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00:17.28MassStashyea i asked and everyone got silent like i knew something they didnt....
00:25.08Markinusintrensting, hmm, the kernel sources would be nice . . .
00:26.15Markinushmm, whether there a new radio version too?
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00:40.49MassStashyo stine, http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2615&c=htc_tianxi_t9188_htc_huashan
00:40.57MassStash??
00:41.08MassStashoops from chan
00:42.46Markinushmm, it's a omap CPU
00:42.58Markinuscopletly different to HD2
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00:45.27Markinusdon'T think that we can use much of it . . .
00:48.27MassStashdef verified huashan was winmo sold device, n the fresh rom is n android rom....
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00:49.13Markinusyes, I know, thought we can use some stuff from it, but with this platform, not
00:49.36MassStashright, stine brushed me off cuz he thoguht it was already a droid
00:49.54MassStashso i wanted to make sure i wasnt crwazy...
00:50.12MassStashthat blows my mind tho for real
00:50.46MassStashi cannot believe htc released a different os rom for a winmo device
00:50.54Markinusyeah . .
00:50.58MassStash...
00:51.21Markinusbut hmm, it could be a nice uzpdate for a milestone 2 or so ;)
00:51.48MassStashi wanna kno what cotulla says
00:51.55MassStashthinks*?
00:53.35MassStashperhaps structure knowledge will point someone in the direction more affirmed
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00:56.56Markinushmm, to write it's "HD2's Chinese brother" on the page, is simple wrong, the device is very different
00:57.37SGYea, it has gold :D
00:58.36Markinusthe once same thing is the display size ;)
00:59.11SGHeh, it runs android right?
00:59.26Markinusno, normarly wince
00:59.34Markinusbut here is a offical android update
01:00.33SGOh, okay they kinda confused me casue they spoke as if it was like the hd2 but ran android
01:01.03Markinusthe specs are totaly different
01:01.17SGBetter, or worse?
01:01.28Markinusworse
01:01.34SGHeh
01:02.04SGDoes it have a kickstand?
01:02.30Markinusno idea
01:03.40SGIt didn't look attractive at all and they compare it to the hd2 :(
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01:09.38MassStashright but is android made to be plashed on to old winmo internals.....
01:10.15SGMassStash: yes (hd2)
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01:13.23Markinusthere is a new radio version in too, so they change all to android interfaces, nothing from wince left
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02:42.26arrrghhhTP2WisTilt2: heh good timing :P
02:43.10WisTilt2yo. man we got some rain today! not good to get that much that quick
02:43.40WisTilt2nasty thunderstorms also but none of our cell sites had a single issue thank god
02:44.00arrrghhhTP2Nice
02:44.19arrrghhhTP2Yea, cali seems like it's slowly sliding into the Pacific...
02:44.41arrrghhhTP2It was 65 and gorgeous here today ;)
02:45.06WisTilt270 here for the past few days then today wham, snow down to 1500ft
02:45.16WisTilt2crazy weather
02:45.28arrrghhhTP2Damn
02:45.44WisTilt2so looks like we made some improvements on the rhod 100 users?
02:46.03arrrghhhTP2Yea
02:46.08arrrghhhTP2Had mixed reviews
02:46.19arrrghhhTP2Wish I could weed out user error better :P
02:46.40arrrghhhTP2You'd think with all these years of practice i'd have it down.
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02:47.18arrrghhhTP2I had some odd results myself, so who knows.
02:47.23WisTilt2are they still having the panel not reinit or is it hit or miss?
02:47.50arrrghhhTP2Well I think they all were able to wake eventually
02:48.04arrrghhhTP2Some just had more failed wakes than others.
02:48.43WisTilt2anyone notice improvement on panel wake for the other rhods?
02:48.45arrrghhhTP2I had some failed wakes myself
02:48.58arrrghhhTP2Well at first I thought you squashed it
02:49.13arrrghhhTP2But it's almost back to how it was after a full day of use.
02:49.23arrrghhhTP2Some wakes are ridiculously fast tho
02:49.33arrrghhhTP2So that's probably why I thought that heh
02:50.04arrrghhhTP2So like 10-15% of the time I have to touch the panel to wake it.
02:51.21WisTilt2if you're going to be around for a few and want to try a test, i want to change something in the vregs during power up/down and see if the panel comes up every time.
02:51.31arrrghhhTP2Sure
02:51.41arrrghhhTP2Should probably switch to my pc heh
02:52.21WisTilt2give me a few and ill put up an image to try
02:52.40arrrghhhTP2Just finished setting up a new rig for browsing the web thru my tv... once I'm done wrestling with visualizations my media setup is "complete"
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03:06.09WisTilt2arrrghhh: image ready.  its the other name we used last week
03:06.51arrrghhhkk
03:07.20WisTilt2fcd4446b409c2ad98e867a52b55aa615 just to be sure
03:07.45arrrghhhlol i am bad about that :P
03:08.00stinebdheh
03:08.02WisTilt2and dont forget wget:)
03:08.11WisTilt2hey mr stinebd
03:08.23stinebdhi
03:08.23arrrghhhlol
03:17.10WisTilt2brb, need to switch to the laptop
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03:20.12WisTilt2much better. a lot more comfortable on the couch
03:20.46arrrghhhkernel just booted
03:21.43WisTilt2after it settles down let it sleep and try wake/sleep a few times and see if anything is different
03:22.04arrrghhhindeed
03:22.10arrrghhhso far not significantly different
03:22.13arrrghhh2 wakes so far
03:22.23arrrghhh1 took about 2s to wake fullly
03:22.29arrrghhhother was basically instant
03:22.38arrrghhh#3 took ~5s..
03:23.06stinebdoh god, it's a fibonacci sequence
03:23.10arrrghhhi'd say 10 in 100 wakes is bad.
03:23.11WisTilt2curious if you get any wakes that you have to touch the screen or not
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03:23.28arrrghhhwe'll see
03:23.29L_millerMassStash!
03:23.33arrrghhhthey're certainly rare.
03:23.46arrrghhhdamn.  just had one
03:23.51arrrghhhsee me eat my words
03:23.53arrrghhhyou want a dmesg?
03:23.54AstainHellbringhi
03:24.02WisTilt2how long you leaving it in sleep each time?
03:24.11arrrghhhjust a few seconds
03:24.15arrrghhh10 at the most
03:25.00arrrghhhyea if i let it sleep longer, it seems to wake up easier
03:25.04arrrghhhif that makes sense.
03:25.16WisTilt2the fact its still coming up with this code pretty much confirms a theory I had.  need to get with bzo and probably jb and do some brainstorming
03:25.30arrrghhhk
03:25.48WisTilt2if you leave it off for 10-15 at minimum does it seems to wake 100% of the time?
03:25.56arrrghhhso far
03:26.38arrrghhhstinebd wants me to test something as well, so gimmie a min.
03:26.48stinebdget cracking!
03:26.52arrrghhhlol
03:26.53stinebdi don't have all night here
03:26.55arrrghhhi'm only one man!
03:26.57arrrghhhsure you do.
03:27.02stinebdoh yeah
03:30.33WisTilt2stinebd: while he's testing, what in system.ext2 can be changed that makes the device go into sleep almost immediately do you know?  asking because i noticed when i tried that froyox image a month or so ago that whatever he did made it sleep within 1-2 secs.  might be related to the panel wake that works better after its been in sleep longer.
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03:31.35stinebddefine "go into sleep almost immediately"
03:31.41stinebdas in screen turns off in 2 seconds?
03:31.59WisTilt2no, device actually hits full suspend quicker
03:32.12WisTilt2green light usually less than 2secs
03:32.15stinebdwell if anybody knew that, it'd be fixed :P
03:32.44WisTilt2i can make it sleep instantly in the kernel but microp doesn't like it and doesn't always come back up
03:33.33stinebdi would imagine it's some difference in hardware/msm7k
03:33.47stinebdhe's using a proprietary system image though so we might never know
03:34.28WisTilt2proprietary?
03:34.44stinebdhe's hacking up a rom from a huawei device
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03:36.11WisTilt2interesting.  i might play with microp suspend timing and see if we can get it to suspend quicker.  normally its around 5secs before microp suspends but there are times that something changes and it changes to 30secs from then on until next reboot.
03:37.42jonprywhat def config are the using on .35?
03:38.16AstainHellbringhi jonpry
03:38.25WisTilt2hey there jonpry.  i have no idea on that one
03:39.19jonpryhey guys
03:39.33stinebdi think arrrghhh took our work and ran
03:39.38stinebdhe's gonna sell it on the black market
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03:39.57WisTilt2lol, supplemental income
03:42.09WisTilt2jonpry: got a problem with this ring buffer for battery.  in sleep we lose ram?  my buffer contents are lost after resume so chasing that
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03:42.36arrrghhhblack market apk's are worth their weight in GOLD
03:43.01jonpryWisTilt2, how do you lose ram. seems like everything would not work :p
03:43.47WisTilt2yeah you'd think.  might be a pointer problem, thats what im verifying now
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03:47.22arrrghhhwhew.  booting gb with your changes stinebd and that new test kernel WisTilt2
03:47.28jonprynow i know your all wondering what it is like to compile the kernel on 8 cores
03:47.52arrrghhhi'd imagine it'd be a lot like blinking
03:48.01jonpry75 seconds
03:48.08arrrghhhheh
03:48.40WisTilt28cores?  you get one of those fancy new machines my son has been trying to get me to buy for his office computer?
03:48.41stinebdwhy so long? did you get some kind of budget computer?
03:49.09jonprywell its quad hyperthreaded
03:49.14arrrghhhah
03:49.17stinebdpfft
03:49.21arrrghhh4 physical cores.  4 logical
03:49.27jonpry8 logical
03:49.42arrrghhhmeh you know what i mean :P
03:50.00jonprynot bad for laptop though
03:50.12arrrghhhindeed
03:50.52AstainHellbringjonpry gotta love i7 eh?
03:51.21jonprywell i7 sandybridge anyways
03:51.29arrrghhhrecalled?  heh
03:51.35jonpryindeed
03:52.16AstainHellbringwow sandybridge huh
03:52.41AstainHellbringeh no need for recall if they only using 2 sata ports
03:52.47AstainHellbringits the extra above that that has issues
03:53.28jonpryyeah hdd is on the 6.0gbps, and there is slot for SSD that is the other 6.0. so optical and esata both on 3.0
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03:53.49AstainHellbringnice what lappy you have jonpry?
03:53.56jonpryand my dmesg is loaded with link failures with the optical i never use
03:54.10jonpryy560p
03:54.26AstainHellbringahh ideapad
03:54.28AstainHellbringnice
03:55.08jonprytnx
03:55.31WisTilt2i bet you can say you have the faster computer on the island
03:55.56arrrghhhlol
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03:56.18jonpryi say it all the time :p
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03:57.30AstainHellbringhopes a new thinkpad comes out with sandybridge and a hell of a lot better gpu cooling
03:59.26jonprybiggest problem is that it does not run linux very well
03:59.46arrrghhhjonpry, seems a lot of new laptops have that problem.
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04:00.01AstainHellbringjonpry what issues do you have?
04:00.04arrrghhhmy neighbor got a new stupid dell, and his wlan card does not place nice with linux at all.
04:00.26jonpryacpi is fubar
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04:00.57jonpryto get it not to freeze all the time i had to set some stupid option that seems to turn most of acpi off, so it idles at 75C
04:01.07arrrghhhWisTilt2, got some feedback on the kernel i posted (not the one you're having me test)... RHOD300 user with an SoD log.
04:01.38arrrghhhWisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/J6MbcFUq
04:02.41jonpryto get it not to freeze all the time i had to set some stupid option that seems to turn most of acpi off, so it idles at 75C
04:02.47jonpryoops
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04:05.53arrrghhhWisTilt2, had another failed wake, this time after the phone was sleeping for at least 2 mins.
04:08.09WisTilt2arrrghhh: that rhod300 log looks like the same lockup thats been going on forever.  just freezes up and nothing in log before it indicates a cause
04:08.10jonpryhmm, where is this new haret for .35
04:08.22jonpryi'm getting smashed on no initrd
04:08.22arrrghhhWisTilt2, probably charger related too.
04:08.34arrrghhhWisTilt2, do you want a dmesg from my phone with the failed wake?
04:08.46WisTilt2i looked for that and dont see that he put it on charge during that time
04:09.03WisTilt2yes on your log.  did you have to touch it to bring it up?
04:09.10arrrghhhnot every time
04:09.23WisTilt2i mean when it failed to wake
04:09.33arrrghhhoh yes.  sorry.
04:09.40arrrghhhsometimes i just let it fail if that makes sense.
04:09.47arrrghhhjust ignore it and let it go back to sleep, just to see if it ever wakes.
04:10.01arrrghhhi'm a little slower than usual today, sorry :P
04:11.07arrrghhhhttp://pastebin.com/3drt5jFp
04:11.18arrrghhhlast wake was probably from adb, so the wake before that was a 'failed' wake.
04:14.38arrrghhhfood time
04:14.39arrrghhhbbl
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04:30.27jonprystupid initrd
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04:35.11arrrghhhWisTilt2, holy hell this sleeps fast.
04:35.24arrrghhhnot sure if it's your kernel or gb
04:35.35arrrghhh2s
04:36.18WisTilt2probably combo of both
04:36.34arrrghhhblame stine for making me test gb
04:36.39arrrghhh:P
04:36.50arrrghhhstill can't get over how fast it is...
04:38.13WisTilt2arrrghhh you know where jonpry can dl that new haret? i didn't even know there was a new one:)
04:38.26arrrghhhjb's thread
04:38.40arrrghhhi guess he said if you add too many drivers it blows up?
04:38.44arrrghhhlet me get the link 1 se
04:38.44arrrghhhc
04:39.13jonpry.35 doesn't seem to work no matter what drivers
04:39.40arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883966
04:39.44jonpryoO
04:39.49arrrghhhharet.zip is attached to the post
04:39.52WisTilt2jonpry: not the same problem i had last night is it?  i had to update my toolchain, built fine but crashed on boot
04:40.11jonpryno, problem i had since i first tried it
04:40.19jonprysomehow it clobbers the initrd on decompress
04:41.39WisTilt2so arrrghhh, does panel wake more consistently with gb and this kernel by chance?
04:41.51WisTilt2or was that log with gb?
04:41.58arrrghhhthat log is gb
04:42.03arrrghhhand yes it seems to
04:42.15arrrghhhneed to test it for longer tho to get a better feel
04:42.34arrrghhhlol then i have another failed wake.  always wakes when i touch the screen tho.
04:42.45arrrghhhseems every time i mention how i've never had a failed wake, it fails.
04:42.57arrrghhhmight be more frequent than 10 in 100 tbh.
04:43.16WisTilt2can you look at your dmesg right after that happens and see if you see any microp write errors around that timeframe
04:45.17arrrghhhwhat exactly am i looking for?  I don't see any write errors...
04:45.30rpierce99WisTilt2: is msm_i2c error what you're looking for?
04:45.37arrrghhhmicropklt, i2c write retry
04:46.09WisTilt2yep thats it
04:46.17jonpryhmm, looks like JB's haret is jamming it at 0x608000, but linux-msm 2.6.35 is going for 0x800000
04:46.55rpierce99just before the line arrrghhh just posted I get msm_i2c.0: error, status 63c8 and msm_i2c.0: Error during data xfer (-5)
04:47.02arrrghhhditto
04:47.07arrrghhhnot sure if those are the failed wakes or not tho
04:47.18arrrghhhit looks like it's every wake i see those errors honestly.
04:48.08jonpryhmm, fsck
04:48.09WisTilt2really?  that is showing up out on every wake?  is it before or after the mddi client on?
04:48.22rpierce99I also have one that is status c8, but that is likely a successful wake
04:49.17arrrghhhwait
04:49.24arrrghhhi have those every time it sleeps..
04:49.40arrrghhhbrightness going from 3 to 0
04:49.50arrrghhhends at 0 and then i get the msm_i2c errors
04:49.53WisTilt2you have autobl on or off?
04:49.55arrrghhhon
04:50.01jonprywow, it actually booted android
04:50.04arrrghhhwell
04:50.05arrrghhhs/b on
04:50.10arrrghhhlet me doublecheck, it is gb
04:50.11WisTilt2jonpry on .35 kernel?
04:50.16jonpryyeah
04:50.25arrrghhhdamnit i lied.
04:50.29arrrghhhi was on manual bl...
04:50.55rpierce99I get c8, then 0 -> 3, then 3 -> 0, then 63c8
04:51.16WisTilt2you on manual bl also?
04:51.28rpierce99yes, just reloaded and never turned auto back on
04:53.08WisTilt2im on autobl and have sleep/wake a dozen times and not seeing those errors.  i need to look at that and see whats happening in manual mode.  might be when it hits the value 0
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04:54.03arrrghhhWisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/Vpr04Pef
04:54.28arrrghhhthat is from tail end of a sleep to a full failed wake cycle - didn't touch to wake it at all, to the end of that sleep.
04:55.08jonpryits kind of like phone on steroids, but i'm thinking its timer is not set correctly
04:55.16arrrghhhi definitely notice more failed wakes with manual bl WisTilt2
04:55.19arrrghhhtry it yourself...
04:55.42arrrghhhheh.  just had a failed wake with autobl on.
04:56.33WisTilt2but you're seeing it more often in manual mode?
04:57.50arrrghhhhrm maybe not.
04:58.04arrrghhhi can't decipher my dmesg as easily now
04:58.50rpierce99fwiw I don't see any fewer failed wakes with auto on (granted it hasn't been much time) but I don't get those errors on autobl in my dmesg
04:58.51arrrghhhsdslot_switchvdd: Invalid VDD 17 specified <--- what is that
05:00.05WisTilt2normal, as far as its been there a long time
05:00.19arrrghhhk
05:00.29arrrghhhwell nothing's jumping out at me when it's on autobl
05:00.34arrrghhhhad a couple of failed wakes
05:00.37WisTilt2hate to have you try another kernel but try this one, same name
05:00.43arrrghhhnp man
05:00.52arrrghhhthrow as many kernels as you want at me, that's what i'm here for :D
05:01.05WisTilt2i want to see if your display when failing to wake displays anything now
05:02.25arrrghhh872be44db14a69214e73091366382943
05:02.38WisTilt2dont freak out if the screen looks like it broke:)
05:02.41WisTilt2yes correct image
05:02.50arrrghhhlol
05:04.46WisTilt2it should only display weird stuff when it doesn't wake to the normal unlock screen, if i coded it correctly:)
05:05.01arrrghhhinteresting
05:05.46arrrghhhalright back to froyo
05:08.43WisTilt2basically, im trying to see if when the panel doesnt wake if its actually the panel itself or fb.  if you see my other display instead of the unlock screen then we need to look at timing again.
05:09.28WisTilt2you will see something on the screen every single time, it just may not be the correct screen every time
05:12.30WisTilt2jonpry: is it possible that an allocated buffer address is being remapped by arm9 in sleep? i verified my pointer is still what it was when i allocated the memory but the contents are gone after sleep.
05:12.49jonpryare you just using kalloc?
05:12.55WisTilt2yes
05:13.01jonprythen no
05:13.50arrrghhhfirst wake failed
05:13.53arrrghhhhad some red lines
05:14.03arrrghhhflickering red lines...
05:14.09WisTilt2hmm, i wrote all zeros, put it to sleep, and got random junk at wake
05:14.33WisTilt2flickering red lines?  did you ever get the unlock screen?
05:14.44arrrghhhwell this is interesting.
05:14.51arrrghhhi get the haptic feedback, but doesn't wake ever
05:15.03arrrghhhi just shoehorned an auo panel on my rhod400 :P
05:15.23WisTilt2but you're seeing red lines?
05:17.58arrrghhhi did once
05:18.00WisTilt2jonpry: there's no way something else would be writing to an already allocated buffer would there?  that's what it looks like is happening, the values in it are different after each wake.
05:18.01arrrghhhhaven't seen 'em since.
05:18.16WisTilt2so panel is like its powered off?
05:18.37WisTilt2or is backlight coming on
05:18.39jonpryit could be an overrun or something
05:18.39arrrghhhi see the backlight
05:18.40arrrghhhbut that's it
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05:19.50WisTilt2arrrghhh go ahead and reboot and ill make another change to try.  thats plain weird
05:21.29jonpryWisTilt2, maybe your code is alloc'ing every time?
05:23.05arrrghhhWisTilt2, ok
05:24.12WisTilt2jonpry: im doing the alloc at panel detect and setting a flag so it only happens 1 time but good point, it could be the flag logic isnt right
05:24.57WisTilt2actually, then my buffer full of zeros should be there each time since they're written after alloc
05:25.08jonpryor try kzalloc
05:26.53jonpryapparently you only get one .35 boot
05:29.13WisTilt2arrrghhh: fa8ce9e166d41afdb1a7310290ec2f50 try this one
05:29.56WisTilt21 boot trial period?  stopping in same place again?
05:29.56jonpryarrrghhh, i have a problem
05:30.02arrrghhheh?
05:30.15jonpryhad to reboot phone via reset button
05:30.22jonprybecause .35 didn't have keys
05:30.48jonprynow .35 reboots on boot, and .27 hangs at boot animation
05:31.03arrrghhhblast out data.img?
05:31.03jonprywell not hang, just never get out of animation
05:31.17jonpryhmm, what does that do?
05:31.20jonpryjust delete it?
05:31.22arrrghhhyea
05:31.26arrrghhhresets everything basically
05:31.33jonpryi don't really want to lose all of my programs
05:31.42arrrghhhheh
05:31.45arrrghhhtitanium backup?
05:31.49arrrghhhbut you can't boot
05:31.54arrrghhhyou can rename it
05:31.55arrrghhh.bak
05:32.00arrrghhhjust to see if it works
05:32.04jonpryf&*(
05:32.29WisTilt2i got tired of that myself so just got everything how i like it and copied my data.img to external drive so just have to put it back
05:32.55arrrghhhi actually paid for titanium backup.
05:32.58arrrghhhi figured i was using it so much
05:33.12arrrghhhand getting sick of hitting install done install done
05:33.13WisTilt2does it save everything?
05:33.18jonprymaybe we need separate ext3 partition for data
05:33.25arrrghhhyup
05:33.31arrrghhhext3?
05:33.32jonpryi mean, why do we keep making shit for ourselves
05:33.40jonpryyeah, journalled
05:33.50arrrghhhi thought that would slaughter sd cards
05:34.01jonpryno failure on crash, potential data loss, but always consistent
05:34.09jonprypfff, i use swap on sd
05:34.17arrrghhhWisTilt2, same.  it was fine until i put it to sleep.
05:34.19arrrghhhnow it won't wake.
05:34.40arrrghhhi have to work @ 4:30 tomorrow... so it's bedtime.
05:34.51WisTilt2hmm, your phone returns 0x14 panel type right?
05:35.04arrrghhhyea
05:35.09arrrghhhi should be able to adb
05:35.46jonpryarrrghhh, what if removing data doesn't work?
05:35.49arrrghhhPanel type detected: 14
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05:36.09WisTilt2np. we'll work on it tomorrow night.  thanks for the testing
05:36.35arrrghhhhappy to oblige
05:36.42WisTilt2jonpry that should fix it.  something in data.img gets trashed and loops at ani screen
05:36.47arrrghhhshoot me an email if you do have anything for me.  thanks man!
05:36.52WisTilt2will do
05:37.01arrrghhhg'nite guys
05:42.52jonprygoing for the gold here, .35 with buttons
05:44.44jonpryor not
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05:56.08jonprywtf, this is same crap like ages ago
05:56.20jonpryfreezes in framebuffer
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05:58.45WisTilt2jonpry: well im giving up for tonight.  same random junk in buffer so need to look at it again with a non-frustrated frame of mind.  good luck on .35
05:58.57jonprythanks, ttyl
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13:26.17jonpryhi emwe
13:26.56emwehi jonpry. just noticed i did send my reply to you instead of the list. a bit irritating that the reply-to is not the list as one is used to.
13:27.24jonpryi got one boot of .35 into froyo
13:27.38jonpryso initrd is working anyways
13:27.54emweyap, read the logs.
13:27.59jonprythen i enabled rhodium-keypad
13:28.06jonprywell the gpio button part of it anyways
13:28.11jonpryand now nothing works
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13:28.39jonprybut it doesn't seem to matter if i revert
13:29.55emweit just worked for me on topa. the only thing i added was the power key stuff from msm-gpio.c or howerver that is called in .27
13:30.30emweso you can't even boot anymore?
13:30.35jonpryno
13:31.08jonpryits like clocks or pll are messed up
13:31.13jonprysomething is not stable
13:31.29emweyou got the feeling wince is also sluggisch?
13:31.35jonprysometimes it won't even get to initrd without panick
13:31.52jonprysometimes it panic's before boot anim
13:32.04jonpryand other times is reboots in the middle of anim
13:32.13emwei have done a "billion" boots with .35 since now to frx04 and gbx0a
13:32.16emwehm
13:32.24emwecan you adb?
13:32.26jonprybut on topaz
13:32.36jonpryno it doesn't live long enough
13:32.55emweyou should have adb short before bootanim. at least that is what i see here
13:33.20emweof course, the early trials was dumping ramconsole content to see what breaks.
13:33.38jonpryi'm pretty sure it is random
13:33.39emweusing haretscripting for that.
13:33.53jonpryfrom the crashes before anim, i could see some of them
13:34.09jonpryone was an ext2 panic
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13:34.14emwewhat i can tell is, that i get sometimes pppd alloc failures. it's a known issue though, but shouldn't kick in until you see userland
13:34.21emwehm, never saw stuff like that
13:35.09emwetried replacing system.img again?
13:35.23jonpryno, but .27 seems to run it
13:35.44emweat least data doesn't seem to like my often reboots. sometimes, but less often, system img doesn't like it either.
13:36.05emweyou're also building with 2010.09-50 toolchain?
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13:36.49jonpry2010-4
13:38.16jonpryis that a known bad one?
13:42.42emweoh, i think i've used the one from 2009 before. and then directly jumped to 2010.09-50 a longer while ago without issues.
13:43.31emwehttp://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1600
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13:45.40jonpryi guess that is easy enough to try
13:46.20emwewhat else do i do... i strip symbols from modules ...
13:46.30emwebut that's what likely everbody is doing.
13:46.59jonpryi'm not using any modules
13:47.51emweah
13:48.02jonprydo you get the hangs with half screen of text?
13:48.19emweno, everything just fine.
13:49.14jonpryhow do you put initrd at 10MB if source is configured for 8MB?
13:50.17F22i'm using 2010.09-50 too,  haven't gotten around to trying to build .35 yet however.  jonpry, have you tried turning off panic_on_oops in init.rc? that might allow you to get in with adb.
13:51.07jonpryF22 no, i will look into that
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13:51.25emwejonpry: don't ask from where i got that offset. i think i took it from alex. source configured for 8mb means?
13:52.05jonpryfind | xargs grep -I initrd
13:52.06jonpry./Makefile.boot:initrd_phys-y:= 0x10800000
13:52.23jonpryebi1+8
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13:55.31emwejonpry: that's the default address where to look it up i assume. but haret should pass the right offset to kernel, no?
13:56.56emwe./arch/arm/boot/compressed/.vmlinux.cmd:cmd_arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux := arm-none-linux-gnueabi-ld -EL    --defsym zreladdr=0x10008000 --defsym initrd_phys=0x10800000 --defsym params_phys=0x10000100 ......
13:57.04jonprythat would make sense to me, but the fact that these new harets are required as with the initrd offset in starup.txt suggests otherwise
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13:58.32emwethe allow different placement of initrd as the kernel got bigger if i understood it right. if it had always been placed at 8mb then what's wrong?
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13:59.41jonpryi dunno, i will try moving it
14:00.04emwezImage for .35 is 2.11mb here. a .27 is 1.64mb
14:00.25emweand i also had the overwritten initrd issue at the beginning
14:00.43jonprywell, its uncompressed size that matters
14:00.45emweuntil i set the initrd offset. (been using a git compiled haret before)
14:00.58emweyes, so for .27 it just works, for .35 not i guess when uncompressed
14:01.00jonpryand if your using zImage, i think zImage + Image needs to be < initrd
14:01.27emwei think so, yes.
14:01.35emweso, i gotta leave. some shopping ahead.
14:01.42emwewill probably be back this evening.
14:01.54jonpryk, cya
14:01.58emwehave fun.
14:02.25emweand if you are bored, make the zoombar virtkeys like on topa :)
14:02.42emweah no. you don't need that... you got arrow keys on the keyboard...
14:02.48emweanyway, bye.
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17:44.59jonpryemwe only has topaz?
17:45.34Cotullahey
17:45.39Cotullahow is it?
17:45.48jonpryit goes
17:45.53gauner1986hi cotulla
17:45.56jonpry.35 not stable on rhod
17:46.04Cotullahaha
17:46.18CotullaI am up with 32
17:46.45jonpryall drivers?
17:47.00Cotullanot yet\\
17:47.12jonpryi booted frx04 on .35
17:47.19jonprynow it won't work again
17:47.28Cotullabtw
17:47.30Cotullawhat about camera
17:47.36Cotullathere 'd' thing
17:47.40Cotullabut driver only for 't'
17:48.21jonprynot sure. JB has patches or something
17:48.32Cotullawhat about userspace library
17:48.34Cotullawhich function it do?
17:48.57jonpry?
17:49.10Cotullauserpsace camera library
17:49.25jonprywhat about it
17:49.41Cotullawhich kind of functions it have inside?
17:50.35jonprydon't know
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17:52.34opterzHey Cotulla
17:53.29opterzI reckon 8260 and 8660 is coming only at the year end..
17:53.42opterzGuess it might be a long wait for u?
17:58.44Eriksoncamera all things work except flash and make zoomed pictures
17:59.10Cotullavideo recording also?
17:59.18Eriksonah no
17:59.48Eriksonstill only simple pictures
18:00.16Eriksonviruscracy want to port it to the main tree first
18:00.55Eriksonso we have the working functions for now
18:02.24Eriksonanyhow working great on topaz
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19:40.33pupnik_http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Catholic_Youth_Ministry_Jobs
19:40.42Cotullabags?
19:40.42gauner1986lolwat
19:40.45Cotullalolw00t
19:40.50BazGeehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7At3RlQAFU
19:40.59pupnik_http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Weight_Watchers_Buy
19:41.21gauner1986hm
19:41.47gauner1986i wonder if samsungs strange Exynos is good for sth
19:41.50gauner1986:)
19:42.02gauner1986thought it has 8260
19:45.43pupnik_http://www.infosyncworld.net/resources/products/htc/htc_inspire_4g_s018.jpg
19:45.50pupnik_lol @ the suckage of htc cameras
19:56.30pupnik_http://www.infosyncworld.net/resources/products/htc/htc_inspire_4g_s05.jpg
19:56.33pupnik_owww
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20:02.54[acl]didnt know louis vuitton ran msm
20:02.55[acl]:_p
20:04.13bzohey [acl]
20:04.18Cotullahey
20:04.27bzohey Cotulla
20:04.32Cotullahey bzo
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20:06.29[acl]sup fellas
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20:07.09bzo[acl] any ideas about that weird offset screen problem with Alex clocks?
20:07.10Alex[sp3dev]what's up [acl]
20:07.17[acl]sup dood
20:07.19Alex[sp3dev]bzo: whut?
20:07.30[acl]bzo: nahh.. u talking about raph ?
20:07.38bzoraph800+diam500
20:07.45RaiderXhi
20:07.49Alex[sp3dev]bzo: maybe.. the mdp clock is wrong
20:07.51bzoAlex, after some use, the whole screen shifts left 25% on those devices
20:07.59Alex[sp3dev]try to use the value from kovsky or blackstone then
20:08.02[acl]bzo: prob panel clock.. u know alex loves to butcher regs on the fly
20:08.07[acl]:-p
20:08.09Alex[sp3dev]raph800 should have the same epson chip
20:08.40Alex[sp3dev]bzo: also. make sure you do proper panel init/deinit. afair most of code is commented out for them
20:08.42Cotullahey Alex
20:08.43[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: you know what it might be ? .35 panel code change. Not sure if we moved them to mddi_simple where you have to specify the rate there. Or not
20:08.55Alex[sp3dev]hey Cotulla
20:09.08bzoAlex, the problem started after your clocks got committed in dec
20:09.14bzoso I dunno if it is the source of problem
20:09.19bzoor expose an existing one
20:09.40[acl]bzo: hmm im playing around with clocks and i have a raph.. so i'll look into it. im planning a patch anyways
20:09.42Alex[sp3dev]bzo: try different values in the panel file. and make the proper panel init/deinit
20:10.02Alex[sp3dev]ok, time to rewrite the microp
20:10.12bzo[acl] easiest way to repo is run fps2d, after running 3-5 times in a row it will show up
20:10.13[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: microp is ur job bro..
20:10.30[acl]bzo: cool.. ill look into it
20:10.56bzo[acl] so r u going to use the alex clock reintegration patch?
20:11.21[acl]bzo: we have to right ?
20:11.54bzowell, we don't have to, but I assume that is what we want to build on going forward
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20:12.19[acl]bzo: i mean we moved to alex clocks to clean up the old mess so might as well go back to that. Its easier to work with and u already send the patch out last i saw my email
20:12.20bzoeven if we move to using mostly clock regime, that will still be the fallback right?
20:12.39[acl]case statements are cleaner than the gangbang ifs we have now
20:13.06[acl]i had luck with the regime so far tho.. but mapping them was a bitch
20:13.33Alex[sp3dev][acl]: mapping? you mean you have removed those ugly hardcoded defines?
20:14.12[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: defines ? i didnt see any defines on the regime . but i removed that whole loop to look for values.
20:14.29RaiderXanyone got any sugestions for porting omap3 rom to msm?
20:14.37Alex[sp3dev]RaiderX: i have one
20:14.43Alex[sp3dev]RaiderX: just do not do it
20:14.47RaiderXlol
20:14.58RaiderXim tryin to port gingerbread sense 2.3 rom to DHD
20:15.38Alex[sp3dev]what's the point in porting precompiled binary stuff? isn't it like building CM7 from scratch brings less pain?
20:16.05Cotullaheh alex in his well know words
20:16.15Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: ok, in your words now
20:16.18RaiderXcant use CM stuff in a sense rom
20:16.21Cotullain my words?
20:16.31Cotullahe will port this gingerbread in 2-3 hours
20:16.43Cotullawhen u will rebuild CM second time, because u forgot to setup right compile flags
20:16.44RaiderX2-3 hours? lo
20:16.44RaiderXl
20:16.45Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: "it comes from omap and you have msm. that will bring you bugs and HOLY HTC will not appreciate of it"
20:17.04Cotullasource code need compilation
20:17.07Cotullaright defines
20:17.10Cotullaright libraries
20:17.12Cotullaetc
20:17.24Cotullabinary code doesn't need all this
20:17.29RaiderXconcidering msm7x30 and omap3 are arm-v7
20:17.32Alex[sp3dev]yes. but once that's done, you can always build *automatically*, without messing with stuff
20:17.34Cotullathere many cases when binary code is better
20:17.41Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: not with android
20:17.46RaiderXso binarys are compatible
20:17.48RaiderXits just drivers
20:17.54Cotullabinary is binary code. it worked and will work with right env
20:17.59Alex[sp3dev]the prelink thing will be a pain in the ass if some libs are overlapping
20:18.54Alex[sp3dev]but you are right. in most cases, drivers are not prelinked.. so it will be ok
20:19.23Cotullaokay word with microp them I will steal ur work :D
20:19.27Cotulla*work
20:20.06Alex[sp3dev]ok.
20:21.57Alex[sp3dev]i've got a brilliant idea
20:22.16Cotulla?
20:22.41Alex[sp3dev]we can just register microp clients as platform devices. if they will depend on EXPORT_SYMBOL entries, then the kernel will automatically resolve the module dependenices
20:23.00Cotullabad idea
20:23.14Alex[sp3dev]why?
20:23.16Cotullathis "automatically" maybe not work or work badly
20:23.22Cotullaor it maybe changed in next version
20:23.35Alex[sp3dev]no. it was designed *only* for that.
20:23.47Cotullapass it via platform data
20:23.52Alex[sp3dev]ok
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20:26.18[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: ugly defines you mean the numberson the case statements ? lol
20:26.36[acl]fucking wince .. cant keep their numbers the same
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20:26.39Alex[sp3dev][acl]: yup. replace them with numbers from clock.h
20:26.42stinebd[acl]: fyi i'll be issuing a cease & desist for that nand release within 72 hours
20:27.08[acl]stinebd: talk to my lawyer
20:27.10[acl]:-p
20:27.28[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: im trying
20:27.43stinebd[acl]: for the future, i prefer stinebd@xdandroid.com for professional correspondence ;)
20:28.43[acl]stinebd: ahh ok.. i just went with what i had on file
20:28.56Alex[sp3dev][acl]: so you have released that shit?
20:29.02stinebdalso i've been meaning to start merging the bring-up logic into the system image for a while now. so i'm definitely interested in your work.
20:29.14[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: to the cookers.. let em mess with it.. i dont have time for shenanigans
20:29.19Alex[sp3dev]stinebd: what about dropping rootfs ?)
20:29.30stinebdAlex[sp3dev]: that's what i just said, yes.
20:29.48Alex[sp3dev]and keeping keymaps and shits in /system, without symlinks, right?
20:29.52stinebdright
20:30.01stinebdi want to get rid of rootfs altogether
20:30.17stinebdsince it's all stable (except for stuff that we ripped out of system image to begin with)
20:30.18[acl]stinebd: 0 rootfs.. we had to kill it.. so study that bad boy
20:30.27pupnik_is there a qwerty htc that can have 3d support in linux?
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20:30.40stinebdrhodium :P
20:30.41[acl]who the fuck is spamming the wiki
20:30.48Alex[sp3dev]stinebd: he said in linux
20:31.03stinebdmsm driver still doesn't do 3d?
20:31.06pupnik_i'm seeing some progress for sgx drivers
20:31.19Alex[sp3dev]pupnik_: why not buy n900 if you want linux and 3d?
20:31.29jonpryandroid is not in linux?
20:31.37Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: no it is not
20:31.40stinebdoh god don't start this again
20:31.43jonpry:p
20:31.51pupnik_Alex[sp3dev]: am-doing
20:32.09pupnik_just peeking over the fence.  hi - nice to meet youse
20:32.51pupnik_and i appreciate anyone who is doing work for mobile linux
20:32.57Alex[sp3dev][acl]: send me the link to your nand build.. although it's unlikely i'll be able to test soon
20:33.37stinebdwho runs the wiki?
20:33.48Alex[sp3dev]stinebd: the apache web server does
20:33.54[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: no problem bro.. ill send it yo ur email
20:34.08[acl]wiki is under spam attack
20:34.13[acl]unless we are selling handbags
20:34.19[acl]then i guess its all good
20:34.19stinebdi've managed to stop the spam on our wiki and am willing to offer tips :P
20:34.21Alex[sp3dev][acl]: aren't we?
20:34.39stinebdour = xdandroid
20:34.55[acl]ahh .. im tlaking baout the linux-msm wiki
20:35.17stinebdhtc-linux?
20:35.41[acl]http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Louis_Vuitton_Handbags_-_Imitated_But_Never_Equaled
20:35.45stinebdyeah
20:35.50stinebdthat's why i'm willing to offer tips to the admin
20:36.05stinebdone extension and a couple localsettings changes and it stops
20:36.09[acl]netripper ?
20:36.16Alex[sp3dev]phh: are you here, the lucky tegra pwner?
20:36.23phhyeah
20:36.44Alex[sp3dev]phh: is opengl and dsp supported in 'normal' gnu/linux distros?
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20:37.29Alex[sp3dev]then i'll have to envy until either of these appear here.. although i'd prefer omap4
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20:46.19LordDeathbecause kernel 2.6.38 supports squashFS with lzma compression
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22:33.18reactor16hi
22:33.32reactor16is radio fm working on linux htc devices ?
22:33.57MN_depends which device
22:34.05MN_it works on leo
22:35.14reactor16what i want is a information about radio on linux, i there way to play with frequency range of fm radoi ?
22:35.26reactor16radoi = radio, sorry.
22:36.09MN_look at the htc-linux wiki for info
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22:36.47reactor16understand my question ?
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