| 00:00.16 | Entropy512 | yup, more specifically, doesn't report any position info until it has a valid lat/long fix |
| 00:00.23 | jonpry | ah. doesn't 2d fix come before 3d? |
| 00:00.46 | arrrghhh | should, but there's something wrong with 0x4 |
| 00:00.51 | arrrghhh | (height) |
| 00:01.09 | jonpry | maybe 0x4 is 2d fix or something |
| 00:01.26 | jonpry | we're just not parsing the result correctly |
| 00:01.32 | arrrghhh | yes |
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| 00:01.52 | arrrghhh | the 'fix' is kinda a hack, just makes sure lat/long exists before showing it's locked. |
| 00:01.52 | rpierce99 | based on timing i believe he thinks 0x4 is 1HZ NMEA or something equally over my head |
| 00:01.58 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 00:02.40 | Entropy512 | hahah |
| 00:03.02 | Entropy512 | based on a combination of timing, and just consistency of those flags with some of the cyanogenmod GPS code |
| 00:03.16 | jonpry | its all 1hz nmea |
| 00:03.31 | Entropy512 | unfortunately while I'm positive 0x1, 0x2, 0x4 are the same, I can't comment properly on anything else - there's a clear divergence for some values |
| 00:03.56 | arrrghhh | jonpry, did you write the GPS code or did phh? |
| 00:04.34 | jonpry | i wrote my own, then he did his |
| 00:04.42 | arrrghhh | ofc |
| 00:04.48 | arrrghhh | which one is being used today? phh's i assume? |
| 00:05.05 | jonpry | yeah, mine used the windows mobile dll's |
| 00:05.12 | Entropy512 | https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_hardware_qcom_gps/blob/gingerbread/loc_api/libloc_api-rpc/inc-1240/loc_api_fixup.h |
| 00:05.19 | arrrghhh | hrm... wouldn't that be "better" jonpry ? |
| 00:05.23 | arrrghhh | RE dll's |
| 00:05.32 | Entropy512 | advantages and disadvantages |
| 00:05.45 | jonpry | i swear some of the qcom gps code explains this crap. they have this structure that more or less is 1 to 1 mapping to rpc results |
| 00:05.55 | jonpry | gtg |
| 00:06.09 | Entropy512 | it's the "real deal" but wrappers are a hack, and if we can get solid open source drivers that's optimal. :) |
| 00:06.09 | arrrghhh | aw... cya |
| 00:06.12 | Entropy512 | cya |
| 00:06.19 | arrrghhh | Entropy512, well that's true |
| 00:06.28 | arrrghhh | something about writing all the code yourself |
| 00:06.32 | arrrghhh | but if the wrapper works better :P |
| 00:07.32 | Entropy512 | some of the RPC_LOC_EVENT values in the file above seem consistent with our chipset (At least based on timing, good confidence in 0x1,2,4, but need to look at the data too), but other values are either unknown or definately different. |
| 00:08.10 | arrrghhh | christ, did htc do anything standard with this device? |
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| 00:11.45 | Entropy512 | more like qualcomm |
| 00:11.52 | Entropy512 | fairly certain that's just a qualcomm API |
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| 00:11.58 | Entropy512 | that qualcomm keeps updating/revving |
| 00:12.04 | arrrghhh | hrm |
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| 01:18.15 | Christie | hello |
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| 01:34.37 | WisTilt2 | hey arrrghhh you there? |
| 01:35.14 | rpierce99 | he's just pwning noobs on #xdandroid, give him a sec :) |
| 01:35.26 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 01:35.28 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's up |
| 01:35.51 | stinebd | iptables needs a noob conntrack module |
| 01:36.04 | WisTilt2 | have you guys run the autobuild kernel by chance? i cloned a clean tree and tried it, toggles sleep/wake over and over |
| 01:36.27 | rpierce99 | i tried it for about 10 minutes prior to the commit on the 17th |
| 01:36.50 | arrrghhh | i heard that |
| 01:36.58 | arrrghhh | toggles sleep/wake repeatedly... |
| 01:37.04 | arrrghhh | didn't try it myself tho :/ |
| 01:37.34 | WisTilt2 | looks like the microp code jb put in there for buttons are waking microp while trying to sleep |
| 01:38.12 | arrrghhh | suck |
| 01:38.27 | arrrghhh | so much for testing before committing lol |
| 01:38.37 | WisTilt2 | yeah and i still dont know why the bt stuff wont work with my pm code coming out of sleep now |
| 01:38.45 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 01:38.51 | arrrghhh | busted your stuff good too eh? |
| 01:38.54 | WisTilt2 | bt is whats killing wake on my pm changes i think |
| 01:39.20 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 01:40.53 | Entropy512 | oooh didn't know there was a #xdandroid |
| 01:40.56 | Entropy512 | there any logs? :) |
| 01:40.58 | WisTilt2 | found something else interesting. if you put phone on charger, AC type not usb, and let it charge fully it will say charged, leave it plugged in and it will actually finish charging to 100% and eventually will go to sleep when done. |
| 01:41.51 | rpierce99 | Entropy512: yes http://xdandroid.com/irclogs/ |
| 01:41.53 | arrrghhh | Entropy512, yea. have you been to xdandroid.com? |
| 01:41.53 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 01:42.02 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, just hand feeds |
| 01:42.04 | Entropy512 | yeah but I always seem to miss critical links |
| 01:42.06 | Entropy512 | :P |
| 01:42.53 | Entropy512 | tiad8 got banned? |
| 01:43.05 | Entropy512 | and yeah, I'm disappointed to even live in an adjacent state from him |
| 01:43.15 | stinebd | lol, i'm in the same half of the same state :/ |
| 01:43.19 | WisTilt2 | what he get banned for? |
| 01:43.33 | Entropy512 | stinebd: yeah saw what you said in the logs. :) |
| 01:44.11 | WisTilt2 | guess i need to start checking the forums again, sounds like im missing all the action |
| 01:44.17 | Entropy512 | his writing style and grammar were atrocious - I'd understand if english weren't his native language |
| 01:44.21 | stinebd | i really don't know what happened |
| 01:44.21 | Entropy512 | but |
| 01:44.26 | stinebd | and i don't really care |
| 01:44.36 | Entropy512 | 34 years old and from PA? |
| 01:44.40 | Entropy512 | he seemed like a teenager |
| 01:44.44 | arrrghhh | he's from dominican republic |
| 01:44.46 | arrrghhh | so yea... |
| 01:44.47 | Entropy512 | ah |
| 01:44.54 | Entropy512 | oh so english wasn't his native language |
| 01:44.58 | Entropy512 | then somewhat forgivable |
| 01:45.03 | stinebd | shouting is his native language |
| 01:45.05 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 01:45.22 | Entropy512 | lol |
| 01:45.23 | rpierce99 | been so long since i've seen mdp irq already on 4 4 |
| 01:45.24 | Entropy512 | yeah |
| 01:45.29 | Entropy512 | he's ALL ABOUT TEH CAPS |
| 01:46.45 | Entropy512 | one thing about ndno's question regarding loopmount vs. native partitions: |
| 01:46.59 | Entropy512 | USB mass storage mode sorta works if you partition the SD card instead of using loop images |
| 01:47.17 | Entropy512 | you can mount, but when you unmount from the PC, /sdcard won't get remounted on the device |
| 01:47.29 | Entropy512 | good for dropping a file somewhere in /sdcard before rebooting. :) |
| 01:47.42 | Entropy512 | (yeah am reading the #xdandroid logs) |
| 01:48.37 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: just booted up the auto build, bounced to orange and back about every 5 seconds for the first minute or so but it's sleeping solid now |
| 01:49.36 | WisTilt2 | i didnt wait that long and rebooted after 15s or so. when you wake it then sleep does it repeat again or is normal? |
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| 01:51.27 | rpierce99 | it seems to do it every time it comes out of sleep |
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| 01:52.59 | rpierce99 | hmm that time it slept fine |
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| 02:03.40 | Entropy512 | stinebd: I was looking throught the logs, it looks like you're thinking of a trip to Japan? |
| 02:03.52 | stinebd | Entropy512: i booked it tonight |
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| 02:03.57 | Entropy512 | sweet |
| 02:04.22 | Entropy512 | I've been wanting to return to Japan for a long time, but it's so damn expensive. My family went there when I was a little kid |
| 02:04.38 | stinebd | i'm looking through kohls catalogs for designer nuclear containment suits now |
| 02:04.44 | stinebd | they're hard to come by though |
| 02:04.50 | Entropy512 | I wish I could find a good non-spun source of updates from Fukushima I. |
| 02:05.05 | stinebd | you're in luck: http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/ |
| 02:05.19 | Entropy512 | TEPCO is proving to be a kinda shitty source - downplaying it enough to lose credibility. Nearly all other media outlets are overplaying it. |
| 02:05.35 | stinebd | their english channel, available via live internet stream, is providing regular live updates along NHK |
| 02:05.40 | Entropy512 | I'm more curious about keeping on top of it because of the political/psychological fallout |
| 02:05.50 | stinebd | yeah, it's a huge hit for nuclear power |
| 02:05.58 | Entropy512 | it's more of a disaster in that way than anything else |
| 02:06.08 | stinebd | despite the fact that a 50s design survived the largest recorded earthquake in the country's history without a hitch |
| 02:06.17 | Entropy512 | Yeah. |
| 02:06.40 | Entropy512 | Some lessons to be learned - not many of the safety analyses take into account multiunit reactor siting and possible interactions |
| 02:06.57 | Entropy512 | but yeah - it's done well considering the circumstances |
| 02:07.17 | stinebd | in retrospect it wasn't too bright to put it in tsunami range |
| 02:07.24 | Entropy512 | poor facility planning as far as the location of the backup generators though. :( |
| 02:07.47 | Entropy512 | The plant had tsunami protection to something like just less than 2 feet below the level of the tsunami. :( |
| 02:08.23 | Entropy512 | still - they should have planned some flood pumping and maybe snorkels for the generators |
| 02:08.35 | Entropy512 | snorkels = easy and cheap |
| 02:09.02 | Entropy512 | the big problem is it'll make it even harder to get new reactors built |
| 02:09.03 | Entropy512 | end result |
| 02:09.11 | Entropy512 | more old reactors get service life extensions |
| 02:09.31 | Entropy512 | ABWR would likely have done better in this scenario |
| 02:09.45 | Entropy512 | ESBWR would probably have shrugged off the SBO situation without any issue at all |
| 02:09.57 | Entropy512 | too bad ESBWR is still under design review |
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| 02:14.55 | Entropy512 | when is your trip booked for? |
| 02:15.02 | stinebd | late may |
| 02:15.12 | stinebd | this should all be over with by then |
| 02:16.05 | stinebd | the radioactive food should be hitting store shelves by then too |
| 02:16.14 | stinebd | so i can see what i'm eating in the dark |
| 02:17.24 | Entropy512 | kewlers |
| 02:17.51 | Entropy512 | What part of Japan? Not sure if the quake aftermath will be over in the affected areas by May |
| 02:18.01 | Entropy512 | that whole entire-towns-wiped-out thing |
| 02:18.10 | stinebd | tokyo |
| 02:18.49 | Entropy512 | ah, yeah, if you stay in tokyo I get the impression it took minimal damage |
| 02:19.15 | stinebd | some buckled sidewalks and chips of decorational concrete off the sides buildings and that's it |
| 02:19.20 | stinebd | and a lot of pictures fell off walls |
| 02:19.38 | Entropy512 | When my family went there, we were in Tokyo for a week |
| 02:19.49 | Entropy512 | then went around the country for 1-2 weeks, can't remember exactly |
| 02:20.10 | Entropy512 | We went westwards towards Kyoto, including a visit to Hiroshima |
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| 02:20.21 | Entropy512 | also think we went northwards briefly? |
| 02:20.23 | stinebd | i was hoping for kyoto but that's probably too much for me |
| 02:20.36 | Entropy512 | got one of those nifty JR rail passes for unlimited riding |
| 02:20.56 | stinebd | yeah they're about 30,000JPY |
| 02:22.09 | Entropy512 | hahah reading through #xdandroid logs - stinebdi squeezed out two kangs after breakfast |
| 02:22.24 | Entropy512 | right to where they belong - in the toilet, right? :) |
| 02:22.43 | stinebd | i usually go in the corner and cover it up until that month's cleaning day |
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| 02:38.17 | jonpry | hi WisTilt2 |
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| 02:39.08 | jonpry | did you figure out the voltage clock thing? |
| 02:42.14 | WisTilt2 | jonpry, back in a bit - dinner |
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| 03:25.00 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: im back but need to get out of here shortly, promised my son i'd play at least an hour of black ops with him after he gets the kids to sleep:) |
| 03:25.24 | WisTilt2 | yeah messed with clocks but need to have you look at this vdd stuff |
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| 03:30.01 | Entropy512 | so wait - did tiad8 just release a build that was COMPLETELY untested? |
| 03:31.11 | Entropy512 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12205645&postcount=1956 |
| 03:38.41 | stinebd | i do that regularly |
| 03:40.38 | arrrghhh | Entropy512, so far he hasn't done anything from what i can tell |
| 03:46.42 | Entropy512 | I don't like how he sold this new RIL as the greatest thing since sliced bread, when in fact it is completely untested |
| 03:47.27 | arrrghhh | not sure how that's unlike any of the other junk he releases |
| 03:47.32 | arrrghhh | people sayin 3g doesn't work in one build |
| 03:47.33 | arrrghhh | wifi in another |
| 03:47.36 | arrrghhh | it's just a mess. |
| 03:47.48 | arrrghhh | i love his PROJECT SOON TO BE DISCONTINUED |
| 03:47.52 | arrrghhh | titles |
| 03:48.03 | arrrghhh | as if he is THE PROJECT |
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| 04:02.57 | Entropy512 | well, if he were to be discontinued himself |
| 04:03.00 | Entropy512 | that would be pretty cool |
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| 04:11.42 | arrrghhh | one can only hope |
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| 13:09.43 | dcordes | ~seen Cotulla |
| 13:09.46 | apt | cotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 3d 18h 11m 8s ago, saying: ':D'. |
| 13:13.08 | dcordes | alsa |
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| 13:15.05 | Gabriel___ | Hi guys. When I click to install the .cab android when it reaches 4 point in installation it shows a message: MJG Project Android Rebuild Cannot be installed. Choose another place to install. But I'm installing it on my SD Card already! Can somebody help me? |
| 13:19.38 | gauner1986 | apt: alsa |
| 13:19.38 | apt | hmm... alsa is the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, or at http://www.alsa-project.org/, or available only for Linux (if you intend your code to be portable, ask me about OSS) |
| 13:19.53 | gauner1986 | apt: oss |
| 13:19.53 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, oss is a portable sound interface available in 11 different Un*x systems. The propietary package is available at http://www.opensound.com/. However, free systems like GNU/Linux or *BSD include free GPL/BSD re-implementations. The support in Linux is being gradually removed in favor of ALSA. an acronym that stands for "Open Source Software" |
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| 14:12.54 | tre9 | I'd like to write a GNOME applet to display 3G/2G status for Leo. |
| 14:13.07 | tre9 | Anyone know if the kernel exposes this info? |
| 14:13.23 | tre9 | or can I transparently intercept it from a /dev node? |
| 14:14.45 | jonpry | probably need to get it from the ril |
| 14:15.28 | tre9 | ah, ok. I will look into it. |
| 14:15.38 | tre9 | Would the sphone source be a good place to look? |
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| 14:24.23 | jonpry | your running ubuntu or something? |
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| 14:27.41 | tre9 | yes, ubuntu. I'm looking at ophono. maybe it will make it easy for me. |
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| 14:30.41 | tre9 | s/ophono/ofono/ |
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| 15:11.21 | tre9 | I added a patch and instructions for using maximus with Leo ubuntu to save some screen real estate. |
| 15:11.24 | tre9 | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo#Cosmetics |
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| 18:40.39 | Sisco | I have an HD2 (semi-bricked) with Qualcomm Diagnostics 3197 access.. it shows up in QDLtool.. So can I flash it with the right software instead of using jtag? |
| 18:41.41 | GNUtoo|bug20 | what's qualcomm diagnostics? |
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| 18:42.02 | GNUtoo|bug20 | I tought qualcomm bootrom(if any) didn't support booting on usb |
| 18:43.03 | Sisco | well the phone is semi-bricked, no screen, vibrates once when turned on, but it does appear via USB |
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| 18:45.44 | Sisco | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999012 |
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| 19:42.33 | GNUtoo|bug20 | Sisco, ok I'll look |
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| 19:44.21 | GNUtoo|bug20 | Sisco, ok I read the post |
| 19:44.35 | GNUtoo|bug20 | basically the qualcomm diagnostics should be the bootrom |
| 19:44.49 | GNUtoo|bug20 | but I've no idea on how it works or if there is available software to use that |
| 19:44.55 | GNUtoo|bug20 | for instance for omap |
| 19:44.59 | GNUtoo|bug20 | there is pusb |
| 19:45.16 | GNUtoo|bug20 | that can get you a bootloader running trough usb with the bootrom |
| 19:45.44 | GNUtoo|bug20 | "but I've no idea on how it works" means I'm not even sure there are pubilc datasheet for that |
| 19:46.24 | ali1234 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.47 | ali1234 | but you need a different kind of rom file |
| 19:47.01 | ali1234 | not the kind they trade on xda |
| 19:50.22 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ali1234, how? |
| 19:50.33 | GNUtoo|bug20 | that could be interesting for trying LK |
| 19:50.48 | GNUtoo|bug20 | (the free qualcomm bootloader) |
| 19:51.38 | rajkosto | it should be able to read/write ram and registers |
| 19:51.50 | GNUtoo|bug20 | yes but do we have tools for all that? |
| 19:52.01 | GNUtoo|bug20 | like easily .c compilable files |
| 19:52.01 | rajkosto | dump it somehow and reverse engineer it ? |
| 19:52.17 | GNUtoo|bug20 | and bang my head against walls, no thanks |
| 19:52.30 | rajkosto | pfft |
| 19:52.47 | ali1234 | what do you mean "how?" |
| 19:53.08 | ali1234 | you load up the software and click "flash" and then give it a flash file pretty much |
| 19:53.33 | GNUtoo|bug20 | how to flash |
| 19:53.35 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ah ok |
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| 19:53.52 | GNUtoo|bug20 | so there is a GUI and it's proprietary? |
| 19:53.56 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 19:54.00 | ali1234 | it's called QPST |
| 19:54.02 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ok |
| 19:54.16 | rajkosto | http://www.x-drivers.com/catalog/flash/mobile_phones/companies/qualcomm/models/qpst/12051.html wat |
| 19:54.23 | GNUtoo|bug20 | btw is there some free tools for the n900? |
| 19:54.32 | GNUtoo|bug20 | to do the same thing |
| 19:54.34 | GNUtoo|bug20 | like pusb |
| 19:54.35 | ali1234 | no |
| 19:54.38 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ok |
| 19:54.40 | ali1234 | only the flasher |
| 19:54.53 | GNUtoo|bug20 | how different is flasher -c from pusb? |
| 19:55.05 | ali1234 | flasher supports pusb supposedly |
| 19:55.12 | ali1234 | i have never tried it |
| 19:55.13 | GNUtoo|bug20 | (coldflash, I don't remember the exact argument) |
| 19:55.17 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 19:55.22 | ali1234 | that's supposed to be pusb |
| 19:55.27 | GNUtoo|bug20 | I tried flasher and it worked, I tried pusb and it failed |
| 19:55.32 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 19:55.43 | ali1234 | you can't get into pusb mode without "bricking" it first |
| 19:55.44 | GNUtoo|bug20 | basically maybe because pusb only load the first level image |
| 19:55.51 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ahh ok |
| 19:55.59 | GNUtoo|bug20 | that's why it failed on my bug 2.0 |
| 19:56.04 | GNUtoo|bug20 | altough pserial seemed to load |
| 19:56.10 | GNUtoo|bug20 | but at the end I got no prompt |
| 19:56.23 | ali1234 | this is why no one really knows if it works |
| 19:56.32 | GNUtoo|bug20 | lol ok |
| 19:56.37 | ali1234 | btw the omap 3430 trm has the dull details on how it all works |
| 19:56.43 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ok |
| 19:57.16 | GNUtoo|bug20 | but I could coldflash....wihtout bricking my device |
| 19:57.19 | GNUtoo|bug20 | I tried first |
| 20:00.14 | GNUtoo|bug20 | do they detail the secure mode in the reference manual |
| 20:00.14 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ? |
| 20:02.10 | ali1234 | yes |
| 20:03.04 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ok nice |
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| 20:23.07 | Sisco | okay thank you GNUtoo|bug20 |
| 20:25.36 | Sisco | ali1234: my phone dosen't appear in qpst |
| 20:26.08 | Sisco | only appears in qdltool |
| 20:26.37 | Sisco | actually I got it working now |
| 20:28.25 | Sisco | hd2 is showing up as Qualcomm HS-USB Diagnostics 9002 now |
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