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| 00:25.26 | tripp00 | hello everyone, can anyone help me with a problem im having on running android reference rom on my htc tilt2 from my sd card. The rom runs really good i have wifi and all kinds of controls the only problem is it will not connect to my celluar network "att" |
| 00:26.44 | stinebd | tripp00: edit startup.txt and remove force_cdma=1 from cmdline if it's there |
| 00:26.54 | TheXev | (tell them its the newest one, FRX04) |
| 00:27.15 | TheXev | ooo |
| 00:30.03 | tripp00 | yup its frx04 |
| 00:30.19 | TheXev | did you have that line in startup.txt? |
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| 00:31.46 | tripp00 | yup i removed it fomr the line and goning to boot it up now |
| 00:31.53 | TheXev | ooo |
| 00:32.07 | TheXev | its probably a more useful like for W. :/ |
| 00:37.12 | tripp00 | you guys are the best, working 3g |
| 00:37.50 | TheXev | makes sense.. it was trying to use a CDMA radio that just wasn't there. |
| 00:38.20 | TheXev | I never tired my TP2 in GSM with it.. so it could be useful in the future. |
| 00:39.22 | tripp00 | yup thats true something to be rememberd |
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| 00:40.43 | randomblame | well I"ll be kerflunkled |
| 00:41.09 | randomblame | guest additions is working properly for once |
| 00:42.35 | tripp00 | alright guys leaving work now but i'll be back on later see whats up,thanks agian Xev and stinebd |
| 00:43.19 | TheXev | np. At least I found the place for you to get your anwser. |
| 00:44.33 | tripp00 | yup i've been seearching all since last night, im glad i ran into you here |
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| 01:29.51 | surge919_ | Would posting logs from kernel panics be useful to any devs or do you guys have enough of them? |
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| 02:28.49 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's up. |
| 02:29.03 | arrrghhh | logs a floodin in from kernel panics & resets to winmo... |
| 02:29.25 | arrrghhh | i had the same condition, and it seems something is killing mah sleep (the phone's, not mine :P) |
| 02:29.47 | WisTilt2 | howdy. got home a little bit ago, just ate and starting to code the system server workaround |
| 02:30.23 | arrrghhh | cool. |
| 02:30.31 | arrrghhh | i had a very strange android day. |
| 02:30.41 | arrrghhh | not sure if roaming, bad signal, or minor usage of navi killed it. |
| 02:30.46 | WisTilt2 | resets to winmo? dont think anything in this kernel should cause that that i can think of offhand. does it happen when in sleep or while awake? |
| 02:30.53 | arrrghhh | mine was in sleep |
| 02:30.58 | arrrghhh | well, phone *should* have been in sleep. |
| 02:31.10 | arrrghhh | one dmesg looks like that divide by 0 issue you were talking about |
| 02:31.16 | arrrghhh | but we're also talking about my untrained eye. |
| 02:31.36 | arrrghhh | i figure you want to code, so have at it. let me know if you want to see the logs, i can email them or just link you to the pastebin... up to you man. |
| 02:31.41 | WisTilt2 | was the divide by zero right around any battery stuff? |
| 02:32.28 | arrrghhh | appears so |
| 02:32.47 | arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/ccKsETYk, just start at the end and scroll up. |
| 02:33.03 | WisTilt2 | need to mod battery code eventually to fix that and some other things |
| 02:33.10 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 02:33.19 | arrrghhh | like you said tho, one thing at a time. just too many bugs :P |
| 02:34.10 | WisTilt2 | whos phone is that from?? there is a fatal kernel panic there also |
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| 02:34.21 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 02:34.30 | arrrghhh | dude i haven't talked to before |
| 02:34.49 | arrrghhh | gonna ask him what phone 1 sec |
| 02:35.55 | stinebd | wait wait wait |
| 02:36.00 | stinebd | before we try to do anything here |
| 02:36.10 | WisTilt2 | im betting that user isnt running FRX04 |
| 02:36.11 | stinebd | someone get WisTilt2 a fresh bottle |
| 02:36.31 | stinebd | it's FRX04, sys info is at the top of the paste |
| 02:36.31 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: lol, none tonight, need to save it til tomorrow night |
| 02:36.37 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 02:36.47 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, it is frx04... |
| 02:37.11 | arrrghhh | i always discount people running froyoX, trust me :P |
| 02:37.24 | stinebd | thank god for release-keys :P |
| 02:37.29 | stinebd | much less confusing for us |
| 02:37.45 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 02:37.55 | arrrghhh | i'm glad i convinced reef to use your images too |
| 02:38.00 | arrrghhh | he kept wanting to build his own lol |
| 02:38.15 | arrrghhh | oh WisTilt2 he's got the same phone as me, RHOD400 |
| 02:38.27 | arrrghhh | now if only i could get reef to pull that stupid cab... |
| 02:38.51 | surge919_ | WisTilt2... System_boot shows.. Build: generic/full_msm/msm/msm:2.2.1/FRX04/eng.bryan.20110121.213411:eng/release-keys |
| 02:39.25 | arrrghhh | ^^ user who gave the log |
| 02:41.24 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: does mediaserver launch while in bootani screen? |
| 02:41.33 | stinebd | WisTilt2: yeah |
| 02:43.06 | stinebd | i really need to figure out how to get our fake system volume visible to mediaserver |
| 02:43.30 | stinebd | as it is now we have to have sounds on sd card bleh |
| 02:43.32 | WisTilt2 | ive been seeing quite a few mediaserver followed by a couple dozen blank binder thread numbers that i dont remember seeing before. not recently anyway |
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| 02:44.01 | WisTilt2 | not blank but NULL actually |
| 02:44.07 | manekineko_ | WisTilt2, arrrghhh directed me here to talk to you about my latest crash |
| 02:44.20 | manekineko_ | here's the dmesg for it: http://pastebin.com/geJYwbBv |
| 02:44.39 | manekineko_ | I pressed the power button, and there was no apparent response |
| 02:44.57 | manekineko_ | I believe, though am not sure, that I was already in orange before I pressed it since it was plugged in |
| 02:45.12 | manekineko_ | I then flipped open the keyboard and observed that it lighted, but screen stayed dark |
| 02:45.21 | manekineko_ | I started pressing random buttons with no response |
| 02:45.31 | manekineko_ | about 15 seconds later, the panel wake up properly in landscape |
| 02:45.38 | manekineko_ | I believe this sequence of events is visible in the log as: |
| 02:45.48 | manekineko_ | msmfb_pan_display timeout waiting for frame start, 2 1 |
| 02:45.52 | manekineko_ | msmfb_pan_display timeout rerequest vsync |
| 02:46.14 | manekineko_ | after it woke up, I used it for a bit, and it was behaving mostly normally |
| 02:46.32 | manekineko_ | I was about to dump the dmesg via OSMonitor, but that failed because I already had a file named dmesg in my sdcard root |
| 02:46.36 | manekineko_ | and then I was hit by a kernel panic |
| 02:46.39 | WisTilt2 | what phone do you have? |
| 02:46.43 | arrrghhh | ...same |
| 02:46.45 | arrrghhh | RHOD400 |
| 02:47.00 | WisTilt2 | with my latest kernel? |
| 02:47.04 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 02:47.04 | manekineko_ | yep |
| 02:47.21 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i've had this condition, but the bl came on and just stuck. it never finished responding. |
| 02:47.30 | arrrghhh | no panel, never got it to do anything. |
| 02:47.45 | manekineko_ | with no panel response ever isn't that a classic SoD? |
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| 02:48.19 | WisTilt2 | ok thats a timing problem. I probably have the panel delay set too low, which i thought might be a possibility. did it happen in any earlier test kernel? |
| 02:48.48 | arrrghhh | manekineko_, but the panel woke lol |
| 02:48.56 | arrrghhh | i shouldn't say that, the bl came up |
| 02:49.10 | arrrghhh | panel never really woke, as the screen never came up |
| 02:49.27 | WisTilt2 | its the workaround to wake panel up more consistently until we (or [acl] actually) can change the delay before unblank gets called |
| 02:49.34 | manekineko_ | hmm lemme, check, I think I posted about this same thing happening once earlier, let me see when it was |
| 02:50.18 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, so it's acl's faul |
| 02:50.22 | arrrghhh | s/faul/fault/ |
| 02:50.45 | manekineko_ | it happened to me once earlier on 2/1 |
| 02:51.04 | WisTilt2 | not his fault, he just needs to fix something in the fb code, so yeah maybe we'll call it his fault:) |
| 02:51.31 | WisTilt2 | 2/1 is when i lowered the timing the first time that drastically |
| 02:51.33 | arrrghhh | haha yea |
| 02:53.23 | WisTilt2 | the fact that the panel finally came back up is interesting. but it did or didnt turn on the actual panel bl manekineko? |
| 02:53.35 | WisTilt2 | before it fixed itself |
| 02:54.10 | manekineko_ | I don't believe it did |
| 02:54.22 | manekineko_ | but am only about 75% sure |
| 02:54.26 | WisTilt2 | but it finally did come on with graphics normally? |
| 02:54.40 | manekineko_ | yup, and I used Android for about 1 minute after that normally |
| 02:54.43 | manekineko_ | until the kernel panic |
| 02:55.35 | WisTilt2 | did you say you ran something to kill a proc or restart something after that happened? |
| 02:56.33 | manekineko_ | nope, I went to OSMonitor to dump the dmesg log, which has that functionality |
| 02:56.50 | manekineko_ | but I entered 'dmesg' as the name of the log file, so that command failed because I already had a file named that on my sdcard |
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| 02:57.08 | manekineko_ | and before I had enough time to try again, kernel panic |
| 02:57.27 | manekineko_ | I pulled this dmesg from dropbox/SYSTEM_LAST |
| 02:57.38 | WisTilt2 | pretty sure thats a timing problem. ill up the time a bit higher than the 2/1 kernel and see if that stops it. |
| 02:57.47 | manekineko_ | cool |
| 02:58.29 | WisTilt2 | im running the timing very low to make it wake up quicker but some phones probably are right on the ragged edge at those levels so need to increase them |
| 02:58.52 | manekineko_ | for what it's worth this is a pretty rare occurrence for me, probably 5% or less |
| 02:59.39 | WisTilt2 | we need to get it to 0% :) dont want android to operate like winmo and all its quirks lol |
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| 03:00.26 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, lol |
| 03:00.49 | arrrghhh | yea, fast panel wake would be nice, but sounds like it'll be best to wait until acl can tweak his fb |
| 03:01.53 | WisTilt2 | before i get to coding system server, stinebd: any thoughts on the NULL threads? happens immediately after mediaserver so assume its related. |
| 03:02.39 | stinebd | can't say anything without more info |
| 03:02.54 | stinebd | but once you get into binder errors, who knows what the hell is going on |
| 03:04.24 | WisTilt2 | yeah true. t->from thread can be traced but not in the mood to spend so much time on that right now. |
| 03:04.32 | WisTilt2 | makes my head spin |
| 03:06.13 | WisTilt2 | manekineko: just noticed something else in your dmesg... line 1043 is really not possible so dont know if it was due to kernel getting ready to go crazy or what. 7% powersink should be 7000ua not 147000 |
| 03:06.35 | stinebd | is the powersink stuff anywhere near accurate? |
| 03:07.01 | WisTilt2 | yeah the settings are as they are hard set by different pdev's |
| 03:07.56 | WisTilt2 | 7000ua is always on suspend, then 1000ua for full sleep. only time i think it goes higher than 38000, which is in wake, is when wifi turned on |
| 03:08.34 | manekineko_ | heh it's not going to blow up is it |
| 03:08.44 | stinebd | not violently |
| 03:08.48 | manekineko_ | lol |
| 03:09.11 | WisTilt2 | phone probably got warm though |
| 03:09.33 | manekineko_ | that comes out more than once actually |
| 03:09.41 | WisTilt2 | i dont even see anything that sets pwrsink to that level |
| 03:10.04 | manekineko_ | I'm seeing at least 10 occurrences of 147000 uA |
| 03:11.11 | manekineko_ | even 178000uA a few times |
| 03:11.22 | stinebd | zam |
| 03:11.51 | WisTilt2 | looks like the sd card would have that level or there abouts |
| 03:12.28 | WisTilt2 | enough on this. want to get this system server workaround done while its fresh in my brain |
| 03:12.47 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: there have been some reports of SEVERE drain a couple times, i think arrrghhh had it once |
| 03:12.52 | stinebd | i'm sure gonna miss that bug that never hits me |
| 03:13.00 | WisTilt2 | manekineko thanks for the log though, good new info in there |
| 03:13.05 | rpierce99 | hates stinebd |
| 03:13.16 | rpierce99 | or is jealous of stinebd |
| 03:13.18 | WisTilt2 | you never get that on raph? |
| 03:13.19 | manekineko_ | I do get SEVERE drain on occasion |
| 03:13.22 | manekineko_ | seen it a few times |
| 03:13.25 | manekineko_ | WisTilt2: np |
| 03:13.31 | stinebd | without a sim, not often at all |
| 03:13.33 | manekineko_ | probably 3-4 total |
| 03:13.45 | manekineko_ | it's fast enough you can see the percentage dropping |
| 03:13.48 | manekineko_ | like ~1% a second |
| 03:13.49 | stinebd | i've only seen it a handful of times |
| 03:13.53 | stinebd | in perhaps thousands of boots |
| 03:14.03 | manekineko_ | I posted a log of it on ppcgeeks a few days back |
| 03:14.10 | manekineko_ | though to my untrained eye I didn't see anything interesting in the log |
| 03:14.16 | manekineko_ | happens while plugged in too |
| 03:14.18 | arrrghhh | i blame userland |
| 03:14.28 | manekineko_ | in fact, I've only had it happen plugged in |
| 03:14.48 | manekineko_ | say, I don't suppose the over-high uA levels could be related to this: |
| 03:14.48 | manekineko_ | sdslot_switchvdd: Invalid VDD 17 specified |
| 03:14.56 | manekineko_ | I get a lot of those errors in my dmesg |
| 03:15.11 | rpierce99 | manekineko_: your phone decided to power the grid since WisTilt2 made it so you hardly even need a battery any more |
| 03:15.34 | manekineko_ | lol ya, for the couple seconds until the battery is drained, my phone is actually powering the city |
| 03:16.04 | WisTilt2 | havent heard any feedback about battery in this kernel, other than from arrrghhh:( |
| 03:16.22 | manekineko_ | heh I thought that arrrghhh was the official WisTilt2 interpreter |
| 03:16.37 | manekineko_ | relaying our feedback to you |
| 03:16.43 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:16.45 | manekineko_ | fwiw, I get phenomenal battery life on your kernel |
| 03:16.49 | arrrghhh | i'm like that guy in office space |
| 03:16.52 | manekineko_ | <1% an hour |
| 03:16.56 | WisTilt2 | he said good battery but i want to hear less than 1% from all devices |
| 03:17.04 | arrrghhh | who brings the specs to the engineers |
| 03:17.20 | WisTilt2 | this last kernel should be under .5% if in full sleep |
| 03:17.36 | WisTilt2 | im seeing about 1% every 4 hours or so the past 2 nights |
| 03:17.51 | manekineko_ | lol, it's hard to tell because the battery meter isn't very accurate, but sometimes on your kernel I have literally seen the battery go up while sleeping |
| 03:17.51 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, today i did notice the orange led blip quite frequently in sleep. |
| 03:17.57 | manekineko_ | maybe I am powering the city for real |
| 03:17.59 | arrrghhh | don't know what it is, but that may be what's killing my sleep. |
| 03:18.08 | rpierce99 | I'm not getting quite that good, but I have a lot of stuff syncing. I've been unplugged for about 12 hours and I'm at 59% according to Status |
| 03:18.12 | manekineko_ | I use the TP2 hard, and the battery is probably under reporting |
| 03:18.22 | manekineko_ | I turn it off, and turn it on a few hours later, the battery level is higher than when turned off |
| 03:18.28 | WisTilt2 | try it when battery level is 80% or less and you'll get pretty accurate results. over that no good, over 90% really way off |
| 03:18.52 | manekineko_ | I just yesterday saw I think 72% off, an hour or two later 74% |
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| 03:19.15 | WisTilt2 | yeah thats my regeneration i was talking about lol |
| 03:19.22 | manekineko_ | lol ya, I could get used to that |
| 03:19.38 | WisTilt2 | brightness will skew that also |
| 03:19.54 | rpierce99 | and if we can perfect the grid chargeback we'll be rich |
| 03:20.06 | manekineko_ | brightness skews the battery percentage calculation? |
| 03:20.32 | manekineko_ | heh ya, work on XDAndroid power optimizations => accidentally invent free energy device |
| 03:21.38 | WisTilt2 | no, if you let it settle down in low light and get that reading then check it say an hour later in bright light, the drain will pull battery down a percent or so. need to test drain in identical lighting conditions. |
| 03:22.37 | arrrghhh | seems wlan and other things skew it as well |
| 03:22.49 | manekineko_ | I'm getting much better battery life in Android now than I got in WinMo |
| 03:23.03 | arrrghhh | viruscrazy said something about the battery meter not being calibrated to monitor drain correctly when they're in use |
| 03:23.03 | manekineko_ | can't wait til we can go full NAND |
| 03:23.35 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: true, no hysteresis in camros code |
| 03:23.56 | rpierce99 | wish I could do that, company phone, they'd probably frown on me flashing nand with an OS they don't support |
| 03:24.26 | manekineko_ | flash dual-boot then! |
| 03:24.29 | manekineko_ | that would be hot |
| 03:24.46 | rpierce99 | i don't care how it boots as long as I don't ever have to reboot |
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| 03:24.58 | rpierce99 | make it stable enough that it can run for a week or more and i'll be happy |
| 03:25.09 | manekineko_ | haret will never be able to use the SD card right though |
| 03:25.23 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, we'll get right on that. |
| 03:25.33 | rpierce99 | we're getting there, I only boot to WinMo now after SoD or KP |
| 03:25.46 | manekineko_ | yeah, me too |
| 03:25.53 | manekineko_ | and then only long enough to press the button in GenY |
| 03:25.57 | rpierce99 | exactly |
| 03:26.13 | arrrghhh | lol acl's last post on ppcg: "Sorry vfellas .. at a rooftop ripped drunk... I won't be able to look into anything till tomottow. " |
| 03:26.39 | manekineko_ | gotta love the dedication, giving us updates even in that condition |
| 03:27.19 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:29.49 | manekineko_ | you guys notice that tiad8 found an interesting clue on the bootup panel rotation issue? |
| 03:30.01 | manekineko_ | panel boots up in portrait mode if you stand the phone on its end while booting |
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| 03:30.08 | rpierce99 | no i was just reading how he fixed battery life |
| 03:30.18 | manekineko_ | lol, that too |
| 03:30.39 | rpierce99 | who knew it was because the sd card gets hot |
| 03:31.05 | manekineko_ | haha |
| 03:31.33 | manekineko_ | I don't know what to make of the fact that his users seem to say there are no system server problems on his older FroyoX build |
| 03:31.41 | manekineko_ | I never got around to trying any of his builds myself |
| 03:33.20 | rpierce99 | i don't see anything about rotation, where did you see it |
| 03:33.44 | manekineko_ | in a post a way back, he mentioned it off hand |
| 03:33.54 | manekineko_ | I tested and confirmed it on FRX04 |
| 03:34.07 | manekineko_ | never generated any discussion though |
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| 03:34.18 | manekineko_ | or maybe it did, I don't follow the FroyoX thread too carefully |
| 03:34.23 | rpierce99 | what did you do? |
| 03:34.25 | Amadner|sl33p | how do i get to ##3283# via a NON sense rom |
| 03:34.41 | manekineko_ | I booted my phone while propping it up vertically |
| 03:34.48 | manekineko_ | and was surprised to see it actually boots in portrait |
| 03:34.59 | manekineko_ | so it must be something in the rotation sensor init causing the problem |
| 03:35.11 | manekineko_ | probably before userland because I have auto-rotate disabled in Android |
| 03:35.29 | Amadner|sl33p | nobody knows? |
| 03:38.31 | arrrghhh | Amander, this isn't a room for build talk |
| 03:38.36 | arrrghhh | might get some help in -chat |
| 03:39.01 | Amander | .. i cant get my rom to work on boost if i cant get in to data screen tho |
| 03:39.09 | Amander | and i cant even attempt to do it otherwise |
| 03:39.11 | Amander | sighs |
| 03:39.12 | Amander | ok |
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| 03:57.59 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: are you still getting system server often enough to try a quick kernel test for any change? |
| 03:58.40 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: every boot here, if you want |
| 03:59.22 | rpierce99 | I know arrrghhh is too, but he isn't answering :) |
| 03:59.45 | arrrghhh | hey now |
| 03:59.49 | rpierce99 | :) |
| 03:59.50 | arrrghhh | vultures i tell you |
| 03:59.53 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 03:59.58 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea it's basically every boot. |
| 04:00.30 | rpierce99 | tiad just said he's looking into NAND too :) |
| 04:00.51 | WisTilt2 | sorry, had to break up a cat fight lol |
| 04:00.58 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:01.00 | rpierce99 | don't break those up man |
| 04:01.03 | arrrghhh | between cats or females? |
| 04:01.04 | rpierce99 | record |
| 04:01.18 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, were are you reading all this crap, i haven't seen any posts by him. |
| 04:01.22 | arrrghhh | probably in his dumb threads huh |
| 04:01.27 | rpierce99 | froyox thread, yeah |
| 04:01.34 | WisTilt2 | cats. have had them for 15yrs |
| 04:01.35 | rpierce99 | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=2050657#post2050657 |
| 04:02.34 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: let me test one more boot then ill put up the image with same name as the pvt test one i gave you the other night |
| 04:02.35 | F22 | that's like 90 in cat years. they're like grumpy old men. kind of funny that after 15 years they're still fighting. |
| 04:03.20 | arrrghhh | my buddy had a cat that was 22 |
| 04:03.25 | WisTilt2 | F22: yeah they're all females and getting mean to each other in their old age. all from same litter also |
| 04:03.38 | F22 | female! even worse! lol |
| 04:03.50 | arrrghhh | still acted like it was young, jumped up on counters and all. they had to put it down at 23 tho, it was getting unhealthy... |
| 04:04.38 | F22 | 22 is ancient |
| 04:04.47 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: try this image and i know its a pain but boot several times and see if system server ever happens. |
| 04:05.06 | WisTilt2 | again, same name as that other kernel i gave you |
| 04:06.37 | F22 | system_server bug workaround? |
| 04:06.58 | WisTilt2 | yeah temporary fix until i trace the root cause |
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| 04:07.35 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: will this workaround do anything for system_server that happens not at boot |
| 04:07.44 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, i'm not happy. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/2050662-post2108.html |
| 04:07.54 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sure |
| 04:08.03 | WisTilt2 | ive never seen that happen after boot once its fixed |
| 04:08.20 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, it's rare but i believe it does happen. |
| 04:08.27 | WisTilt2 | and yes it will still detect it but will basically look like phone if restarting again |
| 04:08.28 | arrrghhh | i don't think i've actually seen it tho |
| 04:09.06 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, you said the same test name as yesterday? |
| 04:09.31 | WisTilt2 | i cant get it to do it so cant tell if its happening and being fixed or not lol. i guess i need to add logging so we can see when it was fixed each time jeeze |
| 04:09.49 | WisTilt2 | yes |
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| 04:10.16 | F22 | hmmm....my first sod in like 4 days. |
| 04:10.44 | WisTilt2 | bah, arrrghhh hold off. i just got it and i have another area i need to trap |
| 04:10.56 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, cool. |
| 04:11.55 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: I'm glad you caught that older one about the sd card |
| 04:11.59 | rpierce99 | that was hilarious |
| 04:14.17 | arrrghhh | f-ing retarded. |
| 04:14.52 | F22 | ? |
| 04:15.07 | arrrghhh | F22, that link i posted earlier |
| 04:15.18 | rpierce99 | it's a good one, well worth the read |
| 04:16.13 | F22 | oh, wow... |
| 04:17.32 | F22 | not that he doesn't deserve it....all the praise he's been getting from the clueless newbs has been getting to his head. he wasn't that bad in the past. |
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| 04:19.49 | arrrghhh | yea, that's pretty retarded. if the hashchecks match, i dunno... i guess i'll just have to stop distributing the kernels. or WisTilt2 can just put something in there that'll blow up froyoX... i like option #2. |
| 04:20.12 | F22 | lol |
| 04:20.19 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: just checked out that post you put up above, sounds like what we were talking about the other day is going to need to happen |
| 04:20.45 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea. i'm not sure what to do, pretty pissed off tho. |
| 04:21.57 | WisTilt2 | be interested to see his reply to your post |
| 04:23.07 | arrrghhh | hrm. just got a PM that if he turns off autobl, that sleep flicker bug doesn't happen. odd... he does have a raph tho, the guy that pm'd me that is. |
| 04:23.34 | WisTilt2 | sleep flicker bug? whats that |
| 04:23.45 | arrrghhh | what i was describing before |
| 04:23.48 | arrrghhh | i guess i'll have to test it |
| 04:24.02 | arrrghhh | basically phone is in sleep, but it keeps waking every few seconds. |
| 04:24.44 | WisTilt2 | autobl has nothing at all to do with that, autobl is done in the hardware and not running any background code at all. |
| 04:25.09 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 04:25.15 | arrrghhh | well i'll just go back to blaming something in userland then. |
| 04:25.40 | WisTilt2 | in fact, in my last several kernels microp isnt even being used so thats all bunk |
| 04:26.14 | arrrghhh | yea he's probably not even running your test kernel. sorry, that's one of the ones i should've filtered out, my bad :P |
| 04:26.27 | F22 | blame tiad... ;) |
| 04:27.08 | WisTilt2 | probably running one that does light sensor polling for software auto brightness |
| 04:27.26 | arrrghhh | yea, he does have a raph :P |
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| 04:28.40 | F22 | i'm suddenly seeing the ressurection of ancient haret startup options that were pretty much dead and buried until recently. a lot of people are suddenly running weird things. |
| 04:29.03 | WisTilt2 | my autobl i did for raph is in microp, which is also running on the hardware so no way can that cause that. |
| 04:31.02 | arrrghhh | F22, definitely blame tiad for that. |
| 04:31.26 | F22 | it's amazing how many people are suddenly running old, outdated stuff. |
| 04:32.25 | rpierce99 | that's what tiad does, pulls old stuff and tries to mix it with new stuff to make some kind of frankenstein thing that is apparenlty fast but held together with chicken wire |
| 04:33.02 | arrrghhh | lol yea |
| 04:33.08 | arrrghhh | people complaining about all sorts of old bugs |
| 04:33.25 | arrrghhh | i can't even look at his threads anymore, glad i did tho. i probably wouldn't have if you didn't say anything rpierce99 |
| 04:33.43 | F22 | i stopped looking myself. they're just too painful too read. |
| 04:33.46 | rpierce99 | yeah work has been slow lately, had lots of time to read random threads today |
| 04:36.59 | F22 | frankenstein is probably a good analogy though, he chops pieces off of the software equivalent to corpses and stitches them together. |
| 04:41.25 | F22 | arrrghhh: have you seen tiad's reply? |
| 04:42.04 | arrrghhh | just read it |
| 04:42.26 | rpierce99 | this is better drama than the show my wife is watching |
| 04:42.39 | F22 | he's innocent. it's entirely his own creation. :P |
| 04:43.04 | arrrghhh | i responded |
| 04:43.22 | F22 | oh, and he's already fixed the system_server bug... lol |
| 04:43.43 | arrrghhh | yea, addressed that too :P |
| 04:44.20 | rpierce99 | he's so modest, an idea that will change all future builds without battery kernels |
| 04:45.17 | F22 | he's gotten really over the top... |
| 04:46.14 | F22 | i feel like i'm reading marketing propaganda these when i read his posts. i'm still waiting for him to say, "But wait, there's more...." like in the infomercials. |
| 04:46.24 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:46.26 | arrrghhh | seriously |
| 04:46.28 | arrrghhh | i fix mms! |
| 04:46.34 | arrrghhh | and then repeats the status quo |
| 04:46.38 | arrrghhh | but he's "working on it" |
| 04:46.43 | arrrghhh | ugh and the posts in all caps |
| 04:46.49 | arrrghhh | i'm really getting tired of his antics. |
| 04:49.41 | arrrghhh | i keep editing my post |
| 04:49.43 | arrrghhh | i should just stop |
| 04:49.45 | stinebd | sometimes i wish i cared as much as you guys |
| 04:49.49 | stinebd | i'd get so much more done |
| 04:49.53 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 04:53.27 | surge919 | 3rd kernel panic today.. http://pastebin.com/HAwJY6au |
| 04:53.50 | arrrghhh | surge919, i think you're making your phone anxious. |
| 04:54.07 | arrrghhh | htcraphael_reset: Soft reset done. |
| 04:54.14 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:54.42 | surge919 | its been cranky since I put the latest test kernel on it. |
| 04:55.26 | arrrghhh | hrm. just for fun, try a new data.img. |
| 04:55.38 | arrrghhh | feel free to rename your current one, assuming you have the headroom on the card. |
| 04:56.29 | surge919 | will do |
| 04:56.36 | arrrghhh | SurfaceFlinger |
| 04:56.38 | arrrghhh | blew up |
| 04:56.40 | arrrghhh | that's odd |
| 04:57.37 | surge919 | i think i've seen surfaceflinger in 2 or 3 of my other logs... what is that? |
| 04:59.47 | arrrghhh | stinebd can probably answer that better than i |
| 04:59.52 | arrrghhh | something with graphics rendering |
| 05:00.42 | rpierce99 | flings things to and/or from the surface |
| 05:01.20 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:01.29 | arrrghhh | http://source.android.com/porting/display_drivers.html |
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| 05:07.01 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's goin on man, been pretty quiet... |
| 05:09.07 | stinebd | dont bother him, he's doing some quality control work |
| 05:09.55 | randomblame | He's decided to save more power by disabling mddi entirely |
| 05:09.57 | arrrghhh | hahaha good point. |
| 05:10.01 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:10.24 | stinebd | we're shutting down arm11 now |
| 05:10.58 | stinebd | so when linux boots, it calls a random 10 digit american number, kills the apps processor and lasts for 3 months on battery |
| 05:11.17 | stinebd | take THAT windows mobile |
| 05:11.19 | randomblame | and if you want to call anyone else you'll just have to yell reallly really loud |
| 05:11.21 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:11.21 | arrrghhh | win |
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| 05:33.06 | arrrghhh | peace guys |
| 05:33.45 | surge919 | trying a new data.img... if i get more kernel panics, i'll post them here..thanks |
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| 10:59.30 | Cotulla | ~seen dcordes |
| 10:59.32 | apt | dcordes is currently on #oe, last said: 'bye'. |
| 10:59.47 | Cotulla | ping dcordes |
| 11:09.16 | gauner1986 | ehy cotulla |
| 11:09.52 | Cotulla | hey |
| 11:09.57 | Cotulla | how is it? |
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| 12:25.00 | Curious_ | Cotulla do you have good news for us |
| 12:25.03 | Curious_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.05 | Curious_ | gsensor |
| 12:25.08 | Curious_ | bla bla |
| 12:25.33 | imilka | who needs 720p |
| 12:25.45 | Curious_ | PEOPLE |
| 12:25.52 | Curious_ | who need quality |
| 12:26.00 | Cotulla | ya dunno why they such love to 720p |
| 12:26.04 | Cotulla | it's strange |
| 12:26.17 | Cotulla | it make bad thinks in my brain ^^ |
| 12:26.24 | Curious_ | Cotulla, use vga |
| 12:26.47 | Curious_ | make a photo of your face from the pixelized video!, |
| 12:26.48 | Cotulla | maybe we got 720lovers demonstations soon |
| 12:26.56 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:27.11 | Curious_ | wtf does that mean |
| 12:27.11 | Curious_ | ,:D |
| 12:27.25 | imilka | it will |
| 12:27.26 | imilka | LAAAAAAG |
| 12:27.39 | imilka | well no, it will |
| 12:27.40 | Curious_ | make a NONLAGGY ONE |
| 12:27.41 | imilka | LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG |
| 12:27.43 | Curious_ | OVERCLOCK THE CAMERA |
| 12:27.48 | Curious_ | DON'T PISS ME OFF |
| 12:27.54 | Cotulla | lolo |
| 12:28.01 | Cotulla | I can stretch it up to 1080p |
| 12:28.05 | Cotulla | enough for u? |
| 12:28.14 | imilka | 7200p |
| 12:28.15 | Curious_ | NEVER |
| 12:28.32 | Cotulla | why? |
| 12:28.43 | Curious_ | why should be enough |
| 12:28.46 | Curious_ | ? |
| 12:28.53 | Curious_ | you limited mind |
| 12:29.00 | imilka | BUY DIGITAL CAMCORDER :D |
| 12:29.10 | Cotulla | just can't get enough |
| 12:29.11 | Curious_ | imilka do you have digital camcorder like LEO |
| 12:29.23 | imilka | no i have mobile phone like LEO\ |
| 12:29.24 | imilka | :D |
| 12:29.27 | Curious_ | yah |
| 12:29.29 | Curious_ | then stfu |
| 12:30.11 | Cotulla | what is 'stfu'? |
| 12:30.12 | Curious_ | but first gsensor fix should be fine |
| 12:30.20 | Curious_ | SHUT THE FFUCCCK UP |
| 12:30.24 | Cotulla | is it not fixed yet? |
| 12:30.28 | Curious_ | NO |
| 12:30.31 | Cotulla | why? |
| 12:30.33 | Curious_ | waits for you |
| 12:30.38 | imilka | lol |
| 12:30.40 | Curious_ | there is a hack but it isn't good |
| 12:30.43 | Cotulla | Rajko tells me he wanna fix it |
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| 12:31.00 | Curious_ | hehehe, |
| 12:31.02 | imilka | it's bad because gsensor doesn't write 720p yeah? :D |
| 12:31.04 | Curious_ | tell him rajko |
| 12:31.18 | Curious_ | [14:30] <Cotulla> Rajko tells me he wanna fix it |
| 12:31.23 | Curious_ | meaning gsensor |
| 12:31.32 | Curious_ | lyer! |
| 12:31.49 | Cotulla | ask him? |
| 12:31.56 | Curious_ | Rajko |
| 12:32.01 | Curious_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.03 | Curious_ | and can you? |
| 12:32.22 | Curious_ | wanting doesn't mean anything btw |
| 12:32.27 | Curious_ | i want to fix it too, |
| 12:32.30 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 12:32.37 | Cotulla | we know this |
| 12:32.40 | Curious_ | so fix it |
| 12:32.46 | Curious_ | PLZxD |
| 12:32.47 | Cotulla | where logic? |
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| 12:32.52 | imilka | i still don't understand what's wrong with gsensor |
| 12:32.55 | imilka | should i stfu? :D |
| 12:33.04 | Curious_ | you betta |
| 12:33.42 | Curious_ | i am gonna make gsensor game |
| 12:33.44 | Cotulla | SHUT THE FFUCCCK UP what this means? |
| 12:33.57 | Curious_ | cotulla |
| 12:33.59 | Curious_ | you fake? |
| 12:34.03 | Curious_ | idiot? |
| 12:34.04 | Curious_ | troll? |
| 12:34.05 | Cotulla | me? yes |
| 12:34.19 | Curious_ | ok fix gsensor then i tell you |
| 12:34.20 | Curious_ | :D |
| 12:34.22 | Cotulla | I am wrong one, I can't fix gsensor |
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| 12:34.53 | Cotulla | which game? |
| 12:34.53 | Curious_ | don't make me swear to you |
| 12:34.57 | Curious_ | my GAME |
| 12:35.01 | Cotulla | who stops u |
| 12:35.03 | Cotulla | :P |
| 12:35.08 | Curious_ | fucking buggy gsensor |
| 12:35.18 | Curious_ | or buy me another phone |
| 12:35.20 | Curious_ | would u |
| 12:35.21 | Curious_ | _? |
| 12:35.26 | Cotulla | dunnp |
| 12:35.38 | Curious_ | then fix it |
| 12:35.45 | Curious_ | i will send you some sugar |
| 12:35.47 | Curious_ | special one |
| 12:35.49 | Cotulla | fuck off, I am listening Get The Balance Right |
| 12:36.01 | Cotulla | :P |
| 12:36.01 | Curious_ | you should listen to "I just had Sex" |
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| 12:36.37 | Curious_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o |
| 12:36.40 | Curious_ | ft. Akon |
| 12:36.42 | Curious_ | anyway |
| 12:36.43 | Curious_ | i gotta go |
| 12:36.50 | Curious_ | fix it when i come |
| 12:37.00 | Curious_ | i wanna rock my game |
| 12:37.06 | Cotulla | wtf? |
| 12:37.15 | Curious_ | wtf for wtf? |
| 12:37.31 | Cotulla | dcordes pls bun him and me :D |
| 12:37.36 | Curious_ | :D |
| 12:37.38 | Curious_ | hehe |
| 12:37.39 | Curious_ | gg |
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| 12:38.27 | Cotulla | ~seeen Curious_ |
| 12:38.29 | Cotulla | ~seen Curious_ |
| 12:38.31 | apt | curious_ <8bb30df3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.179.13.243> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 52s ago, saying: 'gg'. |
| 12:38.38 | Cotulla | ~seen cockpoo |
| 12:38.38 | apt | cockpoo <8bb3cf67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.179.207.103> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 26d 9h 28m 43s ago, saying: 'i bet a dog can make you in 1'. |
| 12:38.48 | imilka | lol |
| 12:38.57 | Cotulla | just check for true |
| 12:39.15 | imilka | ~seen mdeejay |
| 12:39.15 | apt | mdeejay <~mdeejay@46.182.128.248> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 1d 21h 38m 53s ago, saying: 'git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_leo cool'. |
| 12:39.41 | Cotulla | u like CyanogenMod? |
| 12:40.49 | imilka | it crashes when i turn wi-fi on |
| 12:40.50 | imilka | so no |
| 12:40.50 | imilka | :D |
| 12:41.09 | Cotulla | no, I about whole system |
| 12:42.05 | imilka | well i don't really see anything useful in it except wi-fi/gps etc controls in notification bar |
| 12:44.29 | gauner1986 | thats the most useful thing ever |
| 12:45.32 | imilka | but is it the only useful thing in cm? |
| 12:45.32 | imilka | :D |
| 12:45.57 | Cotulla | small size also |
| 12:46.29 | imilka | stock system weights less :) |
| 12:46.43 | Cotulla | stock? |
| 12:46.59 | imilka | without cm |
| 12:47.00 | imilka | :) |
| 12:47.06 | Cotulla | try to get it at first :P |
| 12:47.58 | Cotulla | anyway both looks awful without sense honestly |
| 12:49.06 | imilka | it just need some time to customize :) |
| 12:49.21 | imilka | while sense looks nice right after install |
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| 12:51.19 | MN_ | there's an offical cm7 rom for hd2 :) |
| 12:52.03 | Cotulla | okay our break from trolls ends :D |
| 12:54.28 | MN_ | lol bye im going back to chat :p |
| 12:54.55 | Cotulla | heh. we wins today two times! :P |
| 12:55.29 | MN_ | forget it im staying lol |
| 12:55.35 | Cotulla | oh shit |
| 12:55.36 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:56.11 | MN_ | nah only joking im gone |
| 13:01.45 | gauner1986 | let the trolls be |
| 13:01.49 | gauner1986 | T_T |
| 13:02.20 | Cotulla | why? |
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| 13:04.03 | gauner1986 | they also need a place to exist :D |
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| 13:08.53 | MN_ | yes the trolls belong in chat :p |
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| 16:32.02 | dcordes | ~pong Cotulla |
| 16:32.03 | apt | Cotulla: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 16:33.29 | Cotulla | hey |
| 16:33.38 | Cotulla | just come home |
| 16:33.41 | dan1j3l | hi |
| 16:33.45 | dcordes | how's it going ? |
| 16:33.50 | Cotulla | not bad |
| 16:33.52 | Cotulla | how are u? |
| 16:34.13 | Cotulla | wanna tell u, a lot of spam in htc-linux wiki |
| 16:34.14 | dcordes | I'm fine, thanks ! |
| 16:34.18 | Cotulla | :( |
| 16:34.41 | dcordes | yes, it is very annoying |
| 16:34.49 | Cotulla | maybe u should do something with it |
| 16:34.57 | dcordes | Jobs_In_The_Mountains |
| 16:35.13 | Cotulla | dunno how they pass recapture |
| 16:35.20 | dcordes | I am waiting for the magic mediawiki wizard to magically fix it ... |
| 16:35.44 | Cotulla | maybe u should add number of changes limit per minute or something |
| 16:35.44 | imilka | it exists |
| 16:35.44 | dcordes | Somebody explained the mechanism of how to hack the recaptcha |
| 16:35.48 | imilka | DELETE * FROM your_database |
| 16:35.49 | dcordes | it is known weakness |
| 16:36.08 | dcordes | Cotulla: there is a function called throtteling |
| 16:36.34 | Cotulla | really annoying |
| 16:36.38 | dcordes | NetRipper: maybe you can help with the wiki desaster ? |
| 16:36.38 | Cotulla | u open recent changes |
| 16:36.48 | dcordes | yes recent changes is an important tool ... |
| 16:36.48 | Cotulla | and got a lot whole page of spam |
| 16:36.50 | Cotulla | :( |
| 16:36.51 | dcordes | and it's fucked up |
| 16:37.08 | Cotulla | u tried my x11 driver? |
| 16:37.11 | dcordes | there is a way to remove spam without showing the removal changes in recent changes |
| 16:37.23 | dcordes | no, sorry. I was too busy with learning |
| 16:37.30 | Cotulla | okay |
| 16:38.11 | dcordes | I think the main problem is user creation |
| 16:38.27 | Cotulla | hm ? |
| 16:38.34 | Cotulla | u can create pages without user |
| 16:38.37 | Cotulla | like I do it :P |
| 16:38.38 | imilka | recaptcha doesn't help? i thought it's one of the best captcha solutions |
| 16:38.51 | imilka | at least it wast last time i used php |
| 16:38.52 | dcordes | we might add email confirmation for new user creation and make it 'registered only' |
| 16:39.05 | dcordes | imilka: not in case of wiki.htc-linux.org |
| 16:39.12 | Cotulla | anyway |
| 16:39.39 | Cotulla | maybe allow only trusted users to edit something |
| 16:39.50 | Cotulla | most ppl just read wiki |
| 16:40.04 | imilka | so you can't edit page without captcha, what's the problem? or it's easily passed by bots? |
| 16:40.09 | imilka | or they're not bots? |
| 16:40.27 | Cotulla | as well I saw few trolls actions |
| 16:40.28 | dcordes | yeah the reason for not doing it was to not restrict access => more content |
| 16:41.03 | dcordes | imilka: it seems like common schemes. very bot like |
| 16:41.24 | dcordes | we have an old version of mediawiki |
| 16:41.32 | imilka | strange, don't understand how can they pass recaptcha |
| 16:41.35 | dcordes | but the captcha plugin is recent I think |
| 16:42.02 | dan1j3l | anyway clean up wiki and restrict access... |
| 16:42.26 | dcordes | dan1j3l: Oh a volounteer for cleaning it up! Nice |
| 16:42.29 | Cotulla | as well some trolls think they can change page context |
| 16:42.30 | imilka | yeah, i think it's not a big problem to register for those who really know what to edit and would like to do it |
| 16:42.36 | Cotulla | like it was with magldr page... |
| 16:42.52 | dcordes | imilka: true |
| 16:44.40 | Cotulla | hm |
| 16:44.40 | Cotulla | http://forum.xda-developers.com/ |
| 16:44.41 | Cotulla | down? |
| 16:44.54 | JesusFreak316 | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/forum.xda-developers.com looks like it. :/ |
| 16:45.01 | rpierce99 | Cotulla: yep |
| 16:45.04 | dcordes | Cotulla: same here |
| 16:45.07 | Cotulla | heh |
| 16:45.11 | Cotulla | it become slow |
| 16:45.13 | Cotulla | last week |
| 16:45.31 | rpierce99 | Cotulla: it's been down less than an hour, i was just there |
| 16:45.37 | dan1j3l | dcordes: i have some spare time this weekend, so i will go through wiki and read it a bit... :) |
| 16:45.38 | Cotulla | honestly don't understand them well - they make first page is very long with new devices |
| 16:46.40 | dcordes | Ok here's the plan: When home I will see if I can a) enable email confirmation for user creation (don't know about mail server etc. ...) b) enable write access for registered users only (easy). |
| 16:47.11 | dan1j3l | wiki hosted on windows or linux server ? |
| 16:47.24 | imilka | mail server is not needed |
| 16:47.26 | dcordes | dan1j3l: cool thanks |
| 16:47.28 | dcordes | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features |
| 16:48.42 | dcordes | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_vandalism |
| 16:49.39 | dcordes | # Special:RecentChangesCleanup - clean up recent changes from vandalism (requires Extension:Recent Changes Cleanup) (always the last step) |
| 16:50.49 | dan1j3l | hmmm... just crashed chrome on netbook while opening wiki... :( |
| 16:50.56 | Cotulla | lol |
| 16:50.58 | dcordes | dan1j3l: linux |
| 16:51.09 | dcordes | imilka: how can it send the confirmation email then ? |
| 16:51.23 | dcordes | Cotulla: 17:45 < Cotulla> honestly don't understand them well - they make first page is very long with new devices |
| 16:51.27 | dcordes | Cotulla: what do you mean ? |
| 16:51.33 | dcordes | Cotulla: do you think first page layout is bad ? |
| 16:51.53 | imilka | with this |
| 16:51.57 | imilka | if you're interested :P |
| 16:51.58 | imilka | http://php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php |
| 16:52.08 | imilka | it doesn't need smtp server, it's only an option |
| 16:53.14 | dcordes | imilka: ok thanks ! |
| 16:53.57 | dan1j3l | hmmm.. how to delete page on wiki ? |
| 16:55.46 | dan1j3l | ok, found reason, insufficient permissions... :p |
| 16:55.50 | Cotulla | dcordes, I mean XDA forum layout |
| 16:56.05 | Cotulla | they have too many devices at first forum page |
| 16:56.55 | dcordes | Cotulla: I agree. It takes long to load on slow device / connection |
| 16:57.01 | Cotulla | yes |
| 16:57.33 | dcordes | Cotulla: Regarding XDA layout, I do not understand the new HD2 subforum scructure: Why are there so many non-android subforums while there is only two threads for meego/ubuntu ?! |
| 16:57.42 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 16:57.49 | Cotulla | they can be merged to one |
| 16:58.02 | dcordes | I asked moderator already but they ignore |
| 16:58.19 | Cotulla | maybe post thread |
| 16:58.29 | JesusFreak316 | I'd say, at least until Meego takes off or something just have a non-android linux forum. |
| 16:58.30 | dcordes | good idea |
| 16:58.54 | Cotulla | honestly it looks now like meego will be x86 only |
| 16:59.02 | dcordes | JesusFreak316: that's what I proposed (except for the time limit; they can keep it like that) |
| 16:59.06 | Cotulla | bcz nokia will release device with x86 cpu |
| 16:59.16 | dcordes | Cotulla: I heard that as well |
| 16:59.24 | Cotulla | it means arm fail for meego |
| 16:59.41 | dcordes | not necessarily |
| 16:59.54 | dcordes | what is th economic reason for x86 ? |
| 17:00.00 | dcordes | intel ? |
| 17:00.06 | JesusFreak316 | Well, if, theoretically, meego gets big or something it might be wise to split it but that's looking pretty unlikely. |
| 17:00.08 | Cotulla | but who will release meego devices with arm? |
| 17:00.09 | dan1j3l | actually meego is quite nice and sleek on netbooks, |
| 17:00.38 | dan1j3l | played with it yesterday on my asus... |
| 17:00.39 | dcordes | JesusFreak316: depends.. if Cotulla fixes ALSA for us I see vivid future for non-android Linux user space on HD2 |
| 17:00.39 | Cotulla | I think other manufactures prefer Android for arm |
| 17:00.39 | dcordes | :D |
| 17:01.50 | Cotulla | and I heard, Nokia will use own applications for meego |
| 17:01.52 | Ondalf | hopefully not Ovi Suite though... |
| 17:01.52 | Cotulla | it means default ones are trash probably |
| 17:01.52 | JesusFreak316 | Well, I would love it but most XDA'ers don't seem to grasp the awesomeness of a REAL mobile linux distribution. |
| 17:01.59 | thepace | JesusFreak316 users need software |
| 17:02.08 | Cotulla | users need good working things |
| 17:02.12 | thepace | if platform cant offer proper software it will be dumped |
| 17:02.18 | thepace | like old good winmo |
| 17:02.26 | Cotulla | I think now no stable gnu mobile linux distributions |
| 17:03.31 | JesusFreak316 | thepace: yum intall app. :) Ok, I know those aren't exactly mobile friendly mostly but still that's a lot of good software available. |
| 17:03.55 | Ondalf | huh, redhat based :o |
| 17:04.08 | JesusFreak316 | Oh, whoops. :) |
| 17:04.39 | Cotulla | software must be have mobile UI |
| 17:04.41 | thepace | JesusFreak316 compare sw to top android/ios apps , is there any ? |
| 17:05.09 | dcordes | JesusFreak316: yes people don't see the options it gives them to have good command of the platform |
| 17:05.42 | Cotulla | anyway u know my choose :P |
| 17:05.50 | Ondalf | well, people doesn't need that much command if one is only looking for phone for calling - othervise i'd support this too |
| 17:05.55 | JesusFreak316 | Meego has openoffice. Look through your favorite linux distribution's software repository; as many of them are open source they are available on ARM too. |
| 17:06.37 | Cotulla | meego need a lot of resources, better run W8 ;) |
| 17:07.06 | thepace | JesusFreak316 is that openoffice usable on 3,5-4" display? ;) |
| 17:07.11 | Cotulla | :D |
| 17:07.19 | JesusFreak316 | Not really but you get the idea. :) |
| 17:07.21 | Ondalf | JesusFreak316: bear in mind that even though your favourite distribution runs on ARM, it doesn't mean you can play ADOM on it because no binary support nor sources available... |
| 17:08.06 | dan1j3l | time to eat :) bbl |
| 17:08.09 | dcordes | guys I need to get home & prepare some food. thermodynamic got me hungry. will update on the wiki protection progress! |
| 17:08.17 | dcordes | dan1j3l: lol :D |
| 17:08.17 | Cotulla | okay |
| 17:08.19 | Cotulla | bb |
| 17:08.22 | JesusFreak316 | Of course, not all programs are open source but many, maybe most, are and are available for arm. |
| 17:08.30 | dcordes | bye |
| 17:08.38 | Cotulla | nobody need PC programs on small 4.0 display |
| 17:09.15 | JesusFreak316 | Yes, but sometimes there are no good mobile alternatives to pc programs. |
| 17:09.32 | thepace | Cotulla is it expected to see port of wmp7 update when its released? i need to decide what to use on hd2 this info would be helpful :) |
| 17:09.45 | JesusFreak316 | Good to have them available at least. |
| 17:10.14 | Cotulla | I will say only one thing: choose by ur heart ;) |
| 17:10.28 | Ondalf | well, not most at all... also, limits of mobile arch sets are pretty rough. running apache2 on that kinda hardware isn't very clever imo or ssh-server |
| 17:10.58 | Ondalf | most of apps doesn't even know difference of little endian or big endian |
| 17:11.12 | Cotulla | it looks more like pervertion |
| 17:11.16 | Ondalf | neither compile on other archs due it |
| 17:11.17 | thepace | my heart feels that android touch driver needs patching for better response :) |
| 17:11.42 | JesusFreak316 | Well, most the stuff I use is available at least. :) But yeah, that is true. Basically, I'm kinda hoping meego can replace the ubuntu builds for me. |
| 17:11.43 | Cotulla | what u mean/ |
| 17:12.00 | thepace | try to write some text |
| 17:12.08 | thepace | on winmo, on android and on wmp7 |
| 17:12.21 | Cotulla | and? |
| 17:12.33 | thepace | only wmp7 has good performance |
| 17:12.34 | Ondalf | btw, does meego have general source for applications, like repositories that debian derivates of redhat derivates use? |
| 17:13.01 | Cotulla | there RPM packages used |
| 17:13.07 | thepace | even on old winmo it sucked without reg tweaks ( screen response time if i remember corectly) |
| 17:13.38 | Cotulla | I am using WM61 with stylus and wanna give award to it "best mobile OS" :P |
| 17:15.07 | Ondalf | gentoo on mobiledevice <3 |
| 17:15.17 | Ondalf | that'd be extremely FAST to update xD |
| 17:16.13 | Cotulla | pervertionj |
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| 17:16.41 | Ondalf | distcc is awesome invention :) using gentoo in ancient 9" eeepc 16G |
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| 17:27.42 | JesusFreak316 | Forum's back up. |
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| 17:29.58 | dan1j3l | dcordes: i will need some permissions to clean spam from wiki |
| 17:30.45 | dan1j3l | if that's possible |
| 17:31.30 | gauner1986 | hi dan |
| 17:31.36 | dan1j3l | hi gau |
| 17:31.53 | dan1j3l | what's up |
| 17:32.02 | gauner1986 | got wifi tethering on cm7 working |
| 17:32.03 | gauner1986 | for leo |
| 17:32.10 | gauner1986 | native* |
| 17:32.23 | dan1j3l | nice :p |
| 17:32.32 | dan1j3l | what was wrong |
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| 17:46.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | did i guys tell you u-boot is a total mess? |
| 17:47.09 | Cotulla | mo |
| 17:47.10 | Cotulla | no |
| 17:47.15 | Cotulla | tell me now |
| 17:47.16 | Cotulla | it |
| 17:47.19 | Cotulla | :P |
| 17:48.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | now i do. it is awful. because virtually every line is guarded by an ifdef, so it relies heavily on conditional compilation. to make it worse, there is no good dependency-solving configurator with UI (like kbuild in linux where you can make menuconfig). you have to dig all the options yourself from configs |
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| 17:49.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | that's why i'm writing opensex. that's what i'll call my bootloader for SEX1 |
| 17:49.26 | Cotulla | ya |
| 17:49.32 | gauner19861 | isnt it time for flat jokes? |
| 17:49.32 | Cotulla | same with #ifdefs appliced to linux |
| 17:50.12 | Cotulla | ya <3 9650 |
| 17:50.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: for linux at least you have a decent UI (ncurses) config which tracks dependencies. |
| 17:50.39 | Cotulla | how ur driver handle vsync? |
| 17:50.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | mine? |
| 17:51.28 | Cotulla | ya |
| 17:51.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | you mean, the one for ov9640? |
| 17:51.48 | Cotulla | for 9650 |
| 17:51.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | i don't have 9650 |
| 17:52.02 | Cotulla | okay 9640 |
| 17:52.08 | ali1234 | Alex[sp3dev]: barebox.org |
| 17:53.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | ali1234: yeah, seen that. still it is a pain to port something without jtag. so working from scratch is easier. and i do suffer from NIH sometimes |
| 17:53.30 | ali1234 | whatever. |
| 17:53.35 | Cotulla | not it's clear :) |
| 17:53.38 | Cotulla | *now |
| 17:53.54 | Cotulla | why so many open source projects with same goals |
| 17:54.26 | Cotulla | bcz only authors understand anything |
| 17:55.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep.. the more niche the product is, the higher chances the code is unreadable |
| 17:55.25 | Cotulla | and it's too different things to write clear code or write code to show off |
| 17:55.40 | ali1234 | most developers can't do either |
| 17:56.11 | Cotulla | I looked yesterday to L4 sources, and there all much more easy to understand than in linux kernel |
| 17:56.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh well. i want to do both, but now i want at least to understand *how* actually ARM initialisation works before i could start porting any existing bootloader |
| 17:56.36 | ali1234 | kernel code is always easy to understand |
| 17:56.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, OKL4 is very nice. |
| 17:56.56 | ali1234 | C language just isn't complex enough to write bad code |
| 17:57.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | +1 for that |
| 17:57.14 | ali1234 | when you compare it with perl, python, C++, java, etc |
| 17:57.16 | ali1234 | C# |
| 17:57.30 | ali1234 | all of those have way more pontless crap that is only ever used to "show off" as you put it |
| 17:57.43 | Cotulla | Alex, why not base ur SEXloader on L4? |
| 17:57.47 | ali1234 | but in C either it works or it doesn't |
| 17:58.09 | Cotulla | ali1234, we see examples: whole linux kernel on C and bad code |
| 17:58.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i want to do it manually. with my own hands. when done, i'll consider alternatives |
| 17:58.36 | Cotulla | it's enough to put 50% of functions to headers and declare them as "inline" to make any code bad |
| 17:59.07 | ali1234 | says you |
| 17:59.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's so bad about that (and why is it worse than the lack of proper documentation?) |
| 17:59.32 | Cotulla | because when u explore something u need switch everytime |
| 18:00.09 | Cotulla | yeah L4 is nice |
| 18:00.18 | Cotulla | but there also some kind of shit I found yesterday :( |
| 18:00.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | let me guess.. it doesn't have winapi? |
| 18:00.42 | Cotulla | I found that it doesn't actually support right memory space switches on ARMv5 |
| 18:00.48 | Cotulla | only via f*cked FASS |
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| 18:25.02 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, how goes it |
| 18:27.03 | emwe | arrrghhh: hey. you as the walking issue book ... do you remember any cellular or data issues for our cdma devices? (likely older ones) e.g. no data connection or some such? |
| 18:27.20 | arrrghhh | yea, AFAIK they all experience it |
| 18:27.23 | arrrghhh | random drops in service |
| 18:27.24 | emwe | [acl]: hi. got data up btw. looks like all our smd channels are stream channels. not packet ones. |
| 18:27.39 | emwe | arrrghhh: but they initially work, yes? |
| 18:27.43 | arrrghhh | emwe, yes. |
| 18:27.44 | WisTilt2 | hey arrrghhh. at my office today for a change so hoping to work on this stuff all day. dont have that kernel ready yet but should shortly |
| 18:27.53 | arrrghhh | assuming there aren't any PEBKAC errors... |
| 18:28.06 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, np just wanted to see how you were doing, how things are going ;) |
| 18:28.25 | arrrghhh | i don't think tiad8's loyal followers liked my posts. oh well. |
| 18:28.31 | [acl] | emwe: oo i smell a commit |
| 18:28.55 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: love your dedication last night:) |
| 18:29.12 | [acl] | huh? |
| 18:29.17 | arrrghhh | yea man, surprised you managed to find the forum at all. |
| 18:29.24 | arrrghhh | posted while hammered on a rooftop lol |
| 18:29.27 | [acl] | ahh |
| 18:29.42 | WisTilt2 | drunk on a roof and still staying in touch, dedicated dev you are |
| 18:29.43 | [acl] | lol.. i called in sick |
| 18:29.48 | emwe | [acl]: just needs cleanup and investigation. a bit strange though everything. for "older" cdma devices smd1 is not mapped to smd7 and smd1 is treated as a packet stream. for all others (including your cdma rhod) all channels are treated as stream channels. |
| 18:29.48 | [acl] | im didnt go to work today |
| 18:30.30 | [acl] | WisTilt2: the nand gang is up to no good.. needed to make sure they wont be able to count on me for the night |
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| 18:32.15 | arrrghhh | nate seems to be takin the lead on that, which is cool. he's rolling on it like a freight train! |
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| 18:32.48 | [acl] | arrrghhh: yeah dood.. so im gonna let him handle all that. I got some other fish to fry.. |
| 18:33.00 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 18:33.05 | emwe | arrrghhh: you got same rhod version then acl? if so, which is it? |
| 18:33.12 | arrrghhh | emwe, RHOD400 |
| 18:33.27 | emwe | [acl]: you also rhod400? |
| 18:33.30 | [acl] | yup |
| 18:33.42 | emwe | ah ok, so same. then i don't need dmesg info ;) |
| 18:33.54 | arrrghhh | haha np |
| 18:35.00 | emwe | silly smd stuff. even cr2's commit message from 2009 is strange. |
| 18:35.25 | [acl] | dang.. may need to read old irc logs to figure that out then |
| 18:35.42 | [acl] | i went way back myself when doing the nand research .. |
| 18:36.09 | [acl] | brb |
| 18:37.06 | emwe | arrrghhh: anything known to you that doesn't work at all for some cdma devices? netloc or some such? |
| 18:37.17 | arrrghhh | netloc for sure |
| 18:37.28 | arrrghhh | there was discussion that the RIL doesn't support the +BSINFO call |
| 18:37.47 | emwe | arrrghhh: any cdma or just some? |
| 18:37.54 | arrrghhh | AFAIK that's the only thing that CDMA is lacking when comparing to GSM |
| 18:37.58 | arrrghhh | emwe, any CDMA. |
| 18:38.07 | emwe | i see, so it's not related ;) |
| 18:38.08 | emwe | haha |
| 18:38.34 | arrrghhh | probably not :P |
| 18:39.04 | Cotulla | Alex, here? |
| 18:39.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: yep |
| 18:39.27 | Cotulla | give me link to ur 9640 drv pls |
| 18:40.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree;f=drivers/media/video;hb=refs/heads/master |
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| 18:49.05 | arrrghhh | [acl], don't you have a RAPH800? |
| 18:49.17 | [acl] | i have that too yes |
| 18:49.18 | [acl] | :-) |
| 18:49.28 | emwe | not a dmesg by chance? |
| 18:49.34 | emwe | thx arrrghhh ;) |
| 18:49.41 | arrrghhh | np |
| 18:49.41 | [acl] | let me check |
| 18:49.44 | emwe | [acl]: if you can dig one up, weoulbd be cool. |
| 18:51.52 | emwe | bbl. supper preps. |
| 18:53.12 | [acl] | emwe: http://pastebin.com/EPp1CvLW |
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| 19:37.56 | WisTilt2 | sir stinebd: quick question, does grim reaper run only at boot? |
| 19:38.04 | stinebd | grim reaper? |
| 19:38.39 | WisTilt2 | android side, during system init |
| 19:39.26 | stinebd | no clue what you're referring to |
| 19:39.55 | WisTilt2 | class GrimReaper : public IBinder::DeathRecipient |
| 19:40.04 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 19:40.33 | stinebd | ok, that would be a class then. it doesn't "run" ;) |
| 19:41.21 | WisTilt2 | it seems to be running at times as it is sending a sigkill to system_server |
| 19:43.08 | stinebd | judging by the source, system_server instantiates a GrimReaper on init, which exists for the life of the process |
| 19:45.55 | stinebd | if all services die and system_server is left running alone, grimreaper sends a sigkill and then zygote restarts it |
| 19:48.23 | stinebd | WisTilt2: were you able to make those kernel changes we talked about yesterday? |
| 19:50.00 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: yes i did:) i need to look further into this grimreaper because it seems to be run during this condition im working on. |
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| 20:27.26 | Markinus | hi |
| 20:27.31 | gauner1986 | hey markinus |
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| 20:43.48 | emwe | [acl]: thx for the pastebin. |
| 20:44.10 | arrrghhh | emwe, long supper! :P |
| 20:45.53 | emwe | arrrghhh: gf also prepared a hotpot for tomorrow and i had to glorious task to roll minced meat into little balls. took some time ;) |
| 20:46.06 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 20:46.12 | arrrghhh | hotpot? |
| 20:46.17 | arrrghhh | like a crockpot? |
| 20:46.21 | emwe | that's what my dictionary told me ;) |
| 20:46.23 | rpierce99 | or a hotdish? |
| 20:46.30 | emwe | stew? |
| 20:46.36 | arrrghhh | ah ok. |
| 20:46.38 | arrrghhh | fair enough. |
| 20:46.46 | arrrghhh | never heard of 'hotpot' before :P |
| 20:46.56 | arrrghhh | your dictionary LIES haah |
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| 20:47.02 | emwe | http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed§Hdr=on&spellToler=&search=eintopf |
| 20:47.04 | emwe | ^^ |
| 20:47.19 | rpierce99 | mulligan, lols |
| 20:48.01 | arrrghhh | google translates it to stew, and i know that word :P |
| 20:49.05 | emwe | i always stick to leo.org. old habbit. |
| 20:49.14 | arrrghhh | never used it personally. |
| 20:49.26 | arrrghhh | can't say any one translation site is flawless. |
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| 21:00.51 | arrrghhh | GlemSom, ! |
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| 21:11.51 | GlemSom | arrrghhh, !! |
| 21:11.53 | GlemSom | :P |
| 21:12.23 | arrrghhh | duuuuuude |
| 21:12.26 | arrrghhh | how goes it? |
| 21:12.33 | GlemSom | Good! :) |
| 21:12.42 | arrrghhh | yea? can i harrass you about autobuild? we miss it so... |
| 21:12.45 | GlemSom | Working on painting the living room now... So... getting there! :D |
| 21:13.04 | arrrghhh | damn guy, i'd assume the move-in isn't completed... |
| 21:13.15 | GlemSom | Actually, while the paint is drying I find time to wire cables to the mediecenter AND my buildhost... :) |
| 21:13.35 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:13.37 | MassStash | ooo baby.... haha |
| 21:13.54 | GlemSom | Needed to pain first, since I need.. uhhm.. dunno what it's called... cases for cables... = |
| 21:13.58 | arrrghhh | MassStash, for the record, i AM a dick. |
| 21:14.00 | GlemSom | ? |
| 21:14.02 | MassStash | yea mediacenter and buildhost |
| 21:14.39 | MassStash | lol fully aware, excitement for the tech, not you mang |
| 21:15.01 | arrrghhh | just had some public disagreements with tiad |
| 21:15.09 | GlemSom | arrrghhh, Actually, you're one of the really helpful on XDA! :P |
| 21:15.11 | arrrghhh | i guess i should've PM'd him, but that really did enfuriate me. |
| 21:15.31 | arrrghhh | MassStash, when devs are considering stopping because of him? it's a problem. |
| 21:15.31 | MassStash | oh yea, lol |
| 21:15.40 | MassStash | right, i agree |
| 21:15.47 | MassStash | he's f*in weird as shit anyway |
| 21:15.53 | arrrghhh | well, you didn't seem to in the thread. |
| 21:16.11 | MassStash | that i wasn't wuite sure of |
| 21:16.16 | MassStash | quite* |
| 21:16.16 | arrrghhh | neither do his loyal followers, i've bitten my tongue and not responded again... it's been tempting. |
| 21:16.25 | GlemSom | btw, I got a HTC wildfire from work... And, it's really snappy compared to my diamond - but the screen resolution really sucks! :/ |
| 21:16.36 | arrrghhh | ha |
| 21:16.41 | arrrghhh | compared to your DIAM or just in general? |
| 21:16.42 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 21:16.44 | MassStash | yea sucks but its same as the tp2 eh? |
| 21:16.48 | GlemSom | it's nearly impossible to use it as a browser! |
| 21:16.59 | GlemSom | Well, in general really.. |
| 21:17.09 | arrrghhh | that's too bad. what is the res? |
| 21:17.22 | MassStash | yea man, sorry if that didn't sound too "on your side" i'll make that more aware in hte near future... gotta hop in shower with girl before she goes to wrok tho, brb |
| 21:17.26 | GlemSom | think it's like 320x200... |
| 21:17.37 | arrrghhh | holy crap that sucks. |
| 21:17.38 | MassStash | nooooooooo really? htought it was that of the tp2's... |
| 21:17.48 | GlemSom | 320 x 240 it was... |
| 21:18.07 | GlemSom | it sucks compared to the diamond! |
| 21:18.17 | arrrghhh | 240 x 320 pixels |
| 21:18.19 | arrrghhh | that's sad. |
| 21:18.27 | GlemSom | even though the screen is physically larger, the low resolution just makes it useless! :/ |
| 21:18.44 | arrrghhh | yea, i'd tend to agree. that's what you get for having a free phone from work :P |
| 21:18.53 | arrrghhh | my workphone is a dumbphone, go figure. |
| 21:19.28 | GlemSom | heh yeah :P |
| 21:20.15 | GlemSom | Android seem to run quite snappy (installed cyanogenmod) - but still... The screen resolution is a show-stopper for me! |
| 21:20.17 | arrrghhh | GlemSom, so... we were actually starting to look at another host for the autobuild. please tell me not to go thru that. |
| 21:21.08 | GlemSom | arrrghhh, hehm that would be a real pain! |
| 21:21.31 | arrrghhh | yes... yes it would. we really thought you had abandoned us tho :P |
| 21:21.34 | GlemSom | arrrghhh, I have NO intentions of closing down the service! I just simply lack the time to get everything done! |
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| 21:21.50 | arrrghhh | GlemSom, lol. i'll fly over and tie up your loose ends |
| 21:22.00 | GlemSom | arrrghhh, hehehe |
| 21:22.06 | GlemSom | were are you from btw ? |
| 21:22.22 | arrrghhh | colorado |
| 21:22.36 | GlemSom | Ohh That's quite a flight then! |
| 21:22.42 | GlemSom | is from Denmark |
| 21:23.07 | arrrghhh | haha, indeed |
| 21:24.04 | GlemSom | I haven't quite had the time to follow up... Do we have any major patches waiting ? |
| 21:24.56 | arrrghhh | since 12/4? |
| 21:24.59 | arrrghhh | there's been a couple. |
| 21:25.16 | arrrghhh | F22's been taking the reins and just compiling them himself and posting them on XDA haha |
| 21:25.25 | GlemSom | ffs this is annoying... I've submitted a kernel patch a few weeks ago... And now some dude is writing to my email asking for help regarding setting up the device... :/ ffs... |
| 21:25.36 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:25.55 | GlemSom | Ok, nice of F22! |
| 21:26.07 | arrrghhh | yea, he's been a real trooper :P |
| 21:26.10 | GlemSom | did he get all kernel modules, compatcache and stuff too ? |
| 21:26.17 | arrrghhh | i'd assume so |
| 21:26.22 | GlemSom | Ok... |
| 21:26.23 | arrrghhh | people have been using them no prob |
| 21:26.35 | GlemSom | We have non-android users too you know.... ;) |
| 21:26.37 | arrrghhh | well, other than the PEBCAK problems. |
| 21:26.47 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 21:26.56 | arrrghhh | oh right the ubuntu folks |
| 21:27.05 | arrrghhh | yea there was some hiccups and learning experiences at first. |
| 21:27.13 | arrrghhh | but he's been doing it for 2 months now dude! :P |
| 21:27.21 | emwe | GlemSom: heya. did your autobuild service include compat-wireless-msm? |
| 21:27.22 | GlemSom | yeap... imo kinda cool... Not that I would switch from Android to Ubuntu.. But still... cool "proff of concept" :) |
| 21:27.31 | GlemSom | emwe, Yes |
| 21:27.31 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 21:27.49 | emwe | GlemSom: for what purpose actually i may ask? |
| 21:28.08 | GlemSom | emwe, iirc the Ubuntu builds cannot use the Android WiFi driver |
| 21:28.12 | emwe | GlemSom: bcm for rhod is coming from kernel, no? and tiwlan from the separate sta_dk... package? |
| 21:28.16 | emwe | ah! |
| 21:28.21 | arrrghhh | +1 GlemSom |
| 21:28.34 | emwe | GlemSom: so i take it, not required for android madness... |
| 21:28.54 | GlemSom | emwe, Correct, not even used in Android anymore.. (since 1.5 iirc?) |
| 21:28.57 | arrrghhh | shouldn't be. |
| 21:29.07 | GlemSom | emwe, Though, it does NOT harm... It's not loaded for android... |
| 21:29.11 | emwe | after the switch to tiwlan, no i guess |
| 21:29.19 | GlemSom | emwe, exactly |
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| 21:30.07 | stinebd | wl12xx comes from compat-wireless, no? |
| 21:30.17 | emwe | yap |
| 21:30.27 | stinebd | which is needed for non-android |
| 21:30.28 | GlemSom | stinebd, yeap... We used that in the "old" days... |
| 21:30.47 | GlemSom | though tiwan became better and android kinda depend in it... So it was simply easier... |
| 21:30.55 | emwe | stinebd: is it known btw, that frx04 pppd is way more verbose then the one in rootfs? |
| 21:31.18 | stinebd | emwe: verbose? |
| 21:31.27 | stinebd | as in loggy? |
| 21:31.44 | emwe | stinebd: it spit's out the data what it sends and receives. yes, more verbose in logs. not just recv sent messages |
| 21:31.52 | emwe | just thought to mention |
| 21:31.55 | stinebd | is that good or bad? |
| 21:32.01 | emwe | was good for me ;) |
| 21:32.05 | stinebd | k |
| 21:32.07 | arrrghhh | i'd say bad for performance, good for debugging. |
| 21:32.17 | stinebd | probably not bad for performance |
| 21:32.18 | emwe | and there is like 5 or 6 wlan_loader instances when doing a find on / |
| 21:32.36 | stinebd | emwe: of course, it gets bind-mounted like 18 times :P |
| 21:32.37 | emwe | arrrghhh: you do dialup often then if that is a concern :P |
| 21:32.56 | emwe | and divided by 3 yes. that explains the ~6 |
| 21:33.19 | emwe | stinebd: anything there is to take care of when trying to get tiwlan going? |
| 21:33.37 | emwe | but hm... i got data working now on .35. should i still care?... |
| 21:33.40 | stinebd | see /init.etc/wifi/ |
| 21:33.57 | stinebd | uh yes. lots of people use wifi instead of mobile data :P |
| 21:34.07 | arrrghhh | cheap bastards |
| 21:34.09 | stinebd | especially me |
| 21:34.30 | emwe | is it worth evaluating compat-wireless again for wl12xx or rather stick to tiwlan? |
| 21:34.35 | stinebd | yes! |
| 21:34.45 | emwe | yes to what? |
| 21:34.53 | stinebd | evaluate wl12xx again |
| 21:35.09 | emwe | hmpfs :) |
| 21:35.19 | stinebd | an upgraded wpa_supplicant could fix wep issues on rhodium, but would break all other devices (ti based) |
| 21:35.20 | emwe | still a long route to go. |
| 21:35.34 | stinebd | tiwlan does not work with wpa_supplicant 0.6.x |
| 21:35.46 | stinebd | while wl12xx would |
| 21:36.01 | emwe | so wl12xx and all use the regular stack |
| 21:36.05 | stinebd | of course we'd need to find out if wpa_supplicant 0.6.x would actually fix that |
| 21:36.05 | emwe | 80211 was it? |
| 21:36.12 | stinebd | mac80211 |
| 21:36.56 | arrrghhh | stinebd, if you want me to test anything let me know. |
| 21:37.08 | stinebd | i will be needing a rhod tester at some point, yes |
| 21:37.19 | stinebd | and a bonus for you, the testing image i toss out will be gingerbread :P |
| 21:37.26 | arrrghhh | is your pig |
| 21:37.34 | arrrghhh | hoorah! |
| 21:37.48 | emwe | stinebd: i saw your shitload of commits. |
| 21:37.55 | arrrghhh | awards stinebd one internets |
| 21:37.55 | emwe | so all the legacy libs can still work? |
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| 21:38.19 | stinebd | emwe: sensors is still not working |
| 21:39.13 | emwe | stinebd: good luck fixing it! |
| 21:39.49 | emwe | stinebd: btw, you RIL expert. Can you quickly look at our requestNeighboringCellIds() and do you agree it misses a return in front of the error: goto? |
| 21:40.10 | arrrghhh | lol that's some top-notch encouragement emwe |
| 21:40.44 | emwe | i do my best ;) |
| 21:40.48 | emwe | stinebd: like this: |
| 21:41.10 | emwe | + at_response_free(p_response); |
| 21:41.10 | emwe | + LOGV("-%s: FINE\n", __func__); |
| 21:41.10 | emwe | + return; |
| 21:41.10 | emwe | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.11 | emwe | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.11 | emwe | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.11 | emwe | + at_response_free(p_response); |
| 21:41.11 | emwe | + LOGV("-%s: ERR\n", __func__); |
| 21:41.20 | emwe | oh, apart from the logs perhaps ;) |
| 21:42.01 | crawling | later |
| 21:43.43 | stinebd | emwe: yes, that's correct |
| 21:44.30 | stinebd | perhaps this is a good time to transition those repositories |
| 21:45.28 | emwe | for ginger ale? |
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| 22:00.13 | F22 | GlemSom: Yes, I've integrated compcache, tiwlan, and compat-wireless into my kernel builds. I saw that they were in your builds, so I took the time to add them to mine as well, although as arrrghhh has mentioned, there were a few hiccups at first. I've had a request for cifs support, but i've held off looking into that since i was expecting you to be back at any time. too many other things on my plate anyway. |
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| 23:40.31 | bAnga | :-\ |
| 23:40.50 | TheXev | o_o |
| 23:41.04 | bAnga | Just installing andriod on my omnia 2 so |
| 23:41.24 | bAnga | If i had some error's, i can ask it to you |
| 23:41.41 | TheXev | probably not me... perhaps others. |
| 23:42.00 | TheXev | Just remember, it might take time for people to get back to you, and you should post your problem and wait a bit. |
| 23:42.24 | TheXev | cause if you wait for someone without posting your problem, they are unlikely to respond. |
| 23:42.26 | arrrghhh | ...samsung? not in hurrrr |
| 23:42.42 | Willd | Urr |
| 23:43.02 | arrrghhh | stfu Willd |
| 23:43.08 | Willd | arrrghhh: <3 |
| 23:43.09 | bAnga | Samsung omnia 2 :p windows 6.1 xD |
| 23:43.27 | arrrghhh | bAnga, didja check the name of the room? |
| 23:43.42 | bAnga | HTC-LINUX |
| 23:43.45 | bAnga | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/irc-chat |
| 23:43.47 | bAnga | :-\ |
| 23:43.49 | arrrghhh | emphasis on the htc |
| 23:43.50 | TheXev | he already said he's intalling droid on it :P |
| 23:44.09 | TheXev | oh, no one supports Samsung droid ports.. owchies |
| 23:44.23 | Willd | arrrghhh: No wonder you get all the noobs here :( |
| 23:44.31 | arrrghhh | ? |
| 23:45.04 | Willd | arrrghhh: When the chat is so "easily" accessible |
| 23:45.21 | arrrghhh | eh |
| 23:45.25 | bAnga | o_o |
| 23:45.26 | arrrghhh | don't blame me for that decision :P |
| 23:45.34 | Willd | arrrghhh: Just sayin' :) |
| 23:45.41 | bAnga | is he on drugs? |
| 23:45.47 | arrrghhh | me? yes. |
| 23:45.53 | Willd | Me, not so much |
| 23:45.56 | arrrghhh | Willd, i know, i agree.... |
| 23:45.57 | bAnga | Willd |
| 23:46.19 | Willd | bAnga: Why'd you think that? :) |
| 23:48.51 | bAnga | Because your wierd |
| 23:48.59 | Willd | bAnga: So are you, what's your point? :) |
| 23:49.01 | bAnga | And i'm the one thats from Holland |
| 23:49.06 | Hunterkll | http://i.imgur.com/W5GSO.jpg |
| 23:49.26 | TheXev | wtf |
| 23:49.26 | bAnga | http://ba.onlinestereo.org/Pics/18%2B!.jpg |
| 23:49.44 | Hunterkll | random porn is randonm |
| 23:49.57 | TheXev | that is the greated photoshop of all time. |
| 23:49.58 | arrrghhh | not in here dude. |
| 23:50.00 | bAnga | Its a fake pic, that girl is from Harry Potter. |
| 23:50.04 | arrrghhh | maybe in -chat. |
| 23:50.08 | arrrghhh | bAnga, uhm... duh. |
| 23:50.12 | arrrghhh | but don't do that crap in here |
| 23:50.17 | TheXev | greatest* |
| 23:50.17 | arrrghhh | or post that crap in here? |
| 23:50.19 | arrrghhh | not sure what you're doing. |
| 23:50.24 | arrrghhh | don't want to know |
| 23:50.26 | TheXev | jeeze.. I sound like a 2-year old |
| 23:50.30 | arrrghhh | especially based on that link |
| 23:51.39 | TheXev | why is there an embrella in that pic? Next to a freakn' toilet? |
| 23:51.42 | TheXev | In case of a shit storm? XD |
| 23:51.46 | *** join/#htc-linux MassStash (~MassStash@c-67-175-41-173.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:55.06 | bAnga | Got this problem, i'm installing Andriod on my SD Stick "8 GB" and it says thats not enough, the file is: 180143KB and the stick is 7383824KB |
| 23:55.31 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:55.46 | bAnga | o_O |
| 23:55.52 | arrrghhh | that's the size of the stick, what else is on thar? |
| 23:55.55 | *** join/#htc-linux furtardo (~mks@nat/yahoo/x-amrhtpxjhixmfgme) |
| 23:56.39 | bAnga | 160MB in it but that isn't even 100 because i cleaned it. |
| 23:56.40 | TheXev | is the SD Card compatable with the phone? Normally the high speed cards give crap on any phone. |
| 23:56.45 | arrrghhh | i'd prefer you put everything in bytes from now on bAnga |
| 23:56.54 | bAnga | o_o |
| 23:56.58 | TheXev | lol |
| 23:56.59 | arrrghhh | it is a samsung. |
| 23:57.11 | bAnga | Its not about the phone |
| 23:57.20 | bAnga | Its about the STICK and the PROGRAM. |
| 23:57.30 | TheXev | Also, is the card formated FAT32, or some other filesysstem like ExFat? |
| 23:57.39 | bAnga | hmmmmm |
| 23:57.57 | arrrghhh | not like the individual file is bigger than 4gb. |
| 23:57.59 | bAnga | I need to do that on my PC, gonna try that other think first |
| 23:58.07 | arrrghhh | bAnga, this really isn't a support channel either. |
| 23:58.09 | bAnga | thing* |
| 23:58.31 | arrrghhh | i'm not sure what you need support on tho, you might need to see someone local for your "issues" |
| 23:58.51 | bAnga | http://82.201.100.9:8000/IPAD_538JUIZE |
| 23:59.11 | bAnga | just be cool o_o |
| 23:59.19 | bAnga | I will ask nothing........... :-D |
| 23:59.42 | arrrghhh | bAnga, wtf |
