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| 03:19.35 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: please check your email |
| 03:24.26 | jonpry | i did |
| 03:24.29 | jonpry | argh |
| 03:25.01 | jonpry | i was going over the msm7200 docs this morning |
| 03:25.11 | jonpry | to see what you've been talking about |
| 03:26.41 | jonpry | the sleep timer is pretty strait forward. except i don't understand how you are supposed to detect rollover. presumably you just set the wake time to some smaller interval than the rollover events |
| 03:28.23 | WisTilt2 | sleep timer, you talking 0x0004 i think it is? |
| 03:29.22 | WisTilt2 | that does the planned wake irq |
| 03:29.40 | jonpry | no sleep timer that keeps the time right |
| 03:29.52 | jonpry | when power collapsed |
| 03:29.55 | WisTilt2 | that one is at 0x000c i think |
| 03:30.10 | WisTilt2 | resets and counts from power on until powered off again |
| 03:30.19 | jonpry | right |
| 03:30.36 | WisTilt2 | thats the one that you'd use to fix timestamps during sleep |
| 03:30.58 | jonpry | and that should be accessible from a11/a9 |
| 03:31.06 | WisTilt2 | dont have that in front of me so might have those reversed but they are the same in the docs you have |
| 03:31.13 | jonpry | since it is just a free running counter that nobody can do anything about |
| 03:31.28 | jonpry | but the other stuff, does not seem to exist for a11 |
| 03:31.44 | WisTilt2 | yeah you can read it |
| 03:32.46 | jonpry | like MPM_SLEEP_TIMETICK_WAKEUP_TIME |
| 03:32.53 | jonpry | only wakes up a9 |
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| 03:34.00 | WisTilt2 | when you put arm11 in collapse with bit 0 set it will be woken when that irq triggers |
| 03:34.31 | jonpry | ic |
| 03:34.32 | WisTilt2 | i think that's part of what they were talking about in my comments in email |
| 03:34.53 | jonpry | does a9 clobber that register? |
| 03:35.01 | WisTilt2 | no |
| 03:35.11 | WisTilt2 | only thing that does is power off/on |
| 03:35.25 | WisTilt2 | or roll over, which isnt going to happen |
| 03:35.56 | jonpry | no thats MPM_SLEEP_TIMETICK_COUNT_VAL |
| 03:37.02 | jonpry | yeah i figure i can make this work by just reading the stuff in pm.c |
| 03:37.19 | jonpry | some of which you have not released |
| 03:37.53 | WisTilt2 | yeah i have a whole new pm but now need to wait to release |
| 03:38.02 | WisTilt2 | or remove some of this stuff |
| 03:39.00 | jonpry | it would be nice if the buffer could just be in a9. no need to wakeup a11 for battery measurements |
| 03:39.24 | jonpry | docs say up to 16ms to bring up the domain |
| 03:40.15 | WisTilt2 | so this could all happen in under 100ms probably |
| 03:40.42 | jonpry | i kind of figured that collapse was instant |
| 03:42.41 | jonpry | but i am totally lost |
| 03:43.38 | WisTilt2 | you wont be when you eventually see the whole picture. you're missing part of it in the docs you have is about all i can say |
| 03:46.56 | WisTilt2 | i need to get off this thing and take my wife to dinner before she throws this laptop out the hotel window. i probably wont be on again until tuesday night. going to be busy with grand kids at the magic kingdom getting worn out. |
| 03:47.47 | WisTilt2 | are you still here in the states or back in island land? |
| 03:47.58 | jonpry | seattle |
| 03:48.09 | jonpry | going to be here for a while. trying to get a boat |
| 03:48.23 | jonpry | have fun |
| 03:48.59 | WisTilt2 | damn didnt know you were on the west coast. what kind of boat and you're not thinking of using it to head back to west indies are you? |
| 03:52.38 | jonpry | i'm going to buy it in florida |
| 03:52.50 | jonpry | yeah taking it to the west indies |
| 03:52.56 | WisTilt2 | sailboat? |
| 03:53.09 | jonpry | yeah. not sure about the details. hopefully big |
| 03:54.03 | jonpry | bruce roberts boats look like the most length for your money |
| 03:54.13 | WisTilt2 | nice. we bought a 40' sloop when we lived in St. Martin and sailed for a year down to Barbados and back up to all the islands before heading over to Puerto Rico and had hurricane Hugo destroy it. |
| 03:55.15 | WisTilt2 | definitely a worthwhile thing to do when you're young:) we were in our 30's and stupid but have dozens of hours of video and memories from all the islands from a different point of view. |
| 03:56.06 | WisTilt2 | i envy you. would do it all again without regrets. ok i need to get out of here. good luck on the boat and we'll probably talk on tuesday night. |
| 03:56.23 | jonpry | sounds good. ttyl |
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| 05:08.31 | jonpry | so what is up with these sleep modes |
| 05:08.49 | jonpry | my startup.txt says 2. which is MSM_PM_SLEEP_MODE_APPS_SLEEP? |
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| 05:12.24 | rpierce99 | jonpry: not sure what your question is, but there used to be major problems if the phone went too deep into sleep, with WisTilt2s latest kernel he ignores sleep_mode because 1 gives the best battery life and doesn't cause issues |
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| 05:13.06 | jonpry | well i'm wondering if everyone not using wistilt2 is running sleep_mode=2 |
| 05:13.23 | rpierce99 | most people should be on 1 at this point |
| 05:13.48 | jonpry | even without wistilt2? |
| 05:13.52 | rpierce99 | you used to have to use 2 if you were overclocking, but that has been fixed for a few months |
| 05:14.01 | jonpry | and 1 is the best sleep |
| 05:14.10 | rpierce99 | according to WisTilt2 |
| 05:14.21 | rpierce99 | when I say most people I'm really only familiar with Rhod |
| 05:14.23 | jonpry | so MSM_PM_SLEEP_MODE_POWER_COLLAPSE < MSM_PM_SLEEP_MODE_POWER_COLLAPSE_SUSPEND |
| 05:14.40 | jonpry | there is only rhod :p |
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| 05:29.59 | jonpry | hey [acl] |
| 05:30.07 | [acl] | jonpry: sup dood |
| 05:30.12 | jonpry | i'm confused |
| 05:30.15 | [acl] | jonpry: so i got service but no data ..lol |
| 05:30.29 | jonpry | nice. how did that happen?: |
| 05:30.43 | [acl] | i dunno apparently its a common thing when going to boost |
| 05:30.47 | [acl] | trying some of the fixes now |
| 05:31.00 | jonpry | maybe its nand |
| 05:31.17 | jonpry | j/k |
| 05:31.25 | [acl] | lol |
| 05:32.04 | jonpry | so wistilt2 says he's not going to be able to release pm.c or my freaking battery timer |
| 05:32.16 | [acl] | huh? |
| 05:32.23 | [acl] | u made a battery timer? |
| 05:32.29 | jonpry | no he did |
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| 05:32.39 | jonpry | it wakes up the processor somehow every so often |
| 05:33.13 | jonpry | apparently this is closely guarded technology |
| 05:34.10 | jonpry | but i think the stuff currently in pm.c is enough to be cooking with gas |
| 05:34.16 | jonpry | if only i understood it |
| 05:35.08 | [acl] | never really looked at the code. But if anyone can clean it up is JB |
| 05:35.24 | jonpry | where is this JB? |
| 05:35.40 | [acl] | i dunno .. usually when i need him i email the list or directly |
| 05:35.47 | jonpry | ic |
| 05:35.48 | [acl] | list is preffered to get the rest of the gang open |
| 05:36.20 | jonpry | like i don't understand what pm.sleep_mode is supposed to do |
| 05:36.28 | jonpry | er sleep_mode=0 |
| 05:37.16 | [acl] | no clue.. i wonder if its just some hack.. |
| 05:38.51 | [acl] | thought u were on .35 now |
| 05:40.29 | jonpry | no i'm working on the battery still |
| 05:45.55 | jonpry | been like 2 weeks trying to get a timer setup |
| 05:48.43 | [acl] | dang |
| 05:49.09 | jonpry | so i'm setting sleep_mode=1. which should do power collapse |
| 05:49.18 | jonpry | but i'm not seeing any collapses in the logs |
| 05:51.30 | crawling | gn |
| 05:52.09 | [acl] | fuk yea.. data |
| 05:52.12 | [acl] | time for ril |
| 05:54.21 | odz | niceee |
| 05:55.33 | BoominSVX | [acl]: ? |
| 05:56.00 | BoominSVX | you had issues with 3g? |
| 05:57.10 | odz | probbely needed to wait for the boost prl to get pushed |
| 05:57.42 | BoominSVX | yea, sometimes data can take a while, but I didn't know if he did the MSL programming. |
| 05:58.02 | BoominSVX | just re-read. Looks like he got it now anyway. |
| 06:00.20 | [acl] | its painfully slow but it works |
| 06:00.25 | [acl] | so i need to reflash now |
| 06:03.04 | BoominSVX | [acl]: It isn't 4g, but it should deff be 3g just as sprint uses. |
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| 06:03.20 | [acl] | its enough to fix this beotch |
| 06:03.25 | [acl] | im getting a pot of coffe ready |
| 06:03.30 | [acl] | gonna be an all nighter |
| 06:03.31 | BoominSVX | I told you I'd get you on though. Glad it's all good. |
| 06:03.48 | [acl] | BoominSVX: dood ifi fix this tonight.. ur taking the credit.. not me |
| 06:03.59 | BoominSVX | The account is all yours from here on out. |
| 06:04.07 | [acl] | merci |
| 06:04.14 | BoominSVX | I need no credit brother. lol |
| 06:05.12 | BoominSVX | also, if you decide to use it as a secondary phone, just make sure you got 50 bucks on the account and go boost unlimited on the website. |
| 06:06.42 | jonpry | [acl] if you fix it. you will have time to work on PM |
| 06:07.03 | BoominSVX | Get busy bro. I'll be back on in a bit to see the progress. |
| 06:07.05 | [acl] | jonpry: im so backed up bro.. u prob will have it all done before i eve look at the code |
| 06:07.22 | [acl] | jonpry: besides i though we agreed no more .27 work.. |
| 06:10.49 | [acl] | jonpry: you know cotulla is also doing tp2.. dont hurt to ask him for some of this :-) |
| 06:14.05 | jonpry | the work i'm doing is not really specific to .27 except for the timer |
| 06:14.16 | jonpry | and nobody doing .35 knows how to do pm |
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| 06:15.36 | [acl] | fucking pm |
| 06:15.57 | jonpry | and your doing .27 work like night and day :p |
| 06:16.10 | [acl] | haha.. most of this nand came from .35 |
| 06:16.20 | [acl] | well except the nand driver which is .32 |
| 06:16.23 | [acl] | :-\ |
| 06:16.25 | jonpry | backports blah |
| 06:16.29 | [acl] | for now |
| 06:16.32 | jonpry | oO i got a collapse |
| 06:16.36 | [acl] | shit |
| 06:16.40 | [acl] | knew u would do it |
| 06:16.54 | jonpry | but its all screwy because the clock is fucked |
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| 06:19.33 | jonpry | can't tell how long its been sleeping for |
| 06:21.24 | [acl] | i just made a pot of sick ass coffee |
| 06:21.32 | [acl] | shit will wake up the dead |
| 06:27.11 | jonpry | i could use a bit of that |
| 06:27.41 | [acl] | its a must |
| 06:28.27 | jonpry | do you have the msm7200 docs? |
| 06:28.32 | jonpry | i am confused about something |
| 06:28.38 | jonpry | i think it is clock related |
| 06:28.56 | [acl] | hmm i think i do |
| 06:29.13 | [acl] | but i know the clocks.. like the back of my hand.. so sup |
| 06:29.40 | jonpry | it says 0x000C MPM_SLEEP_TIMETICK_COUNT_VAL |
| 06:29.43 | [acl] | OMG whats this on the back of my hand.. eww.. |
| 06:29.49 | [acl] | i guess i dont know em that well |
| 06:29.54 | [acl] | hmm |
| 06:29.55 | jonpry | how the f do i read that |
| 06:29.57 | [acl] | im gonna look |
| 06:30.34 | [acl] | jeez |
| 06:30.37 | jonpry | i figure its 0xC+base |
| 06:30.40 | [acl] | modem power manager |
| 06:30.57 | jonpry | thats what we need to correct time |
| 06:31.16 | jonpry | that counter can never be turned off once system is powered on |
| 06:31.41 | jonpry | but it says its an arm register |
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| 06:33.51 | [acl] | hmm |
| 06:34.59 | jonpry | pen debounce looks interesting |
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| 06:41.28 | [acl] | this part of the doc is confusing.. |
| 06:44.47 | MassStash | anything to work on tonight brudda? |
| 06:44.56 | [acl] | nahh dood |
| 06:44.58 | [acl] | uve done enough |
| 06:45.01 | [acl] | i have service now |
| 06:45.23 | [acl] | thanks for the remote session yest.. saved me some time |
| 06:45.23 | MassStash | hudda wha?!?!?!?!?! |
| 06:45.33 | MassStash | we got service? |
| 06:45.39 | MassStash | werd, thank you too sir |
| 06:45.49 | [acl] | no i mena i got it.. BoominSVX got me a boost account |
| 06:45.51 | [acl] | so i can debug ril |
| 06:45.53 | [acl] | :-) |
| 06:46.09 | MassStash | oh yea!!! that wnet thro... sweeeeet |
| 06:46.17 | MassStash | where you at with it bro? |
| 06:46.35 | [acl] | guy must get alot of ass cuz i spoke to those people and they werent having it.. so he must be one smooth cat |
| 06:47.03 | jonpry | [acl] afaict the trouble is that MPM isn't in the memory map at the beginning |
| 06:47.04 | [acl] | MassStash: well i need to commit the new initrd so ill be working off the latest kernel. still trying to get it up |
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| 06:47.54 | [acl] | jonpry: wistilt cant hint ? :-p |
| 06:48.14 | jonpry | well he's not here. but afaict that is the kind of stuff he won't give |
| 06:48.37 | [acl] | damnit bck to this huh |
| 06:48.38 | [acl] | lol |
| 06:49.08 | [acl] | MassStash: i got a nice pot of coffe here.. so tomorrow we should have something |
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| 07:02.25 | MassStash | [acl], your going to commit different initrd than nate just did? |
| 07:03.07 | [acl] | he commited yesterday |
| 07:03.08 | [acl] | some fixes |
| 07:03.23 | [acl] | but yeah its additions of the cache and recovery partitions that will be added |
| 07:03.35 | [acl] | also new install script |
| 07:05.40 | MassStash | daaaamn |
| 07:05.43 | MassStash | taht's awesome bro |
| 07:05.55 | MassStash | super stoked to get recovery partitions working |
| 07:06.36 | [acl] | im trying to figure out if its really gonna be of any use |
| 07:06.52 | [acl] | i suppose it will be to back shit up or to update kernels |
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| 07:09.49 | jonpry | [acl] what are the options for getting the current time? is there a dex/rpc? |
| 07:10.20 | [acl] | maybe rpc.. id have to look at the dll |
| 07:11.09 | MassStash | where would CWM go...? |
| 07:12.01 | [acl] | MassStash: well this isnt cwm. the source is available if someone actually wants to port it over.. |
| 07:12.24 | [acl] | this is just a simple recovery to make sure we can get in and repair. right now if something goes bad we reinstall .. lol |
| 07:12.34 | [acl] | jonpry: any idea what dll handles this time shit? |
| 07:12.56 | jonpry | i don't know that windows has a good idea about the time |
| 07:13.12 | jonpry | like we can get 1 second accuracy by reading rtc after a resume |
| 07:13.34 | jonpry | but i would like something with a bit of precision |
| 07:14.05 | [acl] | jonpry: well there is a msm_time that uses rpc |
| 07:14.12 | [acl] | time_remote_secure_get |
| 07:14.14 | MassStash | i kno, was saying it'd then be worth somethin? |
| 07:14.38 | [acl] | MassStash: not sure.. never really played with it.. i dont know whats so special bout it u know.. ignorance on my end |
| 07:15.15 | jonpry | [acl] maybe its worth a try? |
| 07:15.45 | [acl] | ok let me get the svc info |
| 07:15.58 | [acl] | 0x30000048 |
| 07:16.02 | [acl] | do we have this available ? |
| 07:17.18 | jonpry | yes |
| 07:17.26 | [acl] | 9 is to get |
| 07:17.28 | [acl] | 10 is to set |
| 07:17.58 | jonpry | thats it, just 9? |
| 07:18.40 | [acl] | seems like it but let me see what to pass |
| 07:19.32 | [acl] | wow |
| 07:19.41 | [acl] | jonpry: looks like its the same as the LEO |
| 07:19.43 | [acl] | jonpry: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo_RPC |
| 07:20.11 | [acl] | those docs are top notch |
| 07:20.38 | [acl] | wonder if cotulla did it |
| 07:20.39 | [acl] | or markinus |
| 07:21.39 | MassStash | sumthin like make nand backups, flash roms, jaba jaba |
| 07:22.04 | jonpry | uint32, (uint64) time_remote_secure_get((uint8)) ?? |
| 07:22.18 | jonpry | receives a 32 and 64, takes an 8? |
| 07:22.54 | [acl] | jonpry: thats what it looks like.. i cant tell.. my asm is noob caliber still. |
| 07:23.02 | jonpry | :p |
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| 07:23.18 | jonpry | we don't have tools to try this from userland do we? |
| 07:24.01 | [acl] | jonpry: nahh.. i thought u and phh had something going on to run rpc from userland |
| 07:24.08 | [acl] | isnt that how gps is working? |
| 07:24.47 | jonpry | yeah it can be done, but it requires android build system |
| 07:24.54 | jonpry | which takes longer than booting a kernel |
| 07:25.09 | [acl] | dang |
| 07:25.33 | jonpry | command line is th only thing better than kernel |
| 07:26.20 | [acl] | may need to make one |
| 07:26.56 | [acl] | jonpry: do you have any code to run rpc from winmo? |
| 07:27.06 | [acl] | at least to test |
| 07:27.27 | jonpry | no |
| 07:27.40 | jonpry | i've never been able to build anything for winmo |
| 07:27.51 | [acl] | jeez |
| 07:28.06 | [acl] | really? how the fuck did you write that code last time? the wrappers and stuff |
| 07:28.31 | [acl] | ahh now i remember.. i was the guinea pig who use to build it |
| 07:28.31 | [acl] | haha |
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| 07:57.19 | jonpry | [acl] does this look right to you? http://pastebin.com/vnGuvYNN |
| 07:58.12 | [acl] | looks sexy |
| 07:59.38 | [acl] | dzo did something similar |
| 07:59.45 | [acl] | msm_rpc_call(0x30000048, 4, &hdr, sizeof(hdr),5*HZ); |
| 07:59.50 | [acl] | some poop like that |
| 08:00.05 | [acl] | msm rtc |
| 08:01.07 | jonpry | we have rtc, but it uses dex. and only reports seconds since 1980 or something |
| 08:01.36 | [acl] | ic.. but just saying.. dzo uses that call as well.. |
| 08:01.47 | [acl] | so it looks like it might work just fine |
| 08:08.00 | jonpry | where is this dzo code |
| 08:08.11 | jonpry | i am afraid that it will just be seconds again |
| 08:14.50 | MassStash | [acl], gettin anywhere? |
| 08:15.45 | [acl] | MassStash: hmm..yes and no.. just writing bro.. tons of wirting |
| 08:15.51 | [acl] | jonpry: hmm let me look it up |
| 08:16.44 | [acl] | jonpry: http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/kernel.git;a=blob;f=drivers/rtc/rtc-msm7x00.c;hb=45bb000e172a31ec1fa940451a58533e21093cca |
| 08:16.50 | [acl] | look for |
| 08:16.54 | [acl] | msm_rpc_call |
| 08:16.58 | jonpry | thanks |
| 08:17.05 | [acl] | but look at his comment |
| 08:17.10 | [acl] | lol "i dont know what this does" |
| 08:18.25 | MassStash | coo, your kinda at a "from scratch" stage i take it? |
| 08:19.02 | [acl] | MassStash: well yeah but you know that new kernel no one is running yet.. well i need to finish the rest for that so we can all use it |
| 08:19.18 | [acl] | almost there tho |
| 08:21.26 | MassStash | ahhhh, your doin kernel work writing now then? and a nasty kernel base is clearly a neccessity, so mega props bro |
| 08:22.20 | [acl] | :-) |
| 08:23.20 | MassStash | and I'm all about the GB build on nand obviously |
| 08:23.34 | MassStash | is hte lcd density auto heavier in GB? |
| 08:23.42 | [acl] | no idea |
| 08:23.53 | MassStash | cuz it's looks supa crisp ya kno |
| 08:26.01 | [acl] | stine will prob have it done soon .. |
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| 08:26.11 | [acl] | tried any of those alpha builds ? |
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| 08:26.52 | MassStash | thats what i talk of |
| 08:27.23 | [acl] | havent tried |
| 08:27.27 | MassStash | i'm very intrigued to see cotullas shit after the 3d you hooked him up with |
| 08:28.32 | MassStash | ah shit, you havnt even booted a GB build mang? interesting.... You should because i swear stines alpah ass builds are "faster" or maybe "smoother" than polished froyo.... |
| 08:28.44 | [acl] | MassStash: really |
| 08:28.45 | [acl] | woa |
| 08:28.50 | MassStash | swear to god |
| 08:29.10 | MassStash | shits snappy, but janky from alpahness... |
| 08:29.43 | MassStash | hard to explain with words.... |
| 08:30.10 | MassStash | but again, i'm the one saying our dataless nand fliiiiiiiiies on my phone.... |
| 08:30.32 | MassStash | like natural android mach 10 with hair on fire |
| 08:31.10 | [acl] | hmm |
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| 08:31.16 | [acl] | i wonder how the cyanogen froyo is then |
| 08:31.22 | [acl] | i mean |
| 08:31.23 | [acl] | gb |
| 08:32.44 | MassStash | yea man, veerrry intrigued upon reading that thoguht of yours |
| 08:33.26 | MassStash | i net it's off the charts yo |
| 08:33.29 | MassStash | bet* |
| 08:33.50 | [acl] | who knows.. wonder if cyanogen is getting bloated |
| 08:34.05 | MassStash | what d'you mean? |
| 08:34.54 | [acl] | meaning there is so much functionality, it must take a little toll on the speed |
| 08:35.12 | [acl] | new devices dont really feel it due to the horsepower. but our poor old bird might suffer |
| 08:35.14 | [acl] | like cotullas sense |
| 08:35.37 | [acl] | now i ran sense without wvga and it was still slow with 3d |
| 08:35.54 | [acl] | need to think out of the box to actually get that thing smooth |
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| 08:38.09 | MassStash | hmmmmmmm |
| 08:38.35 | MassStash | without wvga? |
| 08:39.02 | jonpry | hrm. i get radio-interface wakelock |
| 08:39.07 | MassStash | and was that nand tho? |
| 08:39.21 | [acl] | MassStash: yeah..i put pics up and shit |
| 08:39.28 | jonpry | f nand |
| 08:39.36 | [acl] | jonpry: the hatred continues ? |
| 08:39.45 | jonpry | 4ever |
| 08:39.55 | [acl] | i like your passion |
| 08:40.17 | jonpry | when you are you going to defect? |
| 08:41.00 | [acl] | who knows |
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| 08:49.14 | MassStash | missed that one.... |
| 08:49.20 | MassStash | y you hate nand so much? |
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| 08:50.37 | [acl] | ok finally installed.. but my kb recognition failed |
| 08:50.46 | [acl] | fak |
| 08:53.01 | MassStash | damn thats still twaked eh |
| 08:53.27 | jonpry | [acl], when you reversed msm_time you said 9 is get and 10 is set. but leo docs are opposite |
| 08:53.31 | [acl] | nahh cuz i took the modified haret patch but they changed the lenght of the string |
| 08:53.32 | [acl] | bastids |
| 08:53.42 | [acl] | jonpry: let me check again.. |
| 08:54.05 | [acl] | jonpry: ahh i gues so |
| 08:54.12 | [acl] | 9 is get |
| 08:54.54 | jonpry | cool. might explain why it doesn't work :p |
| 08:57.19 | [acl] | oops |
| 08:57.56 | jonpry | ? the trouble was that i used that crappy leo stuff |
| 08:58.20 | jonpry | obviously made without [acl] at the helm |
| 08:58.29 | [acl] | :-p |
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| 09:02.16 | MassStash | i'm out, good luck with shit tanight, check it in the mourn |
| 09:02.35 | [acl] | MassStash: aite bro.. thanks again |
| 09:06.27 | jonpry | this shit is infuriating |
| 09:06.35 | jonpry | half the time it won't go to sleep |
| 09:06.42 | jonpry | and the other half it won't wake up |
| 09:07.06 | [acl] | lol |
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| 10:09.28 | lis6502 | hi y'all |
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| 10:10.04 | lis6502 | handelds.org is still down |
| 10:10.09 | lis6502 | so i'll ask here |
| 10:10.31 | lis6502 | y'know where can i find kernel sources which i can crosscompile to htc universal ? |
| 10:10.43 | lis6502 | i've found precompiled kernel 2.6.22 afair |
| 10:11.23 | lis6502 | but i still need sources; i've got acx wireless driver to compile (latest) and camera drivers, from motorola a780 |
| 10:11.26 | lis6502 | (chips match) |
| 10:11.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes_, piiing |
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| 10:20.04 | lis6502 | or, if some1 has patches to vanilla sources, i'll be glad to obtain one |
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| 10:48.32 | phh | [08:32:24] <[acl]> jonpry: nahh.. i thought u and phh had something going on to run rpc from userland |
| 10:48.32 | phh | [08:32:31] <[acl]> isnt that how gps is working? |
| 10:48.32 | phh | [08:33:11] <jonpry> yeah it can be done, but it requires android build system |
| 10:48.37 | phh | not really |
| 10:48.53 | phh | just need to gather some .c, "fix" the androidisms |
| 10:52.53 | [acl] | phh: damn |
| 10:52.57 | [acl] | u still read logs |
| 10:53.07 | phh | only highlights, don't worry. |
| 10:53.11 | [acl] | lol |
| 10:53.31 | phh | I'd like to go back to rhod, but the fucking problem is time. |
| 10:53.51 | [acl] | yeah i dont know how much longer i can go the way i do now |
| 10:54.36 | phh | we should ask governments for 50hours days. |
| 10:55.06 | [acl] | either that or sell this shit somehow |
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| 11:08.18 | [acl] | finally |
| 11:08.20 | [acl] | data |
| 11:08.30 | [acl] | now its time for the nap |
| 11:08.34 | [acl] | since the damn sun is coming out |
| 11:09.01 | [acl] | jonpry: keep at it bro.. im done for the night :-p |
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| 13:19.56 | Daevoq | http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/ |
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| 15:24.12 | Cotulla | hello |
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| 18:01.15 | L_miller | MassStash - Do you have the lastest copy of ACL's androidinstall.tgz |
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| 18:41.18 | jonpry | hi Alex[sp3dev] |
| 18:42.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | hi jonpry |
| 18:42.24 | jonpry | ever hear of modem power manager? |
| 18:42.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: no. well, didn't do hacking this weekend. i have bought some ram and an SSD drive and was busy moving stuff |
| 18:43.26 | jonpry | ram is always good |
| 18:44.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | ssd is incredible. although i think i'll move aptitude cache and chromium cache to ram to reduce write count.. but now my pc is so fast.. |
| 18:45.32 | jonpry | you have ssd and hdd? |
| 18:46.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: for now, only ssd. don't have the adapter to put it into sd slot.. and honestly don't think i'll buy one. my stuff fits on ssd, i'll only use external hdd for virtual machines |
| 18:46.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | cd slot of course |
| 18:46.58 | MassStash | L_miller nah we fukd til he see's that... |
| 18:47.42 | jonpry | i'd like to try flashcache or something |
| 18:48.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: you got ssd? |
| 18:48.14 | jonpry | no, but i have an ssd slot |
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| 18:49.03 | L_miller | MassStash - That's too bad. |
| 18:49.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: how would you go about mounting ramdisk so that it's flushed to hard disk on unmount? any ideas except initscripts? |
| 18:50.03 | jonpry | maybe bcache could do that |
| 18:50.43 | jonpry | i guess you want avoid writes until the end though |
| 18:51.11 | jonpry | wonder if you could just setup the kernel caching policy on that disk, so it never writes anything until unmount |
| 18:52.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: i think i'll only move caches to ram. the only reason i want to flush ram is to be able to move package manager cache to ram (it's the most heavy user of io, i guess) |
| 18:53.08 | jonpry | doesn't that only run when your installing software? which is precisely when you don't want data getting lost? |
| 18:54.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: well, right. i don't run it every day. usually once a week or two, so i think it is alright to be on the disk |
| 18:57.23 | Cotulla | heh |
| 18:57.31 | Cotulla | CE70 finally released |
| 18:57.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: nice. do you think it will be used in consumer devices? |
| 18:58.04 | Cotulla | don't know |
| 18:58.07 | Cotulla | but there Flash |
| 18:58.09 | Cotulla | new UI |
| 18:58.11 | gauner1986 | hey Cotulla |
| 18:58.17 | Cotulla | *HAPPY* |
| 18:59.04 | Cotulla | what is "Microsoft Expression Blend 3" |
| 18:59.07 | Cotulla | hey gau |
| 18:59.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: IDE for wpf |
| 18:59.41 | Cotulla | nice |
| 19:00.41 | Cotulla | maybe cook new MAGLDR on it |
| 19:01.43 | Cotulla | ohh as well I gotta compile gingerbread |
| 19:01.53 | Cotulla | because MSM7200A can't run sesne normal |
| 19:01.55 | Cotulla | *sense |
| 19:02.18 | Cotulla | this delays are awful |
| 19:02.39 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev], use ext4 with oatime,data=writeback,nobh,barrier=0,commit=somebigassnumber |
| 19:02.50 | jonpry | *noatime |
| 19:03.07 | jonpry | Cotulla, you know where modem power manager is? |
| 19:03.21 | Cotulla | what u mean? |
| 19:03.31 | jonpry | its a peripheral |
| 19:03.37 | jonpry | and i want register base+0xc |
| 19:03.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: i use noatime,discard |
| 19:03.49 | Cotulla | why u need it? |
| 19:04.07 | jonpry | cause it has a high accuracy tick timer that never turns off |
| 19:04.13 | jonpry | so we can restore time after sleep |
| 19:04.19 | Cotulla | no u can't |
| 19:04.37 | Cotulla | u need pass req to amss to sync timer |
| 19:05.29 | Cotulla | like |
| 19:05.30 | Cotulla | static uint32_t msm_timer_sync_smem_clock(int exit_sleep) |
| 19:05.32 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev] the commit= is the important part. its the number of seconds to defer writes. so you could set it to like 2^31. and it will never write the fs |
| 19:05.32 | Cotulla | this function |
| 19:05.42 | Cotulla | in timer.c |
| 19:06.08 | khorben_ | hi Alex[sp3dev], I've been patching msm_fb.c with your help, X starts but I only get a black screen :/ |
| 19:07.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: well, i heard that on modern ssds like my intel x25-m g2, you'd better use cfq/noop scheduler and TRIM (via discard) and let the controller decide when to erase blocks |
| 19:07.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | khorben_: what does it say in logs? |
| 19:08.10 | khorben_ | Alex[sp3dev]: I didn't let logs survive a reboot, now I feel stupid :) |
| 19:08.32 | jonpry | Cotulla, if that code is there, why is it not working? |
| 19:08.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | khorben_: anyway, what distro was that? |
| 19:08.42 | khorben_ | Alex[sp3dev]: custom build of hackable:1 |
| 19:09.05 | Cotulla | jonpry, maybe old amss version with uncompatible structures |
| 19:09.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | khorben_: no idea. try latest SHR and run X manually, not via init script and see what it prints to console |
| 19:09.32 | Cotulla | Alex, u like SHR? |
| 19:09.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: no i do not |
| 19:09.57 | khorben_ | Alex[sp3dev]: everything looks fine on the console, but then X starts and the console goes away :/ |
| 19:10.11 | khorben_ | I run X manually |
| 19:10.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: there are many.. uhm.. pythonic apps there which makes it kinda slow. but overall SHR/fso has a very good design (i mean, the code architecture), unlike most other attempts at running X on mobile phones |
| 19:11.08 | Cotulla | :) |
| 19:11.24 | Cotulla | maybe gotta run on leo it later |
| 19:11.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: got sound routing on 32 already? ;) |
| 19:12.03 | Cotulla | no... I fucking with sense & 3d |
| 19:12.14 | Cotulla | looks like this driver can't be used for UI acceleration |
| 19:12.31 | Cotulla | it fails on check inside surfaceflinder |
| 19:12.46 | Cotulla | there it says only 480 pixels viewport size |
| 19:12.49 | Cotulla | while android wants 800 |
| 19:12.53 | Cotulla | I commented it |
| 19:12.56 | Cotulla | and now it just die |
| 19:12.59 | Cotulla | in the silence |
| 19:13.03 | Cotulla | without crashed and etc :( |
| 19:13.04 | Cotulla | so epic |
| 19:13.49 | Cotulla | anybody know how debug it? |
| 19:14.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah. you know my opinion, sense sucks. because. 1. it consumes much ram and rom. 2. it's skin/theme looks ugly.. that's an IMHO and you cannot argue with that. and 3. i don't like it, i prefer separate applications instead of a large all-in-one.. but many users do like sense |
| 19:14.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: let me look into the code.. why do you want to change anything, again? |
| 19:14.42 | Cotulla | yeah but I asked u about surfaceflinger |
| 19:14.53 | Cotulla | bcz it's not working |
| 19:14.54 | Cotulla | proper |
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| 19:15.21 | Cotulla | status_t Layer::setBuffers( uint32_t w, uint32_t h, |
| 19:15.21 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.29 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.29 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.29 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.29 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.29 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | where's surfaceflinger source? |
| 19:15.33 | Cotulla | this check fails |
| 19:15.41 | Cotulla | frameworks\base\libs\surfaceflinger\ |
| 19:15.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: of course it does fail |
| 19:15.52 | Cotulla | on Z140 it fails |
| 19:16.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: msm7200A has the maximum texture size of 512x512 |
| 19:16.11 | Cotulla | no... |
| 19:16.18 | Cotulla | it says it have 800 max texture size |
| 19:16.21 | Cotulla | but 480 viewport |
| 19:16.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | hum. strange.. |
| 19:16.32 | Cotulla | maxSurfaceDims viewport |
| 19:16.44 | Cotulla | I got this values after add LOGE there |
| 19:16.50 | Cotulla | but it need viewport 800 |
| 19:16.52 | Cotulla | not 480 |
| 19:16.58 | Cotulla | if this lines commented it just die |
| 19:17.03 | Cotulla | without crash messages |
| 19:21.35 | jonpry | looking at timer.c. i don't see where it would update jiffies. even if it did work |
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| 19:24.56 | Cotulla | why it need update jiffies? |
| 19:25.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: don't we need to update jiffies only on frequency change? |
| 19:25.42 | Cotulla | jiffies - it's this stupid variable which increase value with time... |
| 19:25.44 | jonpry | i'm not sure where the timestamps in dmesg come from |
| 19:25.47 | Cotulla | it's not count of busyloops |
| 19:25.50 | jonpry | but i assume the jiffy counter |
| 19:26.10 | Cotulla | u need update busyloops at frequency change |
| 19:26.43 | jonpry | frequency change doesn't appear to cause time drift |
| 19:27.04 | jonpry | problem is phone goes to sleep, and wakes up an hour later, and dmesg shows no time elapsed |
| 19:27.44 | jonpry | atm i'm working on how to figure out how much time actually went by. but i have no clue how to fix the kernels time |
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| 19:28.18 | jonpry | ktime_get() related? |
| 19:28.34 | Cotulla | but it should show time elapsed? |
| 19:28.56 | Cotulla | I don't remember how it's working on leo |
| 19:29.03 | fakker | :D |
| 19:29.06 | fakker | so long ago |
| 19:29.14 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:29.16 | fakker | privet |
| 19:29.17 | fakker | carry on |
| 19:29.19 | fakker | i shut up |
| 19:29.25 | jonpry | ktime_get says same time before and after sleep |
| 19:29.49 | Cotulla | but maybe it's right |
| 19:29.57 | Cotulla | cpu is sleeping... no code executed |
| 19:30.06 | Cotulla | why global counter still must increments |
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| 19:30.12 | jonpry | yeah i understand that principle |
| 19:30.21 | Cotulla | RTC - must, but global counter - I think n |
| 19:30.22 | Cotulla | no |
| 19:30.26 | jonpry | thing is that i need working uptime |
| 19:30.35 | Cotulla | RTC? |
| 19:30.47 | jonpry | with better than 1 second precision |
| 19:31.15 | Cotulla | alarm also 1 sec? |
| 19:31.30 | jonpry | i think this timer.c smem thing could work. its just being stupid. i can't printk in msm_timer_exit_idle() crashes the resume |
| 19:31.46 | Cotulla | or don't use fullsleep |
| 19:31.50 | Cotulla | only WFI |
| 19:33.39 | Cotulla | actually I think u can specify idle time |
| 19:37.08 | jonpry | i don't really want to break pm to make good battery measurements |
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| 19:39.59 | Cotulla | back |
| 19:44.00 | jonpry | looks like there is code in timer for syncing after wake |
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| 19:51.00 | Cotulla | lol I found mistake on MS site |
| 19:51.02 | Cotulla | :P |
| 19:51.20 | fakker | tell them and ask for a free device |
| 19:51.24 | fakker | ransom |
| 19:51.45 | Cotulla | http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/evaluate/shared-source-licensing-for-windows-embedded-ce-6.aspx |
| 19:51.52 | Cotulla | "100% of the Kernal" :D |
| 19:52.19 | fakker | :) |
| 19:54.14 | jonpry | http://pastebin.com/ZKDPYqxu |
| 19:54.22 | jonpry | thats not quite what i had in mind |
| 19:58.51 | Cotulla | ever me can't detect what's up there :( |
| 19:59.44 | jonpry | apparently the kernel does not like its clock being fast forwarded |
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| 20:26.20 | jonpry | this is not working: *smem_alloc(SMEM_SMEM_SLOW_CLOCK_VALUE,sizeof(uint32_t)); |
| 20:26.53 | Cotulla | what is show? |
| 20:27.37 | jonpry | 1 or 2 |
| 20:28.03 | Cotulla | hm strange :( |
| 20:28.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: tried reading it directly? |
| 20:28.41 | Cotulla | but I guess there must be soft wake up feature |
| 20:29.02 | Cotulla | but I though android need to be "always-run" mode |
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| 20:29.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | 0xb4e0 + shared base, according to htc wiki |
| 20:29.47 | Cotulla | and? |
| 20:29.52 | Cotulla | where there diff? |
| 20:29.54 | Cotulla | it's same |
| 20:30.14 | jonpry | Cotulla, we can turn arm11 completely off |
| 20:30.16 | Cotulla | just somebody put all dynamic allocated entries to wiki |
| 20:30.22 | jonpry | no power, no clock |
| 20:30.29 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 20:30.36 | Cotulla | but Android doesn't allow this? |
| 20:30.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, to make sure that it works correctly. but yes, if it doesn't work, it will not work any way |
| 20:30.51 | jonpry | android is fine with it |
| 20:31.00 | jonpry | what could it do about it |
| 20:31.05 | Cotulla | I mean android need code execution without "holes" |
| 20:31.08 | Cotulla | at least I though so |
| 20:31.11 | Cotulla | not like WM |
| 20:31.14 | Cotulla | where u can press button |
| 20:31.18 | Cotulla | and device go to suspend |
| 20:31.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's kernel who decides, not android |
| 20:31.40 | jonpry | power off is same as suspend as far as android is concerned |
| 20:31.56 | Cotulla | but Android may assume some mode |
| 20:32.21 | Cotulla | what about alarms |
| 20:32.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: alarms are done via rtc |
| 20:32.40 | Cotulla | in WM there u must use special functions, otherwise ur task won't work at specified time |
| 20:32.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | you set an alarm for rtc, then arm9 wakes us up |
| 20:32.57 | Cotulla | android setup alarm too? |
| 20:33.04 | jonpry | HaRET(4)# pd 0x1f0b4e0 0x10 |
| 20:33.04 | jonpry | 01f0b4e0 | 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 | ................ |
| 20:33.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | it *should*.. but what it does is beyond my knowledge. i know fo sho that android misses calls in sleep mode 0 sometimes |
| 20:33.41 | Cotulla | I mean which model Android use... |
| 20:33.46 | Cotulla | like WM PPC or WM SP? |
| 20:33.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: like ppc |
| 20:34.00 | Cotulla | hm strange |
| 20:34.04 | Cotulla | I though like SP %) |
| 20:34.28 | Cotulla | but modern devices can wake up very fast |
| 20:34.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: nokia n900 is the only linux device that works as SP |
| 20:34.33 | Cotulla | it's not like old PXA270 |
| 20:35.09 | Cotulla | we had not bad battery life on leo with WFI only |
| 20:35.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah. android developers even implemented some patches to linux for partial wakeup/suspend so that stuff like rtc and alarms can be updated without fully resuming and scheduling |
| 20:35.42 | Cotulla | so u need use special functions again |
| 20:35.44 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev], where is that. i was about to try and implement something like that |
| 20:35.46 | Cotulla | to implement alarm |
| 20:36.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: i think it is by default in any android kernel. need to look deeper though, i only heard about the holy war when they tried to push patches |
| 20:36.20 | jonpry | however i need time to work first |
| 20:37.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think that's called partial wake |
| 20:37.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, that is not |
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| 20:38.49 | Cotulla | btw |
| 20:39.02 | Cotulla | jonpry, there was DEX call which reads some kind of clock |
| 20:39.09 | Cotulla | but I dunno if it still on rhodium |
| 20:39.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | but ok now. gotta go back to sound. jb has sent me some stuff to test and i want to test his new acoustic |
| 20:39.57 | jonpry | Cotulla, there is rtc dex |
| 20:40.07 | Cotulla | not rtc |
| 20:40.33 | Cotulla | seems RHO have it also |
| 20:40.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | DEX_GET_SLEEP_CLOCK = 0xa2 ? |
| 20:40.42 | Cotulla | yes |
| 20:40.47 | Cotulla | [K] Fail to get sleep clock from ARM9 |
| 20:40.50 | Cotulla | in nk.exe |
| 20:40.51 | Cotulla | string |
| 20:40.58 | Cotulla | is it working? |
| 20:41.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | you have a rhodium.. i have never tried it actually |
| 20:41.57 | Cotulla | jonpry may use it |
| 20:41.59 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 20:42.02 | jonpry | hrm |
| 20:42.06 | Cotulla | try it |
| 20:42.10 | Cotulla | and tell us if it working :P |
| 20:42.17 | jonpry | what do you think it does? |
| 20:42.21 | jonpry | smem update? |
| 20:42.26 | Cotulla | no |
| 20:42.32 | Cotulla | looks like return some kind of time |
| 20:42.48 | jonpry | ok. trying to diff some smem atm |
| 20:43.03 | Cotulla | try A2 dex call maybe it's working |
| 20:44.45 | Cotulla | but I doubt that u will able to wake up ot |
| 20:44.49 | Cotulla | it when u want |
| 20:45.18 | Cotulla | "Here are three simple workarounds: Either click the continue button 41 times" |
| 20:45.22 | Cotulla | is it really simple ??? |
| 20:45.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: where? |
| 20:46.16 | Cotulla | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/icumove/archive/2011/03/02/windows-embedded-compact-7-evaluation-download.aspx |
| 20:46.17 | Cotulla | here |
| 20:46.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah. microsoft installers suck |
| 20:47.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | the biggest problem of windows is the lack of package manager... |
| 20:47.31 | Cotulla | not suuure |
| 20:47.51 | Cotulla | I used package manager inside ubuntu. |
| 20:48.01 | Cotulla | removed gnome and etc successfully! :D |
| 20:48.08 | Cotulla | then it boots to VGA console |
| 20:48.12 | Cotulla | and I fucked with it |
| 20:48.13 | Cotulla | about hour |
| 20:48.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | sure. i want some app that would handle dependencies between applications, keep track of all files in the system. and most importantly, it will be so good if there were only one application to do that, not some 30 installers like installshield and others |
| 20:48.23 | Cotulla | because my password is one unvisible char |
| 20:48.28 | Cotulla | so I can't enter it from keyboard |
| 20:48.35 | Cotulla | and can't run package manager again |
| 20:48.40 | Cotulla | at the end I able to run gedit |
| 20:48.43 | Cotulla | at half of screen |
| 20:48.51 | Cotulla | select in the context right symbol |
| 20:48.56 | Cotulla | and enter it to sudo command |
| 20:49.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: just in case, you can add "init=/bin/bash" to kernel cmdline and you'll get root access to your box without password |
| 20:49.07 | Cotulla | installed gnome again |
| 20:49.15 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 20:49.22 | Cotulla | but I didn't know that it will remove gnome |
| 20:49.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, you did. it shows you the apps it is going to remove and install. |
| 20:49.49 | Cotulla | as well funny things, like JDK5 removed |
| 20:49.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | if you use aptitude |
| 20:49.59 | Cotulla | and I search 20 mins how to install it |
| 20:50.17 | Cotulla | but yess |
| 20:50.23 | Cotulla | search box is rather good |
| 20:50.37 | Cotulla | at least it can allow u to install some programs fast |
| 20:51.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. it just means that you didn't have experience with it. but you can fuck up windows box if you're using it for the first time. it's the matter of getting used to it. i think the fact that i can update all applications at once and install any app and not search the web for the installer compensates for some other problems |
| 20:51.50 | Cotulla | u can't. there label: "This disk contains system files." :P |
| 20:52.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | what? |
| 20:52.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah, windows |
| 20:52.07 | Cotulla | ya |
| 20:52.13 | Cotulla | some kind of protection |
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| 20:52.21 | Cotulla | but wait |
| 20:52.31 | Cotulla | u sure u need update all allications at once? |
| 20:52.36 | Cotulla | *applications |
| 20:53.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: of course, there come bugfixes and new features. |
| 20:53.21 | Cotulla | yeah but sometimes better to save old version... instead of new ;) |
| 20:53.41 | Cotulla | or it just working "like in ur dreams" |
| 20:53.46 | jonpry | hrm. i diff'd first 64k of smem and got no differences |
| 20:53.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | but the problem is that. you should use debian stable which has outdates software if you want to be sure updates don't render you computer unbootable. sad truth |
| 20:53.54 | Cotulla | try 8A |
| 20:53.57 | Cotulla | or A2? |
| 20:54.00 | Cotulla | how it was called... |
| 20:54.24 | Cotulla | yes u right |
| 20:54.30 | Cotulla | but I wanna update some software |
| 20:54.33 | Cotulla | and only when I wants |
| 20:54.41 | Cotulla | not like Google Chrome |
| 20:54.48 | odz | gentoo |
| 20:55.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: then you should do aptitude update, and then open aptitude and manually select only packages you need to update.. easy.. |
| 20:55.08 | Cotulla | okay |
| 20:55.16 | Cotulla | I tell u already it's not so bad |
| 20:55.26 | Cotulla | but there must be some kind of protection from unexperienced users |
| 20:55.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | in other words, it's better to have a feature that you rarely use than to bang the wall when you find out that the feature is missing |
| 20:55.37 | Cotulla | who can uninstall core UI components |
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| 20:56.57 | Cotulla | Alex, u have link to good instruction how fetch right android tree from their official git? |
| 20:57.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: it is on google site i think. i used that to compile android for 525 |
| 20:57.40 | Cotulla | I mean release branch and etc ;) |
| 20:58.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | mmm. do a repo sync and then repo branch? |
| 20:58.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | or what is it called |
| 20:59.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git -b eclair seems like this |
| 20:59.50 | Pr0z | offtopic : sense with android 2.3 leaked ? |
| 21:09.42 | Pr0z | if i wanna be hd2 android chef i need to know linux good ? |
| 21:10.15 | Cotulla | no, just able to copy files in the right order ;) |
| 21:10.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | Pr0z: no, of course not. you can just copy files from other roms and kitchens and if something's not working, say that android is bad |
| 21:10.43 | Cotulla | but it's really bad |
| 21:10.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 21:12.24 | Pr0z | u mean take crediz on other works ? |
| 21:12.34 | jonpry | if only i could get dex and collapse to work at the same time :p |
| 21:13.09 | Cotulla | why not |
| 21:13.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | Proz: i mean, you should know linux. do learn at least basic stuff like bash.. it will be more useful for you than android in the long term ;) |
| 21:13.45 | Pr0z | i have good skill in windows |
| 21:13.55 | Pr0z | someone wanna take me as student :)? |
| 21:14.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | then you'll adapt fast. |
| 21:14.38 | Pr0z | my console aka dos is good too |
| 21:18.51 | jonpry | Cotulla, 0xa2 is 32khz clock |
| 21:19.37 | jonpry | the only trouble is that timer.c is all hacked up. probably because of broken smem timer |
| 21:20.48 | Cotulla | working? |
| 21:21.03 | Cotulla | u happy? |
| 21:21.47 | jonpry | not that happy |
| 21:22.05 | jonpry | will be happy when ktime is fixed. but at least there is time source |
| 21:27.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | ping dcordes_ |
| 21:29.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | wow, jb has done a wonderful work on htc acoustic. he's rewritten the userspace library and kernel module and now android parses wince's audio csv files and can setup filters and other dsp tables. but it doesn't work correctly on 5225, sound crashes in kernel, that needs fixing. but looks like we won't need audio hacks in htc_hw and won't need to patch qdsp5/snd.c anymore |
| 21:32.52 | Pr0z | is bash is like ash or sh |
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| 21:40.53 | jonpry | will be happy when ktime is fixed. but at least there is time source |
| 21:40.59 | jonpry | will be happy when ktime is fixed. but at least there is time source |
| 21:41.08 | jonpry | will be happy when ktime is fixed. but at least there is time source |
| 21:41.10 | jonpry | will be happy when ktime is fixed. but at least there is time source |
| 21:41.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | wow |
| 21:41.12 | jonpry | will be happy when ktime is fixed. but at least there is time source |
| 21:41.18 | jonpry | oops |
| 21:41.28 | jonpry | wrong window. up enter |
| 21:46.07 | Cotulla | hm? |
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| 21:50.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: oh yeah. i know how it goes |
| 21:53.07 | Cotulla | lol |
| 21:53.08 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 21:53.16 | Cotulla | I am hacking this MSI installator of CE70 :) |
| 21:53.41 | Cotulla | I found there XML with almost direct links |
| 21:53.42 | Cotulla | O_o |
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