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01:42.32machichehi all
01:42.43rpierce99hey machiche how goes the port
01:43.11machichewell,  reading xD
01:43.56machichedo you think i actually need to compile a new kernel? or use another one?
01:44.15rpierce99as i said before, i'm not anywhere near an expert on this topic, i have no idea
01:44.33rpierce99i say just try stuff and see what works
01:45.07machichei'm on it, but o get stucked on the bootloader and system just hangs up
01:45.25machichethx
01:45.36rpierce99on which kernel
01:45.57machicheFRX03 using the Topaz Mtype
01:46.10rpierce99i thought there was a whitestone mtype
01:47.21machicheyes, but there's no way to boot setting it
01:47.53machicheit's 2514
01:49.08rpierce99did you try a kernel from the droid eris
01:50.37machicheyes, with no luck.. yet
01:52.05machichewell, i got an Eris zImage but i need more than that to full test it; now i'm reading about android kernel compiling for Armv6 support
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03:22.38arrrghhhrpierce99, looks like i missed the fun :P
03:22.57rpierce99nah single test
03:23.09arrrghhhyea
03:23.17arrrghhhgetting more stuffs about our CDMA secrets
03:24.24rpierce99but he said he'd be back!
03:24.30arrrghhhi noes
03:25.30arrrghhhthat was like 4 hours ago lol
03:25.59arrrghhhi guess he left only an hour and a half ago tho.
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03:55.04WisTilt2arrrghhh/rpierce99, you guys alive and up for a couple more information gathering tests?
03:55.23rpierce99yep
03:55.43arrrghhhw00t
03:55.48arrrghhhi mean, yes sir.
03:55.52arrrghhh:D
03:56.30WisTilt2lol
03:57.31arrrghhhhow you doin man?
03:57.38WisTilt2this next one is mainly to see if the modem supports these commands so won't be too exciting, unless we get back some interesting info
03:58.17arrrghhhit's all part of the fun
03:58.38arrrghhhi was grepping my radio logs at work
03:58.46arrrghhhand seeing it tracing my path to work
03:58.56arrrghhhit was nice seeing that information in the logs :D
04:01.51WisTilt2was the lat/log changing with moving and how far did you have to travel for each change?
04:02.02arrrghhhlets see
04:02.07arrrghhhwork is ~12mi
04:02.19arrrghhhand i had 3 coords between my house and my office
04:02.37arrrghhhthe third being the final @ my office.
04:03.40WisTilt2nice, well we know that part is working now:)
04:03.47arrrghhhyea
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04:03.54arrrghhhit'll be really nice when i can see it in maps :P
04:04.06arrrghhhbut seeing it in the logs makes me very happy :D
04:04.27rpierce99arrrghhh: remember when i said i lied about the RIL and the text came from RILD, well I lied then, i was right the first time
04:04.52arrrghhhlol
04:04.56arrrghhhyou're just a liar.
04:05.00rpierce99agreed
04:06.03WisTilt2.so 17 af295bc43ebc0cb90c7bece0ea808fe3
04:06.52WisTilt2boot, data, log, you know the drill
04:07.04arrrghhhheh ok
04:07.09arrrghhhboooooting
04:07.14WisTilt2actually let it pull a couple minutes of tower info before log
04:07.19arrrghhhk
04:07.41arrrghhhlol @ GSM RHODIUM DETECTED
04:07.49WisTilt2glad to hear coordinates changed like that.  i know we're not spinning our wheels now
04:08.28WisTilt2yeah, gotta love the generic output
04:09.09arrrghhhhuh
04:09.15arrrghhhactually took a little bit to get svc
04:09.23rpierce99it's just you
04:09.24arrrghhhusually it would boot and data would already be up :P
04:10.10WisTilt2you are running the test system image right?
04:10.20arrrghhhyea
04:10.37arrrghhhthe one you gave me yesterday
04:10.40arrrghhher us
04:10.41arrrghhh:P
04:10.52WisTilt2only change is the cmds im sending to modem so should all be the same
04:10.54arrrghhhthat was kinda a slow boot
04:11.09arrrghhhlogs comin
04:11.25WisTilt2did you get 3g or E first then 3g?
04:11.36arrrghhhi just saw 3g
04:11.43arrrghhhas soon as the radio came up
04:12.50WisTilt2lol, got both of your logs at exactly same time
04:12.57arrrghhhnice
04:13.06rpierce99great minds.... ok, average minds think alike?
04:13.46AstainHellbringwonders if nand rhodium works with cdma rhod using the gsm radio...
04:14.05arrrghhhhehe
04:14.12arrrghhhAstainHellbring, no
04:14.16arrrghhhSIM busts the deal
04:14.24arrrghhhIIRC neopeek booted w/o SIM
04:14.25arrrghhhon his 300
04:14.34AstainHellbringlame
04:14.48arrrghhhnot like nand is stable yet
04:14.54arrrghhhhelp fix it
04:14.58arrrghhhmr gsm
04:14.58rpierce99i don't think it was the sim, he changed the rild init line to not call /dev/smd1
04:15.16arrrghhhyea he probably did some fiddling
04:15.21rpierce99same effect though, no service
04:15.24arrrghhhi thought he still couldn't get it to boot with the sim tho rpierce99
04:15.31rpierce99maybe
04:15.33arrrghhhi didn't actually talk to him
04:15.36rpierce99not really following nand
04:15.40arrrghhhso i'm far from positive :P
04:15.43AstainHellbringarrrghhh hmm what can one do to help?
04:15.49arrrghhhAstainHellbring, test, see what's wrong
04:16.05arrrghhhacl needs some kernel help
04:16.09arrrghhhhe's flyin solo on the kernel
04:16.10rpierce99looks like our cdma probing modem commands didn't work eh WisTilt2
04:16.20WisTilt2nope not at all
04:16.51arrrghhhlots of errors
04:18.41AstainHellbringarrrghhh ok I'll install it tomorrow and see what happens
04:18.50arrrghhhk
04:20.27WisTilt2#18 517dfa4d57bcc4dc18e98e3c070afd06
04:26.20rpierce99hm, hardlocked at bootani it appears, i was logging the whole time, wonder if it's a one-off
04:26.37arrrghhhdamn same
04:26.39arrrghhhi wasn't logging
04:26.54rpierce99ah, file is empty though
04:27.12WisTilt2froze before desktop?
04:27.17arrrghhhyea
04:27.19rpierce99yep
04:27.23arrrghhhseemed right before it was getting thar
04:27.29arrrghhhbootani freeze
04:27.34WisTilt2interesting, guess i hit a modem nerve
04:28.08rpierce99adb hadn't started yet, still was waiting for device
04:29.18arrrghhhbooting again
04:29.22arrrghhhi have a partial log
04:29.28arrrghhhwe'll see if it locks up again...
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04:30.59WisTilt2if partial log has anything at all, hopefully we can see if it made it to radio on or not
04:31.44arrrghhhfroze again
04:31.47arrrghhhgot a log tho, 1 sec
04:34.09WisTilt2yep that helped narrow it down.  guess we'll have to play the 1 command at a time game now to find which one kills it.
04:34.24arrrghhhk
04:34.48rpierce99we can do rapid fire, give one to me, one to argh until we find it
04:36.09WisTilt2have to build each one still though but yeah that would speed it up a bit
04:38.03WisTilt2guess arrrghhh can take this one, 19 cb878f9239c7381f6256d084ef365f30
04:38.08arrrghhhk
04:38.17arrrghhhgot it
04:38.19WisTilt2building 20 now
04:39.26WisTilt2rpierce99 20 3072e343decc216db6b383843b78550f
04:42.05rpierce9920 appears to have frozen
04:42.14rpierce99partial log?
04:42.24WisTilt2yes please
04:42.42arrrghhhfrozen as well
04:42.43arrrghhhlo
04:42.45arrrghhhg
04:43.19WisTilt2both froze, thats not good
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04:44.46arrrghhhsame issue as well, froze on bootani.
04:46.07WisTilt2guess it doesnt like these commands at the point im trying them then.  going to move them to after radio fully up and try all at once again
04:46.37arrrghhhk
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04:50.29WisTilt2#21 1f81a3ab11685d41f07be675db6b07c6
04:52.57rpierce99froze
04:53.54rpierce99basically the same spot
04:54.37WisTilt2froze much earlier that time
04:54.48arrrghhhstill flying droids for me
04:54.57arrrghhhah there it is.
04:55.18WisTilt2did it get past droids arrrghhh?
04:55.40arrrghhhno
04:55.44arrrghhhalthough the screen is blank
04:55.54arrrghhhi never saw the desktop/lock screen.
04:56.40WisTilt2ok back to a baseline, standby
04:59.25WisTilt2#22 07b2aaab8071e224f999938f0664b2cd
05:01.58rpierce99frozen
05:04.31arrrghhhditto, logs comin
05:22.23arrrghhhWisTilt2, so... anything useful?
05:22.39WisTilt2still tracing
05:22.44arrrghhhnp
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05:31.55WisTilt2#23 070da2aa017bf0519bbe3c867dc3993b this shouldnt lockup
05:35.28rpierce99i've got a lock screen
05:36.15arrrghhhnice.  anything special to test WisTilt2 ?
05:36.18rpierce99and data, wait a couple minutes then log?
05:36.36WisTilt2yep same routine
05:36.39arrrghhhk
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05:43.52WisTilt2guess ill have to do more tracing to find all the pieces.  we'll pick this up tomorrow, thanks again guys.
05:44.11rpierce99any time, g'nite
05:44.23arrrghhhthank you
05:44.25arrrghhhnn
05:44.57WisTilt2nite guys
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13:36.47Cotullaðóí
13:36.49Cotullahey
13:36.59Midnighthey cotulla
13:37.17dcordesaye
13:37.30Cotullaohh dcordes here
13:37.41Cotullahow is progress?
13:37.57dcordesworking to improve shr
13:38.13dcordestre9 seems to have success with bt on leo in ubuntu
13:38.18dcordesthanks to your advise
13:38.19Midnight@cotulla,how's magldr on rhod?
13:38.26Cotullanice, working
13:38.38Cotullaproblem in the rom now :)
13:38.44Cotullawhat exactly u improve, dcordes?
13:38.45Midnightsense?
13:38.51Cotullano, 2.3 clear?
13:39.04Midnight2.3,nice :)
13:39.28fakkerprivet
13:39.53dcordesCotulla: updated radio software and other programs to latest version, added fennec browser ..
13:40.16gauner1986hey Cotulla
13:40.26dcordesCotulla: theres also a new keyboard coming up (wince / ad style)
13:40.44Cotullafakker, hola
13:41.08Cotullagau, Hallo
13:41.44Cotullaso BT is working now?
13:42.40gauner1986dcordes: what was the problem with bt on ubuntu?
13:43.19Cotullaone problem
13:43.23Cotullait not worked
13:43.23Cotulla:D
13:43.28Cotullacap with us
13:43.29Cotulla:DF
13:43.30Cotulla:D
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13:48.11Cotullafennec is firefox?
13:48.55Midnightye
13:53.56MidnightDo you know if diamond's lcd controller supports scaling? i'd like to make it qvga,but i didn't find anything about scaling on the web..
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13:55.00Cotullayes supports
13:55.22CotullaI tried qvga on my dmd before it died
13:57.19Midnightand do you know how to scale it in android?,i tried in kernel,but in controller file,there wasn't any way to set it..still thank you for that info
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14:01.34AstainHellbringCotulla how goes the rhod nand stuff?
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14:08.59CotullaMidnight, u developer?
14:09.52MidnightI'm just a small chef..i've not done anything special..i have 2 builds on diamond section on xda and i'm working on sense
14:10.17Cotullau need modify driver
14:10.33Midnighthard?
14:10.39Cotullacoding...
14:11.02Cotullamaybe make WQVGA from RHO also :D
14:11.31Midnightlol,someone is working on it for fuze..but if i reach something useful on diamond,then i'll try with other phones
14:11.59Cotullasense from Buzz may work
14:12.09Cotullaif make 400x240 from RHO
14:12.10Cotulla:D
14:13.05Midnighti want to port sense from hero/buzz or other qvga/hvga phones,so i don't have to resize sense and a lot of things..
14:13.32CotullaHVGA is 1.5
14:14.12Midnightwhat's next after rhod cotulla?
14:14.45CotullaTPZ and then back to LEO+
14:14.58Midnightso no diamond love :(
14:15.09Cotulladmd have all working...
14:15.21Midnightbut no nand...
14:15.23Cotullaold devices are slow, are not so interesting
14:15.34Cotullacopy [acl]'s tinboot
14:15.52MassStashwhich is amazing...
14:15.58Cotulla?
14:16.05MassStashacl's tinboot
14:16.07Midnighti tried with that,but kernel needs to be edited,because panel wasn't initialized
14:17.18Cotullayeah, anyway this devices developed long time
14:17.31Cotullathey can be finished without DFT team :)
14:17.57Midnightbut atleast port magldr,i can work on the builds :),but for sure i'll work on tinboot
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14:21.37Cotullaporting means need device...
14:22.18Midnightyou should start a "donate a diamond to me" thread :)
14:23.14Cotullaanyway I think dmd doesn't need our help
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14:23.47Midnightif you think so,you are free to think what you want .)
14:24.35Cotulla:)
14:25.01Midnightoh my shift is broken.. :) i can't make well smileys lol
14:26.12Cotullathey are look a bit sadistic here, in Opera.
14:27.27Midnighti hate opera :) chrome is better,but lol let's keep the talk in topic
14:28.00Cotullachrome?
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14:28.02Cotullapfff
14:28.19Cotullaafter Android I doubt this monkeys can do something good
14:28.51Cotullawell, it downloaded updates 30mb at background, when I was with GPRS connection without my permission
14:29.16Midnightluckily i have dsl line,it can download as much as it wants
14:29.37Cotulla"it wants"
14:29.38Cotullanot u wants
14:30.01CotullaI am using fast Internet also, but it was GPRS connection during travel
14:30.20Cotullaanyway it update some kind of BD often
14:30.21Midnighton travel i use my opera lol
14:30.28Cotullait also eat traffic
14:30.51Cotullait fast, yes, but I don't like such kind of attitude for users
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14:31.58Midnightbut ff4 for me sucks...
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14:32.54Cotullahate it also
14:33.04Cotullato many advertisement at the first
14:33.17Cotullaas well don't find it so comfortable like Opera
14:33.21Midnighti tried about 10 betas and them were so unstable,and sloow...
14:33.25Cotullabut Opera slow to load usually
14:33.40Midnightyes,slow on startup...
14:33.43Cotullabut there built-in IRC :)
14:33.47CotullaI am here from Opera now...
14:34.01Midnighti'm from pdgin
14:35.08hycusing finch here
14:35.25hycleave it running on my server, use connectbot from my phone when traveling
14:35.56Cotullahehe]
14:36.44Midnightlol
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14:37.33hycinside a screen session, works great, low bandwidth needs. even over gprs it's tolerable.
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15:42.29arrrghhhCotulla, so magldr is done?  do you need CDMA testers?  :D
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15:51.05Cotullaya
15:52.02arrrghhhsweet!  shoot me some info if you have something for me to play with.
15:52.19arrrghhh@xdandroid.com <--- email
15:53.00Cotullawe need test it together, in case if something goes wrong :)
15:53.12arrrghhhheh
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16:02.01[acl]arrrghhh: dood.. is the whole ppcg restructing cuz of ur fight with tiad ? lol
16:02.16arrrghhhdunno why that happened
16:02.25[acl]i dunno
16:02.27[acl]lol
16:02.32[acl]mods came in after that brutal battle
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16:08.07arrrghhhi know it
16:08.17arrrghhhi think mods just wanted to subjugate development
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16:08.53[acl]arrrghhh: well its taking some getting used to, but its for the best.
16:08.59arrrghhhagreed
16:09.02arrrghhhshocked me at first too :P
16:13.12gauner1986hows tetris on rhod magldr in the meanwhile?
16:13.30[acl]can we get more games :-)
16:13.36[acl]lol
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16:23.42MassStashpacman....
16:23.53[acl]i was thinking galaga
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16:28.32Cotullaarcanoid
16:30.01[acl]oo that would be good too
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16:30.52MassStashah yea, +1 to galaga
16:31.21MassStashacl, vol buttons dont operate up n down for me in recovry
16:31.32MassStashso i use arrow keys on kb
16:32.10Cotullaanyway rho have small amount of direct keys
16:34.48MassStashkeyboard man, keyboard...
16:35.04Cotullait's micorp
16:35.24gauner1986+1 for pacman
16:35.32CotullaI don't want to have dirty deals with it inside MAGLDR
16:35.44MassStashMAGLDR can't load the mircop?
16:35.46gauner1986rhod does not have a dpad?
16:35.48MassStashah, got cha
16:36.00Cotullagau, no
16:36.55arrrghhhgauner1986, 4-buttons at the bottom
16:37.05arrrghhhalthough i hear our end key is microp too :P
16:37.24Cotullano
16:37.29Cotullathere power + end
16:37.32Cotullagpio keys
16:37.50arrrghhhmaybe it was just the LED light for end key..?
16:38.12Cotulladon
16:38.15Cotulla't know
16:38.19CotullaI am thinkg about something else
16:38.32arrrghhhk
16:38.37Cotullaarrrghhh, which kernel u are using on RHO usually? 27 or 35?
16:38.41arrrghhh27
16:38.47arrrghhh35 isn't up/stable yet
16:39.01Cotullaso 35 is like my 32...
16:39.25arrrghhhnot functional?  :P
16:39.51Cotullaya
16:40.57MassStashlol
16:41.07MassStashwhy not just make something that works with 27?
16:41.19arrrghhh27 is a cluster
16:41.23arrrghhhour 27 at least.
16:41.31arrrghhhneeds to be taken out back and shot :P
16:41.43Cotullayeah it's easy to compile 27 and make rom :)
16:41.56Cotullabut question is to improve something
16:42.01arrrghhh^^
16:42.03arrrghhhindeed
16:42.16arrrghhhCotulla, emwe is working on 35 on topa
16:42.28arrrghhhand alex has it working pretty well on kov, not sure where he's at tho.
16:42.34arrrghhhhe seems to be the farthest along in the .35 trek.
16:43.32Cotullayeah
16:43.43Cotullajust now 32 without sense maybe useless
16:43.54arrrghhhwhy?
16:44.14[acl]blasphemy !! .. continue on 32 bro..
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16:46.07Cotullashit
16:46.11CotullaI wanna eat my walpeper
16:46.15Cotulla*wallpaper
16:46.18Cotullait looks so...
16:46.19Cotullammm
16:46.24fakkerwhat is it?
16:46.24arrrghhhdo i want to know?
16:46.27Cotullatasty
16:46.35Cotulla:(
16:46.40fakkerheesburger
16:46.44arrrghhhCotulla, why is 32 useless without sense...?
16:46.59Cotullabecause it was main idea
16:47.14Cotullabut ofcourse I still believe 32 from htc better than 35 from codeaurora
16:47.32arrrghhho
16:47.38Cotullaor easy to port htc drivers
16:47.46arrrghhheh, put sense aside for the time being
16:47.50arrrghhhyou can add that later :P
16:48.03Cotullawe abandon sense attempts
16:48.05Cotulla2.3 clear :)
16:48.08arrrghhhnice
16:48.13fakkeryou can't handle sense
16:48.14arrrghhh<3 aosp
16:48.15fakkeror wp7!
16:48.18arrrghhhfakker, good.
16:48.23arrrghhhi don't need/want either :D
16:48.33AstainHellbringpoops on wp7
16:48.33fakkerpoints at your device and laughs
16:48.47arrrghhhmeh
16:48.48arrrghhhi <3 my kbd.
16:48.53fakkerfuuu
16:48.55arrrghhh:D
16:48.59CotullaPRO7 may have better kbd
16:49.00Cotulla:P
16:49.03arrrghhhyea
16:49.09fakkerthat's my upgrade time baby
16:49.10arrrghhhi was going to say, you should get the pro7
16:49.14arrrghhhCotulla
16:49.17arrrghhhand port android to it :D
16:49.32CotullaI gotta get one soon
16:49.35Cotulla:P
16:49.40fakkerwhatever Cotulla gets, i'll probably get
16:49.44fakkerjust so i can annoy him
16:49.47fakker]:D
16:49.50Cotullamaybe make leo with kbd
16:49.51Cotullafrom it
16:50.07fakkerget iphone
16:50.15arrrghhh7pro=tp3
16:50.20Cotullafuck iphone fuck apple fuck jobs
16:50.25arrrghhhlol
16:50.25fakker:D
16:50.27arrrghhhfakker, you ass
16:50.32arrrghhhjust trying to incite riots.
16:50.37fakkeri made him go crazy
16:51.05arrrghhh7pro looks to be single-core tho...
16:51.05arrrghhhhm.
16:51.19Cotullaor maybe remove support of wordwide devices and make life easy!
16:53.14Cotullathere old 8250 anyway
16:53.22Cotullano 3d display or 1 gb ram or dual camera
16:53.39Cotulla1024 ram OMG
16:54.14CotullaI remember how I inserted SIMMs into slots and there was only 12 mb
16:57.42[acl]i phone ? jebus..
16:58.00Cotulla[a cl]? Automatic CompLier?
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17:10.03arrrghhhCotulla, access control list more likely :P
17:18.11fakkerarrrghhh, that's how i've read it too
17:18.32arrrghhhhe is a cisco guy in his real life IIRC
17:18.47fakkerim going going, back back to cali cali
17:18.58fakkercool
17:19.17Cotullabut why he don't change his nick to something more nice, like "CrazyMonkeysControl"?
17:19.21fakkeri no longer feel so alone, just more stupid
17:19.41arrrghhhlol
17:19.53CotullaCrazyEagle
17:19.58Cotulla:D
17:20.00arrrghhhheh
17:20.06fakkeryou talk like this now?
17:20.12CrazyEagleyes
17:20.17fakkeryou troll
17:20.21CrazyEagleyes
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17:20.26arrrghhhjoins the fun
17:20.27CrazyEagleapt kill fakker
17:20.27aptACTION shoots a ionized pseudoelectron gun at fakker
17:20.40arrrghhhsits back down
17:20.41CrazyEaglegood job, apt
17:20.44fakkergood thing i was good at quake
17:21.09CrazyEagleunhandled exception inside quake.exe : fakker will be terminated.
17:21.15fakkerfuu
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17:21.21CrazyEagleu lose
17:21.22fakkersuka
17:21.29CrazyEagleu lose
17:21.34fakkerplease insert 1 credit
17:21.57CrazyEaglesorry fakker, ur credit in the another castle!
17:22.09CrazyEagleta-da-ta-ta-da-dam
17:22.34fakker;[
17:22.43fakkeri like Cotulla more
17:25.34CrazyEagleu lose
17:26.12fakkerget me fake iphone 4 with android
17:26.37David_Doesn't exist YET!
17:27.04fakkeryeah, it does
17:27.17fakker2.1 tho
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17:28.16CrazyEagle2.1 old
17:28.22David_Never heard of it :O
17:28.38fakkeri saw video back last year, i found it again - looks like there was nothing else from it
17:28.52CrazyEagleslow
17:29.37David_Well.. i've seen a Galaxy S having iOS 4 on it
17:29.51fakkerme too
17:29.59fakkeri made that video, in 1 night
17:30.04David_Any ideas how much does that costs ?
17:31.30fakkerinsert coin
17:33.35arrrghhhso, htc-linux anyone?
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17:34.01CrazyEaglelistening arrghhh?
17:34.20arrrghhheh, i got nothin.
17:34.34arrrghhhother than to beg you to look at XTRA :P  we need your disasm skillz
17:34.59jokkermaybe later arrrghhh
17:35.05jokkerinsert credit
17:35.07arrrghhhlol
17:35.25CrazyEagleSorry, ur XTRA in the another castle
17:35.46jokkerta-da-ta-ta-da-dam
17:35.55CrazyEagleepic win
17:35.57arrrghhhi must get to this castle.
17:36.00jokkerhighfive
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17:41.04[acl]arrrghhh: lol so all the tiad threads are closed.. victory for u ?
17:41.10arrrghhh[acl], meh.
17:41.18arrrghhhnot sure if it's a victory, but whatever.
17:41.23arrrghhhi wish he would've just worked with us
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17:42.03CrazyEagleall castles closed?
17:42.09arrrghhhlol for tiad8 yes
17:42.22arrrghhhhe's now posting his builds on twitter lol
17:42.31CrazyEaglehe did something bad?
17:43.29CrazyEaglehe insert hard pron inside builds?
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17:44.10ledyoungHi
17:44.31arrrghhhCrazyEagle, kinda, but warez instead of p0rn
17:44.39jokkerwho is tiad8
17:44.45arrrghhhplus he kanged open source stuff without giving anything back.
17:44.49arrrghhhfakker, some fakker
17:49.07ledyoungt piac u cà?
17:49.14fakker2 pac?
17:49.17fakkerhe dead
17:49.18arrrghhhlol
17:49.20ledyounguahauhauaha
17:49.22ledyoung:)
17:49.29ledyoungevery year
17:49.41fakkerlook at yo fingers, they orrrrange
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17:49.48ledyounghe dead with the singer of tokyo MMMotel
17:49.58fakkertokio
17:50.07ledyoungHotel
17:50.10ledyoungNot MMMMMotel
17:50.13ledyoung-.-
17:50.14fakkersexeh boys
17:50.22ledyoungcapitan ovvio è tra noi
17:50.35David_Well they actually have renamed their band to Tsunami Hotel
17:50.56fakkerouch
17:51.01ledyoung@ David uhauhauahauahuaha
17:51.18ledyoungo shit
17:53.14arrrghhhledyoung, if you want to chat, go to -chat...
17:53.38ledyoungoè
17:54.08arrrghhhdefinitely don't PM me.
17:54.46ledyoungray man
17:54.49ledyoungor gay man?
17:54.55ledyoungthe second choise
17:54.58ledyoungfor you
17:55.01ledyoungaaaaaaaarghhhh
17:55.08arrrghhh...
17:55.29arrrghhhi don't see what my sexual orientation has to do with anything.
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17:57.09CrazyEagleit's important for XTRA
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17:57.14Alex[sp3dev]hey guys
17:57.15arrrghhhCrazyEagle, lol
17:57.20arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], how goes it
17:57.32CrazyEaglehey
17:58.05Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: it's 9 pm.. and i've just come home. we had exam going till 8 pm. but overall it goes. i've almost fixed kovsky camera while sitting on the toilet today
17:58.18arrrghhhlol
17:58.22arrrghhhthat sounds like a productive poopin
17:58.32CrazyEagle6355 in Magic?
18:03.29[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: dood
18:03.39Alex[sp3dev][acl]: yo
18:03.51[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: i got the hunger.. i wanna look at that lk code
18:03.59[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: on ur git ?
18:04.38Alex[sp3dev][acl]: nuffin interesting there. just replaced framebuffer fonts, rotated 180 degrees for kovsky and added i2c and backlight control. haven't digged into that
18:04.54[acl]ahh
18:05.07[acl]ahh .. want me to make a git we can both contribute ?
18:05.31[acl]or not worth it ?
18:05.35Alex[sp3dev][acl]: not really. not this week. i'll be free for this stuff on next thursday
18:05.41[acl]coo
18:05.45[acl]we shall talk then
18:05.47Alex[sp3dev][acl]: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?rz6lz3kpq557u5r, anyway, look at it
18:07.33Alex[sp3dev][acl]: basically, what is todo: wrap it into tinboot to load at 0x0, add keyboard and menu (if you want.. if not - just keyboard to enter fastboot), clean up usb driver (separate charger from it and add charger for rhod/kovs) and hardcode partition table. will be enough to get it working. next will be adding the ext2/fat support for mmc and persistent settings in nand via atags
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18:08.05[acl]dang.. thats a crazy todo list
18:08.09[acl]but ill take a look
18:08.10arrrghhhlol
18:09.13fakkerand then do his laundry
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18:15.04NeoMatrixJRhey arrrghhh, how goes the testing w/ WisTilt2?  I keep hoping to help out, but he always signs in when I'm about to leave.
18:15.28arrrghhheh
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18:15.39arrrghhhit's just testing at this phase, nothing real juicy yet
18:15.50arrrghhhi just throw his RIL on and dump logs, he looks and sees what he needs to change.
18:15.59NeoMatrixJRah
18:16.14NeoMatrixJRnothing working any better yet then?  Not something you can run?
18:16.27arrrghhhstill lots of code missing...
18:16.46arrrghhhsome aspects seem better, but nothing that's real tangible.
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18:17.01arrrghhhhe has a lot of work to flesh out the code for CDMA.
18:17.18arrrghhhright now he's just putting up test stuff to help him flesh out that code.
18:17.24arrrghhhi don't think we need another 400 tester either :P
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18:17.38NeoMatrixJRI'm sure.  Does he have a CDMA device he can actually work with or is relying on testers on here?
18:17.39arrrghhhif you had a 500 on vz, that might be helpful... maybe not, but we already have enough 400 testers.
18:17.40NeoMatrixJR:P
18:17.44arrrghhhrelying on us.
18:18.11NeoMatrixJRno way VZW...bad mojo
18:18.45NeoMatrixJRDO. NOT. WANT.
18:18.59arrrghhhmeh
18:19.01arrrghhhi'm just saying.
18:20.06NeoMatrixJRtoo bad we can't put a 500 on Sprint
18:20.27arrrghhhlol who would want to
18:20.40NeoMatrixJRI can't believe there's that much difference between a 400 and a 500....
18:20.45arrrghhhthere's not
18:20.49arrrghhhkeyboard is the main diff
18:20.58CrazyEaglehappy with LEO
18:21.17arrrghhhCrazyEagle, make us happy with RHO :D
18:21.50CrazyEaglerobot like only one wife
18:22.05CrazyEaglenot 5-6 with strange names 210 300  400 500 etc
18:22.08CrazyEagle:D
18:22.16arrrghhhheh
18:22.30fakkerwheres my fake iphone
18:22.33fakkeri saw russians have it
18:22.40arrrghhhCrazyEagle, every carrier likes to make their own version.
18:22.40fakkermaybe i'll get one from there
18:22.49CrazyEagleyeah
18:22.54CrazyEagleit's why I am happy with LEO
18:23.05fakkerheh
18:23.09fakkerdiam300!
18:23.15fakkeror whatever i had
18:23.15CrazyEagleI have some dmd, but it died
18:23.21fakkeri still got it, somewhere
18:25.58NeoMatrixJRmogul/6800! Yeah!
18:26.11arrrghhhheh, i miss all the magical buttons on my mogul.
18:26.21arrrghhhNeoMatrixJR, what's up with BT?
18:26.24NeoMatrixJRI miss the scroll wheel.
18:26.26arrrghhhah crap, i need to go to lunch.
18:26.36arrrghhhbb
18:26.41NeoMatrixJRping me when u get back arrrghhh
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18:26.45NeoMatrixJRdamn...missed it
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19:01.48arrrghhhNeoMatrixJR, but i can read logs :P  what's up?
19:06.18CrazyEagleshow us ur certificate for log-reading pls at first.
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19:07.10CrazyEagleand paper from psychologist that u *should* read logs
19:13.05arrrghhhcrap, i don't get certified until next week... :/
19:13.59CrazyEagle:D
19:14.02NeoMatrixJRu asked about BT.  I was going to update you on that I guess...
19:17.15arrrghhhplease
19:17.18arrrghhhi haven't seen anything from jb
19:17.31NeoMatrixJRAFAIK all the kernel stuff is now in the auto-build
19:17.31arrrghhh& his kernel code seems to have fubar'd sleep.
19:17.36arrrghhhit is
19:17.54NeoMatrixJRuserland changes were given to stinebd and awaiting an new build there.
19:18.01NeoMatrixJRI don't think the audio's done yet though
19:18.11arrrghhhi thought those were the userland changes
19:18.14arrrghhhdamn.
19:18.37NeoMatrixJRmaybe he missed something when he committed to the public kernel then.
19:18.50NeoMatrixJRI commented to him about broken sleep and I thought it got fixed...
19:19.01arrrghhhi haven't seen anything new on it
19:19.05NeoMatrixJRhmmm... I may have to build up another BT test card and try again.
19:19.21NeoMatrixJRit should have been fixed before his patches made it to the public kernel
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19:20.17arrrghhhhrm
19:20.21arrrghhhdoesn't seem like it :P
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19:21.03therealonehey all
19:21.09NeoMatrixJRI'll see if I can pull together the stuff he sent me and compile up a new kernel and see if I still have sleep issues compared to the BT card I've got set up now...maybe something broke again.
19:21.59arrrghhhNeoMatrixJR, do you have all of the userland stuffs too?
19:22.02therealoneI've been running Ubuntu on my HTC-HD2... now I want to take my changes with Debian... is there a way to compile my own kernel with the necessary drivers without having to download the git repo?
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19:23.38NeoMatrixJRmost of it.  I don't think I have the libraries right for audio so that may be why mine doesn't work.  I have enough to make BT work though.  Admittedly I think I need to modify something in my rootfs before I take another crack at it.  I think he fixed clocks for the BT's speed and I haven't updated that yet.
19:24.14arrrghhhah
19:24.24arrrghhhyea that was going to be my next question - does it work :P
19:25.59therealoneany ideas?
19:29.16NeoMatrixJRtherealone: so you already have modified source?
19:29.25therealoneno not really
19:29.54NeoMatrixJRdefine "take my changes with Debian"
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19:35.13therealonelol typo NeoMatrixJR
19:35.26therealoneI meant take my chances with Debian
19:35.39therealoneI know Ubuntu is Debian based but I prefere the real deal
19:35.55arrrghhhubuntu is now fake?? :P
19:36.38David_Whaaa?
19:36.43David_ubuntu is fake ?
19:36.47arrrghhhlol
19:37.21therealoneI didn't say that
19:38.01arrrghhhtherealone, i know i was jk.  your statement does perplex me tho, what do you mean by 'real deal'?
19:38.10arrrghhhis ubuntu not the 'real deal'?
19:39.29bioterrorarrrghhh, you dont get as much cool points if you say you use ubuntu than what you get when you say you use debian ;)
19:39.40arrrghhhmeh
19:39.44arrrghhhyou can keep your points :P
19:40.02therealoneI want to use debian
19:40.18therealoneUbuntu is distro based upon Debian
19:40.18arrrghhhso try it out
19:40.24arrrghhhyes, we know.
19:40.29bioterrorI have mainly used ubuntus on laptops and for a few months I have run debian in a virtual server
19:40.33therealonesince I'm using Debian since a couple of years... I prefere to only use debian
19:40.41bioterrorand I have to edit alot of stuff for the debian to make things work
19:40.57therealoneI don't have an averse to ubuntu I just prefere debian
19:40.58arrrghhhyea, i prefer ubuntu cuz i'm lazy.
19:41.11therealonethx for the compliment arrrghhh
19:41.14therealonelol
19:41.21arrrghhh?
19:41.32therealoneI like to install a base version of debian and install the rest from the ground up
19:41.36arrrghhhcuz i'm lazy you're therefore not because you prefer debian?  lol
19:41.49therealoneI'm just j/k sir
19:41.55arrrghhhyou obviously have a lot of time on your hands :P
19:42.07therealonenot really
19:42.15bioterrorI have arch on desktop and I have htpc mobo waiting for a case ;)
19:42.20bioterrormaybe arch for a htpc too
19:42.33arrrghhharch made my head hurt
19:42.34bioterrorI just dont like plymouth
19:42.39arrrghhhi hate plymouth
19:42.45bioterroryeah
19:42.47arrrghhhwhy the hell they put that on a server distro is beyond me.
19:43.05bioterrormostly it just shows black display
19:43.17bioterrorarrrghhh, becouse it makes ubuntu boot faster
19:43.28arrrghhhdowha?
19:43.33arrrghhhyou mean slower :P
19:43.37bioterrornope
19:43.41arrrghhhand i'm pretty sure i don't need it on my server.
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19:43.50therealoneanyway
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19:44.45arrrghhhtherealone, what's stopping you from trying it if it's so similar?
19:44.48therealonehow can I compile my own kernel for a armel without having to download git
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19:44.57David_Does anyone know why is Flash crashing on browser ?
19:45.00therealonebrb
19:45.01arrrghhhit requires a different kernel?
19:45.14arrrghhhDavid_, i don't think that's a kernel question :P
19:45.15arrrghhh-chat
19:45.25David_Okay :)
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19:54.44lorneHi, I have a question about touchscreen input on a xoom.
19:55.36lorneI'm trying to use an external touchscreen, but I'm running into an error, "Dropping unsupported motion even (unimplemented)..." in logcat
19:55.59lorneanyone familiar with this error?
19:56.36lorneI saw previous logs from htc channel where this error came up
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19:58.26arrrghhhexternal touchscreen.  on a xoom.
19:59.07lorneyeah, I want to run the HDMI output to a big touchscreen monitor
19:59.32arrrghhho
20:00.09lorneThe OTG recognizes the USB connection for the touch monitor and the logcat shows the device connect, but then the ViewRoot says all the motion events are dropped
20:01.06therealoneback
20:01.13therealoneso how can I compile my own kernel?
20:01.26arrrghhhit requires a different kernel?
20:01.28therealonewithout using a git repo
20:02.04therealonenot really perhaps I could try to install the armel version of debian to an image
20:02.15arrrghhhassuming you're running ubuntu
20:02.26arrrghhhi would think the kernel could be reused.
20:02.33therealoneokay so that be great
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20:02.44arrrghhhbut, you're also asking for outlandish things like how to compile a kernel without pulling the git repo :P
20:02.52therealonenvm the kernel
20:02.56therealoneI'll use the stock one then
20:03.06therealonedoes anyone have a clue on writing drivers for audio?
20:03.46arrrghhhlol do you have a question?
20:04.24therealoneright here's the deal... my phone runs with ubuntu... I removed gnome and replaced it with Enlightenment... runs like a charm...
20:04.47therealoneonly the onscreen keyboard is really annoying...
20:04.57therealoneand the fact that sound isn't working
20:05.11arrrghhhhrm
20:05.15arrrghhhi thought ubuntu worked on the hd2
20:05.21therealoneit does
20:05.24arrrghhhi don't really follow leo development.
20:05.28therealoneexcept that audio isn't working
20:05.37therealoneand I don't have clue on how to write audio drivers
20:05.38arrrghhhlol
20:05.43arrrghhhalsa doesn't work?
20:05.48arrrghhhor are they trying pulse ontop...
20:06.04therealonealsa driver still has to be written
20:07.05arrrghhhheh, so rhod is ahead of leo on ubuntu dev.
20:07.07arrrghhhironic
20:07.12therealoneyeah
20:07.33therealonewhen trying ubuntu on my htc diamond (with the rhod_dev stuff) audio and all worked
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20:08.35therealoneso I figured to give ubuntu a go on my leo
20:08.59therealoneonly to realize I'll need a 8gb card
20:09.04bioterroryep
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20:09.15bioterrorI have 2GB card and it's not enough at all ;)
20:09.51therealonei have 4
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20:10.37therealoneanywayz
20:11.00bioterrorI think I'll buy 8GB card atleast
20:11.29therealoneI'm gonna buy one friday or so
20:11.32bioterror8-16GB MicroSD is a good investment
20:11.42therealoneit is
20:12.03therealoneI might consider to buy a Motorola Atrix 4G when it comes available
20:12.03therealonehere in Holland
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20:12.49arrrghhhsd cards are cheap too
20:12.49therealoneis there an onscreen keyboard for the prompt for as far as anyone knows?
20:13.00therealone20 euro's for 8Gb here
20:13.04arrrghhhmy 8gb was $20 like 2 years ago, and it came with a usb-to-mSD and a mSD to s
20:13.07arrrghhhSD converter
20:13.11dan1j3lhi
20:13.18therealonehi dan1j3l
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20:14.20therealonebut is there an onscreen keyboard for when you don't a have gui?
20:14.48arrrghhhphysical kbd ftw.
20:15.31therealonehow to attach such a thing to a micro-usb?
20:15.45arrrghhhsimple, my phone has it built in :P
20:16.45therealonemy doesn't...
20:16.55therealone:-(
20:17.31lornesorry to interrupt. Any ideas on my touchscreen item?
20:17.51therealonewot about it lorne ?
20:18.02arrrghhhlorne, you do realize this room (mainly) is for porting android to winmo phones right?
20:18.13therealoneor any linux distro
20:18.17arrrghhhi would think #android would be a more appropriate room lorne
20:18.24arrrghhhtherealone, i said mainly.
20:18.38therealoneI know arrrghhh
20:18.39arrrghhhplus, we also help people with non-htc devices even tho it's htc-linux.
20:18.42lorneyeah, I understand that.  I was just hoping that if someone had seen this before that they could point me in the right direction
20:19.04lornedo you have another channel to suggest for this type of discussion?
20:19.09arrrghhh#android
20:19.44CrazyEagle"Diordna" rotated "Android" do u know?
20:19.53arrrghhhlol ok
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20:20.03CrazyEaglelol sounds  better than android
20:20.24therealoneCrazyEagle... rotated it would be "diordnA
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20:21.08lorneok, thanks
20:21.59CrazyEaglesp swapped?
20:22.08therealonearrrghhh: would it be possible to port androids software keyboard to ubuntu?
20:22.19arrrghhhmaybe
20:22.30arrrghhhno clue how one would go about doing it tho :P
20:22.45therealonelol probably getting to source and try to compile it?
20:22.58therealoneI compiled the window manager Enlightenment on my phone
20:23.23therealoneit probably be easier to port X to android...
20:23.33knightrockerhey guys ... kinda new here ... any of u kno knightrocker from neopeek.com ??
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20:23.56arrrghhhknightrocker, i'm assuming you are him?  any reason why we should know you?
20:24.11knightrockernot really ...
20:24.18knightrocker:P
20:24.32therealoneknightrocker you're a wanna be knightrocker?
20:24.58knightrockerno ... the real one ... global mod/admin ...
20:25.10therealoneah kk
20:25.13arrrghhhknightrocker, what's up?  you sound like donald trump.
20:25.16arrrghhh'surely you've heard of me'
20:25.18arrrghhh:p
20:25.31therealonewho hasn't heard of arrrghhh
20:25.35knightrockerlol ... yea i have bro
20:25.38knightrockerlol
20:25.43arrrghhhi'm famous bitches
20:25.44knightrockermy mom ...
20:25.45therealonewe hear it everyday
20:25.51CrazyEaglebut we need check if he real one
20:26.02CrazyEagle:D
20:26.03knightrockerwho me ??
20:26.05therealonethere's only one me
20:26.08arrrghhhCrazyEagle, this coming from someone who changed their handle to CrazyEagle
20:26.10CrazyEagleyes
20:26.11therealoneso I'm the real one
20:26.24CrazyEaglearrrghhh, tsss ^^
20:26.28arrrghhh:D
20:26.32knightrockerlol
20:26.45therealoneCrazyEagle... don't give him the crazy eye
20:27.17arrrghhhfisheye
20:27.21knightrockerany news on NAND for the DIAM ??
20:27.30arrrghhhmy gf gives the stink eye
20:27.30therealone1 or 2?
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20:27.50therealone@ arrrghhh okies...
20:27.51CrazyEagle0 or 1 more right
20:27.54knightrockerhey cherry
20:27.59Nautis-chat! :)
20:28.00CrazyEagleu still count from one? pffff :D
20:28.03therealonedunno haven't tried nand yet
20:28.09Midnightdon't spam here too coco
20:28.12arrrghhhNautis, lol
20:28.12CrazyEagletrue coders count from zero
20:28.27therealonetrue coders only know how to count to one
20:28.35therealonezero - one
20:28.38knightrockershut up cherry ... im tryin to make friends here ...
20:28.45CrazyEagleno, they can count up to 2^32
20:28.48knightrockerzero:D
20:28.54arrrghhhwhy is the neopeek forums invading our channel?
20:28.55CrazyEagleif their brain 32 bit
20:29.09therealone64^64
20:29.13Midnightcoders are 32 bit only?
20:29.27CrazyEagledunno, but I feel my brain is 32 bit only
20:29.35knightrockerhey ... we just wanna coperate ... we all are android dudes rigth ??
20:29.40Midnighti guess that some of you are 128 bit..
20:29.41CrazyEagleapt 64^64
20:29.44therealonelinux rocks alright
20:29.51CrazyEagleapt die
20:29.51aptACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
20:29.53arrrghhhknightrocker, just curious.
20:29.53knightrockerim a 16 ...
20:30.07therealoneI'm a bit older
20:30.11knightrockerwhat ??
20:30.14therealone28
20:30.19arrrghhhneopeek's forum does seem like it's full of children, but i don't really care so long as they're respectful.
20:30.21CrazyEagle....how many pages of assembler code did u wrote during ur life? just curious...
20:30.30arrrghhh17
20:30.34arrrghhhpages
20:30.37CrazyEagle:D
20:30.37therealoneme?
20:30.39knightrocker0:D
20:30.46CrazyEaglelol
20:30.46therealoneI wrote several in QuickBasic
20:31.05CrazyEagleassembler code inside QB? ooohh
20:31.06Midnight@arghhh we made tiad8 permbanned
20:31.13therealoneyeah
20:31.21therealoneI'm actually the guy who's writing a Linux-clone in QB
20:31.28therealoneperhaps you've heard of QBinux
20:31.30CrazyEaglehaha
20:31.30arrrghhh...
20:31.35knightrockerlol ...
20:31.40therealonejust for the kick
20:31.50CrazyEaglehow far it goes?
20:32.05knightrockeris it just me or is tiad going crazy these days ??
20:32.49therealoneI actually once wrote win3.x in ASCII, win98 until MS released... which happend also with win2k... then I wrote a MacOS desktop which was never finished... its up on some site...
20:33.07therealonethen I met Linux and was sold
20:33.21knightrockerlol
20:33.48CrazyEagleepic story
20:33.56therealonethat's only half of it
20:34.05CrazyEagleohh
20:34.10knightrockerthats for sure ...
20:34.11CrazyEagledon't make me cry :
20:34.12therealonethe rest I'm not gonna tell
20:34.13CrazyEagle:'(
20:34.24knightrockerwe don want the rest bro ...
20:34.30therealonetherefor
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20:34.47therealonehas anyone experience with audio dev?
20:34.47knightrockersave it for when i grow older abd have kids ...
20:34.49therealoneon alsa?
20:34.57therealoneI have 2 kids
20:35.17CrazyEagleand?
20:35.19knightrockeri AM a kid ...
20:35.54therealonebut does anyone have experience with developing drivers for alsa?
20:35.54CrazyEagleit's ur time to tell us story, knightrocker
20:36.01CrazyEaglemaybe me?
20:36.01CrazyEagle:D
20:36.09CrazyEaglewhich platform?
20:36.16therealoneubuntu
20:36.20[acl]dang some heavy log spamming going on
20:36.24CrazyEaglemean cpu/chip and etc
20:36.38CrazyEagle[acl], u are welcome, join us ultimate-trolls-club now
20:36.50[acl]i wish.. alot of work today .. cant chat
20:36.56[acl]just like to stick my head in here
20:37.03[acl]see if there is anything nice going on
20:37.07CrazyEagleohh
20:37.38knightrockerstory ?? i get my exam results tomorrow ... ill tell u what my teacher tells my mom ... now THATS a story ...:P
20:37.55CrazyEagleohh shit. understand u well :P
20:38.15therealoneerm... lemme see 1GHz Snapdragon™ processor
20:38.17knightrockerlol:P
20:38.22CrazyEaglewhich device
20:38.23CrazyEagleokay
20:38.23CrazyEagle?
20:38.27therealoneHTC HD@
20:38.30therealone*HD2
20:38.35CrazyEaglelol?
20:38.41therealoneHTC LEO
20:38.47CrazyEaglelol
20:38.47CrazyEagle:D
20:38.52therealonewot about it?
20:39.03knightrocker:D
20:39.07CrazyEagle:d
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20:39.20CrazyEagleit's that I wanted to do lol
20:39.35CrazyEaglebut ok
20:39.39CrazyEagledo u have experience?
20:39.42knightrockerlol
20:39.45therealoneno that's the problem
20:40.02knightrockermake a tutorial ... 15 ways to FRY ur leo ...:D
20:40.20therealoneI don't want to fry it
20:40.27CrazyEagleI mean experience in ALSA development, not Elf with 80 level
20:40.45knightrockerif u say so ...
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20:40.52therealoneI don't have any experience in ALSA development
20:40.54CrazyEaglefor 15 ways u need 15 leos
20:41.03CrazyEagleknightrocker, give us them
20:41.03therealonelol
20:41.09knightrockernot really
20:41.12CrazyEaglebut I have only 2
20:41.21knightrockerthats what u have testers for ...
20:41.25therealoneI only have one which is my only phone
20:41.26knightrocker:D
20:41.32CrazyEagleokay
20:41.36therealoneso you buy us 15 to test on
20:42.03knightrockeror i cn find u 15 people ...
20:42.10knightrockerwho have em
20:42.26CrazyEaglebut u need trust them
20:42.42knightrockerok ... ot ... sorry guys ...
20:42.47knightrocker:P
20:43.31CrazyEagleso
20:43.33therealoneright
20:43.33CrazyEaglewe fail?
20:43.46knightrockerlol
20:43.53CrazyEagle:'(
20:44.41knightrockerhey ... thats my face for tomorrow ...
20:44.46knightrocker:P
20:45.03therealonewell guys I'm off
20:45.04therealonettyl
20:45.07CrazyEaglenot  :o
20:45.09CrazyEagle?
20:45.17knightrockercya bro
20:45.56knightrockerdo you want me to go to?? if im buggin or something ...
20:46.08CrazyEagleno
20:46.17knightrockercool
20:46.28knightrockerwhere are u from ??
20:46.57arrrghhhknightrocker, he's a ruskie, but remember - this room is for kernel development.
20:46.58arrrghhhnot chat.
20:47.35CrazyEagleme?
20:47.36knightrockeroooo that why every1 is so stoned ... wrong room ... srry .. where is the chat room ??
20:47.37CrazyEagleI am from moon
20:47.44knightrockeryea
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20:47.47knightrockeri see
20:48.01knightrockerreally ??
20:48.05CrazyEagleya
20:48.28knightrockerno1 there ...:P
20:48.33CrazyEagleme?
20:49.07knightrockerk then ... cya guys ... ttul ...
20:49.16CrazyEaglef XTRA
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20:50.39arrrghhhCrazyEagle, lol
20:50.44arrrghhhyou must disasm :D
20:52.29CrazyEagleI am bird, how can I disasm?
20:52.39arrrghhhvery carefully.
20:53.13CrazyEagleshit next time I should use other IP
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21:13.45killesdcordes: /wi3
21:13.49killesdcordes: sorry
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22:48.10parmasterfinally posted on xda regarding the BCM4329 chipset in a way that i hope everyone can completely understand
22:48.30parmasterjust to give everyone some closure cuz it was gettin kind of let down sad to a lot of people
22:48.46parmasterhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12332689&postcount=19
22:50.04parmasterguess people didn't understand my previous post so.. hope this is clearer
22:50.44parmasterto sum it up, they imsaculated the ability to do it on the chip itself.
22:50.49parmastererr imasculated
22:57.56poinkparmaster: Is that fixable if we had a suitable blob to upload?
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22:58.29parmasteri'm not aware that the chip is flashable
22:58.52parmasterthe commands are sent through the ARM7
23:00.16parmasterpoink: are you aware of a BCM4329 on any device where its been possible?
23:00.34poinkparmaster: heh, no.
23:00.42parmasterthats what i thought
23:01.07parmasterits apparently broadcoms default opinion on providing that functionality
23:01.37poinkparmaster: I'd be surprised if it wasn't flashable (because it'd make fixing critical functionality bugs really expensive).
23:02.04parmasterthey control it, nothing we can do unless its possible to reprogram it
23:02.49parmastereven then, as you said.. we don't have a working example
23:03.40poinkparmaster: I suspect it's actually easier to fit a new WiFi radio, even in the case of a phone.
23:04.04parmasterpossibly from a router or something would by my best guess for getting working code
23:06.04parmasterpoink: re: new wifi radio.. i guess so if you can have usb host mode it may be possible
23:08.50parmasterneed to catch up on some sleep.. catch u l8rzz
23:09.00poinkA quick google seems to lead to the bcm4329 module on the Leo/HD2 accepting a firmware argument.
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23:12.29parmasterpoink: has nothing to do with it, that firmware isn't what you need to modify
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23:48.04parmasterits how the broadcom works... that firmware simply sends the requests to the ARM7
23:48.13parmasterits a kind of system on a chip setup
23:48.40parmasterand they are no dummies.. they are keeping their proprietary control doing it that way.
23:50.04parmasterthey've killed the ability by default in all cellphones it seems
23:50.07parmasterthis includes the iphone
23:51.11parmasteri talked about this 6 months ago and people are still talking as they are hopeful
23:51.41parmasterjust want them to have some closure and also not have devs be tricked into going down the path of trying to get it to work
23:51.50parmasteronly sorrow and misery is down that path.
23:52.04arrrghhhlol
23:52.12parmasterof course, always check for it in new devices that come out
23:52.23parmasterarrrghhh:  ;-)
23:52.50arrrghhhpath of sorrow and misery... sounds like our GPS lib :P
23:53.04parmasterhehehe
23:53.14parmasteris that rpc calls?
23:53.46arrrghhhi believe so
23:53.48parmasterwindows style?
23:53.49arrrghhhbut we're missing lots of stuff
23:53.59arrrghhhXTRA, injection, etc.
23:54.04parmasterah yeah, i remember when that came up too
23:54.29parmasterpeople started working on that when dzo put out some of the first kernels
23:55.24parmasterall legacy nightmares that won't go away
23:55.25arrrghhhi don't think it works on any of the ports...?
23:56.04parmasteri don't know.. vogue has the ones the folks did for it.. which is amazing in my opinion
23:57.40arrrghhhso XTRA works for vogue?
23:58.35parmasteryou could ask srwalter
23:59.04parmaster.GPS: srwalter's reverse engineering the windows RPC calls/implementing it
23:59.12parmasterhe's credited with it
23:59.45arrrghhhyea, that's what needs to be done
23:59.48arrrghhhRE the windows calls...
23:59.53parmasterare you making a generic lib for all htc?

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