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00:16.21 | stickman89 | he was... |
00:17.20 | stickman89 | Not been any activity from him since 11:50 i believe... |
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00:52.40 | RaiderX | anyone here who is good with kernels? |
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02:15.24 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: got a question about something on userland side when you got a minute. |
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02:21.21 | stinebd | WisTilt2: shoot |
02:23.29 | WisTilt2 | Do you know the function in userland that handles the unlock slider? or what kernel function it calls when you touch it? |
02:24.06 | stinebd | kernel function? |
02:24.07 | RaiderX | its in framework.jar |
02:25.03 | stinebd | WisTilt2: the userspace component is keyguard i think |
02:25.24 | WisTilt2 | trying to work out this timing problem with display not coming back up unless unlock is touched. seems that the action key fixes it also. |
02:26.32 | stinebd | some former dev also believed that keyguard was causing battery drain |
02:26.44 | stinebd | who knows what might be going wrong there |
02:28.21 | WisTilt2 | i havent been in the userland source for so long... guess ill have to dig back in. everything in the kernel is working correctly as far as bringing panel back up from full collapse, just this issue where display graphics not coming on without touching screen or hitting action key is annoying. |
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02:33.23 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: keyguard and battery drain? dont follow. in sleep that shouldn't be alive should it? |
02:33.48 | stinebd | WisTilt2: who knows. whoever it was said disabling the lock screen greatly improved power usage |
02:34.45 | WisTilt2 | interesting... |
02:35.55 | stinebd | ok found the source for the lock screen |
02:36.18 | stinebd | frameworks/policies/base/phone/com/android/internal/policy/impl/LockScreen.java and related files |
02:36.31 | stinebd | (not buried at all :P) |
02:37.26 | WisTilt2 | thanks, was browsing through the frameworks tree and getting a headache |
02:38.11 | RaiderX | lol |
02:38.20 | RaiderX | lockscreen wont cause the wakeup lag |
02:38.28 | RaiderX | and wont cause any battery drain either |
02:39.01 | stinebd | WisTilt2: if you're building images yourself, it could be helpful to define DBG in that file and get some logcat output |
02:40.42 | WisTilt2 | yeah agree. got this narrowed down to a timing problem, just need to see the logic flow to figure out what isn't waiting long enough after the power up sequence. |
02:41.02 | stinebd | yeah, glancing at the code that might be easier with debugging :/ |
02:41.14 | stinebd | because holy hell |
02:41.38 | stinebd | lots of on*() event handlers and no documentation |
02:41.53 | stinebd | who knows what does what when |
02:42.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, hi, any success? |
02:42.01 | WisTilt2 | got battery drain down to around .5% in full sleep, around 1% with occasional use. i know there's more to gain also. |
02:42.14 | stinebd | do it for raph now :D |
02:42.46 | WisTilt2 | i want to try my new non-microp autobl code on your raph one of these days also |
02:42.59 | stinebd | non-microp? |
02:43.09 | stinebd | kernel thread? |
02:43.52 | WisTilt2 | yeah, got autobl working perfectly without using microp at all. still handled by the hardware but just set it up with a lot of tricky register coding now. |
02:44.02 | stinebd | ah |
02:44.04 | stinebd | fun |
02:44.14 | stinebd | tricky register coding makes everything less boring |
02:44.34 | stinebd | i take it that way you can adjust sensor/backlight levels? |
02:44.58 | WisTilt2 | tricky because the documentation was written by idiots that forgot to document some of the key parts pertaining to certain registers |
02:45.30 | WisTilt2 | yes, can set dim up/down rates, minimum/max brightness during autobl, etc. |
02:50.14 | WisTilt2 | well steelers and packers will duke it out. jets almost came back there in last quarter |
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02:55.29 | WisTilt2 | stinebd, do you know the url for the ril tree that actually works? the one arrrghhh gave me has probs and you cant pull the tree. |
02:57.52 | stinebd | WisTilt2: git clone git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-htc-ril.git -b diamond |
02:58.58 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: you're a wealth of instant info:) need to buy you dinner if you're ever out this way. |
02:59.33 | stinebd | :) |
02:59.48 | stinebd | one day soon, i'll be rearranging our whole ridiculous repository layout |
03:00.16 | stinebd | i got surprisingly good feedback on the idea via the mailing list |
03:01.04 | WisTilt2 | going to have one of my radio programmers take a brief look at the ril stuff and can put him on it full time after we finish our project going to certification, then we'll have more time to play with this project. |
03:02.47 | WisTilt2 | yeah speaking of the list, i tried emailing a comment to your post and got some kind of permission denied to post to the list |
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03:05.30 | stinebd | are you subbed? |
03:06.32 | WisTilt2 | say what? |
03:07.00 | stinebd | subscribed. nevermind, i see that you are |
03:07.55 | WisTilt2 | yes i receive everything from the posts, your post was first i tried to reply to and got the error |
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03:11.14 | stinebd | mind forwarding it to me? i don't see anything interesting in the logs |
03:11.28 | stinebd | stinebd@xdandroid.com |
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03:16.23 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: dont have it on this laptop, ill forward it from office tomorrow |
03:16.37 | WisTilt2 | dinner, back in about 30 |
03:16.41 | stinebd | ok no rush |
03:16.54 | stinebd | i'm gonna hit the pail |
03:17.14 | stinebd | enjoy your grub |
03:17.19 | WisTilt2 | ok thanks for all the info |
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05:41.34 | lilsnoop | do i just put physkeyboard=tilt2 |
05:41.53 | lilsnoop | or rhod210? |
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10:40.00 | UweR | i have installed since 5 minutes the new ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo.012311 cab on my blackstone ... |
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13:56.32 | gauner1986 | hi |
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13:57.18 | Curious_ | hi |
13:57.33 | gauner1986 | does anybody have an idea how i can find out how frequent files are accessed under linux? |
13:58.03 | Curious_ | put printf(filename) in everyfile :ÃD |
13:58.08 | Curious_ | :D |
13:58.19 | gauner1986 | haha |
13:58.21 | gauner1986 | :P |
13:58.25 | gauner1986 | even in textfiles? |
13:58.26 | gauner1986 | ;) |
13:58.29 | Curious_ | ah |
13:58.34 | Curious_ | you don't mean code |
13:58.40 | Curious_ | then i dunno :D |
14:08.39 | arif-ali | This command will tell you which files were changed in the last minute "find / -cmin -1" |
14:08.54 | gauner1986 | hm ok, thx |
14:15.39 | arif-ali | or even better, if you just was file accessed in the last minute "find / -type f -amin -1" |
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14:23.48 | gauner1986 | hm.. there must be a statistic somewhere.. |
14:23.51 | gauner1986 | hey there in the tower |
14:23.53 | gauner1986 | :P |
14:24.17 | noobhands | fuck you sebastian |
14:24.29 | noobhands | this is my last week |
14:24.29 | noobhands | :D |
14:24.30 | noobhands | at work |
14:24.58 | [Rapunzel] | hey |
14:26.03 | gauner1986 | noobhands: amsterdam afterwards.. thats kinda motivating, no? |
14:26.05 | gauner1986 | :P |
14:26.47 | noobhands | yea |
14:28.44 | MattOG | not so motivated once he gets there.... just sit... and chill... |
14:28.52 | noobhands | that's the plan |
14:28.58 | noobhands | deserve a break from all this bullshit |
14:29.09 | MattOG | i got thrown out of smokey's over there |
14:29.36 | MattOG | got a little agitated because my cue kept going through the ball when playing pool |
14:29.57 | MattOG | obviously I was slightly mistaken about the actual events that were taking place.... |
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14:49.34 | [Rapunzel] | heh I found on my computer |
14:49.35 | [Rapunzel] | VERSION = 2 |
14:49.36 | [Rapunzel] | PATCHLEVEL = 6 |
14:49.36 | [Rapunzel] | SUBLEVEL = 21 |
14:49.38 | [Rapunzel] | :D |
14:55.23 | gauner1986 | that's ancient |
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14:56.03 | [Rapunzel] | ya |
14:58.35 | [Rapunzel] | dcordes ping |
15:00.03 | Curious_ | rapunzy wazzup |
15:00.32 | [Rapunzel] | wanna complain to him about a lot of spam in htc-wiki |
15:00.43 | Curious_ | he complains too |
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15:01.32 | Curious_ | what are you dancing with |
15:02.08 | [Rapunzel] | heh |
15:02.19 | [Rapunzel] | how proximity? ^^ |
15:02.40 | Curious_ | still sucks |
15:02.56 | Curious_ | i will focus its light and reflect back to it |
15:03.05 | Curious_ | so that i can burn it ^^:D |
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15:05.02 | plupke | Curious_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwtm50-AALM |
15:06.14 | Curious_ | gonna check now |
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15:10.45 | stickman89 | afternoon |
15:10.59 | plupke | morning |
15:11.51 | g3rm | hello |
15:13.13 | g3rm | stickman89: how far you could get with nand boot on blac? |
15:16.48 | stickman89 | I had my kids this weekend buddy, so nowhere atm |
15:17.36 | stickman89 | ex is being a right bitch atm too, aint helping... |
15:17.51 | g3rm | sorry to hear that |
15:18.15 | stickman89 | yeah I know, it actually is making it easier for me to move on... her being a bitch that is |
15:18.27 | g3rm | ^^ |
15:18.56 | stickman89 | she left me over christmas, yeah I know sucks aye. Nice way of saying Happy f*cking christmas aye. |
15:19.11 | stickman89 | ahh well, moving on lol |
15:20.14 | stickman89 | I will take a look at ACL's commits in a mo |
15:20.27 | g3rm | today I've tried those |
15:20.51 | stickman89 | just checked xda and understand he's done some work on our board. |
15:20.57 | stickman89 | ahh right, where are we? |
15:21.00 | g3rm | but all I got was two vibs and "smart mobility" spash screen |
15:21.58 | g3rm | and now I think I've messed up something while building nbh |
15:23.12 | stickman89 | ok so kernel is initializing then, have you check dmesg? |
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15:24.52 | stickman89 | sorry bout that IRC freaked out on me |
15:25.34 | stickman89 | sorry didn't get the last msg if any g3rm |
15:26.06 | g3rm | no it's ok |
15:26.35 | [Rapunzel] | ~seen NetRipper |
15:26.37 | apt | netripper is currently on #htc-linux (3d 17h 51m 33s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 1d 17h 12m 2s, last said: 'thanks'. |
15:26.44 | g3rm | I didn't get any dmesg :( |
15:28.06 | g3rm | probably never got to the point where dmesg is created |
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15:29.21 | stickman89 | that sucks |
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15:29.28 | g3rm | I need verbose mode - it's hard to tell anything when you don't know what's going on |
15:30.04 | stickman89 | have you checked out xdmcdmc's nbh yet? I haven't had the time but I would like know if anyone can confirm there getting as far as he claims... |
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15:30.27 | g3rm | one guy said he tried and posted his dmesg |
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15:30.57 | g3rm | he got to the same point so I didn't bother trying it |
15:31.56 | g3rm | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10808805&postcount=76 |
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15:33.39 | stickman89 | you noticed RIL's fallen over in the latest rootfs? |
15:34.16 | stickman89 | well you now have to toggle loudspeaker for the mic and speaker to work in call. |
15:34.27 | stickman89 | for calls being recieved that is. |
15:34.45 | g3rm | yea that sucks |
15:34.51 | stickman89 | only happened on eclair builds for me in the past, now with the latest rootfs it's happening in froyo also. |
15:35.53 | g3rm | for me that was always random |
15:36.19 | stickman89 | I made a rootfs based on the previous version with correct key binding's and latest gralloc and ligles mounted via init script, will do it for the latest rootfs now and swapout |
15:36.19 | stickman89 | the rill and see what I get. |
15:36.58 | stickman89 | yeah I found that too, seems it was random on eclair builds for me, now its happening all the time without fail. |
15:37.50 | stickman89 | g3rm you seen MIUI for ARM7 devices yet? |
15:37.57 | g3rm | no |
15:38.13 | g3rm | I'm not interested in builds for AMR7 |
15:39.00 | stickman89 | yeah lol, anyway the UI is pretty nice but for ARM7 only so were buggered so I'm basically decompiling and modifying an ARM6 launcher to imitate it. |
15:39.29 | stickman89 | looks great so far... |
15:39.58 | g3rm | you're a busy man :) |
15:40.28 | stickman89 | yeah I know, It's not helping the stress, should really stop taking onboard so many things. |
15:40.48 | g3rm | [acl]: here? |
15:41.19 | stickman89 | bet my followers on my website are getting pissed of with me inactive :( I dev for the hero too... |
15:42.24 | g3rm | so you abandoned hero for now? |
15:42.42 | [acl] | im here. sup fellas |
15:42.46 | stickman89 | for now, I kinda get carried away sometimes :P |
15:42.46 | g3rm | hi |
15:43.03 | g3rm | one quick question bout blac nand |
15:43.38 | g3rm | did xdmcdmc sent you his patch to fix verbose mode? |
15:43.50 | [acl] | who u talkin to ? |
15:43.52 | [acl] | moi ? |
15:44.00 | g3rm | sry to you ofc |
15:44.03 | stickman89 | he just diff'd the changes from the linux-msm kernel. |
15:44.21 | g3rm | oh |
15:44.24 | stickman89 | I can check that out in a mo if you'd like and share my findings. |
15:44.39 | stickman89 | sorry, didn't mean to butt in :( |
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15:45.24 | g3rm | np all I want is to get my hands on that one so I can see what I'm doing |
15:45.58 | stickman89 | have you made changes to your tinboot.s g3rm? |
15:46.31 | g3rm | yea I did |
15:47.38 | stickman89 | hold on let me go get my dev laptop |
15:47.39 | g3rm | [acl]: your latest commits include fix for verbose mode? |
15:47.56 | stickman89 | as far as I was aware it was commits to fix usb |
15:47.58 | [acl] | wtf is verbose mode? |
15:48.19 | [acl] | g3rm: never heard of such a mode.. lol. |
15:48.47 | stickman89 | kernel isn't intialing display, he's asking whether that was fixed for our board. |
15:49.17 | g3rm | ehh.. i meant boot console display |
15:50.16 | stickman89 | sorry i may have reffered to it as that g3rm before, that's my bad, been helping alot of people with hackintosh's atm, stuck in the brain :S |
15:51.07 | [acl] | sbl enables panel so its not that. I may need to look into the frame buffer to make sure its all good for blac. Now i cant test so i have no idea. but the console itself is enabled on all of our builds |
15:51.34 | [acl] | g3rm: you have a build env ready ? |
15:51.40 | [Rapunzel] | hey [acl], SPL not SBL :P |
15:51.49 | stickman89 | I'm good for it acl |
15:51.54 | g3rm | [acl]: but it's not showing by default on blac |
15:52.01 | [acl] | [Rapunzel]: ahh yes.. thanks.. i can always count on you |
15:52.08 | [Rapunzel] | ;) |
15:52.13 | stickman89 | ofcoarse sorry, framebuffer ffs |
15:52.21 | g3rm | xdmcdmc fixed that but he didn't share his patch |
15:52.33 | [acl] | g3rm: did you test with my commits from yest ? |
15:52.43 | g3rm | yes I did |
15:52.52 | stickman89 | yeah that's why I had my doubts, he posted some nbh's after but there was no mention from anyone else about working framebuffer |
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15:53.06 | g3rm | can't see console and I can't do dmesg |
15:53.18 | [acl] | g3rm: do you hear the vib ? |
15:53.22 | g3rm | so I don't know wtf is happening |
15:53.28 | g3rm | yes it loads kernel |
15:53.29 | [acl] | g3rm: do you hear the vibrations tho ? |
15:53.46 | [acl] | g3rm: ok it may be loading but with no panel. So need to dump dmes on the sdcard. |
15:54.20 | g3rm | I've tried that by adding lines to froyo.user.conf |
15:54.21 | [acl] | g3rm: modify the rootfs to dump the dmesg |
15:54.27 | stickman89 | g3rm did you set it up properly to dump dmesg |
15:54.27 | g3rm | but no luck |
15:54.42 | stickman89 | not the conf buddy |
15:54.52 | stickman89 | damn acl beat me to it :P |
15:55.09 | stickman89 | I will shut up now lol |
15:55.14 | noobhands | gauner1986: |
15:55.16 | g3rm | lol I knew I'm stupid :/ |
15:55.20 | noobhands | i think it's time for a sneaky ninja burger king |
15:55.21 | noobhands | ;] |
15:55.22 | [acl] | g3rm: need to get logs bro.. somehow we need it. |
15:55.25 | noobhands | piss these guys off |
15:55.37 | gauner1986 | noobhands: where's my server? :D |
15:55.39 | [Rapunzel] | go out, troll |
15:55.58 | noobhands | gauner1986: Friday |
15:56.02 | gauner1986 | :D |
15:56.05 | noobhands | ;] |
15:56.16 | g3rm | ok I'll try do it properly next time |
15:56.38 | stickman89 | [Rapunzel] who are you refferring too? |
15:56.46 | noobhands | stickman89: me |
15:56.53 | g3rm | but some time later since I got to go now |
15:56.55 | [acl] | g3rm: also i added usb to the board file. So try to adb into the unit after like 10 secs into the boot. If you see adb respond, then boom dump dmesg |
15:57.13 | g3rm | sure I'll try that also |
15:57.21 | [Rapunzel] | to n00byhands |
15:57.26 | [Rapunzel] | :) |
15:57.35 | g3rm | thx for your help |
15:57.48 | g3rm | I hope I catch you later |
15:57.51 | stickman89 | going to compile now |
15:57.51 | g3rm | bb |
15:58.14 | stickman89 | later g3rm |
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16:02.41 | stickman89 | [acl] you hangin around? I will get some logs over to you shortly if you like. |
16:03.14 | [acl] | stickman89: sure.. or just post it on xda since im at work.i cant do much from here |
16:05.07 | stickman89 | cool will post it on my thread asap. |
16:05.37 | stickman89 | dw I don't expect you to do anything with it whilst your at work :) |
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16:30.53 | apt | i haven't seen 'gnutoo|desktop', [Rapunzel] |
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18:21.04 | emwe | [acl]: you are on cdma or gsm? |
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18:49.32 | [acl] | emwe: cdma.. but i have no service.. :-( |
18:49.53 | emwe | [acl]: i can do calls, but no data. |
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18:50.27 | [acl] | emwe: odd.. i havent been able to test any of that since i have no service |
18:50.52 | emwe | [acl]: data says it's up but nothing going through it. do you by chance have a dmesg (no matter from which kernel) from the start? i need cdma smd_alloc_channel output. |
18:51.50 | emwe | just would like to see the smd channel layout of cdma |
18:52.47 | [acl] | emwe: not on me. maybe when i get home |
18:53.08 | emwe | [acl]: thx. when i am still around then ;) |
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18:54.18 | [Rapunzel] | hey Alex |
18:54.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey |
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18:54.32 | [Rapunzel] | h ur exams? |
18:54.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | pizdets is coming |
18:54.57 | [Rapunzel] | :D |
18:54.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm having probability theory and statistics in a week |
18:55.11 | [Rapunzel] | oh hate them, |
18:55.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | everyone does |
18:55.32 | [Rapunzel] | remember how teacher spalil me with text copy from my device :D |
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18:55.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | universal is a bit too large to use for cheating |
18:57.15 | [Rapunzel] | xperia ? |
18:57.18 | [Rapunzel] | or u sold it already |
18:58.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, still using |
18:59.01 | [Rapunzel] | got uni? |
18:59.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | of course not |
18:59.24 | [Rapunzel] | Alex[sp3dev]universal is a bit too large to use for cheating |
18:59.24 | [Rapunzel] | ? |
18:59.43 | gauner1986 | Alex[sp3dev]: keyboard still not broken? :D |
18:59.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Rapunzel]: i have seen it live. but never had it |
18:59.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: nope. just the case is cracked everywhere |
19:00.29 | gauner1986 | Alex[sp3dev]: many keys were not reacting anymore as i gave mine away.. |
19:00.49 | [Rapunzel] | hm |
19:00.52 | gauner1986 | or i had to press them really hard |
19:01.00 | gauner1986 | friend of mine had the same problem |
19:02.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | still.. i don't think it's worth changing it. qsd8250 and A8 are getting outdated as A9 emerges. so buying hd2 or sth like would be a waste of money. affordable A9 phones won't appear within a year. i'd better get myself A9 tablet and run ubuntu on it |
19:02.17 | [Rapunzel] | heh u think so :P |
19:02.34 | [Rapunzel] | A8 A9 they should be same |
19:02.36 | [Rapunzel] | almost |
19:02.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | except i'm speaking about dual-core A9 |
19:03.06 | [Rapunzel] | yeah dual core can be more powerful agree |
19:03.19 | [Rapunzel] | I am waiting devices on MSM8660 |
19:03.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | either msm8660 or tegra2. whichever comes first and is cheaper |
19:03.46 | [Rapunzel] | tegra sucks for me :) |
19:04.07 | [Rapunzel] | 8660 is really nice... there around 13 cores |
19:04.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, according to the already-released devices, tegra2 is probably not very buggy (although gpu is quite modest).. |
19:04.49 | [Rapunzel] | dunno I don't like NV in embedded world |
19:05.35 | Jhinta | hi all , [Q] , wat is needed to port the dhd kernel source to gnulinux? |
19:05.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | but they already have GLES driver for X. why not.. |
19:05.49 | [Rapunzel] | I asked u... |
19:05.58 | [Rapunzel] | not tell me this words :D |
19:06.37 | [Rapunzel] | so f* snow |
19:06.39 | [Rapunzel] | today |
19:06.41 | [Rapunzel] | and wind |
19:08.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | dunno. it's warm in moscow (well. i suppoze, around zero.) i walked without cap and gloves today |
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19:09.32 | NeoMatrixJR | hey [acl], has anyone noticed any graphics glitches with the new rootfs and FRX04? |
19:09.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: ping |
19:10.28 | NeoMatrixJR | I take it he's afk? |
19:10.32 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: FRX4? |
19:10.38 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sup bro.. how goes it |
19:11.01 | NeoMatrixJR | he lives! |
19:11.07 | NeoMatrixJR | err. yeah... frx4 |
19:11.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i have replaced tssc_manager with vanilla msm_ts from 35. have not managed to cause cpu load to jump over 65% even with hard twiddling. and launcher/homescreen seem fast |
19:13.03 | NeoMatrixJR | Ah! I was right... FRX04. anyways... anyone complain of glitches? Mine's been running all morning. It just started flashing "pretty colors" whenever I do something on the screen. |
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19:13.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: on another note, our microp and mmc stuff sucks so hard that i'm rewriting it from scratch for 35. turns out it freezed because of some subtle bug in mmc.c which i have yet to verify |
19:14.23 | NeoMatrixJR | and it's only the part of the screen updating (not the whole screen) |
19:14.35 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: ahh.. didnt know about that mmc stuff. But i was going to ask you about the smd.c and other rpc related stuff. Do you have any suggestions so we dont have all these if statements in there so we can have all devices use the same code? |
19:15.01 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: i didnt even know frx4 is out.. i need to check it out.. |
19:15.27 | gauner1986 | dual-core |
19:15.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: sure. i'm going to implement runtime amss detection as a very early call |
19:15.28 | gauner1986 | <3 |
19:15.29 | gauner1986 | need |
19:15.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: that may cause overfap |
19:16.19 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: Ok, till then i will just butcher it to continue with the progress :-) |
19:16.35 | NeoMatrixJR | yeah. I'm running FRX04 + rootfs w/ your updates + camera test kernel. froyo.user.conf has had all 3d mount lines removed. now it's just got the one for the camera library |
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19:18.06 | gauner1986 | Alex[sp3dev]: overfap? |
19:18.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: that's a neologism |
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19:18.32 | gauner1986 | i see :P |
19:18.35 | [Rapunzel] | u can turn one core off |
19:18.44 | [Rapunzel] | and live on second |
19:18.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | then it will be underfap |
19:19.23 | NeoMatrixJR | wouldn't one core just be back to regular fap? |
19:19.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | dunno.. depends on the other hardware |
19:25.18 | RaiderX | im tryin to get android kernel 2.6.32.21 to 2.6.32.28 |
19:25.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol |
19:25.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | doesn't sound like a useful update |
19:26.10 | RaiderX | well its patched about 1000 files |
19:26.51 | RaiderX | so no point updating then? |
19:28.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | what for if it's working? you could try some more recent version (2.6.35, for example). but actually most of the interesting changes which can potentially increase performance are in 2.6.38 (like removal of big kernel lock). but you'd have to fuck hard to fit leo support and android support there (because qcom and google don't care to write proper code and send it upstream) |
19:30.40 | RaiderX | heh |
19:30.49 | RaiderX | im workin on Desire HD |
19:30.50 | [Rapunzel] | "ó ëèíóêñà äèçàéíà - íîëü. Ñîòíÿ ÷åáóðàøåê ÷åòî êîäÿò è ëîìàþò äðóã äðóãó" |
19:30.51 | RaiderX | not leo kernel |
19:31.54 | Jhinta | raidex ,, desire HD? |
19:32.03 | Jhinta | your working on a gnukernel? |
19:33.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Rapunzel]: oh yeah. sure. but there are no problems when the stuff is in upstream (like pxa). the thumb rule is - the one who breaks something, fixes everything that depended on the broken part. if you chose to fork the kernel and not collaborate with the main branch - then these are your problems |
19:33.28 | [Rapunzel] | Alex, u able to read this? |
19:33.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | nope |
19:33.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm using 2cyr.cm |
19:33.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | s/cm/com |
19:33.41 | [Rapunzel] | ohh |
19:33.55 | [Rapunzel] | it's not my words ;) |
19:34.03 | [Rapunzel] | but I agree with them |
19:34.41 | [Rapunzel] | mamaich said this, he as usual tells right things :) |
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19:35.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok. let's define the interfaces once and for all and stop any development |
19:35.45 | [Rapunzel] | why stop development? |
19:35.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | or link all the necessary libraries statically to each driver like most wince coders do |
19:35.53 | [Rapunzel] | nobody stops u from changing code inside |
19:36.19 | [Rapunzel] | u can rewrite whole stuffs inside, but don't touch interfaces! |
19:36.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | this is actually wrong. you cannot define a generic interface until you have the proper implementation |
19:37.14 | [Rapunzel] | yeah, but it's done and working ;) |
19:37.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | stop that, ok? we've had this talk for like 20 times already |
19:37.31 | [Rapunzel] | like communications with drivers only via ioctl() |
19:37.39 | [Rapunzel] | :D |
19:37.49 | [Rapunzel] | u surrender? |
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19:39.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm tired of arguing with you. but hey.. if you don't integrate your code upstream, the cost of linux ownership is incredible. but i just like it because it's very good for educational purposes. and i prefer POSIX to win32. and nothing more to it |
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19:40.14 | [Rapunzel] | why u prefer POSIX. explain ur point of view |
19:40.38 | [Rapunzel] | WaitForMultipleObjects ^^ |
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19:41.20 | [Rapunzel] | but posix thread also good. won't lie. at least nobody change them. |
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19:42.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | but i have to agree that there are a lot of problems. you see, more interfaces are actually becoming stable. but it's just that linux was not heavily used in embedded and especially PDA until some 5 years ago. and some stuff (like power management) just sucks. but it's getting better. on the other hand, stuff like V4L and networking stack are very accurate and clean. |
19:44.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | the hugest advantage of POSIX is that it's very simple, compact and portable. and it hasn't changed much in recent 20 years, and is still nice. this is why there are so many unixes like *BSD, Solaris, Linux and what not and the efforts to port applications between them are minimal |
19:44.37 | [Rapunzel] | ya some RTOS have posix support |
19:44.42 | [Rapunzel] | not full but support |
19:44.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | on another note. maybe winapi is not bad as is. it is just patented and not open-source which allows you to only use it on windows.. |
19:46.59 | [Rapunzel] | ya |
19:47.15 | [Rapunzel] | but it rather good designed |
19:47.47 | dcordes | hi |
19:48.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | just please don't start holywars. it is not productive. usually idiots argue and troll on forums. writing code is better than figthing. (fighting inside linux community is actually the major cause of slow development) |
19:50.47 | [Rapunzel] | hey dcordes |
19:50.53 | [Rapunzel] | how is xleo_drv.so? |
19:50.57 | [Rapunzel] | ^^ |
19:51.24 | dcordes | did not try yet. I am trying to tackle the radio init on magldr bootup |
19:51.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: hi. about ubuntu. how do you handle stuff like disabling rfkills, controlling modem power (ril) and so on? got some daemon and ui for that? |
19:51.51 | [Rapunzel] | "the major cause of slow development" -> version X: MyFooFunction, version Y: FooMyFunction. it's the real case of slow development! |
19:52.02 | dcordes | I fear I have to compile xleo_drv.so myself in order to match Xorg version |
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19:54.19 | dcordes | [Rapunzel]: any way to check if radio is in good state except dialing and seeing it softreset ? |
19:54.53 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: what modem power =? |
19:55.13 | dcordes | there is patched ofono with sphone program from Amipro |
19:55.26 | dcordes | for calling (no audio) and texting |
19:55.29 | dcordes | it is in the wiki |
19:55.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: ok. and about bluetooth and wifi. does UI allow you to turn rfk off? |
19:55.59 | [Rapunzel] | dcordes, I can upload sources |
19:56.11 | dcordes | I didn't try bt cause I don't need it and never woprried about wifi rfk |
19:56.16 | dcordes | wifi works ootb |
19:56.37 | dcordes | [Rapunzel]: that would be nice |
19:56.58 | dcordes | [Rapunzel]: I didn't get to pull your full kernel tree yet |
19:57.40 | [Rapunzel] | I will push it too same tree in additional folder |
19:58.06 | dcordes | perfect |
19:58.16 | dcordes | thx |
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19:59.13 | [Rapunzel] | or I am so lazy |
19:59.24 | [Rapunzel] | I will upload it to my LEO folder on site :) |
19:59.42 | dcordes | hm something is fishy with radio init |
19:59.48 | dcordes | ok |
20:00.05 | dcordes | I send the 3 commands but data won't come up |
20:00.22 | dcordes | I do not get the freete though |
20:00.24 | dcordes | z |
20:00.34 | dcordes | no softreset on dial after commands sent |
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20:02.24 | dcordes | AT@BRIC=0 AT+CFUN=0 AT+COPS=2 |
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20:02.56 | [Rapunzel] | http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Meego/xleo_MEEGO.rar |
20:02.57 | dcordes | do windoze/android send extra commands before they can dial ? |
20:03.09 | [Rapunzel] | yeah a lot of different commands |
20:03.27 | dcordes | ok then it's expected |
20:03.56 | dcordes | becuase I never ran any of these data dial scripts w/o wm init |
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20:07.06 | dcordes | where is the ril code portion that does the bootup init ? |
20:07.23 | [Rapunzel] | some git with leo libraries |
20:07.51 | dcordes | libhtc_ril_wrapper.c |
20:11.49 | gauner1986 | dcordes: it sends at@bric in libhtc_ril_wrapper |
20:12.02 | gauner1986 | ah i see you already got it |
20:17.46 | dcordes | gauner1986: according to [Rapunzel] llots of extra things must be sent |
20:18.03 | dcordes | the problem is where to look it up |
20:18.13 | gauner1986 | i only know about these three |
20:18.24 | gauner1986 | rest is done by htc ril |
20:19.01 | dcordes | for that I need the htc ril source code |
20:19.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: how about doing logcat -b radio on android or patching tty driver to log that to dmesg? |
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20:19.57 | dcordes | will logcat -b radio dump the entire smd0 traffic ? |
20:20.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, it should dump all ril communication |
20:20.41 | dcordes | when ril talks to the modem it's done via smd0 |
20:20.56 | dcordes | at least for the AT commands |
20:21.13 | dcordes | will it output raw copmmands or some android abstraction ? |
20:21.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | logcat -b radio just shows all AT commands sent to radio and all events received from it. raw text |
20:23.50 | dcordes | perfect |
20:24.13 | dcordes | problem is I don't have android |
20:24.17 | dcordes | bbl |
20:24.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | why don't you install it then? |
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20:35.21 | gauner1986 | man, where's mdeejay when you need him |
20:35.22 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
20:37.11 | [Rapunzel] | he celebrating new year with bears I think :D |
20:56.12 | gauner1986 | hm, yeah.. too many bears |
20:56.14 | gauner1986 | :P |
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21:08.42 | g3rm | hi |
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21:18.58 | gauner1986 | hm, seems there are no competent people in #cyanogenmod |
21:22.06 | fakker | ;] |
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22:42.45 | mes | stinebd, you around? |
22:43.24 | mes | stinebd, I see you dropped a ril on froyo, in hopes of fixing the system-server issue. |
22:44.25 | stinebd | mes: no source code changes in it |
22:44.33 | mes | I have a raph110 that right now has the system-server cock up every boot, it started after a massive inode deletion on a reboot |
22:45.14 | mes | I assume it was the data.img that was changed, but I have no card reader with me right now to have a good look at things |
22:45.45 | Ondalf | bad shutdown on battery-ran-out-in-use causes corruption in Kaiser atleast... |
22:47.08 | mes | whatever the cause I think I have a phone that will always freak the system-server out, in this case it was a hang that needed the reboot |
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