IRC log for #htc-linux on 20110113

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00:03.35NeoMatrixJRhey, anyone else have problems with market lately?
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00:05.33projectionNeoMatrixJR: yes
00:06.05NeoMatrixJRI keep getting server connection issues
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00:44.55Daevoqhi guys i've a little question if someone can answer to me :)
00:45.08Daevoqi've just bought an htc hd2
00:45.39Daevoqso, i've WM official htc rom
00:45.52Daevoqto run android from haret, need i a special WM rom?
00:45.59Daevoqor stock rom is good?
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00:52.31Daevoqand most important question
00:52.41Daevoqi've x.xx.51.xx radio
00:52.57Daevoqthe xda tutorial said that is not compatible
00:53.01Daevoqso?.. what i need?
00:53.22Daevoqneed to flash a radio?
00:54.09Daevoqor i can simply upgrade HTC official Rom by htc site?
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01:11.36MicroangHey does anyone know how to fix the problem with clockwork recovery where the flashed rom gets stuck at the kernel screen? I'm trying to boot radroid and I can't get past the kernel screen :/
01:11.56Microangraidroid
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02:14.12Microanghello?
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02:20.50macblackWP7 released for hd2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911087
02:21.01stinebd#htc-linux
02:22.52Microangdoes anyone know how to fix the problem with clockwork recovery where the flashed rom gets stuck at the kernel screen? I'm trying to boot raidroid and I can't get past the kernel screen :/
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10:18.41manusfreedomnobody here?
10:18.44manusfreedomhi
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11:01.56saints5354thanks all DFT member for the great WP7 on HD2 ....
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12:04.43gauner1986hi
12:05.36noobhandshi gauner1986
12:05.44noobhandskidha
12:07.06manusfreedomhi
12:07.17manusfreedomall of you are on 1.12?
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12:08.39noobhandsyeah
12:10.00manusfreedomit works well?
12:10.03manusfreedomno problem?
12:10.16noobhandsnone
12:10.33manusfreedomdo you have the changelog for 1.12
12:10.34manusfreedom?
12:10.35gauner1986noobhands: you're still using your broken hd2?
12:10.35gauner1986:P
12:10.44noobhandsgauner1986: as a toy - i put wp7 on
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12:31.53gauner1986did i say 720p recorded video looks awesome on hd2?
12:32.40MN_720p on wp7?
12:32.50gauner1986yes
12:33.18MN_hmm interesting
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12:34.20Rajkogauner1986, pictures withflash look terrible tho
12:34.21MN_which sd you using gauner1986
12:35.12Rajkogauner1986, got your device activated ?
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12:36.02MN_hey cedesmith
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13:17.48MN_hey cotulla
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13:32.50manusfreedomhi
13:35.39RaiderXhow r u?
13:35.54manusfreedomme dead...
13:36.08manusfreedomI don't sleep enough
13:36.24RaiderX:(
13:36.28RaiderXi had 3 hours last night
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13:37.16manusfreedomgood! same boat as m
13:37.17manusfreedome
13:40.45RaiderXi aint slept in days tho
13:40.54RaiderXwhen im workin on roms i dont get tired lol
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13:43.39manusfreedomlol
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15:30.32gauner1986bleh, on my desktop pc zune crashes all the time and my notebook doesnt have enough space for the sdk
15:30.33gauner1986fu
15:30.41gauner1986i shouldnt have bought an ssd
15:30.41gauner1986:D
15:30.45MN_gauner1986: come to chat :P
15:30.57gauner1986this isnt even suited for -chat
15:30.58gauner1986:P
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15:31.33MN_lol
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15:34.14gauner1986did i say i hate ms for their buggy software?
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16:31.32NeoMatrixJR~seen WisTilt2
16:31.49aptwistilt2 <~wisgreg@wireless248.wirelesstcp.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 5d 9h 19m 55s ago, saying: 'bzo: well im hitting the sack.  probably wont be on again until sunday night so catch you then. nite'.
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16:33.22[acl]lol.. bzo will be hittin the sack
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16:40.30NeoMatrixJRu kno...I remember running tests of the button LED's for WisTilt2 a while back.  I wonder when those changes will get put in place.  I hate booting android and then realizing I forgot to wait for the button led's to shut off in winmo.
16:40.38NeoMatrixJRstupid battery drainers
16:42.18NeoMatrixJRI am glad the keyboard backlight's working now though!
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16:56.50arrrghhhcan't say the 4-button lights would drain that badly
16:57.22arrrghhhand if you're in portrait mode, those lights should never come on...
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16:58.42arrrghhhweird.  i keep getting this SoD issue... but it seems related to the built-in wifi tether.
16:59.17arrrghhhthe WAP stays up, but the phone is otherwise unresponsive.  oddly enough, kbd bl still turns on and off correctly as well.  no response from the phone, and adb isn't detecting any devices... bah.
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17:02.38Willdarrrghhh: bcm4329?
17:03.04arrrghhhprobably, not sure what chipset this phone has.  RHOD400?
17:03.41WilldNot sure
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17:33.16[acl]bzo: whats the good news?
17:33.41bzonot much dood
17:33.56bzou got the headphones working?
17:34.49arrrghhhWilld, the interesting part is, despite the phone being completely unresponsive (other than kbd bl) i am still connected via wifi.  wouldn't be in this room right now if it wasn't up.
17:35.08arrrghhhbzo, seems to be... only for that silly extUSB dongle at the moment tho :P
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17:35.50bzothat is still a huge improvement
17:36.39arrrghhhheck yes
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17:38.14[acl]bzo: its a hack
17:39.00[acl]bzo: i need one of the sound guys to properly do it. I'm not sure how it all inteacts with userland but we are just handling everything in the kernel
17:39.21bzoI'll take it :) guess we can straighten it out when we fix 3.5mm
17:39.33bzonot sure if userland needs to be involved though
17:39.36[acl]bzo: i'm testing the 3.5mm but the blackstone guys seem to be using some headset mgr.. i dunno why since i dont think that even works for us..
17:39.51bzolast time I tried, i couldn't even boot with it
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17:40.02Alex[sp3dev]bzo: because it's htc-google-shit
17:40.09Alex[sp3dev]from the people-who-cannot-code
17:40.21bzoyeah, I was about to say look at Alex's tree for a working version
17:40.29Alex[sp3dev]it contains some subtle bugs in requesting irqs
17:40.36Alex[sp3dev]which causes it to freeze randomly
17:41.00bzoAlex, u get my email about the mailing list?
17:41.09Alex[sp3dev]and as for 'my' version, i have not figured out how to handle the mic button properly.
17:41.13Alex[sp3dev]bzo: i did
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17:41.41bzogood, I know you have some good opinions to contribute about this new 35 stuff
17:41.51[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: ahh you tried it? well even the path it mekes for userland doesnt match so its really not meant for us at all. we can fix it but then it would be like rewriting it.
17:42.04Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i tried what?
17:42.12[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: that headset mgr?
17:42.21[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: in rhod we are using the regular headset.c
17:42.32[acl]but dont know why the mgr is there. then i found out blackstone uses it
17:42.41Alex[sp3dev][acl]: sure i did. and have made a copy of regular headset and stripped out everything non-35 out of it
17:42.47Alex[sp3dev]i mean, non 35mm
17:43.06Alex[sp3dev]stereo headphones work on kovsky with jack detection
17:43.29bzoAlex - does the kov have that stupid ext-usb as well?
17:43.41Alex[sp3dev]bzo: unfortunately it does not
17:43.56[acl]ahh ic
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17:44.02bzoAlex, I think you mean fortunately :P
17:44.03arrrghhhi'd say that's forutnately.
17:44.05arrrghhhlol
17:44.05[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: so all you have is 35mm ?
17:44.11Alex[sp3dev][acl]: yep
17:44.13[acl]luck
17:44.16[acl]lucky
17:44.18[acl]we have both
17:44.25arrrghhhat least we have a 3.5mm... unlike our GSM RHOD bretheren.
17:44.35[acl]poor bastards
17:44.35Alex[sp3dev]bzo: unfortunately.. with extusb i could have an external uart and tv-out
17:44.44[acl]that is true
17:44.47arrrghhhindeed
17:44.48[acl]which we have no code for
17:44.50[acl]lol
17:44.52arrrghhhhahaha
17:44.54bzo[acl] guess that makes our headset stuff a bit more complicated
17:44.55[acl]but its there on the dll
17:44.56[acl]lol
17:45.12[acl]bzo: it does. in theory we can have sound coming from both usb and headphone
17:45.17[acl]at the same time !!!
17:45.25Alex[sp3dev]i wonder if we can haz uart on 35mm
17:45.30arrrghhhwhen is someone going to give Alex[sp3dev] a RHOD?  :P
17:45.45bzo[acl] how about different stream simultaneously? hehe
17:45.49Alex[sp3dev]i want hd2.. but don't tell cotulla ;)
17:45.55arrrghhhbwhahaha
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17:46.12bzoman if I wasn't stuck on cdma, hd2 would be damn tempting
17:46.17arrrghhhyea, i'm considering buying one and using it like JesusFreak does.  Not as a phone.
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17:46.26Alex[sp3dev]bzo: no cdma here at all...
17:46.33arrrghhhspeak of the devil.  were your ears burning JesusFreak316 ?
17:46.40[acl]Alex[sp3dev]; NOOO .. you cant leave.. if anything lets get u a blackstone :-)
17:46.46arrrghhhlol
17:47.06Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i am happy with kovs.. except it's build quality.. and i don't really need any more relics
17:47.36JesusFreak316lolwut?
17:47.41JesusFreak316Had to restart for updates.
17:47.49arrrghhhyou want a RHOD... it's a relic but not that old of a relic yet :P
17:47.50[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: haha.. ok .. anyways so you are using the headset_35_jack or headset_35_remote ? i dont want to introduce new code no one else will use. plus we can remove that mgr and gpio hedaset
17:48.05arrrghhhJesusFreak316, just sayin i was thinking about buying an hd2 and using it like you do.  not as a phone.
17:48.16JesusFreak316O.o
17:48.16arrrghhhas a uhm... iPod Touch basically I guess :P
17:48.44JesusFreak316You know the implications of that, right? All your mocking of me goes to waste. :P
17:48.50arrrghhhbzo & i are griping that they're gsm only.
17:49.00arrrghhhyes but i have a smartphone that is active and used on a cell network.
17:49.07arrrghhhso no, my fun makings are still valid :D
17:49.16JesusFreak316Eh, sorta.
17:49.23Alex[sp3dev][acl]: you'll have to introduce new code. i had to make snd.c import is_headset_35mm() (or some other method).. unfortunately the only good solution to our problems is to rewrite all the code and make the inversion of control (so that the board registers headset, and headset registers qdsp). i want to do that some time
17:49.23arrrghhhi'm going to justify it anyway i can.
17:49.45[acl]Alex[sp3dev]; damnit.. i was afraid of tht..
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17:50.25[acl]i rather modify headset.c instead of adding is_headset_35. This way we can make a super headset :-p..
17:50.48[acl]ehh but then again i have microp to worry about. effin headset uses microp for some reason
17:50.54Alex[sp3dev][acl]: this way you can make a super-spaghetti code. i'd even say, pasta code ;)
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17:51.32[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: or worse case rhod have its own code which i think it already does.. jeez what a pain.
17:52.12Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i mean, it is uncool to have everything in one file. makes you a huge pita when you need to update the code
17:54.24[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: it wont be, we will have to introduce another file, but it has to interact with headset.c sinec it doesnt have the extenral 3.5mm state in there. It does for the internal 3.5mm via the converter but not the external jack.
17:55.00[acl]or i could just leave it alone .. do we really need 3.5mm ? lol
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17:56.26Alex[sp3dev][acl]: anyway. i'd prefer to 'shut up and hack'. i mean, when i get back to hacking msm (well.. school starts on monday, so i'll be busy for some week or two), i will rewrite the whole amss, qdsp and sound code. and i think we really need to move to 35 and finally fix microp, mmc and other things that've been bugging us
17:57.11Alex[sp3dev]i think it's high time i stopped using X1 as a phone. lol
17:57.16[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: hack it is.. :-) .. as long as the functionality is there re-writing can always come later.
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17:58.23[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: no more x1.. telling u.. lets get a nice blackstone in your hand so you can fix that mess :-p
17:58.55Alex[sp3dev][acl]: blackstone sucks. it doesn't have that nice 310 DPI screen
17:59.03[acl]haha
17:59.05[acl]picky picky
17:59.44Alex[sp3dev]jeez. people start selling used HD2s for the price of a new DHD
18:00.32[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: not sure if emwe told you, but i think he was able to boot to .35 on the topaz.
18:00.41Alex[sp3dev][acl]: he did tell me
18:02.27Alex[sp3dev]i wonder why those phones cost as if they were made of gold but are made of shit
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18:17.42RaiderXhi
18:18.18MN_hey
18:19.23RaiderXhow r u
18:19.31MN_im good you
18:19.50RaiderXim good :)
18:20.12MN_you testing wp7
18:20.13RaiderXlovin WP7
18:20.16RaiderXyea
18:20.27RaiderXbut microsoft activation systems are down so cant get windows live yet
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18:29.31[acl]bzo: looks like 3.5 is working throught he converter with no issues. tests were good.. mic as well
18:29.49bzonice
18:30.19bzois 3.5mm jack headphone only? no mic?
18:31.31[acl]bzo: works with mic but the buttons dont work ..
18:31.49[acl]but someone said the buttons dont do anything on wince as well so i they they are meant for the 3.5 external
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19:53.33RaiderXstick with WP7
19:57.38fakkerim thinkign the same
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23:27.00SamsunguyJust a question to everyone was wp7 officially released or was it just leaked?
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23:48.05MassStashjust magloaded buddy's HD2
23:48.29MassStasheverytime i touch that thing i'm saltier and saltier with the rhodium
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