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| 00:16.10 | hyc | Oh, duh... the pppd options file specifies "persist" - try to reopen a connection after it is terminated |
| 00:16.39 | hyc | that's likely to cause a problem if the radio has lost its signal |
| 00:18.50 | arrrghhh | did i just see a lightbulb over your head? |
| 00:19.19 | hyc | ;) |
| 00:19.45 | hyc | gives me something to think about anyway |
| 00:20.01 | hyc | ok, looking in the pppd source, it seems the android one is patched to not read any options from files |
| 00:20.07 | hyc | rather bogus |
| 00:20.21 | hyc | you have to set all options on the command line, or in an env var |
| 00:20.42 | hyc | and the env var is hex-encoded using characters A-P (not 0-9A-F) |
| 00:21.11 | hyc | so that explains a bit of why it's more difficult to use |
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| 00:21.39 | hyc | but at the same time, this should make it easier to use with NAND |
| 00:21.49 | hyc | don't write to files at all, just set env var |
| 00:22.01 | jonpry | omg patches |
| 00:22.11 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 00:22.56 | jonpry | does this failed wake this work? |
| 00:23.45 | arrrghhh | i haven't had a failed wake |
| 00:23.49 | arrrghhh | but it's still 'slow' to wake |
| 00:23.50 | arrrghhh | 1-2s |
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| 00:26.17 | arrrghhh | i guess not every wake is slow |
| 00:26.51 | jonpry | er thing |
| 00:34.57 | jonpry | ouch that patch stings a bit |
| 00:38.14 | arrrghhh | the FB patch? |
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| 00:39.39 | Curious_ | where is cocktulla |
| 00:39.40 | jonpry | how do you interpret these lights? |
| 00:40.35 | jonpry | solid grreen == sleep? |
| 00:42.56 | phh | yes |
| 00:43.32 | phh | jonpry: you got wistilt's patches ? |
| 00:43.51 | arrrghhh | jonpry, blinking green is attempting to sleep |
| 00:43.57 | arrrghhh | solid green is full sleep |
| 00:44.00 | phh | arrrghhh: no |
| 00:44.02 | arrrghhh | orange is full wake |
| 00:44.04 | arrrghhh | what? |
| 00:44.07 | phh | it's sleep with wakelock |
| 00:44.15 | arrrghhh | well |
| 00:44.18 | phh | doesn't necessarly mean "attempting" to sleep |
| 00:44.21 | arrrghhh | yes... sorry for my poor explanation. |
| 00:44.25 | phh | you'll have this state while playing music |
| 00:44.29 | arrrghhh | i would say it is. |
| 00:44.31 | arrrghhh | or plugged into usb |
| 00:44.59 | arrrghhh | Oo failed wake |
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| 00:46.19 | jonpry | phh, yeah i applied the whole deal |
| 00:46.20 | jonpry | i did get a bad wake though |
| 00:46.23 | jonpry | fiddling with a bad usb cable |
| 00:46.25 | jonpry | and pressing power button bunch of times, lol |
| 00:47.58 | jonpry | mainly i think the evdev patch is weird, and don't understand the pm.c one. its almost like he just removed the other sleep modes and changed a constant. but i did not look at it very carefully. |
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| 01:34.53 | mizofizo | hyc still around? |
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| 01:35.18 | hyc | hey |
| 01:35.37 | hyc | mizofizo: everything ok? |
| 01:35.38 | mizofizo | making some logs as I type |
| 01:35.41 | hyc | nice... |
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| 01:36.27 | mizofizo | it took a long time to get the damn thing setup but now it all seems to be going well |
| 01:36.54 | hyc | yeah? any gotchas I should add to the readme? |
| 01:37.11 | hyc | not like rilspy will have much reason to exist, long-term... |
| 01:37.20 | mizofizo | the chmod to modify the file permissions.. |
| 01:37.25 | mizofizo | it's been a while...heh |
| 01:37.33 | hyc | ah. chmod 4750 :P |
| 01:38.30 | mizofizo | just realized this phone is setup for GV so it won't get a regular VM notification |
| 01:39.14 | hyc | that's probably not a problem |
| 01:39.41 | hyc | if the notification comes as an SMS, I think we just pass it on up to android without tweaking it |
| 01:40.29 | mizofizo | that makes sense |
| 01:42.33 | mizofizo | ok, got call in/out...sms in/out...mms in/out and netloc |
| 01:42.35 | mizofizo | anything else? |
| 01:43.09 | hyc | screen off and on? |
| 01:43.25 | mizofizo | oh yea |
| 01:43.30 | hyc | data off and on |
| 01:43.36 | hyc | I think that covers it |
| 01:43.50 | mizofizo | any duration for screen and radio? |
| 01:44.05 | hyc | 30 seconds ought to be plenty |
| 01:45.21 | mizofizo | just data, right? not radio off? |
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| 01:45.39 | hyc | oh |
| 01:45.44 | hyc | sure, let's see radio off too |
| 01:45.52 | hyc | that phone is CDMA-only right, no GSM? |
| 01:45.57 | mizofizo | I can change roaming modes too if you'd like |
| 01:46.00 | mizofizo | yea, it's cdma only |
| 01:46.10 | hyc | cool, yeah, run all the menu options |
| 01:47.53 | hyc | do you get netloc pretty quickly? or does it take a while? |
| 01:48.02 | mizofizo | came right up when I tried it |
| 01:48.09 | hyc | cool |
| 01:48.28 | mizofizo | didn't realize it had gps on so it switched over after about 15 seconds |
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| 01:54.33 | mizofizo | crap...log stopped. I think I know where though. I'll start another one and send both. Hopefully you can tell if anything is missing |
| 01:57.25 | hyc | ok cool |
| 01:57.44 | hyc | log stopped? something died? |
| 01:59.21 | mizofizo | not sure...I just looked at adb and it was back at the prompt |
| 01:59.31 | mizofizo | log doesn't indicate anything weird |
| 01:59.40 | mizofizo | oh...maybe... |
| 01:59.46 | hyc | weird, usually that means the phone timed out/died |
| 02:00.29 | hyc | well email / pm me whatever ya got |
| 02:00.53 | mizofizo | yea...something isn't right...new log isn't logging |
| 02:01.11 | mizofizo | I'll pm you |
| 02:01.15 | mizofizo | with the order |
| 02:01.16 | hyc | cool |
| 02:01.23 | mizofizo | you can tell me what it did last |
| 02:03.41 | mizofizo | PMed |
| 02:04.18 | hyc | got it |
| 02:04.23 | hyc | thx, unpacking... |
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| 02:06.27 | hyc | wow, you get much more extensive signal strength messages from that modem |
| 02:06.58 | mizofizo | htc did something right? |
| 02:07.04 | hyc | ;) |
| 02:07.13 | hyc | but the rhodium is much less informative |
| 02:07.18 | hyc | bummer for me |
| 02:07.33 | mizofizo | and me....that's what my phone is |
| 02:07.36 | arrrghhh | bummer indeed |
| 02:07.45 | hyc | rild crashed and restarted |
| 02:07.49 | hyc | hahahaha |
| 02:08.01 | hyc | even the genuine HTC code crashes :P |
| 02:08.06 | mizofizo | duh of course |
| 02:08.22 | mizofizo | did anything I do get logged? |
| 02:08.43 | hyc | yeah, I'm backtracking thru the file to see what was the last |
| 02:09.16 | hyc | new SMS received |
| 02:09.21 | hyc | that appears to be the end |
| 02:09.29 | hyc | but I can't tell if this was the SMS or the MMS yet |
| 02:09.35 | hyc | have to scroll back further |
| 02:10.10 | hyc | nope, that was it. new SMS received |
| 02:10.32 | mizofizo | ok then...reboot and try again...I'll keep adb on top this time |
| 02:10.41 | hyc | heh ok |
| 02:11.59 | mizofizo | it'll be a full log again |
| 02:12.07 | hyc | cool |
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| 02:14.35 | mizofizo | by full log I mean starting at mms |
| 02:14.38 | mizofizo | heh |
| 02:14.51 | hyc | oh, start at sending txt |
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| 02:16.33 | hyc | yay. your log shows the command to retrieve the Home SID from the phone |
| 02:16.39 | hyc | no more -h option needed... |
| 02:16.40 | rpierce99 | :) |
| 02:16.51 | odz | AWESOME |
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| 02:16.56 | mizofizo | w00t! |
| 02:18.55 | odz | :DDD |
| 02:18.59 | odz | excited |
| 02:20.08 | hyc | I hope it's not device-specific, it's a bunch of codes in hex :P |
| 02:20.27 | odz | =x |
| 02:20.32 | mizofizo | ha...it probably is. we'll find out soon |
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| 02:28.03 | mizofizo | hopefully you'll get the codes you need for Verizon since I can force roaming on this thing |
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| 02:31.42 | mizofizo | PMed with the new log |
| 02:32.57 | hyc | ok, well I just compiled this home sid change |
| 02:33.42 | mizofizo | excellent...hope it works out. |
| 02:33.49 | arrrghhh | +1 |
| 02:33.53 | hyc | http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril-f2e85ae.zip |
| 02:33.57 | mizofizo | is sms working on this ril? |
| 02:34.04 | mizofizo | I'm not running it on my rhod |
| 02:34.05 | hyc | not for CDMA mode |
| 02:34.16 | mizofizo | ok...I'll be waiting a bit then |
| 02:34.26 | hyc | I think GSM is pretty much 100% |
| 02:34.35 | hyc | hm, the unlock code stuff isn't all there |
| 02:35.30 | mizofizo | anything you need me to try? |
| 02:35.41 | hyc | not at the moment |
| 02:35.41 | arrrghhh | unlock code? |
| 02:35.49 | hyc | SIM unlock, pin stuff |
| 02:35.58 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 02:36.36 | mizofizo | does that still apply to cdma since there's no sim? |
| 02:36.43 | hyc | probably not ;) |
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| 02:41.06 | hyc | yeah, some roaming logs would be interesting |
| 02:41.15 | hyc | I still don't see what controls a couple of these roaming flags |
| 02:41.42 | hyc | you're definitely not roaming for these tho right? |
| 02:41.55 | rpierce99 | no guarantees that forced roam looks the same in the logs as real roam though |
| 02:41.56 | mizofizo | only when I switch the roaming mode |
| 02:42.05 | hyc | ok |
| 02:42.21 | mizofizo | I don't really have a way to log and test a real roam |
| 02:42.31 | hyc | what are your roaming options that you switched? |
| 02:42.37 | mizofizo | it's hard to close the microwave door with a usb cable sticking out |
| 02:42.46 | mizofizo | the default mode is Automatic |
| 02:42.51 | hyc | ok |
| 02:42.53 | mizofizo | then I switched it to Home Only |
| 02:43.03 | mizofizo | then Affiliate Networks |
| 02:43.07 | mizofizo | then back to Automatic |
| 02:43.19 | hyc | ok |
| 02:43.28 | hyc | you never got a roaming indicator on your screen did you? |
| 02:43.50 | mizofizo | on the lock screen? I didn't check |
| 02:43.55 | hyc | ok |
| 02:44.01 | mizofizo | it did lock to 1x which is what happens when it's roaming to Vz |
| 02:44.14 | hyc | hmmm. I forgot, they don't use ppp for data. |
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| 02:44.24 | hyc | All of their data is setup thru a different interface |
| 02:44.47 | rpierce99 | hyc i assume this ril will ignore the -h if i don't modify my init? |
| 02:44.54 | hyc | yeah |
| 02:44.59 | hyc | I think so |
| 02:45.01 | hyc | hmmm |
| 02:45.43 | hyc | yeah, it will print an error to stderr but keep going |
| 02:45.47 | rpierce99 | k |
| 02:46.06 | hyc | yeah, they're using rmnet for data |
| 02:48.03 | arrrghhh | oy... |
| 02:48.38 | hyc | I forgot about that. but it's no big deal |
| 02:53.53 | rpierce99 | rild crashed |
| 02:54.06 | hyc | got log? |
| 02:56.34 | hyc | ok, looks like MMS is just an SMS |
| 02:56.46 | hyc | so once I get that part going, MMS receive Will Just Work |
| 02:56.57 | mizofizo | really? that simple? |
| 02:57.23 | rpierce99 | that's what it sounded like when i was reading about it, the sms tells android where to find the pic |
| 02:58.12 | hyc | probably |
| 02:58.19 | hyc | sure looks that way |
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| 02:59.58 | odz | i cant wait for sms to get added in :P |
| 03:01.34 | mizofizo | I'm waiting until it gets to the same level as fake gsm. Though if I don't switch the mode, it should work the same way? |
| 03:01.48 | hyc | fake gsm should keep working, yeah |
| 03:02.01 | hyc | I might break it here or there down the road :P |
| 03:03.31 | mizofizo | don't make me go back the the borked ril! |
| 03:06.05 | hyc | heh |
| 03:06.19 | hyc | ok, so for your roaming settings |
| 03:06.34 | hyc | the first thing you changed was from Auto to home only? |
| 03:09.32 | mizofizo | yea |
| 03:09.41 | hyc | and then what next? |
| 03:09.55 | hyc | interesting, the modem doesn't return a network name when roaming |
| 03:10.06 | mizofizo | affiliated networks |
| 03:10.31 | hyc | and then back to auto? |
| 03:10.43 | mizofizo | hmm...that sounds right? I can't recall ever seeing Verizon in WinMo |
| 03:10.46 | mizofizo | yea, back to auto |
| 03:10.53 | hyc | cool |
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| 03:28.28 | hyc | ril-fd39710.zip |
| 03:28.35 | hyc | previous one was parsing wrong |
| 03:36.18 | rpierce99 | brb |
| 03:44.00 | mizofizo | ok...off to bed. hope the logs help get the new ril up and running for all |
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| 03:46.40 | hyc | thanks everyone |
| 03:48.31 | hyc | http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril-92a99ca.zip for anyone left here looking |
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| 04:03.28 | hyc | rpierce99: one mor etry at ril-92a99ca.zip |
| 04:03.33 | hyc | working on signal strength now |
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| 06:22.05 | vimtutor | htc inc? |
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| 15:01.43 | [acl] | phh: y0 |
| 15:02.29 | hyc | 'morning [acl] |
| 15:02.51 | [acl] | hyc: sup dood |
| 15:03.21 | hyc | not much, waiting to hear if my latest CDMA patches actually worked :P |
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| 15:03.59 | hyc | trying to figure out the cdma sms decoder, it's completely uncommented |
| 15:04.00 | [acl] | cool |
| 15:04.23 | [acl] | glad u tackling that.. no idea about the guts of the communication |
| 15:04.25 | SeRVeR01 | u there wanna ask abt stable rom for wildfire nonsense any 1 ^^ ? |
| 15:07.03 | emwe | hyc: had any reports of broken gsm data? |
| 15:07.14 | hyc | emwe: not recently |
| 15:07.25 | hyc | mebbe a few commits back, when I changed the response code handling |
| 15:08.12 | hyc | [acl]: re: pppd startup, heck, just yesterday we had someone in here trying to get username/pw working for CDMA data |
| 15:08.38 | hyc | you don't want to setprop this kind of thing |
| 15:08.41 | [acl] | hyc: who was that savage |
| 15:08.49 | hyc | and you obviously can't hardcode it |
| 15:09.01 | Willd | hyc: Why not setprop it? |
| 15:09.06 | [acl] | i mean is how do you plan to secure it? |
| 15:09.07 | emwe | hyc: hm. need to retest with your up to date one. used to work fine yesterday still |
| 15:09.40 | hyc | [acl]: pass it in environment to child pppd |
| 15:09.55 | hyc | the only way this works is if pppd is a a child of ril |
| 15:10.45 | hyc | and you're talking about APIs that are pretty ridiculously overengineered |
| 15:10.59 | hyc | just freakin' fork/exec. what's bad about that? |
| 15:11.18 | [acl] | its good if we were all linux |
| 15:11.24 | hyc | why do you want to lump all this overhead on top? |
| 15:11.26 | [acl] | but mixing userland with how you wanna do it |
| 15:12.21 | [acl] | hyc: its like this.. if you dont like the way android does it.. then you are going to behing to hate a bunch of thigns android does |
| 15:12.47 | hyc | except that Android *doesn't* handle this. it has rmnet so it doesn't need to. |
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| 15:13.18 | [acl] | hyc: true, but this idea has been around which is why it was talked about in the past. we arent the only ones who have faced this |
| 15:13.29 | hyc | you're tacking a wart onto the side of it. Might as well go with the smallest possible wart. |
| 15:13.39 | [acl] | lol |
| 15:15.06 | [acl] | i still wanna hear what the others say. |
| 15:15.11 | hyc | sure |
| 15:16.05 | hyc | but the precedent has already been set. Android expects pppd to be invoked with envargs set. |
| 15:16.17 | hyc | so really, what I'm proposing *is* doing it the android way. |
| 15:17.08 | [acl] | yeah, but the way you want to start it isnt right. its a daemon, need to treat it as so |
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| 15:17.44 | hyc | it's http://smartphones-htc.com/external/mtpd/ |
| 15:17.45 | [acl] | still.. we already both know how we feel. now im just waiting for others to chime in. no need to repeat ourselves over and over |
| 15:18.00 | hyc | mtpd.c , #ifdef ANDROID_CHANGES |
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| 15:18.43 | [acl] | cool |
| 15:19.11 | hyc | or google "pppd envargs" ... |
| 15:19.27 | [acl] | bro ur beating a dead horse here. i said im going to wait what others think..lol |
| 15:19.34 | hyc | ;) |
| 15:19.44 | [acl] | im at work i cant check anything now anyways |
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| 15:23.49 | hyc | I found a PDF with +HTCerror codes, woohoo |
| 15:24.05 | [acl] | woa now thats a good find |
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| 15:33.49 | [acl] | hyc: i see where the confusion happened.. i never opposed to envargs .. lol.. just the method of starting the service itself. But if you do want to track pids.. your way is really the only way. |
| 15:34.05 | [acl] | sometimes it pays to read the email more than once :-) |
| 15:35.58 | hyc | lol |
| 15:36.17 | [acl] | so yes to envargs |
| 15:36.27 | hyc | I was like "wtf, why are we having this argument?" |
| 15:36.57 | [acl] | hyc: no its that for nand we running the old pppd and pass the basic argumens on cmdline |
| 15:37.07 | [acl] | but not all of em |
| 15:37.42 | hyc | but there's no reason you can't switch to using /system/bin/pppd right? |
| 15:38.03 | hyc | in fact it should work better for you since it doesn't try to write any files |
| 15:38.14 | [acl] | not at all.. thats actually the preffered way.. we ended up copying it but using the android version works too .. just that the scripts dont run that ril needs |
| 15:38.17 | [acl] | so we stoppde there |
| 15:38.40 | [acl] | but yes, the system version will work beter for us |
| 15:38.47 | hyc | I bet you just got tripped up by the linkname behavior change |
| 15:39.07 | hyc | since pppd still does invoke scripts at the same steps as before |
| 15:39.36 | [acl] | bunch of stuff. Ril checks for the files in etc and does not like it when they are in a ro fs. so we had to move them to data |
| 15:39.38 | [acl] | total hack |
| 15:39.56 | hyc | yeah well, ril is not exactly elegant code |
| 15:40.18 | hyc | but it will be better ;) |
| 15:40.27 | [acl] | ok so im on board with envargs.. no doubt. but do you still want to just start it off ril. thats the last thing that troubles me . actually the only thing |
| 15:40.46 | [acl] | i vote service. Corret or not thats my vote :-) |
| 15:41.46 | hyc | :P |
| 15:46.27 | jonpry | go service go |
| 15:46.58 | [acl] | service +1 |
| 15:47.05 | [acl] | need to wait on the rest of the gang |
| 15:47.41 | hyc | eh, still impossible. |
| 15:47.55 | hyc | you can't stuff arbitrary data into init's environment |
| 15:48.00 | hyc | so how are you going to use envargs? |
| 15:48.09 | hyc | you guys really haven't thought it thru |
| 15:49.47 | jonpry | what we need is ril in kernel |
| 15:49.56 | hyc | lol |
| 15:50.09 | hyc | [acl] is saying I'm trying to do things too linux-y |
| 15:50.16 | hyc | and you're going far the other extreme |
| 15:50.27 | jonpry | with new kernel ril / userland ril interface |
| 15:50.40 | [acl] | dang .. jonpry going overboard now |
| 15:50.42 | [acl] | lol |
| 15:50.49 | jonpry | it will save lots of battery |
| 15:51.08 | hyc | not really. most of the ril exists to interface to userland |
| 15:51.21 | hyc | anytime there's a state change you still need to wake up userland |
| 15:51.58 | jonpry | i'm sure some stuff is not that important |
| 15:52.28 | jonpry | like loss of service does not really require notifying userland until the phone would be woken up for some other reason |
| 15:53.00 | Willd | I would sure like to know if I loose service? >_> |
| 15:53.10 | jonpry | so we just need to keep track of service state. then cycle it on userland when the phone wakes up |
| 15:53.58 | jonpry | you want an alarm Willd? |
| 15:54.10 | Willd | jonpry: A notification or something non-intrusive |
| 15:54.27 | Willd | If it is in sleep that is |
| 15:54.48 | jonpry | ok, so kernel ril has option to delay or not delay service state notification |
| 15:55.06 | Willd | Though I am a border case, I travel a lot in the country, where i tend to lose reception for a while. |
| 15:55.23 | jonpry | and you stop your car when you lose service? |
| 15:55.29 | Willd | Na, not really :) |
| 15:55.29 | jonpry | and reverse? |
| 15:56.06 | Willd | It feels natural to know if I lose it, that's all |
| 15:56.44 | Willd | Boils down to the fact that I want to be reachable, always :p |
| 15:59.11 | jonpry | ok well whatever i don't know that service change is actually what is causing the problem. just on come peoples phones, i see the thing awake maybe 10s out of 40 just to deal with RIL |
| 15:59.26 | jonpry | s/come/some/ |
| 16:00.02 | jonpry | and whatever is going on is obviously not important |
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| 16:14.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: ping |
| 16:15.34 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sup dood.. |
| 16:15.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: nothing here.. just hacking on poop loader |
| 16:16.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: and yes. i2c is fixed. i just swapped the i2c/gpio mux when porting linux driver |
| 16:16.40 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: nice nice. it will be nice when i dont have to kexec anymore. |
| 16:17.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: but for now. 1. fb is reversed. for kovs 2. no mmc/vfat support. i think i'll fix in a week and add support for rhod, but my goal for the weekend is to make a release for kovs |
| 16:18.12 | [acl] | well since i just need it to bounce off the boot process. THen fb can be backwards for all i care lol |
| 16:18.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think making proper fb is a couple of lines of code.. but yeah.. need to get that bitch working. still a lot of work |
| 16:19.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i now think i know why we have dma timeouts though |
| 16:20.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: when i boot lk off nand, the fb is ok, but from winmo the picture is trashed. i think we need to force reset ppp blit engine |
| 16:20.22 | [acl] | hm |
| 16:20.37 | [acl] | i havent noticed those in ages. I killed console output so i boot straight to android |
| 16:21.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. first of all, you are a heretic. secondly, sometimes ppp crashes and causes data abort and panic even in android. not good |
| 16:22.07 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: lol.. heretic .. no its just since i kexec the boot time is doubled. So killing the console lets me boot faster |
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| 16:25.37 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: there is nothing more painful than watching the console twice :-p |
| 16:25.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: watching winmo is |
| 16:26.17 | [acl] | true true.. |
| 16:27.01 | hyc | We're turning off a lot of the unsolicited msgs when screen is off |
| 16:27.04 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: im exited bout lk.. finally i can have true kernel updates without new nbh.. a man can only dream of such a thing |
| 16:27.17 | hyc | so the excessive time in RIL should be going away |
| 16:28.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i want to deliver a working solution so i'll spend the weekend working on it.. then i'll git it. i think i'll remove support for qsd and msm7230 boards.. because i needed to refactor a lot. anyway, we need more than android devices, so we'll do it |
| 16:28.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: please upload me a recovery image |
| 16:29.19 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: recovery image ? we cant use images yet so we just tarball them bad boys |
| 16:29.39 | [acl] | my recovery doesnt comply with the bootloader. id rewrite it once lk is done |
| 16:30.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: okay. damn. i think i'll need to add a kernel panic partition and ability to pull dmesg via usb.. i cannot boot 35 from nand... |
| 16:31.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: http://www.calculate-linux.ru/blogs/ru/232/show soviet linux ;) |
| 16:34.13 | [acl] | lol |
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| 18:55.39 | jonpry | hi WisTilt2 |
| 18:56.00 | jonpry | i am setup with your patches |
| 18:56.45 | WisTilt2 | how they working on your 210, any major issues? |
| 18:57.05 | jonpry | seems fine. i still get some failed wakes though |
| 18:57.24 | WisTilt2 | you pull the BT patches or leave them in? |
| 18:57.31 | jonpry | no BT |
| 18:57.41 | jonpry | just disabled msm_hs_serial |
| 18:58.02 | WisTilt2 | failed wakes as in panel comes on but no display or just totally staying off? |
| 18:58.50 | jonpry | sometimes its like nothing is happening. light goes orange. then a minute later or so, light turns green again |
| 18:59.06 | jonpry | other times the panel will eventually come on |
| 19:00.14 | WisTilt2 | you running the test kernel or did you build your own with my patches? |
| 19:00.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: what's the offset for battery smem? could you quickly point me to the code to read batt? |
| 19:00.47 | jonpry | fc104 |
| 19:01.07 | jonpry | i guess that is on rhod |
| 19:01.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | really? |
| 19:01.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | isn't that dex? |
| 19:01.47 | jonpry | code is in htc_battery_smem.c |
| 19:02.09 | emwe | 0xfc110 for rhod and topa |
| 19:02.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok |
| 19:02.33 | emwe | that's in the board pdata |
| 19:03.03 | bzo | alex is right in that you have to issue a dex call for that battery register to get updated |
| 19:03.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | bzo: i meant, jonpry gave the address of dex counter |
| 19:03.38 | jonpry | yeah, got confused. meant fc140 |
| 19:03.40 | bzo | ok |
| 19:03.56 | emwe | bzo: PCOM_GET_BATTERY_DATA? |
| 19:04.04 | bzo | sounds like it |
| 19:04.51 | emwe | current battery_smem algo is funny. battery drains like hell and then goes up on sleep |
| 19:05.08 | jonpry | you could always try scbs |
| 19:05.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | i wonder. 27 dies with data abort (ok, an rpc call at clock init is a bad idea) and 35 doesn't boot from nand at all. maybe need to wait more for radio init |
| 19:05.20 | jonpry | fixes that particular problem:p |
| 19:06.34 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev], acl had various problems getting nand boot. i think he disabled almost all drivers first. i remember rpc and usb causing troubles |
| 19:08.23 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: there's that arm9 ready stuff which is in the voque kernel and [acl] took it partially over in one of his latest commits. perhaps that helps. (instead of the previous sleep for some seconds) |
| 19:11.07 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: is_a9_ready() https://gitorious.org/~acl/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-rhod-nand/commit/c67c9f04b750679834d783c9d28fc14fd676ca74 |
| 19:11.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | i've made a crazy poop.. to dump ramconsole from LK.. gotta rewrite framebuffer, though. when it reaches end of page, it starts moving fb by one line up which is incredibly slow |
| 19:12.02 | hyc | gawd, how sad |
| 19:12.27 | hyc | I wrote an optimized 16 row-at-a-time scroller for Atari ST back in 1985 |
| 19:12.47 | hyc | we still haven't come very far huh |
| 19:13.38 | emwe | in 1985 i've been playing with 5 year old's toys. |
| 19:13.41 | emwe | ;) |
| 19:14.03 | hyc | now I'm even more sad :P |
| 19:14.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | in 1985 i would be playing with -7 year old's toys |
| 19:14.23 | jonpry | ouch |
| 19:14.57 | jonpry | anyone ready to jump on scbs bandwagon |
| 19:15.02 | hyc | I guess the world reinvents the wheel every 20-some years or so |
| 19:15.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | no way |
| 19:15.02 | jonpry | you know you want it |
| 19:15.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | me? |
| 19:15.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | i want to pwn the nand |
| 19:15.21 | jonpry | i think its better than ds2xxx |
| 19:15.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | fo sho |
| 19:15.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | but writing a bootloader is so addictive |
| 19:15.44 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: How can it be? :E |
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| 19:16.01 | emwe | jonpry: would like to for having better measurements, but i am not convinved with my battery drain and pm yet. |
| 19:16.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | stupid msm |
| 19:16.28 | jonpry | emwe, you getting 7% like me? |
| 19:16.41 | emwe | jonpry: yap. 1100mAh topa, though. |
| 19:17.01 | WisTilt2 | emwe: what panel type is that topa? |
| 19:17.09 | emwe | WisTilt2: if i knew. ;) |
| 19:17.35 | jonpry | same as rhod no? |
| 19:17.36 | emwe | WisTilt2: jonpry: according to gb-battery and wake stats my device is wake for like nearly half the night. but i don't trust that one. |
| 19:17.36 | WisTilt2 | so its not eid or auo like the rhods i take it? |
| 19:17.53 | emwe | i think i read/heard auo |
| 19:17.55 | jonpry | uses same novatech chip anyways |
| 19:17.59 | emwe | yap |
| 19:18.19 | emwe | WisTilt2: you tweaked some register vals for panel power savings? |
| 19:18.23 | WisTilt2 | you running the panel collapse code and you're still getting bad battery life? |
| 19:18.36 | jonpry | so am i |
| 19:18.51 | emwe | well, i am running whatever topa has since ages. |
| 19:19.13 | WisTilt2 | so something else is waking often if panel is really powered off. |
| 19:19.14 | emwe | WisTilt2: anything special on .27 rhod panel i should look for? haven't been looking closely to .27 for a whie. |
| 19:19.42 | emwe | i am yet not sure my power collapse durations are that long. |
| 19:19.58 | emwe | device stays suspended, but it's waking like every 5 mins |
| 19:20.18 | emwe | i will try over this night with pm.sleep_mode=0 |
| 19:20.30 | emwe | had it to =1 for all the recent weeks/days |
| 19:20.36 | WisTilt2 | REgister 1000 in panel puts it down and you should have both vgregs shut down also |
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| 19:21.11 | emwe | WisTilt2: vregs are still a strange thing. the code disables 1 and enables 2 and on power-on it's diable the 2 and enable 1... |
| 19:21.17 | WisTilt2 | mode 0 is suspend, 1 is actual collapse so 1 should gain you much better battery |
| 19:21.39 | emwe | WisTilt2: but why is every htc kernel tree setting =0 for sleep and =1 for idle sleep then? |
| 19:21.46 | WisTilt2 | gp2 and gp4 same on topa? |
| 19:22.10 | emwe | WisTilt2: ah screwed that. i mixed-up gpio and vreg. one sec.... |
| 19:23.07 | emwe | WisTilt2: https://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.35/arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htctopaz-panel.c#line259 |
| 19:23.51 | emwe | WisTilt2: perhaps i should compare to rhod .27 one day. the gpio look strange on power on-off, but they correspond to haret tracing. dunno what the two-isch pair is for, though :/ |
| 19:24.47 | jonpry | maybe topaz is a 210 :p |
| 19:25.07 | WisTilt2 | we're not even using the gpio for panel anymore since the sleep mode for panel powers it off anyway. |
| 19:25.18 | WisTilt2 | topa might need it though dont know |
| 19:26.55 | emwe | question is though, why jonpry is getting ~ 7%/hour as well |
| 19:27.12 | emwe | you really think our panel's are not really down? |
| 19:27.49 | jonpry | maybe i have AUO, i don't really know |
| 19:27.51 | WisTilt2 | a couple testers using my kernel get .5% with rhod210's so its not the device. |
| 19:27.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | fuck suspend. what drain are you getting in other modes? i get one percent in 4 minutes on average |
| 19:28.00 | WisTilt2 | jonpry what panel type does it report? |
| 19:28.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, when using the pda |
| 19:28.07 | jonpry | how do i tell |
| 19:28.23 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev], your screwed |
| 19:28.24 | WisTilt2 | dmesg at boot you'll see Panel Type:0x14 or similar |
| 19:28.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: what should i do? kill myself? |
| 19:28.46 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: 7%/hour when suspended with radio+data+sync and =1/=1 (testing =0/=1 this night) |
| 19:29.13 | jonpry | WisTilt2, 14 |
| 19:29.28 | WisTilt2 | thats eid |
| 19:29.44 | WisTilt2 | same as 400 and 500 have |
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| 19:30.17 | WisTilt2 | jonpry try the file i just emailed you. i assume you're building the kernel with all the patches |
| 19:30.35 | jonpry | WisTilt2, i got a bad one |
| 19:30.57 | WisTilt2 | bad what? |
| 19:31.15 | jonpry | wake |
| 19:31.24 | WisTilt2 | with the new file? |
| 19:31.28 | jonpry | yep |
| 19:31.33 | jonpry | but i was doing something weird |
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| 19:31.47 | jonpry | like i opened up the clamshell. which didn't wake it. only closing it seems to wake it |
| 19:31.54 | jonpry | and then i hit a keyboard button |
| 19:32.01 | WisTilt2 | panel powering on but nothing displayed or just not coming on at all? |
| 19:32.24 | jonpry | umm, not sure. i didn't see the backlight |
| 19:32.45 | jonpry | and then it just went back to sleep eventually |
| 19:33.04 | WisTilt2 | yeah failed wake that should be fixed is the one where lcd comes on but nothing displayed. if it doesnt power up at all thats something different |
| 19:33.55 | WisTilt2 | failed wake i fixed was unblank issue in fb not called all the time |
| 19:34.20 | jonpry | yeah there seems to be more than one kind |
| 19:34.27 | WisTilt2 | what you're seeing almost sounds like some kind of irq problem maybe? |
| 19:34.58 | WisTilt2 | emwe code looks right to me as far as the vgreg control at power on/off |
| 19:35.01 | jonpry | i haven't looked at dmesg. but maybe microp problem? |
| 19:35.08 | WisTilt2 | vreg* |
| 19:35.26 | WisTilt2 | yeah microp problem is definitely a possibility |
| 19:35.52 | WisTilt2 | you seeing any of those microp 0xca8 or similar errors? |
| 19:36.02 | emwe | perhaps i should query that panel id on topa. |
| 19:36.15 | WisTilt2 | emwe: good idea:) |
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| 19:36.31 | jonpry | yeah i got some i2c errors |
| 19:36.32 | emwe | WisTilt2: that readl(MSM_SPL_BASE+0x81034); is device agnostic? |
| 19:36.47 | WisTilt2 | think thats rhod only but not 100% |
| 19:36.58 | jonpry | 0x83c8 |
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| 19:37.18 | WisTilt2 | you getting them in the same place as the failed wake? |
| 19:37.37 | jonpry | well, that would require more controlled testing |
| 19:37.59 | WisTilt2 | you will see microp errors with the button light code. that isnt what's causing your issue though |
| 19:38.24 | jonpry | i see microp error on sleep. what is that all about |
| 19:38.34 | jonpry | and why does it set brightness to every level like 5 times? |
| 19:38.44 | WisTilt2 | what code and were lights on and/or kbd backlight? |
| 19:38.57 | WisTilt2 | oh, you are in manual mode |
| 19:38.58 | jonpry | all patches applied |
| 19:39.24 | WisTilt2 | those errors happen in manual brightness mode due to a value of zero at the end |
| 19:39.46 | jonpry | here is a wake where it ramped up, then completely down the brightness |
| 19:40.14 | WisTilt2 | try in autobl mode and see if it still occurs |
| 19:40.25 | jonpry | http://pastebin.com/wAajfNPK |
| 19:40.34 | WisTilt2 | i didnt write the manual brightness stuff so not my problem:) there are bugs in it though that need fixing |
| 19:41.02 | jonpry | :p |
| 19:41.36 | NeoMatrixJR | well that didn't last long. Just installed the 3/31 WisTilt2 kernel pack arrrghhh posted. slid the kb a few times and BOOM, boot animation |
| 19:43.36 | jonpry | WisTilt2, your autobl is too good for me |
| 19:45.45 | WisTilt2 | jonpry that error in logs is normal, just needs fixing |
| 19:46.16 | jonpry | is it normal to turn the display off while turning it on? |
| 19:46.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | as long as it is synchronized, yes ;) |
| 19:46.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | but it is not |
| 19:46.57 | WisTilt2 | jonpry in that test file it is:) experimenting is all so you can take that out |
| 19:47.20 | WisTilt2 | thats left over from tracing where timing problem was with unblank not hitting every time |
| 19:48.01 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR what system image you using? |
| 19:48.03 | jonpry | ok, i concede. its fixed with autobl on |
| 19:48.20 | WisTilt2 | yep, autobl code has no errors:) |
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| 19:49.54 | emwe | WisTilt2: [ 1.486968] htctopaz_init_panel: Initializing panel with id=0x01 that qualifies for AUO |
| 19:50.11 | WisTilt2 | yep sure is, one of 3 types of auo |
| 19:50.52 | WisTilt2 | so uninit should be bringing it fully down if you're using the current git tree source |
| 19:51.33 | jonpry | does htcrhodium-panel.c need to be copied to topaz-panel.c? |
| 19:52.20 | WisTilt2 | emwe did the appropriate copies didnt he? if that code is missing then panel isnt collapsing for sure |
| 19:52.58 | emwe | WisTilt2: we didn't copy. we had it before rhod :P |
| 19:53.16 | emwe | months even. |
| 19:53.20 | WisTilt2 | you have the register 0x1000 in the uninit code? |
| 19:53.20 | emwe | thx to Markinus |
| 19:53.43 | emwe | https://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.35/arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htctopaz-panel.c#line174 |
| 19:54.37 | WisTilt2 | yeah that looks like you should be shutting down then |
| 19:54.57 | emwe | studied the docs as we found them and found nothing really wrong |
| 19:54.59 | WisTilt2 | so your drain is coming from elsewhere |
| 19:55.03 | emwe | likely. |
| 19:55.12 | emwe | or lemme rephrase. i hope so. |
| 19:55.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | ARM9 has crashed. fuck yeah |
| 19:56.06 | WisTilt2 | pm.sleep mode=1 is what you want. dont remember if you said you tried an overnight with that or not. |
| 19:57.29 | emwe | WisTilt2: since days/weeks with =1 |
| 19:57.50 | WisTilt2 | and 7%hr is what you get? |
| 19:58.11 | emwe | yes. but .35 |
| 19:58.29 | emwe | so take with a grain of salt. |
| 19:58.41 | WisTilt2 | you should try on .27 and see if drain is same |
| 19:58.42 | emwe | i think i once got 16hours on .27 |
| 19:58.52 | Willd | How is your mmc speed in .35? |
| 19:59.06 | jonpry | its the mysterious power sucking gpio |
| 19:59.16 | emwe | good question Willd. ok? |
| 19:59.21 | Willd | emwe: Not worse? |
| 19:59.32 | Willd | emwe: Our's has been halved, so switching between apps is horrible |
| 19:59.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah yes, power sucking gpio. there might be a gpio that forces the fast charge mode or just battery discharge. have that on kovs. maybe you're hitting yours? |
| 19:59.50 | emwe | Willd: hm i think .35 is just fine. not any worse then .27 |
| 20:00.13 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: mind to elaborate a bit more? |
| 20:00.26 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev], would fast charge gpio suck current? |
| 20:00.27 | Willd | Could be some odd samsung shiznitz.. |
| 20:00.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: dunno. never tried without charger |
| 20:02.44 | emwe | hm! |
| 20:03.43 | emwe | if gpio_ac_detect is not defined it leaves the charging mode as is according to battery_smem. that would mean same charging mode in the state of wince then i hope |
| 20:04.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn that nand testing needs a spare phone |
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| 20:10.59 | NeoMatrixJR | ahh..grr too much work going on @ work. :D WisTilt2: running FRX06 |
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| 20:12.17 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR: happen everytime you open/close? i tried it on a couple of our phones here dozens of times and not one problem. Lights come on/off each time and no reboot. |
| 20:13.01 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, we have the same phone and that's never happened to me. slid kbd open/closed several times. |
| 20:13.36 | arrrghhh | did you wait for the phone to settle after boot |
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| 20:14.55 | NeoMatrixJR | maybe that's it |
| 20:16.00 | NeoMatrixJR | seems fine after that one crash. Rebooting phone to try and duplicate. |
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| 20:18.04 | WisTilt2 | anyone know if the End key gpio is handled by gpio_event.c or elsewhere? |
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| 20:20.35 | bzo | WisTilt2: look at msm-gpio-keys.c |
| 20:20.57 | WisTilt2 | ah, thanks bzo |
| 20:21.08 | bzo | there's not a great way to catch that without hacking the driver though |
| 20:23.37 | WisTilt2 | dirty hack would be easy to get it working but we probably want to hold off until userland ioctl for all this is done you think? |
| 20:24.11 | bzo | that was my thought |
| 20:24.23 | bzo | userland is probably close |
| 20:24.31 | bzo | the code and correct ioctl is already there |
| 20:24.39 | bzo | just have to figure out how to tell android which keys are mapped to buttons |
| 20:28.00 | emwe | geez, why is tehre some specific topaz gpio_ac_detect handling on batterys smem ... if (kovs||topa)... |
| 20:28.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | because kovs should be ripped outta there |
| 20:29.27 | emwe | lol, but then topa is the only with handling for gpio_ac_detect then |
| 20:29.34 | emwe | and i don't which gpio that is |
| 20:29.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | because others have no separate gpio? |
| 20:30.23 | emwe | ok, but why is there a special topa codepath when it's not set... bummer |
| 20:31.38 | emwe | hm, came in with the inital viruscrazy/camro patch |
| 20:35.07 | jonpry | that file is not good |
| 20:35.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | that stuff sucks |
| 20:35.17 | jonpry | can cause premature labotomy |
| 20:35.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | you need to implement battery as a generic battery driver |
| 20:35.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | and use pda_power for power supply |
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| 20:49.18 | NeoMatrixJR | sonofa... who keeps killing XDA forums?! |
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| 20:54.57 | NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh/WisTilt2: can't reproduce crash to boot animation. |
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| 20:58.53 | arrrghhh | well that's good |
| 20:58.58 | arrrghhh | they're doing updates on xda NeoMatrixJR |
| 20:59.31 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: any changes to your scbs code since what you sent me? im going to add it to a test kernel and run on all our 300's here for a couple days. |
| 21:00.06 | WisTilt2 | so arrrghhh, looks like no big complaints from the masses so far? |
| 21:00.30 | arrrghhh | nothing big. some people talking about this lag issue, but i can't recreate it. only a select few talking about it too. |
| 21:00.45 | arrrghhh | but other than that, i've sent every piece of feedback i could scrape up to ya ;) |
| 21:02.05 | WisTilt2 | startup lag probably. people need to let things get fully situated at boot. when you first wake up in the morning it takes a few to get things going, device is the same, lots going on there initially with radio and everything else. |
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| 21:02.17 | NeoMatrixJR | what complaints define this "lag issue" you speak of arrrghhh? |
| 21:05.52 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, lol no joke. |
| 21:06.26 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, just slowness. from the reports it's not first boot slowness, but that's really the only kind of horrible lag i experience is on boot - if i just let it sit/settle, it's fine. |
| 21:12.13 | NeoMatrixJR | nope...I'm getting it. Not not bad, but I'm seeing it. In gmail app right now. Seeing a bit of lag moving through the screens |
| 21:12.37 | NeoMatrixJR | I think |
| 21:12.56 | NeoMatrixJR | I would have to load a different kernel to see if it's any different |
| 21:13.16 | jonpry | WisTilt2, i sent you new scbs |
| 21:13.38 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, well is it unusual slowness, or just tired old phone slowness? |
| 21:13.43 | jonpry | and there is a relatively new rootfs up |
| 21:13.44 | arrrghhh | because the latter we can't really do anything about. |
| 21:13.49 | arrrghhh | we do our best... |
| 21:14.43 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: got it. still need the patch applied and use your same rtc file? |
| 21:14.54 | NeoMatrixJR | maybe it's not lagging. Now I think my mind is playing tricks on me |
| 21:15.30 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, better stop while you're behind, i'm just going to discount all of your future feedback otherwise :P |
| 21:17.11 | jonpry | arrrghhh, when are we going to have people on xda using scbs? |
| 21:17.38 | arrrghhh | jonpry, you tell me man |
| 21:17.50 | arrrghhh | when is it going to be ready for mass consumption? |
| 21:20.48 | NeoMatrixJR | I'm switching back to auto-kernel to see if it's the same... I won't leave it out there with a "it might be doing it." |
| 21:21.07 | jonpry | WisTilt2, i'll send you the rtc i have. i think you latest but might as well |
| 21:21.46 | WisTilt2 | might send new patch. this one is from previous tree i think |
| 21:22.34 | jonpry | arrrghhh, well i haven't heard of any real complaints from anyone except from me |
| 21:22.53 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:23.06 | arrrghhh | i thought you wanted to automate it more too |
| 21:23.19 | jonpry | patch would be very complicated at this point |
| 21:23.19 | jonpry | because i have your patches |
| 21:23.50 | WisTilt2 | ill just manually change makefile and apply the smem part of your patch it looks like? |
| 21:24.03 | jonpry | it seems like you have patch already applied. the pm.c you posted has my changes to it |
| 21:24.36 | WisTilt2 | lol, yeah that should go over well |
| 21:25.01 | jonpry | timer.c, makefile, scbs.h |
| 21:25.19 | WisTilt2 | yeah timer.c also |
| 21:25.34 | jonpry | arrrghhh, i have no idea how to automate it more. need data on when people made good/bad models |
| 21:25.57 | arrrghhh | jonpry, ok. so you think it's time to throw up a testing thread for your batt calib code? |
| 21:26.19 | jonpry | i do. would be nice if we could just use wistilt2 kernel and my rootfs |
| 21:26.42 | jonpry | he has modules and all that snazzy stuff |
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| 21:28.50 | jonpry | in theory this can work on all phones, but we need an overachiever for each one |
| 21:29.13 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 21:29.20 | arrrghhh | i guess i could lump it into the kernel testing thread |
| 21:29.24 | arrrghhh | but i don't want ppl getting confused. |
| 21:29.42 | jonpry | i'm guessing topaz will work oob |
| 21:29.45 | arrrghhh | or do you want to throw up the thread? it is your magic being tested after all. |
| 21:30.34 | jonpry | i don't want to be a burden, but threads are not really my style |
| 21:31.21 | jonpry | can't remember the last time i logged into xda |
| 21:32.32 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 21:32.46 | arrrghhh | i have no problem throwing up threads for ya. i do it for WisTilt2 after all ;) |
| 21:33.23 | jonpry | fortunately i do not have to worry about logging in atm as it is down |
| 21:33.41 | arrrghhh | yea it's been flapping all day |
| 21:36.43 | WisTilt2 | we can do that, just add scbs to my existing test kernel. bbl, i need to eat a late lunch guys. |
| 21:37.42 | NeoMatrixJR | xda's back online for the moment |
| 21:37.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | so let's crash it |
| 21:38.57 | NeoMatrixJR | NOOOOO... I've been trying to download highlandsun's ril all afternoon! |
| 21:45.18 | hyc | lol |
| 21:45.26 | hyc | every other time I click on it, it's down |
| 21:45.42 | hyc | I'm going to let someone else click every other time |
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| 21:47.51 | NeoMatrixJR | hyc: ok, my turn to click -> working now |
| 21:48.54 | NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh/WisTilt2: Seems the "lag" I thought I was getting is the same on the auto kernel |
| 21:49.02 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 21:49.20 | NeoMatrixJR | so just general phone slowness |
| 21:50.04 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 21:50.10 | arrrghhh | wait for it to settle when it boots |
| 21:50.49 | hyc | cool, the eri.xml that starfox posted has definitions for ERIs from 64 to 239. covers a lot of bases. |
| 21:51.33 | NeoMatrixJR | jonpry: you mentioned something about a new rootfs? Is this a testing one for something you're doing? Not seeing anything new on the auto-build site. |
| 21:54.14 | arrrghhh | damn i must've been the next to click, xda down again. |
| 21:54.22 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, yea it's for testing his battery code, nothing new on autobuild... |
| 21:54.27 | arrrghhh | you really do like to jump into convos :P |
| 21:56.13 | NeoMatrixJR | I'm at work so I catch the channel for a bit then have to go answer emails or write code. Then I hit compile and come back here... it sucks but it's the only way I can keep up with any of this. |
| 21:56.47 | arrrghhh | logs :P |
| 21:57.27 | NeoMatrixJR | I'd never catch up to live if I just read the logs |
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| 21:57.57 | arrrghhh | well... asking silly questions is your best solution? lol |
| 21:58.08 | NeoMatrixJR | :P |
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| 21:58.47 | NeoMatrixJR | besides, he said there was a new rootfs, not where specifically. For all I knew he could have finished code he posted! |
| 21:59.29 | hyc | ooo, another new kernel image |
| 21:59.32 | arrrghhh | well, quit using the jump to conclusions mat at least. |
| 21:59.35 | hyc | too bad I can't read about it |
| 21:59.38 | arrrghhh | hyc, lol |
| 21:59.41 | arrrghhh | ppcg :P |
| 21:59.47 | arrrghhh | your nemesis |
| 21:59.48 | hyc | ah, great! ;) |
| 21:59.54 | hyc | lol |
| 22:00.01 | arrrghhh | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2-development/138784-testing-updated-3-31-11-new-kernel-portrait-mode-boot.html |
| 22:00.18 | arrrghhh | my logo is better on that site anyways :P |
| 22:02.06 | hyc | burnouts? nice |
| 22:03.15 | NeoMatrixJR | well that was crash-tastic. test rill bounced right back to winmo w/ WT2's 3/31 kernel |
| 22:03.23 | arrrghhh | hyc, nissan skyline gt-r33 :D |
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| 22:04.34 | hyc | arrrghhh: very nice... |
| 22:04.44 | mizofizo | hey hyc, still need me to get that eri? I saw that starfox gave you one already... |
| 22:04.45 | hyc | NeoMatrixJR: mebbe a bad download? |
| 22:04.51 | NeoMatrixJR | and now it's fine. |
| 22:05.03 | hyc | mizofizo: wouldn't hurt to get it anyway |
| 22:05.06 | NeoMatrixJR | seems every time I changes something on my android build it has to crash once before it works |
| 22:05.08 | hyc | for comparison purposes |
| 22:05.20 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, hey at least it gets them out at the beginning. |
| 22:05.40 | mizofizo | np...will do and pm (if xda is up) later |
| 22:06.19 | NeoMatrixJR | so I wonder if I should leave this RIL in GSM mode or if I should try the CDMA mode...? |
| 22:06.51 | hyc | mizofizo: cool. or just attach to a post |
| 22:07.18 | hyc | right now you get to trade - netloc works in CDMA, SMS works in GSM |
| 22:07.25 | hyc | you can't have both yet |
| 22:07.47 | NeoMatrixJR | hmmm... best keep sms for now. I care more about it. |
| 22:08.44 | hyc | and I've been spending all day chatting on irc instead of writing code, sms is a while away :P |
| 22:10.28 | hyc | At some point I should figure out the init sequence so switching on the fly will work |
| 22:10.54 | hyc | but that should only be for switching from real CDMA to real GSM |
| 22:11.10 | hyc | fake GSM should go die quietly in a corner |
| 22:11.44 | Willd | fake GSM? >_> |
| 22:13.00 | hyc | Willd: the old RIL always tells Android it's got a GSM phone, even when the phone is really CDMA |
| 22:13.18 | Willd | hyc: Nasty |
| 22:13.32 | arrrghhh | Willd, sick thing is, it works. |
| 22:13.34 | hyc | yeah, totally... |
| 22:13.40 | hyc | well, except for netloc |
| 22:13.42 | hyc | and mms |
| 22:13.57 | arrrghhh | and switching to 2g manually |
| 22:14.00 | Willd | :p |
| 22:14.01 | hyc | and ... |
| 22:14.04 | arrrghhh | and displaying signal strength |
| 22:14.10 | Willd | A lot of ands :( |
| 22:14.11 | arrrghhh | uhm... showing the correct mode... |
| 22:14.20 | arrrghhh | Willd, but. it did work... by some miracle. |
| 22:14.37 | hyc | So I've got real CDMA support going in my new ril |
| 22:14.43 | hyc | just haven't written the SMS code yet |
| 22:14.51 | hyc | I think most other stuff works now |
| 22:15.33 | Willd | arrrghhh: Sickening |
| 22:15.43 | arrrghhh | hehe |
| 22:15.48 | NeoMatrixJR | oddly, even in "GSM" mode I keep switching back and forth between 3G and 1x (with R in the signal icon) on my CDMA phone (low signal area) |
| 22:16.39 | hyc | well, I've fixed the network registration reporting so it returns the actual network type, always |
| 22:16.48 | hyc | so even in fake gsm it knows it's 1x |
| 22:17.01 | hyc | but it doesn't know what 1x means... |
| 22:17.22 | hyc | I think if you go to settings it will say "unknown" for network type |
| 22:17.41 | NeoMatrixJR | any way to differentiate Ev (EVDO) vs 3G? or is that still coming? |
| 22:17.48 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, damn you |
| 22:17.59 | arrrghhh | there is no EV icon in the framework for AOSP. only 3g. |
| 22:18.00 | NeoMatrixJR | what? just asking.... |
| 22:18.00 | hyc | EvDO is 3G, on a CDMA phone |
| 22:18.08 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, we already went over it :P |
| 22:18.10 | arrrghhh | not too long ago |
| 22:18.13 | hyc | :P |
| 22:18.49 | hyc | but mebbe we could give them the E icon :P |
| 22:18.57 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:19.02 | arrrghhh | i thought about that |
| 22:19.03 | hyc | Since it already exists |
| 22:19.05 | NeoMatrixJR | well sorry I missed it! the EV icon must be added by providers then? pretty sure my wife's phone has an ev icon, and my sister in law's |
| 22:19.08 | arrrghhh | i guess it would be confusing tho. |
| 22:19.15 | hyc | yeah |
| 22:19.16 | arrrghhh | hyc, i'd kinda prefer to stick to what native android devices use. |
| 22:19.22 | hyc | Sure |
| 22:19.26 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, running AOSP? |
| 22:19.30 | hyc | but people do custom themes/skins too |
| 22:19.44 | NeoMatrixJR | running whatever the hell sprint and verizon put on their phones stock |
| 22:19.45 | hyc | so I'm sure you could install your own EV icon to replace 3G |
| 22:19.59 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, it depends on the phone... |
| 22:20.06 | arrrghhh | very few phones get pure clean AOSP tho |
| 22:20.08 | arrrghhh | very few. |
| 22:20.39 | hyc | yeah, and I'm kinda addicted to CyanogenMod customizations |
| 22:20.40 | NeoMatrixJR | I'd have to look at both of their phones again and check icons to be sure. The wife has a samsung transform and sis-in-law has the droid incredible. |
| 22:20.45 | hyc | like configurable powercontrol widget |
| 22:20.53 | Willd | arrrghhh: If any.. |
| 22:21.05 | Willd | arrrghhh: There are always foul hacks :( |
| 22:21.05 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, neither of those run AOSP |
| 22:21.07 | arrrghhh | Willd, no joke. |
| 22:21.15 | NeoMatrixJR | oh crap it's 5:20... I gotta go. Looks like I'll have to catch up with logs later to keep arrrghhh happy! later everyone! |
| 22:21.23 | hyc | adios |
| 22:21.23 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:21.25 | arrrghhh | cya |
| 22:21.55 | arrrghhh | no need to rehash things that have been hashed out already... |
| 22:21.56 | hyc | so what kind of server hardware is xda forums on ... |
| 22:22.04 | arrrghhh | didn't think that was unreasonable request |
| 22:22.08 | arrrghhh | hyc, they just upgraded recently |
| 22:22.15 | arrrghhh | i guess all their DB servers now run on SSD |
| 22:22.33 | hyc | oh. that can be good or bad, depending on SSD and filesystem options |
| 22:22.36 | arrrghhh | aw, thedeadcpu isn't in here. he knows quite a bit about it. ping him in #xdandroid if you wanna know more :P |
| 22:22.48 | hyc | nah, just curious |
| 22:22.50 | arrrghhh | yea AFAIK they're a giant RAID array of SSD's for db now. |
| 22:22.53 | arrrghhh | but i think they're moving slowly |
| 22:23.00 | arrrghhh | originally was going to cut all at once... |
| 22:28.32 | jonpry | iirc for the longest time cdma devices were shipping with large sections of not AOSP code |
| 22:29.04 | arrrghhh | wouldn't surprise me |
| 22:31.50 | jonpry | like they rewrote all of telephony |
| 22:32.44 | jonpry | i was trying to get it to do a dtmf keypress or something. and the theory was we could do it via reflection. but low and behold none of the normal classes even exist |
| 22:33.10 | WisTilt2 | jonpry, what do you think about having 2 separate threads, scbs and the normal test kernel. ill build scbs into my current setup to put on the scbs thread (arrrghhh will post that actually) and ill leave my test thread without scbs. that way we can track separately. |
| 22:33.30 | arrrghhh | ^^ i think that would be best |
| 22:33.57 | WisTilt2 | ill use 2 trees so i can keep any bugs isolated from each other also |
| 22:34.20 | jonpry | sounds good to me |
| 22:34.24 | stinebd | WisTilt2: did you give up on the ril yet? |
| 22:34.29 | arrrghhh | yes, otherwise it seems it will be hard to track bugs |
| 22:34.35 | WisTilt2 | lol, whats a ril? |
| 22:34.40 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:34.55 | hyc | lol |
| 22:35.02 | jonpry | i think scbs is pretty benign if you don't use the rootfs |
| 22:35.05 | WisTilt2 | :) no, i have my ril guy doing the framework that i think hyc can take from there. i got better things to do in the kernel |
| 22:35.15 | WisTilt2 | thing* |
| 22:35.19 | WisTilt2 | cant type today |
| 22:35.26 | WisTilt2 | jeeze |
| 22:35.38 | WisTilt2 | cant read either |
| 22:36.04 | WisTilt2 | hyc do you have prl in gsm in your test ril's? |
| 22:36.17 | hyc | prl in gsm? |
| 22:36.40 | WisTilt2 | prl working at all i mean? |
| 22:36.53 | hyc | mmmm. mostly |
| 22:37.17 | hyc | I actually have no idea what flag says "this net is in the PRL" |
| 22:37.31 | hyc | but retrieving the PRL number, yes, HTC_RSINFO |
| 22:38.06 | WisTilt2 | you're using neighboring cells though in gsm mode still? |
| 22:38.34 | hyc | yes |
| 22:40.01 | WisTilt2 | asking because we had a discussion this morning here at the office about what can and cant be removed. on our device we dont use a lot of what needs to be in this ril for android. |
| 22:40.29 | hyc | are you CDMA or GSM? |
| 22:40.29 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh ill have a jonpry kernel ready in about 30mins |
| 22:40.34 | WisTilt2 | gsm only |
| 22:40.46 | hyc | ah, then yeah you can strip out a lot of stuff |
| 22:40.49 | WisTilt2 | thats why we requested the cdma stuff from sprint |
| 22:40.59 | hyc | but neighboringcells is used for netloc |
| 22:41.15 | WisTilt2 | we're looking at adding cdma though now but not a high priority on our project yet |
| 22:41.51 | WisTilt2 | yes we use that, just wondered if you removed it and were trying some other method |
| 22:42.30 | hyc | nope, that's still in there |
| 22:42.41 | hyc | I haven't deleted any functionality at all |
| 22:42.47 | hyc | only added the CDMA side |
| 22:43.12 | WisTilt2 | and cleaned up the gsm code a bit hopefully, needed it:) |
| 22:43.27 | hyc | it still needs it :P |
| 22:43.59 | hyc | I haven't taken a high level view of it. just been focusing on bits and pieces |
| 22:44.18 | hyc | will need to take a step back to get a feel for the shape and what can be massaged better |
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| 23:06.14 | hyc | it's new Kernelmatic! toss any kernels in, get a merged kernel out!! |
| 23:08.40 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 23:08.43 | arrrghhh | read that post eh |
| 23:09.03 | hyc | yeah |
| 23:09.29 | arrrghhh | people are idiots, they assume we just push buttons and click on things |
| 23:09.32 | arrrghhh | stuff happens |
| 23:09.38 | arrrghhh | and out pops magic! w00t |
| 23:09.42 | hyc | lol |
| 23:09.49 | hyc | that's all it looks like, c'mon |
| 23:10.03 | hyc | hell, programming is so easy my cat can do it |
| 23:10.36 | hyc | yesterday, while I left my phone next to me, my cat came up alongside for a nuzzle |
| 23:10.42 | hyc | I was working, not paying attention |
| 23:11.03 | hyc | when I looked up, the cat walked away, and I had the Facebook widget installed on my home page |
| 23:11.14 | jonpry | .NET |
| 23:12.00 | arrrghhh | and by we i mean you guys :P |
| 23:12.10 | hyc | heh |
| 23:12.30 | hyc | you gotta wonder when a smartphone's touchscreen interface can be operated by your pets |
| 23:13.44 | jonpry | and htc still has tech support |
| 23:14.04 | hyc | LOL |
| 23:14.10 | WisTilt2 | i have my smartphone programmed to let my cat make new features via meow voice recognition |
| 23:14.25 | hyc | ah, that's brilliant |
| 23:14.34 | hyc | I haven't used any voice commands on my phone yet |
| 23:14.40 | hyc | I should just train it to my cats... |
| 23:15.13 | WisTilt2 | took some time getting that patch all in there jonpry but building your kernel now |
| 23:17.17 | WisTilt2 | building it on my other machine, only a dual core and so much slower than my i7, spoils ya |
| 23:17.58 | jonpry | thanks Wilstilt2 |
| 23:18.06 | WisTilt2 | jonpry you want to dl it and be the first to try it? |
| 23:18.08 | WisTilt2 | its ready |
| 23:18.36 | arrrghhh | seems fitting |
| 23:20.19 | WisTilt2 | i see a jonpry timeout coming soon... |
| 23:20.42 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:21.27 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh if you want to test it, its up, just replace wistilt2 for jonpry filename |
| 23:21.55 | arrrghhh | k |
| 23:24.25 | hyc | wistilt2: would love it if your ril guy could tell me where my 3 FIXMEs in requestRegistrationState should be set from |
| 23:24.37 | jonpry | no timeout today |
| 23:24.42 | jonpry | saved by the bell |
| 23:24.49 | hyc | [7] Concurrent Services flag, [10] roaming indicator, [11] inPRL |
| 23:24.56 | WisTilt2 | jonpry you dl it? |
| 23:28.52 | jonpry | not yet, have to deal with the gf |
| 23:29.06 | arrrghhh | lol jonpry you sound like me |
| 23:30.20 | WisTilt2 | you guys just need to marry them, then they'll leave you alone:) |
| 23:31.08 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 23:37.57 | hyc | hahah. timeout |
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| 23:59.22 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i'll test when i get home. i want to get some directions from jonpry so i don't eff it up :P |
| 23:59.42 | arrrghhh | on that note, i am goin home. cya guys on the flip side ;) |