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00:00.35fakkerapt is always bi-winning
00:02.58Willd:D
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04:26.41jonpryevo shift 4g?
04:27.46arrrghhhwhat about it
04:28.07Ray|yaRits an evo with a tiny screen and a crappy keyboard,what about it?
04:28.16arrrghhhit's not even an evo
04:28.19arrrghhhwhich is the sad part
04:28.36arrrghhhsmaller screen, crappier cam.
04:31.12Ray|yaRdoes it even have an ffc?
04:31.15Ray|yaRI don't think so
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04:32.35Ray|yaRkeyboards are more of a preference,but I don't like it,it just feels cheap in general. the evo felt really solid to me,as does my dinc,and so did my fascinate,the shift feels weak compared to a fascinate and a vibrant,and thats saying something there.
04:36.21jonpryits like snapdragon tp2
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16:49.26MN--hi Cotulla
16:49.35Cotullahey
16:50.20Cotulla~seen dcordes_
16:50.26aptdcordes_ is currently on #htc-linux #oe #openmoko-cdevel. Has said a total of 225 messages. Is idling for 42m 23s, last said: 'I even checked phone with my orange.fr sim'.
16:51.47Cotulladcordes, ok
16:51.56MN--lol
16:52.07Cotullashut down troll
16:52.16Cotulla:P
16:52.48imilkashut down?
16:52.48imilka:D
16:53.10MN--wheres the troll
16:53.10Cotullameans turn off urself
16:53.32Cotullahe have two "-" in the nick...
16:53.33MN--no
16:53.38MN--so?
16:54.27Cotullaso u can read logs and see last dcorde's message, I tell him "ok" in case  he will read logs.
16:54.54MN--what are you talking about ?
16:56.26MarkinusCotulla: hi
16:56.30Cotullahi
16:56.57CotullaMN, u won't eat my brain today <<<--- it's main idea.
16:57.15MN--Markinus: what is the size of the system folder on your clean hd rom ?
16:57.49Markinusca 220 MB
16:58.10MN--okay then
16:58.36MN--im trying to get the system folder down to about 200 mb
16:59.13Markinusits possible, no problem, its a compromise what you want to have and what not
17:00.33MN--im attempting to keep sense though :P
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17:05.27dcordes_Cotulla: http://netload.in/dateikbTz64JPqZ/shr_htcleo_2011-03-09.tar.bz2.htm
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17:08.05gauner1986hi guysd
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17:22.17dcordes_GNUtoo|laptop: Cotulla image 0.1 shipped: http://netload.in/dateikbTz64JPqZ/shr_htcleo_2011-03-09.tar.bz2.htm
17:23.03Cotullaya
17:25.58dcordes_I fear we will have to redo it for all the headers and all
17:26.02dcordes_I didn't think of it
17:26.22dcordes_but if you tell us what you need it will be done fast
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17:52.47jason80im having trouble putting android on a tp2 sprint version i got today
17:52.53jason80ive done a lot of research
17:53.01jason80and in the end i keep getting waiting on sd card
17:53.05jason80any help?
17:53.10MassStashnot enough...
17:53.15MassStashwhich rhod?
17:53.21jason80400 i believe
17:53.24jason80sprints version
17:53.26MassStashsprint?
17:53.33jason80yeah
17:53.36MassStash400
17:53.43MassStashyour trying haret right?
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17:54.15jason80yeah i am ive done this before on a tp but i cant get it on this phone
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17:54.34MassStashthen its prolly something silly i can't help with
17:54.47MassStashya kno, like your forgeting to alter the startup
17:54.55MassStashor put shit in andboot
17:54.56MassStashor root
17:55.14MassStashi would think you're missing something simple if you've done it before....
17:55.26jason80okay do i have to be on windows 6.5 to do this or doesnt matter... yeah if i dont have the files in a andboot folder and just in the root of my sd card i dont need to add the andboot to the startup do i?
17:56.17Alex[sp3dev]you do not. try adding sth like msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 to see if it helps
17:57.09jason80in the cmd line part of startup
17:57.16Alex[sp3dev]yep
17:57.24hycyou shouldn't need that any more, with the most recent kernel
17:58.19jason80do i have to update the kernel myself or when i download the .rar file it has it updated already? also i did format my card to fat32 is that needed for the xdandroid version
17:58.52hycpretty sure you need to update the kernel, dunno which .rar you downloaded
17:59.26hycand yeah, the normal xdandroid build just uses one fat32 partition
17:59.27jason80if you click on downloads on this website im using the .rar that is xdandroid not blazn
17:59.43jason80okay cool im gonna give this another try real quick after resetting phone
18:00.13jason80what would you guys recommend as the best android rom right now
18:00.16hycI would use this bundle instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962
18:01.01hycbut if you already have the other one, you can just download the individual pieces
18:02.31jason80im just gonna use the link you sent me an try that seems easy all i need to alter is he ts calibration file
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18:15.21jason80hyc if your waiting on me im just letting you know m reformatting my sdcard and reset my phone... im waiting on sd card to finish and then ill give the new download a try
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18:42.50hycSo are these AMSS version numbers in the kernel supposed to be exact matches to the phone? I see 62.50 for my G1, and there's no AMSS_6250 in the Kconfig
18:42.58hyclikewise 61.44 for my TP2
18:43.06Alex[sp3dev]tp2 is 6125
18:43.14Alex[sp3dev]first and third digit group
18:43.22hycoh thanks
18:44.00hycthen my G1 is 6220, got it
18:45.10Cotullawhich numbers may change ur life
18:45.13[1]manekinekohyc, when you got XDAndroid working on a properly partitioned SD card, did you do anything besides create the 4 partitions and copy system into #3, and everything else as normal into #1?
18:45.46dcordes_manekineko: what device
18:45.49hycmanekineko: as I mentioned before, I didn't create a partition #2
18:45.51manekinekoRhod400
18:45.59hycso part #3 is system, part #4 is data
18:46.13manekinekoI've gotten it working as far as the init script has mounted everything properly, and I can adb in with a terminal to verify that /system and /data are mounted
18:46.20manekinekobut on the device itself I just have androids flying around
18:46.42hyclogcat ...
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18:47.12manekinekoah didn't realize logcat came up this early, I'll take a look
18:47.18hycI don't remember what part #2 is for, if anything at all
18:47.24manekinekoit's not mounted at all
18:47.27hycok
18:47.51hycanyway yeah, I just tar'd the content of system.ext2 into part #3
18:48.02hycand created an empty fs for #4
18:48.05manekinekoI'm not quite a linux guru, if you don't create a 2nd partition, how do you get the other partitions into the proper numberings?
18:48.20hychm, not true, I also tar'd my old data.img into #4
18:48.36hycI used Linux fdisk, it asks you what part# you want to edit
18:48.43Alex[sp3dev]there's a detection in xdandroid init.. and if you have several partitions but use loopback images, add no_partitions to startup
18:49.04hycAlex: he wants to use partitions now
18:49.05manekinekowell, I'm trying to use partitions as opposed to loopback
18:49.25Alex[sp3dev]just untar some build. there are ext2 tars floating around
18:49.34hycit works fine for me
18:49.39hycI still have rootfs in a loopback
18:49.47hycbut system and data are in their own partitions
18:51.48manekinekohmm wonder if I have some sort of permission problem
18:52.23manekinekothings seem to be having problems writing to my /data
18:52.37manekinekowhich I have as blank, but has populated itself with quite a bit already
18:54.52manekinekoI'm getting endless loops that look like this: http://pastebin.com/0aDS0zDp
18:54.54hychmm, my /data is owned by 1000:1000
18:54.58manekinekoI don't suppose you have any ideas?
18:55.18manekinekoI just tried changing permissions on /data and then on boot they changed back to 1000:1000
18:55.21manekinekoguess something sets that on boot
18:56.54hychmmm. I've seen this problem before, but not on a fresh data partition
18:57.27hycsome of your database files are not all owned by the right uid
18:58.16hycI dunno why it gets mseed up like that, I've seen several cases where some DB files were owned by uid 14
18:58.40hycwhich is totally bogus since valid android IDs are 1000 and up
18:59.22hycI copied cyanogen's fix_permissions script to take care of these problems
18:59.43manekinekohmm
18:59.51manekinekolemme try and clear the data partition again
19:00.12hycjust mkfs a new ext2fs on it
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19:03.07manekinekoany idea what this line is about in the init script? if [ -f /sys/class/vogue_hw/gsmphone ] ; then echo "GSM phone found" fi
19:03.17manekinekoalways struck me as a bit goofy it was saying that on my CDMA phone
19:03.22manekinekobut I suppose it is dual mode
19:03.33Alex[sp3dev]this is a remnant of the past anyway
19:04.50hycthere seems to be a lot of relics in these scripts
19:05.31Alex[sp3dev]i think cdma vs gsm detection should be done via AT commands. sim vs cdma chip detection should be runtime..
19:05.46manekinekoyeah, these scripts could really use a bit of a polishing up
19:06.01manekinekowow weird, I blasted out my data partition, just with rm -rf since I hadn't gotten your suggestion on mkfs yet
19:06.04manekinekoand now it boots
19:06.18manekinekobut I'd already blasted it out before sigh
19:06.22manekinekowell at least it's working
19:06.24hycheh
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19:09.05manekinekonice, hot, SD card mounting and unmounting works
19:09.12hycyep
19:09.15manekinekothough it seems to have remounted to my stub partition 2....
19:09.34hyc? odd
19:10.33manekinekothis partitioning approach seems to have quite a few advantages, why'd you switch back?
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19:11.46hychm? I'm running with partitions
19:11.57manekinekooh I thought you said you'd stopped for some reason
19:12.15Alex[sp3dev]wtf. i've watched the new unreal engine 3 demo movie. the computer graphics are already photo realistic. jeez, i wonder what we'll see in 5 yrs
19:12.19hycno. it seems this was the only safe way to make use of my class10 SD card
19:12.30manekinekoget less card problems now?
19:12.33hycyes
19:12.57hycand if there are problems, they have very localized impact
19:13.03manekinekothe project doesn't really advertise this alternative approach existing for advanced users
19:13.24hycperhaps it's a crusty remnant that people forgot was there
19:14.41manekinekoyeah, seems like it
19:14.51manekinekoit's been a long time since this init script has been looked at it seems
19:15.32hycF22 has a lot of recent commits to it
19:15.52hycbut he was probably focused on something very specific and ignoring everything else
19:16.07bzoyou guys could crib the latest vogue scripts
19:16.30manekinekooh I wasn
19:16.38manekinekooh I wasn't aware any of F22's have been committed yet
19:16.58manekinekoI wonder what's new in the vogue scripts
19:17.01hycthe rootfs that he publishes has the full .git inside
19:17.07hycso you can see this history
19:17.16bzoour current stuff is a modded version of an earlier version of the vogue scripts
19:17.37bzothe newer vogue ones have support for partitioned sd cards and such
19:17.57manekinekoours does too already actually
19:18.13bzowell, more advanced and user friendly...
19:18.35manekinekooh really? hmm maybe it would be nice to merge those in then
19:19.05manekinekoa bit reluctant to make any changes though with F22's big batch of changes still pending
19:19.09bzoit has an installer for initially partitioning and populating the partions from an image I think
19:19.17manekinekooh wow, nice
19:19.37hycthat may be overkill ;)
19:19.46manekinekowell, if they've already got them written, why not? =)
19:20.00manekinekowho maintains the official rootfs repository?
19:20.14bzomostly stinebd
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19:21.26GNUtoo|laptophi Cotulla
19:26.27Cotullahi
19:28.27GNUtoo|laptopCotulla, do you prefer talking here or PM for the image?
19:28.34GNUtoo|laptopmaybe here is better
19:29.06GNUtoo|laptop1)thanks a lot for liking the SHR image
19:29.16CotullaPM better
19:29.18GNUtoo|laptop2)if you need some help on standardizing stuff I'm used to it
19:29.22GNUtoo|laptopok
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19:33.38hycCotulla: you mentioned adding the missing rmnet support to the AMSS
19:34.02hycis this a one-way trip, will Windows break?
19:36.22manekinekohmm, when clicking remount on the SD card, it wasn't actually remounting onto my stub file system
19:36.32manekinekoinstead it seems to be somehow screwing up the remount
19:36.56manekinekosuch that it thinks my p1 only has 14.87 MB
19:37.04manekinekoand it can't read any of its contents
19:37.27manekinekoit looks properly mounted though from just calling mount from the command line
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19:37.37F22hyc: manekineko: my edits to init have been very specific to the keyboard code.
19:37.55hycF22: yeah, looks like stinebd has done all the rest
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19:38.17manekinekoso if I were to whip up any patches, should they go to you or stinebd?
19:38.25hycare you able to do anything with my patch?
19:38.31hyc(same question as manekineko)
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19:41.03dcordesaight time to focus on learning again
19:41.20Cotullaokay dcordes
19:41.36Cotullagood luck ;)
19:41.43dcordesthx
19:41.45dcordesbbiab
19:41.48F22i should be able to. i have a little time to look at it now. give me a few min
19:42.11hycno rush
19:42.25hycjust wondering if it was OK as-is or the timestamp check should be tweaked
19:42.59F22manekineko: probably should go to stine unless you want them tested or you think they may conflict with my key edits.
19:44.48manekinekook cool
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