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06:19.18eeehi
06:20.00eeei updated to FRX05
06:20.10eeebut there are no dev tools
06:20.15eeei need the terminal
06:20.23eeehow do i access this?
06:20.30eeeor is there some other way?
06:33.30eee....
06:33.48bioterrortake it easy
06:33.57bioterroridle for a while, someone will surely answer to you
06:35.12[acl]no one on the xdandroid channel to help?
06:37.05eeedoes any1 know a workround around the terminal emulator?
06:37.34[acl]eee: no one in the xdandroid channel to help ?
06:38.19[acl]:-p
06:38.22bioterrorhaha
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10:10.35dcordeshi
10:14.41dcordes~seen tre9
10:14.50apttre9 <d0360444@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.54.4.68> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 1d 19h 3m 26s ago, saying: 'http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo#Cosmetics'.
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12:13.06killesIs anybody here working on USB related stuff?
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13:46.45dcordeskilles: it would be better to be more specific. what USB related stuff do you mean ?
13:51.02killesdcordes: I am interested in getting USB OTG into the Dell Streak on Froyo. I realize nobody is specifically working on that, hence I am trying to find people who have done this for other devices.
13:51.35killesthe Streak used to have OTG in Eclair, but the driver got removed from later kernels
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13:53.09dcordeskilles: it is a kernel level question
13:53.23dcordes[[Streak]]
13:53.23unilinkyhttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Streak
13:54.27killesdcordes: yeah, I already looked there.
13:56.18dcordesdid you try to apply the sven killig patch to your kernel ?
13:57.11killesdcordes: no, it hadn't occurred to me that this might work
13:57.15dcordesyou can look it up in the changelog of htc-msm-2.6.32 kernel for [[Leo]]
13:57.15unilinkyhttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo
13:57.53dcordesyou should try then
13:58.05dcordesg2g bye
13:58.42killeshttp://sven.killig.de/meego/leviathan-incoming-ga604b47.patch <== that is the patch?
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14:02.30killesif that was it, it wasn't a big success...
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14:17.24[acl]where cotulla at ?
14:19.16emwe[acl]: back to leo? ;)
14:19.46[acl]lol
14:19.49[acl]nahh i wanted to thank him
14:20.19emwea9 ready stuff?
14:20.27[acl]nahh the boot reason stuff
14:20.36emwei see.
14:20.38[acl]found it in the globs like he sid
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14:20.40[acl]*said
14:21.00[acl]dumped some glob vals and had to reverse the dll to get the constants but its all there
14:21.25[acl]the a9 stuff is just a hax i think.. just making sure dex is ready before we bulldoze through
14:21.58emwei think that dex ready stuff is what i posted to you a while ago from the androidhtc project.
14:22.15[acl]i lost that link.. couldnt find it
14:22.21[acl]so this is my only hax for now
14:22.29emweand i just figured battery-smem in conjunction with power collapse on .35 just get's me freezing.
14:22.47emwenow i disabled battery smem again and i am still fine.
14:22.54emwe(freeze when adb connected only.)
14:23.17[acl]hmm
14:23.42emweif i unplug early enough, the device keeps going until battery is empty. but if i leave adb connected, i am just fine.
14:23.51emwebah..
14:23.58emweif i leave adb on, it freezes within minutes
14:24.04[acl]weird behavior
14:24.50emweperhaps it's all those locks jonpry mentioned - which he cleaned up.
14:25.02emwelooking at his scbs patch now
14:27.59[acl]i slept 2 hours last night.. i think im going to die today
14:29.53emwegirls?
14:30.01emweread you mention the other day :P
14:30.05[acl]lol
14:30.13[acl]nah ur gonna laugh and prob think im gay
14:30.23[acl]i canceled my date sat night to do some kernel work
14:30.30[acl]but i did go on my date fri nite
14:30.34[acl]so only half gay
14:30.42emweomg
14:31.16emweok. now frozen after 723 secs without batt smem. damnit.
14:31.41[acl]have u figuired out how we can make money yet? so i can quit and do this full time ?
14:31.45[acl]:-\
14:32.31emwehold back patches?
14:32.39[acl]lol
14:33.05[acl]i dunno how lucrative that will be
14:36.15[acl]i asked my google frinds for a job.. bastards dont wanna help
14:53.58MassStashso can we charge in recovery yet?
14:54.11MassStashcuz i think that should be the temp solution for battery loop....
14:54.35[acl]MassStash: if code wrote itself, that would be the ideal solution
14:54.38[acl]lol
14:54.40[acl]but yeah bro.. thats next
14:54.49MassStash(still letting phone charge out of anger after having to wipe phone without back up from forgetting to charge last night so i fukin task29ed it to get it to charge
14:55.00MassStash::breath::
14:55.04[acl]lol
14:55.11[acl]so even with new kernel u have the issue?
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14:55.18MassStashand btw task29ing ev-er-ree-thang
14:55.21[acl]impossible i tested it like 100 times
14:55.24MassStashev-er-ree-thang?
14:55.32MassStashev-er-reey-thang
14:55.36MassStashlets it charge
14:55.44MassStashsooooo hows that going on with no winmo?
14:55.50[acl]same way
14:55.56[acl]execpt winmo monitors the temp and charge
14:56.00MassStashwhish new?>
14:56.01[acl]and waits for u to press the power button
14:56.03[acl]nahh always
14:56.05[acl]i didnt know that
14:56.16[acl]had to find out the hard way from cotulla
14:56.21MassStashi git pulled n rolled my own yesterday for the first time
14:56.32[acl]looked at the kernel and he was right.. damn thing handles it all
14:57.05MassStashthe handles all the chargeing??
14:57.34[acl]yea
14:57.52[acl]so this part will never make it to haret code.. they dont need it .lol
14:59.03MassStashharet need not exist in my opion
14:59.11MassStashis all efforts where simply shifted.....
14:59.19MassStashpick up where left off of course
14:59.24rpierce99have you guys seen what neopeek posted over on his forum?
14:59.30MassStashnew?
14:59.37rpierce99CM7 alpha build
14:59.38[acl]nahh
14:59.45MassStashor the crwazy one he first dropped?
15:00.10rpierce99www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6495
15:00.22MassStashsoooooo, can we charge in recovery brudda? n usb storage was not working.....?
15:00.44[acl]MassStash: its not ?
15:00.47[acl]fawk really
15:00.49rpierce99oh n/m
15:00.58rpierce99someone said that was a nand build but it's not
15:01.16[acl]rpierce99: he did compile it for rhod already
15:01.20[acl]just that there is so much to do
15:01.49rpierce99yeah he was having some problems with the bcm stuff, i didn't know how to help him, he stopped by #xdandroid
15:02.12MassStashusb supposed to work along with chargeing already?
15:02.14[acl]bcm ? ahh he has much bigger issue that that
15:02.20MassStashwhat was the recovery update taday?
15:02.26[acl]MassStash: last night
15:02.33MassStashn androidinstall?
15:02.34rpierce99maybe he was asking that ? for haret then
15:02.35[acl]but nahh no charging in recovery yet
15:02.38MassStash21st date right?
15:02.45[acl]yup
15:03.23[acl]rpierce99: i ran cm6, but that was a complete piece of shit
15:03.28[acl]so bad i erased all my work
15:03.42[acl]the laucher was ugly
15:03.46[acl]hideous
15:04.00[acl]but cm7 looked primising ..
15:04.14rpierce99never used CM myself, don't really care either way, just thought it was cool when I thought he had made some progress, but it doesn't seem like he has
15:04.20[acl]but i cant concentrate on that now ..
15:04.24[acl]kernel needs some help
15:04.26[acl]so much more to do now
15:04.32[acl]specially after that whole charing bullshit
15:04.43[acl]plus we still dont have multiple kernel support.
15:05.07[acl]and lets not forget about em gsm folk
15:05.10[acl]poor bastards
15:07.02jonpry[acl], trying to work for goog?
15:07.16[acl]jonpry: only wya i can think of that i can make money and do this
15:07.17[acl]lol
15:07.27[acl]right now.. im fried bro.. just a matter of time before i melt
15:07.34jonpryi used to do topcoder competitions
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15:07.45jonprysupposedly they give offers to top 100
15:07.56[acl]sadly i have frineds there
15:07.58[acl]but they all userland
15:08.05[acl]ad mob bastards
15:08.06[acl]lol
15:08.18[acl]turns out kernel team is small .. and in the main campus only
15:08.21[acl]not in the nyc office
15:08.30[acl]im hoping they will let me work remotely :-p
15:09.14jonprypost in android kernel ml?
15:10.03jonpryalready working, waiting for paycheck
15:10.38[acl]nahh didnt post no where
15:11.15[acl]anyways . good thing im damn good at my job or else id be on the streets now. with the amount of chatting i do at work
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15:17.16[acl]wow that whole fight between arrggg and tiad caused some restructuring on ppcg
15:17.25[acl]talk about clash of the titans there.
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15:50.22Alex[sp3dev]hey fellas
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15:53.51Alex[sp3dev][acl]: yo
15:54.04[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: sup dood.. how are the exams going
15:54.44Alex[sp3dev][acl]: going. three most difficult ones are ahead.
15:55.22[acl]ahh i miss those days :-p
15:55.55Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i have played with the panel and overclock (turbo) yesterday. when i change only panel regs (divider and TE register), my fps2d rises from 27 to 35. when i've overclocked it (192 -> 207 MHz), i got 49 in fps2d.. also, when overclocking pll from 768 to 960, my neocore went from 16.5 to 21.5
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15:56.34[acl]Alex[sp3dev]:woa..
15:57.00Cotullahi
15:57.02[acl]i guess i can try the same on the rhod
15:57.05Alex[sp3dev]yeah. with that overclock and 49 fps2d it feels damn smooth
15:57.15Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: wazzup!
15:57.17[acl]Cotulla: sup my good man.. thanks for the battery advice.. found the values on the glob
15:57.50Cotullanothing
15:58.19Alex[sp3dev][acl]: not sure you can do that on rhod. it's already running it's pll at 960 mhz. btw, the gpu seems picky. it doesn't seed to obey grp ns register and the only way to overclock is to overclock the pll..
15:58.56[acl]Alex[sp3dev]; well rhod has a way but we cant change it yet. The panel itself has a way to change the vsync rate.. but i havent had lukc yet. horse shit i tell you but its good for you i guess..
15:59.05[acl]Alex[sp3dev]; so raph and diam can work the same right ?
15:59.22Cotullaanyway they will be fucking slow compared with LEO :)
15:59.55[acl]Cotulla: damn you man.. why u taking cheap shots.its like comparing a ferrari to like a honda
15:59.59[acl]:-p
16:00.29Alex[sp3dev][acl]: they've been doing turbo for ages. it's just yesterday i've got the idea to change panel to another pll so that the image is not corrupted when the main pll is overclocked
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16:01.05[acl]oo
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16:05.39[acl]Cotulla: wanna help me figure out what to do now that i can tell if we are booting in charge mode ? :-)
16:06.05Alex[sp3dev][acl]: write the bootloader
16:06.49Alex[sp3dev][acl]: basically, check until voltage is above the minimum value, then set the boot flag to normal boot and reboot
16:07.02[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: you just want me to work on lk
16:07.03[acl]:-p
16:07.37[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: but for now im doing that but with the regular kernel. however i cant poll for button presses yet.. not sure how to go about doing htat
16:07.41[acl]so if someone pressed the power button
16:08.01Alex[sp3dev][acl]: no, it's just i have no time for that. i need to do some DSP stuff for my courcework. so other things are not as important now
16:08.12[acl]ic
16:08.25Alex[sp3dev]damn, i'm mistyping everything today
16:09.40Cotullano I don't want
16:10.06[acl]Cotulla: lol.. fine fine..
16:10.23Cotullapeople stop appreciate help, when u help them a lot...
16:10.32[acl]i thank you all the time
16:10.38[acl]how the hell can you even say that to me
16:10.40Alex[sp3dev]yeah. teach man to fish, don't give him fish
16:10.49[acl]lol
16:11.08Cotullamy goals not to teach somebody
16:11.30Alex[sp3dev]everyone's goal is fun and self-education..
16:11.31[acl]but you dont teach you just say "ohh check globals "
16:11.35[acl]lol
16:11.42[acl]its like inception
16:11.45[acl]you plant the idea
16:11.47[acl]and bam
16:11.52[acl]code comes out
16:12.14Cotullaheh
16:12.47Cotullaor maybe dirty code as well
16:12.50[acl]so instead of cotulla you should call urself cobb
16:13.03Cotullabcz u didn't spend enough ur time for researching
16:13.03[acl]just plant ideas all day log
16:13.17[acl]Cotulla: cuz i have a full time job.. u know how hard it is
16:13.24Cotullaya
16:13.32Cotullabut nobody tell u implement it now
16:13.34[acl]plus i never used winmo.. :-( .. i wiped that shit i soon as i got it
16:13.44[acl]i guess that was bad of me
16:13.48[acl]not to appreciate winmo
16:13.59[acl]well not flash but you know.. just haret poop
16:14.06Cotullaur world is down, android is shit, wm isn't...
16:14.45[acl]damn.. so today ur wearing your "i love wm" shirt huh :-)
16:14.52[acl]cant mess with wm today then
16:15.00CotullaI always loved it...
16:15.05Cotullabecause it's great thing
16:15.08Cotullanot like android
16:15.08[acl]but do you always wear the shirt
16:15.12[acl]lol
16:15.22Alex[sp3dev]yes, but 6.5.5 was two steps backwards
16:15.26Cotullawhich?
16:15.52Cotullait mostly ur dreams and people opinions zombing. like Vista is slow and etc..
16:16.00[acl]Cotulla: i guess i blame my carrier here in the US. they never gave me 6.5 until i moved away from it.. it was just classic big company bullshit
16:16.21Cotulla6.1 was also good
16:16.37Alex[sp3dev]bad ui (volume control.. tab control background when using 'classic themes' and other bugs in some builds). stupid semi-transparent pngs which are slow to render.. well. actually wm6.1 was perfect..
16:16.54[acl]Cotulla: nahh.. it was bad.. i couldnt do my job .. they actually gave me a BB until i got a new phone
16:17.03Cotullaand? it's small problems, which probably visible only for u
16:17.22Cotullaas well u are using non-official stuffs, official devices may have not this problems
16:17.25Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: well, i'm just saying 6.5.5 is worse than 6.5
16:17.29Cotullaas well, android as well have such bugs
16:17.54Cotullaor such thing "which are uncomfortable for some people"
16:18.09Alex[sp3dev]android has.. a cool ui and a lot of cool apps, but.. very buggy insides and awful documentation...
16:18.22Cotullacool ui?
16:18.27Alex[sp3dev]yeah
16:18.30Cotullawtf
16:18.43Cotullahtc android have too many colors... looks like samsung shit
16:18.50Cotullapure android have boring colors and etc
16:19.01Cotullaas well hardware back/menu buttons irritates
16:19.27Cotullaapplications have user interface without proper logic
16:19.28[acl]Cotulla: i blame sprint
16:19.30[acl]lol
16:19.31Alex[sp3dev]htc themes look like shit. very 99-ish.. and stock android.. well, gingerbread looks cool.. all the rest are.. hm.. childish? those round buttons and whiteness
16:19.32Cotullalike some button
16:19.34[acl]they fed my hatred
16:19.41Cotullawith some shitty picture and with NO label
16:19.48Cotullawtf is it playlist or something else
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16:19.59Cotullau press it and u found that it's settings
16:20.00Cotullaand etc
16:21.08Alex[sp3dev]anyway. there's not much alternative. wp7 is not yet there.. not many devices, not much software.. meego is dead. maemo is dead (but n900 was very good..).  symbian has always sucked.. iphone is too boring.. right?
16:21.31[acl]Cotulla: hate sprint with me.. for feeding my hatred :-p
16:21.45Cotullayeah, but maybe one of this os are better than android
16:21.51Cotullawhat is sprint?
16:21.52CotullaMO?
16:21.59[acl]Cotulla: its my carrier here in the US.
16:22.23[acl]Cotulla: they took forever to release 6.5 for tp2
16:22.43Cotullait's normal
16:22.51Cotullaandroid devices got updates for while as well
16:23.03bioterrorAlex[sp3dev], why is Maemo dead? any facts about it
16:23.03Cotullano central updates
16:23.17Alex[sp3dev]bioterror: because there are no new devices.
16:23.17bioterrorsorry, MeeGo I ment
16:23.28Cotullabecause it's clear now
16:23.31Cotullawhen nokia leave it
16:23.58bioterrorthat's bs
16:23.58LordDeathdo we have 2.6.32 kernels on our HD2 because the original desire has it too?
16:24.08Cotullaas well tried to port it - at least open source part was f* buggy
16:24.13Cotullaand I abandon it
16:24.23Cotullaas well who need meego
16:24.31CotullaLordDeath, one of reasons
16:24.39bioterrorI'm waiting for a MeeGo device
16:24.48Alex[sp3dev]anyway. i think the best way out is to get a tablet and make it running ubuntu.. or port SHR and fully reverse-engineer camera and stuff
16:24.55bioterrorhanging with Xperia X1 'till I get MeeGo with qwerty in my hands
16:25.08[acl]now thats loyalty
16:25.13Cotullaand u think u really need it?
16:25.24Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: me?
16:25.33Cotullato bioterror, I am seriously
16:25.55bioterrorI assume i get a machine with better cpu, so yes I might need it
16:26.02Cotullaand what u will do with ti?
16:26.19bioterrorrun MOC :---)
16:26.35Cotullawhat is MOC?
16:26.39bioterrorMusic on Console
16:26.54Cotullaand wtf u need it
16:27.04Cotullasmall text on small display
16:27.06Cotullawtf
16:27.16Cotullakeyboard with extra symbols like [] () {}
16:27.21[acl]Cotulla: damn did u not have ur bad milk today.? ur really pissy
16:27.27Cotullame?
16:27.30bioterrorhttp://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2
16:27.30[acl]yeah
16:27.34Cotullajust take u from dreams back
16:27.37[acl]Cotulla: usually ur happy go lucky cotulla
16:27.48[acl]now ur i love winmo to death cotulla..
16:28.00Cotulladevice with phone kbd and small 4.0' screen is unusable with desktop software
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16:28.19bioterror4.0" is huge :D
16:28.28bioterrorlots of guys at work has E7
16:28.37Cotullaso it need special applications --> they won't present for meego at start
16:28.51Cotullaand wtf we need other mobile OS clone
16:29.22Cotullait make problems for development as well
16:29.36Cotullau need port ur application to every platform and each platform have different rules
16:29.45LordDeathCotulla: could be the desire kernel in cyanogenmod interesting for us?
16:30.15[acl]damn see now what u did
16:30.17[acl]made alex leave
16:30.19CotullaI don't know. but who cares about different kernel... real coding work can only change something :)
16:30.20[acl]:-p
16:30.53CotullaI means: only if somebody will spend skills and hobby time on coding, something will be different
16:31.04Cotullanew kernel won't fix anything
16:31.38Cotullaoh well maybe 2% of speed
16:31.41Cotullau need it?
16:31.43Cotulla;)
16:32.09LordDeathnearly every day we read stories about the miracle kernels ^^
16:32.29CotullaI guess so
16:32.42Cotullapeople like to change numbers and declare like |something new|
16:33.19odzthe vogue guys got a nice bump going from .27 to .32
16:34.10Cotullawhich bump?
16:34.24Cotullamaybe they just clear up all debugging shit  ;)
16:34.38odzhas a vouge and has witnessed this first hand
16:34.53Cotullausually during debugging u make a lot of test code inside which u rare remove
16:35.00bioterrorthere was also rumors that ZTE might be interested in MeeGo
16:35.03odzspeed, stability, bat life
16:35.05bioterrorthat would not be a bad thing
16:35.15Cotullabioterror, why they need use it?
16:35.36Cotullabetter for them use android... because maybe nobody will buy devices with new unknown os
16:35.38bioterrorCotulla, good alternate for android?
16:35.41Cotullawithout clear future?
16:35.49Cotullarisk
16:36.13Cotullabut ok
16:36.18Cotullatime will show truth
16:36.27bioterrormy big brother has N900 with Maemo
16:36.37bioterrorand he's no good with computers
16:36.45Cotulla)
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16:39.11bioterrorwhy anyone should buy android phone, when they have used Series 40 for ages
16:39.58Cotullano
16:40.01Cotullathey should not
16:40.32Cotullabut I don't see how meego better than android
16:40.41Cotullaboth need a lot of resources
16:41.04bioterrorI bet MeeGo is not going to run mainly java applications ;)
16:41.27Cotullaand?
16:41.38Cotullameego with native code more slow than JVM android based system
16:41.46bioterrorany facts about that
16:42.03CotullaI tried meego on my LEO
16:42.32MN--it sucked lol
16:42.40CotullaI had 4 FPS in settings menu with 2D only acceleration. Android had much more with 2D.
16:42.46CotullaMN, right
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16:43.08Cotullaas well it's mobile devices, not desktop clone. no need to waste resources on heavy desktop components
16:43.12Cotullalike X11
16:43.14Cotullaand etc
16:43.26MN--android is nice anyway
16:43.40MN--webos seems interesting but drivers are close source correct?
16:45.31Cotullaopen / closed sources it's not so important anyway
16:45.51Cotullawhere danj13 stopped? :P
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16:50.51MN--Cotulla: he was working on it?
16:50.51Cotullahm
16:50.57Cotullahe tell something\
16:51.01MN--meh
16:51.02Cotullafew weeks ago
16:51.47MN--oh cool
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17:15.42MassStash[acl], latest shtuff and my sdcard is unavailable?
17:15.43MassStashlol
17:16.00MassStashwell how'd it get installed to the phone then android....
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17:17.50[acl]MassStash: hmm let mec heck something out brb
17:19.43MassStashalso, what's with the ls not bringing shit up alphabetized?
17:20.03[acl]MassStash: i dunno i didnt write ls
17:20.04[acl]lol
17:20.09MassStashis that easily setable or something
17:20.14MassStashlol
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17:20.24MassStashwell it never happened before recent full nand
17:20.44[acl]MassStash: check ppcgf
17:20.58MassStashfor which?
17:21.06[acl]ppcg
17:21.14[acl]ur post i gotta go now for lunch but i wrote it there
17:21.15[acl]brb
17:21.57MassStashk
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18:13.57MassStash[acl], so you want me to flash your shit now?
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18:14.19MassStashall i change was keymapping bro...
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18:23.02MassStashi be flash yours to mkae sure its not my shit fukin up
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18:59.43machicheHi, i'm Lucas from Venezuela, i'm starting to develop Android for the HTC Whitestone
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19:02.27machichei think i must use the MSM7xxx kernel, any clue or idea where to start?
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19:03.39MN--try looking at the htc-linux site
19:06.56MN--doesnt the rhod have the msm7600 same as whitestone?
19:07.29rpierce99rhod is 7600A
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19:08.23rpierce99er 7200A
19:08.43MN--ah the droid eris has th msm7600 so it could be similar to the whitestone
19:11.32machicheyes, the ERIS it's similar but a GSM phone, so the CDMA radio wouldn't work, am i right?
19:11.45MN--true
19:12.29machichesame as the TP2
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19:12.56MN--eris has same cpu as tp2 :S
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19:13.13machichesorry, TP2 it's CDMA
19:13.23machicheand same radio...
19:13.36machichecpu
19:13.59MN--yeah
19:14.59machichemy mistake, the eris is the one
19:15.06machicheCDMA, msm7600
19:15.48machicheshould i start with an Eris dump? what do you think?
19:18.02MN--im not sure im not a dev
19:18.12MN--search on th ehtc-linux.org site
19:18.17MN--*htc
19:19.12machichei am
19:19.16machichethx
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19:36.13dan1j3lhi
19:37.35dan1j3lcotulla: hey, what's up ?
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19:43.10Cotullahow ur WebOS?
19:43.14Cotulla^^
19:44.22dan1j3l:p
19:44.55Cotulla?
19:45.06dan1j3lWiP
19:45.26dan1j3lWork in Progress...
19:46.14Cotullahow long u got?
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20:12.17tre9To get an open bluetooth driver on Leo, is it a matter of writting something like drivers/bluetooth/bcm203x.c for bcm4329 ?
20:12.19tre9or is there more to do?
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20:21.35Cotullawhy u need open bluetooth driver on Leo?
20:23.06tre9closed is ok too
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20:23.16tre9what driver can be used with non-android?
20:23.28Cotulla"drivers/bluetooth/bcm203x.c for bcm4329" - it's kernel mode drivers
20:23.43CotullaAndroid have inside some extra functionality looks like
20:23.45Cotullafor FM and etc
20:23.59Cotullabut without FM it should work as regular HCI
20:24.08Cotulla(BlueZ should support it)
20:24.19tre9that would be fine
20:27.16tre9doesn't seem to work on ubuntu, does it work in  SHR or OE?
20:28.13Cotullathere also additional file must be executed
20:28.25Cotulla*patch*param*plus* in the name
20:28.29Cotullain \bin
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20:35.07tre9thanks for planting the idea.  I didn't find it yet but am researching.
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20:38.29arrrghhhCotulla, i have a trollish question
20:39.11arrrghhhhave you seen dzo's work on overclocking the GPU on the vogue...?
20:39.20arrrghhhseemed to net them quite a bit of 3d performance.
20:43.54[acl]arrrghhh: you missed alexs comments on that a bit earlier
20:44.15arrrghhhtoday?  Oo
20:44.20[acl]arrrghhh: yeah
20:44.33arrrghhhgoes to read logs
20:45.02arrrghhhoooooh yea
20:45.17arrrghhh49 fps2d
20:45.46arrrghhhbut bunk for RHOD?
20:46.24[acl]i wouldnt try it on the rhod..
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20:51.22Jhintaany one know how to fix this ( framebuffer console for desire hd )
20:51.35Jhintahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9o2BRBZq9o
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