim card? For some reason arm9 crashes if i boot with sim in
19:36.43Alex[sp3dev]ok, i'll go take a shower and continue experimenting
19:37.40Cotullamaybe it just wants something
19:37.55Cotullalike baby
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19:49.37hycWow, I never looked at the Xperia X1 before. seems very similar, is it any good?
19:50.04Cotullano
19:50.10Cotullait's glamur
19:50.15Cotullawith glamur buttons
19:50.22hycheh, that's typical Sony
19:50.37Cotullaso if u have not skin short pants, u should not wear it
19:51.10hychmm, has FM radio enabled, and has front facing camera.
19:51.31hyctwo things people moan about for TP2
19:51.45Cotullathere small unusable kbd
19:51.51Cotullawith glamur buttons
19:51.56Cotullait's more near to RPH
19:51.59hycyeah, I just noticed the keyboard looks inferior
19:52.00Cotullanot to TP2
19:52.13Cotulla5225
19:53.10hychow about the X2?
19:53.18Alex[sp3dev]X2 is not htc
19:53.39hycoh, the X1 was a Sony badged HTC?
19:54.02Alex[sp3dev]yeah, a raphael with wvga screen basically
19:54.13[acl]aka . an abomination
19:54.16hycX2 specs still look similar
19:54.24[acl]but then again the tp2 is an abomination of its own
19:54.29hycheh
19:54.30Alex[sp3dev]i can bet X2 does not use htc amss
19:55.30Alex[sp3dev]X1 looks nice but build quality is extremely awful. like only 10% of all devices don't have a crack in case. or even several cracks
19:56.35Cotullagay-look
19:56.50Alex[sp3dev]ok, tp2 is chinese-look
19:56.55Cotullaok
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19:57.19Alex[sp3dev]and newer devices like DHD are gay chinese
19:57.30[acl]lol
19:58.35hycI'm pretty disappointed, doesn't seem like any of the new dual-core phone designs will have qwerty keyboard
19:58.59Alex[sp3dev]touchscreen sucks, yeah
20:00.10gauner1986nah, ts is cool
20:00.20gauner1986*trolling*
20:00.22gauner1986:D
20:00.32Alex[sp3dev]without hw buttons it's uncool. fingers hurt without a tactile response
20:00.54Cotullaur sensor joystick not cool too
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20:01.04Alex[sp3dev]no it's cool
20:01.05gauner1986hurt.. hm.. cant remember mine hurt at any point
20:01.21gauner1986but keyboard has its advantages, i agree
20:01.37Cotullaopens box with rubbish to get x1 and troll alex
20:01.41Alex[sp3dev]i got used to optical joystick, it is quite useful to scroll web pages or navigate in file manager
20:01.56Cotullaand this start up vibro
20:02.04Cotullasounds like old soviet union alarm
20:02.10gauner1986lol
20:02.31Cotullalike spoon on metal
20:02.33[acl]does it have a CCCP logo on it
20:02.52Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: not like i like X1, but there's no decent phone out. i mean, A9 ones. and buying an n900 or some other old device is a waste of money
20:03.07Cotullabut why they implement dual joystick
20:03.11Cotullawith sensor and hw
20:03.14Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: because they can
20:03.22CotullaAlex, I just tried and wanna got some fun
20:03.23Cotulla:D
20:03.57hycHm, how's Moto Droid 2 Global?
20:03.58Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: i'm tired too. but i will have 4-day weekend and you won't
20:04.10Cotullasoft keys also strange
20:05.20Alex[sp3dev]hyc: i don't need a new phone. i want to finish porting android to x1 first. and then i need a tablet, because i like reading and reading pdf on a 3 inch screen of X1 is horrible. and slow
20:05.45hycheh
20:05.48Cotullaas well border]
20:05.50Cotullaof screen
20:06.05hycI don't like tablets
20:06.06CotullaWallaby <3
20:06.08Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: border is good.. when you drop the phone with screen downwards
20:06.20hyctoo big for a pocket, so you might as well just carry a notebook
20:06.47Cotullaokay boring
20:06.57Cotullaturn off X1 and drop it back to box
20:07.34Alex[sp3dev]hyc: my laptop is large. uncomfortable to use in suburban train. and it lasts only 2 hours. but yeah, i'm thinking of buying a netbook if i find one with core i3 and >9 hours battery life. too bad they have no touchscreen. it's not a problem to mount one, but a rotating screen would be nice
20:12.11gauner1986hm
20:12.14gauner1986it's summer already here
20:12.19gauner198625°c
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20:12.28gauner1986quite unusual for this time of the year
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20:12.55Alex[sp3dev]gauner1986: you stole our summer, you little mofo
20:14.42gauner1986i did hide an easteregg in your garden for that ;)
20:18.03bioterrorAlex[sp3dev], I had to ask. what about battery on android. does it last even one day? :)
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20:19.16Alex[sp3dev]bioterror: yeah, but its day has only 5 hours
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20:20.36hycmy TP2 will last in standby for ~3 days
20:20.41hycactive use, about 15 hours
20:21.41Alex[sp3dev]i dunno. in winmo the current is around 150 mA, in linux before mounting rootfs already 400. I am planning to devote some time to fixing it this week, probably just some gpio drains
20:22.22WisTilt2Alex[sp3dev]: dont know if this will help you but when I was messing with sd card power I found that turning off sdslot vreg killed sim also, but only on cdma devices. Looks to use same vreg but different gpios.
20:22.40Cotullabut vreg isn't gpio
20:22.46Cotullait's PM7050 pins
20:22.48hycdo you already have a measurement with e.g. all gpios off?
20:23.30Alex[sp3dev]WisTilt2: the problem is that it works on a boot from wince, so my guess is that one physical vreg may be under two dex ids and we need to enable both
20:23.36hycwouldn't be usable of course, but that would establish your lower bound
20:24.02Alex[sp3dev]hyc: i will try tomorrow with an ammeter connected
20:26.23hycWisTilt2; how can the system stay running with sdslot turned off? given that the whole OS is running off sd?
20:27.21Alex[sp3dev]hyc: sdslot power is turned on and off when mounting rootfs and that's where it hangs with sim actually
20:27.26WisTilt2got me, current code turns off vreg in sleep and powers back on in wake.
20:28.32hycinteresting
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20:35.14Alex[sp3dev]okay, i have commented out the dex call in vreg_disable and it boots with sim in. so either i'll find that vreg in the disassembly or brute-force it
20:36.54WisTilt2looks like the gpio is used to detect when sd card or sim are there so nothing to do with power.
20:38.02Alex[sp3dev]i'm just telling you the result - disabling disabling vreg fixes everything. just fyi, i always boot with both sd and sim, so gpio should be irrelevant
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21:25.38hychm, T-Mobile sidekick 4G could be nice
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