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00:52.05WisTilt2arrrghhh: test image, your filename when you get a chance.
00:52.12arrrghhhheh
00:52.16arrrghhh10 minutes before i'm set to go home :P
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00:52.38WisTilt2np. im leaving here in a bit also, my grandsons birthday dinner so wont be on until later tonight
00:52.53arrrghhhnice
00:54.12arrrghhhWisTilt2, f4ced10cfd0cfb6fa580175499096c75
00:54.17WisTilt2this kernel is the new pm.  i have a few tests in it to make sure it doesnt crash after you put it through the ringer on your phone.  you will get a quick vibrate every time arm11 wakes up also
00:54.32WisTilt2yep correct one
00:54.35arrrghhhcool, sounds good.,
00:54.39arrrghhhalright, i'm going to boot it then
00:54.52WisTilt2also, knock on wood but sod should not happen now.
00:54.58arrrghhhcurrently tethering, so i will drop.  hopefully i'll catch you later on tonight.
00:55.04arrrghhhi haven't had an SoD in ages to be honest.
00:55.16arrrghhhothers have tho, so let's hope :D
00:55.49arrrghhhalrighty.  ttyl WisTilt2, thanks again!
00:55.59WisTilt2one more thing, any time there is a problem when waking arm11, memory, or resuming processes after sleep, you might get the wake led and vibrate but could be a few seconds until screen powers up.  that is normal if that happens.
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01:34.58WisTilt2arrrghhh, so whats the good word. leaving here in about 10mins
01:37.23arrrghhhwell initially wakes were slower
01:37.32arrrghhharm11 comes up immediately
01:37.46arrrghhhhrm.  well wakes are all over the board in fact.
01:37.57arrrghhhsometimes it takes 5s for the panel to come up
01:38.00arrrghhhsometimes 1
01:38.06arrrghhhsometimes it fails completely
01:38.14arrrghhhthe failures/bad behavior here with waking seems worse tho tbh..
01:38.53arrrghhhah just read the logs
01:38.59arrrghhhseems i missed a post from you :P
01:39.02arrrghhhi think that is what is happening.
01:39.05WisTilt2yeah read my email:)
01:39.08arrrghhharm11 always wakes
01:39.12arrrghhhOo email
01:39.25WisTilt2this is just to trace down stuff that isn't coming up fast enough everytime.
01:39.31arrrghhhah ok
01:39.41WisTilt2wanted to see if you're seeing same thing on the 400 as i am on the 300
01:39.52arrrghhhweird, phone didn't notify me of said email.  usually it beats the gmail client.
01:40.33arrrghhhso when just arm11 collapsed, screen wakes are very fast.  that's status quo, and i'm sure expected as nothing else is sleeping.
01:41.27WisTilt2whats strange is if you count the number of sleep/wakes you do, each time it seems to take longer to wake the panel, then everything resets and the same sequence happens again about the same time frame
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01:41.50arrrghhhWisTilt2, interesting.  haven't gone thru enough to notice any pattern that complex yet.
01:42.02arrrghhhi was driving for a good chunk of my time gone there :P
01:42.32WisTilt2uh, when arm11 is collapsed its in full sleep.  blinking its trying to freeze everything before arm11 goes down
01:42.52arrrghhhyea
01:42.57arrrghhhoh that's "full sleep?
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01:43.02arrrghhher.  endquote.
01:43.57WisTilt2yes, its not in full sleep til solid green.  the blinking is when processes are being frozen and memory preparing for sleep so wakes from blinking green will be instant
01:44.01arrrghhhi didn't realize that.  well panel wake is instant every time so long as i don't have solid green.
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01:44.06arrrghhhyea
01:44.19arrrghhhhrm.  i am starting to notice a cycle with the wakes.
01:44.25arrrghhhsome wakes are ridiculously fast.
01:45.58WisTilt2so far it looks like some clock isnt fully up sometimes when panel init gets called, thats what this kernel will track down hopefully.
01:46.35WisTilt2im more and more convinced its a timing problem with a clock or something in fb called too soon.
01:47.05arrrghhhcool
01:47.10arrrghhhso i'm guessing you just want a ton of sleep/wakes
01:47.13arrrghhhand a dmesg?
01:47.19WisTilt2are you getting the quick vibrate when arm11 wakes?
01:47.21arrrghhhi should probably pull a few so it doesn't get truncated
01:47.23arrrghhhyup
01:47.25WisTilt2yes
01:47.52WisTilt2just make sure it goes to solid green each time before waking
01:48.02arrrghhhheh
01:48.08arrrghhhi played with it a few times when it was blinking :P
01:48.19arrrghhhi can just reboot if you want
01:48.32arrrghhhclearer logs are easier to read, i don't mind.
01:49.17WisTilt2yeah probably would be better with no false wakes.  btw, when it wakes on its own for background sync stuff you should get the vibrate also.
01:49.43WisTilt2just so you dont think your phones going nuts
01:50.46arrrghhhlmao
01:50.50arrrghhhit used to do that AFAIK
01:51.05arrrghhhnot sure what caused the vibes, i was told tasks waking the phone basically.
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01:52.03WisTilt2how long is it taking to go to full sleep once blinking green starts?
01:53.23arrrghhh~5s i'd say
01:53.28arrrghhhthat's been pretty consistent too
01:53.46arrrghhhwakes... all over the damned place hah
01:54.16WisTilt2thats going to be as fast as it will get into full sleep i think.  takes that long for freeze processes and memory sleep before arm11 shuts down
01:54.21arrrghhhand now that i watched and counted there was a 30s sleep.
01:54.28arrrghhhat first it was 5s almost every time :P
01:54.34arrrghhhyea
01:54.45WisTilt2might be a background app that time?
01:54.48arrrghhhthat might be how it is for native android devices, they just don't show it to the end-user.
01:54.55WisTilt2should be 5s normally
01:54.55arrrghhhcould be...
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01:55.40WisTilt2you still getting good overnight battery drain with the previous kernel?
01:55.58arrrghhhoh yea didn't talk to you about that
01:56.05arrrghhhit was ~.5%/hr again
01:56.11arrrghhhmaybe a little higher.
01:56.24arrrghhhnow it's 30s to sleep everytime.  bleh.
01:56.33arrrghhhsometimes it seems to get "stuck" taking 30s to sleep.
01:56.35WisTilt2thats about what i expect everyone should get in full sleep.  maybe .3 now and then
01:56.43arrrghhhi'll see if there's any apps to kill.
01:56.52arrrghhhyea i have full sync on
01:56.56arrrghhhjust one account
01:57.03arrrghhhwith clocksync enabled
01:57.10arrrghhhi think it runs every hour for me...
01:57.38WisTilt2that 30sec deal is puzzling.  i see that happen now and then and it seems to stay that way once its triggered
01:57.55arrrghhhindeed
01:58.04arrrghhhshort of rebooting, i haven't been able to "fix" it IIRC
01:58.21arrrghhhyou're right tho, it does seem to go in a cycle
01:58.24arrrghhhthe wakes that is.
01:58.43WisTilt2i think going into airplane mode then back fixed it once but could have been a one time thing by chance
01:58.53arrrghhhheh
01:59.00arrrghhhi guess i can try it now, worth a shot
01:59.08WisTilt2you notice it wakes quick again then each time it takes longer?
01:59.10arrrghhhcuz there's nothing running (other than services that always kick themselves back on)
01:59.20arrrghhhyea, then it becomes quick again lol
01:59.32WisTilt2like a counter is being reset
01:59.38arrrghhhhrm
02:00.58WisTilt2ok i need to head over to the grandsons birthday dinner.  i will be on later if its not too late.
02:01.14arrrghhhcool, have a good one!
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05:15.22arrrghhhWisTilt2, yo
05:15.29arrrghhhwas compiling an email to you
05:16.02arrrghhhbasically dmesg logs and how i experienced the wakes
05:16.08WisTilt2k. ill be up for another hour then im hitting the sack. grand wore me out
05:16.12WisTilt2grand kids
05:16.32WisTilt2yes, those logs would be good
05:16.34arrrghhhi had one really odd wake too on the first dmesg... the screen woke to the text console
05:16.58WisTilt2you mean like terminal or just went to text?
05:16.59arrrghhhi hit power let it sleep then when i woke it back up it was at the lock screen.
05:17.26arrrghhhlike it is when it first boots basically
05:17.36arrrghhhbefore the bootani
05:17.41WisTilt2what text was on the screen?
05:18.20arrrghhhdidn't really read it... kinda flashed quickly.
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05:22.02arrrghhhWisTilt2, logs sent.
05:22.15arrrghhhgot some failed wakes, hopefully the dmesgs are useful :D
05:27.41WisTilt2sorry, our dog decided to throw up all over the couch.
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05:33.07WisTilt2arrrghhh: your 1st log looks like there was a vsync issue with msmfb_pan_display that caused that text
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05:38.38WisTilt2arrrghhh, what in the hell is this clock stuff at the 5 second area?  dont remember seeing that in any logs before
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06:03.12arrrghhhWisTilt2, sorry.  not sure what clock stuff is in there for...
06:04.13WisTilt2might be from the clock commit bzo did, i pulled those changes last night
06:05.03WisTilt2your logs were very helpful and im making another tweak.  removing the vibrate also on this next one
06:05.45arrrghhhk
06:06.14WisTilt2all those wakes were from solid green right?
06:06.54arrrghhhyup
06:07.47arrrghhhdmesg.txt might have been messed up
06:07.57arrrghhh1&2 tho are all from solid green for sure.
06:09.49WisTilt22nd one is nice and has the sequences im looking for
06:09.58arrrghhh:)
06:10.08arrrghhhfigured giving you 3 would be a good cross-section hopefully
06:10.18WisTilt2yes
06:10.24arrrghhhi had at least one failed wake in each too
06:10.51arrrghhhlast one i had a failed wake early, so i grabbed the logs quickly
06:11.25WisTilt2going to take me around 15mins to make these changes so hopefully you can get it tonight before you quit and run it overnight to see if it lives all night
06:11.42arrrghhhindeed
06:11.52arrrghhhi do need to go to bed soon :P
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06:21.43WisTilt2arrrghhh: compiling and testing now...
06:21.54arrrghhh:)
06:22.10WisTilt2didn't i tell you i made it a holiday tomorrow?
06:22.16arrrghhhlol
06:22.22arrrghhhtell my boss that heh
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06:23.14arrrghhhi should start using more work from home days tho
06:23.26arrrghhhneed to finish setting up my office/desktop rig for that tho.
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06:34.38WisTilt2arrrghhh, you want the modules also or just image?
06:34.48arrrghhhjust the image is fine
06:34.54arrrghhhunless i'm posting it for the masses
06:35.44WisTilt2not yet.  ok its ready, a8205d6568686cbcae6cf40acdd5c6b6
06:36.48WisTilt2want to see if it runs on both the 300 and 400 overnight and curious if you still see same battery results
06:37.02arrrghhhhrm
06:37.12arrrghhhjust the zImage?
06:37.19WisTilt2yep
06:37.38WisTilt2i can upload whole pack if you want it
06:37.47arrrghhhno just md5's aren't matching
06:37.50arrrghhhand i'm using wget :P
06:38.00WisTilt2oh, your filename
06:38.20arrrghhhhrm, that's what i tried first...
06:38.23arrrghhhlet me grab it again
06:38.39arrrghhhah.  there we go.
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06:44.47WisTilt2man i'm loving F22's rootfs.  i put the original frx04 stuff back on today to test something and forgot to change it back to his, really missed the non-mapped keys!
06:44.58arrrghhhlol
06:45.01arrrghhhhe needs to commit that!
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06:51.42arrrghhhthanks WisTilt2.  bedtime, i'll let you know how it went in the morning.
06:51.55arrrghhhlooks like my battery is at 100 tho, battery reading will probably not be good.
06:52.16WisTilt2ok great
06:52.21WisTilt2ill be on and off tomorrow
06:52.43WisTilt2battery will settle down to around 90 after a bit unless you charged it in winmo
06:53.00arrrghhhit was charging in android
06:53.07arrrghhhpegged @ 100 lol
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06:53.18arrrghhhno worries
06:53.20arrrghhhg'nite
06:53.21WisTilt2yeah it will drop to low 90's so take that into consideration
06:53.38WisTilt2im out too, need sleep
06:53.40emweWisTilt2: heya. jus tread logs. can you please evaluate?
06:53.42emwewait
06:53.47WisTilt2hey emwe
06:53.50emweone sec
06:54.05WisTilt2np, fire away
06:54.17emweplease evaluate the duration it takes to send arm9 speed 2 speed 7 stuff in pm.c at the very end
06:54.29emwei once had the suspicion, that it sometimes took rather to long performing the rpc call
06:54.47emwejust might be wrong, but IIRC it sometimes had its oopses taking too long
06:54.56emweit's in the suspend/resume hooks there
06:55.41WisTilt2so you think something is wrong when going from 7 to 2 for sleep or both?
06:56.58emwemight just be the call takes so long
06:57.06emwejust thought to notice
06:57.23emwemight be false alarm, but i think i also had timed that
06:57.53emweso, i gotta go as well. sleep tight WisTilt2.
06:58.36emweperhaps you can put quick measures around these to make sure it's not a showstopper
06:58.39WisTilt2i can put some timestamping in there and see but you could very well be right.  i know early suspend/resume in microp has some issues with critical timing problems at times so could be the same here
06:58.42emweor just comment them
06:58.54emwethank you!
06:59.04emwebye bye WisTilt2.
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06:59.20WisTilt2nite emwe, ill let you know my findings
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12:56.15jonpryhi all
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12:57.28jonprysay i had a userland daemon running that need to store lots of data. where would be the right place to put it? /data ?
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13:42.20sykosoftjonpry: I suppose the question to that is how much data? keeping in mind the data.img size in the current incarnation, if you're talking 10's of megs, that's less than ideal (perhaps sdcard instead), on the other hand, if < 10 megs, data "should" be fine
13:42.57sykosofteither way, it ends up on the sdcard (unless using nand builds, assuming rhod here)
13:43.14jonpry1MB or so would be fine
13:43.31jonprybut i want to write it lots of times, like maybe every hour
13:45.01sykosoftdata seems fine then, but keep in mind, harder to access outside android than sdcard directly
13:45.24jonpryi want it to work on nand though
13:45.34sykosoftok, so not for just testing then
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13:45.51jonpryno this is a production problem
13:46.16sykosoftdata will be persistent unless hard reset (or, again, current incarnation, data.img removed)
13:47.29jonprythats good enough for me
13:48.06sykosoftjust curious, what sort of data? battery stuff from the buffer wistilt2 created?
13:48.11sykosoft(stored longterm I assume
13:48.12sykosoft)
13:48.21jonpryyeah that stuff
13:48.38sykosofthow far back are you planning to keep the data?
13:48.55jonpryevery so often we can take loads of data and use it to make wildly accurate model
13:49.28sykosoftsad that the current implementation uses tables vs proper algos (I remember seeing THOSE conversations)
13:49.55jonpryi think my new thing is done
13:50.09jonprymostly a matter of packaging
13:50.48sykosofthow are you planning to process the data? I saw via userland daemon, as an android service?
13:51.23jonpryi'm not really sure how it should be started
13:51.47jonpryandroid service might be cool because it can be packed up as an apk
13:52.53sykosofthow often did you say you were going to write to this?
13:52.58jonprybut NDK is hard to use, and i think this might have to integrate with libhardware
13:53.18jonpryi dunno a million times
13:53.46sykosoftfrequency in time?
13:54.30jonprywell every hour maybe. if you wait too long high chance of shutdown or reboot
13:54.36sykosoftright
13:54.48sykosoftperhaps increasing frequency when reaching certain levels
13:54.58sykosoftotherwise, you could miss the last 20 percent of a drain
13:55.20sykosoftI was thinking about nand life, does the nand type in rhod support any wear-leveling?
13:55.28jonpryor more often when waked
13:55.51jonprynot exactly wear levelling, but it can handle bad blocks
13:56.35sykosoftobviously, it probably won't matter during the life of the phone (wince pim data with push activesync as an example why)
13:58.00jonpryr u familiar with camro's efforts?
14:00.12jonpryhe seemed to be getting people to log battery data
14:01.29sykosoftyeah, frankly I felt they were less than useful
14:01.33sykosoftand only would apply to their devices
14:02.10jonpryi'm just trying to find some data
14:02.38jonprybut these kmesg dumps don't seem to have current draw in the,
14:09.13sykosoftdata?
14:10.47jonprymeasured battery voltage and currents
14:10.54jonprylike wistilt2 is making
14:23.47jonpryhmm, battlog for ce
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16:06.17L_millerjonpry he is on xdandroid. :)
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17:11.55bzohey jonpry
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17:12.48Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: hello here
17:13.50Cotullahey
17:13.57Alex[sp3dev]yes, it's me again
17:14.07gauner1986hi
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17:26.15jonpryhi all
17:26.46jonpryAlex[sp3dev]: does the config holes thing stop the crashing for you?
17:27.13Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: yes
17:27.23Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: you got crashes?
17:27.44jonpryi did, then i reduced memory to 2 64mb banks
17:27.55Alex[sp3dev]just add teh holes
17:28.02jonpryi think mem holes is for not power of 2 banks
17:28.27jonpryit is not a well documented feature
17:28.53jonprydo you have sd resume problem?
17:29.18Alex[sp3dev]yes. i think it is misused in mm subsystem, there should've been a BUG() check guarded by sparsemem problem. but hey, it fixes the problem, according to grepping the source code using holes
17:29.59Alex[sp3dev]i have not tested sd. for some reason, RPC is not registering 0x3000000b:fadefade incoming endpoint for me (which makes ARM9 crash on sound) so i'm analyzing the source code to find out
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17:31.06jonpryah, i'm waiting for emwe to commit .35 sound
17:31.18jonpryarrrghhh, are you familiar with battlog?
17:31.45arrrghhhno...
17:31.53Alex[sp3dev]i am actually reworking the whole qdsp stuff to  pass amss version and rpc servers version via pdata rather than having it compile-time. will commit as soon as i get sound working
17:32.07[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: fucking awesome
17:32.19[acl]carry on :-)
17:32.37jonpryAlex[sp3dev]: sounds like a good plan
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17:33.32arrrghhhdamn tether.  jonpry sorry.  what's up with battlog?
17:33.47jonpryit sux :p
17:33.51arrrghhhlol
17:34.15jonprythought it would be perfect, logs battery info to csv file
17:34.23Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: maybe you could look into rewriting microp-ksc for now? i generally want to pass keyboard scancodes via pdata and maybe implement scancode as platform-defined callback. can show you my 'inteface' header for that.. still haven't invested time into writing the driver
17:34.47jonpryarrrghhh, but if you set update to 1 second, values only change every 10 or so
17:34.55arrrghhhhrm
17:35.14jonpryAlex[sp3dev]: yeah i could do ksc
17:35.30Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: i wonder. first off,emwe doesn't sound RPCROUTER_CTRL_CMD_BYE.. will it work without? and secondly, he doesn't register new_server(0x3000fffe, 1). is it needed?
17:35.40Alex[sp3dev]s/sound/send/
17:36.28jonpryi have never seen 0x3000fffe before
17:36.47Alex[sp3dev]ahum. it's in our rpc router.. and it is not in vanilla, therefore i'm asking
17:39.09jonpryso your wondering if qdsp is not working because smd is broken?
17:39.37[acl]if udont know by now.. cotulla is the man
17:39.52Alex[sp3dev]well, it is not working because we're not registering incoming server with correct prog version. i wonder how much of our patches to smd can be dropped
17:40.08Alex[sp3dev][acl]: have you checked it yourself?
17:40.45[acl]nahh bro.. too busy lately
17:40.52[acl]been in my apt a total of 10 hours this whole week
17:41.12Alex[sp3dev][acl]: wtf are your bosses about?
17:41.18[acl]im taking off tomorrow and wont be back till sunday
17:41.45[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: its not just work.. i have some side gig to help pay for bills
17:41.51[acl]have u any idea how expensive an apt is in nyc?
17:41.52[acl]lol
17:41.58arrrghhhlol
17:42.04arrrghhhdon't want to know.
17:42.08[acl]shit isnt worth it
17:42.09Cotulla~apt die
17:42.09aptACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
17:42.11Alex[sp3dev][acl]: around $1k ?
17:42.20Alex[sp3dev]or $4 k rather?
17:42.21[acl]iw ish
17:42.32[acl]1k if you want to live in the hood
17:42.41[acl]2k if u want o live in a ok closet..
17:42.42arrrghhhthat's for a tiny apt too huh
17:42.47arrrghhhzomg
17:43.09[acl]thing is i baught my apt.. outside the city.. but even mortgate is around 2k a month
17:43.20[acl]and thats dirt cheap..
17:43.21arrrghhhso like a condo?
17:43.28[acl]co-op
17:43.31arrrghhhhuh
17:43.55[acl]its shres in a corp that owns a building. and as a shareholder you are entitled to an apt.. kinda cool
17:44.21jonpryever hear of batman.apk?
17:44.26Alex[sp3dev]it's so complicated
17:45.52[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: anyways im gld u have time to butcher all this. Jopry too.. its just good to get more involvement.
17:46.15Alex[sp3dev][acl]: and so.. xdandroid team has reinvented the division of labour?
17:46.36jonprymy battery code: http://gitorious.org/scbs/scbs
17:46.37[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: id unno anything about xdandroid team..
17:46.46[acl]thats just stine right
17:46.48arrrghhh[acl], you are the xdandroid team.
17:46.52arrrghhh:P
17:46.52[acl]i am ?
17:47.00[acl]this is news to me
17:47.04arrrghhhlol
17:47.09arrrghhhtechnically i am as well
17:47.13arrrghhhnot sure how that happened.
17:48.19[acl]im in "Team phh"
17:48.24arrrghhhlol
17:48.26[acl]:-p
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17:49.22Alex[sp3dev]ok, looks like jb got video recording working, but has not released his camera lib yet. looks like except nand and fm radio, everything is done?
17:49.45jonprybt?
17:49.57Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: i have TI
17:50.03arrrghhhBT works for TI?
17:50.05bzojb's got rhod bt partly done
17:50.09Alex[sp3dev]yes of course
17:50.14arrrghhhlolwut
17:50.16arrrghhhyes of course
17:50.18Alex[sp3dev]but only on 112500
17:50.19[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: there are some libs floating around.. not suere where they came from
17:50.20bzoti only works partly as well
17:50.21Alex[sp3dev]and not on xdandroid
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17:50.26arrrghhhah
17:50.48bzoafaik, bt audio routing is broken for all
17:50.55bzothat's something jb has been looking at
17:51.01arrrghhhi thought so as well
17:51.09arrrghhhit'll pair, but no audio passes.
17:51.10[acl]which reminds me i need to look into the 3.5mm again
17:51.16arrrghhh[acl], yes, you do :D
17:51.26[acl]i was close but that damn blackstone mfg driver got in the way.. got all broken builds
17:51.33arrrghhhheh
17:52.04arrrghhhwistilt2 seems almost done raping PM as well
17:52.06[acl]bzo: actually we should take that out..
17:52.23[acl]bzo: the blackstone headset patch is just ugly..
17:52.25bzo[acl] the blackstone driver?
17:52.27Alex[sp3dev]the good thing about gingerbread is that it's default theme doesn't cause me to vomit and replace it right away
17:52.34arrrghhhlol
17:52.44arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], seems "lazy" on the gfx y'know?
17:52.57bzo[acl] you could crib Alex's 3.5 driver
17:53.03[acl]bzo: for rhod we use the h2w headset driver right. We can add the audio jack code on top of that. For blacksone the headset mgr was added which doesnt even work right
17:53.08Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: i can't parse that. can you paraphrase?
17:53.28[acl]bzo: not the same since they dont have h2w. we need the ability to have h2w and 3.5 mm
17:53.42arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], some of the graphic cues seem like they were thrown together, not well polished.
17:53.43bzo[acl] ah, ok
17:53.59arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], it looks clean, but plain as well compared to froyo.
17:54.01[acl]bzo: right now we have 3.5mm via the little oem converter.. that works just fine. but the 3.5mm jack is different
17:54.03Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i hope that on 35 it will work with the headset driver from there
17:54.27segnaleguys
17:54.28[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: well 3.5 we can prob use microp. Wince seems to use microp for the hedaset stuff
17:54.36[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: i mean in .35
17:54.40segnalewhy do I get error 264 when I try to do a task29?
17:55.00segnaleI think this error is related to activy sinc not connected to the phone
17:55.01[acl]anyways folks. i gotta go get some lucnh.. brb
17:55.11segnalein fact I don't have windows mobile
17:55.27segnaleI been told I don't need win mobile to perfrom a task29 and update the radio
17:55.35segnalecan anyone confirm that?
17:55.36Alex[sp3dev]well active sync is not needed. it is evil. and you can try htcflasher instead of mtty
17:55.53arrrghhhsegnale, this isn't a support channel.
17:55.54segnaleok let me take a look
17:56.00segnale:S
17:56.03arrrghhhlol
17:56.08arrrghhhyou can flash task29 from sd as well
17:56.16arrrghhhbut again, not really within the scope of this channel :P
17:56.19segnaleI thought this channel support HD2 XD
17:56.27arrrghhhkernel development
17:56.31arrrghhhfor all sorts of devices
17:56.35segnalebut I little help would be much appreciate
17:56.35arrrghhhnot support
17:56.36segnale:D
17:56.37segnalealrigh
17:56.39segnalesorry
17:56.41segnale:D
17:56.42arrrghhh#htc-linux-chat
17:56.50arrrghhhthey support HD2, lots of HD2 folk hang out there.
17:56.52segnale<3
17:56.56honeycomb_suckswe don't know there anything about task29
17:57.08honeycomb_sucks:D
17:57.31Alex[sp3dev]honeycomb_sucks: cool nick btw
17:57.46honeycomb_sucksit's true
17:57.47honeycomb_sucks:)
17:57.53arrrghhhlol
17:58.36Cotulla:D
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18:12.44arrrghhhhoneycomb_sucks, what do you think about "ice cream"?
18:12.53arrrghhhsounds promising at least.
18:13.11Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: oh ffuuuuu
18:13.13MN--arrrghhh: to -chat xD
18:13.28honeycomb_sucksi like vanilla ice-cream
18:13.30honeycomb_suckschocolate sucks
18:13.33honeycomb_sucks:D
18:13.33Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: i have found the magic line in adsp.c that we need to add to properly register the servers
18:13.45jonpryoh yeah
18:13.48arrrghhhlol
18:13.50jonprywhat is that?
18:14.30Alex[sp3dev]static unsigned adsp_cid=0xfadefade; rpc_cb_server_client->cid=adsp_cid; and the second one is before calling register server. patching version. will add this to my dynamic stuff
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18:16.34jonpryjust seems like this is a lot of work if emwe already has it working
18:17.37Alex[sp3dev]well. if we do implement our patches properly once, we'll be able to upgrade kernel flawlessly. not to have this pain each time.. or rather, we can make a new subdir qdsp5_wince and just copy our stuff there and never ever touch it again
18:18.44jonpryi'm all for fixing it up. just fixing up something that already works
18:19.22Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: i wonder why the heck it works for emwe without this line. maybe it's just 5225 is too a specific amss version
18:19.28jonpryautobuild kernels have BATLOGGER?
18:19.42Alex[sp3dev]BUGLOADER?
18:19.54jonpry#define HTC_BATTERY_BATTLOGGER1
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18:26.28Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: here is what i've found. when registering a new server for incoming calls, it sets endpoint client id to the address of endpoint structure (actually, i think it just signifies it being random). for now i'll try to patch the cid for qdsp only but i wonder whether we might need to have 0xfadefade for every incoming endpoint on 5225. time will tell
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18:31.49viperadi am trying to install "ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo.012311" but after 3 bars of progress the setup goes back to choose location and says cannot be installed. i have about 1.45 GB free in all location except my device. PHONE Garmin-Asus nuvifone M10 WM 6.5.3
18:33.09viperadhelp
18:33.36viperadanyone??
18:34.11Alex[sp3dev]oh damn. the mach/msm_rpcrouter.h exports struct msm_rpc_endpoint, but the implementation is in smd_rpcrouter.h which is not included.. will qcom ever learn to write the code that is human-readable and doesn't break if you change one line?
18:35.35viperad<PROTECTED>
18:36.02Alex[sp3dev]viperad: no we cannot help because we're not developing for asus m10
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18:39.12Cotullalol
18:39.20viperadsame as htc touch pro 2
18:39.26Cotullaviperad: no we cannot help because we're not developing for asus m10
18:39.53Cotullait's stupid to put android in CABs
18:41.10viperadyes its correct but if it supports htc touch pro 2 it will run on my phone like all other games and apps i use which are ment for htc
18:41.50Alex[sp3dev]viperad: no it will not because your phone has different hardware and firmware
18:43.02viperad:-(
18:43.27viperadis there any other way to use android on my phone
18:43.49MN--viperad: go to the #xdandroid channel
18:45.09[acl]lol
18:45.44MN--ah doesnt have the right phone xD viperad no there is no other way
18:45.45Cotullalol\
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18:47.37Alex[sp3dev]"go to xdandroid" sounds like an insult ;)
18:47.47[acl]it does
18:48.01Cotullalol
18:48.10Cotullajob done, MN!
18:48.16Cotulla:D
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18:49.02MN--:D now back to honeycomb :P
18:49.36Cotullalol?
18:49.44Cotullatrolls transfromers to devs?
18:50.15Alex[sp3dev]i think he's just gone to troll google
18:50.43Cotullaokay
18:51.06Cotullaanyway google make bad things
18:51.22Cotullaall their code is shit
18:51.34Cotullalooking to MS code much nice...
18:51.43Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: qcom is not much better
18:51.50CotullaAndroid doesn't boots with wrong time
18:51.51Cotullaheh
18:52.11Cotullaqcom? u see only code aurora things. it sucks
18:52.13Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: what do you mean by "Android doesn't boot with wrong time"?
18:52.45CotullaI mean it may not boot if RTC time is wrong
18:53.01Cotullajust exception in java and logo-loops
18:53.06Cotullaepic story
18:53.16CotullaI remember that CE worked without working RTC at all :D
18:53.18Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: judging by how qcom security was broken back in msm7200 days and how amss crashes easily with wrong data, i think all their code is like that
18:53.40Cotullayeah
18:54.03Cotullaas well Android can stop to boot
18:54.10Cotullaif wrong configs for camera and etc specified
18:54.11Cotullalol
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19:19.20L_miller[acl] - looks like Nate. is on the same page as us now.. Thinking it is the SPL.
19:19.33[acl]he cant boot?
19:19.35[acl]damn nate
19:19.43L_millernope. He never really could.
19:20.00L_millerwith the new NBH
19:20.51NetRipperi've made a new captcha for htc-linux.org, if any of you experience any trouble editing the wiki, let me know
19:21.20[acl]NetRipper: thanks dood.. i was worried when i started seeing handbag links up there
19:21.40NetRipperhaven't removed all the spam yet
19:21.51NetRipperfirst lets see if the new captcha helps
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19:23.09Samsunguy~seen darkstone
19:23.14aptdarkstone <dtrack@kimoshi.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 31d 2h 31m 31s ago, saying: ':p'.
19:23.51NetRipperand oh yea, i also enabled email verification before you can edit pages... so anyone complaining they can't edit a page after register, needs to click the link in the email :)
19:28.12SamsunguyNot darkstone too :(
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20:24.02L_miller[acl] when did you get your TP2?
20:24.13L_millerand unlock it?
20:24.46[acl]i dunno
20:24.48[acl]i have 2
20:24.49[acl]who knows
20:25.10[acl]i know it was around the time sprint actually released 6.5 tho
20:25.18L_millerlol ok... This summer?
20:26.05L_millerI did mine around may... When I got my phone.
20:28.32[acl]was it this summer
20:28.34[acl]im not sure
20:28.38[acl]?
20:28.52[acl]i remember i got the phone and was like "finally 6.5"
20:29.00[acl]then unlocked it
20:29.52Cotulla:D
20:30.04CotullaI remember u was here already when I started porting?
20:30.16L_millerOk. I will have access to another sprint Tp2 this weekend.
20:30.25[acl]Cotulla: ahh man you want to go down memory lane?
20:30.36Cotullayeah :)
20:30.40Cotullau remember old days times?
20:30.48Cotullain end of June
20:30.50[acl]Cotulla: it seems like yesterday
20:30.55[acl]:-p
20:30.59Cotulla:P
20:31.06Cotullawe forgot to include some option to kernel
20:31.11Cotullaand it's why kernel doesn't start
20:31.15Cotullawe hack it whole night
20:31.17Cotulla:P
20:31.25[acl]i remember tyou guys had no ramconsole
20:31.30[acl]had to dump dmesg to sdcard
20:31.33Cotullayaya
20:31.34Cotulla:D
20:31.34[acl]ahh the good ol days
20:31.39Cotullagood old days
20:31.59Cotullau helped us a bit
20:32.00Cotulla:P
20:32.04[acl]i try
20:32.11[acl]then came the whole 3d nightmware
20:32.16[acl]and why we have nand today
20:32.17gauner19863d?
20:32.20gauner1986was not a nightmare
20:32.22gauner1986:P
20:32.22Cotullaheh yeah
20:32.26[acl]gauner1986, not for u
20:32.27[acl]lol
20:32.27gauner1986cotulla did it in two days
20:32.29gauner1986:P
20:32.32Cotullagau, he talk about RHO
20:32.37Cotullagau, no
20:32.42Cotullait was done by 1 hour
20:32.48gauner1986:D
20:32.48[acl]gauner1986: it was like 4 months for us to discover a dumb math error
20:33.05[acl]gauner1986: wasnt even me either it was bzo.. ahh bless his soul
20:33.40gauner1986haha :D
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20:37.18Cotullaepic
20:37.53[acl]i remember first time i logged in here
20:38.03[acl]someone told "get out of here noob"
20:38.08[acl]ahh the good ol days
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20:39.11Cotullaahh
20:39.16Cotulla<PROTECTED>
20:42.47Cotullanostalgia
20:42.53Cotulla:'(
20:43.40gauner1986:D
20:43.54gauner1986yeah.. noobs suck, sorry
20:44.06gauner1986:P
20:44.50[acl]all i wanted my my patch to get committed .. but i was told to go hang with the noobs .. not cool :-(
20:45.04Cotullawhich patch?
20:45.19[acl]wasnt even kernel .. i think it was rootfs
20:45.25[acl]actually
20:45.32[acl]it was lib hardware
20:45.36[acl]that bullshit for wifi
20:45.46[acl]hardware legacy?
20:45.48[acl]id unno
20:46.25[acl]ohh well
20:46.27[acl]i shall go now
20:46.33Cotullahehe
20:46.36[acl]time for a good meeting
20:47.15Cotulla01:09[acl]Dang .. so a guy hits the road for a few days and so much progress has been done. I'm trying to catch up with all the work thats been done with the batt status
20:47.29Cotulla:D
20:47.44Cotulla01:33NetRipperso no change when booting at 998mhz eh
20:47.44Cotulla01:33NetRippertoo bad
20:47.44Cotulla01:33gauner1986hmm
20:47.44Cotulla01:34gauner1986perhaps sth changes if you boot at 300 mhz? :)
20:47.46Cotulla:D :D :D
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20:47.51Cotullagau?
20:47.56gauner1986lol
20:48.02Cotullaremember? ;)
20:48.17gauner1986nah i never was a noob. must have been someone else
20:48.18gauner1986:D
20:48.35Cotullahttp://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&year=2010&month=4&day=6
20:48.38Cotulla:D
20:48.46gauner1986yeah
20:48.48gauner1986the old days
20:48.53gauner1986where noone really had a clue
20:48.59gauner1986and dev got stuck
20:49.11Cotullayaya
20:49.19Cotullastill 3 months  before :D
20:49.36Cotulla00:22gauner1986wah.. assemblercode...
20:49.36Cotulla:D
20:49.48gauner1986still true :D
20:49.54Cotulla;P
20:50.15NetRipperif you go back another year you'll probably see me saying the same line
20:50.16NetRipper:P
20:50.22Cotullaya
20:50.26gauner1986lol
20:50.48Cotullaoldscholl days
20:51.24NetRipper:)
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20:51.52CotullaAlex..
20:51.56Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: celebration time for me
20:52.02CotullaNetRipper, why logs so slow
20:52.04Cotullaand there bug
20:52.09Cotullaif u press onscreen controls
20:52.15Cotullait forgot one of parameter
20:52.19Cotullalike month year day
20:52.24Alex[sp3dev]ololo, finally pwned sound on 35
20:53.07NetRipperCotulla, the whole logging stuff needs to be rewritten... it's so slow because it's all in one table of a few million records
20:53.13NetRipperwith no decent stuff to index on
20:53.13NetRipper;)
20:53.24Cotulla:)
20:53.31Cotullaokay it's time to work
20:53.33Alex[sp3dev]NetRipper: O_o. why table at all?
20:53.50NetRipperAlex[sp3dev], how else will you save it in a database?
20:54.17NetRipperand please don't come with a file system solution
20:54.17NetRipper:P
20:54.29Alex[sp3dev]NetRipper: well, i dunno. i'd probably store them out of the db and compress. although that'd be even slower :P
20:54.44NetRippernah it's probably faster
20:54.50NetRipperif you'd save it by day
20:55.02Alex[sp3dev]by week
20:55.10Alex[sp3dev]or even month
20:55.37NetRipperi mean just like 20220223_htc-linux.log whatever :) it'd be faster to read a file
20:55.50NetRipperhowever i just host the original script which was running on another server
20:55.54NetRipperit did it this way
20:55.54Alex[sp3dev]but you'll have a lot of files
20:56.03NetRipperi never took the time to rewrite it
20:56.24NetRippergoogle doesn't properly index it either
20:56.37Alex[sp3dev]NetRipper: there is one big bug there
20:56.42NetRippertell me
20:57.15Cotullaone bug there: it's too buggy :)
20:57.22Alex[sp3dev]well, if you go from google, it doesn't pass year via POST, so you have to input manually to view the logs of past years
20:57.23NetRipperyea i'm curious about this one bug though
20:57.35NetRipperAlex[sp3dev], yea that's what cotulla mentioned
20:58.13NetRipperi'm rewriting that stuff so that you get urls like /htc-linux/2011/02/23
20:58.57NetRipperone thing at a time though... need to clear htc-linux of spam
20:59.07NetRipperwiki
20:59.14Cotulla;)
20:59.18Alex[sp3dev]gotta finish hacking in this sound support for 35 and commit... at least now ARM9 doesn't crash ;)
20:59.46NetRipperyou're working on it with markinus?
20:59.51Alex[sp3dev]nope
20:59.57Alex[sp3dev]i'm working on old devices
21:00.00NetRipperah ok
21:00.03CotullaMarkinus worked under 35 CM
21:00.07NetRipperyea
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21:41.51NetRipperAlex[sp3dev], just fixed those links so that they all contain chan/year/month/day
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22:43.27Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: just a word of a warning. make sure that memory banks sizes are multiples of 4 megabytes
22:43.27Cotullaoh
22:43.27Cotullathank u
22:43.27Cotulla4
22:43.27Cotullanot 2
22:43.27Cotullaor 8
22:43.27Cotulla:)
22:43.28Cotullawhy so limitations
22:43.28Cotullawhy they can't make it ONCE
22:43.28Cotullagood
22:43.28Cotullawith supported sizes up to one page 4096 bytes
22:43.35Alex[sp3dev]through pain and trial and via cyanogen patch i have found out that if you don't enable CONFIG_HOLES_IN_ZONE, then memory zones must be aligned on this boundary.. which rises two questions - why is it disabled by default and wtf is such crap not documented.
22:43.35Alex[sp3dev]but ok, gotta go take a shower. ttyl
22:43.36Cotullathey prefer to write rfkill from scratch instead of some real useful things
22:43.37Cotullaand then they call "very flexible kernel"
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22:44.24arrrghhhwtf apt
22:44.24arrrghhhapt die
22:44.24aptACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
22:44.31arrrghhhthere we go
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22:44.57Cotullaright
22:44.59Cotullaapt die
22:44.59aptACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
22:45.07Cotullaapt why u don't die yet?
22:45.07aptwhy not?
22:45.17Cotullaapt u collect die to queue?
22:45.30Cotullaand then process by blocks, right?
22:45.32Cotullaapt here?
22:45.32apthere is probably relative
22:45.45Cotullaapt how your life?
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22:45.58Cotullaapt do you like trolls?
22:45.58aptyes, I like trolls.
22:46.04Cotullaapt why?
22:46.04aptBecause!
22:46.06arrrghhhFOR BREAKFAST
22:46.10Cotullaapt you sure?
22:46.16MN--which troll :P
22:46.18Alex[sp3dev]i know who has trained apt
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22:46.24Cotullaapt you like arrrghhh?
22:46.29arrrghhhdoesn't
22:46.41Cotullaapt wtf?
22:46.41apthmm... wtf is what that's fine?
22:46.42Alex[sp3dev]apt what is Cotulla?
22:46.43aptmethinks cotulla is not AWOL anymore, yay!
22:46.57arrrghhhlol
22:46.58Cotullaapt what is LEO?
22:46.58aptrumour has it, leo is the master of the universe
22:47.04Cotullaapt right
22:47.05aptblah blah blah/spam spam spam/yaddayaddayaddayadda sis boom bam
22:47.17Cotullaapt what is RHO?
22:47.18aptCotulla: what are you talking about?
22:47.39Cotullastupid bot
22:47.40CotullaI remember
22:47.41Cotullaonce
22:47.49Cotullafew years ago I come to some chat at 4:00 night
22:47.55Cotullaand I ask somebody to help with windows
22:47.59Cotullawith HDD restore
22:48.02Cotullaand bot helped me
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22:48.09CotullaI did how he said and I got my data back
22:48.19arrrghhhlol
22:48.34MN--but this bot is stupid
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22:48.46Cotullayes :(
22:48.48Cotullawe need better
22:48.48Alex[sp3dev]apt how to troll?
22:49.05Alex[sp3dev]stupid bot. need to teach it howto kind of questions
22:49.07CotullaNetRipper,  can u install better bot for us? which will help us with development at leasy
22:49.38Cotullaokat I am porting battery/USB to RHO
22:49.44Alex[sp3dev]haha
22:49.51arrrghhhw00t
22:49.59arrrghhhCotulla, fix BT while you're at it :D
22:50.13CotullaI copied mahimahi BT files, it should work out of box
22:50.17arrrghhhUSB works
22:50.23Alex[sp3dev]gotta clean up and commit the fucking sound.. and wait for jonpry to rewrite keyboard support
22:50.23arrrghhhor are you doing something MAGLDR specific?
22:50.30arrrghhhor you're porting to .32 huh
22:50.51arrrghhhjust ignore me.
22:51.47Markinusis rhod bcm4329 or bcm4325?
22:52.16Cotullaporting to .32
22:52.31arrrghhhoic
22:52.52Markinus(only difference is wlan n in 4329, bu maybe other firmware needed as mahimahis 4329)
22:53.18Cotullathere common driver
22:53.39Markinusfirmware too?
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22:55.36Alex[sp3dev]does forced_servers sound like a good name for rpc servers registered early at boot? or raped servers would be a better name?
22:55.52stinebdrape is not appropriate
22:55.58stinebdthe politically correct term is sexual assault
22:56.20Alex[sp3dev]that's news for me. thanks for a lesson of english
22:56.35Cotullawhich kind of servers?
22:56.36stinebdi'm not sure if that's true
22:56.48Cotullastartup_servers
22:56.49Cotulla?
22:56.56Cotullaearly_servers
22:57.08Cotullaservers_for_inital_fuck
22:57.16Cotullainital_servers
22:57.27Cotullaboot_servers
22:57.30Cotullachoose ;)
22:57.42Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: for some reason, we need to register 0x3000fffe incoming endpoint to get sound on 5225. maybe only needed for wince boot, though
22:57.54Cotulla0x3000fffe?
22:57.59Alex[sp3dev]strange, right?
22:58.07Cotullaya..
22:58.48Cotullahm I saw it somewhere
22:59.59fakkeryou die 7 days after reading it
23:00.04fakkerbe careful
23:00.14Cotullaokay
23:00.26CotullaI won't look at it
23:00.45CotullaAlex can u coding without looking to code
23:00.46Cotulla?
23:00.50fakkeryou can, you're the only person who can
23:00.53fakkergogo Cotulla
23:00.57fakkerprivet Alex[sp3dev]
23:01.00Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: what do you mean by that?
23:01.08Cotullacode without looking to done stuffs
23:01.11fakker:D
23:01.20fakkerlike the matrix - all you can see is fire
23:01.21Cotulladone part if code
23:01.26Cotulla*of
23:01.30Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: huh. i've got no other sort of information on msm hardware
23:01.39CotullaI mean
23:01.42Cotullau close eyes
23:01.50Cotullaand type on kbd code
23:01.58stinebdwith enough alcohol, anybody can do that
23:02.00Cotullaand u open eyes on when u close file
23:02.53NetRipperCotulla, i don't control apt, so can't help you there.. i do have another talk-bot though, but she's more dumb than the average msdos text-adventure
23:02.58Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: well. i think i can, but only if i write it in one go. if i suddenly would realize that i want to add something at start, i think i'll have troubles.. but well. i think i can use vim to chear
23:03.02Alex[sp3dev]s/chear/cheat/
23:03.18CotullaNetRipper, bad :(
23:03.44Cotullau can use text search to cheat too ;)(
23:03.46NetRipperprogrammed in tcl, it can't be much worse
23:03.46Cotulla;)
23:04.01Cotullamaybe we need own bot
23:04.03NetRipperhehe
23:04.07Cotullawho will have deep knowledge
23:04.08NetRipperwhat don't you like about apt then?
23:04.13Cotullaabout our kernel
23:04.15NetRipperyou can teach apt lots of stuff
23:04.20arrrghhhhe wants it to answer all questions
23:04.27Cotullayeah, but his AI is poor
23:04.31NetRipperapt even supports adding new scripts to it
23:04.31arrrghhhbasically apt is going to replace Cotulla
23:04.33NetRipperon the fly
23:04.48Cotullahm
23:04.48NetRippersend apt a query with 'help' or something
23:04.58Cotullaapt query help
23:05.05NetRipperno /msg apt help
23:05.14Alex[sp3dev]apt what is the answer to the question of life universe and everything?
23:05.15aptAlex[sp3dev]: I think you lost me on that one
23:05.20NetRipperi'm starting to think the ms dos text adventures are more advanced :)
23:05.36Alex[sp3dev]apt: the answer to the question of life universe and everything is 42
23:05.36aptthat's too long, Alex[sp3dev]
23:05.43Alex[sp3dev]apt is crap
23:05.56NetRipperwhat is apt?
23:06.05Cotullaat the end I see few possible improvements
23:06.20Alex[sp3dev]in soviet russia, apt asks you questions
23:06.31Cotullayeah
23:06.36Cotullathis functionality also good
23:06.42arrrghhhlol
23:07.02Cotullaor maybe
23:07.04Cotullahe can
23:07.10Cotullatake questions
23:07.12Cotullaand ask in other channels too
23:07.16Cotullaand post answer
23:07.18fakkerlol
23:08.45NetRipperlol
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23:09.25Cotullabad idea>
23:09.26Cotulla?
23:10.19mesHi, is something wrong with linux-msm git? I get a corrupted object whenI try to pull
23:10.35Alex[sp3dev]mes: gitorious or ltg?
23:10.47mesgitorious
23:11.00Alex[sp3dev]gitorious sometimes fubars
23:11.33messomething that goes away?
23:11.43Alex[sp3dev]yeah
23:13.48mesOK, must have been lucky up till now
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