IRC log for #htc-linux on 20110124

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00:05.01tipperIs markinus here?
00:16.21stickman89he was...
00:17.20stickman89Not been any activity from him since 11:50 i believe...
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00:52.40RaiderXanyone here who is good with kernels?
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02:15.24WisTilt2stinebd: got a question about something on userland side when you got a minute.
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02:21.21stinebdWisTilt2: shoot
02:23.29WisTilt2Do you know the function in userland that handles the unlock slider? or what kernel function it calls when you touch it?
02:24.06stinebdkernel function?
02:24.07RaiderXits in framework.jar
02:25.03stinebdWisTilt2: the userspace component is keyguard i think
02:25.24WisTilt2trying to work out this timing problem with display not coming back up unless unlock is touched.  seems that the action key fixes it also.
02:26.32stinebdsome former dev also believed that keyguard was causing battery drain
02:26.44stinebdwho knows what might be going wrong there
02:28.21WisTilt2i havent been in the userland source for so long... guess ill have to dig back in.  everything in the kernel is working correctly as far as bringing panel back up from full collapse, just this issue where display graphics not coming on without touching screen or hitting action key is annoying.
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02:33.23WisTilt2stinebd: keyguard and battery drain?  dont follow.  in sleep that shouldn't be alive should it?
02:33.48stinebdWisTilt2: who knows. whoever it was said disabling the lock screen greatly improved power usage
02:34.45WisTilt2interesting...
02:35.55stinebdok found the source for the lock screen
02:36.18stinebdframeworks/policies/base/phone/com/android/internal/policy/impl/LockScreen.java and related files
02:36.31stinebd(not buried at all :P)
02:37.26WisTilt2thanks, was browsing through the frameworks tree and getting a headache
02:38.11RaiderXlol
02:38.20RaiderXlockscreen wont cause the wakeup lag
02:38.28RaiderXand wont cause any battery drain either
02:39.01stinebdWisTilt2: if you're building images yourself, it could be helpful to define DBG in that file and get some logcat output
02:40.42WisTilt2yeah agree.  got this narrowed down to a timing problem, just need to see the logic flow to figure out what isn't waiting long enough after the power up sequence.
02:41.02stinebdyeah, glancing at the code that might be easier with debugging :/
02:41.14stinebdbecause holy hell
02:41.38stinebdlots of on*() event handlers and no documentation
02:41.53stinebdwho knows what does what when
02:42.01GNUtoo|laptoptorgrimt, hi, any success?
02:42.01WisTilt2got battery drain down to around .5% in full sleep, around 1% with occasional use.  i know there's more to gain also.
02:42.14stinebddo it for raph now :D
02:42.46WisTilt2i want to try my new non-microp autobl code on your raph one of these days also
02:42.59stinebdnon-microp?
02:43.09stinebdkernel thread?
02:43.52WisTilt2yeah, got autobl working perfectly without using microp at all.  still handled by the hardware but just set it up with a lot of tricky register coding now.
02:44.02stinebdah
02:44.04stinebdfun
02:44.14stinebdtricky register coding makes everything less boring
02:44.34stinebdi take it that way you can adjust sensor/backlight levels?
02:44.58WisTilt2tricky because the documentation was written by idiots that forgot to document some of the key parts pertaining to certain registers
02:45.30WisTilt2yes, can set dim up/down rates, minimum/max brightness during autobl, etc.
02:50.14WisTilt2well steelers and packers will duke it out.  jets almost came back there in last quarter
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02:55.29WisTilt2stinebd, do you know the url for the ril tree that actually works?  the one arrrghhh gave me has probs and you cant pull the tree.
02:57.52stinebdWisTilt2: git clone git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-htc-ril.git -b diamond
02:58.58WisTilt2stinebd: you're a wealth of instant info:)  need to buy you dinner if you're ever out this way.
02:59.33stinebd:)
02:59.48stinebdone day soon, i'll be rearranging our whole ridiculous repository layout
03:00.16stinebdi got surprisingly good feedback on the idea via the mailing list
03:01.04WisTilt2going to have one of my radio programmers take a brief look at the ril stuff and can put him on it full time after we finish our project going to certification, then we'll have more time to play with this project.
03:02.47WisTilt2yeah speaking of the list, i tried emailing a comment to your post and got some kind of permission denied to post to the list
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03:05.30stinebdare you subbed?
03:06.32WisTilt2say what?
03:07.00stinebdsubscribed. nevermind, i see that you are
03:07.55WisTilt2yes i receive everything from the posts, your post was first i tried to reply to and got the error
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03:11.14stinebdmind forwarding it to me? i don't see anything interesting in the logs
03:11.28stinebdstinebd@xdandroid.com
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03:16.23WisTilt2stinebd: dont have it on this laptop, ill forward it from office tomorrow
03:16.37WisTilt2dinner, back in about 30
03:16.41stinebdok no rush
03:16.54stinebdi'm gonna hit the pail
03:17.14stinebdenjoy your grub
03:17.19WisTilt2ok thanks for all the info
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05:41.22lilsnoopanyone know what physkeyboard= setting I use for AT&T tilt 2?
05:41.34lilsnoopdo i just put physkeyboard=tilt2
05:41.53lilsnoopor rhod210?
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10:40.00UweRi have installed since 5 minutes the new  ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo.012311 cab on my blackstone ...
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12:42.46pippuzzohi!
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13:56.32gauner1986hi
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13:57.18Curious_hi
13:57.33gauner1986does anybody have an idea how i can find out how frequent files are accessed under linux?
13:58.03Curious_put printf(filename) in everyfile :ÇD
13:58.08Curious_:D
13:58.19gauner1986haha
13:58.21gauner1986:P
13:58.25gauner1986even in textfiles?
13:58.26gauner1986;)
13:58.29Curious_ah
13:58.34Curious_you don't mean code
13:58.40Curious_then i dunno :D
14:08.39arif-aliThis command will tell you which files were changed in the last minute "find / -cmin -1"
14:08.54gauner1986hm ok, thx
14:15.39arif-alior even better, if you just was file accessed in the last minute "find / -type f -amin -1"
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14:23.48gauner1986hm.. there must be a statistic somewhere..
14:23.51gauner1986hey there in the tower
14:23.53gauner1986:P
14:24.17noobhandsfuck you sebastian
14:24.29noobhandsthis is my last week
14:24.29noobhands:D
14:24.30noobhandsat work
14:24.58[Rapunzel]hey
14:26.03gauner1986noobhands: amsterdam afterwards.. thats kinda motivating, no?
14:26.05gauner1986:P
14:26.47noobhandsyea
14:28.44MattOGnot so motivated once he gets there.... just sit... and chill...
14:28.52noobhandsthat's the plan
14:28.58noobhandsdeserve a break from all this bullshit
14:29.09MattOGi got thrown out of smokey's over there
14:29.36MattOGgot a little agitated because my cue kept going through the ball when playing pool
14:29.57MattOGobviously I was slightly mistaken about the actual events that were taking place....
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14:49.34[Rapunzel]heh I found on my computer
14:49.35[Rapunzel]VERSION = 2
14:49.36[Rapunzel]PATCHLEVEL = 6
14:49.36[Rapunzel]SUBLEVEL = 21
14:49.38[Rapunzel]:D
14:55.23gauner1986that's ancient
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14:56.03[Rapunzel]ya
14:58.35[Rapunzel]dcordes ping
15:00.03Curious_rapunzy wazzup
15:00.32[Rapunzel]wanna complain to him about a lot of spam in htc-wiki
15:00.43Curious_he complains too
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15:01.32Curious_what are you dancing with
15:02.08[Rapunzel]heh
15:02.19[Rapunzel]how proximity? ^^
15:02.40Curious_still sucks
15:02.56Curious_i will focus its light and reflect back to it
15:03.05Curious_so that i can burn it ^^:D
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15:05.02plupkeCurious_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwtm50-AALM
15:06.14Curious_gonna check now
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15:10.45stickman89afternoon
15:10.59plupkemorning
15:11.51g3rmhello
15:13.13g3rmstickman89: how far you could get with nand boot on blac?
15:16.48stickman89I had my kids this weekend buddy, so nowhere atm
15:17.36stickman89ex is being a right bitch atm too, aint helping...
15:17.51g3rmsorry to hear that
15:18.15stickman89yeah I know, it actually is making it easier for me to move on... her being a bitch that is
15:18.27g3rm^^
15:18.56stickman89she left me over christmas, yeah I know sucks aye. Nice way of saying Happy f*cking christmas aye.
15:19.11stickman89ahh well, moving on lol
15:20.14stickman89I will take a look at ACL's commits in a mo
15:20.27g3rmtoday I've tried those
15:20.51stickman89just checked xda and understand he's done some work on our board.
15:20.57stickman89ahh right, where are we?
15:21.00g3rmbut all I got was two vibs and "smart mobility" spash screen
15:21.58g3rmand now I think I've messed up something while building nbh
15:23.12stickman89ok so kernel is initializing then, have you check dmesg?
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15:24.52stickman89sorry bout that IRC freaked out on me
15:25.34stickman89sorry didn't get the last msg if any g3rm
15:26.06g3rmno it's ok
15:26.35[Rapunzel]~seen NetRipper
15:26.37aptnetripper is currently on #htc-linux (3d 17h 51m 33s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 1d 17h 12m 2s, last said: 'thanks'.
15:26.44g3rmI didn't get any dmesg :(
15:28.06g3rmprobably never got to the point where dmesg is created
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15:29.21stickman89that sucks
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15:29.28g3rmI need verbose mode - it's hard to tell anything when you don't know what's going on
15:30.04stickman89have you checked out xdmcdmc's nbh yet? I haven't had the time but I would like know if anyone can confirm there getting as far as he claims...
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15:30.27g3rmone guy said he tried and posted his dmesg
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15:30.57g3rmhe got to the same point so I didn't bother trying it
15:31.56g3rmhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10808805&postcount=76
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15:33.39stickman89you noticed RIL's fallen over in the latest rootfs?
15:34.16stickman89well you now have to toggle loudspeaker for the mic and speaker to work in call.
15:34.27stickman89for calls being recieved that is.
15:34.45g3rmyea that sucks
15:34.51stickman89only happened on eclair builds for me in the past, now with the latest rootfs it's happening in froyo also.
15:35.53g3rmfor me that was always random
15:36.19stickman89I made a rootfs based on the previous version with correct key binding's and latest gralloc and ligles mounted via init script, will do it for the latest rootfs now and swapout
15:36.19stickman89the rill and see what I get.
15:36.58stickman89yeah I found that too, seems it was random on eclair builds for me, now its happening all the time without fail.
15:37.50stickman89g3rm you seen MIUI for ARM7 devices yet?
15:37.57g3rmno
15:38.13g3rmI'm not interested in builds for AMR7
15:39.00stickman89yeah lol, anyway the UI is pretty nice but for ARM7 only so were buggered so I'm basically decompiling and modifying an ARM6 launcher to imitate it.
15:39.29stickman89looks great so far...
15:39.58g3rmyou're a busy man :)
15:40.28stickman89yeah I know, It's not helping the stress, should really stop taking onboard so many things.
15:40.48g3rm[acl]: here?
15:41.19stickman89bet my followers on my website are getting pissed of with me inactive :( I dev for the hero too...
15:42.24g3rmso you abandoned hero for now?
15:42.42[acl]im here. sup fellas
15:42.46stickman89for now, I kinda get carried away sometimes :P
15:42.46g3rmhi
15:43.03g3rmone quick question bout blac nand
15:43.38g3rmdid xdmcdmc sent you his patch to fix verbose mode?
15:43.50[acl]who u talkin to ?
15:43.52[acl]moi ?
15:44.00g3rmsry to you ofc
15:44.03stickman89he just diff'd the changes from the linux-msm kernel.
15:44.21g3rmoh
15:44.24stickman89I can check that out in a mo if you'd like and share my findings.
15:44.39stickman89sorry, didn't mean to butt in :(
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15:45.24g3rmnp all I want is to get my hands on that one so I can see what I'm doing
15:45.58stickman89have you made changes to your tinboot.s g3rm?
15:46.31g3rmyea I did
15:47.38stickman89hold on let me go get my dev laptop
15:47.39g3rm[acl]: your latest commits include fix for verbose mode?
15:47.56stickman89as far as I was aware it was commits to fix usb
15:47.58[acl]wtf is verbose mode?
15:48.19[acl]g3rm: never heard of such a mode.. lol.
15:48.47stickman89kernel isn't intialing display, he's asking whether that was fixed for our board.
15:49.17g3rmehh.. i meant boot console display
15:50.16stickman89sorry i may have reffered to it as that g3rm before, that's my bad, been helping alot of people with hackintosh's atm, stuck in the brain :S
15:51.07[acl]sbl enables panel so its not that. I may need to look into the frame buffer to make sure its all good for blac. Now i cant test so i have no idea. but the console itself is enabled on all of our builds
15:51.34[acl]g3rm: you have a build env ready ?
15:51.40[Rapunzel]hey [acl], SPL not SBL :P
15:51.49stickman89I'm good for it acl
15:51.54g3rm[acl]: but it's not showing by default on blac
15:52.01[acl][Rapunzel]: ahh yes.. thanks.. i can always count on you
15:52.08[Rapunzel];)
15:52.13stickman89ofcoarse sorry, framebuffer ffs
15:52.21g3rmxdmcdmc fixed that but he didn't share his patch
15:52.33[acl]g3rm: did you test with my commits from yest ?
15:52.43g3rmyes I did
15:52.52stickman89yeah that's why I had my doubts, he posted some nbh's after but there was no mention from anyone else about working framebuffer
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15:53.06g3rmcan't see console and I can't do dmesg
15:53.18[acl]g3rm: do you hear the vib ?
15:53.22g3rmso I don't know wtf is happening
15:53.28g3rmyes it loads kernel
15:53.29[acl]g3rm: do you hear the vibrations tho ?
15:53.46[acl]g3rm: ok it may be loading but with no panel. So need to dump dmes on the sdcard.
15:54.20g3rmI've tried that by adding lines to froyo.user.conf
15:54.21[acl]g3rm: modify the rootfs to dump the dmesg
15:54.27stickman89g3rm did you set it up properly to dump dmesg
15:54.27g3rmbut no luck
15:54.42stickman89not the conf buddy
15:54.52stickman89damn acl beat me to it :P
15:55.09stickman89I will shut up now lol
15:55.14noobhandsgauner1986:
15:55.16g3rmlol I knew I'm stupid :/
15:55.20noobhandsi think it's time for a sneaky ninja burger king
15:55.21noobhands;]
15:55.22[acl]g3rm: need to get logs bro.. somehow we need it.
15:55.25noobhandspiss these guys off
15:55.37gauner1986noobhands: where's my server? :D
15:55.39[Rapunzel]go out, troll
15:55.58noobhandsgauner1986: Friday
15:56.02gauner1986:D
15:56.05noobhands;]
15:56.16g3rmok I'll try do it properly next time
15:56.38stickman89[Rapunzel] who are you refferring too?
15:56.46noobhandsstickman89: me
15:56.53g3rmbut some time later since I got to go now
15:56.55[acl]g3rm: also i added usb to the board file. So try to adb into the unit after like 10 secs into the boot. If you see adb respond, then boom dump dmesg
15:57.13g3rmsure I'll try that also
15:57.21[Rapunzel]to n00byhands
15:57.26[Rapunzel]:)
15:57.35g3rmthx for your help
15:57.48g3rmI hope I catch you later
15:57.51stickman89going to compile now
15:57.51g3rmbb
15:58.14stickman89later g3rm
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16:02.41stickman89[acl]  you hangin around? I will get some logs over to you shortly if you like.
16:03.14[acl]stickman89: sure.. or just post it on xda since im at work.i cant do much from here
16:05.07stickman89cool will post it on my thread asap.
16:05.37stickman89dw I don't expect you to do anything with it whilst your at work :)
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16:30.53apti haven't seen 'gnutoo|desktop', [Rapunzel]
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18:21.04emwe[acl]: you are on cdma or gsm?
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18:49.32[acl]emwe: cdma.. but i have no service.. :-(
18:49.53emwe[acl]: i can do calls, but no data.
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18:50.27[acl]emwe: odd..  i havent been able to test any of that since i have no service
18:50.52emwe[acl]: data says it's up but nothing going through it. do you by chance have a dmesg (no matter from which kernel) from the start? i need cdma smd_alloc_channel output.
18:51.50emwejust would like to see the smd channel layout of cdma
18:52.47[acl]emwe: not on me. maybe when i get home
18:53.08emwe[acl]: thx. when i am still around then ;)
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18:54.18[Rapunzel]hey Alex
18:54.24Alex[sp3dev]hey
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18:54.32[Rapunzel]h ur exams?
18:54.44Alex[sp3dev]pizdets is coming
18:54.57[Rapunzel]:D
18:54.58Alex[sp3dev]i'm having probability theory and statistics in a week
18:55.11[Rapunzel]oh hate them,
18:55.19Alex[sp3dev]everyone does
18:55.32[Rapunzel]remember how teacher spalil me with text copy from my device :D
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18:55.53Alex[sp3dev]universal is a bit too large to use for cheating
18:57.15[Rapunzel]xperia ?
18:57.18[Rapunzel]or u sold it already
18:58.49Alex[sp3dev]no, still using
18:59.01[Rapunzel]got uni?
18:59.07Alex[sp3dev]of course not
18:59.24[Rapunzel]Alex[sp3dev]universal is a bit too large to use for cheating
18:59.24[Rapunzel]?
18:59.43gauner1986Alex[sp3dev]: keyboard still not broken? :D
18:59.46Alex[sp3dev][Rapunzel]: i have seen it live. but never had it
18:59.59Alex[sp3dev]gauner1986: nope. just the case is cracked everywhere
19:00.29gauner1986Alex[sp3dev]: many keys were not reacting anymore as i gave mine away..
19:00.49[Rapunzel]hm
19:00.52gauner1986or i had to press them really hard
19:01.00gauner1986friend of mine had the same problem
19:02.01Alex[sp3dev]still.. i don't think it's worth changing it. qsd8250 and A8 are getting outdated as A9 emerges. so buying hd2 or sth like would be a waste of money. affordable A9 phones won't appear within a year. i'd better get myself A9 tablet and run ubuntu on it
19:02.17[Rapunzel]heh u think so :P
19:02.34[Rapunzel]A8 A9 they should be same
19:02.36[Rapunzel]almost
19:02.49Alex[sp3dev]except i'm speaking about dual-core A9
19:03.06[Rapunzel]yeah dual core can be more powerful agree
19:03.19[Rapunzel]I am waiting devices on MSM8660
19:03.38Alex[sp3dev]either msm8660 or tegra2. whichever comes first and is cheaper
19:03.46[Rapunzel]tegra sucks for me :)
19:04.07[Rapunzel]8660 is really nice... there around 13 cores
19:04.34Alex[sp3dev]well, according to the already-released devices, tegra2 is probably not very buggy (although gpu is quite modest)..
19:04.49[Rapunzel]dunno I don't like NV in embedded world
19:05.35Jhintahi all , [Q] , wat is needed to port the dhd kernel source to gnulinux?
19:05.37Alex[sp3dev]but they already have GLES driver for X. why not..
19:05.49[Rapunzel]I asked u...
19:05.58[Rapunzel]not tell me this words :D
19:06.37[Rapunzel]so f* snow
19:06.39[Rapunzel]today
19:06.41[Rapunzel]and wind
19:08.10Alex[sp3dev]dunno. it's warm in moscow (well. i suppoze, around zero.) i walked without cap and gloves today
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19:09.32NeoMatrixJRhey [acl], has anyone noticed any graphics glitches with the new rootfs and FRX04?
19:09.39Alex[sp3dev][acl]: ping
19:10.28NeoMatrixJRI take it he's afk?
19:10.32[acl]NeoMatrixJR: FRX4?
19:10.38[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: sup bro.. how goes it
19:11.01NeoMatrixJRhe lives!
19:11.07NeoMatrixJRerr. yeah... frx4
19:11.33Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i have replaced tssc_manager with vanilla msm_ts from 35. have not managed to cause cpu load to jump over 65% even with hard twiddling. and launcher/homescreen seem fast
19:13.03NeoMatrixJRAh! I was right... FRX04. anyways... anyone complain of glitches?  Mine's been running all morning.  It just started flashing "pretty colors" whenever I do something on the screen.
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19:13.36Alex[sp3dev][acl]: on another note, our microp and mmc stuff sucks so hard that i'm rewriting it from scratch for 35. turns out it freezed because of some subtle bug in mmc.c which i have yet to verify
19:14.23NeoMatrixJRand it's only the part of the screen updating (not the whole screen)
19:14.35[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: ahh.. didnt know about that mmc stuff. But i was going to ask you about the smd.c and other rpc related stuff. Do you have any suggestions so we dont have all these if statements in there so we can have all devices use the same code?
19:15.01[acl]NeoMatrixJR: i didnt even know frx4 is out.. i need to check it out..
19:15.27gauner1986dual-core
19:15.27Alex[sp3dev][acl]: sure. i'm going to implement runtime amss detection as a very early call
19:15.28gauner1986<3
19:15.29gauner1986need
19:15.42Alex[sp3dev]gauner1986: that may cause overfap
19:16.19[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: Ok, till then i will just butcher it to continue with the progress :-)
19:16.35NeoMatrixJRyeah. I'm running FRX04 + rootfs w/ your updates + camera test kernel.  froyo.user.conf has had all 3d mount lines removed.  now it's just got the one for the camera library
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19:18.06gauner1986Alex[sp3dev]: overfap?
19:18.18Alex[sp3dev]gauner1986: that's a neologism
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19:18.32gauner1986i see :P
19:18.35[Rapunzel]u can turn one core off
19:18.44[Rapunzel]and live on second
19:18.45Alex[sp3dev]then it will be underfap
19:19.23NeoMatrixJRwouldn't one core just be back to regular fap?
19:19.52Alex[sp3dev]dunno.. depends on the other hardware
19:25.18RaiderXim tryin to get android kernel 2.6.32.21 to 2.6.32.28
19:25.30Alex[sp3dev]lol
19:25.51Alex[sp3dev]doesn't sound like a useful update
19:26.10RaiderXwell its patched about 1000 files
19:26.51RaiderXso no point updating then?
19:28.39Alex[sp3dev]what for if it's working? you could try some more recent version (2.6.35, for example). but actually most of the interesting changes which can potentially increase performance are in 2.6.38 (like removal of big kernel lock). but you'd have to fuck hard to fit leo support and android support there (because qcom and google don't care to write proper code and send it upstream)
19:30.40RaiderXheh
19:30.49RaiderXim workin on Desire HD
19:30.50[Rapunzel]"ó ëèíóêñà äèçàéíà - íîëü. Ñîòíÿ ÷åáóðàøåê ÷åòî êîäÿò è ëîìàþò äðóã äðóãó"
19:30.51RaiderXnot leo kernel
19:31.54Jhintaraidex ,, desire HD?
19:32.03Jhintayour working on a gnukernel?
19:33.13Alex[sp3dev][Rapunzel]: oh yeah. sure. but there are no problems when the stuff is in upstream (like pxa). the thumb rule is - the one who breaks something, fixes everything that depended on the broken part. if you chose to fork the kernel and not collaborate with the main branch - then these are your problems
19:33.28[Rapunzel]Alex, u able to read this?
19:33.31Alex[sp3dev]nope
19:33.38Alex[sp3dev]i'm using 2cyr.cm
19:33.41Alex[sp3dev]s/cm/com
19:33.41[Rapunzel]ohh
19:33.55[Rapunzel]it's not my words ;)
19:34.03[Rapunzel]but I agree with them
19:34.41[Rapunzel]mamaich said this, he as usual tells right things :)
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19:35.26Alex[sp3dev]ok. let's define the interfaces once and for all and stop any development
19:35.45[Rapunzel]why stop development?
19:35.47Alex[sp3dev]or link all the necessary libraries statically to each driver like most wince coders do
19:35.53[Rapunzel]nobody stops u from changing code inside
19:36.19[Rapunzel]u can rewrite whole stuffs inside, but don't touch interfaces!
19:36.40Alex[sp3dev]this is actually wrong. you cannot define a generic interface until you have the proper implementation
19:37.14[Rapunzel]yeah, but it's done and working ;)
19:37.31Alex[sp3dev]stop that, ok? we've had this talk for like 20 times already
19:37.31[Rapunzel]like communications with drivers only via ioctl()
19:37.39[Rapunzel]:D
19:37.49[Rapunzel]u surrender?
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19:39.41Alex[sp3dev]i'm tired of arguing with you. but hey..  if you don't integrate your code upstream, the cost of linux ownership is incredible. but i just like it because it's very good for educational purposes. and i prefer POSIX to win32. and nothing more to it
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19:40.14[Rapunzel]why u prefer POSIX. explain ur point of view
19:40.38[Rapunzel]WaitForMultipleObjects ^^
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19:41.20[Rapunzel]but posix thread also good. won't lie. at least nobody change them.
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19:42.47Alex[sp3dev]but i have to agree that there are a lot of problems. you see, more interfaces are actually becoming stable. but it's just that linux was not heavily used in embedded and especially PDA until some 5 years ago. and some stuff (like power management) just sucks. but it's getting better. on the other hand, stuff like V4L and networking stack are very accurate and clean.
19:44.08Alex[sp3dev]the hugest advantage of POSIX is that it's very simple, compact and portable. and it hasn't changed much in recent 20 years, and is still nice. this is why there are so many unixes like *BSD, Solaris, Linux and what not and the efforts to port applications between them are minimal
19:44.37[Rapunzel]ya some RTOS have posix support
19:44.42[Rapunzel]not full but support
19:44.42Alex[sp3dev]on another note. maybe winapi is not bad as is. it is just patented and not open-source which allows you to only use it on windows..
19:46.59[Rapunzel]ya
19:47.15[Rapunzel]but it rather good designed
19:47.47dcordeshi
19:48.17Alex[sp3dev]just please don't start holywars. it is not productive. usually idiots argue and troll on forums. writing code is better than figthing. (fighting inside linux community is actually the major cause of slow development)
19:50.47[Rapunzel]hey dcordes
19:50.53[Rapunzel]how is xleo_drv.so?
19:50.57[Rapunzel]^^
19:51.24dcordesdid not try yet. I am trying to tackle the radio init on magldr bootup
19:51.39Alex[sp3dev]dcordes: hi. about ubuntu. how do you handle stuff like disabling rfkills, controlling modem power (ril) and so on? got some daemon and ui for that?
19:51.51[Rapunzel]"the major cause of slow development" -> version X: MyFooFunction, version Y: FooMyFunction. it's the real case of slow development!
19:52.02dcordesI fear I have to compile xleo_drv.so myself in order to match Xorg version
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19:54.19dcordes[Rapunzel]: any way to check if radio is in good state except dialing and seeing it softreset ?
19:54.53dcordesAlex[sp3dev]: what modem power =?
19:55.13dcordesthere is patched ofono with sphone program from Amipro
19:55.26dcordesfor calling (no audio) and texting
19:55.29dcordesit is in the wiki
19:55.36Alex[sp3dev]dcordes: ok. and about bluetooth and wifi. does UI allow you to turn rfk off?
19:55.59[Rapunzel]dcordes, I can upload sources
19:56.11dcordesI didn't try bt cause I don't need it and never woprried about wifi rfk
19:56.16dcordeswifi works ootb
19:56.37dcordes[Rapunzel]: that would be nice
19:56.58dcordes[Rapunzel]: I didn't get to pull your full kernel tree yet
19:57.40[Rapunzel]I will push it too same tree in additional folder
19:58.06dcordesperfect
19:58.16dcordesthx
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19:59.13[Rapunzel]or I am so lazy
19:59.24[Rapunzel]I will upload it to my LEO folder on site :)
19:59.42dcordeshm something is fishy with radio init
19:59.48dcordesok
20:00.05dcordesI send the 3 commands but data won't come up
20:00.22dcordesI do not get the freete though
20:00.24dcordesz
20:00.34dcordesno softreset on dial after commands sent
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20:02.24dcordesAT@BRIC=0 AT+CFUN=0 AT+COPS=2
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20:02.56[Rapunzel]http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Meego/xleo_MEEGO.rar
20:02.57dcordesdo windoze/android send extra commands before they can dial ?
20:03.09[Rapunzel]yeah a lot of different commands
20:03.27dcordesok then it's expected
20:03.56dcordesbecuase I never ran any of these data dial scripts w/o  wm init
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20:07.06dcordeswhere is the ril code portion that does the bootup init ?
20:07.23[Rapunzel]some git with leo libraries
20:07.51dcordeslibhtc_ril_wrapper.c
20:11.49gauner1986dcordes: it sends at@bric in libhtc_ril_wrapper
20:12.02gauner1986ah i see you already got it
20:17.46dcordesgauner1986: according to [Rapunzel] llots of extra things must be sent
20:18.03dcordesthe problem is where to look it up
20:18.13gauner1986i only know about these three
20:18.24gauner1986rest is done by htc ril
20:19.01dcordesfor that I need the htc ril source code
20:19.06Alex[sp3dev]dcordes: how about doing logcat -b radio on android or patching tty driver to log that to dmesg?
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20:19.57dcordeswill logcat -b radio dump the entire smd0 traffic ?
20:20.10Alex[sp3dev]no, it should dump all ril communication
20:20.41dcordeswhen ril talks to the modem it's done via smd0
20:20.56dcordesat least for the AT commands
20:21.13dcordeswill it output raw copmmands or some android abstraction ?
20:21.22Alex[sp3dev]logcat -b radio just shows all AT commands sent to radio and all events received from it. raw text
20:23.50dcordesperfect
20:24.13dcordesproblem is I don't have android
20:24.17dcordesbbl
20:24.32Alex[sp3dev]why don't you install it then?
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20:35.21gauner1986man, where's mdeejay when you need him
20:35.22gauner1986^^
20:37.11[Rapunzel]he celebrating new year with bears  I think :D
20:56.12gauner1986hm, yeah.. too many bears
20:56.14gauner1986:P
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22:42.45messtinebd, you around?
22:43.24messtinebd, I see you dropped a ril on froyo, in hopes of fixing the system-server issue.
22:44.25stinebdmes: no source code changes in it
22:44.33mesI have a raph110 that right now has the system-server cock up every boot, it started after a massive inode deletion on a reboot
22:45.14mesI assume it was the data.img that was changed, but I have no card reader with me right now to have a good look at things
22:45.45Ondalfbad shutdown on battery-ran-out-in-use causes corruption in Kaiser atleast...
22:47.08meswhatever the cause I think I have a phone that will always freak the system-server out, in this case it was a hang that needed the reboot
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