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| 01:44.22 | hyc | Entropy512: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12403862#post12403862 |
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| 14:20.22 | gauner1986 | nice |
| 14:20.28 | gauner1986 | htc pyramid finally announced |
| 14:20.47 | gauner1986 | my next phone <3 |
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| 14:32.12 | jonpry | too bad its native android |
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| 14:33.00 | mdj | my too |
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| 14:33.08 | mdj | hi gauner1986 :D |
| 14:33.16 | gauner1986 | hi mdj |
| 14:33.19 | gauner1986 | you're back? :P |
| 14:33.32 | mdj | back to dhd section |
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| 15:11.48 | gauner1986 | mdj: ah you switched to dhd? :) |
| 15:13.03 | mdj | yes :) |
| 15:13.10 | gauner1986 | dhd wasn't worth upgrading in my opinion |
| 15:13.23 | gauner1986 | too small upgrade |
| 15:13.38 | mdj | i want sensation |
| 15:13.41 | mdj | :D |
| 15:13.51 | gauner1986 | yeah.. maybe also my next phone |
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| 15:14.13 | gauner1986 | hey Markinus |
| 15:14.16 | Markinus | hi! |
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| 15:14.43 | AstainHellbring | get sensation instead of dhd |
| 15:14.48 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 15:14.50 | gauner1986 | sensation |
| 15:14.52 | gauner1986 | <3 |
| 15:14.56 | mdj | :) |
| 15:15.12 | Cotulla | it sucks... it have only 768 ram... small. |
| 15:15.13 | gauner1986 | dunno why they put only 768mb instead of 1gb ram |
| 15:15.15 | gauner1986 | but okay |
| 15:15.30 | gauner1986 | cotulla wants to have the bigger * :P |
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| 15:20.10 | fakker | maybe you will find the extra space like before gogogogo |
| 15:20.18 | fakker | i have no idea what the hell you are talking about either |
| 15:20.51 | gauner1986 | gimme some wild guesses |
| 15:22.07 | fakker | you getting new phone? |
| 15:22.22 | jonpry | probably 512mb ram/nand mcm with 256mb smi |
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| 15:25.50 | gauner1986 | apt google "htc sensation" |
| 15:25.56 | gauner1986 | damn |
| 15:25.57 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 15:26.43 | gauner1986 | but it's coming to some shitty provider first |
| 15:26.51 | Cotulla | wtf jonpry |
| 15:26.52 | gauner1986 | and will be available in june then.. |
| 15:26.55 | Cotulla | there no smi at all |
| 15:26.56 | Cotulla | :P |
| 15:27.20 | Cotulla | as well 7630 doesn't have smi |
| 15:27.39 | Cass | you know too much :P |
| 15:27.54 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 15:27.59 | Cotulla | but maybe I lie |
| 15:28.01 | Cotulla | who knows |
| 15:28.01 | Cotulla | :D |
| 15:28.06 | Cass | heh |
| 15:28.30 | gauner1986 | cass: you'll also buy it? :P |
| 15:28.39 | Cotulla | I am lie in 50% cases to prevent u to detect that I know :D |
| 15:28.51 | Cotulla | *ROFL* |
| 15:28.52 | Cass | im meh .. waiting on some one to rspl my hd7 ;P |
| 15:29.30 | Cotulla | it's bad to stole pictures. definitely. :P |
| 15:29.37 | Cass | gauner1986, looks nice enough, but its too much like all the others released over the past year |
| 15:29.51 | Cass | :) |
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| 15:30.52 | Cotulla | but I wanna 1024 |
| 15:30.53 | Cotulla | ram |
| 15:30.54 | Cotulla | :P |
| 15:31.08 | Cass | why stop at that ..2048 much nicer |
| 15:31.45 | jonpry | its just that i have never heard of a 6gbit sdram. so it must be two chips |
| 15:31.59 | Cotulla | maybe three |
| 15:32.02 | Cotulla | who knwos |
| 15:32.06 | jonpry | or that |
| 15:32.10 | Cotulla | or maybe there 1024 but locked |
| 15:32.11 | Cotulla | 256 |
| 15:32.13 | Cotulla | :) |
| 15:32.24 | fakker | Cass, my brother said the same thing - they all look the same now |
| 15:32.29 | fakker | :D |
| 15:32.44 | jonpry | don't they over report |
| 15:32.59 | Cass | fakker yeah they do ... im kinda bored looking at the new ones |
| 15:33.03 | Cotulla | anyway there 11 cores I like all them |
| 15:33.18 | jonpry | like 768 + 256 locked, plus 128kb cache, = 1024.25MB |
| 15:33.50 | Cotulla | cache? |
| 15:33.59 | jonpry | processor cache |
| 15:34.09 | jonpry | then they add in memory from i2c registers |
| 15:34.18 | Cotulla | we talking about ram |
| 15:34.18 | jonpry | and panel. thats like 4MB |
| 15:34.20 | Cotulla | not caches |
| 15:34.42 | Cotulla | there also L2... dunno about size |
| 15:34.44 | Cotulla | maybe 256k |
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| 15:35.27 | jonpry | i once designed a contraption that used the cache as storage for the boot loader. like on reset all cache lines were reported as filled and reset to containing bootloader |
| 15:35.43 | Cotulla | heh and it worked |
| 15:35.48 | jonpry | yeah |
| 15:35.53 | Cotulla | but hey |
| 15:36.00 | Cotulla | caches are disabled after reset |
| 15:36.13 | Cotulla | as well mmu off |
| 15:36.56 | jonpry | hence the over in over reporting |
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| 16:39.05 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yo |
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| 16:41.39 | jonpry | hi arrrghhh |
| 16:41.49 | jonpry | do you know if fishingmedic is running scbs? |
| 16:42.44 | arrrghhh | i'm... not sure to be honest. why? |
| 16:43.39 | jonpry | just wondering if anyone else is using it. fishingmedic mentioned something in the xda thread but i couldn't really tell |
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| 16:58.46 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh sorry phone again. never fails, get online and then im needed elsewhere |
| 16:58.57 | arrrghhh | hahaha, you're an important man. |
| 16:59.09 | WisTilt2 | thats what they keep telling me:) |
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| 17:16.02 | emwe | jonpry: regarding the pm patch... i'd rather move the pm_saved_acpu_clk_rate in the "exit routine" and not comment the whole enter if() |
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| 17:18.37 | jonpry | emwe, sounds good to me |
| 17:19.46 | emwe | jonpry: the msm_timer_enter/exit_idle() are not related to any timer.c/rtc-msm7x01A.c for scbs, yap? |
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| 17:21.20 | jonpry | no relation |
| 17:21.41 | emwe | jonpry: i'd also ommit the scbs_do() yet, as it's not present on .27 |
| 17:22.23 | jonpry | it won't break anything because CONFIG_SUPERQUICK is not set |
| 17:22.51 | emwe | but there is no scbs_do() symbol yet |
| 17:23.35 | jonpry | true, but the code is #ifdef'd out |
| 17:24.03 | emwe | not in the latest pm.c patch. |
| 17:24.17 | emwe | anyway. time for all the scbs stuff to go in. |
| 17:24.19 | emwe | ;) |
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| 17:24.36 | emwe | getting in the way to keep the working tree clean. |
| 17:24.39 | arrrghhh | w00t |
| 17:24.44 | jonpry | i think so. i want to rewrite scbs.c to use pdata though |
| 17:25.06 | jonpry | tis the only way to have scbs on some devices and not others |
| 17:25.29 | emwe | jonpry: btw, that bit shifting by 16 bits in scbs.c is that required also for u32 smem fields? if not, that should happen in htc_battery_smem.c in case scbs is active, no? |
| 17:26.05 | jonpry | its required for all size smem. its because of a 16.16 fixed point transfer to userland |
| 17:26.39 | jonpry | i decided that float in kernel is evil |
| 17:27.11 | emwe | k |
| 17:27.19 | jonpry | nothing is dumber than a NaN kernel panic |
| 17:27.28 | emwe | ;) |
| 17:27.46 | arrrghhh | lol yea i remember someone mentioned we had one of those in the battery code. WisTilt2 i think said it. |
| 17:27.51 | arrrghhh | wasn't me, that's for damned sure :P |
| 17:28.40 | jonpry | existing htc_battery_smem uses float all over. and periodically dumps the core |
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| 17:33.58 | hyc | I thought our ARMs didn't even have floating point |
| 17:34.18 | jonpry | yeah its emulated |
| 17:34.42 | jonpry | c supports float |
| 17:36.07 | emwe | we are missing the F in JF-S |
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| 17:36.23 | jonpry | even VFP is software assist. there is some theory that you can add a couple of features to the VFP driver and our chip will be able to run VFP compiled code |
| 17:37.04 | jonpry | mostly its an issue of not having any registers. but since we don't use FIQ, some could be scavenged |
| 17:37.53 | phh | oO |
| 17:38.00 | phh | we have VFP but no VFP registers ? Oo |
| 17:38.53 | jonpry | no, its just that the VFP driver is more less a software float dealy |
| 17:39.21 | jonpry | like VFP can't actually for example multiply any 2 doubles |
| 17:39.35 | jonpry | so it throws exception when it can't hack it, and the driver multiplies them in software |
| 17:40.38 | jonpry | but this would all be cool because we could run webkit8 binaries |
| 17:42.42 | hyc | slowly :P |
| 17:43.19 | hyc | trap-based software emulated floating point ... just like my old Atari ST days |
| 17:43.21 | jonpry | yeah but there is some gapps we just can't run at any speed atm |
| 17:44.05 | hyc | I see. |
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| 17:44.42 | jonpry | my first soft float was 386sx |
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| 17:48.16 | emwe | jonpry: regarding the rhod bt lpm.. it doesn't just help disabling that defconfig option? |
| 17:48.30 | jonpry | won't build |
| 17:48.54 | emwe | hmpfs, then disabling all msm_hs and bt_lpm stuff |
| 17:49.09 | phh | no more bluetooth at all |
| 17:49.11 | phh | even better :p |
| 17:49.27 | emwe | somebody needs to test this out later on. |
| 17:49.42 | emwe | seems the rhod400 is either still shipping or gone lost. |
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| 17:52.58 | jonpry | emwe, disabling it all works, but it kills it for all devices |
| 17:53.45 | emwe | i mean that CONFIG_SERIAL_BCM_BT_LPM |
| 17:53.45 | emwe | and that should be rhod only |
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| 17:54.14 | emwe | anyway, just wen't the pragmatic way. pushed. |
| 17:54.55 | emwe | there's still that acpuclock msleep/mdelay fix to be cleared with bzo? |
| 18:01.36 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: 7ma per hr in sleep overnight, my kernel with your previous scbs code. haven't tried the newer scbs yet but shouldn't matter. |
| 18:04.15 | jonpry | WisTilt2, thats impressive |
| 18:04.19 | jonpry | how'd you do that? |
| 18:04.37 | arrrghhh | pulled the battery out of the device |
| 18:05.03 | WisTilt2 | numerous additions to pm that were missing. we compared what we're doing with our device. |
| 18:05.28 | arrrghhh | nice |
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| 18:06.44 | WisTilt2 | once the current git tree is cleaned up i will clone it fresh and add these changes. i have this all in my current pm, which looks like isnt going to be pushed so ill change the existing pm after the tree is clean. |
| 18:08.02 | jonpry | emwe, that change was bzo's idea |
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| 18:09.19 | emwe | WisTilt2: no offense from my side. but i don't like the code to be butchered. that makes it mroe difficult to port the code again to another "api" so to say. |
| 18:09.48 | emwe | WisTilt2: btw, tried to csr_base + 0x500. dunno if it was related, but i am at least down to 5%/hour |
| 18:09.51 | emwe | lol |
| 18:10.27 | WisTilt2 | emwe: yeah there are many others like that missing that gain a lot more savings. |
| 18:10.55 | emwe | anyway, my drain on .35 topa is sick. |
| 18:11.13 | emwe | but i don't have the time to test on .27. i don't think it was much better |
| 18:11.24 | emwe | so perhaps some topa related issue on all kernels. |
| 18:11.42 | WisTilt2 | any idea when the git tree will be current with all the other outstanding commits? i need to clone a clean one and make these changes one by one, getting too deep in multiple changes here:) |
| 18:12.11 | emwe | WisTilt2: which ones? the pm from you with the standby_ctl and so on? anything else? |
| 18:12.27 | jonpry | WisTilt2, imho now we are like 10 times closer to running your pm than we were yesterday :p |
| 18:12.55 | emwe | i can just say your stuff works for me on .35. |
| 18:13.16 | jonpry | at least one of your painstakingly found changes is applied |
| 18:14.03 | emwe | jonpry: yeah, applied blindly. just tested for compilation and the knowledge it works on .35. |
| 18:15.28 | emwe | ah the fb stuff. |
| 18:15.40 | emwe | ok, that one can really be taken care of by someone else. |
| 18:15.44 | WisTilt2 | emwe: you can scratch my pm commit and ill just add back this other missing code. the standby_ctl really needs to be in there though i believe but we can hash that out later with comparison tests. |
| 18:16.40 | emwe | the only effective change there is the STANDY_CTL bits, right? |
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| 18:17.14 | emwe | i think it didn't matter much for me "subjectively" if it's with or without the backbias bit set |
| 18:17.29 | emwe | might be though that the csr_base + 0x500 did something. |
| 18:18.09 | WisTilt2 | phone again sorry, back in a bit |
| 18:18.19 | emwe | supper. laters :) |
| 18:18.57 | emwe | WisTilt2: if you have some stuff to test for me, no holding back so i can give your pm stuff a test drive on topa. |
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| 18:30.00 | jonpry | emwe, did you ever figure out the disable charging stuff? |
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| 18:32.55 | WisTilt2 | emwe: im going to be awhile... main thing with back bias is my change writel(0x08, A11S_STANDBY_CTL) enables hardware back bias, the method you're talking about is really for testing only. mine also changes the number of clock waits to immediate rather than 7 so quicker waking arm11. the FB change i will redo to only apply the quicker wake part of the patch. |
| 18:33.54 | jonpry | WisTilt2, quicker waking arm11? that sounds like gold to me |
| 18:33.59 | WisTilt2 | emwe: the 0x500 will be in the larger patch for pm later |
| 18:34.42 | WisTilt2 | yeah, no clocks as opposed to 7 clocks. any time saved is worth it |
| 18:35.34 | jonpry | isn't that like nanoseconds? |
| 18:38.02 | WisTilt2 | yes but just that one change is noticeable for whatever reason. i think there's more happening elsewhere that is somehow related to this. |
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| 20:02.37 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: is scbs in all this stuff that got pushed to git today? |
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| 20:03.36 | jonpry | no |
| 20:04.47 | WisTilt2 | the last files you sent me are current then? i want to build with the new scbs and see how it gets along |
| 20:05.21 | WisTilt2 | last i have from you is apr 8th |
| 20:06.38 | emwe | i whonder is scbs just shouldn't be pushed with all stuff required and only those with the modded rootfs will use it anyway |
| 20:06.59 | jonpry | why not? |
| 20:07.07 | jonpry | WisTilt2, that is the latest |
| 20:07.12 | emwe | that was rather meant rhetoric ;) |
| 20:07.44 | emwe | jonpry: could it be possible to adjust polling interval via BABS and perhaps disable/enable scbs? |
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| 20:07.59 | jonpry | it doesn't poll without the modded rootfs |
| 20:08.48 | jonpry | there is some stuff to adjust the polling interval from userland just imho better to have it on/off |
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| 20:09.19 | emwe | k |
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| 20:21.52 | hyc | is anyone working on audio routing issues? like e.g. why the external speaker comes on spontaneously in calls? |
| 20:22.07 | hyc | any idea if that's userland or kernel... |
| 20:22.32 | arrrghhh | jb is AFAIK |
| 20:22.58 | hyc | ok |
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| 20:31.29 | WisTilt2 | audio comes out of speaker in calls? is this after using speakerphone or how? only thing i've seen, and haven't tried to fix yet is if you hit anything on keypad in a call the dtmf changes routing logic and sometimes will either kill audio totally or send to device 1, speaker |
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| 20:40.30 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: is the pm.c you sent me the identical one to what is now on git? |
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| 20:41.16 | WisTilt2 | and do i still need your batt patch for those changes to battery smem? |
| 20:41.51 | jonpry | git pm.c doesn't have superquick |
| 20:41.55 | jonpry | and you need smem |
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| 20:42.52 | WisTilt2 | ok i can make that work... im going to run half our phones here on your new scbs and the other half on the original just for comparison what you think? |
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| 22:05.44 | phh | gloire à xenu |
| 22:05.47 | phh | oops |
| 22:06.03 | phh | bad cha |
| 22:06.03 | phh | n |
| 22:06.16 | GNUtoo|bug20 | you speak french? |
| 22:07.13 | phh | i'm french. |
| 22:07.27 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ok, me too |
| 22:07.48 | phh | (and just in case, that sentence is a private joke) |
| 22:08.02 | phh | (my touchpad just clicked here.) |
| 22:08.09 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ok |
| 22:08.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | and your keyboard just typed it |
| 22:08.28 | GNUtoo|bug20 | I tought xenu did something great like solving some problem or added some support for something |
| 22:08.29 | phh | yeah well the sentence was intented, just not here :p |
| 22:08.39 | GNUtoo|bug20 | Alex[sp3dev], hi |
| 22:08.42 | phh | GNUtoo|bug20: na sorry :p |
| 22:08.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|bug20: oops, you noticed me |
| 22:09.10 | GNUtoo|bug20 | lol |
| 22:09.41 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: complicated to be hidden. |
| 22:10.17 | GNUtoo|bug20 | indeed |
| 22:10.36 | arrrghhh | lord xenu? |
| 22:10.51 | GNUtoo|bug20 | if you want go hide again, I won't bother you today then |
| 22:11.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|bug20: i'm just busy doing stupid html parsing for school |
| 22:11.32 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ok |
| 22:11.37 | GNUtoo|bug20 | beatifullsoup? |
| 22:12.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, converted it to xhtml and then python's miniDOM |
| 22:12.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'd rather kill the moron that wrote that html |
| 22:13.42 | GNUtoo|bug20 | lol |
| 22:15.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | seriously. the prof gave us some html he got from a government site. some kind of financial report. now you have to be a moron to make reports in html instead of a formatted xml. just imagine, instead of integrating electronic document exchange, our government does its best to keep up bureaucracy. that's called creating working places |
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