| 00:11.40 | rpierce99 | hey arrghhh, just got a SoD on the test kernel while sleeping (green), is "cat /proc/last_kmsg" the proper info to get after it reboots? |
| 00:12.15 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 00:12.17 | arrrghhh | if you use adb |
| 00:12.28 | arrrghhh | "adb shell cat /proc/last_kmsg > last_kmsg.txt" |
| 00:12.36 | arrrghhh | it'll dump that to your current directory on your pc. |
| 00:12.46 | rpierce99 | k booting into android now |
| 00:13.41 | arrrghhh | mine didn't look too useful, but WisTilt2 seems interested in them. they're really the only look into what's going on, since every other method of looking at what's going on doesn't work... |
| 00:14.08 | rpierce99 | best to do it even before fixing system_server i assume |
| 00:14.16 | Willd | Hmm |
| 00:14.30 | Willd | Is /proc/last_kmsg standard? |
| 00:14.54 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, shouldn't matter TBH |
| 00:15.01 | arrrghhh | Willd, not sure honestly. |
| 00:15.13 | rpierce99 | cat: can't open '/proc/last_kmsg': No such file or directory |
| 00:15.18 | arrrghhh | i found that nugget when testing viruscrazy's camera testing mess |
| 00:15.32 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, uhm... maybe there's a typo 1 sec. |
| 00:15.43 | Willd | arrrghhh: If you could find, say a patch to implement that, it would be rocking :) |
| 00:15.54 | arrrghhh | for what? |
| 00:16.02 | Willd | For last_kmsg |
| 00:16.11 | arrrghhh | i think it's already implemented |
| 00:16.20 | arrrghhh | i pulled it from that last test kernel |
| 00:16.23 | Willd | Whoms? |
| 00:16.34 | rpierce99 | i don't have anything similar to last_kmsg in proc |
| 00:16.37 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2's |
| 00:16.40 | Willd | Ah |
| 00:16.55 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, i swear i'm not crazy :P |
| 00:17.00 | Willd | arrrghhh: Does he have a repo? |
| 00:17.09 | arrrghhh | nope |
| 00:17.11 | arrrghhh | his code isn't public :P |
| 00:17.14 | Willd | >_< |
| 00:17.16 | arrrghhh | until it gets committed. |
| 00:17.21 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, uhm.. i was just able to do it. |
| 00:17.37 | rpierce99 | i believe you :) Is it possible that viruscrazy put it in his build and you pulled the file from when that build generated it instead of wistilt2s? |
| 00:17.46 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, not possible. |
| 00:17.55 | arrrghhh | unless... |
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| 00:18.06 | arrrghhh | it's in that libc.... crap. |
| 00:18.11 | arrrghhh | i didn't even think about that. |
| 00:18.37 | Willd | arrrghhh: If you could find the patch, or such for it, I would love you long time :p |
| 00:18.54 | arrrghhh | lol not necessary. |
| 00:18.55 | arrrghhh | i have a gf :P |
| 00:19.00 | Willd | Dang.. |
| 00:19.06 | arrrghhh | but that's my best guess, is the libc.so has it in thar. |
| 00:19.09 | rpierce99 | hell I have a wife but I could use someone to love me long time |
| 00:19.11 | Willd | What else can a man need.. :p |
| 00:19.30 | arrrghhh | cuz i do have that mounted, libc.so in /system/lib/... |
| 00:19.42 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:19.53 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, seems i skewed the test case. crap, sorry dude. |
| 00:20.04 | arrrghhh | i wonder if it causes overhead... |
| 00:20.14 | arrrghhh | otherwise we should probably try to get it in mainline. |
| 00:20.20 | arrrghhh | damn viruscrazy and all his madness. |
| 00:20.47 | rpierce99 | well i can't imagine writing to a file would be free :) |
| 00:21.04 | arrrghhh | well |
| 00:21.08 | arrrghhh | let me rephrase |
| 00:21.12 | arrrghhh | unbearable overhead :P |
| 00:21.41 | arrrghhh | because the benefits of debugging at this stage far outweigh the detriments |
| 00:22.05 | rpierce99 | <quote>But my angry birds!!!!!!111one</quote> |
| 00:22.05 | arrrghhh | maybe i should post that libc file in the test kernel thread and have peoples mount it. |
| 00:22.09 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:22.18 | arrrghhh | stabs rpierce99 in the face with an angry bird |
| 00:22.32 | rpierce99 | must be the yellow one |
| 00:22.38 | Willd | arrrghhh: kernel level bootup logging <3 |
| 00:22.53 | rpierce99 | are you sure it's in libc? |
| 00:23.05 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, no, that's my best guess as to why you wouldn't have it and i do. |
| 00:23.18 | arrrghhh | i also have the libcamera and liboemcamera bind mounted, but i can't imagine it's in thar. |
| 00:23.32 | rpierce99 | maybe I should test it before you tell a bunch of people to do it and it doesn't do anything :) |
| 00:23.51 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 00:23.56 | arrrghhh | oh fine. you're no fun :P |
| 00:23.58 | rpierce99 | is it just the libc from viruscrazy's test kernel |
| 00:23.59 | arrrghhh | no test like production! |
| 00:24.02 | rpierce99 | i still have it |
| 00:24.07 | rpierce99 | it's not mounted |
| 00:24.14 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, yes, that's what i'm assuming is giving me this amazing last_kmsg ability. |
| 00:24.31 | arrrghhh | if it's not... then i'm really not sure. i guess it could be one of the other cam libs, just seems doubtful. |
| 00:24.36 | arrrghhh | you're on frx04 right? |
| 00:24.40 | rpierce99 | any way to mount it live? |
| 00:24.41 | rpierce99 | yes |
| 00:24.41 | arrrghhh | newest rootfs |
| 00:24.45 | arrrghhh | sure |
| 00:24.50 | arrrghhh | just put the command in :P |
| 00:24.58 | arrrghhh | adb shell |
| 00:25.03 | rpierce99 | haha i figured the file would be in use or something |
| 00:25.12 | arrrghhh | mount --bind /path/to/file /system/lib/libc.so |
| 00:25.27 | arrrghhh | i think it'll work. no guarantees :P |
| 00:26.20 | rpierce99 | it didn't yell at me |
| 00:27.27 | arrrghhh | well see if you can pull it |
| 00:27.32 | arrrghhh | probably won't work till you reboot again |
| 00:27.37 | arrrghhh | unless it's that magical. |
| 00:28.20 | rpierce99 | proc has "kmsg" but not "last_kmsg" |
| 00:28.53 | arrrghhh | odd |
| 00:29.01 | rpierce99 | i'll restart |
| 00:29.10 | arrrghhh | i think /proc/kmsg is basically dmesg. |
| 00:29.17 | arrrghhh | i could be WAY wrong tho. |
| 00:29.26 | Willd | arrrghhh: It is |
| 00:29.30 | rpierce99 | it looks the same |
| 00:29.42 | arrrghhh | yea looking at it they are basically identical :P |
| 00:29.46 | arrrghhh | i love it when i assume correctly. |
| 00:30.14 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, adjust your froyo.user.conf so that file is always mounted at boot. |
| 00:30.19 | rpierce99 | yep |
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| 00:30.48 | rpierce99 | i'm also going to take out these unknown boot options while I'm in there |
| 00:30.54 | arrrghhh | i assumed that last_kmsg was part of the main kernels. didn't even occur to me that viruscrazy hacked that in thar. |
| 00:30.57 | arrrghhh | good idea. |
| 00:31.04 | arrrghhh | just don't take out the lcd.density :P |
| 00:31.34 | rpierce99 | now you've done it, you've made me wonder whether I'm supposed to or not |
| 00:31.55 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:32.40 | rpierce99 | i wish IRC had gtalk like "arrrghhh is typing....." |
| 00:34.25 | stickman89 | :D |
| 00:35.13 | Willd | arrrghhh: Wait, what phone are you working on? :p |
| 00:35.33 | stickman89 | arrrghhh I think somebody screwed the lib files in the latest rootfs for eclair |
| 00:35.35 | stickman89 | might be wrong |
| 00:35.50 | stickman89 | hold on I will tell you for sure in a mo |
| 00:36.20 | arrrghhh | eclair? |
| 00:36.22 | arrrghhh | do what? |
| 00:36.27 | stickman89 | lol |
| 00:36.28 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol that would be a mess. |
| 00:36.32 | arrrghhh | with all these people typing :P |
| 00:36.38 | stickman89 | baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 00:36.39 | stickman89 | hahshdhashd |
| 00:36.41 | stickman89 | :D |
| 00:38.56 | rpierce99 | seriously though, am I supposed to keep lcd.density? kmsg says it is unknown |
| 00:39.04 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 00:39.07 | arrrghhh | userland picks up the setting |
| 00:39.12 | rpierce99 | ok, thanks |
| 00:39.13 | arrrghhh | kernel ignores it. |
| 00:39.19 | arrrghhh | np |
| 00:39.57 | rpierce99 | those calib hex values can be removed too? I think I saw you post that earlier |
| 00:40.09 | arrrghhh | yes, they are deprecated. |
| 00:40.35 | arrrghhh | for whatever reason the kernel doesn't throw an error saying they're ignored... |
| 00:40.42 | arrrghhh | perhaps they're still processed, but superceded by tssc. |
| 00:42.01 | stickman89 | posting the latest rootfs with the old keymap over in our forum, latest xdandroid rootfs still has double power button and lost multitasking for blackstone. |
| 00:42.41 | arrrghhh | stickman89.... seriously? |
| 00:42.47 | arrrghhh | c'mon man, remap with spare parts. |
| 00:42.55 | stickman89 | ummm fail |
| 00:42.56 | stickman89 | lol |
| 00:42.57 | arrrghhh | 'double power button' i swears. |
| 00:43.11 | stickman89 | i know that arrrghhh |
| 00:43.11 | stickman89 | lol |
| 00:43.19 | stickman89 | you still lose multitasking button |
| 00:43.26 | arrrghhh | meh |
| 00:43.30 | stickman89 | so my updated rootfs fixes that |
| 00:43.36 | stickman89 | :) |
| 00:43.40 | arrrghhh | everyone is making an 'updated rootfs' LOL |
| 00:43.42 | arrrghhh | there's like 5 now. |
| 00:43.55 | arrrghhh | i never used that recent apps button. |
| 00:43.58 | stickman89 | only using old qwerty.kl |
| 00:44.00 | arrrghhh | i guess a lot of people do. |
| 00:44.06 | arrrghhh | meh |
| 00:44.09 | stickman89 | I will change it later specifically for us later anyway |
| 00:44.25 | arrrghhh | you're the only blackstone user |
| 00:44.28 | arrrghhh | so it doesn't matter :P |
| 00:44.38 | stickman89 | haha yeah cuz im on my own |
| 00:44.39 | stickman89 | lol |
| 00:44.49 | arrrghhh | shame camro bricked his crap. |
| 00:44.51 | stinebd | [19:43:40] <arrrghhh> everyone is making an 'updated rootfs' LOL <<< an illustration of the fact that there is no good solution |
| 00:45.03 | arrrghhh | stinebd, agreed. |
| 00:45.09 | arrrghhh | everyone wants something different |
| 00:45.31 | arrrghhh | f22's newest rootfs sounds promising |
| 00:45.35 | arrrghhh | while creating other issues, of course. |
| 00:46.50 | stickman89 | I will just maintain the blackstone keylayout and if people like it i guess I let you know and share my changes |
| 00:47.18 | arrrghhh | well we changed it to work more like winmo to help the noobs |
| 00:47.32 | arrrghhh | and it turned out pissing off all the 'legacy' users that were used to the button layout. meh. |
| 00:47.35 | stickman89 | hehe yeah or that will do it |
| 00:47.45 | rpierce99 | last_kmsg is populated now |
| 00:48.10 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, magic. i'm betting that's a system image change. |
| 00:48.15 | arrrghhh | stinebd, still there? |
| 00:48.23 | stinebd | arrrghhh: no |
| 00:48.26 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:48.47 | arrrghhh | there's a hack viruscrazy put into his test kernel, wondering how hard it would be to implement |
| 00:48.50 | arrrghhh | or the repercussions. |
| 00:49.07 | arrrghhh | he basically enabled us to see dmesg logs after reboots by hacking at libc.so |
| 00:49.18 | stinebd | uh |
| 00:49.22 | arrrghhh | i don't know what he changed exactly, but it works when we mount it. |
| 00:49.37 | Willd | arrrghhh: Sounds nasty :( |
| 00:49.38 | arrrghhh | sounds promising |
| 00:49.43 | arrrghhh | Willd, well yea. |
| 00:49.51 | arrrghhh | what isn't in this project? :P |
| 00:49.55 | Willd | :p |
| 00:50.00 | rpierce99 | it's not writing live, I can tell you that much, last thing in mine is Power down. |
| 00:50.25 | arrrghhh | yea, like i said i have no clue what he did to get it to work, but it works great |
| 00:50.30 | rpierce99 | since then I've booted, unlocked, made a call, etc |
| 00:50.33 | Willd | arrrghhh: I'm heading off to bed, if you manage to find anything fun, pm me a time :) |
| 00:50.35 | arrrghhh | and it *might* be the only chance we have at tracing this SoD issue. |
| 00:50.52 | Willd | Night \o |
| 00:51.00 | arrrghhh | Willd, sure thing. i probably won't find much, i never do. g'nite. |
| 00:51.16 | arrrghhh | just tries to point the right people in the semi-right direction. |
| 00:51.20 | arrrghhh | sometimes it works out well. |
| 00:51.32 | stinebd | wouldn't last_kmsg be a ramconsole thing? |
| 00:51.54 | arrrghhh | stinebd, no clue. all i know is it didn't work for rpierce99 until he bind mounted that libc.so file. |
| 00:52.14 | stinebd | yeah messing with bionic sounds real fun |
| 00:52.34 | rpierce99 | yeah, argh, why can't you be more like tiad8 and really contribute something, lol |
| 00:52.44 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 00:52.47 | arrrghhh | i am pretty worthless. |
| 00:53.11 | rpierce99 | preaching to the choir |
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| 00:53.16 | stickman89 | dont get me started on that guy |
| 00:53.20 | stickman89 | grrrrr |
| 00:53.20 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:53.32 | arrrghhh | he's actually saying that he's going to work with us |
| 00:53.34 | rpierce99 | what, he's going to fix system_server all by himself in a day |
| 00:53.37 | rpierce99 | :) |
| 00:53.40 | arrrghhh | then he posts more drivel about how it's working so much better. |
| 00:53.43 | arrrghhh | classic. |
| 00:53.49 | stickman89 | what and do what exactly? Post apk's to you lol |
| 00:53.58 | arrrghhh | good point. |
| 00:54.05 | arrrghhh | i keep thinking he's not worthless. |
| 00:54.08 | stickman89 | here install this one, oooh that looks like a good one. |
| 00:54.15 | arrrghhh | then stickman89 brings me back to reality. |
| 00:54.22 | stickman89 | SLAP |
| 00:54.23 | stickman89 | lol |
| 00:54.36 | rpierce99 | it really took a lot for me to give him credit for the APN fix, until it went back to not working again, I was almost a bit relieved |
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| 00:54.54 | stickman89 | really |
| 00:54.54 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:55.04 | stickman89 | was it the apn-conf.xml? |
| 00:55.16 | arrrghhh | tiad8 was convinced it was. |
| 00:55.22 | arrrghhh | note - someone else told him that.... |
| 00:55.25 | arrrghhh | ndno methinks. |
| 00:55.53 | rpierce99 | he said to manually configure your apn to fix system_server, and my lag was gone for 4 or 5 reboots, so I posted it worked, then retracted 10 minutes later after the next couple boots |
| 00:55.58 | stickman89 | yeh but it aint the xml in the system.img |
| 00:56.09 | stickman89 | wtf lol |
| 00:56.22 | stickman89 | he reckons that will fix the system_server |
| 00:56.24 | stickman89 | lol on him |
| 00:56.29 | stickman89 | @ him even |
| 00:56.29 | arrrghhh | i'm really sick of reading his posts too. ugh. |
| 00:56.35 | stickman89 | same |
| 00:56.41 | rpierce99 | have you read his threads today? |
| 00:56.44 | arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11037229&postcount=12119 |
| 00:56.45 | arrrghhh | drivel! |
| 00:56.47 | stickman89 | noticed how hardly anyone said anything after i posted |
| 00:56.52 | arrrghhh | i can ignore his threads. |
| 00:56.57 | rpierce99 | all of his followers are posting about how much trouble they are having |
| 00:56.58 | arrrghhh | i can't ignore him when he posts in the main threads! |
| 00:57.11 | stinebd | arrrghhh: i read something the other day about a possible missing command in the ril during registration |
| 00:57.16 | arrrghhh | well yea, he single-handedly took all the noobs. which, i'm almost thankful for. |
| 00:57.25 | arrrghhh | stinebd, OoO really? |
| 00:57.26 | arrrghhh | where? |
| 00:57.28 | stickman89 | lol and his claim to fix market search in klinux's sense build |
| 00:57.31 | arrrghhh | were you reading it. |
| 00:57.31 | stickman89 | that didnt happen |
| 00:57.31 | stinebd | arrrghhh: you |
| 00:57.43 | arrrghhh | stinebd, oh that's for cdma netloc. |
| 00:57.45 | stinebd | something like +BSsomething something |
| 00:57.48 | stinebd | oh |
| 00:57.49 | arrrghhh | +BSINFO yea |
| 00:57.52 | stinebd | lame |
| 00:57.55 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 00:57.55 | arrrghhh | dick |
| 00:58.03 | rpierce99 | not lame, do want |
| 00:58.07 | stickman89 | multi combo |
| 00:58.11 | stickman89 | multi convo |
| 00:58.11 | stickman89 | even |
| 00:58.21 | stinebd | if you get cdma netloc working, send me the patch |
| 00:58.26 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, i'm having wistilt2's radio guy look at it... hopefully something fruitful comes of it... |
| 00:58.27 | stinebd | i'll print it out and put it in my paper shredder |
| 00:58.31 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:58.39 | arrrghhh | good thing the patch wouldn't go to you... |
| 00:58.51 | stinebd | it'll have to eventually |
| 00:58.54 | arrrghhh | do you even have access to push commits to that tree? |
| 00:59.00 | rpierce99 | can we get him a username, so we can stop calling him wlstilt2s radio gauy |
| 00:59.03 | rpierce99 | guy even |
| 00:59.06 | stinebd | we're moving the repositories anyway |
| 00:59.12 | stinebd | didn't you see the mailing list post? OH WAIT |
| 00:59.26 | arrrghhh | stinebd, i'm on the xda-devs mailing list... |
| 00:59.31 | stinebd | oh |
| 00:59.33 | arrrghhh | snuck in there undetected. |
| 00:59.40 | stinebd | probably after that post then |
| 00:59.43 | stinebd | it's in the archives anyway |
| 00:59.47 | arrrghhh | yea, i read it :P |
| 01:00.19 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, i don't think the dude will come online... so no. he'll just remain an anonymous coding monkey that WisTilt2 employs. |
| 01:00.35 | stickman89 | ^^ |
| 01:00.41 | rpierce99 | doesn't mean we couldn't call him whatever we want |
| 01:00.49 | arrrghhh | besides, i don't think he's looking at our RIL for his benefit. he's doing it because WisTilt2 is paying him :P |
| 01:00.53 | arrrghhh | hrm. |
| 01:00.56 | arrrghhh | RIL monkey? |
| 01:00.57 | rpierce99 | even if its wt2srg |
| 01:01.32 | rpierce99 | we might want to stay away from derogatory names, just in case |
| 01:01.33 | arrrghhh | i like RIL_monkey. |
| 01:01.33 | arrrghhh | anyhoo |
| 01:01.35 | arrrghhh | time to go home in the mess. |
| 01:02.06 | arrrghhh | cya guys later |
| 01:06.27 | stickman89 | latest rootfs means no boot for eclair |
| 01:06.49 | stinebd | bootloop? |
| 01:07.01 | stickman89 | nope |
| 01:07.13 | stickman89 | its the binaries |
| 01:07.28 | stinebd | huh? |
| 01:07.43 | stickman89 | hold on... |
| 01:08.04 | stinebd | eclair is pretty old you know |
| 01:08.25 | stickman89 | yeah true but its certainly smoother then froyo imho |
| 01:09.02 | stickman89 | untracted pid loop |
| 01:09.26 | stinebd | needs init changes as seen in init.froyo.rc |
| 01:09.37 | stickman89 | bibaries aren't initialising properly |
| 01:09.41 | stickman89 | binaries |
| 01:09.46 | stickman89 | ffs damn keyboard |
| 01:09.51 | stickman89 | kk will check it |
| 01:11.58 | stickman89 | stinebd: The bug where one has to toggle loudspeaker in order for mic and speaker to init properly, is that thought to be fixed? |
| 01:12.08 | stinebd | hell if i know |
| 01:12.14 | stickman89 | because It's happening alot for me |
| 01:12.18 | stickman89 | kk |
| 01:12.30 | stinebd | i'd tell you if i had the hardware |
| 01:13.05 | stickman89 | kinda regretting buying this heap of shit lol, development is dead |
| 01:14.09 | stickman89 | no life at all in our forums, just the odd noobs every so often. |
| 01:15.42 | fakker | cotulla tweets |
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| 03:54.09 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, how goes it |
| 03:54.42 | arrrghhh | had another SoD. LED was green, never went orange... device was hot too. gonna grab that last_kmsg... hopefully it helps. |
| 03:55.51 | WisTilt2 | yo. if you can get kmsg that might help yes. |
| 03:56.12 | arrrghhh | i found out the only reason i can pull those is viruscrazy's libc.so... |
| 03:56.24 | WisTilt2 | btw, np on the emails you're sending me, nice to know the input. |
| 03:56.51 | arrrghhh | cool. i just don't want you to feel like i'm harassing you :P |
| 03:57.34 | WisTilt2 | you're not. i really dont read the forums so have no idea results from the tests. |
| 03:57.53 | arrrghhh | good, i'll keep passing along the info :D |
| 03:58.06 | arrrghhh | hrm. gedit doesn't seem to like the character encoding... odd. |
| 04:00.12 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/PnGBByQd |
| 04:00.22 | arrrghhh | i see a weird loop at the end... |
| 04:00.27 | arrrghhh | but i'm not really sure what i'm looking for :P |
| 04:01.45 | WisTilt2 | so looks like you were up almost 8hrs before sod? |
| 04:03.16 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 04:03.24 | arrrghhh | i was using usb tethering during the day |
| 04:03.56 | arrrghhh | and i sent a txt message when before i left the office, and the phone was in sleep... then i checked it in my pocket probably 2hrs later, it was hot - still green LED tho... |
| 04:04.05 | arrrghhh | this was down hard, no kbd backlight, nothing. |
| 04:04.34 | arrrghhh | i guess i should show people how to get that last_kmsg... if you think it'll help track down SoD... |
| 04:05.52 | arrrghhh | when before... i should read before i hit enter lol |
| 04:06.59 | WisTilt2 | audio was triggered followed by sleep 27 seconds later then several loops in and out of sleep for another 12 seconds then lockup, weird |
| 04:07.36 | WisTilt2 | locked up during console suspend and stopped logging |
| 04:08.23 | WisTilt2 | actually it looks like it locked up as it was shutting down the SD card |
| 04:10.08 | WisTilt2 | locked is happening within pm |
| 04:10.50 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 04:10.54 | WisTilt2 | at least thats a place to start setting some logging so we can see which part of pm it is happening in |
| 04:13.13 | WisTilt2 | ill add outputs in all the functions and we can run that kernel for a day or so until it happens again, then check kmsg for more info |
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| 04:14.53 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 04:15.05 | arrrghhh | i think i'll throw that last_kmsg stuff in the testing thread too |
| 04:15.13 | arrrghhh | just so we can get more logs of SoD's... |
| 04:15.13 | F22 | i actually had an sod earlier today while my panel was awake earlier today. it hung while in the terminal emulator. unfortunately i was nowhere near a computer. that was before i updated to your latest wistilt2 from 1253. |
| 04:16.09 | arrrghhh | i guess i really shouldn't until i get viruscrazy's permission... i don't think he'll mind. i'll definitely give him credit, and shoot him a PM letting him know i'm doing it :P |
| 04:17.01 | F22 | what do you need viruscrazy's permission for arrrghhh? |
| 04:17.10 | arrrghhh | F22, he's got this magic libc.so file |
| 04:17.23 | arrrghhh | that allows us to pull dmesg after rebooting to winmo and back to 'droid. |
| 04:18.06 | arrrghhh | stine didn't really seem keen on integrating it, and i can't really blame him. |
| 04:18.14 | arrrghhh | it'd just help immensely for debugging this crap. |
| 04:18.57 | F22 | the libc.so is somehow writing out the dmesg? :P |
| 04:19.00 | WisTilt2 | F22: has sod always been a problem since way back? |
| 04:19.12 | F22 | can't you just pull it from the dropbox folder? |
| 04:20.23 | arrrghhh | F22, lol |
| 04:20.39 | arrrghhh | SoD has been a problem for a while. AFAIK since day 1... |
| 04:20.53 | arrrghhh | or day 47, whenever it was really booting and available :P |
| 04:20.58 | F22 | WisTilt2: I think we've always had sod's of one sort or another. it's just a question of whether they were frequent enough to annoy a dev into making them a priority. |
| 04:21.17 | arrrghhh | yea there's always been bigger fish to fry. |
| 04:21.26 | arrrghhh | we're getting down to the nitty-gritty now... code cleanup. |
| 04:22.36 | WisTilt2 | give me 30mins or so and ill put up another kernel with some verbose output in pm |
| 04:23.47 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 04:24.14 | arrrghhh | i'll run it tomorrow and pull another last_kmsg (assuming I get another SoD... they just seem like a matter of time usually). |
| 04:27.07 | F22 | Arrrghhh, did you ever get a chance to try out my latest rootfs? |
| 04:27.22 | arrrghhh | ... |
| 04:27.25 | arrrghhh | no |
| 04:27.29 | F22 | i'm curious to see if you end up experiencing the same issue that 500 user did. |
| 04:27.36 | arrrghhh | i'll do it now. |
| 04:27.54 | arrrghhh | i was thinking about it on and off today, and kept getting distracted by other things. |
| 04:31.49 | NeoMatrixJR | Now we just need Viruscrazy's stuff and WisTilt2's stuff so we can have camera + battery! then BT and that's about it! (well, and 3.5 jack for CDMA users) |
| 04:31.59 | arrrghhh | you forget the endless list of bugs |
| 04:32.01 | arrrghhh | and button lights |
| 04:32.03 | NeoMatrixJR | that would be cool if we could get 3.5mm jack. I could get a square |
| 04:32.05 | arrrghhh | and i could go on, but i won't. |
| 04:32.19 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2's got code for button lights. Just isn't quite there. |
| 04:32.26 | NeoMatrixJR | and yeah. system_server issue |
| 04:32.44 | arrrghhh | yea, he seems to think that it's going to be a biatch to get the other devices workin on those button lights... we'll see. |
| 04:32.50 | NeoMatrixJR | and actual CDMA recognition. My logcat actually said "not a cdma phone" |
| 04:33.01 | F22 | lol |
| 04:33.08 | F22 | the nerve... :P |
| 04:33.20 | arrrghhh | yea, i was noticing in my logs a lot of commands being forced onto my cdma phone that aren't compatible lol |
| 04:33.32 | NeoMatrixJR | I was testing button lights with him for a while. Seems my RHOD400 was different and a pain... maybe 500 too. |
| 04:33.45 | arrrghhh | yup |
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| 04:36.00 | arrrghhh | haha, HD2 has everything workin so finally the Rhodium folk have taken back over this room :P |
| 04:36.16 | randomblame | lol |
| 04:36.39 | randomblame | that must be depressing - having a complete port |
| 04:36.47 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:36.49 | randomblame | nothing to hope for or work on |
| 04:37.11 | arrrghhh | eh i guess in a sense the development is exciting. |
| 04:37.24 | randomblame | yeah it is |
| 04:37.29 | arrrghhh | but i'm more excited to just get rid of winmo. holy good god, please rid this phone of winmo. |
| 04:37.54 | randomblame | now a bunch of hd2's are gonna show up on ebay as people buy new devices to develop |
| 04:38.03 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:38.14 | arrrghhh | i keep thinkin about buying one and using it like JesusFreak does. |
| 04:38.20 | arrrghhh | basically like an iPod touch, on crack. |
| 04:38.29 | randomblame | lol simless? |
| 04:38.31 | arrrghhh | probably cheaper too lol |
| 04:38.35 | arrrghhh | simless, serviceless. |
| 04:38.43 | randomblame | yeah I'm tablet shopping |
| 04:38.55 | randomblame | I'm thinking about those 100 dollar chineese epads |
| 04:38.58 | randomblame | lol |
| 04:39.11 | randomblame | my rhod is giving me carpal tunnel |
| 04:39.13 | arrrghhh | bah |
| 04:39.16 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:39.20 | arrrghhh | F22, space works fine. |
| 04:39.56 | F22 | how about call, menu & back? |
| 04:40.14 | arrrghhh | call goes to call |
| 04:40.17 | arrrghhh | menu opens the menu |
| 04:40.19 | arrrghhh | and back goes back... |
| 04:40.21 | arrrghhh | seems good! |
| 04:40.30 | randomblame | get that new rootfs figured out |
| 04:40.34 | F22 | symbol key work? |
| 04:40.52 | arrrghhh | i did try some of the shortcuts |
| 04:40.55 | arrrghhh | didn't try symbol |
| 04:41.03 | F22 | shortcuts work fine? |
| 04:41.07 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 04:41.11 | F22 | cool |
| 04:41.18 | arrrghhh | woah |
| 04:41.21 | arrrghhh | symbol pop-up |
| 04:41.22 | arrrghhh | slick :P |
| 04:41.26 | F22 | yup :d |
| 04:41.51 | F22 | ctrl should work too if you go into terminal emulator or connectbot. |
| 04:41.59 | arrrghhh | well... RHOD400 has not ctrl :( |
| 04:42.07 | F22 | er...sms |
| 04:42.12 | arrrghhh | i would be excited about that, if i had one |
| 04:42.15 | arrrghhh | oh you mapped it to that? |
| 04:42.16 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:42.21 | F22 | on the 400, yes. |
| 04:42.25 | arrrghhh | i do remember reading something like that in the thread. |
| 04:42.47 | arrrghhh | you know more about all these devices then you ever wanted to know :P |
| 04:42.56 | F22 | lol, yup |
| 04:42.59 | arrrghhh | sms+c is like ctrl+c |
| 04:43.00 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 04:43.06 | F22 | yup |
| 04:44.36 | F22 | those are the major additions, you can find the complete listing in the spreadsheet i linked to that first post. |
| 04:44.48 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 04:46.00 | F22 | btw, out of curiosity, how many symbols are you getting in the symbol list? the original 12? or my expanded list of 18? |
| 04:46.17 | arrrghhh | rhod100_it doesn't have a question mark? |
| 04:46.24 | arrrghhh | i think i remember reading that too, LOL |
| 04:46.24 | F22 | nope. |
| 04:46.32 | F22 | had to add it. |
| 04:46.39 | arrrghhh | i was just trying that list of symbols, hold on. |
| 04:47.41 | arrrghhh | cent isn't working |
| 04:47.44 | arrrghhh | shift+4 |
| 04:48.00 | arrrghhh | oh wait |
| 04:48.07 | arrrghhh | i should do this not in the terminal emulator lol |
| 04:48.25 | F22 | ? |
| 04:48.36 | arrrghhh | it's workin |
| 04:48.41 | arrrghhh | just didn't work in terminal emulator |
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| 04:48.51 | arrrghhh | yea every single button worked. |
| 04:49.04 | F22 | cool |
| 04:49.24 | arrrghhh | omg tab |
| 04:49.25 | arrrghhh | no way |
| 04:49.27 | arrrghhh | TAB |
| 04:49.28 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 04:49.33 | F22 | lol, yup |
| 04:49.38 | arrrghhh | this is nice. |
| 04:49.41 | arrrghhh | sooooo commit? :P |
| 04:49.47 | arrrghhh | how long have i been giving you crap about that lol |
| 04:50.07 | F22 | lol |
| 04:53.23 | randomblame | sheesh it's been like 8 days since there's been a commit |
| 04:54.47 | arrrghhh | GIT's been active |
| 04:54.50 | arrrghhh | just no new kernels |
| 04:55.22 | F22 | ok, so it's good on the 210 and 400, i have a single complaint about the 500 which may or may not be user error, and nothing really on the others. as soon as i know it works on all 10 models i'll send stine some patches. |
| 04:55.23 | arrrghhh | last commit was Jan 28 :P |
| 04:55.38 | arrrghhh | F22, ok so sometime next year? |
| 04:55.43 | F22 | lol |
| 04:56.05 | randomblame | that was in the gingerbread branch tho |
| 04:56.11 | F22 | hopefully sooner than that. i'm not going to hold it up forever just because we can't find a french volunteer or whatever to test. |
| 04:56.21 | arrrghhh | randomblame, uh... what? |
| 04:56.33 | arrrghhh | kernels have nothing to do with gingerbread, froyo, or even bacon. |
| 04:56.39 | randomblame | I was talking about rootfs |
| 04:56.41 | arrrghhh | i want Android Bacon. |
| 04:56.45 | arrrghhh | oh... sorry. |
| 04:56.49 | randomblame | and android bacon sounds good |
| 04:56.52 | arrrghhh | i was talkin 'bout the kernel. |
| 04:56.55 | F22 | kernel is even longer, jan 13th. :P |
| 04:56.59 | randomblame | but the jan 28 commit was for 2.6.35 anyhow |
| 04:57.05 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 04:57.05 | randomblame | so naaaa |
| 04:57.15 | arrrghhh | looks like all sorts of 35 madness |
| 04:57.20 | randomblame | yeah it's exciting |
| 04:57.25 | arrrghhh | 27's gettin left behind. |
| 04:57.40 | randomblame | I'll have to push my incite code to .35 after it gets sorted out a bit more |
| 04:58.06 | randomblame | poor poor incite |
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| 05:03.50 | arrrghhh | F22, damnit, now i'm going to have to carry this keymap around with me :P |
| 05:04.05 | arrrghhh | goes to get his dremel to scratch the new keymap into his keyboard... |
| 05:04.14 | F22 | lol, glad you find it so useful. |
| 05:04.24 | F22 | that's what the spreadsheet is for. |
| 05:04.39 | arrrghhh | spreadsheet won't fit over my phone's kbd. |
| 05:04.56 | F22 | ah, lol |
| 05:05.02 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 05:05.10 | arrrghhh | this is awesome tho. |
| 05:05.15 | F22 | i've been playing with them so long i have most of them memorized. |
| 05:05.20 | arrrghhh | if only i had all the other RHOD's to confirm... bah. |
| 05:05.24 | arrrghhh | hahahaha i bet. |
| 05:07.09 | F22 | and to think this all started because I was annoyed the 210 didn't have a ">"... |
| 05:07.21 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 05:07.26 | arrrghhh | i was annoyed by that too |
| 05:07.28 | arrrghhh | then i found adb |
| 05:07.29 | arrrghhh | :P |
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| 05:08.37 | F22 | yes, i can't imagine living without adb these days. it's hard for me to imagine what rhod dev history was like before adb... :P |
| 05:09.56 | F22 | back in the days before usb was working.. |
| 05:10.32 | arrrghhh | for a while there you could boot with activesync enabled |
| 05:12.08 | arrrghhh | but yea. i couldn't imagine starting where dzo started. |
| 05:12.12 | arrrghhh | at square one basically lol |
| 05:15.00 | F22 | yes, i remember working with activesync. not fun...very flaky on linux. the only time it was probably easier to work from a windows box. |
| 05:16.23 | WisTilt2 | PM needs some serious work. Now I see why there are suspends/resumes several times before it finally sleeps. |
| 05:17.02 | randomblame | honeycomb preview is running slow on my i7 - how is it running at all on nook color |
| 05:17.02 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, ;) |
| 05:17.25 | arrrghhh | randomblame, it's just a theme |
| 05:17.37 | randomblame | eeewww |
| 05:18.12 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 05:19.25 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i'm sure there's a lot of code you need to take a second look at... |
| 05:22.02 | WisTilt2 | need to verify this again in the logic but i think there is a variable set to 16bit but during one scenario in power collapse the value can be far larger value than 16bits. |
| 05:23.11 | arrrghhh | overflowing it eh? |
| 05:24.24 | WisTilt2 | let me finish these log outputs and build it for testing. ill go through the code afterwards, definitely can cause unpredictable problems with values not being what is expected, like sod maybe?? |
| 05:24.35 | WisTilt2 | probably a kernel panic that we dont see |
| 05:25.02 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 05:25.11 | WisTilt2 | ive seen kernel division by zero in dmesg a few times, which should not happen |
| 05:25.12 | arrrghhh | i don't know how much of the dmesg is being correctly dumped... |
| 05:25.17 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:25.22 | arrrghhh | divide by 0... cause a black hole... |
| 05:28.16 | randomblame | ha |
| 05:28.47 | randomblame | the cosmic solution to the paradox problem - push the reset button |
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| 05:40.43 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: can you test this image real quick and make sure it boots on your phone? image only |
| 05:40.48 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 05:42.41 | WisTilt2 | and look at dmesg and grep for "PM: msm_sleep", hopefully you see a few. |
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| 05:45.11 | arrrghhh | alright booting now. |
| 05:47.22 | arrrghhh | bootanimation is choppy, imma need you to fix that WisTilt2 :P |
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| 05:48.10 | WisTilt2 | thats system server doing its thing probably |
| 05:48.18 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 05:48.30 | arrrghhh | slaughtering my hopes and dreams? |
| 05:48.34 | F22 | wasn't choppy for me. |
| 05:48.58 | arrrghhh | ah you booting it too? |
| 05:49.03 | F22 | yup |
| 05:49.09 | arrrghhh | looks like 210 & 400 boot then :P |
| 05:49.11 | WisTilt2 | when i have the system server prob my boot ani droids pause and jump bad |
| 05:49.37 | arrrghhh | this sys_server issue is worse than normal.... damn. |
| 05:50.02 | arrrghhh | slowly comin back now. |
| 05:50.08 | arrrghhh | i should try hard coding that apn info |
| 05:50.15 | F22 | i got some widget time-outs, but i've been getting lots of those recently. it's nothing new with this kernel. |
| 05:50.16 | arrrghhh | it seemed to alleviate the issue, but didn't make it go away. |
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| 05:50.34 | WisTilt2 | if both your phones boot ok, check dmsg for those outputs then ill finalize this kernel for testing and rebuild modules. |
| 05:50.37 | F22 | once i hit force close, they all come up fine anyway. |
| 05:50.42 | F22 | will do |
| 05:50.50 | WisTilt2 | what apn info? |
| 05:51.10 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, the apn info for mms and data |
| 05:51.37 | WisTilt2 | you have to hard code it? |
| 05:51.47 | arrrghhh | seems to help |
| 05:51.50 | arrrghhh | doesn't make it go away |
| 05:51.58 | F22 | oh, that's unusual. i had to press the power button three times for it to wake up. |
| 05:52.35 | WisTilt2 | btw, this kernel if you sleep, panel will come back much darker until it sees light. i need to set that back to normal, changed the light sensor reference voltage and forgot to change it back. |
| 05:53.28 | arrrghhh | i'm guessing i need to go thru a few wake/sleep cycles to see those PM messages/ |
| 05:54.06 | WisTilt2 | only 1 should do |
| 05:54.10 | arrrghhh | k |
| 05:54.14 | arrrghhh | haven't let it sleep yet :P |
| 05:54.37 | arrrghhh | i hate these boots where it takes 30s to get the phone to sleep. |
| 05:54.40 | WisTilt2 | should see msm_wait and for sure the collapse mode it went into |
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| 05:54.58 | WisTilt2 | yeah dont know why that happens at times yet. |
| 05:55.26 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 05:55.37 | arrrghhh | PM: msm_sleep POWER_COLLAPSE |
| 05:55.46 | arrrghhh | msm_pm_wait_state |
| 05:55.51 | arrrghhh | msm_sleep collapse state:1 |
| 05:55.55 | arrrghhh | etc |
| 05:56.04 | arrrghhh | all those lines start with PM: |
| 05:56.38 | arrrghhh | i'd say fix that bl issue from the lock screen, whip up a module pack and i'll post it tomorrow with information for people to grab that last_kmsg log. |
| 05:56.46 | F22 | [ 465.274749] PM: Syncing filesystems ... done. |
| 05:56.47 | F22 | [ 465.278717] PM: Preparing system for mem sleep |
| 05:56.47 | F22 | [ 465.738098] PM: Entering mem sleep |
| 05:56.47 | F22 | [ 465.745056] PM: msm_sleep POWER_COLLAPSE |
| 05:56.47 | F22 | [ 465.745056] PM: msm_pm_wait_state |
| 05:56.47 | F22 | [ 465.745056] PM: msm_sleep collapsed state:1 |
| 05:56.47 | F22 | [ 465.745056] PM: msm_pm_wait_state |
| 05:56.48 | F22 | [ 465.818542] PM: Finishing wakeup. |
| 05:57.30 | randomblame | nice |
| 05:58.08 | WisTilt2 | ok great. arrrghhh, just uploaded the image and kernel pack with everything back to normal. hopefully someone with the sod and dmesg dump will pinpoint where its happening. |
| 05:58.16 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 05:58.26 | arrrghhh | i'll have to give some special instructions to get that last_kmsg |
| 05:58.30 | arrrghhh | but it's not too difficult. |
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| 05:59.08 | arrrghhh | [acl], what's up man. |
| 05:59.09 | WisTilt2 | this kernel is identical to the last you posted except these verbose outputs so should work the same. |
| 05:59.09 | [acl] | its a celebration bitches .. |
| 05:59.14 | arrrghhh | no... |
| 05:59.17 | arrrghhh | did you?!?! |
| 05:59.20 | [acl] | finally |
| 05:59.25 | arrrghhh | hell yes. |
| 05:59.33 | [acl] | early stages tho |
| 05:59.36 | [acl] | havent done a full boot |
| 05:59.42 | [acl] | but we can write to nand |
| 05:59.43 | arrrghhh | still |
| 05:59.44 | arrrghhh | writing |
| 05:59.47 | arrrghhh | is a big step |
| 05:59.52 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 06:00.10 | F22 | nice :) |
| 06:00.12 | [acl] | the flashing tools themselves are failing me.. flash_image .. just sits there.. but i can mount and write all the files i want |
| 06:00.30 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: did you ever try the non-microp autobl i sent you in nand? |
| 06:00.48 | [acl] | WisTilt2: yes sir.. and i should apologize for not getting back to you sooner |
| 06:01.09 | [acl] | but i completely forgot that we need to read the autobl value from microp .. |
| 06:01.12 | WisTilt2 | wondered what happened to you:( |
| 06:01.34 | WisTilt2 | huh? how so |
| 06:01.47 | [acl] | autobl is set on dbgfs under microp |
| 06:01.57 | WisTilt2 | oh yeah, to get the userland state |
| 06:01.58 | [acl] | should move it somewhere happier |
| 06:02.02 | [acl] | yeah .. |
| 06:02.28 | WisTilt2 | sys but thats someone elses job:) |
| 06:02.33 | [acl] | haha |
| 06:02.40 | WisTilt2 | did it work on nand ok? |
| 06:02.40 | [acl] | yeah so ill talk to stinedb bout it |
| 06:02.46 | [acl] | so far so good |
| 06:03.04 | [acl] | need a new initrd .. and prob do away with rootfs |
| 06:03.14 | arrrghhh | just merge 'em? |
| 06:03.27 | WisTilt2 | you can set the ramp up/down rates now which is cool for different effects under different lighting if you want to get crazy with it. |
| 06:03.28 | [acl] | well im looking at vogue and they seem to compress it somehow |
| 06:03.43 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:03.59 | [acl] | WisTilt2: once i saw your code i was looking at the manual ..and i saw that its really flexible as to what we can do |
| 06:04.25 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: you read about my latest power saving panel collapse yet? under 1% per hour in sleep on several phones:) |
| 06:04.34 | [acl] | jeez |
| 06:04.46 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh actually got around .7% last night |
| 06:04.46 | [acl] | next thing you will tell me you figured out a way to generate power |
| 06:04.56 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:04.58 | [acl] | thats awesome |
| 06:05.02 | WisTilt2 | recycle power not used to charge battery lol |
| 06:05.03 | arrrghhh | phone gives power back to the grid. |
| 06:05.08 | F22 | now if only gps didn't screw pm up... |
| 06:05.19 | [acl] | arrrghhh: dont be surprised if he uses the panel somehow to recharge |
| 06:05.21 | [acl] | :-p |
| 06:05.25 | WisTilt2 | [acl] im working on PM, it has major problems |
| 06:05.26 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 06:05.38 | [acl] | WisTilt2: ahh thank goodness someone had the balls to tackle that |
| 06:05.43 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:05.55 | [acl] | i have balls but figured they best used for nand |
| 06:05.57 | [acl] | :-p |
| 06:06.08 | WisTilt2 | right off the bat i found a variable defined to 16bits where values exceed that by far |
| 06:06.22 | WisTilt2 | could be whats causing the sod |
| 06:06.45 | [acl] | could b.. |
| 06:06.59 | [acl] | im pretty drained .. with the nand, the .35 and other randome life bullshit... |
| 06:07.04 | [acl] | i need to win the lottery |
| 06:07.08 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:07.12 | arrrghhh | don't we all :P |
| 06:07.40 | [acl] | need to figure out a way the kernel can get me bitches |
| 06:07.42 | [acl] | :-p |
| 06:07.50 | arrrghhh | hahahaha |
| 06:07.58 | arrrghhh | bitches n kernels don't mix i'm afraid. |
| 06:08.06 | WisTilt2 | [acl] before you disappear... do you know if your .35 fb does anything funny timing wise during transition to sleep? like around 5seconds delay? |
| 06:08.13 | arrrghhh | my gf gets pissed off every time i go for my computer as it is... |
| 06:09.03 | [acl] | WisTilt2: not that i can thin of. only thing in fb is the clocks. it turns clocks on and off. So if you have a runaway power somewhere, need to check the clock code again. |
| 06:09.25 | [acl] | but i think the clock code is pretty solid.. not sure what else it could be |
| 06:10.10 | [acl] | sad that boats and hoes mix but not kernels and bitches |
| 06:10.13 | [acl] | a damn shame |
| 06:10.18 | WisTilt2 | something pertaining to the fb is not playing well with panel timing on resume. had to tweak panel collapse to work around it but now from sleep panel wakes almost instantly. |
| 06:10.39 | WisTilt2 | panel init i meant |
| 06:12.08 | randomblame | sadly the bitches like ios |
| 06:12.11 | WisTilt2 | damn, was just going to ask F22 something about his dmesg dump |
| 06:12.37 | [acl] | WisTilt2: i suppose we need to printk the hell out of fb. but it doesnt deal that much with panel. the code itself is pretty simple |
| 06:12.42 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, ask away i can bug him about it tomorrow. |
| 06:12.44 | [acl] | randomblame: sad but true |
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| 06:13.03 | arrrghhh | haha nvm. |
| 06:13.31 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: if its just clocks, i wonder if one of them is being set down too soon |
| 06:13.59 | F22 | accidentally hit the power switch on my surge protector with my foot... :P |
| 06:14.07 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:14.09 | arrrghhh | that sucks |
| 06:14.12 | WisTilt2 | F22: on that dmesg you posted, did you put it in sleep then immediately wake it back up? |
| 06:14.48 | F22 | i put it to sleep and woke it back up several times. don't recall which time that was. but i did some of both. |
| 06:15.32 | WisTilt2 | ok. |
| 06:15.35 | [acl] | WisTilt2: well maybe add a delay on the novatec driver when it calls the blank ? |
| 06:15.36 | F22 | i'm kind of surprised i only saw 3 sets of that message. i could have sworn i had put it sleep and woken it back up more times than that. |
| 06:16.00 | WisTilt2 | can you guys try this last kernel before arrrghhh posts it and make sure panel still comes up right away? |
| 06:16.09 | F22 | sure thing |
| 06:16.39 | [acl] | anyways fellas i need to get to bed. I'll be talkin to u lata wis |
| 06:16.44 | F22 | zImage or pack? |
| 06:16.48 | [acl] | time to celebrate with a power nap |
| 06:16.52 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 06:16.52 | F22 | g'nite ACL |
| 06:16.52 | [acl] | :-D |
| 06:16.58 | arrrghhh | cya dude |
| 06:17.01 | F22 | and congratz |
| 06:17.03 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: yes, that's exactly where i think the problem is, panel doesnt come up before fb has data in it so we dont always get the graphics displayed on resume. |
| 06:17.16 | WisTilt2 | if unblank could be delayed that should fix it |
| 06:17.23 | WisTilt2 | F22 both are up |
| 06:17.37 | randomblame | link me and I can test it too |
| 06:17.55 | randomblame | well rhod300 should work the same |
| 06:17.55 | arrrghhh | randomblame, don't you have a RHOD300? |
| 06:18.00 | arrrghhh | that's not a good test :P |
| 06:18.06 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:18.07 | WisTilt2 | F22: you should get those each time you sleep for sure |
| 06:18.23 | randomblame | I have two rhod300s |
| 06:18.24 | F22 | i will check more carefully once i have your latest running. |
| 06:19.11 | randomblame | my wifes running the same kernel and userland has more issues than mine with timeouts - it's odd |
| 06:19.16 | arrrghhh | lol the kernel-pack is a little recursive. |
| 06:20.25 | arrrghhh | or redundant? meh. looks like they're all there and updated. |
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| 06:20.49 | WisTilt2 | guys i hate to say this but hold off on that last kernel, forgot to change something back... give me a minute |
| 06:20.57 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, np. |
| 06:21.06 | arrrghhh | good thing you said something, i was close to booting it :P |
| 06:22.23 | WisTilt2 | ok good to go now |
| 06:23.03 | arrrghhh | kk |
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| 06:23.12 | F22 | lol, i had just rebooted.... |
| 06:24.54 | arrrghhh | alright booting |
| 06:25.06 | arrrghhh | need to sleep after this test... |
| 06:25.26 | WisTilt2 | me too. hope we can get some good data on the next sod |
| 06:29.59 | arrrghhh | new kernel workin fine |
| 06:30.19 | WisTilt2 | ok now hope for sod and some data! |
| 06:30.26 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:30.36 | arrrghhh | well i won't hope for an SoD |
| 06:30.42 | arrrghhh | but i'll probably get one nonetheless :P |
| 06:30.44 | F22 | first time i've ever hoped for one of those...lol. |
| 06:30.58 | arrrghhh | seriously |
| 06:31.08 | arrrghhh | i'll post this kernel with that last_kmsg info tomorrow morning |
| 06:31.17 | WisTilt2 | this should narrow down that bad area causing it i hope |
| 06:31.22 | arrrghhh | and i'll shoot you another email if i find something juicy. |
| 06:31.33 | arrrghhh | only time will tell... |
| 06:31.41 | WisTilt2 | ok sounds good. ill be at my office all day so ill be in here all day for a change. |
| 06:32.13 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 06:32.14 | F22 | WisTilt2: btw, since you expressed interest, i have a new rootfs posted to xda with overhauled keymaps/layouts if you want to give it a try. |
| 06:32.36 | WisTilt2 | yes for sure. hopefully you fixed the underscore:) |
| 06:32.41 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:33.09 | F22 | i believe i took care of that awhile back. pohket pointed it out to me if i recall correctly. |
| 06:33.22 | WisTilt2 | is it on xda forum or where? |
| 06:33.49 | F22 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935710 |
| 06:33.59 | arrrghhh | alrighty, i'm off to bed guys. thanks for the new test kernel WisTilt2, fingers are crossed that it turns up something usable to fix this SoD crap. |
| 06:34.11 | WisTilt2 | thanks, ill try it tomorrow at office. |
| 06:34.26 | WisTilt2 | nite arrrghhh, catch ya tomorrow |
| 06:34.32 | F22 | g'nite arrrghhh |
| 06:34.40 | arrrghhh | peace! |
| 06:35.51 | WisTilt2 | ok im out also. look forward to checking out the rootfs. |
| 06:36.06 | randomblame | night |
| 06:36.06 | F22 | let me know if you have any issues with it. |
| 06:36.19 | WisTilt2 | will do. later guys |
| 06:36.20 | F22 | have a good night |
| 06:36.48 | randomblame | I'll be trying your new rootfs too - my memory isn't good enough to make good use of the keymapping though ha |
| 06:38.22 | F22 | lol, most of the additional keys are also in the symbol palette. |
| 06:38.54 | randomblame | woah sym workes |
| 06:39.00 | F22 | yup :D |
| 06:39.05 | randomblame | that's awesome |
| 06:39.33 | randomblame | ok I guess I have to do it now then |
| 06:40.08 | F22 | i expanded the symbol palette from 12 to 18 with a patch that got included in frx04. |
| 06:40.42 | F22 | i'll likely look into the possibility of expanding it even further at some point. |
| 06:40.52 | randomblame | that would be great |
| 06:41.31 | randomblame | haha I have to download the freakin spreadsheet |
| 06:42.24 | F22 | i could probably take a snapshot of it and post the pic to the post, but there are a lot of key additions, and they're not completely the same across all rhod's. |
| 06:42.47 | randomblame | yeah too many freaking rhods |
| 06:42.57 | F22 | so the spreadsheet lists what the keys are for each rhod model. |
| 06:44.09 | randomblame | this is good stuff |
| 06:44.17 | F22 | thank you :) |
| 06:44.19 | randomblame | I forgot about all these shortcuts |
| 06:44.22 | randomblame | no thank you |
| 06:44.24 | randomblame | :D |
| 06:44.33 | F22 | lol, i'm loving those shortcuts myself. |
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| 06:46.54 | randomblame | alright booting it now |
| 06:47.19 | F22 | using any of the options? |
| 06:47.35 | randomblame | uh oh |
| 06:47.43 | F22 | lol |
| 06:47.53 | F22 | you're on a tilt2/300 right? |
| 06:47.59 | randomblame | yeah |
| 06:48.06 | randomblame | it's broke |
| 06:48.13 | F22 | broke? |
| 06:48.18 | randomblame | I tried a short cut and the phone exploded |
| 06:48.23 | randomblame | I caught some shrapnel |
| 06:48.30 | randomblame | blood everywhere |
| 06:48.34 | F22 | lol |
| 06:48.45 | randomblame | it's still booting :D |
| 06:48.48 | F22 | ok |
| 06:49.16 | F22 | tilt2/300 doesn't have an envelope key, so if you want search/short cuts, then you need to reassign another key. |
| 06:49.32 | F22 | that's done via startup.txt |
| 06:49.45 | randomblame | ah |
| 06:50.11 | F22 | same goes for home button if you want the long press to give you the recent apps list. |
| 06:50.35 | randomblame | hmm I think search will go ptt |
| 06:50.42 | F22 | the rest of the additions are all automatically available. |
| 06:51.55 | F22 | rhod300 has a somewhat useful home key on the kbd instead of a useless envelope key. so i figured some people would scream if i changed its default behavior to search/short cuts instead. |
| 06:52.04 | randomblame | woah random reboot |
| 06:52.31 | F22 | hmmm...are you running frx04? |
| 06:52.34 | randomblame | yep |
| 06:52.46 | randomblame | and wistilt2s 1/30 |
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| 06:53.14 | F22 | ok, you should be good then. i'm working from the latest rootfs and that has issues with frx03 if you aren't already mount binding ACL's libGLES and gralloc. |
| 06:53.49 | randomblame | shit it did it again |
| 06:54.09 | randomblame | not so random though fn wifi |
| 06:54.17 | randomblame | happened both times when I pushed that combo |
| 06:54.28 | F22 | fn-wifi? |
| 06:54.55 | F22 | don't recall there being such a fn... |
| 06:54.59 | randomblame | doesn't look like you mapped it |
| 06:55.07 | randomblame | it's right |
| 06:55.08 | F22 | i don't use wifi however. |
| 06:55.17 | randomblame | dpad right is fn wifi |
| 06:55.25 | randomblame | on the 300 |
| 06:55.59 | randomblame | man it just rebooted all the way to windows |
| 06:56.04 | randomblame | this is weird |
| 06:56.13 | randomblame | deleting my data.img nessecary? |
| 06:56.31 | F22 | give me a sec and i'll pull out both the layout file and the pic of the kbd. |
| 06:56.38 | F22 | shouldn't be necessary to delete the data.img |
| 06:57.27 | randomblame | ok maybe it's just a pissed off boot |
| 06:57.37 | randomblame | I'll try again |
| 06:58.07 | F22 | nope, fn-wifi isn't mapped to anything. that's a problem with android's design... |
| 06:58.29 | F22 | or i should say fn-wifi should just result in dpad-right |
| 06:58.40 | F22 | android issue |
| 06:59.03 | F22 | can't map more than one "function" to a key, except for sym, but that's a google hack. |
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| 06:59.30 | randomblame | ah and dpad right is considered a function to begin with? |
| 06:59.39 | F22 | yep |
| 06:59.59 | randomblame | lol that's just odd |
| 07:00.18 | randomblame | maybe that's why it got irritated when I pushed the fn key and right |
| 07:00.43 | randomblame | maybe I confused it |
| 07:00.45 | F22 | basically keycodes that -do something- go in the layout file, not in the keymap file. |
| 07:00.47 | MassStash | bummer no test kern tonight? |
| 07:00.48 | randomblame | or maybe it's coincidence |
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| 07:01.14 | F22 | can't combine keycodes |
| 07:01.52 | F22 | and that's what we'd have to somehow do if we wanted a key to act as both dpad_right and to open up wifi. |
| 07:02.12 | randomblame | anything else to map wifi to? that would be a handy shortcut |
| 07:02.15 | F22 | honestly, i'm not even sure there is a keycode to open up wifi. |
| 07:02.24 | F22 | i'd have to check the list. |
| 07:02.50 | F22 | i know there are more than just the ones we're using. |
| 07:02.58 | F22 | i know there is both a camera keycode and a focus keycode. |
| 07:03.06 | F22 | the focus keycode is also for the camera. |
| 07:03.31 | randomblame | I figured |
| 07:03.36 | randomblame | maybe that will be useful soon :D |
| 07:04.07 | randomblame | it's crashing browser when I do fn sym |
| 07:04.30 | F22 | but the tilt2 uses it already for one of the other characters for which android has no keycode. it will be interesting to see if that keycode starts making the camera focus as well as printing exclamation points or whatever it is currently assigned to. |
| 07:05.28 | F22 | i haven't been curious enough to dig into android's java framework to see if there is any code to back the focus key up. |
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| 07:06.02 | randomblame | that would be so cool if it did work |
| 07:06.20 | randomblame | winmo seems to focus whenever the hell it wants to |
| 07:06.35 | F22 | so fn-wifi crashes android and fn-sym is crashing your browser? |
| 07:07.54 | randomblame | fn wifi isn't crashing it anymore it goes to a black screen then back to homescreen and it does the same with fn* |
| 07:08.35 | F22 | testing on my own kbd, fn-sym doesn't do anything if there is no cursor in the browser. if i click on a line however it works for me. |
| 07:08.52 | F22 | a line where i can type that is. |
| 07:08.55 | randomblame | let me try a different field |
| 07:09.36 | randomblame | um |
| 07:09.44 | F22 | ? |
| 07:09.50 | randomblame | the menu button crashed the browser |
| 07:09.52 | randomblame | twice |
| 07:10.08 | randomblame | three times |
| 07:10.17 | randomblame | 4 |
| 07:10.20 | randomblame | lol |
| 07:10.30 | F22 | what about call and back? |
| 07:10.54 | randomblame | menu seems to be the back button now |
| 07:11.17 | randomblame | yep |
| 07:11.37 | randomblame | back button is also working as back button |
| 07:11.49 | F22 | menu and back are switched, back is ok? |
| 07:11.55 | F22 | that sounds like a microp layout issue |
| 07:12.10 | randomblame | no all of the front buttons are working as a back button |
| 07:12.10 | randomblame | lol |
| 07:12.20 | F22 | uh... |
| 07:12.24 | randomblame | shit |
| 07:12.25 | randomblame | another reboot |
| 07:12.44 | randomblame | I think it's borked |
| 07:12.53 | F22 | do you have adb working? |
| 07:12.59 | randomblame | yeah |
| 07:13.23 | randomblame | mann it just rebooted again to winmo |
| 07:13.24 | F22 | pastebin both /sdcard/kbd_info and dmesg for me |
| 07:14.08 | F22 | also, what line are you using for set cmdline in startup.txt? |
| 07:15.20 | randomblame | bah that's on my windows install |
| 07:15.39 | F22 | windows rebooted on you too? |
| 07:15.43 | randomblame | no |
| 07:15.48 | randomblame | I'm in a virtual machine |
| 07:16.17 | randomblame | and everything I'm working with is seperated |
| 07:16.21 | randomblame | I'll pastebin my startup for you |
| 07:16.25 | F22 | ok |
| 07:17.18 | randomblame | http://pastebin.com/QDgVN0Yb |
| 07:17.46 | randomblame | and I'll dump dmesg for you after a quick smoke break :D |
| 07:19.01 | F22 | startup looks fine to me |
| 07:19.07 | F22 | lol, ok |
| 07:23.05 | randomblame | ok I'm on it |
| 07:23.22 | F22 | ok |
| 07:23.25 | randomblame | I need more monitors |
| 07:23.30 | F22 | me too |
| 07:25.04 | randomblame | I just got a nice new articulating wall mount for these two |
| 07:25.27 | randomblame | I need another mount for the 30in so I can use that without the kid pulling it off my desk |
| 07:28.08 | randomblame | weird |
| 07:28.11 | randomblame | dmesg was blank |
| 07:28.57 | F22 | very weird |
| 07:29.14 | randomblame | still coming up blank... |
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| 07:30.23 | randomblame | adb.exe dmesg > c:\dmesg.txt should work right |
| 07:30.46 | randomblame | it's making new files they're just blank |
| 07:32.13 | F22 | forward slash, it's linux, not windows |
| 07:32.22 | F22 | er sorry |
| 07:32.26 | F22 | you're doing it from windows |
| 07:32.41 | F22 | hmm...shell |
| 07:33.18 | F22 | shouldn't it be: adb.exe shell dmesg > c:\dmesg.txt |
| 07:33.49 | randomblame | you're right |
| 07:34.15 | randomblame | keybd_info http://pastebin.com/BEMEg0KY |
| 07:35.27 | F22 | while you're at it pull me the /sdcard/kbd_info too. |
| 07:35.49 | randomblame | dmesg http://pastebin.com/G0CM3cmR |
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| 07:36.01 | F22 | heh, reverse order |
| 07:36.05 | randomblame | yep |
| 07:36.24 | randomblame | from dmesg : |
| 07:36.27 | gpc_ | my kernel cannot working on CWM mode, here is the dmesg, is anybody know what happen? http://pastebin.com/uzLc1LEd |
| 07:36.36 | F22 | kbd_info looks good |
| 07:37.02 | F22 | gpc_: what phone? |
| 07:37.09 | gpc_ | HTCLEO |
| 07:37.09 | randomblame | look at the dmesg |
| 07:37.12 | randomblame | that's it |
| 07:37.25 | randomblame | gpiomatrix: umapped key changed to 1 |
| 07:37.30 | randomblame | 3 of those |
| 07:37.38 | randomblame | at 128 |
| 07:37.41 | F22 | gpc_: need to talk to a leo dev. |
| 07:38.33 | randomblame | [ 128.884002] gpiomatrix: unmapped key, 0-3 (35-18) changed to 1 |
| 07:38.33 | randomblame | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.33 | randomblame | [ 128.934326] gpiomatrix: unmapped key, 0-3 (35-18) changed to 1 |
| 07:38.33 | randomblame | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.33 | randomblame | [ 128.984680] gpiomatrix: unmapped key, 0-3 (35-18) changed to 1 |
| 07:39.57 | F22 | interesting |
| 07:40.39 | F22 | ok i'll have another adb command for you to try in a minute |
| 07:40.52 | randomblame | any rhod300 users reporting trouble in the xda thread? |
| 07:41.02 | randomblame | k |
| 07:41.42 | F22 | not when i last checked which was maybe 3 hours ago when i first got on. |
| 07:41.58 | F22 | that doesn't mean that there isn't an issue however. |
| 07:43.42 | F22 | try: adb.exe shell ls -ls /etc/keymaps > c:\ls-keymaps.txt |
| 07:45.35 | randomblame | http://pastebin.com/trtVn8tB |
| 07:46.30 | randomblame | how's that look |
| 07:46.45 | F22 | messed up :P |
| 07:47.03 | F22 | but i can make sense out of it. although it may be quicker to do it again with just the -s instead of the -ls. |
| 07:47.37 | randomblame | kk |
| 07:48.07 | randomblame | adb.exe shell ls -s /etc/keymaps > c:\ls-keymaps.txt |
| 07:49.37 | randomblame | http://pastebin.com/X0C1sQUd |
| 07:49.46 | XirXes | wow F22 your rootfs post is quite the read |
| 07:49.50 | randomblame | also looks messy |
| 07:50.10 | F22 | and less useful, s'ok. i think i see what the problem is. |
| 07:50.49 | F22 | lol, hopefully that's good Xirx. there are a lot of key changes in that rootfs. |
| 07:51.01 | XirXes | it is |
| 07:51.11 | randomblame | hopefully there will be a few more :D |
| 07:51.30 | F22 | randomblame: your key layout file is good. but you don't have a good key code map binary. |
| 07:51.35 | XirXes | im not the tl;dr type so i read the entirety of it before downloading |
| 07:51.49 | randomblame | is it just corrupt? |
| 07:52.14 | F22 | no, missing |
| 07:53.02 | randomblame | odd |
| 07:53.02 | XirXes | mediafire is bugging out or something. i get an error page saying my connection to the server was reset instead of a file. ill try dling again in chrome. |
| 07:53.06 | F22 | i think i can give you a quick "fix" that should make the problem go away until the next reboot. if that works then we've confirmed the issue. |
| 07:53.14 | randomblame | ok |
| 07:54.18 | XirXes | nope. not downloading |
| 07:54.21 | XirXes | damn |
| 07:54.36 | randomblame | xirxes what rhod do you have? |
| 07:54.40 | XirXes | 210 |
| 07:54.58 | randomblame | nm |
| 07:55.42 | F22 | try: adb.exe shell cp /etc/keymaps/rhod300_microp-keypad.kcm.bin /etc/keymaps/microp-keypad.kcm.bin |
| 07:57.20 | randomblame | cp -ls? |
| 07:57.43 | F22 | init is supposed to do that during boot, but it appears to have failed on the 300. it copied your layout just fine however. |
| 07:58.07 | F22 | just plain cp is fine, you could also do a cp -f for force |
| 07:58.34 | XirXes | man that really irritates me that i cant download that. i think mediafires dl sever is totally down. which seems crazy to me cause i think its distributed load serving |
| 07:59.23 | F22 | xda has an 8mb file size limit. it's 10mb compressed via 7zip. |
| 07:59.48 | XirXes | ill just have to wait till tomorrow. :( |
| 07:59.58 | randomblame | hmm that's just not working |
| 08:00.04 | randomblame | it gives me a list of options for cp |
| 08:00.30 | F22 | so it doesn't like the command |
| 08:01.03 | randomblame | oh it wanted a directory to copy it to that worked till it says no such file or directory maybe I mistyped let me see |
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| 08:02.01 | randomblame | I did mistype so that worked then itsaid c:\ is a read only directory .. wtf |
| 08:02.23 | F22 | c:\ ? we're not copying to c:\ |
| 08:02.51 | randomblame | woah I missed half the command |
| 08:02.52 | randomblame | I'm tired |
| 08:03.22 | randomblame | it worked |
| 08:03.25 | randomblame | now to test |
| 08:03.34 | F22 | we're basically copying the original keymap binary for your handset to the name that the kernel expects to find it under. |
| 08:03.44 | F22 | in the same folder. |
| 08:03.56 | randomblame | that did it the keys are working again |
| 08:04.25 | randomblame | abd just crashed though |
| 08:04.31 | randomblame | it's still unstable as shit |
| 08:04.44 | F22 | lol, at least it waited until after we were done to crash. :P |
| 08:04.48 | randomblame | yeah |
| 08:04.55 | XirXes | shit can be pretty stable depending on the density |
| 08:05.08 | randomblame | not mine cheese nips do not digest well |
| 08:05.15 | XirXes | lol |
| 08:05.32 | randomblame | anyways now that thats been figured out I'm gonna turn off the computer before the wife kills me |
| 08:05.34 | randomblame | night guys |
| 08:05.43 | F22 | have a good night randomblame |
| 08:06.59 | F22 | Xirxes: I wouldn't mind putting it up elsewhere, bit it's rather late tonight to create an account on another site. :P |
| 08:07.14 | F22 | at least for me. |
| 08:07.23 | XirXes | dont bother. mediafire will get itself sorted |
| 08:08.09 | XirXes | man every time i play with my rhod now i get angry that its keyboard is so much better than my g2's |
| 08:08.19 | F22 | 210 should work fine since it's what i have and i'm running it fine. i know 400 works too. tilt2 and 500 may have issues. not sure about the 100's. |
| 08:09.12 | XirXes | i figured it would be fine. i kinda wanted to get my hands in it and modify it to my liking |
| 08:09.26 | XirXes | but i guess i can play tomorrow |
| 08:09.45 | F22 | i rewrote the part of init that handles kbd selection, and that may be causing some issues for some handsets. |
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| 08:10.02 | XirXes | the worst part about the g2s keyboard for me is that enter is where del is on the rhod |
| 08:10.06 | F22 | this is why i released a "test" rootfs... ;) |
| 08:10.18 | F22 | yeah, i love the tp2's kbd. |
| 08:10.32 | XirXes | so i end up sending half written texts with typos at the end all the time now |
| 08:10.42 | F22 | ow, that's awkward... |
| 08:10.59 | XirXes | its like half the reason why i refuse to get rid of it |
| 08:11.08 | XirXes | plus mines in really good condition |
| 08:11.12 | F22 | lol, very understandable |
| 08:11.16 | F22 | what's the other half? |
| 08:11.24 | XirXes | its not done yet |
| 08:11.28 | F22 | lol |
| 08:11.32 | F22 | i can empathize with that. |
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| 08:12.11 | XirXes | when i got it i got it with the intention of putting android on it and i will see that through |
| 08:12.33 | F22 | you sound determined. :D |
| 08:13.09 | XirXes | lol. not determined enough to lurn to code but i intend on changing that pretty soon |
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| 08:13.32 | F22 | have you rooted your g2 yet? |
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| 08:13.55 | XirXes | oh yeah. i made it a whole day with t-mobiles rom |
| 08:14.04 | F22 | lol |
| 08:14.24 | XirXes | but i had it rooted within the hour so i could make a nandroid backup of the stock rom |
| 08:14.42 | F22 | btw, do you know if your g2 has any foreign language keymaps/layouts included? |
| 08:15.05 | F22 | probably not, but it may be worth a quick look see. |
| 08:15.14 | XirXes | i dont think so. ill look right now |
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| 08:17.30 | F22 | thanks. i have a request for help with a greek keymap. i don't have time to look up the utf8 hex codes for all those characters. it would help immensely if we could just pull the cyrillic keymap off of a desire z that has it. the odds of the g2 having however aren't that high unfortunately. |
| 08:17.59 | XirXes | well ill look in my desire z rom too then |
| 08:18.27 | F22 | oooh...you have one of those too. that would be a better shot. |
| 08:19.52 | XirXes | ill start with it then. i kinda doubt it will be in there tho. it seems like this rom is set up to use one keymap for all. but im sure i could track down a greek or italian rom if i cant find it |
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| 08:20.38 | F22 | italian uses a latin alphabet, nothing novel there. a greek or russian rom is what we need. |
| 08:20.47 | XirXes | ok |
| 08:21.20 | F22 | cool, thanks |
| 08:23.49 | XirXes | whats the command for inspecting a file in linux. like to see what format the file is |
| 08:24.22 | F22 | file |
| 08:24.30 | F22 | it's not available in android however |
| 08:25.44 | XirXes | damn. i cant look through my system dumps. linux sees it as a vms alpha exectuable. ill just look through the live system then |
| 08:27.13 | XirXes | what you want would be in a .kl correct? |
| 08:27.27 | F22 | .kl and .kcm |
| 08:27.40 | F22 | the first is the layout, the second the keymap |
| 08:27.54 | F22 | the .kcm.bin's i can make from the .kcm's. |
| 08:28.33 | XirXes | i have .kl and .kcm.bin but no kcm |
| 08:28.45 | XirXes | but i have a rus one here |
| 08:28.52 | F22 | get me the .kcm.bin then, i can reverse compile it. |
| 08:29.02 | XirXes | sweet |
| 08:29.34 | F22 | if you can get me the rus too, that would be great. the cyrillic chars may not be exactly the same. |
| 08:29.54 | F22 | there may be some distinctions between them. |
| 08:30.08 | F22 | just like there are with some latin alphabets. |
| 08:31.06 | XirXes | ill list the languages i have in a moment. there are at least a dozen here |
| 08:32.42 | F22 | ok |
| 08:33.41 | XirXes | ara, ell, esn, fra, ger, hk, ita, nor, rus, sea, tur, wwe, wwe-bopomo |
| 08:34.09 | F22 | wwe-bopomo? |
| 08:34.19 | XirXes | i thought the same thing |
| 08:34.26 | XirXes | i have no idea |
| 08:34.29 | F22 | i know wwe is world-wide-english. |
| 08:34.33 | XirXes | yeah |
| 08:34.41 | F22 | the bopomo part however.. :P |
| 08:34.44 | F22 | shrugs |
| 08:34.50 | XirXes | indeed |
| 08:34.58 | XirXes | which ones would you like |
| 08:34.59 | XirXes | ? |
| 08:35.31 | F22 | hmm....so no greek then. which one did you look at first before? |
| 08:36.02 | XirXes | what do you mean |
| 08:36.18 | F22 | which rom did you look through before for those files? |
| 08:36.51 | XirXes | these are in virtuous rom. its a sense based custom rom im running |
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| 08:37.09 | F22 | ahhh...so you looked in your sense based custom rom then. |
| 08:37.18 | XirXes | yeah |
| 08:37.28 | F22 | and you don't hav a gr (greek) version in your virtual rom. |
| 08:37.46 | F22 | you do have russian however, and some other interesting ones. |
| 08:37.56 | XirXes | nope. ill look to see if there is a greek version of the g2 |
| 08:38.28 | F22 | i was told that there is a greek version of the desire z. g2 is just for tmobile us i believe. |
| 08:39.57 | F22 | ara=arabic i assume, esn=spain, hk=hong kong i'm guessing, rus=russian, tur=turkey. none of those do we currently have. ell and sea i have no clue what they are offhand. fra, ger, ita we already have. |
| 08:40.28 | FD-hd2 | south east asia |
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| 08:40.52 | F22 | ah, interesting |
| 08:40.54 | F22 | thanks |
| 08:40.59 | FD-hd2 | np |
| 08:44.04 | XirXes | there is indeed a greek version of the desire z. i pulled up the desire z's manual in greek from htc's site and the keyboard does have specialized characters |
| 08:45.37 | F22 | yup, that's pretty much what i expected you'd find. |
| 08:45.56 | F22 | i haven't looked at the greek desire z's manual, but i did look at the greek tp2's. |
| 08:46.40 | XirXes | im just gunna send you all of them. maybe one of them is greek and we just dont know which one |
| 08:46.51 | F22 | lol, ok. sounds good. |
| 08:48.16 | F22 | it's not starting |
| 08:48.41 | XirXes | alright. ill get a link for you then |
| 08:48.55 | F22 | ok |
| 08:49.48 | XirXes | http://www.multiupload.com/1Y8Q1RJS9N |
| 08:53.03 | F22 | cool, got them. thanks! |
| 08:53.22 | XirXes | np |
| 08:53.48 | XirXes | i actually tried a few different roms before i settled on virtuos. i really like the little things that sense ads to android. |
| 08:54.17 | F22 | they organized them by column instead of row. i wonder they changed that up on us. row seemed simpler and more straightforward. |
| 08:54.29 | F22 | s/wonder/wonder why/ |
| 08:55.03 | XirXes | especially considering theres only 4 rows on the thing |
| 08:55.23 | F22 | yep |
| 08:55.25 | XirXes | instead of 12 columns |
| 08:56.01 | XirXes | if it werent for alt lock id really hate this keyboard |
| 08:57.14 | XirXes | and i still kindof do cause alt del clears the box your typing in so when you screw up typing in numbers and hit del you have to start all over |
| 08:57.38 | XirXes | i swear pretty loudly every time that happens |
| 08:57.53 | F22 | ok, now it's time to grab a desire z kbd image so i can make sense of some of these. they have some very different keycodes that they're using. |
| 08:58.18 | F22 | alt lock? |
| 08:58.51 | XirXes | double pressing alt makes it stay on like on the tp2 |
| 08:59.00 | F22 | ahh |
| 08:59.25 | XirXes | i guess its not an obvious thing |
| 08:59.57 | F22 | lol, it makes perfect sense now that you mention it. |
| 09:00.08 | XirXes | i figured it out on my dash on accident and its worked on every phone ive had since then |
| 09:00.19 | F22 | i just rarely lock the alt key so it didn't quickly come to my mind. |
| 09:00.38 | XirXes | i see |
| 09:00.50 | XirXes | yeah, you dont ever need to on the tp2 |
| 09:01.13 | F22 | the alt del thing sounds like a real joy kill however. i'd swear too. :P |
| 09:01.14 | XirXes | i miss my dedicated number row!! |
| 09:01.18 | XirXes | sobs |
| 09:01.44 | F22 | you still have it, just not on your fast new handset. |
| 09:02.10 | XirXes | i know. sometimes you just cant have your cake and eat it too |
| 09:02.16 | FD-hd2 | lol |
| 09:02.20 | XirXes | but it is FAST tho |
| 09:03.50 | F22 | it's kind of sad, but most handset manufacturers are just aping the iphone. they're putting their best work into slates, keyboards are a mere afterthought these days. so despite making the best phone keyboard ever made, htc hasn't bothered to bring it to its android line. |
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| 09:04.49 | XirXes | i know. the touch pro 7 (or whatever its called) has a really nice looking keyboard tho |
| 09:05.05 | F22 | yup, it looks like the direct descendant of our tp2 kbd. |
| 09:06.35 | XirXes | i bet itl get android stuffed into it at some point. all the wp7 devices are practically hd2s |
| 09:06.57 | F22 | the z-hinge is a silly gimmick. |
| 09:07.02 | XirXes | that cpu has alot of android devices |
| 09:07.20 | XirXes | the z hinge is really REALLY nice |
| 09:07.33 | F22 | why they went with that instead of the tilting 5 row kbd i have no idea. but whoever made that decision should be fired. |
| 09:07.52 | F22 | ok, tell me why you like the z-hinge. |
| 09:08.30 | XirXes | there is literally no friction when opening the keyboard. the screen just nicely floats out of the way |
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| 09:09.53 | XirXes | does your tp2 not have nice black lines cut into the paint on the sides of the keyboard? that problem is fixed |
| 09:10.23 | F22 | i like a very small amount of friction. it has yet to damage or cause any problems on my phone. But if the z-hinge never feels loose, and come be made tiltable with 5 rows of keys i'd give it a try. :D |
| 09:10.38 | F22 | i have no black lines cut in mine. |
| 09:11.33 | F22 | although if i did, i suppose i'd be liking the z-hinge idea more. :P |
| 09:11.51 | XirXes | my first one was on the way to black lines. it had 2 big black spots tho |
| 09:12.27 | XirXes | i miss the tilt kindof. i feel like thats just as much of a gimic |
| 09:13.05 | XirXes | but that 5th row man. it was a bad idea to get rid of it |
| 09:13.07 | F22 | build quality on mine was superb. i'm still kicking myself for dropping it on concrete the other week and causing very minor paint damage to the side. it's no longer <omg> perfect. But to be perfectly honest, the damage is so minor you have to inspect it really closely to even notice. |
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| 09:13.57 | F22 | someone sitting next to me won't be able to tell. |
| 09:14.17 | XirXes | my first one got really beat up |
| 09:15.12 | XirXes | http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qcebH5Z7okEckHurToKTbI-depfGC9iHEBOy7391u7k?feat=directlink |
| 09:15.18 | F22 | the 2nd one i recently received as a donation isn't quite as nice. |
| 09:15.33 | F22 | feels loose in comparison. |
| 09:16.24 | F22 | it has the auo panel however and so will be highly useful for testing. |
| 09:16.33 | XirXes | my first one got pretty loose. and the alignment was never right. my new one is a really nice piece of kit |
| 09:16.58 | XirXes | oh yeah you ended up with that enginiering sample |
| 09:17.08 | F22 | yup |
| 09:17.33 | XirXes | that will definitly be good for testing |
| 09:18.44 | XirXes | the wierdest difference between my old and new tp2s was the second mic got moved |
| 09:19.06 | XirXes | from below the reset hole to above it |
| 09:19.08 | F22 | that's odd. |
| 09:20.10 | F22 | i can guess why they ditched the home button for menu. |
| 09:20.29 | F22 | microsoft probably made it a requirement for shipping with 6.5. |
| 09:20.35 | XirXes | lol without carier time my tp2s clock has ended up 15 hours and 6 minutes off |
| 09:20.49 | XirXes | im pretty sure they did |
| 09:20.55 | F22 | the hd2 got screwed out of wp7 for having one too many buttons. |
| 09:21.42 | F22 | microsoft refused to allow htc to release an update for the hd2. |
| 09:21.55 | XirXes | yeah that was awfully hebrew of them to not give the hd2 wp7 |
| 09:22.39 | F22 | one too few buttons i could understand, but one too many? that's just ridiculous... |
| 09:23.03 | XirXes | htc knew it would get it anyway tho. they know about xda-devs |
| 09:23.14 | F22 | lol |
| 09:23.30 | F22 | small fraction of the overall user base however. |
| 09:23.49 | XirXes | yeah. |
| 09:24.08 | XirXes | more people should hack there phones |
| 09:24.54 | XirXes | i personally will mod anything anyone brings me at parts cost |
| 09:25.26 | XirXes | so if there arent any parts to buy then there is no exchange of money |
| 09:27.03 | F22 | i used to be that until too many started taking advantage of that willingness. |
| 09:27.06 | F22 | :P |
| 09:27.47 | F22 | too bad there isn't an unlimited amount of time every day to do whatever we want. |
| 09:28.21 | XirXes | there really arent that many people around here that want that kind of service. and i only do word of mouth |
| 09:28.36 | XirXes | speak for yourself. im uninployed |
| 09:28.55 | XirXes | man i suck at spelling tonight |
| 09:28.59 | F22 | oh sorry. |
| 09:29.01 | F22 | me too. |
| 09:29.49 | XirXes | yeah, it was cool for a while but now im just sick of not getting hired. i miss money |
| 09:31.31 | F22 | lots of free time is nice, being poor isn't. |
| 09:32.05 | XirXes | what was the fix for clock differences between winmo and android? setting androids time zone to 0? |
| 09:34.26 | F22 | lol, that would work. |
| 09:34.48 | XirXes | yup it does |
| 09:35.30 | XirXes | the clock kept getting farther and farther away from the actuall time |
| 09:35.40 | F22 | mine is correct in linux, and off in winmo. i haven't really bothered fixing it. but changing the tz would definitely sync them. |
| 09:36.34 | XirXes | mine was wrong in both somehow |
| 09:37.06 | XirXes | and it happened over time after taking the sim out |
| 09:38.05 | F22 | yes, you lose time only under certain conditions. |
| 09:38.18 | XirXes | were any of those keymaps helpful? |
| 09:38.19 | F22 | i forget what those conditions are. i'd have to look them up. |
| 09:38.34 | XirXes | yeah ive heard about it aswell |
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| 09:38.57 | XirXes | i wasnt surprised by it. just annoyed |
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| 09:43.31 | F22 | sort of useful. i really wish they hadn't organized them by column however since the columns are staggered. |
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| 09:44.15 | F22 | i can cross-reference the different layout files to figure out the ones i want. |
| 09:44.48 | Cotulla | hey |
| 09:44.58 | F22 | good morning Cotulla |
| 09:45.18 | Cotulla | :) |
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| 09:51.55 | XirXes | i just thought to look through cyanogenmods github for more keymaps and it doesnt have anymore than i gave you |
| 09:53.59 | F22 | thanks for looking. i can make do with what you've given me. if someone wants something hard to get a hold of i can always send them hunting for it themselves. ;) |
| 09:54.26 | F22 | or they can look up all the utf8 hex codes. ;) |
| 09:54.29 | Cotulla | ~seen gauner1986 |
| 09:54.33 | apt | gauner1986 <~Miranda@p5B383656.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 13h 34m 7s ago, saying: ':D'. |
| 09:55.29 | XirXes | alright, well i think im gunna go to bed now. my bad spelling is enough to tell me its bed time |
| 09:56.26 | F22 | sleep well, thanks for the desire z kl/kcm's. |
| 09:56.28 | Cotulla | apt die |
| 09:56.28 | apt | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
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| 09:56.42 | XirXes | np |
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| 14:03.53 | Ceesheim | Cotulla can I ask you a question ? |
| 14:04.55 | MattOG | It's like visiting the guru on top of the mountain. You only get 3, and that was your first.... ;) |
| 14:04.56 | Cotulla | it dependent which kind of question ;) |
| 14:05.37 | manusfreedom | Cotulla: hi, are you able to reproduce the usb mass storage problem with big transfer? |
| 14:05.51 | Ceesheim | LOL, only if you see it happen that the wp7 phones (HD7) will get a Hspl or something like that |
| 14:06.16 | Ceesheim | ps , I am NOT asking for a ETA just if it would be possible |
| 14:08.20 | Cotulla | my next one is Pro7 I believe ^^ |
| 14:08.50 | manusfreedom | Cotulla like keyboard.... :p |
| 14:08.55 | Ceesheim | that is a real heavy phone ! 180 gramm |
| 14:09.02 | Cotulla | leo is 150? |
| 14:09.20 | Ceesheim | didn't know that , I don't have a leo |
| 14:09.22 | Cotulla | manusfreedom, I am doing it now |
| 14:09.33 | Cotulla | which phone u have? |
| 14:09.37 | Ceesheim | I played with the pro7 |
| 14:09.40 | Ceesheim | HD7 |
| 14:09.58 | Ceesheim | its a cool phone , only the screen is a bit small |
| 14:10.07 | Cotulla | 3.7? |
| 14:10.11 | Ceesheim | 3.6 |
| 14:10.27 | Cotulla | I think normal, 4.3 is big |
| 14:10.40 | MattOG | 4.3 is perfect ;) |
| 14:10.52 | imilka | 43.0 is perfect |
| 14:10.55 | imilka | :P |
| 14:10.56 | MattOG | lol |
| 14:11.02 | Ceesheim | actually 4.3 is kind of big |
| 14:11.03 | Cotulla | anyway it more designed for finger, so 3.7 also enough |
| 14:11.07 | Ceesheim | I like 4 |
| 14:11.33 | manusfreedom | I want a flexible screen... 2 inch in pocket and 12 inch to see video and photo... |
| 14:11.39 | MattOG | Introducing the new HTC HD42 with 42" plasma screen |
| 14:11.48 | Cotulla | how u will move it? |
| 14:12.02 | Cotulla | on back I guess |
| 14:12.06 | Ceesheim | yes your right , I really like the keybourd on the pro7 |
| 14:12.35 | Cotulla | in big rucksack at the back |
| 14:12.52 | Ceesheim | its cool , the tilt thing and strong to (I didn't expact it to be so strong) |
| 14:13.46 | Cotulla | hm copied a lot of small files and all works |
| 14:14.10 | Cotulla | anyway I plan to hack Pro7 |
| 14:14.12 | Cotulla | :P |
| 14:14.32 | Ceesheim | thats good news :) |
| 14:14.57 | Ceesheim | is it right to say that the hardest part is the sspl ? |
| 14:15.47 | Cotulla | who knows |
| 14:16.10 | Ceesheim | LOL, you are :) |
| 14:16.15 | Cotulla | but old technology they are become obsolete with time |
| 14:16.24 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 14:16.42 | manusfreedom | only small files? |
| 14:16.52 | manusfreedom | which total size? |
| 14:16.58 | Cotulla | I tested with big a lot of before |
| 14:17.06 | Cotulla | now copying linux src 212 mb |
| 14:17.13 | manusfreedom | not big enough |
| 14:17.43 | manusfreedom | try to move 5000 files with some 1GB files (total size 8GB) |
| 14:17.55 | manusfreedom | and see if you can go to the end |
| 14:18.12 | Cotulla | hm |
| 14:18.14 | Cotulla | ok |
| 14:18.40 | Cotulla | hm stopped at configfs_example.c |
| 14:18.40 | Cotulla | :P |
| 14:18.40 | manusfreedom | mine stopped completly 2 times (needed to reboot the phone with hard red button) |
| 14:18.47 | Cotulla | don't call it red |
| 14:18.50 | Cotulla | it big fail |
| 14:18.54 | Cotulla | :'( |
| 14:19.13 | manusfreedom | ?? I don't understand... |
| 14:19.40 | Cotulla | once I explain about red button, but after 10 mins I understand that user have yellow, not red button. it was epic fail :'( |
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| 14:19.52 | manusfreedom | ha ok... |
| 14:20.19 | manusfreedom | mine is now black.... pen write on it :p |
| 14:21.03 | Cotulla | card doesn't setup DATA_END sometimes... |
| 14:22.15 | MattOG | ugh android-hd2 camera doing me in... initialised in 2 separate ways it seems |
| 14:22.34 | Ceesheim | thanks for the Answers cotulla , lol, you don't need to react on my pm anymore :) |
| 14:22.46 | Cotulla | I got a lot of spam everyday |
| 14:23.24 | Cotulla | like "I flashed XXX and it stops on white screen! it's bricked!!! HELP MEEEE!!!" |
| 14:23.27 | Ceesheim | I understand that :) , I had sent it only 1 hour back . |
| 14:23.46 | Ceesheim | LOL, I know that one |
| 14:23.52 | MattOG | lol, my new hobby, PM cotulla with random titles |
| 14:23.58 | Ceesheim | how to enter bootloader |
| 14:24.27 | Cotulla | how is ur nick on XDA, MattOG? |
| 14:24.34 | MattOG | lmao the same |
| 14:24.35 | Ceesheim | ceesheim |
| 14:24.45 | MattOG | i don't send dodgy PM's ;) |
| 14:24.49 | MattOG | i read |
| 14:25.01 | Ceesheim | we all read :) |
| 14:25.13 | Ceesheim | thats way we are here |
| 14:25.28 | Cotulla | ya |
| 14:26.00 | MattOG | Cotulla: checking your inbox for my name now? "Settings->Ignore->MattOG" :) |
| 14:26.14 | Cotulla | u have good mind! :P |
| 14:26.22 | Cotulla | ;D |
| 14:26.23 | Cotulla | :D |
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| 14:26.55 | daddycorp | hi! |
| 14:27.16 | Ceesheim | can't you make a script that automatically ignore all junior members :) |
| 14:27.28 | Ceesheim | and members |
| 14:28.13 | Cotulla | anyway it's stupid to ask me. they won't understand my coders english :P |
| 14:28.41 | Ceesheim | I think nobody understand that :) |
| 14:28.45 | Cotulla | lol htc-linux wiki still in spam |
| 14:28.52 | Cotulla | where dcordes |
| 14:28.56 | Cotulla | ~seen dcordes |
| 14:28.59 | apt | dcordes is currently on #htc-linux #oe, last said: 'bye'. |
| 14:29.56 | MattOG | i need someone with a hd2 running a non sense nand build |
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| 14:46.54 | slovenec | hi everyone :) |
| 14:47.14 | MattOG | lo |
| 14:47.38 | slovenec | gangstas round here too?:P |
| 14:47.50 | MattOG | yo yo |
| 14:47.52 | MattOG | err... no |
| 14:47.54 | MattOG | :D |
| 14:48.07 | slovenec | OG in ur nick |
| 14:48.19 | MattOG | i know i know, Rajko kills me for it too |
| 14:48.26 | MattOG | it's my initials |
| 14:48.37 | slovenec | sorry then |
| 14:48.47 | MattOG | lmao np... i don't take it personally |
| 14:49.08 | slovenec | wow cotulla here :) congrats man on 1.1.3 |
| 14:49.20 | arrrghhh | OG... LOL |
| 14:49.30 | slovenec | keep em comin, and i will donations |
| 14:49.34 | MattOG | OmG |
| 14:49.50 | arrrghhh | slovenec, he doesn't do this for the $$$... |
| 14:49.55 | MattOG | wheres the :rolleyes: smiley when you need it |
| 14:50.37 | slovenec | i know :) but anyways, it's nice to show appreciation someway, right? |
| 14:50.44 | arrrghhh | sure |
| 14:50.52 | arrrghhh | i'm sure he'd accept your donation :P |
| 14:51.00 | arrrghhh | i don't know if they have a war chest like we do. |
| 14:51.06 | slovenec | lol |
| 14:51.08 | arrrghhh | (they being hd2 folk) |
| 14:51.14 | MattOG | searching through forum for a camera bug i found. So far, seen 12 threads about how to activate the HD2's front camera |
| 14:51.43 | slovenec | turn the phone around |
| 14:51.47 | slovenec | :) |
| 14:51.56 | MattOG | lol that's one of my fav responses I've read so far |
| 14:52.01 | MattOG | some people o_O |
| 14:53.03 | slovenec | arrrghhh: i'm hd2 folk too :) |
| 14:53.06 | Cotulla | fron camera? |
| 14:53.21 | slovenec | stupid people |
| 14:53.47 | Cotulla | we can also activate additional ram |
| 14:53.53 | arrrghhh | slovenec, i know. |
| 14:54.07 | MattOG | I hear the headphone port acts as a underside camera.... can't find the setting though |
| 14:54.07 | Cotulla | anyway, nobody will check if ram really present |
| 14:54.25 | Cotulla | just enough to change number returned by kernel from 512 to 768 |
| 14:54.37 | Ceesheim | LOL |
| 14:54.41 | slovenec | haha good one ctll |
| 14:54.52 | Cotulla | at the end how ppl will detect that there 512 not 768 ram? |
| 14:55.39 | slovenec | app that spams mem like in winmo some app i remember |
| 14:55.39 | Cotulla | if they got "out of memory", we can say that it just "bad operating system memory organization and blablabla" |
| 14:56.13 | Cotulla | hm 1 april not very soon yet |
| 14:56.24 | slovenec | Cotulla, do it and sell your kernel on ebay :P |
| 14:56.39 | Ceesheim | lol, cotulla activated 1 GB of rom and 768 mb of ram on all europa hd2's :) |
| 14:56.48 | MattOG | lmao |
| 14:56.54 | slovenec | and front cam haha |
| 14:56.55 | arrrghhh | that's almost as bad as tools selling magldr on craigslist. |
| 14:57.16 | slovenec | atleast author sells it |
| 14:57.32 | arrrghhh | or just selling "Android" on the hd2. |
| 14:57.39 | arrrghhh | selling the putting of Android on the hd2. |
| 14:57.59 | MattOG | if people will pay..... |
| 14:58.05 | MattOG | people charge to put wheels on cars |
| 14:58.34 | arrrghhh | eh i guess. there's stupid people everywhere. |
| 14:58.41 | Cotulla | behind a wheel |
| 14:59.22 | Cotulla | ta-tadam. ta-tutumtum. ttt tttt tttt |
| 15:00.38 | arrrghhh | -35 C today. |
| 15:00.54 | Cotulla | where? |
| 15:00.57 | arrrghhh | denver |
| 15:01.01 | slovenec | anttartica? |
| 15:01.04 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 15:01.09 | arrrghhh | that's with the wind chill. |
| 15:01.32 | arrrghhh | -24 C w/o wind chilll |
| 15:01.41 | fakker | ;o |
| 15:01.46 | MattOG | slovenic running android on nand? |
| 15:01.52 | slovenec | mhm |
| 15:01.57 | MattOG | build? |
| 15:02.05 | slovenec | dhd |
| 15:02.20 | MattOG | grrr |
| 15:02.22 | MattOG | nvm then |
| 15:02.32 | slovenec | why? |
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| 15:03.20 | MattOG | theres a bug in the camera when activating it via either "mms" or "add contact picture" |
| 15:03.32 | MattOG | still get the cloudy camera thingy-ma-jig |
| 15:04.30 | slovenec | lol |
| 15:04.52 | arrrghhh | i don't feel like being too much of a dick, but usually build talk goes in -> chat |
| 15:05.09 | arrrghhh | i don't see any other kernel talk, so it's not a big deal :P |
| 15:05.33 | Cotulla | heh |
| 15:05.37 | MattOG | it was a quick OT |
| 15:05.48 | MattOG | a sneeze almost |
| 15:05.50 | arrrghhh | yea, i'm just warning you. |
| 15:05.54 | MattOG | lol |
| 15:05.57 | arrrghhh | ;_ |
| 15:05.58 | arrrghhh | er |
| 15:05.58 | MattOG | is warned |
| 15:06.01 | arrrghhh | ;) |
| 15:06.21 | Cotulla | Warning: unreferenced variable MattOG detected |
| 15:06.25 | arrrghhh | ACL is makin progress on our nand thanks to Cotulla |
| 15:06.29 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 15:06.40 | Cotulla | yeah, he cheating |
| 15:07.09 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 15:07.11 | fakker | you getting one Cotulla? |
| 15:07.15 | arrrghhh | cheating by following in your footsteps. |
| 15:07.15 | slovenec | will shut up and let devs work their magic :) |
| 15:07.34 | Cotulla | ohh trolls attack us today |
| 15:07.36 | arrrghhh | just like we are cheating from stealing code from vogue. |
| 15:07.37 | RaiderX | hi |
| 15:10.04 | fakker | http://content.modaco.net/littlesnapper/anyoneforsmp.png |
| 15:10.09 | Cotulla | okay I gotta go. happy bricking to everybody! |
| 15:10.12 | Cotulla | :) |
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| 15:10.24 | arrrghhh | haha |
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| 15:39.13 | stickman89 | whats cotulla done now |
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| 17:34.32 | arrrghhh | emwe, how goes it. |
| 17:35.25 | emwe | arrrghhh: fine. and you? |
| 17:35.40 | arrrghhh | another day in paradise. -35 C with the wind chill here ;) |
| 17:35.51 | Willd | arrrghhh: Where are you? :o |
| 17:35.58 | arrrghhh | i had a question for you tho, you have a Topaz yes emwe ? |
| 17:36.03 | arrrghhh | Willd, denver CO |
| 17:36.07 | Willd | Yikes |
| 17:36.08 | arrrghhh | canada sent us some of their air. |
| 17:36.16 | Willd | Sweden's like 0 C |
| 17:36.34 | arrrghhh | on saturday it was 18 C |
| 17:36.40 | emwe | arrrghhh: yes, topa100. |
| 17:37.15 | arrrghhh | emwe, there's a bug i'd like to assign to you if that's ok. i guess it's only on the TOPA - wifi works when you flip it on intiially, but then if you flip it off it'll never turn back on properly. |
| 17:37.38 | arrrghhh | it's not a pressing issue by any means, this guy has just been bugging me non-stop about it. he's pulled logs and all sorts of crap. |
| 17:37.38 | emwe | arrrghhh: is that only topa? |
| 17:37.43 | arrrghhh | emwe, i don't have the issue. |
| 17:37.45 | arrrghhh | on RHOD |
| 17:37.51 | emwe | arrrghhh: you got bcm :) |
| 17:38.02 | emwe | all the other non-rhod should have that issue then as well as they have TI, no? |
| 17:38.20 | arrrghhh | emwe, probably. |
| 17:38.28 | arrrghhh | it does seem to be isolated to the TI WLAN cards. |
| 17:38.36 | emwe | i tried to quickly get wifi working on .35 but it fails to load via wlan_loader. to ignorant in that area to know what's going wrong. |
| 17:38.36 | arrrghhh | i'm not sure which devices have those tho :P |
| 17:38.43 | emwe | i think all but rhod. |
| 17:38.45 | arrrghhh | ah... oh well. |
| 17:39.23 | emwe | wifi hasn't been a pressing issue for me as i have a data plan. but on .35 it's a pita as i can't get data to work. and w/o wifi it's even more a pain. |
| 17:39.45 | arrrghhh | hrm... |
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| 17:40.44 | arrrghhh | yea I told him to just get a data plan :P he said 100mb cost $100. i told him to move :P |
| 17:41.47 | emwe | ouch |
| 17:42.17 | emwe | 1000mb €15 here. and afterwards speed throttle |
| 17:42.27 | arrrghhh | unlimited data for me. |
| 17:42.28 | emwe | never reached that... |
| 17:42.32 | arrrghhh | you don't want to know what i pay. |
| 17:43.00 | emwe | begs arrrghhh to tell |
| 17:43.11 | arrrghhh | lol i don't pay for data, so unlimited data=$0 :P |
| 17:43.19 | emwe | jelous. |
| 17:43.27 | arrrghhh | indeed. i know someone who works for Sprint tho. |
| 17:43.36 | arrrghhh | he's liable for the acct if i don't pay haha. |
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| 17:43.41 | arrrghhh | never signed a contract either... |
| 17:43.56 | stickman89 | nice |
| 17:44.19 | arrrghhh | yea, they're going to have to pry this plan from my cold dead hands. |
| 17:44.38 | arrrghhh | i just hope my buddy never loses his job or quits lol |
| 17:44.44 | arrrghhh | i don't know what'll happen to my line then... |
| 17:44.47 | stickman89 | i fixed up the exlair init scripts in the latest rootfs, i'm still using eclair as Im finding very stable. |
| 17:44.54 | stickman89 | eclair even... |
| 17:44.58 | arrrghhh | eclair? wtf man. |
| 17:45.08 | arrrghhh | we haven't put squat into eclair in ages. |
| 17:45.09 | stickman89 | lol |
| 17:45.22 | stickman89 | and its still more stable then froyo lol |
| 17:45.25 | stickman89 | :D |
| 17:45.52 | emwe | [acl]: meep. perhaps that proc_comm_wait_boot_wait() is of use for nand? http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=62f075ddd13f378fd252be94c77e4f93d12584fb just thought to mention. |
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| 17:51.10 | [acl] | anything can be used in nand :-) |
| 17:51.31 | stickman89 | how's it coming on alc? |
| 17:51.38 | stickman89 | heard you've made big strides |
| 17:51.56 | stickman89 | hhaha alc is your new name btw |
| 17:52.27 | arrrghhh | he's an access contol list man! |
| 17:52.36 | arrrghhh | not a albanian liberation community |
| 17:52.48 | arrrghhh | s/a/an/ |
| 17:52.53 | stickman89 | hahaha |
| 17:52.56 | stickman89 | :D |
| 17:53.03 | stickman89 | :D |
| 17:53.12 | [acl] | :-p |
| 17:53.15 | arrrghhh | all i can think of is access control lists when i see your name [acl] |
| 17:53.23 | [acl] | i am a cisco guy after all |
| 17:53.24 | [acl] | :-p |
| 17:53.28 | arrrghhh | hahaha nice. |
| 17:53.39 | arrrghhh | manages a ton of cisco equip |
| 17:53.53 | [acl] | really? |
| 17:54.01 | [acl] | woa |
| 17:54.04 | arrrghhh | yup. for a bank... |
| 17:54.17 | [acl] | CCIE ? |
| 17:54.23 | arrrghhh | oh no. |
| 17:54.25 | arrrghhh | i'm just a lackey |
| 17:54.27 | [acl] | damn |
| 17:54.40 | [acl] | ic.. |
| 17:54.42 | arrrghhh | i administer call manager, unity, cisco routers & switches |
| 17:55.09 | [acl] | ahh that shit is crazy. i cant touch it at all.. i have to get consultants for that call manager stuff |
| 17:55.09 | arrrghhh | at the NA level, some of it is probably above the NA level. |
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| 17:55.22 | arrrghhh | call manager is nutso, but i'm getting pretty good at it. |
| 17:56.12 | [acl] | emwe: looks interesting. ill need to dive into that bad boy. |
| 17:56.20 | [acl] | stickman89: so how are you guys doing ? |
| 17:58.40 | stickman89 | failing tbh no one knows where anyone is because there not willing to join together. |
| 17:58.59 | stickman89 | last I checked we had framebuffer working but now its borked. |
| 17:59.22 | stickman89 | I will give it some look tonight when the kids give me a brea |
| 17:59.55 | emwe | [acl]: looks like that method is not used in their 2.6.32 branch yet, though. |
| 18:00.01 | emwe | [acl]: what's your status? |
| 18:00.46 | [acl] | emwe: i havent touched .35 since last spoke to you.. too much demand for nand |
| 18:01.19 | [acl] | so far so good.. cotulla has been great help.. the hd2 driver appears to work good. i can write.. i have some yaffs bugs so i need to fix that |
| 18:01.33 | emwe | [acl]: i see. for full nand that is? |
| 18:01.46 | [acl] | yeah |
| 18:02.59 | emwe | getting nuts with no data on .35 here. going to test .27 with that setup... |
| 18:06.00 | [acl] | i need another good snow storm so i can work from home and look into more stuff. |
| 18:06.41 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:06.48 | arrrghhh | i should've taken my emergency wfh today |
| 18:06.49 | arrrghhh | oh well |
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| 18:07.43 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl] come to Iowa. Snow today, we're out a 3pm! hopefully no work tomorrow! |
| 18:07.53 | [acl] | lol |
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| 18:15.42 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, ! |
| 18:15.44 | arrrghhh | what's up man. |
| 18:16.38 | WisTilt2 | howdy. got most of my office business taken care of so now i can play with this stuff the rest of the day. have a short conference call in about 15mins still. |
| 18:19.03 | arrrghhh | cool. |
| 18:19.25 | arrrghhh | i had one piece of negative feedback on the new kernel... one guy said that panel wake seemed to take longer than the previous kernel. |
| 18:19.36 | arrrghhh | i haven't noticed a difference, but i'm tethering usb right now so i can't really test it. |
| 18:19.48 | arrrghhh | i didn't notice any difference last night, i just chalked it up to the additional debugs. |
| 18:20.12 | WisTilt2 | if he reboots he'll get the 5sec sleep again. |
| 18:20.54 | WisTilt2 | now we just wait for someone running this kernel to get sod... |
| 18:21.02 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2 can you PM me the kernel address? I've got a test card ready for whatever. It's running viruscrazy's cam stuff right now so I can clear that out quick if I have to. |
| 18:21.17 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, no panel wake time is longer. |
| 18:21.24 | arrrghhh | not time to sleep... |
| 18:21.34 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, i've posted it |
| 18:21.37 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR the kernel is in arrrghhh's post |
| 18:21.39 | arrrghhh | on xda-devs and ppcg. |
| 18:22.15 | WisTilt2 | panel wake time taking longer to turn on? |
| 18:22.36 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea... only one guy said that tho, and honestly it seems just as fast to me. |
| 18:22.59 | WisTilt2 | that didnt change so maybe he's having the system server prob slowing it down |
| 18:22.59 | arrrghhh | takes up to 2s from sleep state. it's instanteous from non-sleep - for example now when i'm usb tethering :P |
| 18:23.10 | arrrghhh | hrm.... yea i don't think it's anything to worry about. |
| 18:23.32 | WisTilt2 | will be instant when not sleeping since fb already is loaded with data |
| 18:23.55 | arrrghhh | yup |
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| 18:32.27 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: are you seeing any POWER_COLLAPSE_SUSPEND or APPS_SLEEP in dmesg after running in sleep for a long time? |
| 18:32.48 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, let me check my dmesg, it ran all night. |
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| 18:36.31 | NeoMatrixJR | if testing any recommendation on overclock/pm sleep command arguments? |
| 18:36.42 | arrrghhh | doesn't matter |
| 18:36.47 | arrrghhh | sleep_mode=1 i'd say |
| 18:36.50 | arrrghhh | OC doesn't matter hto. |
| 18:36.51 | arrrghhh | tho* |
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| 18:37.14 | NeoMatrixJR | wasn't there something about using sleep_mode=2 if you're OC'sing? |
| 18:37.21 | NeoMatrixJR | s/sing/ing |
| 18:37.22 | arrrghhh | that's old news |
| 18:37.27 | arrrghhh | old old old |
| 18:37.34 | NeoMatrixJR | oh. good to know... <deadpan> |
| 18:37.43 | arrrghhh | bzo committed a fix a while back so we could OC with 1 in sleep_mode. |
| 18:38.05 | NeoMatrixJR | I'm not even sure I remember what the sleep modes are.... |
| 18:38.11 | arrrghhh | 0 1 2 3 |
| 18:38.11 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: also see if you have any "radio-interface" wakelocks in dmesg at all |
| 18:38.24 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, nothing P0WER_COLLAPSE_SUSPEND |
| 18:38.30 | arrrghhh | i see msm_sleep POWER_COLLAPSE |
| 18:38.44 | WisTilt2 | no APPS_SLEEP at all? |
| 18:38.46 | arrrghhh | nothing "radio" in my dmesg. |
| 18:38.55 | NeoMatrixJR | hw3d.force is also outdated now too right? |
| 18:39.06 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, i'm not sure about that one... |
| 18:39.13 | arrrghhh | i still have it set to =1. |
| 18:39.47 | WisTilt2 | conference call, bbl |
| 18:39.54 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i have nothing APPS_SLEEP in my dmesg. |
| 18:39.54 | arrrghhh | np; |
| 18:40.05 | NeoMatrixJR | pmem.extra ? |
| 18:40.13 | arrrghhh | that's deprecated |
| 18:40.13 | arrrghhh | remove it |
| 18:41.22 | NeoMatrixJR | thinks it's time to be cleaning out startup.txt that I've just been adding commands to... |
| 18:41.43 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:41.44 | arrrghhh | perhaps |
| 18:47.22 | NeoMatrixJR | also got: clock_7x00.grp=0xa99 |
| 18:47.49 | arrrghhh | deprecated |
| 18:48.19 | NeoMatrixJR | ok, I think it's clean. |
| 18:48.25 | NeoMatrixJR | thanks arrrghhh |
| 18:51.14 | NeoMatrixJR | stupid system_server... |
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| 18:55.34 | arrrghhh | np |
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| 19:07.06 | MassStash | you there wiz? |
| 19:07.32 | arrrghhh | he's on a conference call |
| 19:07.48 | MassStash | if so, just want to personally thank you for the fn lights the otherday, work perfect |
| 19:07.51 | MassStash | got cha |
| 19:07.59 | MassStash | how's the day treatin ya? |
| 19:08.25 | arrrghhh | eh every single school is closed because it's so cold. |
| 19:08.29 | arrrghhh | too bad i'm no longer in school :P |
| 19:09.08 | MassStash | yea, i plow, so the massive snow continues to be good news for me |
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| 19:09.31 | MassStash | everyone i talk to to hate on me tho for continuously praying for all the snow haha |
| 19:11.18 | MassStash | is the cam commit eta derived upon device support? |
| 19:11.38 | arrrghhh | well since our kernel supports so many devices |
| 19:11.44 | arrrghhh | usually it's best to commit stuff that supports all devices :P |
| 19:15.47 | MassStash | right |
| 19:16.19 | NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh, how long's WT2's kernel supposed to take for device sleep? |
| 19:16.34 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, 5-30s for me. |
| 19:16.39 | arrrghhh | sometimes it's 5, sometimes it's 30. |
| 19:16.46 | arrrghhh | if it's 30, i find if i reboot it goes back to 5. |
| 19:17.09 | F22 | 5-8s for me. |
| 19:17.31 | F22 | afternoon arrrghhh |
| 19:17.36 | arrrghhh | what up |
| 19:17.54 | F22 | just posted a new release of my rhod rootfs |
| 19:18.02 | arrrghhh | i see that |
| 19:18.08 | arrrghhh | i assume you want me to test? :P |
| 19:18.16 | MassStash | everyone else get green for 10-13secs orange for 1-2secs, back to green for 10-13? |
| 19:18.32 | F22 | not really necessary. nothing has changed for 400's. |
| 19:18.37 | MassStash | after initial ~24secs to get 1st green |
| 19:19.01 | arrrghhh | didn't think so :P |
| 19:19.14 | arrrghhh | MassStash, you're not on FRX04 are you |
| 19:19.26 | arrrghhh | people on FroyoX were reporting that issue. can't say anything about that build, other than don't use it. |
| 19:19.40 | F22 | it's a tilt2 fix, there was a missing symbolic link for those who had "physkeyboard=tilt2" previously. their microp .kcm.bin failed to get copied over as a result. |
| 19:20.42 | arrrghhh | i see that. |
| 19:20.53 | arrrghhh | didja see mah new post too? |
| 19:21.14 | F22 | haven't read any other threads yet today |
| 19:21.28 | F22 | which new post? you have several. :P |
| 19:21.33 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 19:21.34 | arrrghhh | my testing thread |
| 19:21.48 | arrrghhh | i'd like to get as large a sample as possible |
| 19:21.57 | arrrghhh | mankinekeo or whatever wanted me to create a new thread... |
| 19:22.00 | arrrghhh | i might, not sure. |
| 19:22.08 | NeoMatrixJR | been over 4 minutes. no green led :( |
| 19:22.38 | arrrghhh | GPS enabled? |
| 19:22.55 | F22 | hmm...i had an issue with it taking 3 presses of the power button to wake my phone up last night. haven't really played with it today yet. |
| 19:23.14 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 19:23.16 | arrrghhh | i read that |
| 19:23.18 | arrrghhh | not sure what's up with that |
| 19:23.27 | arrrghhh | new kernel doesn't really have much in the way of fixes, just more debugging stuff |
| 19:23.34 | NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh: yeah...that would probably be it. I use maps to fix the system_server issue. Can you do that w/o GPS being on? |
| 19:23.38 | F22 | and that wasn't every time. but it did happen to me twice last night. |
| 19:23.54 | F22 | both times, on the 3rd press it came up. |
| 19:24.03 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, just call vm. fixes it every time. |
| 19:24.24 | arrrghhh | weird... F22 not sure dude. run the new kernel, get us logs if it happens :P |
| 19:24.44 | F22 | will do |
| 19:25.19 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 19:27.51 | arrrghhh | lunchtime. bbl folks. |
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| 19:46.28 | WisTilt2 | phh: i heard you worked on ril? do you know where the original code came from? also, have you ever done any debugging in binder.c? |
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| 19:49.29 | WisTilt2 | F22: rootfs is going to take some getting used to but looks good! |
| 19:50.48 | WisTilt2 | emwe: you familiar with camro's battery stuff at all? |
| 19:51.13 | emwe | WisTilt2: hey and no. never dove into it. |
| 19:51.41 | F22 | WisTilt2: thanks. there was a tilt2 bug in the release last night for those with "physkeyboard=tilt2". Hopefully you either modified that line with one of the other options, or you downloaded after i released the fix. |
| 19:51.42 | WisTilt2 | ok. seems it is causing the division by zero in kernel at times |
| 19:52.13 | WisTilt2 | F22: i just dl'd it a few mins ago |
| 19:52.31 | F22 | then you have the fixed version. :D |
| 19:53.28 | WisTilt2 | emwe: do you have the panel registers for topaz by chance? |
| 19:53.50 | stickman89 | oooh you want a panel registers too ;) |
| 19:53.55 | emwe | WisTilt2: panel registers? |
| 19:54.00 | WisTilt2 | lcd panel |
| 19:54.01 | emwe | WisTilt2: you mean init seqs? |
| 19:54.26 | WisTilt2 | i see the reg's in the init, just not documented as to which is which |
| 19:54.36 | stickman89 | fixup our panel collapse if you like hehe :D |
| 19:55.01 | WisTilt2 | emwe: i need to send you my rhod panel collapse if you want to code it for topa |
| 19:55.15 | emwe | WisTilt2: didn't i document them recently? |
| 19:55.21 | WisTilt2 | unless i can get it committed today:) |
| 19:55.51 | WisTilt2 | im only looking at the source, not all documented |
| 19:56.27 | emwe | well, all shoudl at leat have the more descriptive name from the novatek doc |
| 19:56.39 | emwe | what's not documented? |
| 19:58.10 | WisTilt2 | nm, brain fart here:) i see all the gma segments are grouped together with one label on each. looks similar to rhod panel, is topaz same novatek eid as rhod? |
| 19:59.31 | emwe | eid=epson imaging device? sorry, am a bit abbreviation stubborn today... |
| 19:59.37 | WisTilt2 | yes |
| 19:59.47 | emwe | i have no idea ;) |
| 20:00.01 | emwe | thought it was auo. |
| 20:00.08 | emwe | at least wiki says so iirc |
| 20:00.19 | WisTilt2 | do you guys have any problems bringing up the panel from sleep at all? |
| 20:00.50 | emwe | yes. more frequently in the recent weeks/months so tosay |
| 20:00.55 | emwe | on .35 even a bit more |
| 20:01.11 | emwe | the wake is not perfect and sometimes (more on .35) one has to touch panel to show picture |
| 20:01.28 | WisTilt2 | timing problem during unblank is the problem |
| 20:01.44 | emwe | but i am rather less motivated to dig into that until .35 is a bit farther ;) |
| 20:01.53 | emwe | i am touching it locally now and then. |
| 20:02.03 | emwe | i dropped some waits on init and deinit |
| 20:02.18 | emwe | didn't seem to make a difference |
| 20:02.26 | emwe | the where placed every 20 items. |
| 20:02.55 | emwe | perhaps they stemed from microp/i2c and are not required on direct mddi communication |
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| 20:03.06 | emwe | just a guess |
| 20:03.26 | WisTilt2 | we fixed that problem for the most part on rhod but did it with timing changes for work around the unblank timing for now. |
| 20:03.54 | emwe | i am likely to evaluate what you came up with and just take over. |
| 20:04.05 | emwe | there's not much diversity in panel-behaviour accross users. |
| 20:04.15 | emwe | so if it works for me, it's likely working for the others as well then |
| 20:04.31 | emwe | we also don't suffer from different panel manufacturers or so iirc |
| 20:04.38 | emwe | (needing different init) |
| 20:05.26 | emwe | so much to check... |
| 20:05.42 | WisTilt2 | im working on the system server problem right now but ill try and commit the panel collapse later today. its at a point that it can go into the mainstream i think. |
| 20:06.20 | emwe | looking forward to it so i can adopt if it works out fine |
| 20:06.22 | WisTilt2 | looking at topaz code i'd say you guys are already seeing decent battery life in sleep? |
| 20:07.11 | emwe | yap |
| 20:07.17 | emwe | well... still not as winmo |
| 20:07.52 | emwe | i have ~20 percent from 0am to 6:30 with 3g and 10min activesync cicles in WinCE. (<<< WINCE) |
| 20:08.00 | emwe | i think in android 30 |
| 20:08.03 | emwe | from a full charge |
| 20:08.20 | emwe | but our battery is smaller. 1100 |
| 20:08.25 | emwe | markinus did all that panel stuff |
| 20:08.33 | emwe | i just sneaked in a bit ;) |
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| 20:24.17 | gauner1986 | hey dan |
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| 20:24.57 | stickman89 | blackstone are using eid=epson also :0 |
| 20:25.03 | stickman89 | :) even... |
| 20:25.09 | [acl] | praying for a snow day :-) |
| 20:25.15 | stickman89 | snow |
| 20:25.16 | stickman89 | now |
| 20:25.18 | stickman89 | never |
| 20:25.23 | gauner1986 | nah, costs me time |
| 20:25.25 | gauner1986 | that sucks |
| 20:27.09 | MassStash | all roomates are servers, and all have been called off tonight and tomorrow haha |
| 20:27.14 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: did jonpry fall off the face of the earth? miss talking to that guy. |
| 20:27.42 | [acl] | WisTilt2: not at all.. he is on the dev list. he is planning his return |
| 20:28.08 | stickman89 | you guys pulling panel registers from haret console? |
| 20:28.43 | [acl] | WisTilt2: jonpry will most likely return for .35.. once cdma and gsm splits.. |
| 20:29.13 | [acl] | stickman89: nahh we have docs for that... and we pulled them from the dll .. haret is just to verify but the timming is hard to get off haret |
| 20:31.29 | stickman89 | specifically which dll you pulling the relevant info from? |
| 20:31.53 | stickman89 | I'll gather up as much as is required |
| 20:31.59 | [acl] | disptools.dll |
| 20:32.16 | stickman89 | righo |
| 20:34.05 | stickman89 | got it |
| 20:34.13 | stickman89 | the dll |
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| 20:36.32 | stickman89 | ok got the dll opened in dependency walker |
| 20:36.58 | [acl] | nahh its all in the dll itself |
| 20:37.15 | stickman89 | how you extracting that info? |
| 20:37.21 | [acl] | disasemble how else |
| 20:37.26 | arrrghhh | easy |
| 20:37.27 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 20:37.41 | [acl] | stickman89: but isnt black all done? should be same as raph right? |
| 20:37.56 | stickman89 | yeah thats what i though |
| 20:38.05 | stickman89 | hang on topaz? |
| 20:38.27 | stickman89 | eid=epson panel collapse done WizTilt2? |
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| 20:40.10 | arrrghhh | stickman89, eid panel collapse is done. |
| 20:40.14 | arrrghhh | that's what most RHOD's use. |
| 20:40.30 | arrrghhh | AUO panel collapse hasn't been looked at yet AFAIK |
| 20:40.41 | stickman89 | ok cool any eta on when it will be committed? |
| 20:40.47 | arrrghhh | when it's done :P |
| 20:41.03 | arrrghhh | panel collapse is done AFAIK |
| 20:41.10 | arrrghhh | panel init is proving to be interesting. |
| 20:41.14 | stickman89 | but you said its done :( ahhhhhhhhhhhhh so confused |
| 20:41.21 | arrrghhh | but WisTilt2 has ironed out most of the bugs. |
| 20:41.21 | stickman89 | lol |
| 20:41.28 | arrrghhh | stickman89, AUO panel not done, no commit. |
| 20:41.28 | stickman89 | ahh ok |
| 20:41.32 | arrrghhh | i assume |
| 20:41.52 | stickman89 | not even a test kernel? |
| 20:42.26 | arrrghhh | huh? |
| 20:42.36 | arrrghhh | i've posted his test kernels for more than a month now. |
| 20:42.44 | arrrghhh | been updating them almost daily... |
| 20:42.46 | stickman89 | yeah but there for Rhod |
| 20:42.55 | stickman89 | you forget dont ya |
| 20:42.55 | arrrghhh | cuz that's all WisTilt2 has enabled. |
| 20:43.01 | arrrghhh | no... i don't. do you? :P |
| 20:43.22 | arrrghhh | he only has a RHOD mate, what do you expect? |
| 20:43.53 | stickman89 | oh right my bad |
| 20:44.13 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 20:44.20 | arrrghhh | F22, looking at the logs... do you sleep? lol |
| 20:44.32 | stickman89 | who me |
| 20:44.32 | stickman89 | haha |
| 20:44.33 | stickman89 | never |
| 20:44.39 | arrrghhh | are you F22 ? :P |
| 20:45.13 | stickman89 | sorry didnt see the commar after F22 |
| 20:45.26 | stickman89 | thought you said he was looking at the logs |
| 20:45.27 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, still looking at the logs. AFAIK RIL code was ported from Vogue. |
| 20:45.37 | arrrghhh | nope :P |
| 20:46.56 | stickman89 | im just gonna leave i think, losing it lol |
| 20:47.24 | [acl] | dood come back.. i want that dll |
| 20:47.26 | [acl] | fawk |
| 20:47.27 | [acl] | too late |
| 20:48.26 | [acl] | arrrghhh: do know where i can download all these dlls? its as if everyone has em but me |
| 20:48.39 | arrrghhh | what dlls? |
| 20:48.45 | arrrghhh | i think people are pulling them from ROMs no? |
| 20:49.28 | arrrghhh | [acl], CDMA and GSM are going to split? |
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| 20:49.37 | [acl] | have to |
| 20:49.43 | [acl] | they are different devices |
| 20:49.46 | arrrghhh | 'bout time :P |
| 20:49.53 | [acl] | :-D |
| 20:49.53 | arrrghhh | i see a bunch of weird GSM calls in my RIL logs. |
| 20:50.09 | [acl] | damn ril |
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| 20:50.17 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 20:50.22 | arrrghhh | i place my blame on randomblame tho. |
| 20:50.32 | arrrghhh | i *assume* that's what he's for. |
| 20:50.32 | randomblame | you should |
| 20:50.35 | arrrghhh | lol :P |
| 20:50.39 | [acl] | lol |
| 20:50.50 | randomblame | damn virtual box doesn't like my mouse |
| 20:51.04 | emwe | hm, whome to blame? |
| 20:51.11 | emwe | ;) |
| 20:51.14 | [acl] | arrrghhh: but only in .35 will the cdma mtype will be used. not .27.. |
| 20:51.14 | arrrghhh | randomblame, vbox guest additions ftw? |
| 20:51.21 | randomblame | for the loose |
| 20:51.30 | arrrghhh | [acl], makes sense. it seems we're going to be planning board files much better for .35 as well. |
| 20:51.36 | arrrghhh | perhaps that's all part of it. |
| 20:52.37 | randomblame | so any insights into the sod issue yet? |
| 20:52.52 | arrrghhh | nobody's gotten an SoD on the new kernel i posted... |
| 20:52.59 | arrrghhh | or at least no one's spoken up about it. |
| 20:53.03 | randomblame | my phone woke up properly this morning |
| 20:53.07 | arrrghhh | ...randomblame... |
| 20:53.09 | arrrghhh | damnit. |
| 20:53.22 | [acl] | wtf is sod ? |
| 20:53.36 | arrrghhh | sleep of death |
| 20:53.50 | arrrghhh | phone refuses to wake, can't call it, can't adb, no buttons wake it... |
| 20:53.51 | randomblame | it's what old people and rhods do |
| 20:53.55 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:54.02 | arrrghhh | i shouldn't laugh at that, but damn. |
| 20:54.04 | [acl] | jeez really |
| 20:54.20 | [acl] | poor bastards |
| 20:54.51 | randomblame | hehe |
| 20:54.51 | [acl] | havent seen that yet |
| 20:55.02 | arrrghhh | really? |
| 20:55.10 | arrrghhh | wtf is your secret, i've had it a ton. |
| 20:55.14 | arrrghhh | NAND is the answer. |
| 20:55.15 | [acl] | nand |
| 20:55.18 | arrrghhh | bastage. |
| 20:55.21 | randomblame | gotta try f22s new rootfs now that the tilt2 bugs are fixed |
| 20:55.33 | randomblame | yeah nand - can't wait till that's all sorted out |
| 20:55.50 | randomblame | hopefully that'll fix the sd card corruption issues too |
| 20:55.53 | [acl] | arrrghhh: i haent played with the haret one in a while.. i have 2 rhods now so i can test as well |
| 20:56.02 | arrrghhh | yea, hurry it up [acl]. i want to brick mah phone. |
| 20:56.10 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 20:56.19 | [acl] | arrrghhh: i havent bricked yet . im happy bout that |
| 20:56.21 | [acl] | :-) |
| 20:56.23 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 20:57.26 | [acl] | i think alot of peolpe love haret tho. they love the safety or being able to go back |
| 20:58.05 | rpierce99 | i couldn't run nand, company phone and all |
| 20:58.11 | [acl] | jeez |
| 20:58.57 | randomblame | @acl yeah some of us are more comfortable that way |
| 20:59.16 | [acl] | yeah understanable |
| 20:59.18 | randomblame | the best implementation would be to put a light winmo rom and android in nand and dual boot |
| 20:59.30 | randomblame | doubt it's possible |
| 21:00.58 | arrrghhh | gen.y |
| 21:01.00 | [acl] | i dunno.. ima go all nand tho.. nand to the bone.. |
| 21:01.05 | arrrghhh | boots android as quickly as possible. |
| 21:01.14 | randomblame | gen.y just calls haret tho from sd right |
| 21:01.22 | arrrghhh | [acl], if NAND is stable and safe like flashing new WinMo ROMs is today, i'll jump ship in a heartbeat. |
| 21:01.30 | arrrghhh | heck, i was testing a lot of your NAND stuff. |
| 21:01.52 | arrrghhh | randomblame, yea, that's what we're talking about right...? safety of haret? |
| 21:01.55 | [acl] | arrrghhh: soon bro.. soon .. the bitches will be all over us.. cuz of nand |
| 21:01.59 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 21:02.03 | [acl] | :-p |
| 21:02.17 | arrrghhh | "the bitches will be all over us"... classic bro, classic. |
| 21:02.19 | randomblame | haha kernels don't get you bitches NAND KERNELS get you bitches |
| 21:02.26 | arrrghhh | ha, right. |
| 21:03.02 | randomblame | too bad we can't flash our bitches nand |
| 21:03.07 | randomblame | make a few tweaks |
| 21:03.12 | randomblame | correct a few bugs |
| 21:03.32 | rpierce99 | i'd be cool with some userland tweaks |
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| 21:05.46 | randomblame | that's weird |
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| 21:05.52 | randomblame | kernel just crashed during init |
| 21:06.26 | randomblame | just after msm_fb kicked in |
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| 21:09.38 | randomblame | ok it did it again |
| 21:09.44 | randomblame | I'm blaming f22 on this crap |
| 21:10.24 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:10.29 | arrrghhh | that blame isn't so random. |
| 21:10.42 | randomblame | srsly I just put his *fixed* rootfs on there |
| 21:11.14 | randomblame | lol |
| 21:11.16 | arrrghhh | "fixed" |
| 21:11.23 | randomblame | " " |
| 21:15.07 | randomblame | ok I recopied it to the directory now it's booting |
| 21:15.14 | randomblame | he's off the hook for now |
| 21:17.04 | arrrghhh | i'm sure he's relieved |
| 21:17.57 | randomblame | yeah he was sweating bullets for a minute though |
| 21:18.06 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:18.27 | randomblame | you don't want randomblame mad at you that mofo is CRaaazy |
| 21:19.31 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:19.33 | arrrghhh | ok |
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| 21:22.03 | randomblame | lol he was saying tilt2 doens't have an envelope button |
| 21:22.06 | randomblame | but we do... |
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| 21:22.35 | arrrghhh | what F22 says goes. |
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| 21:22.50 | arrrghhh | if he says you don't have an envelope button, you better gouge that thing out of there. |
| 21:22.55 | randomblame | *sigh* I guess I'll scratch it off |
| 21:23.04 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:26.10 | arrrghhh | i've already dremmel'd in the new keymap to my keyboard. |
| 21:29.04 | randomblame | I hope you're joking |
| 21:29.32 | arrrghhh | why? |
| 21:29.45 | F22 | randomblame: perhaps i should clarify that. you don't have a dedicated envelope button. |
| 21:29.51 | randomblame | ah |
| 21:29.57 | randomblame | I see |
| 21:30.06 | randomblame | now you have to change the keymaps though |
| 21:30.11 | F22 | randomblame: i can't make that button search/short cuts without your losing the comma. |
| 21:30.20 | randomblame | because arrrrghh dremeled his phone |
| 21:30.20 | arrrghhh | who needs comma |
| 21:30.21 | arrrghhh | commies |
| 21:30.38 | arrrghhh | keymap change would suck. |
| 21:30.55 | randomblame | I'll bet the comma is one of the least used buttons on this phone |
| 21:31.23 | Willd | Geesch |
| 21:31.34 | arrrghhh | i never used SMS button |
| 21:31.34 | Willd | Poor people with proper grammar :p |
| 21:31.39 | randomblame | most people don't bother to spell properly let alone punctuate on a handheld |
| 21:31.42 | arrrghhh | i use comma all the time |
| 21:31.45 | arrrghhh | is a commie |
| 21:31.48 | F22 | lol |
| 21:31.48 | randomblame | eeek |
| 21:33.10 | Willd | randomblame: Stop generalizing :( |
| 21:35.56 | arrrghhh | Willd, on that last_kmsg. |
| 21:36.07 | arrrghhh | it's definitely in the libc.so, but you'll have to talk to viruscrazy about a patch. |
| 21:36.09 | arrrghhh | it's his code... |
| 21:36.11 | Willd | Oh |
| 21:36.15 | Willd | Who is he? :p |
| 21:36.20 | arrrghhh | plus, it doesn't seem likely that it'll get committed. |
| 21:36.24 | arrrghhh | what phone do you have? |
| 21:36.29 | arrrghhh | he's a dev on our team... |
| 21:36.35 | Willd | Heh |
| 21:36.35 | arrrghhh | been workin on cam for a long time now. |
| 21:36.49 | Willd | I have the first Samsung Galaxy |
| 21:36.58 | Willd | Came here on a wild goose chase :p |
| 21:37.23 | arrrghhh | wtf are you doing in #htc-linux? |
| 21:37.37 | Willd | I needed general advice on msm7201a :) |
| 21:38.05 | arrrghhh | SGS has that proc...? |
| 21:38.15 | randomblame | I didn't think it did |
| 21:38.18 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 21:38.21 | arrrghhh | original galaxy |
| 21:38.26 | Willd | :p |
| 21:38.27 | arrrghhh | not S... not sure what proc that has. |
| 21:38.37 | Willd | Some samsung shit :p |
| 21:38.44 | sado1 | "hummingbird" |
| 21:38.45 | arrrghhh | ha |
| 21:38.49 | arrrghhh | still not sure how you ended up here... |
| 21:38.58 | arrrghhh | sado1, original galaxy...? lol no. |
| 21:39.04 | sado1 | nope, S |
| 21:39.35 | Willd | arrrghhh: There's kernel knowledge regarding that proc in here |
| 21:39.46 | randomblame | yeah there is |
| 21:39.47 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 21:40.09 | randomblame | do you have the source to the original kernel? |
| 21:40.17 | Willd | For our phone, yeah |
| 21:40.19 | Willd | It sucks |
| 21:40.31 | randomblame | what kernel is it? |
| 21:40.35 | Willd | .29 |
| 21:40.38 | randomblame | ah |
| 21:40.57 | randomblame | and what are you trying to do? |
| 21:41.15 | arrrghhh | make bacon with mah phone |
| 21:41.40 | Willd | randomblame: I'm specifically trying to fix the odd memory mappings |
| 21:41.41 | randomblame | arrrghhh - I saw a dummy file for that somewhere in drivers |
| 21:41.46 | randomblame | get on it |
| 21:41.52 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:42.14 | randomblame | willd - good luck |
| 21:42.19 | Willd | randomblame: :) |
| 21:42.35 | Willd | randomblame: I'm gonna need it :( |
| 21:42.38 | randomblame | that held my incite port back so far the thing was obsolete before I got it working |
| 21:42.48 | Willd | Oh? |
| 21:43.17 | randomblame | and then when that was solved we could never find documentation on the panel so that was the end of it |
| 21:43.22 | randomblame | but you have working drivers |
| 21:43.27 | randomblame | so you're in better shape |
| 21:43.51 | Willd | Though lacking in knowledge.. |
| 21:45.21 | randomblame | why are the memory mappings causing trouble? |
| 21:45.40 | Willd | Because our EBI is just 128MB |
| 21:46.04 | Willd | Not really causing trouble though, they're just a tad unefficient |
| 21:46.11 | Willd | We have something like 94MB usable |
| 21:46.24 | randomblame | shitty |
| 21:46.58 | randomblame | I'm not sure it's worth the effort |
| 21:47.01 | Willd | And I can't easily move things around, seeing as samsung made adsp take 11MB and camera 13 |
| 21:47.16 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:47.40 | randomblame | you could work for months to get an extra 6mb of usable memory |
| 21:48.16 | Willd | randomblame: Very true, but they are needed :) |
| 21:48.35 | randomblame | kill the camera |
| 21:48.39 | randomblame | steal it's 13 |
| 21:48.53 | Willd | Users would hate me for it :) |
| 21:49.03 | randomblame | meh |
| 21:49.13 | Willd | And seeing as another dev spend quite some time, getting it working.. |
| 21:49.15 | randomblame | it's either that or they can run donut |
| 21:49.27 | randomblame | lol |
| 21:50.07 | Willd | It's prolly easier starting over from scratch, from say .35 :) |
| 21:50.47 | randomblame | probably |
| 21:50.52 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 21:50.53 | arrrghhh | enjoy |
| 21:50.55 | arrrghhh | we're moving to that now. |
| 21:51.24 | Willd | OpenEtna did, worked out quite good it seems |
| 21:51.24 | randomblame | yeah it's not just a straight copy paste insert mtypes here sort of thing |
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| 21:53.20 | F22 | arrrghhh: what does viruscrazy's libc gain you that you can't get from SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG* in /data/system/dropbox? |
| 21:53.31 | randomblame | willd what screen does your galaxy use |
| 21:53.37 | arrrghhh | F22, i wasn't aware of that |
| 21:53.46 | arrrghhh | so after a reboot you can pull dmesg from that...? |
| 21:54.15 | Willd | randomblame: qvga |
| 21:54.32 | arrrghhh | i've never even looked in thar. |
| 21:54.52 | randomblame | I meant what brand/model |
| 21:54.52 | randomblame | it's not ilitek is it? |
| 21:55.04 | Willd | Oh.. |
| 21:55.21 | F22 | arrrghhh: take a look.. ;) |
| 21:55.26 | arrrghhh | i am |
| 21:55.33 | arrrghhh | i guess i'll have to dump these and look at them. |
| 21:55.38 | Willd | I don't think so atleast |
| 21:55.40 | arrrghhh | why was viruscrazy using that libc hack then? |
| 21:56.09 | arrrghhh | droid explorer is probably going to boot me off |
| 21:56.11 | Willd | randomblame: I'm not sure, why? |
| 21:56.18 | F22 | dunno. as much as i've wanted to, i haven't been following his thread regularly so i've missed most of the discussion in there. |
| 21:57.12 | arrrghhh | fawk |
| 21:57.23 | arrrghhh | F22, i love you, and kinda hate you right now. |
| 21:57.28 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 21:57.55 | F22 | lol |
| 21:57.59 | rpierce99 | hmmm there seems to be an archive here, I wonder if I can pull my sod from yesterday when I didn't have the libc mounted |
| 21:58.13 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, i'm betting so. i really had no idea of that golden nugget. |
| 21:58.17 | arrrghhh | F22, just curious how did you find that? |
| 21:58.47 | F22 | i googled for it maybe a week or two ago. :P |
| 21:58.49 | arrrghhh | goes back days it seems. |
| 21:58.53 | arrrghhh | damnit. |
| 21:59.09 | arrrghhh | i've got last_kmsg logs back to 1/30. insanity. |
| 21:59.15 | arrrghhh | well... time to modify my posts. |
| 21:59.18 | F22 | great isn't it. :D |
| 21:59.20 | arrrghhh | point out that i'm a tool |
| 21:59.21 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:59.25 | randomblame | willd- I'm just still looking for ilitek source |
| 21:59.29 | arrrghhh | yea it is great. why couldn't you have piped up before!?? : |
| 21:59.29 | Willd | Oh |
| 21:59.31 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 21:59.48 | Willd | arrrghhh: What did I miss now? :o |
| 21:59.55 | arrrghhh | Willd, i'm dumb. |
| 21:59.56 | arrrghhh | just that |
| 21:59.59 | Willd | arrrghhh: Do tell? ;) |
| 22:00.06 | F22 | i meant to the other day, but you weren't on at the time when i read the log and i was hip deep in my own stuff. |
| 22:00.08 | arrrghhh | you can find the last_kmsg logs in /data/system/dropbox/ evidently. |
| 22:00.16 | arrrghhh | F22, haha no worries. just kickin myself. |
| 22:00.20 | arrrghhh | over, and over again. |
| 22:00.41 | randomblame | wait it saves those logs? for how long? |
| 22:01.07 | arrrghhh | randomblame, seems like a few days at least. |
| 22:01.08 | arrrghhh | mine goes back to 1/30. |
| 22:01.17 | randomblame | lol |
| 22:01.19 | F22 | i <3 google :D |
| 22:01.20 | randomblame | that's good stuff |
| 22:01.25 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 22:01.29 | arrrghhh | F22, never even occurred tome. |
| 22:01.31 | arrrghhh | *to me. |
| 22:01.38 | arrrghhh | evidently didn't occur to viruscrazy either, lol. |
| 22:02.24 | randomblame | I'm gonna go get some rockstars and nachos be back in a bit |
| 22:02.38 | arrrghhh | lunch of champions. |
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| 22:03.27 | F22 | i figured that's the sort of thing that someone somewhere had already solved very early in development. i'd have been very surprised if it hadn't been. |
| 22:04.49 | arrrghhh | yea, and i honestly didn't do any searching since i knew how viruscrazy was doing it |
| 22:04.58 | arrrghhh | i assumed that was the best way... i guess i shouldn't have assumed that. |
| 22:05.14 | arrrghhh | he was having everyone modify their system images before i showed him the froyo.user.conf method. d'oh. |
| 22:05.20 | F22 | viruscrazy is a pretty sharp guy. that's understandable. but nobody is all-knowing. |
| 22:05.25 | arrrghhh | indeed. |
| 22:05.44 | arrrghhh | devs can get lost in the complicated stuff and miss the easy things sometimes. |
| 22:06.01 | arrrghhh | i've done that at work before, where a suggestion from some rep in 24hr call center gave me a suggestion that worked... i felt dumb. |
| 22:06.17 | arrrghhh | a suggestion gave me a suggestion... yea. |
| 22:06.24 | F22 | lol |
| 22:06.56 | arrrghhh | damnit. |
| 22:07.06 | arrrghhh | i almost don't want to rewrite my post. why did you have to show me this F22 !?!? crap. |
| 22:07.10 | arrrghhh | i guess i have to. |
| 22:08.25 | WisTilt2 | Anyone want to go to system_server's funeral?? |
| 22:08.30 | rpierce99 | yes |
| 22:08.31 | arrrghhh | OoOOO |
| 22:08.32 | arrrghhh | pelase |
| 22:08.35 | arrrghhh | please* |
| 22:08.39 | WisTilt2 | found the bugger |
| 22:08.43 | arrrghhh | do tell |
| 22:08.55 | rpierce99 | dances |
| 22:09.24 | rpierce99 | screw my last_kmsg search, this is better |
| 22:09.31 | F22 | cheers WisTilt2! |
| 22:10.04 | WisTilt2 | complex, but basically during network registering there is a transaction buffer not being allocated due to not enough memory available. memory is there but certain condition caused it to think there is no memory to allocate. |
| 22:10.34 | WisTilt2 | making a call resets so it tries again and works |
| 22:11.07 | WisTilt2 | there's more to it than that but basically thats the logic in it. |
| 22:11.13 | Willd | F22: So, where'd this come from? :p |
| 22:11.27 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, awesome news. what is it going to take to fix it? |
| 22:12.22 | F22 | Willd: where'd what come from? |
| 22:12.30 | Willd | F22: /data/system/dropbox |
| 22:12.37 | arrrghhh | google |
| 22:12.38 | arrrghhh | lord google |
| 22:13.44 | Willd | Oh.. |
| 22:13.46 | Willd | I see |
| 22:13.47 | F22 | Willd: I googled for it a week or two ago. I knew there had to be away to access old klogs. |
| 22:14.06 | WisTilt2 | now i just need to detect this condition when it happens and make it realloc automatically. dont know why this came about months ago, unless it was always there just not as prevalent. |
| 22:14.06 | Willd | F22: But only if ramconsole is working |
| 22:14.19 | Willd | Or wait.. |
| 22:14.47 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i have a feeling it was always there.. just for some reason it wasn't as bad. |
| 22:15.21 | WisTilt2 | with all the patches over the past few months no telling which one or ones made it worse |
| 22:15.40 | Willd | arrrghhh: My device still lacks ram console \o/ |
| 22:15.46 | arrrghhh | i'd say disabling JIT really exacerbated it. |
| 22:15.49 | F22 | there are a lot of reports that frx03 made it significantly worse. |
| 22:15.54 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 22:16.00 | WisTilt2 | note also, without a sim card that allocation still gets called, thats why people without sims still see it. |
| 22:16.30 | WisTilt2 | hmm, when did jit get disabled? |
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| 22:16.37 | arrrghhh | FRX03 :P |
| 22:16.38 | F22 | frx03 |
| 22:16.40 | F22 | lol |
| 22:16.46 | WisTilt2 | month i mean |
| 22:16.49 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 22:16.53 | F22 | 11/22 or so i think |
| 22:16.56 | arrrghhh | uhm.... end of october i want to say? |
| 22:16.58 | F22 | late nov |
| 22:17.01 | arrrghhh | yea maybe it was late nov. |
| 22:17.04 | arrrghhh | no you're right. |
| 22:17.09 | arrrghhh | it was the end of nov. |
| 22:17.16 | arrrghhh | cuz that's right when i made that bundle for the RAPH folk. |
| 22:18.20 | WisTilt2 | system server was definitely showing up in october though. i remember because thats when i was working on autobl and thought my code had caused it, which it didnt. so what else came about sometime in oct? |
| 22:18.34 | arrrghhh | tons of battery commits |
| 22:18.35 | arrrghhh | in OCT |
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| 22:19.12 | WisTilt2 | yeah. and last night i got the division by zero in kernel again and i traced it directly to battery code causing it. |
| 22:19.24 | arrrghhh | ...not surprised. |
| 22:19.32 | arrrghhh | camro did some great work, but he got cut short there. |
| 22:19.45 | arrrghhh | and i don't think anyone has looked at his battery code since he fell off. |
| 22:20.10 | WisTilt2 | in any case, i can fix system server now but really need to trace back the actual cause and fix that. |
| 22:20.18 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 22:20.25 | arrrghhh | yea i'd prefer to fix the root cause, rather than the symptom. |
| 22:20.34 | F22 | nov. 19th was when frx03 was released. we certainly had the problem before then. it just wasn't as bad. |
| 22:20.42 | arrrghhh | +1 |
| 22:20.47 | WisTilt2 | me too but at least we'll have a kernel that doesnt kill the device every boot until then:) |
| 22:20.57 | arrrghhh | :D so the fix is in the kernel? |
| 22:21.03 | WisTilt2 | yep |
| 22:21.09 | arrrghhh | coolio |
| 22:22.03 | F22 | sounds good to me |
| 22:22.12 | WisTilt2 | should have it coded by this evening. i have to leave here in about an hour but will be working on it from home tonight. |
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| 22:22.33 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, awesome dude, thanks again for tracing that down. fantastic news. |
| 22:22.40 | arrrghhh | i'll still put out the feelers on the SoD issue |
| 22:22.47 | WisTilt2 | now if we can only get some logs of sod?? |
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| 22:22.50 | arrrghhh | i revised my post, pointing out that i'm an idiot :P |
| 22:22.59 | WisTilt2 | how so? |
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| 22:23.08 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea F22 pointed out i'm stoopid. don't need to mount that libc.so file to get that last_kmsg. |
| 22:23.12 | randomblame | wish guest additions would allow me to scroll up |
| 22:23.20 | arrrghhh | android is already logging and compressing these to /data/system/dropbox/ |
| 22:23.39 | arrrghhh | i looked, i have last_kmsg's back to 1/30. |
| 22:23.40 | WisTilt2 | so kmsg is preserved all along? |
| 22:23.44 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 22:23.47 | F22 | yup |
| 22:23.57 | arrrghhh | updated all mah posts. |
| 22:24.00 | arrrghhh | thanking you and cursing me :P |
| 22:24.12 | WisTilt2 | damn. well we need one with sod condition still to capture some of my verbose outputs. |
| 22:24.22 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, agreed. |
| 22:24.23 | F22 | don't be too hard on yourself, nobody knows everything. that's why we have this channel. |
| 22:24.25 | arrrghhh | haven't had anyone yet... |
| 22:24.39 | arrrghhh | F22, eh it's no big deal. it's how i learn ;) |
| 22:24.49 | randomblame | so the sleep of death issue has been tracked down? |
| 22:24.53 | arrrghhh | nope |
| 22:24.55 | arrrghhh | system_server |
| 22:25.01 | randomblame | ooooh |
| 22:25.02 | F22 | by being self-depreciating? ok, lol. |
| 22:25.27 | F22 | stops getting in the way of arrrghhh beating himself up. :P |
| 22:25.29 | arrrghhh | eh, i do that a lot. |
| 22:25.31 | WisTilt2 | on another note, i think i have another power saving kernel change, ill let you know after my phone stays in sleep an hour. saved another 5ma or so in sleep. |
| 22:25.32 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:25.44 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, you're a madman. |
| 22:26.02 | WisTilt2 | yeah been having fun in PM, which needs mucho work |
| 22:26.03 | arrrghhh | and we <3 you :D |
| 22:26.08 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 22:26.42 | WisTilt2 | my phones been in sleep for 45mins and still at 89% where it started |
| 22:26.52 | Willd | WisTilt2: Are these changes device specific? |
| 22:27.05 | arrrghhh | Willd, lol no one is working on your sammy :P |
| 22:27.10 | Willd | arrrghhh: Psch |
| 22:27.13 | arrrghhh | in this room at least hahaha |
| 22:27.18 | Willd | arrrghhh: Silence, you fool! ;) |
| 22:27.22 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:27.49 | WisTilt2 | rhod and topa for sure, dont know about the others yet |
| 22:28.45 | arrrghhh | Willd, our panels don't collapse correctly (yet) so battery drain in sleep is horrendous. |
| 22:29.01 | arrrghhh | doesn't really apply to native android devices, they should all sleep correctly (i would hope!) |
| 22:29.06 | Willd | Hah |
| 22:29.06 | Willd | As if! |
| 22:29.10 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 22:29.26 | Willd | We have several as we call them "no sleep-bugs" |
| 22:29.39 | randomblame | lol |
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| 22:29.45 | randomblame | koreans can't do anything right |
| 22:30.08 | Willd | :) |
| 22:31.19 | randomblame | this isn't making me want that galaxy tab anymore |
| 22:31.33 | Willd | Yay horay |
| 22:31.39 | Willd | Another soul saved! |
| 22:31.48 | randomblame | lol |
| 22:31.57 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 22:32.26 | randomblame | htc needs to poop out a 10in tablet |
| 22:33.33 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh, there's a guy claiming the data folder is empty, I'm going to unmount libc and reboot a couple times and make sure this libc doesn't also make that particular last_kmsg work also |
| 22:33.55 | arrrghhh | already? |
| 22:33.59 | arrrghhh | man i'm responding to pm's. |
| 22:34.03 | arrrghhh | and supposed to be 'working' :P |
| 22:34.08 | rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11060332&postcount=375 |
| 22:34.14 | rpierce99 | i'll handle this one |
| 22:34.20 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:34.42 | arrrghhh | i'll let you take it then ;) |
| 22:34.49 | arrrghhh | i wonder if he's not looking on his android device |
| 22:35.02 | arrrghhh | if he's trying to find it in winmo or something... well i'll wait i guess. |
| 22:35.02 | rpierce99 | that would be pretty funny |
| 22:35.10 | arrrghhh | i dunno, what do you think the issue is? |
| 22:35.21 | arrrghhh | i was pretty clear (i thought) |
| 22:35.43 | rpierce99 | it's either user error or the default libs don't write that folder either. my dropbox only goes back to 4pm yesterday |
| 22:36.02 | arrrghhh | erm. |
| 22:36.04 | rpierce99 | grrr, shutdown causing android to reboot and having to pull the battery sucks |
| 22:36.05 | arrrghhh | that's odd... |
| 22:36.14 | arrrghhh | did you create a new data.img? |
| 22:36.18 | arrrghhh | obviously that would wipe 'em. |
| 22:36.18 | rpierce99 | no |
| 22:36.22 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 22:36.26 | arrrghhh | F22, explain yourself :P |
| 22:36.32 | rpierce99 | wait, does data.img get mounted as /data |
| 22:36.38 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 22:36.41 | rpierce99 | because /data being empty would, uh, not work |
| 22:36.48 | arrrghhh | lmao, no, |
| 22:36.55 | rpierce99 | so then user error |
| 22:36.56 | arrrghhh | notice he didn't start with a / |
| 22:37.04 | arrrghhh | he just said "data/system/dropbox" |
| 22:37.08 | randomblame | I knew there would be more f22 blaming |
| 22:37.12 | arrrghhh | so perhaps that's his issue, he's not starting at the root. |
| 22:37.23 | rpierce99 | yeah i'll see if i can clarify with him |
| 22:38.03 | F22 | lol |
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| 22:46.05 | arrrghhh | oy. i'm just havin an off day today. |
| 22:47.03 | rpierce99 | hm, said he was using astro, / wouldn't matter in that case |
| 22:47.16 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 22:47.17 | arrrghhh | i just read that too |
| 22:47.20 | arrrghhh | i guess i'll try it thru astro. |
| 22:47.25 | arrrghhh | i don't have that installed |
| 22:47.33 | arrrghhh | i don't seem to have any file manager app installed... |
| 22:47.42 | rpierce99 | yeah once system_server is done being dumb on mine i'm going to open it |
| 22:47.45 | rpierce99 | i already have it installed |
| 22:47.58 | arrrghhh | is there no "default" file explorer app in droid? |
| 22:48.05 | rpierce99 | not in frx04 |
| 22:48.14 | rpierce99 | there was one in blazn back in the day |
| 22:48.18 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 22:48.20 | arrrghhh | you need to be root |
| 22:48.26 | rpierce99 | yeah |
| 22:48.26 | arrrghhh | when i tried to ls /data it gave me an error |
| 22:48.31 | arrrghhh | su then ls /data works. |
| 22:48.35 | arrrghhh | so i bet that's the issue... |
| 22:48.42 | rpierce99 | astro isn't root? |
| 22:48.46 | Willd | Nay |
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| 22:50.18 | hyc | I've always wondered why you need a file explorer, since the first implementations didn't let you do anything besides see that the files were in a filesystem tree |
| 22:50.31 | hyc | couldn't open/run anything... |
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| 22:50.50 | arrrghhh | hyc, eh it'd be nice i guess. perhaps to view the SD card? lol |
| 22:51.02 | arrrghhh | i'm just thinking native android devices at this point, not necessairly our bastard port. |
| 22:51.16 | hyc | For file-level work I just run Connectbot's local session |
| 22:51.21 | hyc | do everything in the shell |
| 22:51.36 | arrrghhh | well that works |
| 22:51.42 | randomblame | our bastard port is better than some native implementations - just ask willd |
| 22:51.52 | hyc | but I guess if you're not already comfortable with linux that's not so useful |
| 22:51.52 | arrrghhh | but on a phone, i think i'd rather a gui |
| 22:52.10 | arrrghhh | hyc, i'm plenty comfortable with linux. sometimes i just rather use a GUI. easier to see things. |
| 22:52.11 | Willd | randomblame: True story bro |
| 22:52.12 | Willd | :) |
| 22:52.17 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:52.18 | hyc | heh. The only reason I bought a TP2 was to have a keyboard. guis suck. :P |
| 22:52.28 | arrrghhh | hyc, that was my main reason too ;) |
| 22:52.41 | randomblame | agreed on a phone gui - maybe I could live with using terminal on a bigger screen tho |
| 22:53.30 | arrrghhh | on my machine, much faster and easier on the terminal. |
| 22:53.47 | hyc | I'm getting pretty close to swapping SIMs with my G1 and making TP2 my primary phone |
| 22:53.57 | arrrghhh | i guess i have trouble seeing in the terminal on the phone. tiny text, relatively small screen... yea i'm spoiled by having dual-monitors at work :P |
| 22:54.04 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 22:54.37 | hyc | with the latest kernels, battery life is really good, with latest rootfs keyboard is fully functional |
| 22:54.49 | randomblame | yeah I have two 1080p monitors at home and a 4in wvga screen hurts my eyes in terminal |
| 22:54.51 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 22:54.56 | F22 | i'm happy with the command line as my file manager. don't need no stinkin gui to slow things down and screw things up. :P |
| 22:55.01 | hyc | hah. try a 3.5" QVGA screen :P |
| 22:55.02 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2 has done some incredible work improving our battery life. |
| 22:55.19 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 22:55.23 | arrrghhh | oh you terminal snobs :P |
| 22:55.39 | randomblame | forget them - they'll be blind in a few years |
| 22:55.42 | randomblame | lol |
| 22:55.47 | hyc | heheh |
| 22:55.56 | WisTilt2 | F22: I like the way you think:) |
| 22:56.05 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 22:56.16 | WisTilt2 | cmd line, vi, forever |
| 22:56.43 | F22 | i'm on the emacs side of that old jihad, but i can use vi too in a pinch since everything comes with it. |
| 22:56.59 | WisTilt2 | emacs is nice too |
| 22:57.01 | arrrghhh | i suck at vi. i'm sure it'd be great if i knew all the shortcuts. |
| 22:57.11 | arrrghhh | probably the reason i suck as a programmer lol |
| 22:57.23 | hyc | well, my standard session on the G1 was 96x26. With the TP2 I've moved up to 114x27 - more characters, and larger too. woohoo. |
| 22:57.57 | F22 | heck, i can even use sed when i feel in the mood. |
| 22:58.16 | hyc | heh. yep, sed for simple edits and/or large files. |
| 22:58.27 | randomblame | hehe wish we could output display info through usb |
| 22:58.47 | hyc | hmmm. I bet you could port the displaylink driver. |
| 22:59.10 | hyc | I wonder how you'd convince Android to use it as a framebuffer tho |
| 22:59.16 | arrrghhh | sed is sick. i want to learn moar. |
| 22:59.19 | arrrghhh | same with regex. |
| 22:59.26 | hyc | regex is the key to everything ;) |
| 22:59.33 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 22:59.41 | arrrghhh | i use such a small subset of regex. |
| 22:59.47 | arrrghhh | i want to get more proficient with it. |
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| 23:08.07 | jimmy1987 | good evening gentleman :) |
| 23:08.40 | arrrghhh | i'll give ya evening. |
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| 23:08.41 | randomblame | curse you guest additions |
| 23:10.10 | jimmy1987 | hehe :P |
| 23:10.13 | hyc | hmmm. On that 1/28 test kernel I was getting green light/sleep mode almost immediately |
| 23:10.18 | hyc | even with wifi and gps activated |
| 23:10.23 | arrrghhh | LIES |
| 23:10.30 | hyc | now on 1/30 kernel, no more, always orange led |
| 23:10.30 | arrrghhh | hyc, don't tell me... FroyoX? |
| 23:10.34 | hyc | yes |
| 23:10.39 | arrrghhh | can't help you then. |
| 23:10.50 | randomblame | yeah my experience was the opposite |
| 23:10.53 | hyc | ok, I'll switch over to frx04 |
| 23:11.00 | randomblame | 1/30 sleeps imediately with frx04 |
| 23:11.08 | randomblame | earlier kernels took their time |
| 23:11.48 | rpierce99 | hyc, tiad can't/won't tell anyone what/why he changes things, so there is so much random stuff in there, it's impossible to know why something is or is not working. |
| 23:12.06 | hyc | yeah, I'm noticing that from is forum posts |
| 23:12.13 | jimmy1987 | arrrghhh maybe you can answer this for me then, I'm using frx04, I'm amazed on how fast you have progressed with it. Almost everything runs out of the box no :) But when my phone goes into sleep mode it constant changes orange,green,orange,green,orange,green etc etc |
| 23:13.03 | rpierce99 | jimmy, frx04 vanilla (plain, no apps) doesn't have that problem. My guess is an app is set to do something that frequently |
| 23:13.17 | jimmy1987 | i'm using frx04 vanilla |
| 23:13.25 | jimmy1987 | just installed it |
| 23:13.29 | rpierce99 | you have no apps installed, no syncs configured? |
| 23:13.42 | jimmy1987 | Yes |
| 23:13.49 | rpierce99 | what phone? |
| 23:13.53 | jimmy1987 | TP2 |
| 23:13.56 | rpierce99 | which one |
| 23:14.10 | hyc | on a completely unrelated note, my 16GB class10 SD card is rather flaky. some boots I see I/O timeouts on it. |
| 23:14.14 | jimmy1987 | eh... how can I see that ? |
| 23:14.29 | hyc | I've dd'd the entire thing on my notebook SD slot and it hits no errors |
| 23:14.52 | rpierce99 | model number is under the battery, starts with Rhod |
| 23:15.02 | jimmy1987 | let me see |
| 23:15.22 | jimmy1987 | Rhod100 |
| 23:16.16 | randomblame | timmy jimmy |
| 23:16.30 | jimmy1987 | :P |
| 23:16.47 | arrrghhh | hyc, higher the class, less likely it's going to work. |
| 23:16.59 | jimmy1987 | no i don't have multiple personalities, and me neither :) |
| 23:17.15 | rpierce99 | well I don't want to flood the dev chat with troubleshooting, any known issues with the 100 that would apply here? |
| 23:17.23 | arrrghhh | jimmy1987, i've never seen that sleep condition. what did you download? |
| 23:18.24 | jimmy1987 | nothing, downloaded the frx04 from your site, unpacked the rar and transferred everything to formatted sd card |
| 23:18.39 | arrrghhh | jimmy1987, files.xdandroid.com? |
| 23:18.39 | hyc | arrrghhh: yeah, I've seen other posts to that effect. rather a bummer tho. with everything runnong on the SD card, slower cards are definitely a drag. |
| 23:18.57 | arrrghhh | hyc, not necessairly. my class4 works perfectly, and that seems to be the sweet spot. |
| 23:19.14 | arrrghhh | SD cards aren't really designed to be used like this - lots of short quick little writes. |
| 23:19.21 | arrrghhh | /reads |
| 23:20.15 | hyc | yeah... which is a good reason to cache as much as possible as long as possible |
| 23:20.32 | arrrghhh | eh, it'll all be moot when we're full NAND |
| 23:20.45 | jimmy1987 | http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.012211.rar that one |
| 23:21.14 | randomblame | my class 6 card only gives me crap when android is improperly shut down hard resets and battery pulls tend to cause corruption |
| 23:21.57 | randomblame | can't wait for stable nand |
| 23:22.05 | randomblame | speeeeeed |
| 23:22.07 | hyc | how much internal memory is in this phone? on my G1 I still use apps2sdext and patches like that |
| 23:22.16 | arrrghhh | jimmy1987, well that should be vanilla frx04 |
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| 23:22.24 | hyc | because the G1 is just too anemic in the memory department |
| 23:23.28 | arrrghhh | jimmy1987, any apps installed? |
| 23:23.39 | arrrghhh | gps enabled? anything else enabled? |
| 23:24.16 | jimmy1987 | none, gps disabled, I had my gmail account in it but I disabled all the synches |
| 23:24.41 | arrrghhh | i dunno dude |
| 23:24.44 | jimmy1987 | just reformatted the sd card and I'll try again, see if it works better this time |
| 23:24.51 | arrrghhh | i haven't been able to recreate that problem myself. |
| 23:25.01 | hyc | mebbe you can get a logcat that shows the culprit |
| 23:25.10 | jimmy1987 | logcat ? |
| 23:25.11 | hyc | I've seen that happen once. never reproduced it. |
| 23:25.29 | arrrghhh | i've never had it happen, and i've tried so many combinations. |
| 23:25.39 | arrrghhh | jimmy1987, it's almost got to be an app |
| 23:25.48 | arrrghhh | you didn't install ANY apps? |
| 23:26.03 | jimmy1987 | not a single one |
| 23:26.16 | jimmy1987 | because the market didn't work for me either |
| 23:26.17 | arrrghhh | odd |
| 23:26.22 | arrrghhh | what phone? |
| 23:26.27 | jimmy1987 | touch pro 2 |
| 23:26.33 | arrrghhh | rhod what |
| 23:26.34 | jimmy1987 | Rhod100 |
| 23:26.36 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 23:26.41 | arrrghhh | that phone is a bitch. |
| 23:26.46 | arrrghhh | i say we just remove support for it :P |
| 23:26.48 | jimmy1987 | hehe :P |
| 23:26.53 | jimmy1987 | Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 23:26.56 | jimmy1987 | :P |
| 23:27.00 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 23:27.23 | jimmy1987 | then I would have to actually buy a real android phone :P |
| 23:27.28 | arrrghhh | ha |
| 23:27.34 | randomblame | we should give it a seperate board/panel file lol |
| 23:27.42 | randomblame | and just stop working on it |
| 23:27.47 | jimmy1987 | :P |
| 23:27.57 | arrrghhh | that bug baffles me, as it's only occurred on that stupid FroyoX to my knowledge. |
| 23:28.01 | hyc | well, if you use Sprint, the Epic 4G is good |
| 23:28.08 | arrrghhh | until you came in here and ruined it all jimmy1987. what rootfs are you on? |
| 23:28.15 | arrrghhh | hyc, lol he doesn't use sprint if he has a RHOD100 |
| 23:28.15 | hyc | otherwise, there is no good Android phone with keyboard... |
| 23:28.22 | hyc | oh, right. duh. ;) |
| 23:28.24 | arrrghhh | evo shift looks cool |
| 23:28.27 | jimmy1987 | hehe lol |
| 23:28.27 | arrrghhh | but again, sprint. |
| 23:28.37 | randomblame | yep |
| 23:28.49 | randomblame | I wish it was for at&t |
| 23:28.52 | jimmy1987 | It's booting up now, let's see if it works ok now, maybe I did something wrong :0 |
| 23:29.26 | arrrghhh | yea maybe a reboot would fix it. |
| 23:29.28 | arrrghhh | bleh@at&t |
| 23:30.25 | jimmy1987 | ok now I reinstalled it and only thing I've done so far is input my pin nothing more let's see if it goes to sleep now :) |
| 23:30.30 | hyc | just installed frx04. think it's safe to copy my old data.img from froyox? or just start over? |
| 23:30.43 | arrrghhh | jimmy1987, PIN? |
| 23:30.52 | arrrghhh | hyc, you can try it, no guarantees. |
| 23:30.58 | randomblame | I'd start over |
| 23:31.00 | jimmy1987 | the password for my simcard to unlock my simcard :) |
| 23:31.01 | stinebd | it won't work. start over. |
| 23:31.12 | arrrghhh | jimmy1987, perhaps that's the problem, you can't have a SIM PIN. |
| 23:31.13 | hyc | 'k |
| 23:31.18 | arrrghhh | at least i didn't think you could... |
| 23:31.34 | jimmy1987 | hmm with rx03 it worked |
| 23:31.48 | stinebd | sim pins should work |
| 23:31.51 | arrrghhh | i just remember people reporting issues with that. |
| 23:31.58 | arrrghhh | what PIN am i thinking of then stine? |
| 23:32.01 | stinebd | i coded that myself... oh crap |
| 23:32.09 | arrrghhh | i know there was some sort of PIN auth that was screwing people up. |
| 23:32.13 | randomblame | lol |
| 23:32.24 | stinebd | puk? |
| 23:32.30 | jimmy1987 | VICTORY :P |
| 23:32.36 | stinebd | after you enter the wrong sim a few times it locks the sim and you need to enter puk |
| 23:32.42 | stinebd | which android doesn't support via gui |
| 23:32.43 | arrrghhh | hrm. not sure. |
| 23:32.48 | arrrghhh | i don't think it was that. |
| 23:32.50 | stinebd | wrong sim pin* |
| 23:33.14 | jimmy1987 | Now it is showing green led and staying green :) |
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| 23:35.48 | jimmy1987 | even went to sleep with GPS still on I see :P gps is activated in default |
| 23:36.08 | arrrghhh | if you use gps |
| 23:36.14 | arrrghhh | it won't sleep afterwards. |
| 23:36.33 | randomblame | gps really shouldn't be activated by default |
| 23:36.46 | randomblame | at least till the sleep issue is cured |
| 23:36.50 | stinebd | arrrghhh: is that rhod only? i don't see such behavior on raph |
| 23:36.57 | arrrghhh | i thought it was all |
| 23:36.59 | arrrghhh | i guess rhod only |
| 23:37.58 | jimmy1987 | trying to reproduce the changing leds color now |
| 23:38.50 | randomblame | what's the led on the right side for |
| 23:38.59 | randomblame | I don't think I've ever seen it lit |
| 23:39.18 | jimmy1987 | indeed |
| 23:39.32 | arrrghhh | randomblame, it's not an LED |
| 23:39.37 | arrrghhh | AFAIK that's the prox sensor. |
| 23:39.38 | jimmy1987 | I think htc thought it would just look fancy :P |
| 23:39.45 | randomblame | proximity sensor? |
| 23:39.48 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 23:39.53 | jimmy1987 | ah |
| 23:39.59 | randomblame | bah |
| 23:40.01 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: 2hrs in sleep, dropped from 89% to 88% :) gotta run, will be on tonight to code the system server fix. |
| 23:40.08 | arrrghhh | cool! |
| 23:40.13 | randomblame | that's awesome |
| 23:40.15 | jimmy1987 | :) |
| 23:40.21 | jimmy1987 | very awesome |
| 23:40.34 | randomblame | .05% per hour |
| 23:40.44 | randomblame | or there arbouts |
| 23:40.46 | arrrghhh | .5 |
| 23:40.47 | arrrghhh | but yea |
| 23:40.51 | arrrghhh | .05%... lol |
| 23:40.51 | hyc | ugh. frx04 with 2/1 test kernel hangs immediately |
| 23:41.00 | randomblame | ha I wish .05 just projecting |
| 23:41.08 | hyc | doesn't even get halfway down the screen after haret disappears |
| 23:41.09 | arrrghhh | .5 |
| 23:41.18 | randomblame | hyc is that deleting the data.img |
| 23:41.23 | hyc | yeah |
| 23:41.28 | randomblame | hyc - is that with f22's rootfs |
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| 23:41.35 | hyc | completely fresh, and yes, with f22 rootfs |
| 23:41.49 | randomblame | try the default rootfs I had that issue earlier with f22s |
| 23:42.01 | hyc | bummer, I want those keymaps :P |
| 23:42.05 | hyc | ok, will try... |
| 23:42.12 | randomblame | I got it to work by re copying it |
| 23:42.19 | randomblame | not sure why |
| 23:42.28 | randomblame | it hung just after msm_fb |
| 23:42.32 | randomblame | kicked in |
| 23:43.28 | F22 | i thought you said it worked for you randomblame |
| 23:43.52 | randomblame | it did I just had to delete it and copy it back over |
| 23:44.04 | randomblame | first try it didn't boot |
| 23:44.12 | randomblame | twice in a row |
| 23:44.17 | hyc | hmmm. yeah maybe I shouldn't have copied it over the old one. FAT fs is stupid that way. |
| 23:44.25 | randomblame | deleted rootfs then transfered it back and it worked |
| 23:44.36 | F22 | odd |
| 23:44.44 | randomblame | I thought it was a fluke |
| 23:44.53 | randomblame | but if hyc's is bugging out too... |
| 23:44.55 | randomblame | idk |
| 23:45.31 | XirXes | someone earlier asked how much internal storage we have. its 512 |
| 23:45.41 | XirXes | the g1 has half that |
| 23:46.03 | randomblame | poor g1 |
| 23:46.48 | hyc | yeah the G1 is really crippled |
| 23:46.53 | hyc | with 2x memory it would fly |
| 23:47.16 | XirXes | how much ram does it have?\ |
| 23:47.30 | hyc | looks like around 192M maybe only 128M |
| 23:47.30 | randomblame | yeah and with a tegra 2 and a 1080p screen it would be wonderful |
| 23:47.32 | randomblame | too bad |
| 23:47.35 | hyc | hard to tell from linux |
| 23:48.11 | hyc | randomblame: deleting rootfs.img and copying it again worked, it's past that initial point and creating data.img now |
| 23:48.27 | randomblame | weird |
| 23:48.36 | hyc | I'd definitely chalk it up to FATfs |
| 23:48.42 | randomblame | yeah |
| 23:48.46 | randomblame | fat sucks |
| 23:48.51 | randomblame | pray for nand |
| 23:48.56 | hyc | e.g., if you copy a new file over an old file and the new file is shorter, it still has the old file's length |
| 23:49.05 | jimmy1987 | what's the AUO panel bug in rhod100 I keep hearing about ? :) |
| 23:50.04 | hyc | jimmy1987: not so much a bug as unimplemented feature |
| 23:50.25 | F22 | turning the panel off when going to sleep is bad when you can't as yet turn it back on. ;) |
| 23:51.10 | jimmy1987 | hehe indeed |
| 23:51.13 | arrrghhh | yup. |
| 23:51.26 | arrrghhh | don't have all the registers sorted out for that panel to wake it back up. |
| 23:51.55 | F22 | panel init for auo isn't in the kernel yet. |
| 23:52.04 | randomblame | is it documented at least? |
| 23:52.16 | hyc | F22: any luck with that engineering sample phone? |
| 23:52.22 | randomblame | or is it just going to be detected and left out |
| 23:53.03 | F22 | i've been so busy with pushing out the rootfs and a few other things that i haven't yet had a chance to starting looking at it yet. soon i hope. |
| 23:53.30 | jimmy1987 | Do all the rhod100 have this panel ? |
| 23:53.44 | F22 | documentation? heh. that's what the dll is for. ;) |
| 23:54.01 | F22 | jimmy1987: no |
| 23:54.01 | randomblame | lol |
| 23:54.13 | randomblame | what's this about an engineering sample? |
| 23:54.39 | F22 | it's a pre-production 210 with the auo panel. |
| 23:54.48 | randomblame | that's neato |
| 23:54.54 | hyc | ok, booted up fully. hit the power button, LED is orange. |
| 23:55.04 | randomblame | did you find it in some asian market |
| 23:55.11 | hyc | lol |
| 23:55.16 | F22 | lol |
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| 23:55.44 | hyc | found it on eBay. the guy who sold it to me said he bought it on eBay before. |
| 23:56.13 | hyc | but I think he also said he installed Wm6.5 on it himself |
| 23:56.20 | hyc | not sure how he did that |
| 23:56.27 | randomblame | that sucks |
| 23:56.32 | hyc | it still had bootloader 0087 |
| 23:56.46 | randomblame | too bad it didn't have the original winmo stuff |
| 23:56.52 | randomblame | that might have been interesting |
| 23:57.45 | arrrghhh | or buggy |
| 23:57.45 | arrrghhh | whichever |
| 23:57.59 | hyc | I'd go with buggy ;) |
| 23:58.13 | hyc | which is why it's no longer my problem. now it's F22's ;) |
| 23:58.15 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:58.25 | arrrghhh | oh you donated that ES RHOD? |
| 23:58.32 | arrrghhh | nice, didn't even realize that was you :P |
| 23:58.38 | hyc | yeah, my handle is highlandsun on the forum |
| 23:58.47 | arrrghhh | right |
| 23:59.06 | arrrghhh | i'm uh.... arrrghhh. everywhere basically :P |
| 23:59.14 | hyc | lol |
| 23:59.19 | arrrghhh | i was born with this handle. |
| 23:59.29 | arrrghhh | i think there was one site where i couldn't get it, and i was enraged. :P |
| 23:59.59 | rpierce99 | did you say "arrrghhh"? /dumbjoke |
