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00:47.58 | knight21244 | hello I just downloaded the 2.2 Blazn to my HTC TP2 and I have not activated the phone yet so I do not have data on it yet and it says that the launcher pro needs updated and it won,t let me go past browser page asking me to download the update I have downloaded the new version on my computer but I need to know where to cut and paste the old and new one at please help thanks. |
00:54.28 | knight21244 | um hello I need some help please |
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01:53.33 | Tplane37 | have some input on the <ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo.012311.cab> and the issues installing it |
01:54.45 | Tplane37 | I had the same issues as a couple other users in the forum, but I do not know exactly where the issue lies, so I will share what I did to get it installed on my tp2... if it is okay with you guys ... so that someone a little more experienced can pin point the issue |
01:55.50 | Tplane37 | I am refering to the issue of "MJG Project Android Rebuild" cannot be installed |
01:56.42 | Tplane37 | what I ultimately had to do was install <ProjectAndroid2.1AOSP.061610.cab> (which installs flawlessly) |
01:57.43 | Tplane37 | and then BEFORE I ran Haret.exe for the first time, I had to manually move all of the files from <XDAnroid2.2Froyo.012211.rar> to their appropriate locations on the SD Card |
01:58.13 | Tplane37 | in the process, I manually deleted everything in <\conf> prior to putting the appropriate Froyo file in there |
01:58.52 | Tplane37 | then, after replacing everything, I ran haret, it was then, and only then, that I was able to complete the installation and run the froyo |
01:59.44 | Tplane37 | I am sure I have extra files that the froyo zImage, root, and module are not using on my card, and I fear I am going to run into stability issues due to how I installed this... but I thought I would share my findings |
02:00.34 | Tplane37 | when examining the two cab file mentioned above, the main difference (desides the obvious file comparisons) is that the Froyo cab did not contain a <_setup.xml> |
02:01.13 | Tplane37 | which in my experiences in WinMo, this can sometimes be an issue as it confuses the device as to where it is supposed to put the files, and ultimately can result in the same error some users are reporting |
02:02.05 | Tplane37 | hope this helps find a result, I may or may not have the time throughout the week to write a setup.xml for the froyo cab to see if that is the key issue on the cab installer, but I feel that it may be the root of the installation issue |
02:03.53 | Tplane37 | non the less, I am rather impressed with the work that has been done on xdandriod to date. I must extend my gratitude to the devs that have devoted the countless hours into the project. I just wish I could have had the time to devote to learning the OS back when discusions first started on running android on the TP2 |
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02:17.44 | AstainHellbring | Tplane37 hey dude |
02:17.56 | Tplane37 | yo |
02:18.11 | Tplane37 | what have you been up to lately? |
02:19.02 | AstainHellbring | not much working hard |
02:19.10 | Tplane37 | know the feeling |
02:19.15 | Tplane37 | on thrids now |
02:19.19 | AstainHellbring | still doing the ranch thing? |
02:19.23 | Tplane37 | 10 hr nights and 6 nights a week |
02:19.27 | Tplane37 | trying to |
02:19.31 | AstainHellbring | damn |
02:19.40 | Tplane37 | but landlord aint cooperating on getting the barn roof done |
02:19.57 | AstainHellbring | went into work at 9:30 last night stopped working at like 4:30 in the morning |
02:20.02 | AstainHellbring | damn landlords suck |
02:20.32 | Tplane37 | this is the first time I have play with droid on my TP2 |
02:20.43 | Tplane37 | ...different... could get used to it ;) |
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03:38.03 | WisTilt2 | jonpry! very long time no see. how goes it with you? |
03:39.00 | jonpry | got a new computer :p |
03:39.12 | jonpry | how is it with you? i've been utilizing your work |
03:40.01 | WisTilt2 | busy on our device thats about to go to certification in less than a month. how ya doing on your device project? |
03:40.47 | jonpry | rev1 pcb should be arriving soon. its done being made, but shipping is complicated. i'm almost finished designing plastics. |
03:41.36 | WisTilt2 | sounds like you've come a long way. interested to see it. |
03:41.50 | jonpry | i'll keep you informed |
03:41.55 | WisTilt2 | you still down in carribean? |
03:41.59 | jonpry | yep |
03:42.41 | WisTilt2 | nice. i need a vacation down there for a month or so lol. thinking of taking my wife down to our old stomping grounds in Saint Martin for a few weeks this spring. |
03:42.56 | jonpry | ah, i hear its nice there |
03:43.05 | jonpry | can get blown away by the jets |
03:43.33 | WisTilt2 | french side is pretty quiet, dutch side is pretty crowded |
03:43.53 | jonpry | they have a cheapo med school somewhere |
03:44.28 | WisTilt2 | airport is on dutch side so we'll hang out in Marigot. no med school when we lived there but that was almost 25yrs ago |
03:44.56 | jonpry | why did you go back? |
03:45.47 | jonpry | the rum is not nearly as cheap in the us |
03:45.57 | WisTilt2 | wanted to have my kids back here in us for school. they were 3 and 5 when we were down there and they went to a dutch school but not what i wanted them to go through older. |
03:46.38 | WisTilt2 | damn, rum was so much cheaper than normal things like milk when we lived there. cigars also:) |
03:46.48 | jonpry | yes, the expats children who have grown up here are always a sight |
03:47.39 | jonpry | always end up being sailors :p |
03:48.04 | WisTilt2 | lol yeah not what my kids would fit into well. |
03:48.33 | WisTilt2 | so you been following all the progress on this project? |
03:49.00 | jonpry | i've been informed periodically |
03:49.13 | jonpry | some camera'sh stuff |
03:49.21 | jonpry | better 3d. people messing with .35 |
03:49.31 | jonpry | RIL is fubar |
03:49.48 | jonpry | powerman sux |
03:50.30 | jonpry | but people have foregone all the progress in favor of a broken gingerbread build |
03:50.40 | WisTilt2 | yeah ril needs rewrite. im rewriting pm the past few days. with panel collapse, which i need to commit still, we're far under 1% per hour in sleep. |
03:51.04 | jonpry | what is panel collapse? |
03:51.38 | jonpry | bringing it down like a ton of bricks? |
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03:51.44 | WisTilt2 | i fixed all the mddi init/dinits in board file to do full power down |
03:52.19 | WisTilt2 | huge savings in power with that. i see .5% and with a pm change a couple nights ago im seeing 2% every 8hrs:) |
03:53.09 | jonpry | hmm. i'm getting about 30 hours on my phone now. i think its a pretty recent kernel |
03:53.13 | jonpry | 7 days old maybe |
03:53.50 | jonpry | is there someway to do suspend to sd card? |
03:54.17 | WisTilt2 | i havent committed any of this stuff yet, only had numerous testers try it on rhod 210-500. i gave bzo my code and he got close to 70hrs on his phone and dont think it was fully discharged yet. |
03:54.52 | jonpry | gimme! |
03:55.18 | WisTilt2 | sd card is kinda being shutdown from what im seeing but havent examined it fully yet. |
03:55.31 | jonpry | i mean turn off ram |
03:55.38 | jonpry | and maybe even processor :p |
03:55.55 | jonpry | i guess we power down a11 as it is |
03:56.21 | WisTilt2 | well, arm11 is fully powered off, cant turn off arm9 though without losing everything for calls and data |
03:56.33 | jonpry | but ram |
03:57.36 | jonpry | ram is useless |
03:58.24 | WisTilt2 | would have to isolate some of the background stuff to fully shut down ram i'd think. will arm9 still run like that? dont know if any ram is being accessed with any background data or ril stuff in suspend. |
03:58.50 | jonpry | i think a9 runs out of smem |
03:59.13 | jonpry | cause we can clobber all of ebi1 and ebi2 assuming you don't want 3d, sound, etc |
04:00.05 | WisTilt2 | isnt there something like 110mb or so used by ebi1 and 2? |
04:01.13 | WisTilt2 | as long as we init it back up in resume it shouldnt matter i guess. |
04:01.55 | WisTilt2 | pretty much whats happening with panel collapse now. fully power down and all registers are just reconfig'd on wake |
04:02.00 | jonpry | iirc we have used close to all of the sdram at somepoint, it just killed some services |
04:04.12 | jonpry | looks like ram should use about 15-30ma to keep allive |
04:04.16 | WisTilt2 | bzo's pll fix for overclocking helped a lot so sleep mode 0 and 1 can run now. |
04:04.58 | WisTilt2 | damn, thats quite a bit of drain... could write ram image to sd card on suspend and reload it similar to hibernation |
04:05.00 | jonpry | which in theory is close to your 70 hour consumption rate |
04:05.39 | jonpry | but i honestly do not understand this datasheet |
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04:06.43 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's up. just read your email |
04:06.43 | WisTilt2 | well reducing 15-30ma is certainly worth taking a look at that for sure |
04:07.01 | WisTilt2 | hey arrrghhh. nice find there mr tester |
04:07.07 | arrrghhh | heh |
04:07.13 | arrrghhh | i wasn't able to confirm it tho |
04:07.16 | WisTilt2 | i told you the problem was userland:) |
04:07.31 | arrrghhh | hahaha yea i bet stinebd is thrilled. |
04:07.37 | arrrghhh | seems even native android devices have issues with it |
04:07.40 | arrrghhh | but not like we do. |
04:07.50 | arrrghhh | basically whenever you touch the screen, system_server spikes. |
04:07.56 | WisTilt2 | i did. frx04, both F22 rootfs and frx04 rootfs, my kernel, not a single issue since then |
04:07.59 | arrrghhh | which i confirmed as well... very odd process, this system_server is. |
04:08.06 | arrrghhh | huh. |
04:08.11 | arrrghhh | well JIT causes other insane issues |
04:08.17 | arrrghhh | and disabling it squashed those bugs. |
04:08.17 | WisTilt2 | thats normal as long as it doesnt keep it pegged like before |
04:08.18 | arrrghhh | go figure |
04:08.33 | arrrghhh | well i don't think it should be normal |
04:08.48 | arrrghhh | there was posts about people saying it's not optimized blah blah |
04:08.59 | arrrghhh | their friends can't port their iphone games to android because of it |
04:09.00 | arrrghhh | etc |
04:09.30 | stinebd | spiking is normal on touch, considering the cpu is probably scaled down at first, and you've got input handling, plus the inevitable surfaceflinger action as a response, etc |
04:09.32 | WisTilt2 | the way JIT works it makes sense why that problem went away. the other problems it caused are timing issues i bet |
04:09.43 | arrrghhh | stinebd, agreed |
04:09.52 | arrrghhh | something has to spike to process that input |
04:10.12 | arrrghhh | well JIT isn't optimized for our proc arch |
04:10.19 | arrrghhh | no love for armv6 |
04:10.24 | stinebd | jit isn't supported whatsoever for armv5te |
04:10.26 | jonpry | WisTilt2: nm i think it is 5ma or so. but only at 1.8v. however it might be possible to shutdown the whole freaking 1.8v rail |
04:10.55 | jonpry | i thought we had armv6 |
04:11.17 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: does it power off the common rail or have its own? |
04:11.29 | WisTilt2 | rhod is armv6 |
04:12.09 | jonpry | WisTilt2: i'm not sure what else is on it. but 1.8v is potentially not used for anything but ram |
04:12.28 | WisTilt2 | and light sensor reference voltage:) |
04:12.41 | WisTilt2 | but thats in panel hw |
04:12.43 | jonpry | who needs that |
04:13.07 | WisTilt2 | i do lol. i rewrote all the lcd autobl code outside of microp so fully in panel now |
04:13.28 | jonpry | unless radio is running on it, everything else can just be turned on later |
04:13.59 | jonpry | er, for that matter, putting ram into powerdown is 10ma |
04:14.11 | jonpry | aka shutdown ebi1 clock |
04:14.47 | WisTilt2 | ram has no suspend mode other than killing the clock? |
04:15.30 | jonpry | theres some timing to it. but its more or less, don't use it for a while, do something with CKE, then stop the clock a certain polarity |
04:18.39 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: i did some tracing after hearing about the JIT deal and with JIT off, during network registration there is runaway code, with JIT on it is fine. thats why the traps i set in binder were showing all those buffer allocation errors saying there was no memory available. dont know if that helps or not but thats the jist of whats happening. |
04:20.15 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: is panel waking all the time now with JIT on? |
04:20.22 | jonpry | you guys want to turn it back on? |
04:20.53 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: with it off its pegging system_server nearly every boot |
04:21.35 | jonpry | i dunno. seems like it was *way* more broken before it got turned off |
04:22.08 | arrrghhh | yea |
04:22.17 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i've been running gb |
04:22.23 | arrrghhh | and panel wakes beautifully |
04:22.33 | arrrghhh | keep getting soft resets to winmo tho |
04:22.41 | arrrghhh | i'm assuming kernel panics, gonna pull that poop |
04:22.59 | jonpry | is gb w/ JIT? |
04:23.04 | stinebd | arrrghhh: still no system_server issues in ginger? |
04:23.05 | WisTilt2 | see if you're seeing more of those division by zero's in kernel with gb |
04:23.23 | arrrghhh | stinebd, not a ONE |
04:23.30 | stinebd | gingerbread has no jit |
04:23.39 | jonpry | what?! |
04:23.41 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, that whole "end call without a call" shows up in every log if you noticed. |
04:23.52 | stinebd | gingerbread also has no sensors |
04:23.55 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what msg am i lookin fer |
04:24.00 | arrrghhh | yea gb is missing quite a bit |
04:24.06 | arrrghhh | i was showing it off today lol |
04:24.10 | stinebd | arrrghhh: have you tried froyo without sensors? |
04:24.19 | stinebd | and without jit |
04:24.31 | jonpry | you mean no JIT, likes its not on or doesn't work, not that it isn't possible? |
04:24.37 | arrrghhh | no |
04:24.45 | arrrghhh | stinebd, i've never tried froyo with no sensors... |
04:24.48 | stinebd | not on, might work but haven't tried |
04:24.48 | arrrghhh | so just remove the libs? |
04:24.59 | stinebd | just remove /lib/froyo/hw/sensors.default.so |
04:25.01 | stinebd | from rootfs |
04:25.13 | stinebd | or misplace it |
04:25.19 | stinebd | whichever you prefer |
04:25.21 | jonpry | i hate sensors |
04:26.17 | stinebd | sensors is one of a few big showstoppers before gingerbread release |
04:27.06 | jonpry | exciting times |
04:27.15 | jonpry | honeycomb? |
04:27.22 | jonpry | er es2.0 |
04:27.24 | arrrghhh | other than the email thing |
04:27.28 | arrrghhh | the browser thing |
04:27.33 | stinebd | what's the email thing? |
04:27.37 | arrrghhh | and the complete lack of sensors |
04:27.40 | arrrghhh | gb is awesome |
04:27.51 | arrrghhh | stinebd, every email i open goes to a black screen, then back to main email. this is a gmail addy |
04:28.04 | stinebd | in the gmail app? |
04:28.06 | jonpry | lol |
04:28.12 | arrrghhh | yessir stinebd |
04:28.13 | jonpry | just install k9 |
04:28.14 | stinebd | good |
04:28.16 | stinebd | k9 is better |
04:28.33 | arrrghhh | k9 eh |
04:28.38 | arrrghhh | never heard of it lol |
04:28.43 | arrrghhh | is an android noob still |
04:29.05 | jonpry | its not your fault, you have a winmo phone |
04:29.08 | stinebd | easily one of the most elegant push-capable mobile email clients |
04:29.13 | arrrghhh | jonpry, lol |
04:29.21 | arrrghhh | i'll check it out, thx |
04:29.32 | arrrghhh | always open to ways of doing things better |
04:29.54 | stinebd | and it integrates with saymyname |
04:30.08 | stinebd | so when i'm in public people can hear when i get viagra spam |
04:30.42 | jonpry | i tried to get k9 people to add an unattended emailing feature today |
04:30.45 | jonpry | they didn't like it |
04:31.00 | jonpry | won't accept my patches |
04:31.17 | arrrghhh | lol |
04:31.27 | stinebd | fork it |
04:31.33 | stinebd | k9x |
04:31.40 | jonpry | k9 spam outlet |
04:32.11 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea... lots of kernel panics. do you want the logs? |
04:32.34 | WisTilt2 | yes please |
04:32.40 | stinebd | is that expected to be a rhod-only thing? |
04:32.40 | arrrghhh | kk |
04:33.12 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/c5wSs7BS <--- last_kmsg from the last reboot |
04:34.20 | WisTilt2 | what kernel is that? |
04:34.29 | arrrghhh | last one you threw me |
04:34.30 | stinebd | tiad8's super kernel |
04:34.34 | arrrghhh | lmao |
04:34.39 | WisTilt2 | very last? |
04:34.42 | arrrghhh | yup |
04:34.47 | arrrghhh | unless there's a newer one... |
04:34.55 | arrrghhh | sorry it didn't have the beginning |
04:35.00 | arrrghhh | i have LOTS more... 1sec :P |
04:35.16 | stinebd | oh god, he's gonna need a pastebin for all the pastebin urls |
04:35.44 | WisTilt2 | damn, stinebd: did you add more led notification stuff in gb by chance? |
04:35.51 | stinebd | no |
04:36.25 | arrrghhh | there's a SYSTEM_TOMBSTONE |
04:36.28 | arrrghhh | lol |
04:37.12 | WisTilt2 | well i can tell you your not getting kernel panics from the battery code like before |
04:37.29 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, Fri Feb 4 23:03:31 PST 2011 |
04:37.37 | arrrghhh | is the build date of the last kernel you gave me. |
04:38.07 | WisTilt2 | yes thats the last one where i removed the binder traps |
04:38.07 | jonpry | still working on camro's divide by zero's? |
04:38.17 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/Lex68kjD |
04:38.28 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: just started working on them, just noticed them a few days ago actually. |
04:38.30 | arrrghhh | another last_kmsg in my dropbox. i've got... several, let's put it that way :P |
04:39.13 | stinebd | WisTilt2: if you want to play around with the mess that is gingerbread i can link you to the same testing image arrrghhh has |
04:39.24 | jonpry | WisTilt2: if you want to work on that kind of stuff, i am well versed in how to make a working battery meter |
04:40.06 | arrrghhh | jonpry, please do! camro did good work on the algo, but i don't think he really finished implementing it... |
04:40.11 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: that would be helpful. it almost looks like notifications are triggering code in the kernel that doesnt exist yet |
04:40.29 | jonpry | bleh, i think his whole plan is not grounded in reality |
04:40.37 | arrrghhh | lol |
04:40.44 | arrrghhh | i can't speak to that unfortunately. |
04:41.14 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: yes i figured you would be. maybe we can tackle it next week if you're up to it. |
04:41.29 | jonpry | he refused to do even the simplest thing, like calculate the impedance of the battery |
04:41.47 | stinebd | big words |
04:41.48 | jonpry | let alone calculate the charge dependent impedance |
04:41.58 | arrrghhh | more big words |
04:42.03 | jonpry | i'm sure wistilt2 knows what i mean |
04:42.14 | arrrghhh | :P we know what you mean, but i don't think camro did. |
04:42.19 | stinebd | ohm my goodness |
04:42.21 | stinebd | runs |
04:42.22 | arrrghhh | lol |
04:42.27 | jonpry | lol |
04:46.20 | WisTilt2 | not to mention full charge is set all the time so battery never hits 100% in reality i noticed and is far from accurate until its well under 90% or so |
04:47.04 | jonpry | imho the big problem is that it won't work with different batteries/aging batteries |
04:47.42 | jonpry | answering a question like wtf is up with this particular battery is complicated. and he did all of that work, but its mostly for his battery |
04:48.36 | arrrghhh | yea, it seems quite inaccurate. it also goes back to 100%, but we've talked about that :P |
04:48.50 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
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04:48.57 | arrrghhh | so battery meter is perfect for him |
04:48.59 | arrrghhh | what's up bzo |
04:49.07 | arrrghhh | which is ironic, as his battery is kaput... |
04:49.12 | jonpry | lol |
04:49.19 | WisTilt2 | if you plug it into a charger 500ma or higher the battery never really hits full charge even though it reports 100% |
04:49.27 | bzo | hey argrghhh, damn tired, driving all day |
04:49.35 | arrrghhh | heh that sucks |
04:49.45 | arrrghhh | i shoveled snow and stuffed my face while watching football. not a bad day. |
04:49.52 | stinebd | all at the same time? |
04:49.54 | stinebd | impressive |
04:49.57 | jonpry | duh, cause at such high currents, the impedance is a huge part, and he doesn't compensate for it |
04:50.00 | arrrghhh | stinebd, they were separate. |
04:50.07 | jonpry | hey bzo |
04:50.19 | stinebd | less imprsesive |
04:50.22 | bzo | hey jonpry, good to see you back |
04:50.27 | arrrghhh | jonpry, he doesn't compensate for any peripherals either. |
04:50.37 | arrrghhh | stinebd, yea... i'm not very impressive. |
04:50.46 | stinebd | ok i'm tired and i work tomorrow. time for bed |
04:50.58 | jonpry | cya |
04:50.58 | arrrghhh | g'nite |
04:51.14 | WisTilt2 | nite stinebd: ill test your link |
04:51.15 | jonpry | bzo, you got the cam working? |
04:51.23 | stinebd | WisTilt2: thanks |
04:51.40 | bzo | jonpry: yeah, though jbruneaux fixed most of the tricky stuff |
04:51.48 | jonpry | do tell |
04:52.12 | bzo | well the first thing which is not so tricky I guess is that we forgot to enable the vfe rail |
04:52.33 | jonpry | i thought there was concerted effort to do that |
04:52.45 | bzo | the tricker thing which jb did a lot of tracing to fix was some dsp incompatibility |
04:53.12 | jonpry | you hacked the qcamlib? |
04:53.14 | arrrghhh | he did some awesome work, for phones he does not have. |
04:53.35 | bzo | there were some problems on the kernel side |
04:53.47 | bzo | which actually ended up being fixed in newer kernels |
04:53.53 | jonpry | :p |
04:53.58 | bzo | but he figure out the fixes before we realized that |
04:54.10 | bzo | the binary lib also required some patching |
04:54.28 | jonpry | thats impressive work |
04:54.43 | jonpry | not merged in though? |
04:54.45 | arrrghhh | jerome did some incredible work |
04:54.53 | bzo | that was the dream lib |
04:55.00 | arrrghhh | even got 5mp working on blackstone |
04:55.04 | arrrghhh | but no commits to main tree |
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04:55.09 | bzo | he subsequentyly moved on to a newer lib that is not compatible, but patched it to make it so |
04:55.18 | arrrghhh | madman |
04:55.27 | bzo | no, not merged, yet and there is a lot of stuff piling up in his branch |
04:55.38 | arrrghhh | indeed |
04:55.47 | jonpry | binary patches. RMS please save us |
04:56.05 | bzo | yeah, it sucks |
04:56.31 | bzo | but we seem to be doing more of it lately. We're running patched 3d qcom libs now too |
04:57.25 | jonpry | gralloc has been going on for a long time no? |
04:57.39 | arrrghhh | got patched recently |
04:57.44 | bzo | yeah, but we compile gralloc |
04:57.45 | arrrghhh | with libgles |
04:58.03 | arrrghhh | you don't compile that... do you? |
04:58.07 | bzo | the qcom lib is hard coded for hvga framebuffer size which we need to match to gralloc |
04:58.13 | jonpry | i guess i have not seen this whole process |
04:58.38 | jonpry | never got to work on 3d, because i didn't understand any of it really |
04:59.20 | bzo | so saw you mention earlier you're almost done with your tablet? |
04:59.24 | jonpry | so you have source for gles and gralloc |
04:59.38 | bzo | only gralloc, it's part of the android build |
04:59.45 | bzo | the qualcomm gles stuff is closed |
05:00.09 | bzo | and really, the gralloc stuff does almost nothing |
05:00.14 | jonpry | :p |
05:00.25 | bzo | just a layer to manage some graphic memory allocation |
05:00.26 | jonpry | yeah my tablet it coming along. building rev1 now |
05:00.37 | jonpry | rev0 was not terribly successful though |
05:01.20 | bzo | so what kind of initial production qualities do you have to order for a batch? |
05:01.29 | bzo | s/qualities/quantities |
05:01.38 | jonpry | i just buy one pcb, and sometimes get 2 |
05:01.58 | bzo | how about the plastics and other hardware? |
05:02.00 | jonpry | i solder the bastards together down here in the 3rd world |
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05:02.31 | bzo | you have a reflow oven? |
05:02.39 | jonpry | well, the plastics i am going to have prototyped SLA |
05:03.00 | jonpry | i have a toaster oven and a flashy controller |
05:03.06 | jonpry | w/ thermocouple |
05:03.33 | bzo | I'm amazed at how resiliant surface mount stuff can be |
05:03.47 | bzo | I upgraded the memory in my router the other day just using a jet lighter to desolder and reflow the new part |
05:03.52 | jonpry | bigger problem is the assemble. paste print is easy. but bga requires blind and accurate, one shot one kill |
05:04.09 | jonpry | lol |
05:04.40 | bzo | so how do you align the bga stuff? |
05:04.42 | jonpry | slash i could not solder the omap3 |
05:05.30 | jonpry | i soldered the fpga and 2 ddr memories, just using no paste, high temp and lots of flux |
05:05.45 | jonpry | but the omap3 has unique problems |
05:06.02 | jonpry | like almost half of the chip has no balls |
05:06.06 | jonpry | and there .65mm |
05:06.39 | jonpry | at least i think this is the cause. and the gas pressure from the flux seems to lift the mother up and it goes for a ride |
05:06.56 | jonpry | like it just shot right off of the board |
05:07.09 | bzo | damn, I can barely deal with pins I can actually see on the smd stuff |
05:07.45 | jonpry | i'm going to add weight the next time around |
05:08.01 | jonpry | like double the chips weight somehow |
05:08.15 | bzo | so are you just aligning the chip by eyeing it? |
05:08.22 | jonpry | i also tried epoxying little guides around it |
05:08.34 | jonpry | since i'm not using paste, its not one shot one kill |
05:08.52 | jonpry | i have special silk screen to allow alignment |
05:10.03 | jonpry | http://imagebin.org/136527 |
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05:11.05 | bzo | damn man, how many bga parts do you have on there? |
05:11.06 | jonpry | i think there are 10 bga's on it |
05:12.30 | bzo | is that picture something like a 2x magnification? |
05:12.36 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: impressive. you have a local company setup to do the board etching or have to send it off? |
05:12.47 | jonpry | pcb-pool |
05:13.33 | jonpry | i spent some years trying to start a pcb-fab, but that is a long story |
05:13.38 | WisTilt2 | so you just pay a flat rate for X number of blanks during proto? |
05:13.53 | jonpry | they charge by the sq/in more or less |
05:14.02 | jonpry | no point in qty, just spin more revs |
05:15.32 | jonpry | but i'm thinking 6 layer may not cut it anymore |
05:15.55 | bzo | 8 is more typical for something like this, no? |
05:15.56 | jonpry | bzo: i'm not sure about the mag. but the board is like 3x4" |
05:16.22 | jonpry | at least. its mostly that my power plane is too sliced up |
05:16.31 | jonpry | i could use at least 3 more |
05:17.04 | jonpry | but i am far too lazy to use a 3d field solver to figure out what will go wrong |
05:17.31 | bzo | what software are you using for schematics and layout? |
05:18.13 | jonpry | orcad capture and pcb editor |
05:20.39 | bzo | orcad looks pretty high end |
05:20.45 | jonpry | i'm guessing the reason for not slicing up the planes is so that you don't need a 3d field solver |
05:21.24 | jonpry | there really not much software that will do serpentine routes and such |
05:21.28 | jonpry | altium |
05:22.54 | bzo | guess eagle is not going to cut it :) |
05:23.32 | jonpry | no, probably not |
05:25.00 | jonpry | imho all the tools are pretty dumb |
05:26.02 | jonpry | i really like SPICE, and its the only thing that is free |
05:27.25 | bzo | can't remember the last time I used that |
05:27.37 | bzo | probably not since I was in school |
05:27.38 | jonpry | kicad is actually a reasonable tool for drawing, but the autorouter is a piece |
05:27.49 | jonpry | what do you do now? |
05:27.58 | jonpry | just sw? |
05:28.22 | bzo | yeah, funny enough my degree is EE, but all I've done since then is software |
05:28.32 | jonpry | thats usually the story |
05:28.40 | jonpry | i'm CS, but all i do is hardware |
05:28.47 | bzo | lol |
05:29.02 | bzo | though sometimes I wonder if I should have been a mech e |
05:29.16 | bzo | I find it more satisfying to make something tangible |
05:29.37 | jonpry | EE is a better degree, lots of good calc and phys. CS is more like combinatorics and statistics |
05:30.21 | bzo | at least in my computer engineering specialty, there was a ton overlap |
05:30.37 | bzo | if I wasn't lazy, I could have gotten a double major by taking 2 more courses |
05:31.32 | bzo | of course if I wasn't lazy maybe I would have tried the other disciplines |
05:31.42 | bzo | they are much harder |
05:31.43 | jonpry | for sure |
05:32.19 | jonpry | i've seen a lot of idiot programmers, but never an idiot engineer |
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05:32.48 | bzo | I suppose coding is something you can dabble in, much less so in engineering |
05:33.41 | jonpry | unless you have SPICE |
05:34.35 | bzo | browsing that imagebin site is kinda mesmerizing |
05:34.49 | jonpry | for sure |
05:34.51 | bzo | kinda like intercepting open wifi traffic in an conference |
05:35.10 | jonpry | pastebin is too |
05:35.44 | jonpry | ali1234 slapped something up |
05:36.05 | bzo | is that minecraft? |
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05:36.49 | jonpry | i have no idea |
05:37.00 | bzo | so random, stock trades, emc2 config, self portraits, lol |
05:37.05 | jonpry | but i do know that i have the fastest computer in my whole country |
05:37.26 | bzo | did you splurge on sandy bridge? |
05:37.34 | jonpry | yeah |
05:37.39 | jonpry | got myself a recall |
05:37.55 | jonpry | bought a y560p the day it was released |
05:38.19 | bzo | can you imagine the engineer's reaction when the first discovered the problem? |
05:38.40 | jonpry | the dude you just lost 750mil reaction? |
05:39.39 | bzo | impressive they fessed up to it right away though |
05:39.52 | jonpry | i think there are other problems |
05:40.14 | jonpry | mine can't get out of s3 reliably and others have mentioned it |
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05:40.42 | jonpry | there talking about overvolting the PLL on resume. but it requires a bios update, that nobody is doing |
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05:42.02 | bzo | is your y560p going to be recalled? I though the laptops weren't going to be since they only use the non broken sata channels? |
05:42.04 | jonpry | meanwhile they pulled the plug on the y560p, but the hdd is hooked up to the 6.0 gbps port, which is unaffected |
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05:42.25 | jonpry | there not selling them anymore, so something is wrong |
05:42.33 | jonpry | but i agree it is not sata |
05:42.59 | bzo | I suppose this would be a convenient cover story for a more embarassing issue |
05:43.23 | jonpry | whatever that would be |
05:44.08 | jonpry | what could be more embarrassing than recalling a billion dollars of stuff |
05:46.27 | jonpry | the thing is freaking fast though. like stuff that took 5 minutes on my turion x2 heater takes 5 seconds |
05:49.12 | bzo | amd chips never have been great on laptops |
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05:52.02 | jonpry | phenom x6 looks like quite the deal though |
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05:52.42 | bzo | yeah, likely the next desktop upgrade I go for |
05:53.04 | bzo | my core 2 duo is starting to feel a bit ancient |
05:54.22 | jonpry | i calculated it all out, and it would cost the same for a phenom desktop and monitor and sandybridge laptop |
05:54.35 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: ill catch you sometime this week to talk battery if you're around. need to hit the sack. later guys. |
05:54.42 | jonpry | k, cya |
05:55.17 | jonpry | oh man, looks like lenovo is offering full refund |
05:56.18 | bzo | wow, you gonna send it back? |
05:57.01 | jonpry | i've been having second thoughts. |
05:57.24 | jonpry | the hp with 1080p screen is only $100 more |
05:58.43 | bzo | such a pain getting everything setup again though |
05:59.22 | jonpry | thats not a big deal, i can just copy the hd |
05:59.34 | jonpry | big problem is me living in grenada |
05:59.42 | jonpry | shipping is 2 weeks out, 2 weeks in |
06:00.04 | bzo | have any problems with customs? |
06:00.09 | jonpry | and high risk |
06:00.14 | bzo | they sure seem to like tp2s |
06:00.20 | jonpry | not really, they charge 5% on computer |
06:00.31 | jonpry | i insured it fully |
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06:01.09 | jonpry | so like 50 on the computer is not totally painful |
06:01.45 | jonpry | but it did take me almost 2 hours to wait in all the various lines |
06:02.35 | bzo | I can barely comprehend that |
06:03.22 | jonpry | customs is a big deal here. island imports everything right |
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06:04.52 | themenace | alguien que hable espanol |
06:05.12 | jonpry | so like first stop is the i intend to import something office, which you fill out some form, wait in a line, get it stamped, says you potentially owe $250 dollars. then you go to concessions, say you shouldn't have to pay that, pay them $2 and they give you a sticker that says you only need to pay $50 |
06:05.35 | jonpry | then you wait in the permission to import line, and they look over your crap and give you a bill |
06:05.50 | jonpry | then you take that to the ministry of finance, and pay the $50 |
06:06.12 | bzo | kafkaesque |
06:07.21 | jonpry | seems that way |
06:07.33 | themenace | espanol |
06:07.42 | jonpry | porquito |
06:08.03 | jonpry | ala google translato |
06:08.19 | bzo | lol |
06:08.47 | themenace | mi htc pro2 ,instale froyo 2.2 pero no funciona la sd card |
06:09.05 | jonpry | "long format" |
06:09.27 | jonpry | unrar |
06:09.29 | arrrghhh | themenace, full format with hp format tool |
06:09.42 | arrrghhh | ^^ http://www.eocfiles.com/bdc86eb1ed2989c30dcd1902e84939ae/bootdisks/SP27608.exe |
06:12.42 | themenace | froyo 2.2. is ready in me htc pro2, now I have 1 problem, sd card not work? |
06:13.05 | jonpry | froyo booted? |
06:13.27 | jonpry | arrancar? |
06:13.33 | arrrghhh | themenace, do what i said pls. |
06:14.05 | arrrghhh | i'm betting apps aren't recognizing the SD. which for better or worse, we've narrowed down to crappy format utilites - like the built in ones in WinMo or Windoze... |
06:14.25 | themenace | no have space in sd card? |
06:14.47 | arrrghhh | themenace, what are you trying to do |
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06:15.14 | bzo | gotta go, catch you later jonpry, arrrghhh |
06:15.18 | jonpry | just reformat it using arrggghhh's utility |
06:15.29 | jonpry | simplemente formatear usando la utilidad de arrggghhh |
06:15.56 | jonpry | lol |
06:15.56 | arrrghhh | lol |
06:16.09 | arrrghhh | just wrong bro... just wrong :P |
06:18.00 | themenace | install froyo 2.2 on the sd card and works, but does not have space sd card and the aplicasiones will be l system and then I did a route with android sdk but does not work |
06:18.23 | arrrghhh | themenace, what are you trying to do |
06:19.50 | jonpry | simplemente formatear usando la utilidad de arrggghhh |
06:21.01 | themenace | the application is in the sd and not in the system |
06:21.44 | arrrghhh | everything is on the SD |
06:25.22 | themenace | If this froyo in sd but the form, then pictures and others are to the internal memory |
06:25.35 | arrrghhh | no |
06:25.38 | arrrghhh | everything is on the SD |
06:26.00 | arrrghhh | as far as Android is concerned on your TP2 at this point, everything is on the SD |
06:28.51 | themenace | o.k. download an app, I do not have occion lower in sd because the sd is not displayed |
06:29.46 | arrrghhh | themenace, please try what i suggested earlier. |
06:32.51 | themenace | arrghhh Thanks for everything and good night aquies 1: 30 am and working today. |
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06:33.18 | arrrghhh | heh |
06:33.19 | arrrghhh | ok |
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08:10.39 | XirXes | im draining some off and am going to have the g2 fill it up and see what it says |
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08:22.03 | XirXes | the g2 filled it up and says 4156 mv. interesting |
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11:49.40 | Pr0z | is there a way to make the partition more then 400M ? |
11:49.50 | Pr0z | in CMR |
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11:51.48 | b-maximenko | Is it possible to original HD2 car kit support? http://www.htc.com/hk-en/product/accessory/car_charger_cu-s400.html - this is it. In WinMo it initialises car panel app, but android currently doesn't react on it |
11:54.26 | b-maximenko | *to add support |
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12:57.44 | [Rapunzel] | ~seen [acl] |
12:57.53 | apt | [acl] <~abel@cpe-69-203-141-229.si.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 18h 4m 40s ago, saying: 'emwe: http://pastebin.com/EPp1CvLW'. |
13:17.08 | gauner1986 | where's fakker when you need him? ^^ |
13:18.51 | [Rapunzel] | yeah, I proud that I know him - he is professional troll :) |
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13:44.59 | gauner1986 | professional trolls are always needed |
13:45.01 | gauner1986 | :) |
13:46.34 | [Rapunzel] | yeah |
13:47.12 | [Rapunzel] | it's now very required job |
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14:21.48 | Curious_ | are you still here? |
14:21.52 | Curious_ | go f* fix i2c |
14:23.05 | [Rapunzel] | ? |
14:24.02 | Curious_ | msm_i2c: error |
14:24.09 | Curious_ | bla bla |
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14:27.15 | [Rapunzel] | we discussed this already |
14:27.57 | [Rapunzel] | as well as ur trolling attitude |
14:28.45 | Curious_ | lololo |
14:29.10 | Curious_ | gimme some i2c and i will migrate to other lands.. |
14:30.05 | gauner1986 | ? |
14:30.12 | gauner1986 | why dont you fix it yourself? |
14:30.13 | gauner1986 | ;) |
14:30.18 | Curious_ | i tried already :D |
14:30.21 | [Rapunzel] | ~seen dcordes |
14:30.32 | apt | dcordes is currently on #htc-linux #oe, last said: 'bye'. |
14:30.32 | Curious_ | smells hammer |
14:30.50 | gauner1986 | dcordes is too quiet these days |
14:30.51 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
14:31.06 | Curious_ | you can also fix quick gps lock bla bla |
14:31.31 | [Rapunzel] | MN in times better than this troll |
14:31.35 | Curious_ | or sharp panel wakeup lag |
14:32.01 | Curious_ | i troll sometimes |
14:32.06 | Curious_ | but serious sometimes.. |
14:32.16 | Curious_ | not trolling now |
14:34.50 | [Rapunzel] | cockpoo? I still remember him |
14:35.52 | DirkNL | can anyone ellaborate on this issue? |
14:35.52 | DirkNL | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11170347 |
14:36.24 | Curious_ | cockpoo is the troll mode |
14:36.35 | Curious_ | don't make me get into that mode |
14:37.13 | Curious_ | nowadays, do you work on something useful for hd2? |
14:43.02 | [Rapunzel] | who cares ? |
14:43.11 | Curious_ | me |
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14:43.35 | Curious_ | does anyone having the problem of no-boot after using the phone with the same rom for a long time? |
14:43.56 | gauner1986 | rule number 1 of the fight club is.. don't talk about the fight club |
14:43.57 | gauner1986 | ? |
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14:45.19 | [Rapunzel] | yeah |
14:46.03 | Curious_ | shows middle fingerü |
14:46.51 | [Rapunzel] | yeah |
14:47.04 | [Rapunzel] | it's how u respect other people |
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15:18.08 | NetRipper | that curious guy has some attitude issues |
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15:38.58 | [acl] | [Rapunzel]: yo |
15:39.38 | emwe | hey [acl] |
15:39.46 | [acl] | how goes it |
15:40.45 | emwe | fine fine. think about takling sound now on .35 |
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15:41.45 | [acl] | ahh |
15:41.57 | [acl] | ive been too busy lately.. spreading myself short |
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15:42.40 | emwe | you know, sometimes i wish i also had a rhod ;) |
15:43.04 | [acl] | lol? why.. then topaz dev will go out the window |
15:43.08 | [acl] | ur like the only one. |
15:43.13 | emwe | hm, right. |
15:43.28 | emwe | i really miss a physkeyb ;) |
15:44.35 | [acl] | well you should get a rhod in addition to the topaz |
15:44.45 | [acl] | :-p |
15:44.49 | emwe | anyway, regarding amss_para... what do you think: instead of polluting all code with amss_get_value() (or it's string version) how about statically defining all AMSS_* constants statically on amss_para init? |
15:44.58 | emwe | hm, is one left somewhere? ;) |
15:46.11 | emwe | (on .35 i avoided all that amss_get_value() polution as far as i could, but it's a pain) |
15:47.07 | [acl] | we could do that. but didnt alex cook up or is cooking up a solution ? |
15:47.53 | emwe | not sure. he said he would cook something up. haven't seen sth about it yet, though. |
15:48.02 | emwe | ok, will try the hard way for now. |
15:49.46 | [acl] | well for now what you mentioned sounds fine. Specially if its slowing progress down. |
15:50.30 | gauner1986 | emwe: don't you sometimes wish to have a leo? :) |
15:50.32 | emwe | if i wouldn't have iniitally already done it the other way ;) |
15:50.46 | emwe | gauner1986: i often wish i had a desire z/g2 |
15:50.47 | emwe | ;) |
15:51.17 | gauner1986 | hm.. yeah.. it's nice. but hardware is too weak for considerung an upgrade to it for now |
15:51.24 | gauner1986 | dual core ftw! |
15:51.35 | [acl] | gauner1986: dang came here to start trouble i see :-p |
15:51.36 | emwe | yeah, looking forward to msm8x60 |
15:52.08 | gauner1986 | yeah |
15:52.16 | gauner1986 | looking forward to work together with you guys then |
15:52.16 | gauner1986 | :P |
15:52.20 | emwe | show the desirez to my gf lately in a market and she somehow fell in love with it ;) |
15:52.43 | gauner1986 | haha, maybe it'll be your valentines day present :D |
15:52.48 | emwe | then her old tattoo can act as a xmbc remote for the to be established media center settop |
15:53.02 | gauner1986 | lol |
15:53.05 | emwe | s/xmbc/xbmc |
15:53.06 | gauner1986 | you got a geek-gf? :) |
15:53.12 | emwe | no, not really |
15:53.31 | emwe | but the tattoo is the only resistive htc device with android and she bought it because of her fingernails |
15:53.40 | emwe | so any new device needs a physkeyb ;) |
15:54.04 | emwe | sounds like a woodpecker when she tips sms on her tattoo ;) |
15:54.10 | [acl] | lol |
15:54.29 | emwe | i hope she never reads this ;) |
15:54.32 | emwe | haha |
15:58.57 | [acl] | emwe: she might.. my ex started reading when she didnt believe i actually was this nerdy |
15:59.15 | [acl] | little did she know.. i was actually a nerd :-\ |
16:00.49 | emwe | she knows how to take it. 9 years is like a marriage already. |
16:01.48 | [acl] | jeez |
16:01.50 | [acl] | 9 years |
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16:33.39 | rhodium100 | hi |
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16:56.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe, [acl]: oi guys |
16:59.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: i've sort of done something with dynamic amss_para, but i think we need to rework smd and amss so that they don't get registered asynchronously and are actually registered prior to other devices. can email my current snapshot to ya, but cannot work on it now.. busy with university stuff |
17:00.23 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sup dood.. |
17:00.34 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: busy here as well.. :-( |
17:00.37 | emwe | heya Alex[sp3dev]. i look at everthing i can get my hands on ;) |
17:00.48 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: you are still in examn stress, right? |
17:01.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: nope... but the professors are giving very slight hints that it's high time we started working on our course projects |
17:01.50 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: i see. then hush hush outta here :) |
17:05.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: should i send it to mweirauch|at|xdandroid.com? |
17:05.44 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: yes, thank you. |
17:08.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: done. note that right now the qdsp will fail because it needs rpc router. i cannot think of a good way to *ensure* it gets registered after rpc router. either we create a callback in the rpc router so that it registers amss, or introduce a global conditional variable (which will.. just fuck up everything if rpc crashes) |
17:10.13 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: thanks for the input. i first need to dig myself through. i haven't done a lot - if anything at all - in all that audio area. |
17:10.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: i assume audio will 'just work' if you enable qdsp5.. although we'll need to re-add platform controls |
17:11.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, gotta go. see you later |
17:11.09 | emwe | thx |
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17:28.41 | [Rapunzel] | hey Alex |
17:31.36 | [Rapunzel] | heh he leave |
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18:14.16 | randomblame | good morning vietnam |
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19:18.35 | [Rapunzel] | hey |
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19:24.34 | L_miller1708 | [acl] You want me to dump my whole folder? |
19:33.59 | [acl] | L_miller1708: just cat out the /dev/mtd/mtd3 > /sdcard/mtd3.img |
19:35.14 | L_miller1708 | Ok. |
19:40.14 | L_miller1708 | Uploading it now. |
19:41.14 | [acl] | L_miller1708: im at work so no need to upload. can you open with hex editor ? |
19:41.26 | L_miller1708 | ok sure.. |
19:43.32 | L_miller1708 | I have it opened. |
19:43.59 | [acl] | stuff in there ? |
19:44.16 | L_miller1708 | yup. |
19:44.23 | [acl] | hmm |
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19:44.48 | [acl] | [Rapunzel]: do you know if we can mount a mtd dump as loop ? |
19:45.05 | gauner1986 | [acl]: doesn't work |
19:45.08 | [Rapunzel] | no |
19:45.16 | gauner1986 | [acl]: yaffs2 doesnt want it |
19:45.18 | [Rapunzel] | for yaffs2 - not |
19:45.46 | [acl] | ahh ok fellas |
19:46.28 | [acl] | gauner1986: maybe you can guide us |
19:46.57 | L_miller1708 | I have to take off. sorry. Talk to you all later. |
19:47.02 | gauner1986 | [acl]: with what? |
19:47.06 | [acl] | L_miller1708: thanks .. later |
19:47.33 | [acl] | gauner1986: Lmiller said after he reboots his nand partions appear blank again |
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19:48.14 | gauner1986 | [acl]: hum.. nand broken? ^^ |
19:48.27 | gauner1986 | or bootloader clears it |
19:48.38 | [acl] | gauner1986: hmm |
19:48.48 | [acl] | gauner1986: not sure if its a yaffs issue or nand |
19:48.56 | [Rapunzel] | or maybe it's write protected |
19:49.01 | [Rapunzel] | and u very lucky |
19:49.04 | [Rapunzel] | ... |
19:49.17 | [acl] | lol.. nope. because originally i was able to |
19:49.31 | [acl] | but it was buggy as in only certain files would be visible |
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19:49.38 | [Rapunzel] | hey Alex |
19:49.44 | [acl] | so lets say i untar /system. Only a hand full of files would be there after |
19:49.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | hi |
19:49.53 | [Rapunzel] | how ur SEXLDR |
19:49.53 | [Rapunzel] | ? |
19:50.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Rapunzel]: i have almost written the ld script. but no time for that.. need to work on my course project. really |
19:50.21 | [acl] | gauner1986: so thats whats happening :-) |
19:50.29 | [Rapunzel] | hehe :) |
19:50.43 | [Rapunzel] | X1 have this sexy button near camera? |
19:50.49 | gauner1986 | [acl]: that's strange |
19:50.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Rapunzel]: which one? |
19:51.09 | [Rapunzel] | I found such one on TP2. it's so sexyyy |
19:51.16 | gauner1986 | [acl]: don't think it's yaffs fault.. but have you played with yaffs kernel options? |
19:51.17 | [Rapunzel] | near camera circle button |
19:51.17 | [Rapunzel] | :D |
19:51.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | so. you've already run magldr on tp2, aite? |
19:51.27 | gauner1986 | lol |
19:51.31 | [Rapunzel] | not yet |
19:51.34 | [Rapunzel] | got it today |
19:51.50 | gauner1986 | Alex[sp3dev]: thought you were not interested in closed source :P |
19:51.55 | [Rapunzel] | :P |
19:51.56 | [acl] | gauner1986: matches hd2 kernel options |
19:51.57 | [Rapunzel] | I wanna press it more more and more |
19:52.07 | [acl] | LOL |
19:52.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | clit-button? |
19:52.24 | [acl] | lol |
19:52.29 | gauner1986 | yummy |
19:52.38 | [Rapunzel] | there mic and X |
19:52.43 | [Rapunzel] | shown |
19:52.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | X stands for XYN? |
19:53.02 | [Rapunzel] | http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/image/htc/touch-pro2/pic/all-face.jpg |
19:53.16 | [Rapunzel] | camera and there near buttion |
19:53.27 | [acl] | no 3.5mm .. poor bastard |
19:53.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Rapunzel]: so you'll be working from scratch? or use our ancient and dirty kernel? |
19:53.50 | [Rapunzel] | ur kernel |
19:53.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | good |
19:53.54 | [Rapunzel] | :P |
19:54.21 | gauner1986 | [Rapunzel] has some love for ancient stuff |
19:54.26 | [Rapunzel] | ya |
19:54.34 | [Rapunzel] | mayeb I should buy Wallaby |
19:54.36 | [Rapunzel] | for collection |
19:55.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Rapunzel]: two things i like most about X1 (except screen) are optical joystick and.. 4 color leds at the corners |
19:55.15 | [Rapunzel] | I like this circle button in TP2 |
19:56.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/reviews/0000001107/review/lights.jpg love that |
19:56.45 | [Rapunzel] | ohh |
19:56.59 | [Rapunzel] | how many colors? |
19:57.02 | [acl] | gauner1986; didnt you have similar issues? i was reading the log you had some nand issues early on |
19:57.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | red, green, blue.. 255 pwm levels for each color |
19:57.17 | gauner1986 | [acl]: our issues were about the spl clearing a part of the nand |
19:57.24 | gauner1986 | [acl]: the extrom part actually |
19:57.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5564/img2201.png |
19:57.31 | gauner1986 | [acl]: on reboot |
19:57.40 | [acl] | gauner1986: fuck.. i didnt know this |
19:57.41 | gauner1986 | made files corrupt |
19:58.04 | [Rapunzel] | Enter is so funny |
19:58.06 | [Rapunzel] | on X1 |
19:58.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah.. the good old two-storey one |
19:58.32 | [acl] | gauner1986: but it may not be the same. since we have 0 data now. I may need to revert back and see where it broke. ive been trying but too many changes |
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21:02.33 | [acl] | hideous .. !!! |
21:03.07 | emwe | phh: do you still remember - on early amss625 sound trials - that arm9 crashed right away and what the fix was? |
21:03.26 | emwe | 6125 i mean... |
21:04.32 | gauner1986 | hey dan1j3l |
21:04.55 | dan1j3l | hi |
21:06.41 | [acl] | gauner1986: ull be around tonight ? |
21:07.09 | gauner1986 | [acl]: till ~1am cet |
21:07.28 | [acl] | sounds delicious |
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22:46.41 | donc3 | Hi |
22:46.48 | donc3 | can someone help me? |
22:47.23 | donc3 | I have a desire hd |
22:47.35 | donc3 | and I'm trying to install kamma kernel |
22:47.44 | arrrghhh | chat |
22:47.48 | arrrghhh | #htc-linux-chat |
22:48.41 | donc3 | but when I install it with the recovery it doesn't boot |
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