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| 00:02.43 | XirXes | had it finally |
| 00:03.11 | rpierce99 | we are idiots, all of us, sitting here hoping for SoDs and system_server to hog all of our processor :) |
| 00:03.24 | Willd | Muppets.. |
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| 00:04.54 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 00:04.56 | arrrghhh | seriously |
| 00:05.26 | F22 | oddly enough system_server hasn't been a problem today. |
| 00:05.36 | F22 | i think it knows its days are numbered. :P |
| 00:06.59 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:07.03 | rpierce99 | system_server seems to behave differently for me than others, I get it almost without fail on boot, but it never pops up just working with the phone throughout the day |
| 00:07.19 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 00:07.24 | arrrghhh | i think that's status quo for cdma. |
| 00:07.42 | arrrghhh | cuz the same thing happens to me. every single boot it's horrid, but i never get it after the initial nightmare. |
| 00:08.33 | F22 | me too, oddly enough. i think wistilt2's latest kernel is like prozac for system_server. ;) |
| 00:08.43 | hyc | I see a big slowdown on boot, but it's all due to mmcqd getting backlogged |
| 00:08.45 | F22 | er i don't think i'm running his latest yet. |
| 00:08.49 | XirXes | http://pastebin.com/yjNhEk5k dmesg |
| 00:08.59 | arrrghhh | sweet! thanks XirXes |
| 00:09.02 | hyc | I think partly because the init script always copies a bunch of stuff from /etc to /data |
| 00:09.09 | hyc | er, data.img |
| 00:09.13 | arrrghhh | ew. you opened that in windows didn't you XirXes :P |
| 00:09.29 | XirXes | windows didnt do it i swear |
| 00:09.35 | arrrghhh | ? |
| 00:09.38 | F22 | yep hyc. that's true. |
| 00:09.50 | XirXes | i dont know what caused the double spacing |
| 00:10.49 | hyc | We could avoid some of that, perhaps by touching an empty file "/data/data_is_valid" |
| 00:10.56 | rpierce99 | pastebin probably interprets \r\n as two newlines |
| 00:11.01 | hyc | un reboot, if that file exists, don't do the copies |
| 00:11.11 | hyc | if you want your /data to be rewritten, rm the file |
| 00:11.58 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, yea but only windoze would put that in thar |
| 00:12.31 | rpierce99 | i think any good text editor can switch newline mode |
| 00:12.32 | XirXes | the cause was dumping it strait to my comp like you told me too the other day. i just dumped it to my sd card and its gone |
| 00:12.49 | XirXes | http://pastebin.com/SBNNTtpp |
| 00:12.59 | XirXes | im out suckas |
| 00:14.02 | stinebd | hyc: the only copy of (potentially) major consequence to /data on boot AndroidApps |
| 00:14.03 | arrrghhh | weird |
| 00:14.48 | hyc | stinebd: hmmm. I don't think I have any significant apps there |
| 00:16.34 | hyc | I would love to be able to track down where all those writes are coming from |
| 00:17.33 | stinebd | after android init has started? |
| 00:18.17 | hyc | hm. I guess that's right, init.android was running by then, since otherwise I couldn't adb shell in to see the system load |
| 00:19.11 | stinebd | i'd guess dalvik, mediaserver, sqlite, etc |
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| 00:36.00 | hyc | Oh, re: my query about the carrier names, when I installed the G1 libhtc_ril.so on my TP2, it also showed the new network names |
| 00:36.15 | hyc | so probably a lot of the bulk of that library is just a table of old and new network names |
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| 00:40.16 | hyc | ah, yep. running strings on the library shows carrier names |
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| 00:54.10 | Pohket | Anyone with a Rhodium/TP2 and near a WEP connection? |
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| 01:21.57 | toastcfh | yo |
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| 02:07.54 | arrrghhh | hyc, droidwall. really. |
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| 02:38.48 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's up my good man |
| 02:39.32 | WisTilt2 | hey. wish that kmsg sod log didnt have that garbled section, i think that had good into during the sod on its way to sleep |
| 02:39.33 | arrrghhh | i don't think i'm sitting on any logs.... hopefully i gave ya enough, turns out no body knows how to use adb lol. writing a how-to now. |
| 02:39.58 | arrrghhh | damn. yea, he posted it garbled like that, i don't know how he pulled it. |
| 02:40.07 | arrrghhh | i'll ask if we can get the compressed untouched version |
| 02:40.12 | Pohket | I adb pulled the dropbox ;) |
| 02:40.12 | WisTilt2 | still good to have as many as possible to compare differences |
| 02:40.20 | arrrghhh | Pohket, wasn't your logs :P |
| 02:40.21 | WisTilt2 | hey Pohket, long time |
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| 02:40.37 | Pohket | I know |
| 02:40.46 | Pohket | Got a real Android phone |
| 02:40.49 | Pohket | =) |
| 02:41.07 | Pohket | then came back today and figured out what was wrong with WEP |
| 02:41.29 | Pohket | or - well - at least how to get a connection to a WEP-enabled router |
| 02:41.35 | WisTilt2 | Pohket: on an off this subject, do you guys monitor for a large solar array here in central calif do you know? |
| 02:41.51 | Pohket | I don't think we *specifically* monitor |
| 02:41.57 | Pohket | But someone uses our products out there |
| 02:42.10 | Pohket | Bought 5 units recently? |
| 02:43.10 | WisTilt2 | probably your product. one of our long time wireless customers just bought around that number for a huge solar array that we supply all the wireless telemetry for. 6500 panels on trackers and on 20 acres, sweet looking system. |
| 02:44.29 | Pohket | Nice - Will have to get a picture of that =) |
| 02:44.48 | WisTilt2 | i'll take one next time i drive by, its quite impressive |
| 02:45.49 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: you might mention to the tester if we could also get the system_server log file with that name in it so i can track whats happening from userland along with the kernel logging. |
| 02:46.41 | arrrghhh | oh logcat? |
| 02:46.50 | arrrghhh | i can pull one for ya now if you want |
| 02:47.08 | WisTilt2 | its one of the files in dropbox yes |
| 02:47.25 | arrrghhh | ah didn't realize it was there too. |
| 02:47.28 | arrrghhh | i'll get you fresh logs :P |
| 02:48.49 | WisTilt2 | those will be very helpful from anyone that has had system server anytime recent on any kernel |
| 02:49.07 | stinebd | poor system_server. its reputation has been tarnished |
| 02:51.12 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, do you want me to just pull logs, or should i 'resolve' the system_server issue and give you a full log of it? |
| 02:52.02 | hyc | arrrghhh: droidwall, I find it indispensible when traveling |
| 02:52.29 | arrrghhh | hyc, how is it useful? |
| 02:52.30 | WisTilt2 | pull without fixing is fine |
| 02:53.08 | WisTilt2 | ill bb in a bit, wife just got home with some nice bbq'd ribs for dinner:) |
| 02:53.30 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 02:54.42 | hyc | arrrghhh: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1989 |
| 02:54.50 | hyc | it's useful in avoiding $800 roaming charges |
| 02:55.19 | hyc | every time you enable data, all of the google apps try to connect back to google.com |
| 02:55.33 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:55.35 | arrrghhh | cdma ftw |
| 02:55.37 | hyc | meanwhile all I wanted was to use connectbot |
| 02:55.54 | arrrghhh | pull the SIM? |
| 02:55.57 | hyc | droidwall lets me control which apps are allowed to use the network... |
| 02:56.09 | hyc | nope, I still need the SIM because I'm using the network for connectbot ssh |
| 02:56.28 | arrrghhh | so you're wanting to get nailed with roaming charges? |
| 02:56.30 | arrrghhh | just not as much. |
| 02:56.33 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 02:56.41 | hyc | right. An ssh session is cheap. |
| 02:56.55 | hyc | it's all the other crap that tries to download in the background that costs. |
| 02:57.38 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 02:57.44 | hyc | ultimately what I want is simply to have the final decision. If I run an app in the foreground, then I accept the cost. |
| 02:57.48 | arrrghhh | i guess i'd never run into that kind of a situation. |
| 02:57.54 | arrrghhh | you're probably in the minority as well dude ;P |
| 02:57.58 | arrrghhh | er. yea. |
| 02:58.00 | hyc | if the app is something I'm unaware of, running in the background, then I don't accept it. |
| 02:58.47 | hyc | well, no. I'm far from the only person who has traveled to Europe with a G1 and come home with a multi-hundred-to-thousand dollar bill. |
| 02:59.11 | hyc | people were screaming about it all over the t-mobile forums for months |
| 02:59.11 | arrrghhh | i'm talking about in the scope of our project... |
| 02:59.25 | hyc | oh |
| 02:59.34 | arrrghhh | i wouldn't connect my phone in a foreign country, unless i had a local SIM |
| 02:59.50 | hyc | yeah, I do that now too |
| 03:00.24 | hyc | but even then, it's still an issue. local prepaid SIMs are still per-byte charges, just slightly less expensive |
| 03:01.00 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 03:01.11 | arrrghhh | my phone wouldn't work in europe... so it wouldn't really even occur to me. |
| 03:01.27 | hyc | also that first incident, I had data roaming turned off on my G1. It allowed the network to run because I was on T-Mobile UK and the phone thought it wasn't roaming. |
| 03:02.10 | arrrghhh | lol, now that's just dumb. |
| 03:02.12 | hyc | anyway, that may have been a bug with Android 1.0, but the overall issue remains |
| 03:02.39 | arrrghhh | never had an android phone. |
| 03:02.52 | hyc | and it's no big deal to enable the netfilter module in the kernel |
| 03:02.53 | arrrghhh | never travelled in europe with a cell phone either :P |
| 03:03.32 | hyc | I would say you're missing out, but obviously it comes with a price tag ;) |
| 03:04.26 | hyc | I looked thru the build and most of the netfilter framework is already present, it's just missing the module that lets you track connections by their owner uid |
| 03:05.03 | arrrghhh | oh i've been to europe |
| 03:05.05 | arrrghhh | couple of times |
| 03:05.31 | arrrghhh | just didn't do it with a celly |
| 03:06.14 | hyc | my last trip to Ireland was in November, probably the first trip I've taken where I used google maps exclusively to navigate |
| 03:06.55 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 03:08.34 | arrrghhh | alright, the adb how-to can rot for the time being. |
| 03:08.41 | arrrghhh | gotta go cook dinnar |
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| 03:11.00 | randomblame | just make some nachos |
| 03:11.03 | randomblame | with bacon |
| 03:11.18 | randomblame | oh wait that's what I want |
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| 03:18.11 | arrrghhh | randomblame, no cheese |
| 03:18.36 | randomblame | tragic |
| 03:21.02 | arrrghhh | i kno |
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| 03:37.29 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2, got a SoD from your kernel that I grabbed yesterday. (or was it monday)... u want logs or am I running an old one at this point? |
| 03:39.43 | NeoMatrixJR | chucks a frozen TP2 @ WisTilt2 and runs away.... |
| 03:41.23 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, assuming you were running the kernel that had the SoD logging traps in there... |
| 03:41.27 | arrrghhh | what kernel were you on? |
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| 03:42.49 | NeoMatrixJR | date on file is 1/31/11 |
| 03:44.04 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 03:44.10 | arrrghhh | well post it anyways. |
| 03:44.14 | arrrghhh | can't shurt |
| 03:44.31 | NeoMatrixJR | on the forum? Thought WT2 didn't check them much? |
| 03:44.35 | arrrghhh | s/shurt/hurt/ |
| 03:44.40 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, on here... pastebin? |
| 03:45.01 | NeoMatrixJR | ok |
| 03:46.08 | arrrghhh | thx |
| 03:46.42 | NeoMatrixJR | woah...crapload of files. didn't realize you guys updated the method to grab the file |
| 03:49.21 | randomblame | hmm remember when usb 2.0 was really fast |
| 03:49.26 | randomblame | what happened |
| 03:49.46 | arrrghhh | progress |
| 03:50.16 | randomblame | I hate progress - it makes me broke |
| 03:50.20 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 03:50.48 | randomblame | The 2/2 kernel still hasn't gone sod on me |
| 03:51.07 | randomblame | I've had a few system server related issues though |
| 03:51.57 | randomblame | I think sod is fixed |
| 03:52.13 | NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh: nevermind. the whole file is garbage. when I booted this time it "fixed" corrupt files...might have "fixed" this... :( |
| 03:52.27 | arrrghhh | do wha? |
| 03:52.33 | arrrghhh | do you have the libc.so mounted? |
| 03:52.38 | NeoMatrixJR | I'm trying to copy my whole dropbox folder to the SD card. I'll check it out tomorrow and see if anything's interesting. |
| 03:53.02 | NeoMatrixJR | and I'll update the kernel since there's a new one out today |
| 03:53.13 | randomblame | I had an app decide it wasn't installed anymore - then I restarted and it was back |
| 03:53.50 | NeoMatrixJR | randomblame: had calendar do the same thing when I ran it from launcher then I opened the app tray and it worked fine from there.... |
| 03:54.14 | NeoMatrixJR | had a number of apps screw up recently. Like the datastore for them went corrupt |
| 03:54.16 | randomblame | mine wasn't in the app tray - the shortcut was still on my home screen |
| 03:54.53 | randomblame | yeah there's some weirdness going on |
| 03:56.00 | NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh wait, is WisTilt2 working on system_server or SoD? the thread looks like we're looking at system_server.... |
| 03:56.09 | stinebd | both |
| 03:56.17 | stinebd | he's not an iphone. he can multitask. |
| 03:56.22 | NeoMatrixJR | :D |
| 03:56.29 | randomblame | lol |
| 03:56.43 | randomblame | he's wp7 service pack 1 |
| 03:56.59 | arrrghhh | randomblame, i've seen crap disappear from the app drawer |
| 03:57.12 | arrrghhh | and it seems we've resolved SoD, honestly. |
| 03:57.26 | randomblame | yeah sod seems to be spanked |
| 03:57.27 | arrrghhh | system_server he's also hackedly resolved, but he wants to fix the root cause, which i am all for. |
| 03:57.39 | randomblame | yeah otherwise it'll have to be fixed later |
| 03:57.49 | randomblame | when we realize it's causing another issue |
| 03:58.26 | randomblame | but the mystery of the disapearing apps is weird I wonder what that's about |
| 03:58.37 | WisTilt2 | ok cant eat anymore ribs. arrrghhh: who's phone and what condition was that dmesg.txt in your last email from? |
| 03:58.53 | arrrghhh | system_server, and mine. |
| 04:00.17 | WisTilt2 | the dmesg.txt file couldn't be under system server condition, you sure it wasn't a boot after that condition? |
| 04:00.51 | WisTilt2 | whole boot sequence is normal all the way through |
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| 04:01.05 | WisTilt2 | wait, my bad |
| 04:01.17 | NeoMatrixJR | oh, I think I got the file. My first transfer didn't work. Hang on, I'll pastebin |
| 04:01.22 | WisTilt2 | too much wine with ribs:) missed timestamp 185 and up |
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| 04:01.38 | arrrghhh | man i hate this laptop. |
| 04:01.50 | arrrghhh | anyhoo, WisTilt2 - just had the oddest seemingly SoD ever. |
| 04:01.52 | WisTilt2 | how much of my nasty comments did you miss? |
| 04:01.55 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:01.57 | arrrghhh | all of them. |
| 04:01.58 | NeoMatrixJR | http://pastebin.com/E2ei9ypi |
| 04:02.02 | WisTilt2 | the dmesg.txt file couldn't be under system server condition, you sure it wasn't a boot after that condition? |
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| 04:02.05 | NeoMatrixJR | is old kernel though... not 2/2 |
| 04:02.11 | WisTilt2 | wait, my bad |
| 04:02.12 | WisTilt2 | the dmesg.txt file couldn't be under system server condition, you sure it wasn't a boot after that condition? |
| 04:02.27 | WisTilt2 | man i need to stop now |
| 04:02.29 | stinebd | what is happening here |
| 04:02.40 | WisTilt2 | i missed timestamp 185 so it has good info |
| 04:02.45 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, positive, but i didn't exactly let its run its course. |
| 04:03.04 | stinebd | wis is drunk, this is good |
| 04:03.08 | arrrghhh | anyhoo, my phone just did something very odd. i assume someone was calling me, because the backlight turned on... but then the panel didn't wake. |
| 04:03.10 | stinebd | things get fixed when mixed with alcohol |
| 04:03.33 | arrrghhh | LED went from green to orange, and is still orange. bl is still on, but no panel. i can't adb... but the kbd bl turns on/off... |
| 04:03.44 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: true, not drunk enough though lol |
| 04:03.46 | arrrghhh | i'm guessing i should just reboot and pull logs. |
| 04:04.16 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh how long has phone been up since last boot? |
| 04:04.31 | arrrghhh | few hours, like 3? |
| 04:04.40 | WisTilt2 | see if kbd automatically times out after 5secs |
| 04:04.51 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 04:05.14 | arrrghhh | no adb, nothing in lsusb |
| 04:05.17 | WisTilt2 | device getting warm yet or has it not been long enough? |
| 04:05.35 | arrrghhh | i'd guess hasn't been long enough. feels about room temp |
| 04:05.55 | WisTilt2 | and lcd backlight is totally off, not just dim? |
| 04:06.13 | arrrghhh | backlight is definitely on |
| 04:06.20 | NeoMatrixJR | Ok, Must go before wife kills me. It's sleep time. Later! |
| 04:06.26 | arrrghhh | phone screen is "bright" but black/blank. |
| 04:06.32 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, peace |
| 04:06.43 | WisTilt2 | you have autobl turned off i bet also right? |
| 04:07.06 | arrrghhh | no it should be on |
| 04:07.17 | WisTilt2 | if not, see if light sensor is still responding then to the panel |
| 04:07.17 | arrrghhh | can't exactly check tho :P |
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| 04:07.33 | randomblame | arrrghhh - my wifes rhod did that exactly last night |
| 04:07.50 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, hrm.. doesn't appear to be adjusting bl, no. |
| 04:08.04 | randomblame | backlight came on suddenly panel did not, couldn't get it to turn back on - that was the 1/30 kernel tho |
| 04:08.05 | WisTilt2 | put finger over sensor for a few, see if it dims then put up to light. backlight will adjust without display on |
| 04:08.16 | NeoMatrixJR | oh, arrrghhh/WisTilt2: before I go, on the 2/2 kernel do I still need the libc.so mounted? |
| 04:08.33 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, it would help, yes. |
| 04:08.43 | NeoMatrixJR | ok, thanks! |
| 04:08.45 | NeoMatrixJR | bai |
| 04:09.01 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, that's what i've been doing... holding it up right in the light, then holding my hand over the sensor. no change. |
| 04:09.39 | WisTilt2 | ok at least the micropksc side is still running but sounds like micropklt is locked |
| 04:09.47 | WisTilt2 | guess reboot and get logs |
| 04:10.14 | arrrghhh | kk |
| 04:10.28 | WisTilt2 | randomblame did kbd bl still work in that condition? |
| 04:10.30 | arrrghhh | so weird. |
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| 04:12.32 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: do you know if there are any variables that userland can read cell signal value? |
| 04:12.46 | stinebd | variables? |
| 04:13.07 | WisTilt2 | sysfs or anything |
| 04:13.13 | stinebd | no |
| 04:13.26 | WisTilt2 | how does android display sig bars? |
| 04:13.31 | stinebd | rild |
| 04:13.36 | WisTilt2 | figures |
| 04:13.43 | randomblame | wistilt2: it did nothing else seemed to |
| 04:13.55 | stinebd | why do you ask? |
| 04:14.23 | WisTilt2 | need to see if that daemon has any way of returning signal level and current bsid of the cell its registered on |
| 04:18.23 | arrrghhh | alright WisTilt2. juicy log time |
| 04:18.36 | randomblame | here's a dmesg should be some good system server data in it http://pastebin.com/BS4uXXr1 |
| 04:18.48 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: btw, that kmsg sod log from the rhod 210 user this afternoon was running my jan 31 kernel so no good info, he needs to get latest kernel |
| 04:18.57 | WisTilt2 | ok looking now... |
| 04:19.19 | arrrghhh | damnit. |
| 04:19.29 | arrrghhh | didn't think it was right... people people. |
| 04:21.25 | randomblame | any particular printks that should be in it? |
| 04:21.47 | WisTilt2 | man you had a serious system server that boot arrrghhh! |
| 04:21.55 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, tell me about it. |
| 04:21.55 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 04:22.03 | WisTilt2 | worst ive seen so far |
| 04:22.07 | arrrghhh | lol thanks |
| 04:22.21 | arrrghhh | hrm. i can't view these last_kmsg files |
| 04:22.32 | arrrghhh | well one of them i can, one i can't. |
| 04:22.37 | arrrghhh | i guess i'll post the one i can read lol |
| 04:23.04 | WisTilt2 | and you need to check and make sure your autobl is actually on cuz logs show its off, but could be the cpu pegged and hasnt made it to the autobl init code yet. |
| 04:23.06 | arrrghhh | well the one i can read is relatively worthless. |
| 04:23.12 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 04:23.51 | arrrghhh | yup, brightness is set to auto. |
| 04:23.52 | WisTilt2 | dont you have any file with system_server somewhere in the filename in dropbox? |
| 04:24.03 | arrrghhh | yes i do... |
| 04:24.15 | arrrghhh | i was just trying to pull logs from this last SoD issue i had. |
| 04:25.02 | WisTilt2 | ok. let me see that log when you can, i can match it up with the kernel output |
| 04:25.10 | hyc | I've had a whole bunch of updates disappear after a reboot. I think basically the shutdown sequence isn't waiting long enough for filesystem to flush on unmount. |
| 04:25.14 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sure 1 sec |
| 04:25.33 | hyc | then on next boot, fsck obliterates the remains... |
| 04:25.35 | WisTilt2 | this last boot your phone nearly went into full lockup i'd say. |
| 04:25.46 | arrrghhh | wow, lots of "Buffer I/O error on device loop1 |
| 04:26.01 | arrrghhh | it basically does every boot haha |
| 04:26.06 | hyc | arrrghhh: SD card issues |
| 04:26.13 | arrrghhh | yea, i'd say so. |
| 04:26.15 | hyc | so your class4 does the same as my class10 |
| 04:26.20 | arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/DZfALpRz |
| 04:26.43 | WisTilt2 | wrong file |
| 04:26.53 | WisTilt2 | what filename is that from? |
| 04:26.54 | arrrghhh | i |
| 04:27.01 | arrrghhh | i'm trying to get you logs from the last SoD |
| 04:27.10 | arrrghhh | i'll paste the system_server file now |
| 04:27.15 | WisTilt2 | oh, continue:) thought that was system server |
| 04:27.22 | arrrghhh | sorry :P |
| 04:27.22 | hyc | wow, love those lines 715-725 or so |
| 04:27.35 | stinebd | more wine WisTilt2? |
| 04:27.48 | arrrghhh | hrm. i've been getting character encoding issues opening these files. |
| 04:27.49 | WisTilt2 | lol |
| 04:28.04 | arrrghhh | i have to open them with open office to open them at all. |
| 04:28.45 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/qqr8TpAQ <--- there's that system_server file. |
| 04:29.59 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: something not right looking at your 2 sod logs... you have autobl enabled in the userland side right? |
| 04:30.06 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 04:30.26 | WisTilt2 | did you go to manual for awhile at all? |
| 04:30.46 | arrrghhh | nope |
| 04:31.02 | arrrghhh | at least i didn't enable it manually |
| 04:31.14 | arrrghhh | man, this i think is the log you should see... but it's full of jibberish. |
| 04:31.25 | arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/H3CaCwtj |
| 04:31.51 | arrrghhh | well, i guess just the end is full of jibberish lol |
| 04:31.59 | stinebd | hieroglyphs! |
| 04:32.28 | arrrghhh | lol seriously. |
| 04:32.35 | F22 | arrrghhh: try unzipping them on your handset first, then pulling them over. i vaguely recall having an easier time of reading them from the handset. |
| 04:32.36 | arrrghhh | mexican hieroglyphs. |
| 04:32.50 | arrrghhh | F22, really...? i just did an adb pull on the whole directory. |
| 04:33.07 | arrrghhh | the /proc/last_kmsg had jibberish too. |
| 04:33.20 | arrrghhh | so use adb shell and untar them thru adb...? |
| 04:34.39 | WisTilt2 | that last pastebin log looks like its running a kernel other than mine or from late january maybe |
| 04:35.17 | arrrghhh | says it was compiled on Feb2 8:47am PST |
| 04:35.24 | arrrghhh | that's the newest you've given me man... |
| 04:35.35 | arrrghhh | Kernel: Linux version 2.6.27.46-01253-gd53ddf6-dirty (root@wireless251) (gcc version 4.4.0 (GCC) ) #123 PREEMPT Wed Feb 2 08:47:04 PST 2011 |
| 04:35.37 | F22 | i think i piped zcat to a different name or something like that. |
| 04:35.51 | WisTilt2 | none of the mddi outputs have my logging in them |
| 04:36.16 | WisTilt2 | strange |
| 04:36.20 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, that line doesn't lie... i'm not sure. |
| 04:36.42 | arrrghhh | i've never had that issue happen before, it's like it was receiving a call and just pooped itself. |
| 04:37.36 | WisTilt2 | what was this last files name? |
| 04:37.53 | arrrghhh | SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG@1296701469600 |
| 04:38.38 | WisTilt2 | did you plug or unplug usb cable shortly before it crashed? |
| 04:38.49 | arrrghhh | well that is interesting |
| 04:38.56 | WisTilt2 | or wifi on/off |
| 04:38.57 | arrrghhh | i did that after i perceived it to crash |
| 04:39.04 | *** join/#htc-linux NeoMatrixJR_Mobi (~NeoMatrix@174-156-107-3.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 04:39.10 | arrrghhh | uhm... i was messing with wifi a lot. blame Pohket_ :P |
| 04:39.17 | Pohket_ | Yeah - sorry |
| 04:39.24 | *** join/#htc-linux rpierce99 (~rpierce99@71-82-139-28.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 04:39.31 | arrrghhh | haha np dude. |
| 04:39.41 | arrrghhh | glad i could "help" :P |
| 04:40.04 | WisTilt2 | yeah i think that crash actually was caused either by bcm power when it shut off right before it crashed, or usb up or down during the gpios it what it looks like to me |
| 04:40.04 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | WisTilt2 running 2/2 kernel now. 1st boot had system_server problem |
| 04:40.27 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi: nice, must see logs |
| 04:40.32 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: should I be running autobl |
| 04:40.42 | rpierce99 | is manual a problem? |
| 04:40.46 | WisTilt2 | doesnt matter for testing |
| 04:40.49 | arrrghhh | manual is always a problem. |
| 04:40.54 | arrrghhh | lol jk :P |
| 04:41.05 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, weird. |
| 04:41.10 | arrrghhh | it was sitting there, sleepin. |
| 04:41.11 | WisTilt2 | i just questioned arrrghhh because his logs look like he's in manual but he is really in auto |
| 04:41.13 | arrrghhh | i don't think wifi was enabled. |
| 04:41.20 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | I'll try and get them tomorrow for you. On phone now... |
| 04:41.34 | rpierce99 | logs don't lie, arrrghhh is a liar |
| 04:41.36 | rpierce99 | :P |
| 04:41.41 | WisTilt2 | wifi was on for sure but got a command to power down right before crash |
| 04:42.36 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 04:42.39 | WisTilt2 | actually, |
| 04:43.03 | WisTilt2 | it looks like wifi was powered on automatically during a tty error, hmm |
| 04:44.12 | WisTilt2 | or not, cant tell from the limited output of that line. |
| 04:44.39 | arrrghhh | hrm. if you want, i can give you my whole dropbox folder |
| 04:44.39 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | Ok I sleep now. Night. |
| 04:44.47 | arrrghhh | g'nite |
| 04:44.52 | WisTilt2 | i dont get why none of my PM outputs are showing up in your last log |
| 04:45.09 | arrrghhh | ...i don't know either. i'm on the newest kernel, for sure. |
| 04:45.39 | WisTilt2 | not a single one, very strange |
| 04:46.16 | arrrghhh | hm... |
| 04:46.20 | arrrghhh | can you give me an example?' |
| 04:46.23 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh, where did you pull the log from |
| 04:46.27 | arrrghhh | i want to make sure they show up in this dmesg. |
| 04:46.29 | rpierce99 | dropbox? |
| 04:46.37 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, well there are several... which one? |
| 04:46.45 | rpierce99 | the one you guys are questioning |
| 04:46.47 | arrrghhh | most were pulled from dropbox, yes. |
| 04:46.55 | arrrghhh | i'm assuming we're talking about the same one, so dropbox. |
| 04:47.11 | arrrghhh | the one with the I/O errors was in /proc/last_kmsg and dropbox. |
| 04:47.25 | rpierce99 | i assume you checked the last mod date on it? i'm still not convinced that folder gives reliable post-issue logs |
| 04:48.10 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: did you have your phone in full sleep for around 45mins right before the crash? |
| 04:48.35 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yup, sounds about right. |
| 04:48.44 | WisTilt2 | and it woke up during an incoming call possibly? |
| 04:48.57 | arrrghhh | yea, that's the only time i've seen the screen wake on its own in android... |
| 04:49.08 | arrrghhh | notifications don't seem to 'wake' it fully. panel/bl stay off. |
| 04:49.17 | arrrghhh | but on a phone call, obviously everything wakes. |
| 04:49.57 | WisTilt2 | ok i assume you're rebooted again and phone is ready for a test? |
| 04:50.33 | arrrghhh | i'm in android |
| 04:50.40 | arrrghhh | but i can boot back to winmo no prob, lay it on me. |
| 04:51.43 | WisTilt2 | put it in sleep for maybe a minute or so then call the phone. if it wakes ok or not give me that same last log file |
| 04:52.21 | arrrghhh | dmesg and logcat? |
| 04:52.43 | arrrghhh | i don't think those dropbox files are populated realtime. |
| 04:52.44 | WisTilt2 | whatever that 4th pastebin was, last_kmsg i think? |
| 04:52.51 | arrrghhh | kk |
| 04:53.16 | WisTilt2 | Pohket: do you know how many power modes bcm_wlan has by chance? |
| 04:55.15 | arrrghhh | pokes Pohket_ |
| 04:55.48 | F22 | the dropbox SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG* files are copied from /proc/last_kmsg by the java framework. |
| 04:56.17 | *** join/#htc-linux avinashhm (~avinash-h@192.163.20.232) |
| 04:56.32 | randomblame | I think our java framework is decaf |
| 04:56.57 | rpierce99 | F22: so when is /proc/last_kmsg populated, because it's not live. My phone has been up for hours and the last thing in there is power down |
| 04:57.04 | Pohket_ | WisTilt2 - Not sure on power modes - I think that wifi turns off when screen turns off by default |
| 04:57.10 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: that mass of loop1's in file #2 looks like sd card power was shutdown |
| 04:57.37 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea i'm not sure which is which... both were created around the same date/time it looks like. |
| 04:57.42 | Pohket_ | No other 'options' other than 'never when plugged in' and 'never' -- but not sure if there's an 'energy saver' or something like that |
| 04:57.42 | F22 | rpierce99: that's done by the kernel, when i'm not so sure. |
| 04:57.45 | hyc | WisTilt2: hard to say, it's looking for bogus sector numbers |
| 04:58.05 | WisTilt2 | Pohket_: ok thanks |
| 04:58.24 | rpierce99 | F22: My concern is since it's not live, a sudden reboot would prevent it from dumping in an error situation |
| 04:59.23 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/Dpzf3ucZ |
| 04:59.31 | randomblame | just had a reboot - might have been usb's fault |
| 04:59.33 | arrrghhh | phone was sleeping, called it and answered the call. |
| 04:59.41 | hyc | rpierce99: the idea is that the last kmsg output is in an in-memory buffer during a crash. if you warm boot, the next kernel has a chance to write the buffer out. |
| 04:59.45 | arrrghhh | randomblame, reboot to winmo? |
| 04:59.56 | hyc | but I don't think this is really viable since we have no warmboot capability here |
| 05:00.06 | randomblame | no reboot to android |
| 05:00.09 | randomblame | from android to android |
| 05:00.10 | arrrghhh | hyc, viruscrazy figured out how to harness it. |
| 05:00.15 | arrrghhh | randomblame, wtf, what system image? |
| 05:00.20 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: let me see that kmsg now. also, the first pastebin http://pastebin.com/BS4uXXr1 is that from your phone for sure? |
| 05:00.20 | randomblame | f22 |
| 05:00.27 | arrrghhh | randomblame, system image... not rootfs. |
| 05:00.31 | F22 | looks like its handled by drivers/misc/ram_console.c and fs/proc/kmsg.c |
| 05:00.37 | randomblame | frx04 |
| 05:00.57 | arrrghhh | randomblame, cuz i haven't had one o those in months. no joke. |
| 05:01.12 | randomblame | I pulled the dmesg already shall I post it |
| 05:01.26 | arrrghhh | sure |
| 05:01.46 | hyc | I'm a bit surprised that it works, since you have to protect the log data from WinMo overwriting it too |
| 05:01.56 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i posted the dmesg above. i'm not positive if that is from my phone or not, 1 sec. |
| 05:02.12 | randomblame | pastebin.com/8kadaC1v |
| 05:02.23 | randomblame | er http://pastebin.com/8kadaC1v |
| 05:02.28 | arrrghhh | lol no randomblame gave you that dmesg post WisTilt2. his phone under system_server condition. |
| 05:02.55 | WisTilt2 | ok thought so, he's the one with autobl off then:) was driving me crazy thinking it was your phone |
| 05:02.55 | randomblame | haha |
| 05:03.00 | arrrghhh | hyc, eh we're running android off of the sd entirely, winmo doesn't really touch that. |
| 05:03.02 | F22 | hyc: that may very well explain the "corruption" in the logs, winmo overwriting segments of it. |
| 05:03.09 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sorry dude. too many logs :P |
| 05:03.11 | randomblame | yeah I had it off :D couldn't read in the sunlight |
| 05:03.24 | randomblame | so autobl wasn't working too well lol |
| 05:03.27 | hyc | F22: yeah, that sounds more likely |
| 05:03.28 | WisTilt2 | should go full brightness automatically in sunlight |
| 05:03.34 | randomblame | it doesn't |
| 05:03.43 | WisTilt2 | you have same phone as me right? |
| 05:03.47 | randomblame | yeah |
| 05:04.05 | randomblame | maybe I just have too much gooo on my prox sensor |
| 05:04.08 | WisTilt2 | and manual lets it go brighter? |
| 05:04.13 | hyc | arrrghhh: running off SD doesn't make any difference. the log buffer is only in RAM; when the system crashes it can't rely on any device or filesystem drivers being intact enough to write to any file. |
| 05:04.16 | randomblame | yeah manual goes way brigh |
| 05:04.18 | randomblame | t |
| 05:04.24 | hyc | that's why the save to file has to be done by the next booted kernel |
| 05:04.47 | WisTilt2 | has to be sensor. |
| 05:04.59 | randomblame | I was kidding about the goo - though it may be broken |
| 05:05.01 | randomblame | hell if I know |
| 05:05.34 | WisTilt2 | i can change the reference voltage of the sensor and see if yours responds better in less light |
| 05:05.51 | WisTilt2 | i set it to around an average, might be too high |
| 05:06.04 | randomblame | ok |
| 05:06.21 | randomblame | autobl seems to always be the same brightness - though I saw it changing in the dmesg |
| 05:06.26 | randomblame | it's odd |
| 05:06.52 | arrrghhh | hrm, definitely does not seem the same brightness to me. |
| 05:06.59 | randomblame | let me test this |
| 05:07.00 | WisTilt2 | autobl doesnt output any logging in dmesg if its enabled. only time you'll see anything related to brightness is in manual mode |
| 05:07.02 | arrrghhh | if i hold it up to a light, gets WAY brighter. |
| 05:07.11 | randomblame | that's what I'm about to do |
| 05:07.13 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:07.37 | F22 | arrrghhh: so winmo probably sometimes overwrites pieces of it before android gets to next boot and write out the contents of the RAM buffer. |
| 05:07.50 | WisTilt2 | if you see Setting lcd-backlight brightness messages, your not getting into autobl mode |
| 05:08.24 | randomblame | ah |
| 05:09.12 | F22 | i should say linux kernel, not android. |
| 05:09.34 | randomblame | doesn't seem to be getting brighter or dimmer at all |
| 05:09.39 | randomblame | it works in phone calls |
| 05:10.00 | F22 | android just handles copying /proc/last_kmsg to dropbox. |
| 05:10.00 | WisTilt2 | F22: we need someone to make a new template mask with your kbd layout to put over our kbd's:) |
| 05:10.11 | F22 | lol |
| 05:10.15 | F22 | would be handy |
| 05:11.07 | arrrghhh | little bit of dremel |
| 05:11.13 | arrrghhh | fixed up mine reallllll good |
| 05:12.02 | randomblame | did you hear that f22 - you should change the mappings now |
| 05:12.05 | WisTilt2 | randomblame: brightness changed while in a call? |
| 05:12.11 | randomblame | wistilt2 yes |
| 05:12.24 | randomblame | but not the rest of the time |
| 05:12.39 | WisTilt2 | and you have the automatic brightness checked in the display settings for sure? |
| 05:12.50 | randomblame | for sure |
| 05:13.03 | F22 | WisTilt2: btw, there was a tilt2 bug that i fixed earlier today that affected those who used one, and only one, of the two search options. basically the key failed to get assigned to SEARCH. If you used none or both it worked as it should. |
| 05:13.19 | WisTilt2 | what rootfs and system.ext2 you running? |
| 05:13.49 | randomblame | the latest f22 rootfs over frx04 |
| 05:14.03 | WisTilt2 | F22: haven't hit those yet. i did notice one key that did nothing but was driving so didnt pursue it |
| 05:14.53 | F22 | let me know if you find anything. i've been fixing bugs as they get reported. |
| 05:14.57 | WisTilt2 | randomblame: can you pastebin your current dmesg, if your phone was rebooted within the last few hours? |
| 05:15.05 | WisTilt2 | F22: will do |
| 05:15.20 | randomblame | I just did - my last pastebin |
| 05:15.30 | randomblame | oh wait that still had autobl off |
| 05:16.03 | randomblame | hold on |
| 05:16.05 | WisTilt2 | yeah one with autobl on. actually just turn it on then paste dmesg and that will do |
| 05:16.09 | F22 | i'm loving my rootfs combined with busybox ash's command line editing, file completion and history. |
| 05:16.24 | randomblame | bah random reboot |
| 05:16.30 | WisTilt2 | randomblame: turn it on, sleep phone for a few seconds, wake then post |
| 05:16.40 | randomblame | k |
| 05:16.43 | WisTilt2 | so i can see the whole mddi sequence |
| 05:16.54 | F22 | makes using both the terminal emulator and adb much more fun. |
| 05:18.51 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: I know you're probably up to your eyeballs in logs right now, but I just rebooted and did happen upon system_server (I know, shocking). If you want the log i can grab it |
| 05:19.11 | F22 | funny thing is that most people with titanium backup probably already have busybox's ash, and just don't know it. |
| 05:19.18 | hyc | lol |
| 05:19.30 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, grab a dmesg and a logcat pls. |
| 05:19.51 | Pohket_ | Alright guys - I'm out for now -- see you all in the mornin' |
| 05:19.59 | arrrghhh | g'nite Pohket_ |
| 05:20.05 | WisTilt2 | nite Pohket, nice seeing you again! |
| 05:20.45 | WisTilt2 | ill email you a pic of that array sometime this week |
| 05:21.16 | F22 | g'nite Pohket_ |
| 05:21.17 | Pohket_ | No rush - Just sounds cool... |
| 05:21.36 | WisTilt2 | sunny here all week so i get a nice shot of it |
| 05:22.27 | arrrghhh | high was -2 today |
| 05:22.29 | arrrghhh | but it was SUNNY |
| 05:22.50 | WisTilt2 | yeah heard you guys got hammered with some damn cold air |
| 05:23.09 | arrrghhh | truck started at 24 in the garage, as i started driving it plumetted to -11 |
| 05:23.25 | arrrghhh | yea, pretty hardcore. they closed schools almost everywhere just cuz it was so incredibly cold. |
| 05:24.10 | randomblame | I've been seeing flying droids for like 10 minutes |
| 05:24.16 | arrrghhh | i was warm and toasty from the ride home, went to shovel some snow - 2 mins tops, and my hands went from really warm to literally could not feel/manipulate them. they said frost bite in less than 5 mins. wind chills were -35... |
| 05:24.38 | WisTilt2 | i was stationed up in Minot ND back in the 70's during a freak artic push and saw -60F, water throwned from our 3rd floor barracks window would turn into snow before it hit the parking lot. way too cold for humans! |
| 05:25.04 | arrrghhh | randomblame, another issue i haven't had in forever... |
| 05:25.19 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, lol i remember reading a book talking about how spit crackles before it hits the ground at that temp... f-that. |
| 05:25.44 | WisTilt2 | yeah and any exposed skin pretty freezes within a few seconds literally |
| 05:25.50 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 05:25.54 | randomblame | arrrghhh: my rhod is haunted |
| 05:26.05 | arrrghhh | we were 60 degrees on friday, no joke. |
| 05:26.33 | arrrghhh | randomblame, system_server does make boots take for-freaking-ever. |
| 05:27.05 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: did i miss your pastebin of this last dmesg after you rebooted and called your phone? |
| 05:27.06 | randomblame | well maybe the dmesg will be interesting at least |
| 05:27.19 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, perhaps... |
| 05:27.41 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/Dpzf3ucZ |
| 05:28.10 | WisTilt2 | mucho |
| 05:28.15 | arrrghhh | np |
| 05:29.02 | arrrghhh | randomblame, so just to be sure... if you go to settings, about phone it says 'FRX04' in the build number section all the way at the bottom? |
| 05:29.40 | randomblame | arrrghhh - yes |
| 05:29.48 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: that boot you didnt have the system server probl |
| 05:30.11 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, no, oddly enough. |
| 05:30.23 | WisTilt2 | my logs dont lie |
| 05:30.30 | arrrghhh | lol they do not sir. |
| 05:30.53 | randomblame | stupid thing won't sleep |
| 05:31.03 | randomblame | it's been orange for 5 minutes |
| 05:31.21 | WisTilt2 | now im seeing the outputs that weren't in your other log |
| 05:31.25 | arrrghhh | randomblame, gps? apps? |
| 05:31.38 | randomblame | gps off and apps shouldn't be running at all |
| 05:31.46 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i'm really not sure on that man... i swear i'm on your newest :P |
| 05:31.55 | arrrghhh | randomblame, shouldn't being the keyword here |
| 05:32.06 | randomblame | yeah it was sleeping an hour ago |
| 05:32.10 | arrrghhh | that's the _only_ reason my phone doesn't sleep. |
| 05:32.16 | arrrghhh | gps and apps goin rogue |
| 05:32.17 | WisTilt2 | yeah you were i see that, just doesnt make any sense that PM basically never ran any functions |
| 05:32.36 | arrrghhh | can't explain it either... other than the log is chopped |
| 05:32.41 | arrrghhh | it's a pretty big log tho... |
| 05:33.03 | rpierce99 | logcat: http://pastebin.com/mCBJpnTS dmesg: http://pastebin.com/PbJA7YM8 |
| 05:33.24 | WisTilt2 | yes but all the mddi's are there and there should be pm along with them during suspend |
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| 05:33.45 | rpierce99 | it's not a fresh boot because it soft-rebooted instead of shutting down |
| 05:34.54 | XirXes | just caught up on the logs. maybe the reason i have so few system server issues is cause i have a class 2 sd |
| 05:34.56 | WisTilt2 | guys, scratch this logcat file. need the file that contains the name system_server in its filename. dmesg is good. those 2 are basically what i need to see |
| 05:35.09 | arrrghhh | XirXes, perhaps. |
| 05:35.16 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, oic |
| 05:35.26 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, y'know what he's talking about? it's in dropbox. |
| 05:35.31 | randomblame | aha it was google maps running I killed it - odd because I haven't even used google maps once this install |
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| 05:35.40 | rpierce99 | yeah, i'm not sure if it's going to be populated though |
| 05:35.41 | arrrghhh | randomblame, haha ;) |
| 05:35.43 | randomblame | but tis asleep again |
| 05:36.01 | arrrghhh | randomblame, i tells ya. it's always one of those two things. the gps thing kills me too. |
| 05:36.13 | randomblame | google does evil |
| 05:36.27 | XirXes | my cards always worked fine. i've never had any file system curruption. and mine wasnt affected by the clocks like alot of peoples were |
| 05:36.55 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: what phone you have again? |
| 05:37.00 | randomblame | alright dmesg is here: http://pastebin.com/EjSrUzse |
| 05:37.09 | rpierce99 | rhod400 sprint |
| 05:37.12 | arrrghhh | XirXes, well i'm on a 'classless' 2gb card now. |
| 05:37.16 | arrrghhh | my 8gb is c4 tho. |
| 05:37.24 | XirXes | how fitting. |
| 05:37.30 | arrrghhh | lol, dick. |
| 05:37.33 | XirXes | lol |
| 05:38.22 | XirXes | mines a sandisk |
| 05:38.56 | XirXes | we still hunting system_server stuffs? |
| 05:39.15 | arrrghhh | still looking for a root cause |
| 05:39.34 | randomblame | the apps should be better managed - they should not run whenever they choose, especially not to the point where they prevent sleep |
| 05:40.12 | rpierce99 | I'm not sure how old it is but this is my last system_server_anr: http://pastebin.com/TmuLiUGT |
| 05:40.14 | XirXes | is it /data/system/dropbox? |
| 05:40.16 | hyc | randomblame: amen to that |
| 05:40.30 | arrrghhh | XirXes, yes |
| 05:40.40 | arrrghhh | i thought 2.2 was supposed to do that |
| 05:40.50 | arrrghhh | so much for that |
| 05:41.33 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: thats the exact right file to go along with dmesg, or kmsg. |
| 05:41.54 | rpierce99 | yeah I knew the file was correct, but i don't know how fresh it is |
| 05:42.01 | WisTilt2 | your phone isnt oc'd is it? |
| 05:42.16 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: yes mine is, wasn't a couple days ago |
| 05:42.50 | WisTilt2 | in this dump i mean. no biggy, just browsing. |
| 05:43.04 | rpierce99 | yes it should be |
| 05:44.08 | randomblame | haha I think I see the issue with my proximity sensor |
| 05:44.21 | rpierce99 | basing freshness of these logs off of the file timestamp seems to be a challenge because at the time they are written I'm not sure that the system clock is updated |
| 05:44.25 | randomblame | line 1269+ on that dmesg I just pasted |
| 05:44.35 | rpierce99 | prox throws a warning in every dmesg |
| 05:44.54 | randomblame | fooey |
| 05:45.04 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 05:47.01 | XirXes | http://pastebin.com/93U47Lvv here is the system_server_anr out of my dropbox from earlier today. same boot as the dmesg i posted earlier |
| 05:47.28 | XirXes | i also hove one from the 31st but i imagine it will be less usefull |
| 05:47.32 | WisTilt2 | randomblame : thats normal |
| 05:48.36 | WisTilt2 | it looks like you indeed have userland set to autobl enabled so dont see why it no workie |
| 05:49.05 | WisTilt2 | you did, however, get the system server prob |
| 05:49.25 | randomblame | oh I didn't see that |
| 05:50.06 | rpierce99 | you can't tell? |
| 05:50.18 | rpierce99 | i want to throw my phone up against a wall when I get it |
| 05:50.30 | randomblame | yeah it was a slow sombiatch |
| 05:50.53 | randomblame | but I'm used to it |
| 05:51.00 | arrrghhh | that's basically every system_server issue. |
| 05:51.11 | arrrghhh | i've had it choke the phone so bad it takes 10 minutes just to make a phone call |
| 05:51.22 | arrrghhh | painful doesn't begin to describe it. |
| 05:51.43 | rpierce99 | yeah getting to the phone to dial takes forever, makes me wish I had hard buttons to hold down for speed dial |
| 05:52.27 | XirXes | i definitly notice it. its REALLY irritating. and hard to fix without a sim |
| 05:52.40 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:53.03 | rpierce99 | haha I bet, what do you do just reboot over and over again until you get a clean boot? or kill system_server? |
| 05:53.04 | XirXes | tho when i fixed it earlier i turned off airplane mode and then turned it back on |
| 05:53.27 | XirXes | without a sim i usually just reboot |
| 05:54.28 | rpierce99 | can you make an android shortcut to a terminal command? |
| 05:55.07 | randomblame | like a linux batch file |
| 05:55.34 | rpierce99 | well i'm sure you could make a shell script, but can android shortcut to a shell script? |
| 05:55.40 | hyc | yes, use gscript |
| 05:56.06 | hyc | you might need AnyCut too, not sure |
| 05:56.11 | rpierce99 | so maybe a shortcut to kill system_server would be faster |
| 05:56.32 | hyc | hmmm. killing system_server restarts the entire android framework |
| 05:56.33 | arrrghhh | i don't think you can kill system_server |
| 05:56.36 | arrrghhh | doesn't that... yea |
| 05:56.42 | rpierce99 | oh, I tought that was listed as a solution |
| 05:56.44 | rpierce99 | n/m then |
| 05:56.46 | arrrghhh | it is |
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| 05:56.49 | XirXes | theres a button in dev tools for killing system server i thought |
| 05:56.53 | arrrghhh | but that's the consequence of the solution lol |
| 05:56.54 | arrrghhh | there is |
| 05:56.56 | hyc | just not a very good solution... |
| 05:57.06 | arrrghhh | crash system server i believe is the title |
| 05:57.23 | hyc | You can probably use AnyCut to create a shortcut to that, if you want it |
| 05:57.25 | arrrghhh | yea, under "Bad Behavior" lol |
| 05:57.26 | rpierce99 | yeah that button should be labeled better, like, oh i don't know, "reboot" |
| 05:57.40 | hyc | well it's not an actual reboot, the kernel keeps running. |
| 05:57.46 | hyc | most other system process keep running |
| 05:58.02 | hyc | if you have a hosed device/driver, it will still be hosed. |
| 05:58.17 | XirXes | lol i just tried it. reboot seems acurate enough |
| 05:58.36 | arrrghhh | yea just blows up userland basically lol |
| 05:58.38 | hyc | you'll just get treated to a replay of the bootAnimation |
| 05:58.51 | arrrghhh | stinebd dies a little inside everytime you do it |
| 05:58.51 | hyc | yeah, what arrrghhh said |
| 05:58.59 | hyc | lol |
| 06:00.06 | WisTilt2 | XirXes: since you have no sim you can just open the console and kill zygote i think, that should restart things and clear up system server similar to making a call does. worth a try but should work. |
| 06:00.40 | XirXes | ill try and get system server to act up and give it a shot |
| 06:00.52 | WisTilt2 | i think if you do that with a sim though you might loose the carrier registration until a full reboot |
| 06:01.11 | rpierce99 | killall zygote reboots |
| 06:01.15 | arrrghhh | alright guys. bedtime. |
| 06:01.35 | F22 | g'nite arrrghhh |
| 06:01.36 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, hopefully i get some good stats on batt drain tonight. |
| 06:01.40 | rpierce99 | nite arrrr |
| 06:01.46 | rpierce99 | your name takes too long to type |
| 06:01.49 | arrrghhh | last night wasn't so awesome.... lol. |
| 06:01.50 | WisTilt2 | hang on 1 arrrghhh... |
| 06:01.52 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, tab |
| 06:01.55 | WisTilt2 | quick question |
| 06:02.01 | arrrghhh | tabarrrruuuuu |
| 06:02.01 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: hahaha that's awesome! |
| 06:02.04 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's up |
| 06:02.51 | WisTilt2 | im going to make 1 more minor change for you to put up tomorrow. also what do you think if i change green to green blink in sleep so people will know if phone if fully locked up or not in sod mode? |
| 06:03.07 | WisTilt2 | blink will stop if fully locked up |
| 06:03.34 | XirXes | does anyone know how to pick a device when you have multiple connected to adb? |
| 06:04.11 | rpierce99 | adb devices to list |
| 06:04.12 | XirXes | make the blink long so its not the same as a winmo notification. |
| 06:04.19 | rpierce99 | adb -d <device> to use |
| 06:04.20 | rpierce99 | i think |
| 06:04.34 | XirXes | ill play with it |
| 06:04.37 | rpierce99 | no |
| 06:04.37 | F22 | sounds like a good idea to me WisTilt2. |
| 06:04.39 | rpierce99 | not -d |
| 06:05.03 | hyc | WisTilt2: good idea |
| 06:05.15 | XirXes | so like "adb 0000000000 shell"? |
| 06:05.48 | WisTilt2 | im going to add a trap for this system server condition that will basically restart things all over until i can find the root cause to fix permanently. i think i have enough log info to track it back now from the logs you all have sent. |
| 06:05.51 | rpierce99 | no that doesn't work |
| 06:06.01 | XirXes | damn |
| 06:06.32 | XirXes | sounds great WisTilt2 |
| 06:06.33 | WisTilt2 | that means it will take longer to boot up if condition exists but at least it will be automatic and less frustrating:) |
| 06:07.13 | rpierce99 | yeah if I knew it would fix itself if I just let it sit there that would be a great improvement |
| 06:07.13 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: ill email you when its up, might not be until the morning depending on how long it take me, im fading fast... |
| 06:07.28 | rpierce99 | having to find a contact to call and wait for the phone app and the dialer is painful |
| 06:07.57 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: just dial your vm:) |
| 06:08.01 | F22 | Xirxes: I think it's -s |
| 06:08.05 | rpierce99 | i actually dial my GV |
| 06:08.59 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, how did you fix it in that other test kernel you sent? |
| 06:09.26 | arrrghhh | forced it to reallocate memory? that seemed to work really well for me. i just wonder if restarting it is going to be a non-starter for cdma... |
| 06:09.33 | WisTilt2 | reallocated the failed buffer, but that didnt always work and caused other memory probs |
| 06:09.42 | arrrghhh | and it's taken me 15 minutes to dial vm sometimes lol |
| 06:09.47 | arrrghhh | orly |
| 06:09.50 | arrrghhh | damnit... |
| 06:10.28 | WisTilt2 | well this will do it automatically for a short term fix, just not really fixing the cause |
| 06:10.28 | F22 | WisTilt2: system_server will get restarted? as in the bad behavior solution, but applied at boot? |
| 06:10.30 | arrrghhh | yea we're heating up our bed now lol, about ready to hit it. |
| 06:10.55 | rpierce99 | don't need to know, arrrghhh |
| 06:11.02 | rpierce99 | lol |
| 06:11.02 | WisTilt2 | F22: not just system server, the whole system almost like a reboot |
| 06:11.05 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, understood. you do feel you have enough logs to get at the cause...? |
| 06:11.14 | XirXes | F22: that works, thanks |
| 06:11.15 | WisTilt2 | yes im good |
| 06:11.22 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, not like... well maybe... anyhoo. |
| 06:11.31 | XirXes | i have both devices plugged in alot |
| 06:11.40 | arrrghhh | awesome. |
| 06:11.47 | arrrghhh | i was getting lost in the sea of logs. |
| 06:11.54 | F22 | WisTilt2: how do you prevent it from coming up the next time with system_server issues? or will it keep restarting over and over until it hopefully works? |
| 06:11.58 | WisTilt2 | those pairs of logs have what i need to trace back |
| 06:12.01 | arrrghhh | i don't even think i got that many from forum users. just nagged people on here lol |
| 06:12.23 | arrrghhh | i would assume it will restart over and over lol |
| 06:12.27 | XirXes | i didnt feel nagged |
| 06:12.28 | rpierce99 | yes that works F22 |
| 06:12.28 | rpierce99 | adb -s 000000000000 shell |
| 06:12.31 | F22 | Xirxes: np |
| 06:12.32 | WisTilt2 | F22: keeps retrying until it doesnt occur |
| 06:12.49 | arrrghhh | that's what i'm worried about... non-starter for cdma. but i guess it doesn't always happen like you say. |
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| 06:12.51 | WisTilt2 | usually only should take 1 time, maybe 2 at times |
| 06:13.06 | arrrghhh | what happens if it crops up during ? |
| 06:13.25 | F22 | WisTilt2: I dunno. system_server seems to run in batches for me. when it's really bad it can persist across quite a few reboots. |
| 06:13.32 | WisTilt2 | i dont think ive ever seen it happen again once cleared. only the sod |
| 06:13.40 | XirXes | if there are letters int the device name its caps sensitive |
| 06:13.47 | rpierce99_ | WisTilt2: is rebooting in this way more reliable than a hard reboot of the phone, because I almost never get clean boots |
| 06:14.14 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea, i'm not sure if i have or not. doesn't seem like it, but i'm not positive either. ah well, shoot me an email when it's ready. |
| 06:14.23 | WisTilt2 | it wont be the same as a full boot |
| 06:14.48 | F22 | WisTilt2: yes, once it's cleared i haven't seen it come back either. but that isn't what i think your temporary fix is doing, or perhaps i'm misunderstanding you. |
| 06:15.05 | WisTilt2 | basically will restart all the transactions that failed in simple terms |
| 06:15.18 | WisTilt2 | instead of hanging in a loop |
| 06:15.26 | F22 | ahh. that makes sense. |
| 06:15.44 | rpierce99_ | WisTilt2: So system_server pops up before the lock screen is visible, will a user even see the workaround happening? |
| 06:15.50 | WisTilt2 | ive already got traps on all of them for logging so i know which ones to restart |
| 06:16.16 | WisTilt2 | wont see anything true, happens before bootani screen |
| 06:16.23 | arrrghhh | oh yea it kills the phone at boot animation |
| 06:16.54 | WisTilt2 | well, they start failing before ani screen i should say so we'll catch them early |
| 06:17.34 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 06:17.40 | arrrghhh | slaughter them before they get a chance to be |
| 06:17.45 | arrrghhh | i like it |
| 06:18.07 | F22 | so we're still in init.rc |
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| 06:18.35 | tripp00 | hello everyone |
| 06:18.40 | WisTilt2 | F22: once the failed transactions are up the fix is the same as what happens when a call is made |
| 06:19.45 | F22 | ok, sounds good to me. |
| 06:19.58 | rpierce99_ | is very excited |
| 06:20.27 | WisTilt2 | F22: its going to be caught in binder actually |
| 06:21.24 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: ill email you when its up. not going to be tonight, im hitting the sack shortly. |
| 06:21.46 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, np dude, i should be there myself haha |
| 06:22.22 | rpierce99_ | arrrghhh: better get going, your "maybe" is quickly slipping away |
| 06:22.24 | arrrghhh | hrm... this is odd. anyone have trouble with audio in phone calls still where you have to flip the speakerphone on/off to get it to work...? |
| 06:23.06 | rpierce99_ | i only use spkr on/off to turn spkr on and off |
| 06:23.10 | rpierce99_ | haha |
| 06:23.17 | arrrghhh | ditto |
| 06:23.17 | F22 | lol, i recall saying good night to arrrghhh like an hour ago. |
| 06:23.21 | arrrghhh | i thought that bug was squashed. |
| 06:23.26 | WisTilt2 | none here. i use incoming and outgoing a bunch. |
| 06:23.27 | arrrghhh | me too |
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| 06:23.52 | arrrghhh | weird... they have rhod300's with new crap. wth. |
| 06:24.24 | rpierce99_ | liars, they're running froyox and don't want to admit it :) |
| 06:24.32 | arrrghhh | going to settle that now... |
| 06:24.33 | F22 | lol |
| 06:24.42 | F22 | it's tiad's fault! |
| 06:24.45 | F22 | ;) |
| 06:25.54 | hyc | who they? |
| 06:25.55 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: get some battery info tonight if it doesnt do its pegged trick like last night. |
| 06:26.09 | arrrghhh | actually, one of them is running that stupid huawei ripoff... oy ve. |
| 06:26.22 | F22 | lol, see! i told you so! :P |
| 06:26.26 | tripp00 | hope to get some help,i was wondering why when i install android on my tilt 2 it boots up fine but i can't access my sd card from android |
| 06:26.26 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, let's hope it doesn't do that... i'll let you know by morning. |
| 06:26.26 | rpierce99_ | called it |
| 06:26.31 | arrrghhh | F22 called it for sure! |
| 06:26.57 | arrrghhh | tripp00, this isn't a support channel. join #xdandroid |
| 06:27.11 | tripp00 | thank you |
| 06:28.10 | XirXes | i thought it was funny that tiad joined this channel yesterday and tried to start talking and everyone ignored him |
| 06:28.43 | arrrghhh | he joined today too, didn't say anything. |
| 06:29.17 | XirXes | just showed up to lurk |
| 06:29.27 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 06:29.45 | arrrghhh | ah well. you're welcome F22, enjoy the tech support :P |
| 06:29.49 | WisTilt2 | what are you guys talking about, rhod300's with new crap? |
| 06:29.54 | arrrghhh | i just threw out random answers, it's fun doing that. |
| 06:29.55 | WisTilt2 | i missed something |
| 06:30.00 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea because tiad is introducing old bugs. |
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| 06:30.08 | arrrghhh | with his froyoX crap. |
| 06:30.21 | WisTilt2 | ah. no comment |
| 06:30.23 | arrrghhh | which is stolen from neopeek, which is ported from a huawei rom. |
| 06:30.27 | arrrghhh | basically. |
| 06:30.51 | WisTilt2 | sounds like microsoft all over in a different venue |
| 06:31.15 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:32.01 | WisTilt2 | ok im hitting the sack. catch ya'll tomorrow night. |
| 06:33.01 | arrrghhh | alright, i'm actually goin to bed now. |
| 06:33.05 | arrrghhh | cya guys |
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| 07:32.20 | MattOG | lmao |
| 07:32.21 | MattOG | should really be #htc-linux-chat .... what's up? |
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| 07:41.50 | MattOG | sd build? It lives in the root folder (usually called 'Android') |
| 07:42.37 | kkuy | it drops right in there? |
| 07:43.11 | MattOG | what build are you using? |
| 07:43.54 | kkuy | Android v2.2.1 Froyo: Reference |
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| 07:59.59 | MattOG | just searched project android site |
| 08:00.02 | MattOG | 5/10 GPS NOW WORKING! Update your rootfs for the new fix using the update tool, or download it and replace your old one HERE!! |
| 08:00.09 | MattOG | http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/rootfs-latest.zip |
| 08:02.11 | MattOG | You just stick it in the folder, and job done, the link is for an old rootfs... ignore it |
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| 12:12.42 | opterz | Cotulla |
| 12:12.47 | opterz | I have a question |
| 12:13.27 | opterz | Is mwang working on releasing some type of 2-in-1 ROM for Leo? |
| 12:13.59 | Cotulla | ask him wtf |
| 12:14.19 | opterz | Thought you'd be involved in it |
| 12:14.21 | opterz | Ok |
| 12:14.49 | Cotulla | I post my news in twitter ;) |
| 12:16.07 | opterz | but isnt that from jan 31? |
| 12:16.30 | opterz | You mean you will post soon? |
| 12:16.31 | Cotulla | yes, but nothing changes |
| 12:16.40 | opterz | Ah |
| 12:16.46 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 12:17.29 | fakker | Cotulla i have a question |
| 12:17.33 | fakker | what time does sunset today? |
| 12:17.34 | Cotulla | anyway it's not our way to give any kind of promises |
| 12:17.59 | opterz | Will MAGLDR be able to have both Android and WP7 partitions at the same time for NAND boot? |
| 12:18.38 | Cotulla | no? u know no actual space left on LEO512 |
| 12:18.51 | fakker | noobs |
| 12:19.02 | fakker | early tweets already answered |
| 12:19.03 | fakker | this question |
| 12:19.24 | opterz | On one CM6 build i use there is 352mb user available |
| 12:19.28 | Cotulla | heh devices had 128 rom not long time ago |
| 12:19.33 | Cotulla | now 512 isn't enough |
| 12:19.34 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:19.52 | opterz | wP7 takes more than 352mb? |
| 12:19.56 | fakker | opterz then put 2xCM6 |
| 12:19.57 | fakker | :D |
| 12:19.59 | fakker | lol |
| 12:20.16 | opterz | want both android and wp7 :( |
| 12:20.21 | opterz | nand. |
| 12:20.24 | DuperMan | cm12 |
| 12:20.26 | fakker | get a new phone then |
| 12:20.29 | opterz | Lol |
| 12:20.32 | Cotulla | u can run android from SD card |
| 12:20.52 | opterz | just asking if it will be possible |
| 12:21.09 | opterz | with 352mb reserved for wp7. |
| 12:21.30 | Cotulla | main thing - if it useful :) |
| 12:21.50 | Cotulla | btw |
| 12:22.03 | Cotulla | u won't able to use any data from wph in ad and etc |
| 12:22.25 | Cotulla | u will need photo each image two times with reboot |
| 12:22.26 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:22.33 | opterz | lol |
| 12:22.55 | opterz | partitions |
| 12:23.37 | opterz | sd android sucks. :( |
| 12:23.44 | Cotulla | ppl used it for months |
| 12:23.45 | opterz | Wake up delay is horrible |
| 12:23.46 | Cotulla | and was happy |
| 12:23.59 | opterz | now that im using nand android. |
| 12:24.07 | opterz | cant Go back to SD android. |
| 12:24.14 | Cotulla | heh |
| 12:24.18 | Cotulla | it's like weed |
| 12:24.19 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:24.27 | opterz | Yeah. :) |
| 12:24.30 | Cotulla | sounds so |
| 12:24.34 | Cotulla | at least |
| 12:24.46 | opterz | it is |
| 12:25.03 | Cotulla | maybe u should buy DHD & HD7 and use glue to connect them> |
| 12:25.09 | opterz | Lolll |
| 12:25.10 | Cotulla | ? |
| 12:25.16 | Cotulla | u though about such variant? |
| 12:25.33 | opterz | that will be 25mm thickness and 300g |
| 12:25.41 | Cotulla | ya |
| 12:25.44 | fakker | so |
| 12:25.46 | fakker | u got both |
| 12:25.47 | fakker | OS |
| 12:25.48 | opterz | Lulz |
| 12:26.28 | Cotulla | just rotate device |
| 12:26.28 | Cotulla | :P |
| 12:26.28 | opterz | Dual display goodness |
| 12:26.28 | Cotulla | oh ya |
| 12:26.28 | Cotulla | but u lost camera |
| 12:26.28 | Cotulla | hm |
| 12:26.28 | opterz | lollll |
| 12:26.28 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.35 | Cotulla | but we can make a book |
| 12:26.37 | Cotulla | from it |
| 12:26.40 | Cotulla | dual display book |
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| 12:26.47 | Cotulla | left - android and right - wp7 |
| 12:26.53 | Cotulla | bcz android must be at left definitely |
| 12:27.03 | MattOG | High quality front facing camera |
| 12:27.17 | Cotulla | and u can also make stereo movies |
| 12:27.23 | opterz | Both DHD and HD2/7 dont have front cams. :( |
| 12:27.25 | Cotulla | just copy video from both devices |
| 12:27.32 | Cotulla | and merge it |
| 12:27.35 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:27.48 | opterz | But.... too thick and heavy! |
| 12:27.53 | opterz | cant fint into pockets |
| 12:28.02 | Cotulla | u need lost something for progress. |
| 12:28.09 | MattOG | where's the :rolleyes: smiley when you need it |
| 12:29.12 | Cotulla | and Pro7 also have only 512 ROM |
| 12:29.14 | Cotulla | :'( |
| 12:29.26 | opterz | Why develop for Pro7? |
| 12:29.36 | Cotulla | I think it will be my next device\ |
| 12:29.38 | Cotulla | :P |
| 12:29.41 | opterz | Switch to Samsung. |
| 12:29.41 | opterz | lol |
| 12:29.49 | Cotulla | Samsung is complete shit |
| 12:29.54 | |Atom_wk| | qwerty cool |
| 12:29.57 | opterz | Whyyy |
| 12:30.07 | Cotulla | bad quality |
| 12:30.09 | Cotulla | of software |
| 12:30.14 | opterz | well |
| 12:30.15 | Cotulla | bad quality of device case |
| 12:30.18 | Cotulla | looks bad |
| 12:30.23 | opterz | you will develop it. so. |
| 12:30.31 | Cotulla | and I hate samsung |
| 12:30.40 | opterz | ha |
| 12:30.54 | Cotulla | looks like there inside phones fucks and got tons of new models |
| 12:31.00 | Cotulla | wtf look at this |
| 12:31.17 | Cotulla | and all looks very similar |
| 12:31.20 | |Atom_wk| | Religion does not allow him to :D |
| 12:31.27 | Cotulla | as well |
| 12:31.43 | Cotulla | my PC display also Samsung was broken once already |
| 12:31.48 | opterz | Galaxy s getting good praises.. |
| 12:31.56 | opterz | so nightmare of samsung eh |
| 12:31.59 | Cotulla | as well other samsung devices broken usually after 1 year usage |
| 12:32.14 | opterz | Then.... |
| 12:32.21 | Cotulla | there was problem with capacities in PC display.. after 1 year |
| 12:32.32 | opterz | what about LG optimus 2x? :o |
| 12:32.34 | Cotulla | I HAD PC DISPLAY FROM 1993 AND IT STILL WORKING |
| 12:32.39 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 12:32.40 | opterz | k |
| 12:32.41 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:32.45 | Cotulla | there only 800x600 |
| 12:32.47 | fakker | how old are you? |
| 12:32.48 | Cotulla | 14' |
| 12:32.53 | Cotulla | ofcourse few problems |
| 12:32.57 | Cotulla | but at least it show something |
| 12:32.59 | fakker | you are 14? |
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| 12:33.20 | Cotulla | not like this samsung shit which die after 1 year |
| 12:33.38 | Cotulla | fakker, ya I am 12 year old kid, playing lego now :D |
| 12:33.46 | crawling | tetris* |
| 12:34.00 | opterz | Pinball when? :o |
| 12:34.14 | Cotulla | arkanoid |
| 12:34.18 | opterz | oh |
| 12:34.18 | Cotulla | I stated it already |
| 12:34.20 | opterz | that whe? |
| 12:34.24 | opterz | oh |
| 12:34.30 | Cotulla | okay |
| 12:34.36 | Cotulla | I will wait dual core from htc |
| 12:34.38 | Cotulla | :P |
| 12:34.51 | opterz | Optimus 2x |
| 12:34.56 | opterz | is dual core from lg |
| 12:35.01 | opterz | quite nice |
| 12:35.02 | Cotulla | doubt nv did something good |
| 12:35.25 | Cotulla | there no keyboard |
| 12:35.36 | Cotulla | and android again |
| 12:35.59 | opterz | your future device must have keyboard? |
| 12:36.14 | Cotulla | I think yes |
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| 12:38.18 | opterz | i really hope Htc does something about screeb |
| 12:38.20 | opterz | Screeb |
| 12:38.27 | opterz | screen* |
| 12:38.53 | Cotulla | screen? |
| 12:38.53 | opterz | All their phones have bad sunlight legibility |
| 12:39.01 | opterz | Ye |
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| 12:39.32 | Cotulla | yeah, but me not aware like some ppl: "WoW super A M O L E D" |
| 12:39.50 | opterz | did you see it in person? |
| 12:39.57 | opterz | its actually quite wow |
| 12:39.58 | Cotulla | yes |
| 12:40.10 | Cotulla | but it not important for me. |
| 12:40.21 | Cotulla | ofcourse looks nice |
| 12:40.30 | Cotulla | but not main thing in device |
| 12:40.47 | opterz | your main thing is? |
| 12:41.03 | Cotulla | hm 960x540 still sucks to apples 960x640 |
| 12:41.15 | Cotulla | 100 pixelzz |
| 12:41.18 | Cotulla | :\( |
| 12:41.18 | opterz | Atrix? |
| 12:41.20 | Cotulla | :'( |
| 12:41.38 | Cotulla | it's next resolution... |
| 12:42.21 | Cotulla | I think new devices will use 960x540 more |
| 12:42.57 | Cotulla | heh framebuffer more than 1 mb |
| 12:43.15 | Cotulla | for 320x240 enough 153kb |
| 12:43.34 | opterz | atrix not really 960x540 cuz of pentile |
| 12:43.46 | opterz | its more of 640x360 in reality |
| 12:43.50 | Cotulla | ya |
| 12:44.25 | opterz | step backwards |
| 12:44.32 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.46 | Cotulla | but ask somebody with pentile display in the device |
| 12:44.59 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:45.30 | Cotulla | they will tell u that u noob and don't see this @$*@$^ colors. pentile doesn't matter. |
| 12:45.35 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:45.36 | opterz | something wrong at white and warm color is horribly visible on pentile |
| 12:45.53 | opterz | But blue and green is great |
| 12:46.02 | opterz | cant dicern pixels at all |
| 12:46.13 | Cotulla | hm |
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| 12:47.03 | opterz | Did u buy pro7 already? |
| 12:47.29 | Cotulla | no |
| 12:47.34 | opterz | ah |
| 12:47.39 | Cotulla | bad that there old cpu |
| 12:47.51 | Cotulla | I hoped they will install 7630 there |
| 12:47.53 | Cotulla | :( |
| 12:48.18 | opterz | 8250 is quite old now |
| 12:48.26 | Cotulla | but still great |
| 12:48.28 | opterz | yeah |
| 12:48.29 | Cotulla | it was revolution |
| 12:48.32 | Cotulla | anyway |
| 12:48.33 | opterz | very smooth |
| 12:48.41 | opterz | cant find flaw in it |
| 12:49.12 | opterz | hm |
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| 12:49.21 | opterz | I see pro7 has no huge fandom? |
| 12:49.35 | Cotulla | what is fandom? |
| 12:49.36 | Cotulla | :D |
| 12:49.41 | opterz | Like |
| 12:49.47 | opterz | not many ppl know about it |
| 12:49.51 | MattOG | It's what you create when you develop for a phone |
| 12:49.53 | Cotulla | maybe because it's new |
| 12:49.59 | Cotulla | ? |
| 12:50.02 | MattOG | lol, HD2 fandom = because of cotulla |
| 12:50.09 | opterz | it will not be a good seller me thinks |
| 12:50.12 | Cotulla | I think it in sell about fro week |
| 12:50.38 | opterz | No huge donations for pro7 there will be |
| 12:50.38 | Cotulla | yeah it's WP7 phone |
| 12:51.00 | Cotulla | I don't care about donations, mostly do stuffs for my own fan :P |
| 12:51.06 | opterz | haha |
| 12:51.16 | Cotulla | but donations allow to buy new equipment |
| 12:52.04 | opterz | whats your candidate other than pro7 now? |
| 12:52.22 | Cotulla | anyway I don't see any other good new phones for now |
| 12:52.37 | opterz | Galaxy ssss! ....lol |
| 12:52.43 | Cotulla | Galaxy old already |
| 12:52.54 | opterz | Good prices now |
| 12:53.06 | Cotulla | and it will be boring |
| 12:53.06 | Cotulla | I think |
| 12:53.35 | gauner1986 | Cotulla: do it like me |
| 12:53.37 | gauner1986 | and wait |
| 12:53.38 | Cotulla | I think I can move most current stuffs to Pro7 |
| 12:53.38 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 12:53.45 | Cotulla | like MAGLDR |
| 12:53.46 | opterz | Wave s8500 lol. you might not even know |
| 12:53.48 | Cotulla | Android... etc |
| 12:54.01 | gauner1986 | Cotulla: btw.. how is the hardware compared to hd2? |
| 12:54.04 | gauner1986 | of pro7 |
| 12:54.47 | Cotulla | almost same... that's bad |
| 12:54.52 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 12:54.55 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 12:55.00 | gauner1986 | so i'd not buy it |
| 12:55.04 | Cotulla | I hoped to have more 512 storage to fit more os/data inside |
| 12:55.09 | opterz | same rom ram cpu |
| 12:55.16 | Cotulla | and 1024 ram to fit roms to ram :D |
| 12:55.21 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 12:56.04 | opterz | does a |
| 12:56.09 | opterz | oh |
| 12:56.20 | Cotulla | but it have keyboard |
| 12:56.21 | opterz | atrix has 1gb ram and 16gb rom :D |
| 12:56.22 | Cotulla | and WP7 :P |
| 12:56.53 | opterz | dualcore |
| 12:57.15 | opterz | one cpu for android and other for wp7 multj |
| 12:57.36 | Cotulla | it's tegra |
| 12:57.36 | opterz | multitasking. truly goddd lol |
| 12:57.39 | Cotulla | there nothing known |
| 12:57.47 | Cotulla | all closed and fucked up |
| 12:57.49 | Cotulla | :P |
| 12:57.50 | opterz | hmm |
| 12:58.06 | Cotulla | I know NV attitude |
| 12:58.14 | Cotulla | so I prefer CPU from QCT |
| 12:58.55 | opterz | news says HTC Pyramid will have 1.2ghz dual core from qualcomm |
| 12:59.06 | Cotulla | ?????\ |
| 12:59.12 | Cotulla | where this news??? |
| 12:59.17 | opterz | Engadget |
| 13:00.05 | opterz | 8260 |
| 13:00.34 | opterz | http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/03/htc-pyramid-emerges-from-the-mists-of-speculation-with-a-1-2ghz/ |
| 13:00.52 | Cotulla | yeah...\ |
| 13:01.14 | opterz | mind set on this one for next? :D |
| 13:01.19 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 13:01.24 | opterz | lol |
| 13:01.25 | |Atom_wk| | CDMA |
| 13:01.29 | |Atom_wk| | not gsm |
| 13:01.39 | opterz | possibly gsm version too |
| 13:01.44 | Cotulla | but not sure when it will be released |
| 13:01.58 | Cotulla | I doubt soon |
| 13:03.18 | Cotulla | yeah sounds good |
| 13:03.36 | Cotulla | <3 MSM8660 |
| 13:04.01 | opterz | 8260? |
| 13:05.06 | opterz | oh i see |
| 13:05.11 | opterz | 8660 exists |
| 13:05.29 | fakker | when is your next phone due Cotulla? |
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| 13:05.40 | fakker | contract upgrade? or buy simfree/oem |
| 13:05.43 | Cotulla | but it's android |
| 13:05.54 | Curious_ | you fail at wp7 don't you |
| 13:06.14 | Curious_ | port wp7 to an android device |
| 13:06.16 | Curious_ | !!!! |
| 13:06.21 | Cotulla | I prefer with simlock :P it get extra levels! |
| 13:06.38 | fakker | more fun to hack? |
| 13:06.52 | Cotulla | yaya :D |
| 13:06.57 | fakker | btw, htcleo.noobhands is gone |
| 13:07.00 | fakker | noobhands.net expired |
| 13:07.02 | fakker | i dont renew |
| 13:07.05 | Curious_ | hehe |
| 13:07.08 | Curious_ | cuz you are fired? |
| 13:07.09 | Cotulla | lol\ |
| 13:07.13 | fakker | no |
| 13:07.16 | fakker | noobhands.com |
| 13:07.18 | fakker | is hosted on the company |
| 13:07.18 | fakker | lol |
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| 13:07.38 | Cotulla | lol |
| 13:07.45 | Cotulla | collapse on xda? |
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| 13:08.12 | Curious_ | i heard someone is porting space shuttle destroyer for hd2 |
| 13:08.20 | Curious_ | when is it gonna be releaes )^'+(&+('+( |
| 13:08.35 | Curious_ | xda fine |
| 13:08.44 | Curious_ | you got bad isp |
| 13:09.00 | Cotulla | in theory one cpu can run one os and other cpu - other |
| 13:09.13 | fakker | core |
| 13:09.18 | Curious_ | that theory suckz ballz |
| 13:09.25 | Curious_ | when it comes to reality |
| 13:09.33 | opterz | Why |
| 13:09.51 | Curious_ | build a base platform that can handle two cpu's with same I/O equipments |
| 13:09.54 | Cotulla | don't listen him, he is cockpoo, TMOC |
| 13:09.55 | Curious_ | with different OSes |
| 13:09.57 | Cotulla | :D |
| 13:10.02 | fakker | http://noobhands.com/droid/vega.png |
| 13:10.25 | Cotulla | fakkernoobhands.net expired |
| 13:10.26 | Cotulla | fakkeri dont renew |
| 13:10.30 | Cotulla | :P ? |
| 13:10.32 | fakker | .com |
| 13:10.33 | Curious_ | its com |
| 13:10.33 | fakker | ;] |
| 13:10.34 | Curious_ | noob |
| 13:10.38 | Curious_ | n00b |
| 13:10.44 | Cotulla | lol |
| 13:10.44 | fakker | noobcotulla.net |
| 13:10.46 | fakker | :D |
| 13:10.51 | Curious_ | cocktulla.com |
| 13:10.56 | fakker | cockpoo |
| 13:10.58 | Cotulla | not working |
| 13:11.06 | Curious_ | gonna register that domain |
| 13:11.11 | Cotulla | okay |
| 13:11.18 | fakker | i require reverse dns set |
| 13:11.22 | fakker | on ip address |
| 13:11.32 | fakker | then i will use bnc i guess |
| 13:12.07 | opterz | wp7 on SD will there be? |
| 13:12.13 | Curious_ | http://www.godaddy.com/domains/searchresults2.aspx?ci=16811 |
| 13:12.27 | Curious_ | opterz: he will port windows8 on sd |
| 13:12.35 | Curious_ | from x86 to arm |
| 13:12.38 | Curious_ | happy? |
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| 13:13.04 | Curious_ | domain is too expensicve |
| 13:13.13 | Curious_ | need tickets^_^ :D |
| 13:13.28 | Cotulla | hide in bunkers. trolls attack. |
| 13:13.45 | Curious_ | use my mortar |
| 13:14.06 | Cotulla | heh |
| 13:14.06 | Curious_ | blows up cotulla's bunkers |
| 13:14.11 | Cotulla | no |
| 13:14.14 | Cotulla | it's wrong |
| 13:14.18 | Cotulla | they are very strong |
| 13:14.28 | Curious_ | takes out his nuke |
| 13:14.33 | Curious_ | is it strong too? |
| 13:14.44 | Cotulla | teleports bunkers to moon |
| 13:14.47 | Curious_ | you gotta have at least 1m PB |
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| 13:15.06 | Cotulla | u fail. |
| 13:15.08 | Curious_ | prepares his ION CANNON |
| 13:15.48 | Cotulla | prepares his Psychic Destructor |
| 13:15.58 | Curious_ | sees some twillight fans unhappy after my attack on moon |
| 13:16.07 | fakker | lol |
| 13:16.24 | manusfreedom | eat universe in his black hole... all fail... |
| 13:16.27 | Cotulla | ...and move bunkers to past, when dinosaurs live |
| 13:16.27 | Curious_ | turns out to be YURI |
| 13:16.47 | Daevoq | O_o... |
| 13:16.54 | Curious_ | MIND CONTROL |
| 13:16.55 | Curious_ | owned |
| 13:17.00 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 13:17.08 | Cotulla | I control ur mind, Curious |
| 13:17.11 | Cotulla | :P |
| 13:17.13 | Curious_ | lololo |
| 13:17.15 | Curious_ | i make you say that |
| 13:17.22 | Curious_ | n00b |
| 13:17.55 | Cotulla | ur mind is clear for me |
| 13:19.01 | manusfreedom | too clear... empty? |
| 13:19.31 | Cotulla | never know that this mean... just Ctrl+C Ctrl+V it from some movie :D |
| 13:21.18 | Curious_ | told you |
| 13:21.25 | Curious_ | anyways |
| 13:21.35 | Cotulla | okay |
| 13:21.41 | Curious_ | what is to come up next for hd2 |
| 13:22.03 | Cotulla | "9. Psychic Destructor" in MAGLDR menu |
| 13:22.24 | Cotulla | ability to control mind of other ppl via Bluetooth |
| 13:22.41 | Curious_ | i need teleport option |
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| 13:22.59 | Curious_ | plz plz plz when is it gonna be released ? xD |
| 13:23.14 | Curious_ | gg |
| 13:23.18 | Curious_ | univ waits |
| 13:23.34 | Cotulla | heh he live |
| 13:23.53 | Cotulla | and dinosaurs wins! bunkers saved! |
| 13:28.42 | Daevoq | i need starcraft2 porting on hd2.. it's possible? |
| 13:29.28 | MattOG | No.... dinosaur time now, no space travel then |
| 13:29.44 | Daevoq | well well.. i'm waiting.. :D LOL |
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| 13:30.15 | MattOG | bout 200million years ok? |
| 13:30.38 | Daevoq | well well... maybe with next magldr features.. i can! |
| 13:30.42 | Daevoq | ahahah |
| 13:30.58 | MattOG | Just dawned on me that thats a really long bloody time..... |
| 13:31.17 | MattOG | I mean, i knew it was a long time, but damn, that's really long |
| 13:31.33 | Daevoq | LOL |
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| 14:04.40 | tgripp00 | im tring to get in #android\ |
| 14:05.06 | jonolo | tgripp00: /join #android |
| 14:05.13 | tgripp00 | last night someone posted the link in here and i was able to get in by clicking it,but i can't with the /join command |
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| 17:18.26 | Pohket | Alright - posted instructions on how to connect to WEP for those that care: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940126 |
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| 17:49.49 | NetRipper | man |
| 17:49.56 | NetRipper | did adb push |
| 17:50.00 | NetRipper | reboot device |
| 17:50.03 | NetRipper | sd card corrupt |
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| 19:07.48 | fakker | hmm |
| 19:11.11 | Curious_ | dreamchatting? |
| 19:13.03 | fakker | no, hmm to corrupt sd from a reboot |
| 19:13.13 | fakker | before you joined |
| 19:15.49 | Curious_ | oh, it must have known that i was coming |
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| 19:37.43 | NetRipper | fakker, yep.. even testdisk couldn't recover the partition.. just did an adb push to the root of the sd card.. disconnected usb cable, turned off device.. turned back on.. sd unreadable |
| 19:38.41 | Willd | NetRipper: what the? :o |
| 19:38.48 | fakker | NetRipper, shitty... my Desire done something similar before too :/ |
| 19:39.04 | fakker | lost my photos of random shit on there :( |
| 19:39.36 | Willd | The DHD did it to some with the latest OTA |
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| 19:45.13 | NetRipper | yea i wonder what caused it.. maybe it didn't flush before shutting down? |
| 19:45.29 | NetRipper | it could cause something like that |
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| 20:10.26 | NetRipper | lol photorec is recovering more pictures than i ever made on the device myself :P |
| 20:12.14 | Willd | Scary.. |
| 20:13.17 | NetRipper | temporary internet files |
| 20:13.19 | NetRipper | that explains |
| 20:14.07 | Samsunguy | NetRipper, make logs for htc-wp-chat :D |
| 20:14.43 | NetRipper | if the oper of that chan asks me, i will |
| 20:15.01 | Samsunguy | kay |
| 20:15.28 | NetRipper | some people dislike logs, so the @'s can decide |
| 20:15.46 | Samsunguy | alright |
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| 20:30.17 | willem | hello |
| 20:30.34 | willem | can anyone help me? |
| 20:33.03 | NetRipper | willem, just ask, if someone can help you he'll respond :) |
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| 20:57.55 | willem | hi |
| 20:58.07 | willem | can anyone help me in android? |
| 20:58.36 | rpierce99_ | ask your question, if someone can answer it, they will, if it belongs in another channel, they'll tell you |
| 20:59.05 | willem | so |
| 20:59.13 | willem | i saw a tutorial |
| 20:59.24 | willem | http://blog.sancho.hu/2010/03/android-egyszeruen-htc-touch-pro2-es.html |
| 20:59.26 | willem | this |
| 20:59.29 | willem | i am from hungary |
| 20:59.36 | willem | i install the cab |
| 20:59.38 | willem | and its ok |
| 21:00.06 | willem | (before it, i intsall froyo2.2 and its doesnt work) |
| 21:00.10 | willem | so |
| 21:00.14 | willem | i install 2.0.1 |
| 21:00.21 | willem | and its ok |
| 21:00.23 | willem | but when i |
| 21:00.34 | willem | go to setting when i |
| 21:00.43 | MN_ | willem go to #xdandroid |
| 21:00.59 | willem | what? |
| 21:01.01 | willem | pls help |
| 21:01.18 | willem | in devica family |
| 21:01.26 | rpierce99_ | #xdandroid is the support channel, the channel you are in is the dev channel |
| 21:01.31 | willem | i cant set touch diamond(i had ) |
| 21:01.50 | willem | okay |
| 21:01.56 | willem | how can i go there? |
| 21:02.00 | MN_ | willem your in the wrong channel |
| 21:02.08 | willem | ok |
| 21:02.10 | MN_ | press the channel name |
| 21:02.15 | willem | but how can i go there? |
| 21:02.31 | willem | how? |
| 21:02.39 | willem | #xdandroid |
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| 21:03.22 | MN_ | press it |
| 21:07.34 | Willd | Why can they get here through the web interface >_> |
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| 21:16.47 | visof | hello |
| 21:17.29 | visof | i have installed android 2.2.1 for htc diamond but there is no sound and it's slow somehow |
| 21:17.46 | visof | is there a way to speed it up and got the sound ? |
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| 21:19.17 | rpierce99_ | visof: ask your question in the support channel: #xdandroid |
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| 21:58.57 | gauner1986 | hey markinus |
| 21:59.24 | Markinus | hi |
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| 22:06.04 | emwe | Markinus: do you remember if there had to be some tweaks to get topaz data connection up and running on .27 apart from the structure size changes? |
| 22:06.59 | Markinus | hmm, wait, there was something. . . |
| 22:07.30 | emwe | i can't see something obvious in git logs |
| 22:07.43 | emwe | i got cellular and sms just fine on .35 but no data. |
| 22:08.14 | Markinus | did you change the smd channel? |
| 22:08.25 | emwe | from 1 to 7, yes. |
| 22:08.52 | emwe | i see pppd send and recv |
| 22:09.00 | emwe | but somehow the negotiation isn't working |
| 22:10.00 | emwe | i saw you disabled mutex locks on leo. but these aren't there anymore in .35 :) |
| 22:10.26 | Markinus | did you looked to the _smd_alloc_channel changes? |
| 22:10.57 | Markinus | emwe: in smd.c |
| 22:11.29 | emwe | i only changed the structure sizes for smem_find() to succeed |
| 22:11.34 | Markinus | I think the problem is somwhere in the smds . . |
| 22:11.36 | emwe | no _v1 and _v2 stuff |
| 22:11.50 | Markinus | yes |
| 22:11.55 | emwe | so non-amss6125 would be broken. |
| 22:12.03 | emwe | but multi-device compat isn't my goal right now ,) |
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| 22:13.53 | Markinus | check the stuff again, I think you overseen something there |
| 22:13.58 | emwe | probably. |
| 22:14.09 | emwe | thank you. |
| 22:22.04 | emwe | ok, one step further. ppp0 is up |
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| 22:41.58 | MassStash | hows panel workinin nand lately anyone? |
| 22:42.05 | MassStash | working in* |
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| 23:54.34 | hyc | hm, just got SoD but wasn't on latest test kernel |
