| 00:01.27 | smoku | phh, IIRC PVR is tile based, and geForce is not |
| 00:01.54 | phh | smoku: I meant only performance-wise |
| 00:02.04 | smoku | oh :) |
| 00:04.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn.. i hate the developers of linux network.. no other subsystem gets rewritten from scratch so often.. if you take, say, framebuffer driver or input driver from an old kernel, it either compiles as is or requires few changes.. but network api breaks just about every release. awesome |
| 00:06.10 | fakker | Alex[sp3dev], tegra2 rocks |
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| 00:06.23 | Amander | BazGee |
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| 00:06.58 | BazGee | yes |
| 00:08.48 | fakker | Alex[sp3dev], there's a few in EU - Germany/Netherlands have got POV Mobii (they're the places i've read of having it) in UK we got Advent Vega |
| 00:08.52 | fakker | same device |
| 00:09.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | lucky bastards |
| 00:09.08 | fakker | it's stupid fast |
| 00:09.11 | fakker | i got one bro |
| 00:09.25 | fakker | hdmi out |
| 00:09.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | who cares for hdmi |
| 00:09.35 | fakker | me |
| 00:09.51 | [Rapunzel] | no |
| 00:09.56 | [Rapunzel] | missing documentation |
| 00:09.59 | [Rapunzel] | awful code |
| 00:10.03 | [Rapunzel] | awful system design |
| 00:10.11 | fakker | i don't care about that shit |
| 00:10.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah. their code is scary |
| 00:10.16 | [Rapunzel] | like no user space drivers in linux |
| 00:10.19 | fakker | if i can see my stuff on TV, i'm happy |
| 00:10.22 | [Rapunzel] | it sucks |
| 00:10.50 | fakker | what do you know?! |
| 00:10.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Rapunzel]: O RLY? NO USERSPACE? there's even support for userspace interrupts |
| 00:10.54 | fakker | :p |
| 00:12.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: have reverted to stock msm_ts from 35 (the one without autocalib and quirks).. seems like cpu usage has dropped. at least i have not managed to make it more than 65%.. which is rather a good result |
| 00:12.35 | [Rapunzel] | no |
| 00:12.39 | [Rapunzel] | who need user space interrupts |
| 00:12.57 | [Rapunzel] | what about using IOCTL fro user mode drivers? |
| 00:13.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's the problem with ioctls? |
| 00:13.18 | [Rapunzel] | so I can open / ioctl / close such device |
| 00:13.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can |
| 00:13.34 | [Rapunzel] | how? |
| 00:13.55 | [Rapunzel] | as well suck fucked drivers like msm_fb |
| 00:13.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | uhm.. grep it ;). even qualcomm uses ioctls in their camera library |
| 00:14.13 | [Rapunzel] | they use ioctl to kernel driver |
| 00:14.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | and who fucked msm_fb? it was qcom, right? |
| 00:14.14 | [Rapunzel] | I am sure |
| 00:14.18 | [Rapunzel] | I mean |
| 00:14.26 | phh | [Rapunzel]: and still, camera driver is userland. |
| 00:14.36 | [Rapunzel] | user space program -> ioctl -> user space driver |
| 00:14.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's the problem again? |
| 00:14.58 | [Rapunzel] | how to implement this? |
| 00:15.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | using ioctl syscall? |
| 00:15.50 | [Rapunzel] | dunno I don't find examples |
| 00:16.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'll try to find one.. and i can bet that 'Advanced Programming in Unix environment' should have one |
| 00:16.38 | [Rapunzel] | try... |
| 00:17.10 | [Rapunzel] | in kernel u register sysfs item |
| 00:18.56 | [Rapunzel] | I need register such object from userspace |
| 00:23.37 | [Rapunzel] | lol |
| 00:23.38 | [Rapunzel] | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2010-July/001824.html |
| 00:25.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | this has been available for quite a while.. but generally the code that is designed solely to support proprietary userspace libraries is never accepted to mainline |
| 00:25.31 | [Rapunzel] | yeah |
| 00:25.54 | [Rapunzel] | but it's nice. because no body allow them linuxing code |
| 00:26.15 | [Rapunzel] | I cleared shit from msm_fb for 2.5 hours |
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| 00:27.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | some days ago the V4L maintainers NAKed qcom camera patch. they've agreed that the driver will be accepted if it will allow to get some picture (even of poor quality, without proprietary image processing algorithms) without userspace library. qcom developers said that they'd love to do so, but it will depend on the decision of their lawyers |
| 00:27.42 | [Rapunzel] | anyway |
| 00:27.44 | [Rapunzel] | did u found |
| 00:27.49 | [Rapunzel] | about user space drivers |
| 00:27.51 | [Rapunzel] | with IOCTL |
| 00:28.17 | [Rapunzel] | ? |
| 00:28.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | nope. seems like you can't install an ioctl handler from userspace.. although i should say it's not needed because in userspace you can have more advanced IPC solutions like signals, sockets, dbus etc |
| 00:28.44 | [Rapunzel] | heh |
| 00:28.48 | [Rapunzel] | I though so |
| 00:28.51 | [Rapunzel] | it sucks |
| 00:29.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | but why ioctl when there are signals and sockets? |
| 00:29.05 | [Rapunzel] | IPC is too complex |
| 00:29.13 | [Rapunzel] | IOCTL it's simple solution |
| 00:29.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can use signals.. |
| 00:29.48 | [Rapunzel] | I have in different processes shared libraries, and I need use own manager for handling actual stuffs. |
| 00:30.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can install the handler for SIGUSR1 or SIGUSR2 in your daemon. then, you can send the USR1 signal to the daemon and pass your ioctl and, say, pointer to the data via the signal argument |
| 00:30.49 | [Rapunzel] | hm |
| 00:31.22 | [Rapunzel] | seems better move stuffs to kernel |
| 00:31.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | what actually do you want to do? |
| 00:31.54 | [Rapunzel] | need output buffers to screen |
| 00:32.18 | [Rapunzel] | also I though I can use exa from X11 to manage framebuffer memory, but they are also in other process |
| 00:32.22 | [Rapunzel] | stupid :( |
| 00:32.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | are you implementing opengl? |
| 00:32.58 | [Rapunzel] | ya |
| 00:33.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | did you take a look at mesa then? |
| 00:33.24 | [Rapunzel] | ya. mesa needs DRI from X11 |
| 00:33.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 00:34.03 | [Rapunzel] | new kgsl have some dri support, but I don't think it can be used for 3D |
| 00:34.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | aren't qcom going to release opengl for chromium tablets? or they'll be using adreno300 or newer then? |
| 00:35.09 | [Rapunzel] | I think only new... |
| 00:35.15 | [Rapunzel] | but they can be compatible also |
| 00:36.54 | [Rapunzel] | anyway meego is buggy and unfinished yet |
| 00:37.05 | [Rapunzel] | and the main thing which is really funny |
| 00:37.11 | [Rapunzel] | NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING :D |
| 00:39.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok. i'm going to bed ;) |
| 00:39.28 | [Rapunzel] | heh |
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| 00:39.35 | [Rapunzel] | +1 to epic fail |
| 00:39.36 | [Rapunzel] | LD |
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| 02:31.27 | fakker | fu gauner1986 |
| 02:32.10 | gauner1986 | how was the party fakker? |
| 02:32.25 | fakker | what party? |
| 02:32.27 | fakker | i played pool |
| 02:32.35 | fakker | and ate mexican food |
| 02:32.51 | gauner1986 | also nice |
| 02:33.10 | gauner1986 | i never ate mexican food :P |
| 02:33.17 | fakker | ;] |
| 02:33.18 | fakker | it's nice |
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| 02:51.53 | arrrghhh | yo! |
| 02:51.59 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, how you doin |
| 02:52.34 | WisTilt2 | hey there arrrghhh, as my son always says - C'mon! |
| 02:54.50 | arrrghhh | ha |
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| 02:56.02 | WisTilt2 | im fine tuning the delay for panel power up so the touch unlock is no longer issue so if you want to try a test kernel in a bit ill put it up. |
| 02:56.36 | stinebd | WisTilt2: please test the new rootfs and see if it has any effect on system_server |
| 02:56.40 | stinebd | also hi |
| 02:56.49 | WisTilt2 | hey stinebd |
| 02:57.28 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, ready when you are |
| 02:58.44 | WisTilt2 | stinebd will do. i added some low level hooks to a couple buttons that might aid in tracing that sod hanging the system also. now i just need to get it to happen so i can see if the hooks work:) |
| 02:59.18 | arrrghhh | "Android want us to connect as GSM while we are a CDMA phone !" - i see that in the logcat -b radio lol |
| 03:02.37 | stinebd | WisTilt2: arrrghhh says system_server is unaffected so expect the same behavior |
| 03:03.01 | arrrghhh | yup, complete a call and it clears up. |
| 03:03.16 | arrrghhh | i'm seeing a lot of GSM messages in my logcat -b radio... seems wrong to me. |
| 03:06.59 | arrrghhh | well i can see that it's not requesting the correct command when it tries to get my location based on cell-towers... |
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| 03:10.10 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, these mdp_dma: busy and mdp_irq already on 4 4 - i think acl just said ignore them but there's a boatload in my dmesg - what are they? |
| 03:13.17 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: same problem. turned on netloc and still got pegged cpu 3 boots in a row. |
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| 03:14.34 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: i never looked at that but wondered the same thing. see it numerous times in a row sometimes, usually only 4 times though. |
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| 03:34.13 | arrrghhh | hrm... ok |
| 03:34.47 | arrrghhh | well whenever your radio guy gets some free time, i have some great RIL logs for him to look at! |
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| 03:47.26 | WisTilt2 | F22 you around? |
| 03:48.01 | F22 | what's up WisTilt? |
| 03:48.50 | WisTilt2 | hey, when you made those kbd layout changes did the underscore and ! get removed possibly? they no longer work i just noticed. |
| 03:49.12 | F22 | you're using my rootfs? |
| 03:49.41 | WisTilt2 | no actually now that you say that, i just changed to stinebd's latest one to test |
| 03:49.46 | F22 | my changes haven't been committed yet. |
| 03:49.56 | arrrghhh | so on his latest the _ and ! don't work? |
| 03:50.00 | arrrghhh | lol let me try |
| 03:50.07 | WisTilt2 | im pretty sure it worked the other day so maybe its that rootfs |
| 03:50.38 | F22 | tilt2 kbd is different arrrghhh. no number row. |
| 03:51.25 | arrrghhh | really? |
| 03:51.30 | arrrghhh | sadface |
| 03:51.45 | arrrghhh | is it still 5-row...? |
| 03:52.00 | F22 | yep, still 5 row. |
| 03:52.05 | arrrghhh | weird! |
| 03:52.24 | F22 | at&t prefer to superimpose a numpad over the letters. |
| 03:52.31 | F22 | rather then have a dedicated number row. |
| 03:52.33 | arrrghhh | my mogul had that |
| 03:52.37 | arrrghhh | i like the dedicated row |
| 03:52.50 | arrrghhh | seems no new phones have a dedicated row |
| 03:53.13 | F22 | none of the android phones do, they only have 4 rows. |
| 03:53.27 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 03:53.30 | F22 | i think the new htc win7 phone will have 5 rows. |
| 03:53.41 | arrrghhh | hence the reason this port must be completed :P |
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| 04:20.33 | NeoMatrixJR | Really? I liked the numpad overlay better. Seemed more natural dialing to me. |
| 04:20.45 | NeoMatrixJR | ~seen glemsom |
| 04:20.48 | apt | glemsom <~glemsom@0x5da34bca.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 70d 10h 55m 23s ago, saying: 'Sweet! :P''. |
| 04:21.06 | arrrghhh | i saw him join the other day in the logs, but didn't say anything :/ |
| 04:21.21 | NeoMatrixJR | must not have been this channel. |
| 04:21.33 | arrrghhh | that just shows the last thing you said methinks |
| 04:21.43 | NeoMatrixJR | ah. |
| 04:21.54 | NeoMatrixJR | I'm just wondering if he's still planning on bringing his auto-build back online. |
| 04:22.10 | NeoMatrixJR | not that it matters to me at the moment. I'm running the camera build |
| 04:22.11 | arrrghhh | yea... i didn't think it would be down this long. |
| 04:22.23 | arrrghhh | did you see zoom works? |
| 04:22.37 | arrrghhh | jerome is a madman. |
| 04:23.27 | NeoMatrixJR | saw the post. haven't tried it yet. |
| 04:23.43 | NeoMatrixJR | just cleared my test card and upped it to FRX04 |
| 04:24.18 | arrrghhh | yea and a commit that will make DIAM users happy. one guy said his battery is now acting all wacky... |
| 04:24.19 | NeoMatrixJR | not sure if I grabbed yesterday's rootfs or todays :( I'll have to check that later |
| 04:24.23 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 04:24.37 | arrrghhh | today's didn't really seem to make any difference unfortunately. |
| 04:24.46 | NeoMatrixJR | :'( |
| 04:24.51 | arrrghhh | yea. |
| 04:31.35 | NeoMatrixJR | I was hoping to catch bzo sometime. I know he gave up on BT until .35 but I was wondering if he ever got the init figured out at least.... |
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| 05:37.50 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: haven't forgotten you, just working out some other timing issues in the panel. |
| 05:48.08 | arrrghhh | ha no worries dude. i think i'm going to hit the sack, i'll check the logs in the morning. if you say there's something to grab & it's good enough to throw up for testing, i'll bump my threads with the newest test kernel. |
| 05:48.16 | arrrghhh | anything else you're workin on other than the touch to wake bug? |
| 05:49.03 | WisTilt2 | wake bug and some additional power saving areas in panel |
| 05:49.13 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 05:49.41 | arrrghhh | well let the room how it goes, i'll read it eventually ;) |
| 05:49.49 | arrrghhh | take it easy man |
| 05:50.00 | WisTilt2 | will do, catch ya tomorrow, nite |
| 05:54.49 | NeoMatrixJR | Hey WisTilt2, what ever happened with the button LEDs I tested for you long ago? |
| 05:56.19 | WisTilt2 | on back burner. finished the kbd backlight first since it seemed to be the most requested fix needed. button leds will probably be next after i commit this panel collapse. |
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| 12:18.17 | dcordes-lib | bbl |
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| 12:34.45 | cidhed | Anyone alive? |
| 12:44.25 | plupke | a better question would be: anybody around. a simple look out the window would prove ppl beside you being alive. lol |
| 12:45.52 | cidhed | Sorry, lol. |
| 12:46.09 | cidhed | It is 6am here so it looks like a zombie town. |
| 12:46.17 | cidhed | I could be the only one left. |
| 12:46.40 | plupke | judgement day happend? lol |
| 12:47.47 | cidhed | George Romero's prophecies have come true! |
| 12:48.19 | cidhed | I am actually looking for kernel source for cm7 on the hd2. |
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| 12:48.58 | cidhed | I am attempting to get wifi calling working and that seems to be my hangup. |
| 12:50.12 | plupke | would you happen to be using channel 12 or 13? |
| 12:50.36 | cidhed | Wifi channel? |
| 12:50.39 | plupke | yep |
| 12:52.37 | cidhed | I haven't checked. Just for clarification I am talking about Tmobile Wifi Calling. Not the UMA that is part of GB. |
| 12:53.20 | cidhed | The issue is I don't have an hd2 and can only test on it during the week. |
| 12:54.42 | plupke | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel take a peek here |
| 12:55.04 | plupke | the google git link should be somewhere on that site |
| 12:55.21 | plupke | i ahve seen it just to sleepy to remember where |
| 12:56.52 | cidhed | I will look around. I looked there earlier and all I saw was EVO based stuff. I remember seeing nexus one based kernels for the HD2 and was hoping to go that route as wifi calling is working on the nexus one. I will see what I can do with the EVO kernels though. |
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| 12:57.17 | plupke | hd2 is there 2 |
| 12:57.19 | Rajko | cidhed, hd2 uses its own kernel |
| 12:57.24 | Rajko | dont have an EVO version |
| 12:57.34 | Rajko | i mean CM version |
| 12:57.38 | Rajko | the EVO based kernel is the best one |
| 12:57.48 | plupke | morning Rajko |
| 12:58.15 | Rajko | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_on_wince_htc |
| 12:59.15 | cidhed | I meant based on evo/n1 not the actually evo/n1 kernel. |
| 12:59.42 | cidhed | Thanks for the link. I will get to work. |
| 12:59.53 | plupke | good luck |
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| 13:35.06 | gauner1986 | hi guys |
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| 13:46.36 | Rajko | how calculate CMRR of ideal opamp |
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| 16:45.35 | darkstone | hey guys |
| 16:46.06 | darkstone | is rmnet working as good as nand+magldr builds on non-magldr builds? |
| 16:46.08 | Cotulla | hey |
| 16:46.13 | darkstone | or does magldr have some fix? |
| 16:46.13 | amander | darkstone.. |
| 16:46.24 | Cotulla | how are u? |
| 16:46.33 | darkstone | im ok, how are you Cotulla? |
| 16:46.39 | darkstone | hi nikole |
| 16:46.43 | nikole | o hi |
| 16:46.50 | Cotulla | me too seems |
| 16:46.56 | darkstone | good :) |
| 16:47.02 | Cotulla | suspended meego development because it's fucking buggy |
| 16:47.06 | darkstone | haha |
| 16:47.23 | Cotulla | what u mean about rment? |
| 16:47.27 | darkstone | framebuffer problems? |
| 16:47.53 | darkstone | Cotulla: using haret.exe based build, we need to set mtu to 700 for stable rmnet |
| 16:48.00 | darkstone | in magldr, it seems this is not needed |
| 16:48.17 | darkstone | but mtu 700 is slow :( |
| 16:48.20 | Cotulla | using haret u won't ever got stable rmnet... |
| 16:48.24 | Cotulla | upload always sucks |
| 16:48.29 | darkstone | ok |
| 16:48.45 | Cotulla | ppl still using haret? ;) |
| 16:48.53 | darkstone | :) i need to |
| 16:48.56 | darkstone | need windows mobile |
| 16:49.00 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 16:49.05 | Cotulla | I am developing SD based one |
| 16:49.06 | Cotulla | :P |
| 16:49.36 | darkstone | nice :) |
| 16:49.52 | nikole | 3 |
| 16:49.58 | Cotulla | are u cooking something now? |
| 16:51.42 | darkstone | nothing new.... yet |
| 16:51.43 | darkstone | :p |
| 16:54.56 | Amander | he's cookin a pie |
| 16:55.31 | imilka | pies suck |
| 16:55.32 | imilka | :P |
| 16:55.44 | imilka | cook sth else |
| 16:55.54 | Amander | <~Pie> well tell imilka he sucks |
| 17:16.19 | Cotulla | anybody with nexus here? AD2.2.1 or AD2.3 installed? |
| 17:16.23 | Cotulla | stock, not custom |
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| 17:58.11 | tyween | i am trying to make my own cyanogenmod 7 based build for nand.. gps works but using wifi location always results in this error: |
| 17:58.13 | tyween | D/WifiService( 184): acquireWifiLockLocked: WifiLock{NetworkLocation type=2 binder=android.os.BinderProxy@4069b4b8} |
| 17:58.24 | tyween | what files are related to wifi location besides possibly the firmware? |
| 17:58.39 | tyween | btw wifi works fine for data transfer, just not location |
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| 19:02.09 | dcordes | cout: maybe ask in #android-root ? |
| 19:02.13 | dcordes | Cotulla: |
| 19:02.39 | Cotulla | hello |
| 19:02.50 | Cotulla | how are u? |
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| 19:26.21 | Cotulla | dcordes ping |
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| 19:40.56 | Microang | Hey cotulla I was just wondering if you could have a look at this and tell me if it would be possible with magldr and or what needs to be done... thanks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917960 |
| 19:43.32 | Cotulla | I tell u yesterday that it's not very possible for now. only with development "special" rom :) |
| 19:44.27 | crawling | hey Cotulla! hows the support for recovery in magldr? just wondering |
| 19:44.36 | Cotulla | works. |
| 19:44.49 | Cotulla | but without recovery-reboot from android. |
| 19:44.56 | Cotulla | with menu item "AD Recovery" |
| 19:45.47 | crawling | the recovery files are stored in nand right ? |
| 19:45.52 | Cotulla | yes |
| 19:45.55 | crawling | cool |
| 19:46.04 | Cotulla | I added support for raw-boot img like google one |
| 19:46.39 | crawling | nice :) any eta for the release? i have time, dont have my phone atm ^^ |
| 19:46.57 | Microang | sorry I wasn't here when you said... :( Would a special ROM be possible to develope by third party or would it have to be a cotulla special? Btw that Windows Mobile SD you talked about will that be for WP7 too? |
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| 19:47.03 | dcordes | Cotulla: how about reading cmdline from file if file is present ? |
| 19:47.46 | Cotulla | raw-boot allow to specify cmd line (google native format) output from mkbootimg. |
| 19:47.54 | Cotulla | startup.txt parser... not done yet |
| 19:47.57 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 19:48.01 | dcordes | Cotulla: awesome |
| 19:48.14 | dcordes | Cotulla: so it will also be possible for SD boot ? |
| 19:48.41 | Cotulla | I have some results with XLEO driver however... u may try if u want |
| 19:48.47 | Cotulla | but there much more problems appear |
| 19:54.05 | Cotulla | it should work in ubuntu also in theory |
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| 19:56.27 | dcordes | Cotulla: it would be nice to try |
| 19:56.42 | Cotulla | but evo kernel doesn't support host... it can be problem |
| 19:57.01 | Cotulla | other problems - DRI not supported in 2.6.32 kernel |
| 19:57.19 | Cotulla | but NEON and MDP accelerations are works |
| 19:57.33 | Cotulla | dunno how much faster is it |
| 19:58.57 | Cotulla | as well caching problems |
| 20:02.21 | dcordes | Cotulla: don't worry. I will patch the old usb stack into evo so I can use usbeth (ssh) as well as host |
| 20:02.28 | dcordes | it is my aim anyway. just pulled |
| 20:03.00 | Cotulla | anyway I suspend meego development. it's too buggy :( |
| 20:03.06 | dcordes | hmm I thought evo is newer |
| 20:03.09 | dcordes | VERSION = 2 |
| 20:03.09 | dcordes | PATCHLEVEL = 6 |
| 20:03.09 | dcordes | SUBLEVEL = 32 |
| 20:03.09 | dcordes | EXTRAVERSION = .15 |
| 20:03.09 | dcordes | NAME = Man-Eating Seals of Antiquity |
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| 20:12.33 | dcordes | Markinus: how about moving to newer kernel :) ? |
| 20:13.20 | Markinus | dcordes: I did already a try with cm .35 |
| 20:13.30 | Markinus | but there seems to be a problem with mmu |
| 20:13.43 | Markinus | dcordes: device crashing on mmu init |
| 20:13.48 | Cotulla | dcordes, what about developing? not f* with versions? |
| 20:14.23 | gauner1986 | developing what? |
| 20:14.24 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 20:15.52 | Cotulla | something awful |
| 20:15.59 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 20:16.02 | gauner1986 | 720p recording? |
| 20:16.19 | Cotulla | more awful. one look - and u stone. |
| 20:18.35 | gauner1986 | yeah, meego. i know.. :P |
| 20:18.42 | Cotulla | no |
| 20:18.48 | Cotulla | meego abandoned |
| 20:18.49 | Cotulla | :) |
| 20:18.51 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 20:18.59 | gauner1986 | 720p is the last feature missing |
| 20:20.12 | Cotulla | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10832587&postcount=120 |
| 20:20.12 | Cotulla | :P |
| 20:20.28 | Cotulla | 720p? |
| 20:22.18 | imilka | what do u think about this btw? |
| 20:22.19 | imilka | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10732496&postcount=143 |
| 20:22.24 | imilka | he says there's two types of LCD |
| 20:22.40 | imilka | and it lags on wakeup on one, and doesn't lag on another |
| 20:22.43 | imilka | lol |
| 20:22.57 | Cotulla | it's somekind of truth |
| 20:23.24 | Cotulla | AUO and SHARP |
| 20:24.40 | imilka | so can sth be changed to remove this lag, or it's just hardware problem? :) |
| 20:24.56 | Cotulla | something can be changed... |
| 20:25.24 | dcordes | Cotulla: 20:57 < Cotulla> other problems - DRI not supported in 2.6.32 kernel |
| 20:26.04 | gauner1986 | cotulla: yeah, recording.. eyecandy.. need :) |
| 20:26.29 | Cotulla | dcordes, there DRI assume only AGP/PCI GPU |
| 20:26.40 | Cotulla | codeaurora have patch to add support |
| 20:27.53 | dcordes | Cotulla: do you have a link to the patch ? |
| 20:28.12 | Cotulla | wait |
| 20:28.24 | dcordes | thx |
| 20:29.19 | Cotulla | http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org/msg00447.html |
| 20:29.23 | Cotulla | this probably |
| 20:30.30 | dcordes | Markinus: what about qualcomm (codeaurora) kernel then ? ;) |
| 20:30.55 | Markinus | dcordes: CA kernel is bad |
| 20:31.04 | Markinus | dcordes: it's full chaos |
| 20:31.22 | Markinus | dcordes: I looked there to .35 too |
| 20:31.28 | dcordes | Markinus: the code that is merged in mainline can't have more chaos than any of our branches ! |
| 20:31.31 | Markinus | dcordes: bit they removed some 8250 code |
| 20:31.42 | Markinus | dcordes: so you have to merge by hand . . |
| 20:32.18 | Cotulla | dcordes, evo tree was tested by HTC |
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| 20:32.24 | Cotulla | it's important |
| 20:32.32 | Markinus | it seems they heve there much for msmXXXX chips, |
| 20:32.55 | Markinus | yeah, I would wait till HTC release .35 code |
| 20:34.21 | Jhinta | hi all , i like to know wat is needed to boot native ubuntu on a dhd , every boot command i give is not working |
| 20:34.30 | Jhinta | phone desire hd btw |
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| 20:49.02 | dcordes | Jhinta: native ubuntu ? dhd ? what boot command ? |
| 20:51.00 | FsTluxe | zahbies, is t already known why the i2c erro occures.. is it a hardware of of software thing? on the leo |
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| 20:53.54 | stickman89 | hello people :D |
| 20:54.13 | Cotulla | we not people, we dirty geeks :D |
| 20:54.52 | dcordes | FsTluxe: what i2c error ? |
| 20:54.54 | stickman89 | haha alright cotulla :D I'll join ya then |
| 20:55.41 | stickman89 | minus the dirtyness! |
| 20:55.53 | FsTluxe | dcordes, YES <3>[16052.471527] msm_i2c msm_i2c.0: error, status c8 (5C) |
| 20:57.31 | dcordes | Markinus: do you think it will be trivial to add basic leo support (mm, fb..) in codeaurora ? |
| 20:57.57 | dcordes | i.e. what's in vanilla kernel already |
| 20:58.14 | Markinus | dcordes: I have it here |
| 20:58.16 | Markinus | in .32 |
| 20:58.43 | Markinus | dcordes: but I did not all stuff, because it'S the linux shit, that every tree is deifferent |
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| 21:02.39 | stickman89 | you can tell Im bored lol |
| 21:03.31 | Cotulla | dcordes, never saw anything trivial in the linux.... |
| 21:05.14 | dcordes | Markinus: I think it should be regarded relatively to mainline .. |
| 21:05.40 | dcordes | Markinus: i.e. everything HTC, google, friends (=> we) use is different from mainline |
| 21:05.52 | Markinus | yeah, and I hate it |
| 21:06.06 | Markinus | I will look what I have for CA |
| 21:06.12 | Markinus | then I get give it you |
| 21:06.20 | Markinus | *can |
| 21:06.49 | dcordes | that would be nice. I'm wondering specifically about the latest state that is merged with mainline |
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| 21:11.03 | Cotulla | ya it's why I like CE: binary interfaces not changed by years :P |
| 21:11.17 | dcordes | pukes |
| 21:11.52 | Cotulla | haha\ |
| 21:12.04 | dcordes | like gauner1986's granny don't change her socks for years ? |
| 21:12.14 | Cotulla | no, u not right ;) |
| 21:12.20 | Cotulla | develoeprs can develop something |
| 21:12.29 | Cotulla | not mess with incompatible interfaces |
| 21:12.45 | Cotulla | I don't know that u prefer: fix i2c or port 32->35 |
| 21:12.49 | Cotulla | but I prefer fix i2c |
| 21:12.50 | Cotulla | :) |
| 21:12.56 | dcordes | then we can also close universities |
| 21:13.02 | gauner1986 | dcordes: actually she sells socks.. and they're nice and warm :P |
| 21:13.06 | dcordes | and remove computer science |
| 21:13.14 | Cotulla | no, it's not related |
| 21:13.36 | Cotulla | nobody tell u that inside CE implementation same for years. but _external_ interfaces are same. |
| 21:14.27 | Cotulla | so if I use function MyFooFuncion() I am sure that it will present in next release and I will only recompile code. |
| 21:14.48 | Cotulla | In linux I will search for same function in new version of kernel/library/etc |
| 21:15.09 | Cotulla | and it can be called FooMyFunction() |
| 21:16.33 | ali1234 | release the code and let someone else fix it |
| 21:16.42 | ali1234 | or don't use linux |
| 21:16.46 | ali1234 | or put up with it |
| 21:17.21 | ali1234 | in fact the linux system call interface is backwards compatible pretty much all the way back to 2.0 |
| 21:17.33 | Cotulla | heh. "release the code and let someone else to broke it" |
| 21:17.41 | Cotulla | it means 90% this |
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| 21:18.30 | ali1234 | hmm so why does any version of the kernel since we upstreamed the patches work out of the box, yet msm where you never upstream anything is still a complete mess? |
| 21:18.45 | ali1234 | *out of the box on omap |
| 21:19.23 | Cotulla | I mean kernel drivers at first point |
| 21:19.36 | ali1234 | so do i |
| 21:19.50 | Cotulla | as well |
| 21:19.57 | Cotulla | no logic in whole drivers sturcture |
| 21:20.09 | Cotulla | no logic in code flow |
| 21:20.14 | ali1234 | if you have any omap730 or omap850 phone you can boot a vanilla kernel |
| 21:20.20 | ali1234 | since about 2.6.32 |
| 21:20.28 | ali1234 | because we upstreamed the patches to make it work |
| 21:20.55 | Cotulla | and? |
| 21:21.03 | ali1234 | and you can't say the same about msm |
| 21:21.13 | Cotulla | in CE most drivers use "stream" interface. |
| 21:21.17 | ali1234 | your stuff always breaks because nobody upstream even knows or cares about it |
| 21:21.25 | Cotulla | so actually each driver is independent component of system |
| 21:21.31 | Cotulla | not like in linux |
| 21:21.38 | ali1234 | so what? |
| 21:21.51 | ali1234 | it is made this way by design to punish you for not upstreaming |
| 21:22.27 | Cotulla | or why there 1-10 implementation for one thing in msm trees? |
| 21:23.05 | ali1234 | because you guys don't cooperate with each other or upstream nearly enough |
| 21:23.43 | Cotulla | and upstream... if API same for new versions or have minor changes, who need upstream? |
| 21:23.50 | ali1234 | you're reinventing the wheel over and over on each new model that comes out |
| 21:24.25 | ali1234 | the vendors share in this blame too, to be fair |
| 21:24.38 | Cotulla | because no strict rules :) |
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| 21:26.04 | Cotulla | it's like public militia, without strict control, they can do anything |
| 21:26.10 | Cotulla | *can't |
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| 21:35.30 | Artik | Cotulla: hey dude =) sorry to bug you, but people just keep wondering: have you abandoned magician project once and for all? |
| 21:37.14 | Cotulla | no... |
| 21:37.39 | Cotulla | actually I am in parallel trying to finish alphine project and then port all new to magician |
| 21:37.53 | Cotulla | but I got more problems there that I though |
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| 21:38.38 | Artik | oh, cool =) the problems - not so cool, but you get what I mean =) |
| 21:38.59 | Cotulla | I developed magician project about 2 years... |
| 21:39.13 | Cotulla | (before inital release) |
| 21:44.20 | Artik | any chance you could re-release something with a camera (no matter, old or new) based on the last stable release - like R1 or O5, to keep people interested and rise morale? =P |
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| 21:45.05 | Cotulla | camera it's thing which fucked me down :( |
| 21:45.29 | Samsunguy | No homo |
| 21:46.53 | Artik | you mean, you hate it so much, it was the reason for you to start working on the project and because of that you object to this idea? |
| 21:47.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's the camera sensor in magician? |
| 21:47.11 | Cotulla | arrrggg |
| 21:47.17 | Cotulla | 9640 & 9650 |
| 21:47.20 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.26 | FsTluxe | Cotulla, I love you haha :P sorry to say.. |
| 21:47.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | copy-paste it from linux. and then release all the code under gpl ;)) |
| 21:47.40 | stickman89 | concerned.... |
| 21:47.51 | Cotulla | I checked linux code, it was bad |
| 21:47.52 | Cotulla | :P |
| 21:47.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | but it works |
| 21:48.14 | Cotulla | I mean camera is very complex thing. it's not possible to get good quality without special equipment and 1000 testers, like HTC. |
| 21:48.14 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|laptop: ping ;) |
| 21:48.26 | Cotulla | I have image from camera |
| 21:48.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, hi |
| 21:48.43 | torgrimt | hi. sorry was afk for an epic sleepingsession ;) |
| 21:48.45 | Cotulla | but it's enough to move it to dark part of wall |
| 21:48.54 | Cotulla | to see noise |
| 21:49.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: wtf are you saying that every time? it's better to have it working *poorly* than not working at all. or are you afraid of users? |
| 21:49.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, any issues/questions? |
| 21:49.20 | Cotulla | Alex, my camera also works |
| 21:49.21 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|laptop: yes, it wont boot. it just shows alot of lines on the screen. then reboot |
| 21:49.26 | Cotulla | but important how it's working |
| 21:49.28 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|laptop: with ./fastboot boot zImage-2.6.32+r22+gitr013075354e0b533991650ec756605ad4731e6a0c-r22-htcdream.fastboot |
| 21:49.43 | Cotulla | test case - dark place |
| 21:49.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: but then again. you do have wm2003 binaries |
| 21:49.55 | Cotulla | I can't use them |
| 21:49.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, ok |
| 21:50.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | but you can disassemble them |
| 21:50.04 | GNUtoo|laptop | toastcfh, that is because it doesn't find the rootfs |
| 21:50.05 | Cotulla | and my idea was to rewrite all |
| 21:50.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | how did you format your microsd card |
| 21:50.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
| 21:50.18 | Cotulla | yeah, I am actually doing it :) |
| 21:50.22 | torgrimt | 1 ext3 partition |
| 21:50.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | is it linux+ext3? |
| 21:50.29 | torgrimt | and extracted the tarball as root onto it |
| 21:50.34 | torgrimt | it is linux+ext3 yes |
| 21:50.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 21:50.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | you're lucky it is connected via regular i2c |
| 21:50.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 21:50.49 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 21:50.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | what do you see when you put the card in a computer |
| 21:50.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | what ls shows |
| 21:50.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | on loox they've connected it to gpio pins and emulated i2c in software |
| 21:50.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | what mount shows |
| 21:50.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
| 21:51.03 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|laptop: shows normal filesystem ;) |
| 21:51.06 | Artik | I thought the noise was a hardware problem... |
| 21:51.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | be sure that it's linux too with fdisk |
| 21:51.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 21:51.14 | torgrimt | i am sure it is |
| 21:51.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, ok |
| 21:51.19 | Cotulla | also some things are not so funny |
| 21:51.24 | Cotulla | like HTC camera |
| 21:51.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, are you able to compile a kernel? |
| 21:51.29 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|laptop: yes |
| 21:51.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | because basically here's the issue |
| 21:51.33 | Cotulla | it need YUV buffers |
| 21:51.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | you need framebuffer console |
| 21:51.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | but framebuffer console can't be enabled in "production" |
| 21:51.56 | Cotulla | I can implement it in same way, but I will lost a lot of memory. |
| 21:51.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | because it creates some issues |
| 21:52.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | I don't remember which ones |
| 21:52.17 | Cotulla | so 64 mb devices will have -6mb of memory |
| 21:52.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: the general case with programming is a speed/memory tradeoff |
| 21:52.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | toastcfh, so cross-compile a kernel with framebuffer console and use leviathan's openmoko howto for getting the right arguments for framebuffer console |
| 21:52.38 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|laptop: sure i can try that. do you have a .config for the kernel used? |
| 21:52.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes |
| 21:52.51 | Cotulla | but I think I will allocate YUV buffers for HTC camera and implement dynamic allocation for 6mb |
| 21:52.54 | torgrimt | i think he has a link for his .config |
| 21:53.02 | Cotulla | so if no memory - no camera :) |
| 21:53.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/linux/linux-leviathan/defconfig |
| 21:53.36 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|laptop: the screen shows just vertical lines when booting now. i can make a video if you want to see |
| 21:53.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: btw, do you know anything about win embedded handheld? is it compatible with ce 5.2 kernels? |
| 21:54.03 | Cotulla | no yet, no news about it at all. only few new strings in resources. |
| 21:54.04 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, try framebuffer console |
| 21:54.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | and keep the video for the framebuffer console |
| 21:54.20 | Cotulla | but maybe it based on ce60 |
| 21:54.23 | GNUtoo|laptop | are the lines black and white? |
| 21:54.32 | torgrimt | think they where gray and white |
| 21:54.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok then that's normal |
| 21:54.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's the empty framebuffer memory |
| 21:55.00 | GNUtoo|laptop | what rootfs did you untar? |
| 21:55.08 | torgrimt | the full file |
| 21:55.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | SHR's rootfs from shr-project? |
| 21:55.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | or the old leviathan one? |
| 21:55.29 | torgrimt | from shr-project, sec ill find the filename |
| 21:55.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok that's fine |
| 21:55.39 | torgrimt | full-htcdream.tar.gz |
| 21:55.42 | Cotulla | btw Alex, I abandon meego :P bcz it's fucking buggy for now... |
| 21:55.52 | torgrimt | i guess that includes the models aswell |
| 21:55.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: no wonder. it's not even alpha |
| 21:55.59 | Cotulla | ya |
| 21:56.00 | torgrimt | s/models/modules |
| 21:56.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, yes of course |
| 21:56.08 | Cotulla | I search bug about 1 hour |
| 21:56.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | but there aren't a lot of modules |
| 21:56.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | just wifi |
| 21:56.15 | Cotulla | and then found that it's meego bug |
| 21:56.23 | Cotulla | epic fail :( |
| 21:56.27 | torgrimt | should boot just fine without wifi |
| 21:57.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes |
| 21:57.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's a rootfs problem I think |
| 21:57.52 | torgrimt | sec ill fire it up with recovery and mount usb |
| 21:58.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, wait a sec |
| 21:58.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | you mean you formated trough usb? |
| 21:58.20 | torgrimt | yes |
| 21:58.21 | Artik | Cotulla: well, thanks for the insight. |
| 21:58.32 | Cotulla | u think I need releae WM653 rom on G9? |
| 21:58.39 | torgrimt | with the clockworkmod recovery console. |
| 21:58.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, that's the problem |
| 21:58.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | no because wm653 sucks |
| 21:58.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | toastcfh, I'll explain |
| 21:58.50 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:58.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | those png graphics are slow and waste memory |
| 21:58.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically you have that kind of patition on your microsd: |
| 21:59.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | /dev/mmcblk0 -> /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 21:59.11 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:59.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | when you export trough usb |
| 21:59.23 | GNUtoo|laptop | you export /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 21:59.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | and not /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 21:59.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | which should have been exported |
| 21:59.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | now.... |
| 21:59.44 | torgrimt | hmm oke. |
| 21:59.51 | torgrimt | didnt know that ;) |
| 21:59.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | can you mount your microsd card on your laptop not trough the phone? |
| 22:00.00 | GNUtoo|laptop | else format on the phone |
| 22:00.34 | Artik | Cotulla: on the other hand, I can imagine crowds of people saying, how they always wanted 653 (although, do they really *need* it?) |
| 22:00.36 | torgrimt | guess i can do that. dont remeber if my laptop have an sdcardreader that is supported in linux ;( |
| 22:00.45 | torgrimt | hmm,. maybe my old eeepc can do that |
| 22:00.49 | torgrimt | sec, ill try ;) |
| 22:01.16 | Cotulla | Artik, dunno. but it won't have camera :) |
| 22:01.38 | Cotulla | in plans also pure CE52 ROM release. just for fun. |
| 22:01.39 | Artik | yeah, I got that. That's kinda what makes it pointless |
| 22:02.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: with phone and dialer? |
| 22:02.06 | Cotulla | no, maximum gprs |
| 22:02.07 | Artik | plus, as soon as you release 653, ppl will start asking for android) |
| 22:02.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | torgrimt, else you could do it from the phone but that's a lot more complicated because not all the tools are there |
| 22:02.14 | Cotulla | android isn't possible |
| 22:02.17 | Cotulla | too old hw |
| 22:02.29 | Cotulla | 64 ram not enough 100% |
| 22:02.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: well, you can start android.. but it will be very slow and may run oom when you launch any app |
| 22:02.49 | Cotulla | u can look at youtube how android runs on pxa270 |
| 22:02.56 | Artik | 128 should be somewhat enough for 1.6 - seen chinese tablets... |
| 22:02.57 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|laptop: well, ill try the laptop now. ill report back |
| 22:03.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 22:03.04 | Cotulla | who need 1.6 now |
| 22:03.11 | Artik | good point |
| 22:03.14 | Cotulla | screen output will be VERY slow |
| 22:03.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: that g900 video is bullshit. android is not slow on pxa270. especially qvga. but 64mb ram is a no-go |
| 22:03.19 | Cotulla | look at youtube video |
| 22:03.44 | Cotulla | Alex, 2.0+ use GL render for ALL operations |
| 22:03.55 | Cotulla | and software GL sloow |
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| 22:04.43 | Cotulla | show me android on looks :P |
| 22:04.45 | Cotulla | *loox |
| 22:04.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway. i don't think those old pdas are usable for anything other than research and hacking today. if someone needs wm6.5.3 or android, they can get the former used for about $50 and the latter for about $150 |
| 22:05.15 | Cotulla | ya |
| 22:05.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i'll try to. although anything (including GTK in X) except Qt4 and Qt2 (opie) is painfully slow there |
| 22:06.00 | Cotulla | so words "Android need less resources than WM" is bullshit :P |
| 22:06.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: who the fuck told that bullshit? |
| 22:06.20 | Cotulla | I read it several times |
| 22:06.22 | Cotulla | in the internet |
| 22:06.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | no way. anything that has to do with java cannot be fast or lightweight or good |
| 22:06.44 | Cotulla | ever WP7 seems need less resources |
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| 22:07.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, have you tried .net micro yet? |
| 22:07.54 | Cotulla | not yet |
| 22:07.58 | Cotulla | but it looks funny |
| 22:08.04 | Cotulla | MS use GCC to compile it |
| 22:08.14 | Cotulla | or RVCT |
| 22:08.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | what if we write bootloader in it and use it to troll both windows and linux users? |
| 22:08.35 | Cotulla | hm possible |
| 22:08.41 | Cotulla | there also simple forms support |
| 22:08.43 | Cotulla | :P |
| 22:08.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | but it would be too heavyweight. i think no less than 400kb |
| 22:09.02 | Cotulla | ya |
| 22:09.07 | Cotulla | but who cares about size now? |
| 22:09.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | i try to |
| 22:09.30 | Cotulla | I am seriously will move MAGLDR to CE52 base. and try it. |
| 22:09.40 | Cotulla | 1 mb compressed - and u got most stuffs inside |
| 22:09.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | and you know. it sucks that every year the cpu and ram doubles and the software does not work faster |
| 22:09.53 | Cotulla | like fat and etc |
| 22:10.16 | Cotulla | 2 mb - and u got GWES |
| 22:10.33 | Cotulla | but I don't need gwes |
| 22:10.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | real cotullas don't use gwes |
| 22:10.52 | Artik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYzRSNuUsIw&feature=related seems to work a bit smoother, than titanium on magician downclocked to 200mhz. Not *that* bad... |
| 22:11.24 | Cotulla | gwes need too many resources, as well many dependences and long load time |
| 22:11.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | no way to ce. .net micro ;) |
| 22:12.21 | Cotulla | okay, develop on micro, I will on CE :) |
| 22:12.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | i dunno. i just want to write the bootloader from scratch for experience first |
| 22:12.58 | Cotulla | so start from legacy bootloader on codeaurora |
| 22:13.04 | Cotulla | it's good base |
| 22:13.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | i will see. after the exams. |
| 22:13.16 | Cotulla | heh |
| 22:13.18 | Cotulla | my done :D |
| 22:13.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | lucky you |
| 22:13.30 | Cotulla | yaya |
| 22:13.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | our university follows the bologne process.. we have exams every two months |
| 22:14.09 | Jhinta | any one kneow why i keep getting this ? arch/arm/mach-msm/idle-v7.S:126: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `fmxr fpexc,r2' |
| 22:14.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | old compiler? |
| 22:14.57 | Cotulla | I got this also sometime ago. but I am true-coder, so I replace this instruction by DCD |
| 22:14.58 | Jhinta | 2010q1 |
| 22:15.34 | Cotulla | hm is it android on video? |
| 22:15.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: you're a true troll |
| 22:15.42 | Cotulla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYzRSNuUsIw&feature=related |
| 22:16.08 | Artik | Cotulla: sure looks like one |
| 22:16.53 | Cotulla | anyway user experience will be awful I think. |
| 22:18.44 | Artik | I'm personally quite content with 6.5. Took sometime to make CHome usable, but otherwise... tried downgrading to O3 last week, couldn't endure it more than 15 minutes - without the chord keys and stuff |
| 22:19.05 | Cotulla | oh |
| 22:19.37 | Artik | chord keys rule) |
| 22:19.53 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 22:20.01 | Cotulla | are u using 208? |
| 22:20.03 | Cotulla | or 416? |
| 22:20.11 | Artik | 208 most of the time |
| 22:20.24 | Artik | 100 is enough for mp3s |
| 22:20.37 | Artik | 512 can almost run Playstation emu |
| 22:20.42 | Cotulla | haha |
| 22:20.45 | Cotulla | 520 |
| 22:20.48 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 22:20.51 | Artik | ah, yes |
| 22:22.00 | Artik | I assume enter+camera was reserved to squeeze in both camera and task manager in the future? |
| 22:22.19 | Cotulla | don't know. it maybe better move them. |
| 22:22.34 | Cotulla | because bad press - and u waiting until camera launched |
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| 22:23.30 | Artik | maybe it's better for camera to be on chord then |
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| 22:25.00 | Cotulla | anyway camera will work only if memory enough |
| 22:26.00 | Cotulla | GNUtoo|n900 are u GNUtoo|laptop? |
| 22:26.02 | Cotulla | :P |
| 22:26.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | Cotulla, yes |
| 22:26.22 | Artik | I guess, if there's a working driver, clearing some extra Mbs for software is not that problematic |
| 22:26.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've many phones |
| 22:26.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | i bet cotulla has more |
| 22:26.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | some free,some paid |
| 22:26.45 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 22:27.08 | Artik | I used to do my set up in such a way that there's always 16+Mbs free for skype in case of emergency |
| 22:28.14 | Cotulla | original configuration have 6 mb of reserved memory for camera\ |
| 22:28.21 | Cotulla | it's bad for WM65 |
| 22:28.41 | Artik | reserved in RAM? |
| 22:28.52 | dcordes | Cotulla: about to do some ubuntu booting. maybe I can put Xleo ? |
| 22:28.52 | Cotulla | yes |
| 22:29.03 | Cotulla | driver? |
| 22:29.14 | Artik | many people still used coolcamera instead |
| 22:29.14 | dcordes | yeah |
| 22:29.28 | Cotulla | u sure u wanna do it? it's buggy :) |
| 22:29.31 | dcordes | Cotulla: would be a pleasure to test it ! |
| 22:29.36 | Cotulla | okay |
| 22:29.40 | dcordes | as long as dsp won'T explode |
| 22:30.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | no it will implode and turn into a black hole |
| 22:32.27 | Artik | I currently have 57Mbs RAM free on 6.5 |
| 22:32.52 | Cotulla | don't post such things when I drink :P |
| 22:33.41 | Artik | I'll imitate some "active usage" now, let's see, what'll be left |
| 22:33.52 | Cotulla | wait |
| 22:33.57 | Cotulla | is it with slider? |
| 22:34.03 | Artik | no |
| 22:34.15 | Artik | the strict one |
| 22:34.42 | Cotulla | oh u have 128 ram? |
| 22:34.54 | Artik | 128 |
| 22:35.15 | Artik | I thougth it was obvious from 6.5) |
| 22:35.34 | Artik | since O5 appears to be somewhere in between |
| 22:35.54 | gauner1986 | 128.. sweet |
| 22:36.29 | Cotulla | u may had slider version |
| 22:37.12 | Artik | I don't think 57 woul've been possible on 64Mb in any case o_0 |
| 22:37.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | if you had NOR and were xipping.. |
| 22:38.07 | Cotulla | WM61 had 57 isn't it? |
| 22:38.17 | Cotulla | WM61 slider's one |
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| 22:39.14 | Artik | sorry, no idea |
| 22:41.05 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: wtf is wrong with xf86-video-msm rotation ? |
| 22:41.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes, it was absent from the driver when I looked at it(very long time ago) |
| 22:41.50 | Jhinta | Q - with a build of a new kernel with vt one sould i be able to just boot it with a view command or is this simpel minded? |
| 22:42.32 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: ok still seems to be the case then |
| 22:43.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes, xf86-video-fbdev has static rotation(change xorg.conf and restart xorg) |
| 22:43.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes, btw I got alsa working on nexusone but it's not great at all(very....buffer underrun) |
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| 22:43.56 | Artik | ok, I've loaded it up with quite a lot of stuff, more than I usually use at once, but anyway... coreplayer with a 320kbps mp3 going, pocketwit, fim, solitaire, pigeon, notes, opera mini with 3 tabs - still 13.5Mbs left |
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| 22:44.34 | Artik | ah, and activesync over bt |
| 22:44.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | here's nexusone preliminary evaluation: |
| 22:44.41 | Cotulla | bt... |
| 22:44.45 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | GPS: NMEA and works with floss code in android |
| 22:45.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | alsa: big issues |
| 22:45.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | wifi: bcm4329: wext |
| 22:45.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | camera: didn't look enough into it(the v4l device node didn't apear) |
| 22:45.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | modem: AT commands that are more standard: works fine with free ril |
| 22:45.54 | Artik | Cotulla: I share internet over wifi on this laptop, so AS won't work over cable with RNDIS |
| 22:46.37 | Cotulla | I fucked with BT a lot... with on of on off :D |
| 22:47.26 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: nice |
| 22:47.40 | Artik | xiaojin's wireless manager somehow fixes the on/off bug |
| 22:47.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes, not sure....alsa has a full driver, but lots of issues |
| 22:47.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | s/has/is |
| 22:47.56 | Cotulla | I fixed it in last versions, right? |
| 22:48.05 | dcordes | Markinus: do you think it'S possible to make Cotulla's evo branch 'official' like tg01 so we can easily pull it ? |
| 22:48.10 | Artik | ah, wait, that's not it |
| 22:48.16 | dcordes | Markinus: without getting new .git or is it possible already ? |
| 22:48.16 | Artik | you fixed bt |
| 22:48.32 | Artik | what's NOT working, is flight mode from generic menu |
| 22:48.39 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: did you publish it via ml ? |
| 22:48.55 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: the nexus1 alsa success ? |
| 22:48.55 | Artik | I think, you can't switch the phone module back on in some cases |
| 22:48.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | no, only trough gitorious in leviathan-incomming project |
| 22:49.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | bb on n900 |
| 22:49.02 | Markinus | dcordes: he has a clone, no a branch |
| 22:49.10 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: ok |
| 22:49.10 | Markinus | dcordes: his own repo |
| 22:49.17 | dcordes | ok then I will fetch it |
| 22:49.48 | Markinus | dcordes: we could do a branch from it, wouln't be a problem . . |
| 22:50.01 | dcordes | Receiving objects: 0% (227/34517), 108.00 KiB | 16 KiB/s |
| 22:50.07 | dcordes | hell yeah |
| 22:50.44 | gauner1986 | linuxtogo? |
| 22:50.45 | gauner1986 | ;) |
| 22:50.51 | Artik | the BT, on the other hand, works great |
| 22:51.21 | Artik | lots of fun transmitting sound on laptop's speakers, etc |
| 22:51.39 | GNUtoo|n900 | dcordes,maybe adapting the qdsp6 to it would remove buffer umderruns.... |
| 22:51.50 | dcordes | Cotulla: maybe if you put it as branch it's easier to merge with main ? |
| 22:52.05 | dcordes | GNUtoo|n900: ask Cotulla for help :D |
| 22:52.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: you can add his repo as a remote branch |
| 22:52.29 | Cotulla | I don't think it must be merged with main... it's "immediate" changes. |
| 22:52.31 | GNUtoo|n900 | my laptop is powered off |
| 22:52.44 | GNUtoo|n900 | but i remember that |
| 22:53.03 | Artik | gtg |
| 22:53.23 | Cotulla | bb |
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| 22:53.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyhoo, i wonder if we'll ever see the day when msm will be mainlined and developers won't have to fuck with 3 different trees (mainline, CA and android) |
| 22:53.29 | GNUtoo|n900 | there was =1 |
| 22:53.30 | Pedro | hi |
| 22:53.36 | dcordes | Artik: cya |
| 22:53.36 | GNUtoo|n900 | in ubuntu driver |
| 22:53.44 | Pedro | hi |
| 22:53.47 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: nvm cloning already |
| 22:53.53 | GNUtoo|n900 | for the ac something |
| 22:53.57 | Artik | Cotulla: if you need more testers, I think I'm going to be free enough after february. Especially if I do buy SGS |
| 22:53.58 | GNUtoo|n900 | maybe the size |
| 22:54.05 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]:ya that'd be nice |
| 22:54.08 | GNUtoo|n900 | in the buffer send stuff |
| 22:54.16 | Cotulla | GNUtoo do u have GNUtoo|desktop? |
| 22:54.20 | GNUtoo|n900 | let me look in gitorious |
| 22:54.24 | Pedro | what best xandroid for my htc touch pro 2 sprint ??? |
| 22:54.26 | Pedro | what best xandroid for my htc touch pro 2 sprint ??? |
| 22:54.35 | GNUtoo|n900 | desktop is powered off |
| 22:54.52 | Cotulla | where ur last alsa stuffs located? |
| 22:55.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: you can actually add a remote branche from the git on your hard drive. then you can do git pull on cotulla's repo copy and git merge remote/cotulla_repo in the directory of your repo |
| 22:56.41 | GNUtoo|n900 | http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/a604b47031fd68cbd426709c130aa2f03ead0531 |
| 22:56.49 | GNUtoo|n900 | ab used = 1 |
| 22:57.15 | GNUtoo|n900 | ab actual size = xfer |
| 22:57.49 | GNUtoo|n900 | i bet that,if restored...could change something |
| 22:58.12 | GNUtoo|n900 | to restore it qdsp6 changes are needed |
| 22:58.39 | GNUtoo|n900 | what I have works....badly....but works and is a starting point |
| 23:00.27 | GNUtoo|n900 | also the console keyboard is usable...but... |
| 23:00.42 | GNUtoo|n900 | a better keyboard could be better |
| 23:03.24 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|n900: seems like all my readers in laptops have bugs in their drivers and wont work properly. |
| 23:03.35 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|n900: guess ill have to buy a new one or something another day |
| 23:04.09 | GNUtoo|n900 | or use your phone to format the card |
| 23:04.30 | torgrimt | i broke android ;) so if its doable from clockwork, then it might be possible |
| 23:04.54 | GNUtoo|n900 | yes it could be done...but it could be hard |
| 23:05.09 | GNUtoo|n900 | depending on how much tools are there |
| 23:05.16 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: ok |
| 23:05.21 | dcordes | gn |
| 23:05.24 | GNUtoo|n900 | fastboot a recovery |
| 23:05.43 | dcordes | Cotulla: will let you know if I got it working thx again |
| 23:05.47 | GNUtoo|n900 | and try to format the card in linux and ext3 |
| 23:05.52 | Cotulla | okay\ |
| 23:06.18 | GNUtoo|n900 | i'll go aoon |
| 23:06.35 | FsTluxe | BB professors.. |
| 23:06.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | he called us professors. what an insult |
| 23:07.01 | Cotulla | who |
| 23:07.04 | Cotulla | and he lefs |
| 23:07.06 | Cotulla | lefts |
| 23:07.16 | Cotulla | he bad troll]\ |
| 23:07.29 | GNUtoo|n900 | professor is like teacher? |
| 23:07.40 | GNUtoo|n900 | it seem like a compliment |
| 23:07.49 | Cotulla | _/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_ |
| 23:07.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's that? a sine? |
| 23:08.08 | GNUtoo|n900 | clock... |
| 23:08.11 | Cotulla | saw |
| 23:08.16 | Cotulla | :D |
| 23:08.29 | stickman89 | I lol'd |
| 23:08.39 | GNUtoo|n900 | maybe a gpio state? |
| 23:08.44 | Cotulla | hm maybe :D |
| 23:08.46 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|n900: clockwork can do "format sdcard" |
| 23:09.01 | GNUtoo|n900 | ok but format in ext3 |
| 23:09.20 | Cotulla | ______/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\__ |
| 23:09.20 | Cotulla | |...........................| |
| 23:09.20 | Cotulla | \__________________/ |
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| 23:09.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | that's i2c |
| 23:09.34 | torgrimt | it said, cant mount /dev/block/mcblk0 or mcblck0p1 ;) |
| 23:09.48 | GNUtoo|n900 | hmmm |
| 23:09.54 | stickman89 | lol cotulla is that the titanic |
| 23:10.10 | stickman89 | I see why is sunk |
| 23:10.15 | torgrimt | when i put clockwork in share usb card, it displays as this |
| 23:10.18 | torgrimt | Disk /dev/sdf: 1015 MB, 1015808000 bytes |
| 23:10.22 | torgrimt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.22 | torgrimt | /dev/sdf1 * 1 1016 991585+ 83 Linux |
| 23:10.27 | torgrimt | seems to be correct |
| 23:10.34 | Cotulla | ya I am coding under My Heart Will Go On now :D |
| 23:10.53 | GNUtoo|n900 | remember what I said about usb? |
| 23:11.02 | torgrimt | yes i do |
| 23:11.08 | GNUtoo|n900 | i'll go soon |
| 23:11.10 | torgrimt | but it seems correct, that was what i meant |
| 23:11.24 | torgrimt | oki, ill try some hacking for a while. then ill just buy a new cardreader tomorrow |
| 23:11.27 | GNUtoo|n900 | but you could try to format /dev/sdf |
| 23:11.44 | GNUtoo|n900 | with mkfs.ext3 |
| 23:11.45 | stickman89 | hahah cotulla make sure she falls of the boat soon though! |
| 23:11.52 | torgrimt | mkfs without the partition ? |
| 23:11.54 | stickman89 | sooner even |
| 23:12.05 | GNUtoo|n900 | and try to mount it...from the phone after |
| 23:12.11 | GNUtoo|n900 | yes |
| 23:12.15 | torgrimt | oki |
| 23:15.47 | GNUtoo|n900 | torgrimt else try to format from command line on the phone trough adb |
| 23:16.11 | GNUtoo|n900 | and extract the image on microsd |
| 23:16.22 | GNUtoo|n900 | and boot on SHR |
| 23:19.30 | GNUtoo|n900 | i'll go bye |
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| 23:37.01 | Claudis | hi |
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| 23:38.01 | Claudis | anyone here? |
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