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00:43.34plupkeweeeeeeeeeeeeee   http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=DIY-usb-hub
00:44.07plupkeno lame Y cable, a real hardware mod on the usb hub
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01:11.25SamsunguyI can't log in to any of the chat channels :(
01:11.50plupkemaby because of your bad connection earlier today?
01:12.26SamsunguyI think I got banned :( stupid irc chat
01:12.45SamsunguyI need a different client
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01:32.01Samsunguyplupke: didn't work
01:32.31plupkebanned
01:32.36plupkebeg for mercy
01:32.43SamsunguyGuess so :(
01:32.50SamsunguyBut to who
01:37.59plupke1 of the ops
01:38.02plupkethey visit here to
01:38.42SamsunguyIt's only darkstone and rajko, and sometimes fakker
01:47.37plupkemost likely just a timeban
01:48.51SamsunguyHope so
01:49.24plupkethink of the size the block list would get
01:49.48SamsunguyIf what?
01:51.28arrrghhhwhat did you do now Samsunguy
01:52.04SamsunguyIt was my iPad this time
01:52.19arrrghhhlol you can't blame technology for getting banned
01:52.24SamsunguyI'm never using it again
01:52.30arrrghhhor was it the constant signing in/out/in/out/in/out?
01:52.43SamsunguyYes most likely
01:53.00arrrghhhah, yea.  that's pretty annoying.
01:53.10arrrghhhyou signing in and out constantly, not the banning.
01:53.19SamsunguyYea probably
01:53.21arrrghhhi would've banned you too.
01:53.33arrrghhh:P
01:53.38SamsunguyThanks I'll remember that
01:53.42Samsunguy:D
01:53.51arrrghhhyou do that, considering i don't have ops lol
01:54.10SamsunguyHehe how goes tp2
01:54.26arrrghhheh developement seems to happen in feverish spurts
01:54.33arrrghhhbut it's moving along overall very well
01:54.42SamsunguySounds good
01:54.48arrrghhhyup.
01:55.10SamsunguyHave you decided on getting an hd2 yet?
01:55.52arrrghhhnah
01:55.55arrrghhhprobably not going to
01:56.01arrrghhhis very poor right now
01:56.08arrrghhhespecially when crap keeps breaking in my house.
01:56.38SamsunguyHehe I thought work was good
01:56.53arrrghhhwork's alright
01:56.58SamsunguyWhy do things keep breaking in your house
01:57.12arrrghhhcuz that's what happens when you buy a house?
01:57.25arrrghhhcrap breaks, and you have to pay to fix it.
01:57.42SamsunguyYour house isn't normal then :D
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01:59.03arrrghhhstuff breaks in brand new houses, what do you mean my house isn't normal?
01:59.30SamsunguyI kid I kid
01:59.39arrrghhhit's not funny, it's expensive.
01:59.46SamsunguyLol
02:00.28arrrghhhdick.
02:01.09SamsunguyHehe
02:01.34arrrghhhanyhoo, hope you get a venereal disease.  cya!
02:02.08SamsunguyLol
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04:23.04bijanHey
04:23.18bijanAre you gusy still working on android for rhodium?
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11:30.19jamericanhello?
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11:31.22jamericanIt seems to have halted.
11:31.22jamericananyone know about the Touch pro 2 development?
11:33.51jamericanhello?
11:40.20jamericanwhy isn't anyone answering
11:41.15DuperManppl r sleeping. check the forums.
11:41.18Rajkoeveryones iling
11:41.21Rajkoidlin
11:41.30DuperManiLurk
11:41.47jamericanthe XDA forums?
11:42.27DuperManyup
11:43.32[Rapunzel]bcz there only LEO owners
11:43.53DuperMan^
11:44.00jamericanthat sucks :(
11:44.04[Rapunzel]ya
11:44.09[Rapunzel]agree
11:44.28noobhandsstfu
11:44.39noobhands:D
11:44.46jamericanI have a TP2 still because its still the best business phone hardware-wise
11:45.52[Rapunzel]Desire Z? Pro7?
11:47.10jamericanDesire Z is T-Mobile. I am Sprint. Pro 7 is not released yet and quite honestly will suck because WP7 is still new
11:47.24[Rapunzel]so heh
11:47.25[Rapunzel]:)
11:47.37[Rapunzel]Desire Z won't work for u network?
11:47.43[Rapunzel]*ur
11:47.45jamericandon't forget that cheap hinge thing that the Desire Z has
11:47.59jamericanhow can it, its a GSM phone
11:48.25jamericanI could hack my TP2 to work for T-mobile but it doesn't work the other way around
11:50.06jamericanSo I sit here and wait for HTC to release a real TP2 replacement
11:50.25[Rapunzel]hm
11:50.46[Rapunzel]maybe change operator? most devices are gsm
11:51.26jamericanI agree but you can't beat a $40 plan with unlimited data/ 500min / nights at 7pm. No data cap
11:52.06[Rapunzel]ohh
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11:52.26MN_Hello
11:52.36jamericanplus I was with tmobile for 6 yrs. Nothing but dropped calls and problmes
11:52.51jamericanwas with sprint for 2 years and wished my contract didn't end
11:53.42jamericani would go on tmobile again if they could offer me what sprint offers me
11:53.48jamericani doubt it so I stay where I am
11:56.40MN_what about the htc evo shift
11:59.00F-Dwhat about b( . )( . )bies?
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12:08.14DuperManthe htc evo shift has no boobies:(
12:11.53F-Di dont want it then
12:15.37WilldMoar boobies :(
12:16.07DuperMan(*)(*) tiny boobies
12:16.28WilldWith hueg nipples?
12:16.36F-D. . no boobs
12:16.39DuperManaye
12:17.04DuperMan(.)| |
12:17.06DuperManmastectomy
12:18.59noobhandsshut up
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12:21.41Fusion_hey guys
12:21.54MN_hi
12:21.55Fusion_i have a question installing android on a HTC touch pro 2 on sprint
12:22.08MN_go to #xdandroid Fusion_
12:22.38Fusion_yea i went there and i got one of this package XDANDROID.2.2.1.AOSP.FRX03.21.11.10.FULL_PACKAGE
12:22.58Fusion_i just want to know what's the difference between that and the one froy reference
12:23.04Fusion_here
12:23.08MN_go to that channel and ask for info :)
12:24.11Fusion_ok um..do i need to use haret.exe to run reference version cab file on this site?
12:24.56Fusion_nvm
12:24.58Fusion_got it =)
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13:25.51arrrghhhphh, ping
13:27.52arrrghhhcan never seem to catch you!  anyhoo, just wanted you to look at a potential RIL patch... see this post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5836166#post5836166
13:28.19arrrghhhthanks to bzo for digging up that link, i just hope we can use it.  i'm not sure if the existing RIL has that HTC_BSINFO command or not.
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13:43.55arrrghhhi was also having trouble building the RIL, but I guess that's not suprising.
13:44.03DuperManhello
13:44.25arrrghhhlol
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14:33.21noobhandsyay
14:33.29gauner1986hi
14:33.30noobhandsmy ISP at home is doing 100mb line :)
14:33.36gauner1986fu
14:33.39noobhandsi got 2 lines at home already
14:33.40noobhands2x50
14:33.42noobhands2x100
14:33.44noobhandsnext
14:33.48gauner1986i got ridiculous 300kb/s
14:33.55noobhandshaha
14:34.00noobhandsi pity the fool
14:37.36gauner1986what do you want with all these lines?
14:40.33noobhandsdraw with them, i am an artist
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15:46.33noobhandshi dan1j3l
15:46.44dan1j3lhi
15:48.28noobhandsMy name is Pedobear. I love kids. Mostly around the age of 12-17. Want some candy?
15:48.37noobhandsfuck, did i just type that?
15:48.41crawling17?
15:48.42crawlingtoo old
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15:49.28lkclpingg, pingg, does anyone have an email address for pH5 at all?
15:50.36lkclok - an up-to-date one that works better than ones when i was on this channel regularly 4 years ago would be appreciated
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16:36.53noobhandsnooooooooooooooo
16:40.44gauner1986.com
16:40.45gauner1986?
16:40.47gauner1986:)
16:41.12[Rapunzel]u lost ur cock?
16:41.42noobhandsyeah, i found it again
16:41.45noobhandsyou put it in your mouth again
16:41.47noobhandsi told you to stop doing that
16:41.52[Rapunzel]*clock
16:41.55[Rapunzel]ohh
16:41.59[Rapunzel]:D
16:42.00noobhandsstupid pisjka mouth
16:47.27noobhandshttp://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-directly-copied-java-code-strengthening/
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17:12.21XirXesIt kinda feels like Google picked that fight. (engadget link above) I wonder who decided that and why
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17:34.33pH5lkcl_: hej
17:34.43lkcl_wotch pH5 :)
17:34.49pH5lkcl_: unfortunately, i don't have any significant information on the USSE :(
17:35.01lkcl_neither does anyone, beh.
17:35.23lkcl_there are two people (coincidentally polish) who've been reverse-engineering it.
17:35.44lkcl_one's still ongoing (tomasz) and the other appears to have given up
17:36.16lkcl_i'm looking for info, so as to be able to pick a suitable CPU for a FSF "Hardware-Endorsed" laptop.
17:36.32lkcl_how are ya, anyway?
17:39.50pH5fine, but busy. haven't even thought of taking apart the newer imagination gles libs yet.
17:40.18pH5i guess most of the time my RE efforts are not driven by inherent curiosity, but by boredom :)
17:40.24pH5does the s3c6410 contain a pvr sgx core?
17:41.28lkcl_*lol*
17:41.31lkcl_yes it does.
17:42.01lkcl_ironically, tomasz work is "hidden" by the fact that he's focussing on the Galaxy i5700 device
17:42.44lkcl_samsung's own GPL linux kernel "shim" driver actually supports not just the s3c6410 but also the s5pc100, 110 and obviously the s5pv210 as well.
17:43.23lkcl_but - more than that, if you were to write a compatible "shim" driver for OMAP3, OMAP4 or iMXnn
17:44.19lkcl_his userspace library would work just as well with those CPUs!  ok, you'd have to tell it how many FPU engines there were, and have to workaround the various bugs in the PowerVR engines... :)
17:45.39lkcl_so there's this _one_ polish guy, going "tum te tum, i think i'll reverse-engineer powervr today" and his work completely blows wide open the entire modern powervr family, and nobody's bloody noticed!
17:45.49lkcl_shakes head
17:48.21fakkerffs
17:48.23fakkermy mouse
17:48.29fakkertrackpad has died
17:48.30fakker:D
17:48.43fakkeri dont wanna reboot :(
17:49.04pH5omg, he's working on that since last summer
17:50.02lkcl_pH5: yyep.  and nobody noticed.
17:50.17lkcl_mad, innit?
17:50.45lkcl_fakker: rmmod all the way down to the usb ohci / uhci level often does the trick :)
17:51.42lkcl_modprobing all the usb hardware (and giving udev a boot up the backside) often kicks the devices on the usb bus back into life...
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17:53.56smokulkcl_, is there a YT video demoing his work?  if not, no wonder nobody noticed
17:56.04lkcl_smoku: there is sufficient noise and wannabeism surrounding android that i'm getting concerned that people really doing actual "real" work would get swamped.
17:56.45lkcl_i know that i just said it's funny that nobody noticed, but on the other hand, it may be a good thing!
17:56.51smokuso, maybe it's better nobody bothers him :)
17:58.05smokuyup.  "you moron, i installed your shit and this thing does not work!!" e-mails could wreak havoc to morale and motivation
17:58.56lkcl_mmm, you have a good grasp of the average android user's capabilities, i see :)
17:59.42lkcl_i've notified the FSF at least.  Free Software 3D Graphics libraries are on the high-priority list.
18:00.49toastcfhwhatever happend with the fps cap on topez and raph
18:01.29arrrghhhtoastcfh, did you ever fix it?  :P
18:01.57toastcfhna i told them what we did on the evo tho ;p
18:02.10arrrghhhyea, i saw that patch.
18:02.19toastcfhno worky?
18:02.21arrrghhhdon't think it was too helpful to us... it hasn't been fixed tho.
18:02.32arrrghhhAFAIK no
18:02.39toastcfhthe T@ value made no difference?
18:02.40arrrghhhnot even sure who looked at that one TBH...
18:03.09arrrghhhno clue
18:03.10arrrghhhnothing was ever committed tho
18:03.30toastcfhhttps://github.com/toastcfh/cm-kernel/commit/d3f62b7ab5637a84761aa662b6b7d7186286a53c#diff-0
18:03.48arrrghhhto our tree, sorry :P
18:03.51toastcfhhttps://github.com/toastcfh/Supersonic-2.6.32/commit/c214ecca34c2b45b491a8f7b6ac7c972542d4855
18:04.40toastcfhthen htcs fix on top of ours>>> https://github.com/toastcfh/cm-kernel/commit/d3f62b7ab5637a84761aa662b6b7d7186286a53c#diff-0
18:04.45arrrghhh[acl] would be the man to talk to about that.  do you know what happened with that 2d performance patch from the evo?
18:05.13toastcfh2d is what ur fixing with those changes
18:05.14[acl]toastcfh: how goes it my good man
18:05.32toastcfhwe only get like 32 fps 3d
18:05.52[acl]toastcfh: bottom line on the rhod we cant read or change the T value. only topaz has the ability. But emwe is the only one who was able to modd it withoyut much improvement
18:06.01toastcfh[acl], not to bad. any luck with the T2
18:06.04pH5lkcl_: i can't find anything that links s3c6140 to sgx. after reading http://forum.beyond3d.com/archive/index.php/t-47776.html, it looks to me like fimg-3dse in s3c6410 is a samsung in-house part used before they licensed sgx for s5*?
18:06.33toastcfhhmm
18:06.37toastcfhcrazy
18:06.54toastcfhmay try to match our regs?
18:07.15[acl]toastcfh: We tried.. we just cant write to em. If we write and verify the values, we get 0 in return
18:07.18toastcfhVache pm'd me on the liquid
18:07.45toastcfhahhh because of windows?
18:07.50toastcfhwinmo
18:09.48[acl]toastcfh: yeah so we will have to work around it somehow
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18:31.14gauner1986pff.. vacation.. :D
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18:34.28darkstonevacation? *
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18:46.13gauner1986darkstone: seems like it
18:46.18gauner198610days of off time
18:46.48darkstonelol
18:47.07gauner1986:P
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18:49.39imilka:D
18:52.46darkstoneHAHA.
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19:03.18nh__darkstone: oh hey, thanks for the hd2 froyo ram build. :)
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20:09.36gauner1986so oldschool
20:09.38gauner1986so yesterday
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22:02.32NetRipperanyone here has an active project on gitorious?
22:03.28NetRipperin what way can you give people rights on your project? like... can you allow people to work on certain branches or is it all or nothing?
22:04.19NetRipperguess i should make a test project myself
22:05.23[Rapunzel]Alignment trap: not handling instruction e1923f9f at [<ffff0fc4>]
22:05.27[Rapunzel]wrong window
22:05.28[Rapunzel]:)
22:06.21[Rapunzel]NetRipper, I have project but I manage only to push pull changes. then I understand it's too complex ;-)
22:06.37NetRipperhehe ok
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22:33.11lkcl_ph5: _frick_ :) http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1043
22:33.24lkcl_looks like you're right.
22:33.49lkcl_bollocks.  ok.  thanks for the correct information.  *sigh* back to square one...
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22:39.08lkcl_pH5: i think.... the S5PC100 and S3C6410 uses FIMD, but the S5PV210 and S5PC110 use SGX.
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22:42.10NokserHi
22:43.52pH5lkcl_: too bad :( looks like I'm at the mercy of imagination/ti for binary drivers for the forseeable future.
22:44.15lkcl_pH5: well there _is_ another polish guy who was apparently doing reverse-engineering of SGX
22:44.53lkcl_and it's entirely imgtec.
22:45.17lkcl_i am an unhappy pissed-off bunny.  when that happens i usually get out IDApro. :)
22:45.42pH5lkcl_: are there any alternatives to pvr at all?
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22:46.37lkcl_mali (proprietary), vivante gc600 and gc800 (proprietary), nvidia tegra 250 (proprietary) and dmprof's SMAPH-S (proprietary and used in the new Nintendo 3DS)
22:47.01pH5heh. I see a pattern there.
22:47.06lkcl_other than that, it's things like NEON or Ingenic's jz4740 "X-Burst" Vector Processor Unit
22:47.13lkcl_no shit sherlock :)
22:48.24lkcl_so.. ahh bollocks.  looks like it's necessary to pick something like the TI AM3703
22:49.14lkcl_at least the AM 3715 (and the davinci version) are drop-in parts.  but.... ick!
22:50.04pH5did that other sgx guy publish any of his findings?
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23:00.01lkcl_pH5: incredibly... no!
23:00.56lkcl_http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/45664-powervr-kernel-drivers-avaliable-now/
23:01.08lkcl_maciek urbanski
23:02.00lkcl_ok - gotta go.  talk again soon.
23:02.41pH5yep. thanks.
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