| 00:00.03 | Apocs | is someone there? |
| 00:00.47 | Cotulla | no, all died |
| 00:01.06 | Cotulla | :( |
| 00:01.56 | DaveZworka | :D |
| 00:02.15 | DaveZworka | Cotulla can't die! :P |
| 00:02.37 | nyl | cotulla do yo know where is that nasty lcd density setting on 2.3? |
| 00:02.39 | nyl | :( |
| 00:02.39 | |Atom| | most died |
| 00:03.10 | nyl | i need to change to 16/8 |
| 00:03.12 | nyl | :( |
| 00:08.09 | DaveZworka | lcd density You can change in build.prop |
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| 00:08.46 | arrrghhh | sykosoft: i think you'd have to modify the kernel, but I'm not sure TBH. |
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| 00:14.00 | gauner1986 | cotulla: ever seen that: E/copybit ( 124): copyBits failed (Invalid argument) ? |
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| 00:23.44 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2! what's up man! |
| 00:23.47 | WisTilt2 | bzo: thanks for that test last night. seems device is not staying asleep, although the panel is staying powered off. been crazy 1st monday of the year so been tied up all day but going to make some changes that should fix that problem. |
| 00:24.07 | WisTilt2 | hi arrrghhh. what a day |
| 00:24.14 | arrrghhh | ha, tell me about it. |
| 00:24.22 | bzo | WisTilt2: interesting |
| 00:24.56 | bzo | incidentally, the drain rate was slightly better last night - 3-4% |
| 00:25.26 | WisTilt2 | bzo: something is causing suspend to abort frequently as you can see in that dump you sent. |
| 00:26.38 | bzo | WisTilt2: you think it has to do with your recent changes? |
| 00:27.02 | WisTilt2 | im seeing same thing in my dmesg so wondering if kbd backlight code needs to be looked at to see if its affecting some area that isnt able to stay shutdown possibly. |
| 00:27.24 | WisTilt2 | going to remove kbd backlight and test for 15mins to see. |
| 00:27.44 | sykosoft | fantastic. looks like something just borked my sd card filesystem |
| 00:27.46 | sykosoft | that's gonna be fun |
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| 00:31.19 | RaiderX303 | HD2 recovery released |
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| 00:46.07 | Mjuksel | hi :) ! |
| 00:46.25 | Mjuksel | can anyone provide me a link for FRG83-Build Froyo2.2.1 [4-12-2010] R6 |
| 00:48.04 | arrrghhh | sounds old |
| 00:48.16 | Mjuksel | hmm |
| 00:48.17 | arrrghhh | probably in neopeek's forum |
| 00:48.25 | Mjuksel | yeah but theres no download link :) |
| 00:48.37 | arrrghhh | probably because it's so old :P |
| 00:48.37 | Mjuksel | i was searching for a rom for my Blackstone |
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| 00:48.51 | Mjuksel | and that appears to be the only i could find with a rom instead of SD version |
| 00:48.57 | arrrghhh | Mjuksel: no ROMs yet. |
| 00:49.04 | arrrghhh | that's not a ROM either |
| 00:49.05 | Mjuksel | :( |
| 00:49.08 | arrrghhh | it still runs off the SD |
| 00:49.09 | Mjuksel | oh |
| 00:49.10 | Mjuksel | ok :P |
| 00:49.13 | Mjuksel | and uhm |
| 00:49.16 | arrrghhh | jeez man why would you want to flash something that doesn't work fully? |
| 00:49.29 | Mjuksel | sorryy mate kinda new in this stuff |
| 00:49.42 | arrrghhh | that's fine |
| 00:49.52 | arrrghhh | i still don't get why you'd want to flash something that only partially works :P |
| 00:50.03 | Mjuksel | i didnt know that :p |
| 00:50.03 | arrrghhh | i mean i love android, but i don't want my phone to be unusable. |
| 00:50.07 | arrrghhh | wtf? |
| 00:50.11 | arrrghhh | have you never run android? |
| 00:50.16 | Mjuksel | yes i have |
| 00:50.17 | Mjuksel | but |
| 00:50.21 | Mjuksel | the things i need work :P |
| 00:50.26 | Mjuksel | i can call, i can text.. |
| 00:50.34 | Mjuksel | facebook/msn/twitter etc |
| 00:50.35 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 00:50.37 | arrrghhh | but for how long |
| 00:50.38 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 00:50.43 | Mjuksel | yeah |
| 00:50.44 | arrrghhh | we're working on NAND |
| 00:50.46 | arrrghhh | not for blackstone |
| 00:50.51 | arrrghhh | but it'll come eventually i'm sure |
| 00:50.54 | Mjuksel | my battery life sucks when doing on SD |
| 00:51.02 | arrrghhh | it's going to suck on NAND too |
| 00:51.09 | Mjuksel | oh |
| 00:51.09 | arrrghhh | there's a bunch of things that still need fixing |
| 00:51.15 | Mjuksel | okay.. |
| 00:51.25 | Mjuksel | is that also on other phones? |
| 00:51.29 | arrrghhh | what |
| 00:51.31 | arrrghhh | fixing? |
| 00:51.34 | Mjuksel | the power usage.. |
| 00:51.36 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 00:51.51 | Mjuksel | my friends HD2 seems to make it over 2 days on Froyo 2.2.1 build :o |
| 00:51.52 | arrrghhh | there's some bleeding-edge code that's getting us close to winmo sleep drain |
| 00:51.55 | Mjuksel | on sd :o |
| 00:51.56 | arrrghhh | uhm |
| 00:51.58 | arrrghhh | that's an hd2 dude |
| 00:52.06 | Mjuksel | yeah :) |
| 00:52.07 | arrrghhh | not really the same class of phone now is it. |
| 00:52.08 | Cotulla | :D |
| 00:52.12 | Mjuksel | lol |
| 00:52.12 | Mjuksel | :p |
| 00:52.15 | Mjuksel | so |
| 00:52.16 | Cotulla | HD2 rulezz |
| 00:52.19 | arrrghhh | lol you can thank that guy Cotulla for the hd2 hotness. |
| 00:52.27 | Mjuksel | well glad im getting a new phone in like 3 months |
| 00:52.33 | Amander | what PHONE |
| 00:52.33 | arrrghhh | uhm... ok? |
| 00:52.34 | Amander | WHAT PHONE |
| 00:52.36 | Cotulla | so sold TP2 and buy TP7 |
| 00:52.38 | Cotulla | :P |
| 00:52.39 | Mjuksel | LOL |
| 00:52.42 | Mjuksel | DUNNO :O |
| 00:52.44 | Mjuksel | i can pick |
| 00:52.45 | Mjuksel | :p |
| 00:52.47 | Amander | TP7 = suckzorz |
| 00:52.49 | Mjuksel | dunno which yet |
| 00:53.10 | Cotulla | u think so |
| 00:53.13 | Cotulla | it's nice |
| 00:53.15 | Cotulla | :P |
| 00:53.19 | Cotulla | or deisre Z |
| 00:53.22 | Mjuksel | what do you guys advise :) |
| 00:53.28 | fakker | nokia 5110 |
| 00:53.30 | arrrghhh | evo shift looks sweet |
| 00:53.35 | Amander | how so? |
| 00:53.35 | Cotulla | Nokia 3310 |
| 00:53.36 | Cotulla | :P |
| 00:53.39 | arrrghhh | not sure i'm going to pull the trigger on that one yet. |
| 00:53.39 | fakker | nice |
| 00:53.41 | Amander | the shift? |
| 00:53.42 | fakker | i had that one also |
| 00:53.51 | Amander | i wonder how people fill your heads with stuff like this |
| 00:54.02 | Amander | like.. everyone that decided the HERO WAS THE ALMIGHTIES CELL PHONE |
| 00:54.06 | Amander | wtf was that all about? |
| 00:54.08 | arrrghhh | Amander: who did that? |
| 00:54.11 | Amander | everyone |
| 00:54.12 | arrrghhh | idiots. |
| 00:54.16 | Amander | jumped on the hero bandwagon |
| 00:54.22 | Amander | when the moment was far superior to it |
| 00:54.25 | arrrghhh | once you learn that everyone's an idiot, you'll be much happier. |
| 00:54.27 | Mjuksel | lol |
| 00:54.28 | Mjuksel | ! |
| 00:54.29 | atoore | Cotulla, thanks for everythiing you've done for hd2. I wanted to thank you when your free and done with everyrything. Did not want to bother ya |
| 00:54.35 | Mjuksel | the Touch Pro2 is slow too :O ? |
| 00:54.36 | Cotulla | thnks |
| 00:54.44 | Amander | touch pro 2 is a bit on the dirty side |
| 00:54.47 | Cotulla | yeah TP2 should be f* slow |
| 00:54.55 | Cotulla | big screeen slow cpu :P |
| 00:54.59 | Amander | HD2 was nice |
| 00:55.00 | Cotulla | ever dmd was slow |
| 00:55.01 | Amander | i had it |
| 00:55.03 | Amander | has evo now |
| 00:55.08 | fakker | burps beer |
| 00:55.10 | Amander | i loved the HD2 with android though :( just bad service |
| 00:55.12 | fakker | i got fucking work |
| 00:55.15 | fakker | tomorrow/today |
| 00:55.16 | fakker | :( |
| 00:55.20 | Cotulla | looking to GDB and says... heh... |
| 00:55.33 | fakker | you killed box.noobhands |
| 00:55.37 | Cotulla | u got? |
| 00:55.39 | Cotulla | work? |
| 00:55.51 | Mjuksel | Amander |
| 00:55.53 | Cotulla | traffic? |
| 00:55.53 | Mjuksel | bad service ? |
| 00:55.54 | fakker | yeah - no job end of january tho :) |
| 00:56.04 | fakker | no idea - i think it might have killed that box |
| 00:56.07 | fakker | i'll check tomorrow |
| 00:56.07 | Cotulla | tell me traffic |
| 00:56.11 | Cotulla | :D |
| 00:56.37 | fakker | Cotulla, well on the 30th - it brought all of them to a near stand still at one stage |
| 00:56.52 | fakker | 1 uk, 2 russian, 2 german, 1 american |
| 00:57.16 | Cotulla | I think there awful traffic |
| 00:57.20 | gauner1986 | are the sources of bravo copybit available? |
| 00:59.02 | fakker | fuck i don't see myself sleeping til 4am |
| 00:59.10 | fakker | then wake up at 7 |
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| 00:59.17 | Cotulla | :P |
| 00:59.33 | fakker | plus people will talk with me - they wanna see my new baby |
| 00:59.38 | fakker | (tablet) |
| 00:59.43 | Cotulla | haHA |
| 00:59.46 | Cotulla | drop it now |
| 00:59.49 | Cotulla | save urself |
| 00:59.50 | Cotulla | :) |
| 00:59.51 | fakker | PFFF |
| 00:59.58 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.13 | fakker | 4am for you already? |
| 01:00.17 | fakker | go to bed young man |
| 01:00.21 | Cotulla | a.out: malloc.c:3096: sYSMALLOc: Assertion `(old_top == (((mbinptr) (((char *) &((av)->bins[((1) - 1) * 2])) - __builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chun |
| 01:00.21 | Cotulla | k, fd)))) && old_size == 0) || ((unsigned long) (old_size) >= (unsigned long)((((__builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk, fd_nextsize))+((2 * (sizeof |
| 01:00.21 | Cotulla | (size_t))) - 1)) & ~((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1))) && ((old_top)->size & 0x1) && ((unsigned long)old_end & pagemask) == 0)' failed. |
| 01:00.26 | Cotulla | anybody can said |
| 01:00.33 | Cotulla | that is wrong? :o :o |
| 01:00.34 | nineX_ | fakker |
| 01:00.37 | nineX_ | what tab did you get |
| 01:00.50 | fakker | nineX_, eu version of the viewsonic thing on xda-devs |
| 01:00.56 | nineX_ | OMFG YES |
| 01:01.02 | nineX_ | the vega?? |
| 01:01.04 | fakker | yeah |
| 01:01.04 | fakker | ;] |
| 01:01.07 | nineX_ | NICE |
| 01:01.10 | nineX_ | i got the gtab |
| 01:01.12 | fakker | :D |
| 01:01.16 | fakker | we can be cousins! |
| 01:01.19 | nineX_ | you in #tegratab ? |
| 01:01.24 | fakker | nope |
| 01:01.30 | fakker | i am now :p |
| 01:02.54 | WisTilt2 | bzo: may have found whats causing wake/sleep cycles. you want to try this image for 15mins or so to see if you still see that in dmesg? |
| 01:03.17 | bzo | yeah sure, pm me the link |
| 01:03.31 | WisTilt2 | you want modules also or just zImage? |
| 01:03.49 | bzo | either way is fine |
| 01:07.14 | WisTilt2 | bzo: looks like you have autobl off in your dmesg btw? |
| 01:07.45 | sykosoft | *sigh* |
| 01:07.59 | bzo | heh, probably forgot to turn it back on again after it was fixed on the android side |
| 01:08.30 | bzo | you're talking about the winmo setting right? |
| 01:08.38 | WisTilt2 | shouldnt see microp-klt: Setting lcd-backlight brightness2 to: 3/10 in dmesg when its on. that shouldnt make any diff though on this battery issue. |
| 01:09.03 | WisTilt2 | no, in android on the display brightness setting, auto should be checked. |
| 01:09.21 | WisTilt2 | in winmo doesnt matter anymore if its on or off when booting haret. |
| 01:09.34 | bzo | hmm, don't remember changing that. maybe because I'm running an older rootfs? |
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| 01:10.51 | WisTilt2 | which one? im running 11/15 rootfs here, which i think is the latest. dont know which one stinebd added that in userland though. |
| 01:13.09 | bzo | timestamp on mine is 10/21 |
| 01:14.13 | bzo | looks like autobl was added 10/23 |
| 01:14.39 | WisTilt2 | might want to get the 11/15 one. i think autobl was committed after 10/21 i dont remember. |
| 01:14.49 | bzo | there there were some fixes to it after that as well |
| 01:15.33 | bzo | since I'm up and running already, I'll try a test with this combo |
| 01:17.18 | WisTilt2 | i noticed pwrsink is setting 1000ua then 7000ua also in sleep. dont remember seeing 1000ua before, which would be better if it stayed there. |
| 01:18.02 | nyl | http://estb.msn.com/i/FC/14E0FFAAA7F06FEE9FE8FA7174BBE2.jpg |
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| 01:18.23 | nyl | damn my 1st phone |
| 01:18.24 | nyl | :| |
| 01:18.57 | gauner1986 | did you flash roms on it? |
| 01:19.11 | nyl | yea |
| 01:19.34 | nyl | you could make it animate some penises on the screen |
| 01:20.06 | nyl | well a phone like that |
| 01:20.12 | nyl | was like iphone4 |
| 01:20.36 | fakker | nn |
| 01:20.51 | nyl | in 94 |
| 01:20.52 | nyl | :p |
| 01:20.55 | gauner1986 | goodnight fakker |
| 01:21.05 | nyl | nighty night |
| 01:21.06 | nyl | :p |
| 01:25.59 | WisTilt2 | bzo: im heading home and will be back on in about 1.5hrs. check your dmesg and see if the mddi_client_power on/off is only happening one time each wake/sleep and not at all once in sleep. ill catch you later if you're on, thanks. |
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| 01:31.46 | Samsunguy | Anybody know if I can flash roms from recovery on hd2 |
| 01:37.01 | RaiderX303 | you can flash 1 |
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| 02:06.50 | mes | anyone know what is causing this debug message:D/Sensors ( 1344): Or not |
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| 04:38.22 | WisTilt2 | bzo: thanks for the dump. i removed all the kbd backlight code and no change. have no idea whats cycling suspend/wake but its tied to PowerManagerService which seems to start the cycle each time. Are you seeing this same pattern in your kernel? |
| 04:39.03 | bzo | you did? the kb backlight is working |
| 04:39.21 | WisTilt2 | on my end, not the one you last pulled |
| 04:39.58 | bzo | ah, ok. Well, the waking doesn't seem excessive |
| 04:40.02 | WisTilt2 | that one you got i removed some of the suspend code for backlight without disabling the on/off sections. |
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| 04:40.25 | bzo | I think there is some other drain bc the phone doesn't feel completely cold |
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| 04:42.41 | WisTilt2 | i ran 1hr in sleep and logs show tons of resumes and suspends, none of which are triggering the mddi power stuff at all though. sometimes minutes apart but lots of 5-10secs off then back on then off over and over for several minutes. |
| 04:43.26 | bzo | that is probably normal. things need to wake up every so often to execute some task |
| 04:43.36 | bzo | even with the waking, you're getting good drain, right? |
| 04:44.30 | WisTilt2 | dont know what changed drain to go back to 3% again though on your device. im still seeing 1% at most and less than that more often. |
| 04:44.54 | WisTilt2 | or did you ever see less than 3%? |
| 04:45.26 | bzo | haven't seen much better than 2.5%-3%, but that's w/o your panel power off code |
| 04:45.51 | WisTilt2 | my phone is actually cold after being in sleep for 15mins or more, like its turned off. |
| 04:46.09 | WisTilt2 | lots of others report the same so strange. |
| 04:46.27 | bzo | reports of good or bad? |
| 04:46.43 | WisTilt2 | good, cold and much lower drain so far. |
| 04:47.21 | bzo | arrrgggh said he's getting about 20 hrs I think. Maybe it's the cdma devices with the drain |
| 04:47.46 | WisTilt2 | you're running the current git right and are you running that camera stuff in yours? |
| 04:48.24 | bzo | I'm running the jbrun tree. I think it is slightly better than the main tree as far as power use due to better clock control |
| 04:49.42 | WisTilt2 | i need to send you the panel power code to add to your current kernel and see if you see a big drop with your current setup. |
| 04:50.21 | bzo | yeah, that seems like a good way to narrow down the factors |
| 04:50.44 | bzo | is there any possibility of the keybd light stuff drawing power? |
| 04:52.00 | WisTilt2 | not in sleep. actually when it times out and turns off the bl its off and no code runs until it needs to be turned on again. both the microp side and gpio are shutdown when it turns off. |
| 04:52.52 | WisTilt2 | theres not too many lines of code to add for shutting down vregs and panel. let me pull that out and send it to you to add. |
| 04:54.56 | WisTilt2 | man i forget what device you have? not a rhod 100 right? |
| 04:55.04 | bzo | rhod400 |
| 04:55.13 | WisTilt2 | lol, i cant keep track of who has what |
| 05:02.21 | WisTilt2 | does that tree have a different board-htcrhodium-panel.c than the main tree? |
| 05:06.10 | bzo | yes, it was synced fairly recently |
| 05:06.21 | bzo | er, I mean it is the same |
| 05:07.36 | WisTilt2 | ill email you the sections of that file that need to be changed then. just replace each of these functions. |
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| 05:14.22 | WisTilt2 | bzo: sent. insert lines 1-40 then just replace all the other functions with these. |
| 05:14.49 | bzo | ok, I'll give it a try |
| 05:16.35 | WisTilt2 | if that doesnt drop your drain with your current tree ill be at a loss since this powers down everything panel related. |
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| 05:20.29 | bzo | WisTilt2 - I think you might have a little bug in mddi_client_uninit() |
| 05:20.38 | WisTilt2 | ? |
| 05:20.55 | bzo | is nov_init_seq supposed to be nov_deinit_seq? |
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| 05:21.56 | WisTilt2 | nov_deinit_seq and nov_init_seq1, there are other init sequences for rhod 100 and others not in here. |
| 05:22.47 | bzo | right, but the loop is incrementing to ARRAY_SIZE(nov_init_seq), but referencing the nov_deinit_seq array |
| 05:23.09 | bzo | I assume nov_init_seq is a lot bigger, so it is probably writing a bunch of extra junk |
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| 05:24.05 | WisTilt2 | hmm, yeah you're right. working because init is larger yes so wont kill it but does need to be changed. |
| 05:24.45 | WisTilt2 | good eye:) |
| 05:24.58 | bzo | the results are unpredictable... |
| 05:25.28 | bzo | if for example the init seq happens to be in memory right after the deinit, we will find ourselves turning on the panel again |
| 05:27.54 | WisTilt2 | you could be right there. |
| 05:29.56 | WisTilt2 | actually, those are just writing registers not memory but could be changing the state of bits in registers that were already configured. |
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| 05:42.49 | bzo | WisTilt2: where does vreg_lcd_1 and 2 get initialized? |
| 05:43.30 | WisTilt2 | did i not send the init_panel section? |
| 05:43.50 | bzo | doesn't look like it |
| 05:44.57 | WisTilt2 | not much sleep here sorry. add this to htcrhod_init_panel |
| 05:44.58 | WisTilt2 | vreg_lcd_1 = vreg_get(0, "gp2"); |
| 05:44.59 | WisTilt2 | if (IS_ERR(vreg_lcd_1)) |
| 05:44.59 | WisTilt2 | return PTR_ERR(vreg_lcd_1); |
| 05:44.59 | WisTilt2 | vreg_lcd_2 = vreg_get(0, "gp4"); |
| 05:45.00 | WisTilt2 | if (IS_ERR(vreg_lcd_2)) |
| 05:45.02 | WisTilt2 | return PTR_ERR(vreg_lcd_2); |
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| 05:46.40 | bzo | probably why it rebooted :) |
| 05:47.05 | WisTilt2 | yeah sorry bout that |
| 05:47.10 | Amander | whores |
| 05:47.35 | bzo | WisTilt2 np |
| 05:51.35 | bzo | WisTilt2: ah, browsing the nand tree, ic that [acl] is to blame for that problem in uninit |
| 05:52.33 | bzo | anyhow, looks like I'm up and running now |
| 05:52.35 | WisTilt2 | good. this is his modded nand stuff |
| 05:53.05 | bzo | I'm gonna hop off now, I'll let you now how this test goes |
| 05:53.55 | WisTilt2 | ok me too, need sleep. catch you tomorrow night i wont be around during the day |
| 05:54.08 | bzo | ok, ttyl |
| 05:54.18 | WisTilt2 | nite |
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| 13:42.51 | gauner1986 | hi guys |
| 13:43.02 | pkirsche | hi |
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| 13:46.28 | pkirsche | gauner, are you planning to release a kernel with extended battery support (even if only experimental)? |
| 13:48.58 | gauner1986 | no, i'm pretty busy with university stuff atm |
| 13:49.07 | gauner1986 | maybe next month |
| 13:49.24 | pkirsche | good to hear :) |
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| 14:31.53 | noobhands | back to uni already gauner1986 ? |
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| 14:38.55 | gauner1986 | no, but loads of homework to do |
| 14:38.56 | gauner1986 | :( |
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| 14:46.17 | noobhands | ah |
| 14:46.26 | noobhands | i'm at work, sux4u |
| 14:46.27 | noobhands | :D |
| 14:46.28 | gauner1986 | and have to search a flat in hamburg |
| 14:46.38 | noobhands | stay in hotel |
| 14:46.45 | gauner1986 | haha, for 5 months? |
| 14:46.50 | noobhands | yea |
| 14:46.58 | gauner1986 | if you pay |
| 14:46.59 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 14:47.03 | noobhands | ask your dad |
| 14:47.07 | noobhands | sell BMW |
| 14:50.17 | MattOG | gauner1986: Job done.... now you can concentrate on homework.... http://www.propertyindex.com/HS4426662/Vacant-Refurbished-1-Bed-Apartments/100/ |
| 14:51.02 | Necrosan | why are your hands noob? |
| 14:51.49 | gauner1986 | mattog: maybe i should add that my budget is not that high :P |
| 14:52.32 | MattOG | lol, i'll chip in a fiver for ya |
| 14:52.52 | MattOG | only need 26000 more |
| 14:53.12 | noobhands | Necrosan: because they're naughty |
| 14:53.42 | Necrosan | haha |
| 14:53.45 | Necrosan | Awesum |
| 14:54.37 | noobhands | you wanna try them? |
| 14:54.43 | noobhands | wiggles his hands like a pervert |
| 14:54.44 | arrrghhh | creepy |
| 14:54.48 | noobhands | haha arrrghhh |
| 14:54.52 | noobhands | you read my mind |
| 14:55.02 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 14:55.54 | arrrghhh | there's build talk in -chat, and molestation talk in the main channel. what's wrong with this picture? :P |
| 14:56.06 | noobhands | im in both |
| 14:57.28 | DaveZworka | can I ask You for sth ? repacked system.img by me not working |
| 14:58.06 | arrrghhh | DaveZworka, sounds like you buggered something. take it to -chat pls. |
| 14:58.54 | DaveZworka | ok |
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| 15:04.33 | noobhands | haha, an american using the word bugger |
| 15:04.36 | noobhands | how very british of you! |
| 15:06.12 | arrrghhh | yea well. |
| 15:06.24 | arrrghhh | shhhhh you're not supposed to know i'm american :P |
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| 15:20.24 | RaiderX | hi |
| 15:21.10 | RaiderX | gauner1986, think it would be possible to get your rom into 250mb without any pre-made symlinks? |
| 15:21.18 | RaiderX | ur HD v |
| 15:21.22 | RaiderX | v0.3 |
| 15:21.56 | RaiderX | i tried but radio broke for some reason |
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| 15:34.26 | gauner1986 | raiderx: dunno.. why would you want to drop any symlinks? |
| 15:34.40 | RaiderX | coz cant keep symlinks in zip |
| 15:34.55 | RaiderX | would wana keep them to as little as possible as updater-script would need to remake them |
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| 16:15.26 | gauner1986 | raiderx: then a zip is probably bad for updating it |
| 16:15.38 | gauner1986 | raiderx: just include a tar in that zip :P |
| 16:15.51 | RaiderX | heh |
| 16:15.59 | RaiderX | i think its the way i repacked it |
| 16:16.18 | RaiderX | i used a squashfs file for each folder instead of one then symlinking from original location |
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| 16:55.00 | RaiderX | hi |
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| 17:05.37 | bzo | hey [acl] |
| 17:05.44 | [acl] | bzo: sup my good man |
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| 17:05.55 | bzo | wanted to ask you about panel stuff |
| 17:06.23 | [acl] | bzo: sure.. hope i can answer |
| 17:06.35 | bzo | does your nand tree power down the panel yet? |
| 17:07.02 | [acl] | bzo: i havent commited the full panel down. Still waiting for wistilt so we can finilize that code. You mean the vreg portion right? |
| 17:07.20 | bzo | yeah, I was wondering why your stuff had gpios while wis had vreg |
| 17:08.00 | [acl] | bzo: his has gpio to. But for nand we need all gpios. Had to harvest those from wince. The vreg needs to be added. That is all from the topaz code. |
| 17:08.12 | bzo | so we need both? |
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| 17:08.26 | [acl] | bzo: for nand you need 3. |
| 17:08.39 | bzo | by both, I mean gpio+vreg |
| 17:08.56 | [acl] | bzo: yes. you do. |
| 17:09.24 | bzo | ah, well that'a clue. Trying to figure out why the power consumption on power off doesn't seem as good on the rhod400 |
| 17:09.29 | bzo | his latest code only has vreg off |
| 17:10.29 | bzo | [acl] so are the gpios in the nand tree for 400/500? |
| 17:10.39 | [acl] | bzo: not sure. i just poach the dll for the actual stuff done. :-p. but wistilt has the full functionality working on haret. I havent gotten all that on nand yet. the vreg portion that is |
| 17:10.46 | [acl] | bzo: yes .. 400/500 |
| 17:11.16 | bzo | well, maybe I'll try adding the gpio stuff from the nand tree to wistilt's power off |
| 17:11.41 | [acl] | bzo: i havent seen his patch yet. so i dont know how its looking. |
| 17:12.00 | bzo | right now, for panel off he is only turning off 2 vreg |
| 17:12.56 | bzo | gp2 + gp4 |
| 17:13.03 | [acl] | ahh |
| 17:13.12 | [acl] | thats cuz he has the gpio on the unblank and blank |
| 17:13.25 | [acl] | well has has 1 gpio |
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| 17:13.38 | [acl] | but that didnt work for us on nand. so had to use both |
| 17:13.41 | bzo | I only see remote_write on the blank/unblank |
| 17:13.51 | [acl] | really. ok im looking at the old code. maybe that changed then |
| 17:14.15 | bzo | maybe it's not needed for the gsm rhods, but needed for the 400/500? |
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| 17:14.32 | [acl] | bzo: not sure. I would need a gsm rhod dll to look into to |
| 17:14.47 | bzo | anyhow, thanks for the info |
| 17:15.00 | [acl] | bzo: you have a gsm disptools.dll? |
| 17:15.16 | bzo | no |
| 17:15.56 | bzo | wistilt2 must have looked into it though, we'll bug him later when he comes on |
| 17:16.14 | bzo | [acl] btw, I saw a little bug in the nand rhod panel file, line 175 |
| 17:16.21 | [acl] | oo |
| 17:16.24 | [acl] | what is it.. |
| 17:16.37 | nyl | who wants to help on seeding my torrent: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850882 |
| 17:16.50 | bzo | on deinit, looping through deinit table, but using table size of init table |
| 17:17.12 | [acl] | bzo: jeez im a effin baboon sometimes |
| 17:17.26 | [acl] | bzo: thanks. Need to get that fixed. |
| 17:17.54 | bzo | doesn't seem to be obviously screwing anything up, but the effect can be unpredictable |
| 17:18.10 | [acl] | bzo: yup. |
| 17:18.48 | bzo | so Jbruneaux should get his rhod soon, will be nice to have someone with disasm skillz on board :) |
| 17:19.13 | [acl] | bzo: cant wait. our team will be solid |
| 17:20.41 | bzo | did you see the logs yesterday, apparently both of us were enticed by the mythical smi2 bank |
| 17:21.00 | bzo | damn, what a waste of time |
| 17:21.15 | [acl] | i didnt.. |
| 17:21.28 | bzo | no? emwe thought you had |
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| 17:23.25 | [acl] | bzo: ahh .. nahh that wasnt me. I forgot someone did tried that tho. |
| 17:24.00 | bzo | lol, maybe he was thinking of me the first time when chasing the mythical 64mb smi1 |
| 17:24.37 | [acl] | could be. |
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| 17:27.35 | [acl] | bzo: still butchering the camera ? |
| 17:28.00 | bzo | handed off all my stuff to jb |
| 17:28.08 | bzo | he's trying to get the gpios set up correctly based on the dll |
| 17:28.18 | bzo | but it's a bitch actually gettting it working |
| 17:28.43 | [acl] | hmm |
| 17:29.10 | bzo | the code I have working is a bit more of a hack |
| 17:29.19 | [acl] | most of this stuff is |
| 17:29.20 | [acl] | lol |
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| 17:30.03 | bzo | yeah. lol, my working code is based mostly on experimentation, so I can't necessarily explain why it works that way |
| 17:30.18 | [acl] | haha |
| 17:30.23 | [acl] | but it works.. |
| 17:30.49 | bzo | so anyway, I'm just dabbling in helping out with camera and now this panel power stuff |
| 17:31.32 | [acl] | bzo: well the panel power (not yet commited) is working on nand. But im waiting for the autobl portion which wistilt has done without microp. |
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| 17:32.10 | new_ | who is here |
| 17:32.24 | bzo | [acl] yeah, the power stuff seems to work on haret rhod400/500 as well, it's just puzzling why we aren't getting the power savings we're expecting |
| 17:33.33 | new_ | how much would I have to pay to get a full functioning version of this to work on rhodium 400 |
| 17:33.52 | [acl] | bzo: interesting. let me take a quick look at the clock code |
| 17:34.22 | bzo | [acl] that's what this latest test is about. I grafted wistilt's panel power code onto the jb tree |
| 17:34.48 | bzo | power seems to be much better than off the main tree |
| 17:36.10 | [acl] | bzo: looks like clocks kill pmdh and mdp like they should. So its not that |
| 17:37.10 | bzo | what kind of battery draw do you see on nand? Wis is saying he's down to less than 1% per hour |
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| 17:37.54 | [acl] | bzo: i wish i had the time to actually measure that. I will have to ask the fellas who test it aggressively. |
| 17:38.32 | bzo | on this latest test I'm less than 2% and hour so that's not too bad |
| 17:38.32 | new_ | is anyone working on the camera and bluetooth functions? |
| 17:39.24 | bzo | new_ you should read xda-developers.com, there is more info there |
| 17:39.43 | [acl] | bzo: this is based on the buggy batt meter ? we need to get camro back on that |
| 17:40.34 | bzo | [acl] yeah, I think we lost camro after he bricked his phone |
| 17:40.58 | bzo | but jb was actually the one that started the battery meter effort by disasm the win dll |
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| 17:41.15 | bzo | I dunno how much of that ended up in the final code, camro was really intent on using is spreadsheet |
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| 17:45.39 | [acl] | bzo: ahh ic. didnt know jb was involved |
| 17:46.20 | bzo | well, I dunno if he was in the end... |
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| 17:51.23 | bzo | [acl] u look any more at the fb frame rate? |
| 17:52.20 | [acl] | bzo: yeah .. actually emwe has had success getting past 30 with the evo changes |
| 17:52.27 | [acl] | bzo: limit is on the panel itself |
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| 17:53.26 | bzo | [acl] it seems very odd to me that we are seeing such discrete fp values in fps2d |
| 17:53.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: hi. any great news? |
| 17:54.05 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sup dood. nahh i havent worked at all. effin work ruining my life. |
| 17:54.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok. me neither. playing with my loox now.. the effin touchscreen over ssp is driving me mad |
| 17:55.48 | [acl] | bzo: you can help too. the changes are simple. Look at the toastcfh evo panel changes. need to modidfy the mddi init seq |
| 17:56.06 | lolz | I kinda need some help with the squashing..so, after i did 'unsquashfs' i wanted to squshfs but i couldn't |
| 17:56.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | was that mksquashfs? |
| 17:57.42 | bzo | [acl] that may not be a bad idea. With the 10 minute reboot cycles, it would be much more efficient to try a bunch of changes at once, lol |
| 17:58.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | bzo: don't forget the murphy's law |
| 17:58.04 | bzo | camera, panel power and panel frame rate |
| 17:58.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | when you apply multiple patches at once, the kernel hangs |
| 17:58.30 | bzo | true probably 3^3 more chance of things going wrong |
| 17:58.52 | [acl] | bzo: maybe you need our own set of pigs to help testing |
| 17:59.29 | lolz | help with that squshfs ? |
| 18:00.43 | bzo | [acl] wat? that would mean I would have to actually interact with users |
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| 18:01.04 | Coltragon | Hey |
| 18:01.10 | Coltragon | can anyone awnser a question i have? |
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| 18:01.25 | [acl] | bzo: lol. well i pick my pigs wisely .. or just handed off to argg . he is a great pig wrangler |
| 18:01.26 | lolz | I kinda need some help with the squashing..so, after i did 'unsquashfs' i wanted to squshfs but i couldn't.. help? |
| 18:01.30 | Coltragon | I am wondering why all hackers/programmers are using linux. What is the big advantage they get from using linux? |
| 18:02.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | Coltragon: if it's not a trolling, then the biggest advantage is that it is open-source and you can tweak it infinitely. it's like having a car, but without going out of your flat |
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| 18:03.19 | lolz | omg.. show me please |
| 18:03.29 | lolz | I kinda need some help with the squashing..so, after i did 'unsquashfs' i wanted to squshfs but i couldn't |
| 18:03.41 | arrrghhh | yo [acl]... that newest clock merge seemed to break something but only for raph800. their screens are now shifted after the 1245 update. |
| 18:03.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | lolz: 3 choices. stfu, go to htc-linux-chat or state your problem in more details |
| 18:04.21 | Coltragon | Alex |
| 18:04.22 | [acl] | arrrghhh: shifted ? explain thyself. thats weird since i tested it on a 800. i'll check again tonight |
| 18:04.24 | Coltragon | why would i be a troll |
| 18:04.41 | Coltragon | I wanna be a white-hat hacker when i;'m grown up |
| 18:04.41 | arrrghhh | [acl]: you have an 800 now? forgot about that. let me show you some posts... don't think anyone took a pic tho. |
| 18:04.55 | Coltragon | So i started learning, and i'm told that i'd defintely need linux |
| 18:05.06 | arrrghhh | [acl]: "On my Ralph800, kernel 1242 works fine, but on 1245 the screen seems to "split" after several minutes, and about 1/8 of the screen jumps to the right edge. Have to reboot to fix, and it only lasts a few minutes before doing it again." |
| 18:05.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | Coltragon: because coming into a linux channel and asking why everyone's using linux is funny |
| 18:05.41 | arrrghhh | "After a while, it actually shifts more and more over until it's almost back in the right position!" |
| 18:05.58 | nyl | Alex[sp3dev]: if i get flickering screen only when i have radio ON, what might be the problem? |
| 18:06.04 | bzo | arrrghhh that's an awesome feature |
| 18:06.17 | arrrghhh | bzo: lol it is a pretty impressive feature. |
| 18:06.20 | Coltragon | Alex that isn't that funny. Anyone considering switching from OS, would want some arguments to do so |
| 18:06.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | nyl: no idea actually |
| 18:06.31 | [acl] | arrrghhh: lol. i'll look tonigth. Sounds serious. but that cant be clock related. so u sure its that commit ? |
| 18:06.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | nyl: maybe some clocks are wrong? that's our favourite, you know |
| 18:07.02 | arrrghhh | well, they all say 1245 breaks it and 1242 works. |
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| 18:07.19 | lolz | I kinda need some help with the squashing..so, after i did 'unsquashfs' i wanted to squshfs but i couldn't |
| 18:07.39 | [acl] | i blame alex. its his clocks :-p. but im part to blame as well. i commited them :-( |
| 18:07.55 | nyl | Alex[sp3dev]: well it's strange xD i can't have a stable release of Android 2.3 or Ubuntu because of that annoying problem |
| 18:07.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | tries to summon the spirit of NetRipper |
| 18:08.09 | arrrghhh | [acl]: it could be 1244, not sure what is involved in that merge branch commit. no one can test 1244 directly :P |
| 18:08.36 | arrrghhh | lolz: Alex[sp3dev] already answered you. please change your tone. |
| 18:08.43 | [acl] | arrrghhh: ill test tonight on my raph. If it cant replicate.. well they tough luck :-p |
| 18:08.49 | lolz | Alex[sp3dev] answer ? |
| 18:08.58 | arrrghhh | [acl]: i agree. i just don't have an 800 to test with anymore... |
| 18:09.06 | arrrghhh | i wonder if it something with that graphics testing mess. |
| 18:09.09 | arrrghhh | i'll ask and see. |
| 18:09.40 | [acl] | arrrghhh: logs would help too :-) if there are any errors during that time. for all we know its userland related. or gralloc poop |
| 18:09.53 | nyl | Alex[sp3dev]: makes me think that it isn't kernel related |
| 18:10.03 | arrrghhh | i'm thinking gralloc poop. |
| 18:10.11 | arrrghhh | i'll see what i can dig up. you want logcat i assume? |
| 18:10.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Coltragon: put simply. if you want to be a hacker, you need to hack. find some thing that interests you and learn it. start with learning how the os works, about binary formats, how they are loaded, learn C and some assembly. and i strongly advise you to learn to use linux, bash and posix api. just because unix is a classical example of software engineering and is used everywhere. besides, you have all the sourcecode, unlike in some proprietary |
| 18:10.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | crap |
| 18:10.42 | [acl] | arrrghhh: anything that can help.. thanks |
| 18:11.01 | arrrghhh | np |
| 18:11.11 | Coltragon | Thanks for that great reply alex |
| 18:11.20 | Coltragon | assembly has been suggested to me earlier |
| 18:11.32 | arrrghhh | asm is tough to jump into Coltragon |
| 18:11.38 | arrrghhh | it's good to know, but i wouldn't start with it. |
| 18:11.44 | Coltragon | But i looked into it, and decided to stay with Java(that i already know a bit) for a while |
| 18:12.10 | Coltragon | Because when i saw that the classic 'hello world' program took around 12 lines in ASM compared to 3 lines in java |
| 18:12.17 | [acl] | java? jeez. you are 2 for 2. one more and you are outta here |
| 18:12.24 | Coltragon | I was scared for a second :P |
| 18:12.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | of course. first language should be C.. imho. and better some pure c in unix, so that you don't have to fill your head with winapi shit.. it took me some years before i stopped fearing windows api |
| 18:12.52 | Coltragon | C? I thought that was overrun by C++ and C# |
| 18:13.01 | [acl] | fuck 3 for 3.. |
| 18:13.05 | Coltragon | But isn't C++ better than C(hence the increment sign) |
| 18:13.11 | [acl] | whats next. you are gonna ask about .NET? |
| 18:13.19 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:13.19 | Coltragon | .NET is for windows not linux |
| 18:13.20 | Millenium | F# i suggest |
| 18:13.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | no language is better. a true hax0r must know all of them |
| 18:13.28 | Coltragon | only if you'd use mono that would be possible on windows right? |
| 18:13.30 | arrrghhh | fortran is where it's at. |
| 18:13.46 | Coltragon | on linux i mean ;p |
| 18:13.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, at least all that are buzzword of the day |
| 18:14.04 | nyl | imagine a OS in PAWN code o_O |
| 18:14.18 | Coltragon | PAWN? |
| 18:14.19 | Coltragon | omg |
| 18:14.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | sounds like PWN |
| 18:14.45 | Coltragon | Isn't GTA San Andreas multiplayer completely written in that? |
| 18:15.03 | nyl | yea the server side |
| 18:15.05 | nyl | :) |
| 18:15.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | ohh.. gta san andreas.. that was sooo many years ago |
| 18:15.31 | Coltragon | *another noob question incoming* What linux distro you guys suggest |
| 18:15.33 | nyl | also amxmodx |
| 18:15.37 | arrrghhh | still the best gta imho |
| 18:15.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | me using debian |
| 18:15.43 | nyl | uses pawn |
| 18:15.47 | Coltragon | People suggested me Ubuntu, Fedora, Gentoo and backtrack |
| 18:15.53 | arrrghhh | i prefer debian-based distro's. |
| 18:15.57 | nyl | i sugges backtrack |
| 18:15.58 | nyl | :D |
| 18:16.00 | Coltragon | But gentoo is said to be bad |
| 18:16.01 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:16.01 | nyl | suggest |
| 18:16.05 | Coltragon | and backtrack is only 32- bit |
| 18:16.07 | Coltragon | so that sux |
| 18:16.14 | arrrghhh | Coltragon: this really isn't a good room for this dude |
| 18:16.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | ubuntu and fedora might be good. forget about ubuntu until you know a bit of c, bash and make |
| 18:16.21 | arrrghhh | we're trying to hash out kernel-related issues on htc devices. |
| 18:16.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, gentoo ;)))) |
| 18:16.26 | nyl | was built by my ex hacker group |
| 18:16.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol |
| 18:16.31 | Coltragon | Oh wait |
| 18:16.35 | Coltragon | i thought this was general linux talk |
| 18:16.36 | Coltragon | :P |
| 18:16.40 | arrrghhh | no |
| 18:16.41 | arrrghhh | ##linux |
| 18:16.54 | Coltragon | well i got a LG device maybe that's good too :P |
| 18:17.00 | Coltragon | It's running linux at least ;p |
| 18:17.17 | nyl | hmm |
| 18:17.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | no. it was running linux out of the box. that's not geeky enough for this room |
| 18:17.24 | nyl | you just gave me the idea |
| 18:17.31 | nyl | to get backtrack on hd2 and tg01 |
| 18:17.32 | nyl | o_O |
| 18:17.41 | [acl] | thats 4 for 3.. you are outta here. |
| 18:17.45 | Coltragon | Alex and if i say that it now runs openEtna |
| 18:17.50 | Coltragon | Am i now worthy? :P |
| 18:18.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's so good about backtrack? can't you install those tools into any other distro? |
| 18:18.42 | nyl | backtrack mobile |
| 18:18.43 | nyl | :p |
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| 18:19.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | portable pwner? |
| 18:19.24 | nyl | i guess so |
| 18:19.25 | nyl | :D |
| 18:19.48 | nyl | people would profit a lot |
| 18:19.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | can you do injections and replays with ti wlan drivers? or you're using broadcomm? |
| 18:20.11 | nyl | plus the usb host would help a lot |
| 18:20.12 | nyl | :D |
| 18:20.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | i would love to use usb-host |
| 18:20.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | just need to think of a portable power source |
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| 18:21.36 | nyl | a car battery on your back? |
| 18:22.09 | arrrghhh | nyl: i'm guessing you haven't seen that penetration testing thread |
| 18:22.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | which one? |
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| 18:22.52 | nyl | hmm we are only 6 seeders on tg01 ubuntu |
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| 18:23.26 | arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842893 |
| 18:23.30 | arrrghhh | penetration testing |
| 18:23.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | looks too leet |
| 18:24.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | this is epic |
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| 18:29.14 | nyl | perhaps i can put down the wifi password |
| 18:29.19 | nyl | on the network |
| 18:29.55 | nyl | from my university |
| 18:29.58 | JesusFreak316 | Lolz penetration testing. |
| 18:31.07 | [acl] | ima do some penetration testing on some chicks this weekend. i'll let yall know the results |
| 18:31.35 | nyl | i already know the result |
| 18:31.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | i predict epic failures at the end of the week |
| 18:31.41 | nyl | happyness and AIDS |
| 18:31.49 | arrrghhh | just wrap up your soldier, lest your penetration testing turns into painful urination. |
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| 18:33.18 | nyl | maybe i should try a penetration test on the muscle girls from the gym :p |
| 18:33.58 | [acl] | :-p |
| 18:34.04 | bzo | I think more likely they will be doing the penetration |
| 18:34.05 | arrrghhh | ha, nice knowin ya nyl :P |
| 18:34.08 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 18:34.10 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 18:34.18 | nyl | xD |
| 18:34.41 | nyl | well a muscle girl |
| 18:34.57 | nyl | can do 2000 guys per day |
| 18:35.07 | nyl | at the minimum |
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| 18:39.38 | gauner1986 | muscle girl? |
| 18:39.42 | gauner1986 | can that be sexy? |
| 18:40.53 | nyl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAv0Ds17Tc4 |
| 18:41.09 | nyl | well she gonna give everything she has |
| 18:41.11 | nyl | in bed |
| 18:41.14 | nyl | imagine ;)) |
| 18:44.26 | bzo | hey arrrghhh: what kind of battery drain are you getting with WisTilt's kernel? |
| 18:45.08 | gauner1986 | haha |
| 18:45.13 | gauner1986 | this video is not available in oyur country |
| 18:45.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | double win? |
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| 18:46.11 | gauner1986 | probably.. |
| 18:46.15 | gauner1986 | fu gema |
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| 18:48.18 | ak007 | hi everyone! |
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| 18:55.52 | nyl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w52qLe_fsu8 |
| 18:57.54 | manusfreedom | how can I build a boot.img? or modify one? (I am not able to mount it under android) |
| 19:01.17 | gauner1986 | mkyaffs2image |
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| 19:02.13 | manusfreedom | gauner1986: where can I find it? |
| 19:03.54 | gauner1986 | manusfreedom: hm.. you can build it from yaffs2 git |
| 19:04.09 | manusfreedom | ha ok... |
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| 19:06.30 | manusfreedom | where can I found doc for magldr (flash.cfg) |
| 19:06.41 | gauner1986 | in daf distribution |
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| 19:06.47 | gauner1986 | from cotulla |
| 19:06.55 | gauner1986 | flash.cfg.txt |
| 19:06.56 | gauner1986 | or so |
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| 19:12.32 | gauner1986 | hm.. can i track which processes access a specific sysfs file? |
| 19:14.15 | Proz000 | hey gauner1986 can i ask big thing from u ? |
| 19:14.39 | gauner1986 | depends! |
| 19:14.41 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 19:15.10 | Proz000 | well can u convert ur system.squs file to system.ext2 |
| 19:15.12 | Proz000 | :P |
| 19:15.22 | Proz000 | and give it to me |
| 19:15.45 | imilka | lol |
| 19:15.46 | Proz000 | appertly i can do it right :) |
| 19:15.48 | imilka | just unsquash |
| 19:15.48 | imilka | :D |
| 19:15.55 | Proz000 | and :D ? |
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| 19:16.04 | imilka | and give it to urself |
| 19:16.04 | imilka | :D |
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| 19:16.13 | imilka | what do u need? |
| 19:16.27 | Proz000 | i want to make superam :P! |
| 19:16.28 | gauner1986 | you can just use unsquahfs |
| 19:16.30 | Proz000 | its really tiny |
| 19:16.47 | Proz000 | nah im awful! |
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| 19:39.37 | Proz000 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10327357#post10327357 |
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| 19:44.17 | arrrghhh | bzo: sorry i was at lunch. not sure what the %/hr is, but i got nearly 20 hrs with moderate to light usage. |
| 19:44.37 | arrrghhh | let's see... it was at ~82% when i went to sleep, I woke up it was at 67%. roughly 8 hrs. |
| 19:44.53 | arrrghhh | just shy of 2%/hr it looks like. |
| 19:45.40 | bzo | arrrghhh: ok thx. Dunno if there is any point to using our battery gauge though |
| 19:45.49 | bzo | seems to vary a lot depending on what range it is in |
| 19:46.13 | arrrghhh | yea, still seems slightly inaccurate |
| 19:46.24 | arrrghhh | much better than it was, but when it gets down below 30% i question its accuracy. |
| 19:46.40 | bzo | the 90-100 seems really off too |
| 19:46.50 | arrrghhh | yea, probably so. |
| 19:46.59 | arrrghhh | battery meter is so hard to gauge. |
| 19:47.11 | arrrghhh | can't really use winmo as a yardstick, its battery meter seems pretty off too lol |
| 19:47.21 | arrrghhh | just doesn't bounce around as much. |
| 19:47.26 | bzo | so I dunno what to make of my experience with wistilt's kernel |
| 19:47.39 | arrrghhh | was your drain much worse...? |
| 19:48.23 | bzo | seemed like it, but now I'm less certain given the gauge inconsistency |
| 19:48.46 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 19:49.03 | arrrghhh | i'm still having that issue where i can't sleep if gps is enabled |
| 19:49.06 | emwe | arrrghhh: are you running with background sync on during your battery test? |
| 19:49.08 | arrrghhh | not active, just enabled in loc&sec |
| 19:49.12 | bzo | but there seem to be a number of rhod400 reports that are favorable |
| 19:49.23 | arrrghhh | emwe: hrm... yes i was. radios were on, 3g was on, and sync was enabled. |
| 19:50.25 | emwe | arrrghhh: i get down by 40% in about 6 hours iirc... e.g. fully charged to bed and after some alarm ringing for half an hour with snoozes. |
| 19:50.40 | emwe | (100->60% roughly over night) |
| 19:51.29 | bzo | emwe does topaz have same size batt? |
| 19:52.24 | emwe | bzo: battery model: TOPA160 3.7V 1100mAh 4.07 Whr |
| 19:52.33 | emwe | (yes, the battery is called like a device model) |
| 19:52.57 | arrrghhh | emwe: that drain is a lot worse then mine |
| 19:53.05 | bzo | batt capacity sounds the same |
| 19:53.06 | arrrghhh | do you have sleep_mode=1? are you oc'd? |
| 19:53.18 | arrrghhh | i was oc'd to 700 when i was doing this test (i believe). |
| 19:53.25 | arrrghhh | but sleep_mode was set to 1. |
| 19:53.40 | arrrghhh | and i made sure it was sleeping. the gps thing was screwing up my testing at first. |
| 19:53.57 | emwe | also at pm=1 and no gps. no o/c. |
| 19:54.08 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 19:54.12 | emwe | hm. whonder if some vregs are not correctly powered down here... |
| 19:54.15 | arrrghhh | i wonder if topaz panel isn't collapsing completely. |
| 19:54.17 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 19:54.23 | emwe | i think it should ;) |
| 19:54.27 | arrrghhh | you said it in a much better way :P |
| 19:54.28 | emwe | vregs and gpio configured. |
| 19:54.47 | arrrghhh | is there any way to see if the panel is properly collapsing? |
| 19:55.18 | emwe | yes, uncomment some essential init code and you will never see it coming back up again ;) |
| 19:55.49 | emwe | i am pretty sure it's off. puh... |
| 19:55.50 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 19:56.08 | emwe | following the specs init sequence markinus dumped once. |
| 19:56.25 | emwe | the only thing might be seom vregs still being up and perhaps some clocks not lowered. whatever. |
| 19:56.57 | emwe | also, the arm11 is not clocking down it's clock on sleep. for whatever reason. another thing to check.. |
| 19:57.01 | emwe | perhaps that works on rhod ;) |
| 19:57.11 | arrrghhh | ha |
| 19:57.14 | arrrghhh | perhaps :P |
| 19:57.27 | emwe | arrrghhh: are you able to reproduce the "hard-to-wake" on deep-sleep? |
| 19:57.35 | arrrghhh | not any more |
| 19:57.38 | emwe | (having to press a hw-button longer to get it to wake) |
| 19:57.43 | arrrghhh | i mean i have the issue where i have to touch the screen |
| 19:57.43 | emwe | not anymore? which build? |
| 19:57.47 | arrrghhh | to get the panel to wake |
| 19:57.52 | emwe | ok, that thing. |
| 19:58.04 | arrrghhh | ah. yea, happens all the damned time... |
| 19:58.08 | emwe | do you know the other issue? like its asleep, press button, led to amber, and back to green. |
| 19:58.12 | arrrghhh | it wakes immediately when i touch the panel tho |
| 19:58.18 | emwe | ok. |
| 19:58.26 | arrrghhh | yea i've seen that too. only if i don't touch the screen in the right place |
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| 19:58.31 | emwe | ok |
| 19:58.35 | arrrghhh | i heard you can slide the kbd (if you had one) to wake it |
| 19:58.39 | emwe | so, button and immedeately panel press? |
| 19:58.55 | arrrghhh | yea, i found it happens almost everytime if not everytime from sleep. |
| 19:58.58 | emwe | geez. a pita. just debugging in that area with lousy printfs |
| 19:59.13 | emwe | rather everytime here when it's asleep for longer then half a minute or so |
| 19:59.16 | arrrghhh | if the phone isn't "sleeping" panel comes up just fine. |
| 19:59.21 | emwe | yap, right |
| 20:00.47 | arrrghhh | where's WisTilt2? I have sooooo much feedback for him! |
| 20:01.31 | emwe | arrrghhh: i at least got some q's for him ;) |
| 20:02.19 | arrrghhh | yea. he wanted me to throw up his kernel for testing, and i got a ton of feedback. |
| 20:02.24 | arrrghhh | some of it is rubbish, but a lot of it is good. |
| 20:03.00 | emwe | yah, quickly glanced over the thread. |
| 20:10.01 | [acl] | nice nice |
| 20:13.51 | [acl] | arrrghhh, <arrrghhh> it wakes immediately when i touch the panel tho <--- wistil and i discussed this yest. some oddness in timing |
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| 20:14.22 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 20:14.29 | arrrghhh | i know WisTilt2 was looking into it. |
| 20:14.53 | [acl] | thing is it may be userland related. Not sure. It appears android is waking upfaster than the panel. |
| 20:15.05 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:15.11 | arrrghhh | slow down android! :P |
| 20:15.48 | [acl] | this actually shouldnt affect autobl .. just manual. |
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| 20:16.32 | arrrghhh | ah maybe that's why i'm getting complaints on that |
| 20:16.48 | arrrghhh | people say they're setting their brightness up manually, but it goes right back to dim after a sleep/wake cycle. |
| 20:18.09 | NeoMatrixJR | hello all! |
| 20:18.12 | NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh: did you just actually say you wanted android to SLOW DOWN?! |
| 20:18.18 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:18.29 | arrrghhh | at least until the panel wakes :P |
| 20:19.00 | NeoMatrixJR | oh, hey, I get that brightness issue sometimes too. phone will wake and stay dim. have to go change the setting to get it back up. |
| 20:19.09 | [acl] | arrrghhh: thats another issue then. the mddi init wipes the auto bl setting. i believe so on unblank im sure it needs to be set back up. |
| 20:19.17 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 20:19.18 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 20:19.27 | arrrghhh | so many little bugs to squash. |
| 20:19.49 | [acl] | emwe: you have any brightness issues? |
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| 20:21.40 | [acl] | i blame userland :-p |
| 20:22.44 | phh | [acl]: poor stinebd. |
| 20:22.58 | [acl] | im sure he blames the kernel so all good |
| 20:23.09 | arrrghhh | mutual frustration? |
| 20:23.14 | phh | well he is alone |
| 20:23.15 | phh | vs us :p |
| 20:23.24 | NeoMatrixJR | any luck on the system_server issue? Apparently from what I've seen it's an issue across the board for all devices right now? Looked like someone posted a patch for cyanogenmod for it. |
| 20:23.38 | [acl] | really |
| 20:23.41 | [acl] | link ? |
| 20:23.44 | [acl] | time to poach |
| 20:24.10 | NeoMatrixJR | lemmie try and find it again |
| 20:24.17 | arrrghhh | yea i saw that as well |
| 20:24.19 | arrrghhh | from '09 |
| 20:24.31 | emwe | [acl]: no issues at all. |
| 20:25.18 | emwe | [acl]: auto and manual working very fine here. the only "small" issue is that it actually goes full on unblank and then micrp auto-bl kicks in and it dimms to light-sensor level right afterwards within a sec. |
| 20:25.45 | [acl] | emwe: blame userlend ? |
| 20:25.50 | arrrghhh | i mentioned that to WisTilt2... I guess that's how it has to be. |
| 20:25.50 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:25.58 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl]: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453#c24 |
| 20:25.58 | arrrghhh | just... too... easy. |
| 20:26.16 | NeoMatrixJR | oh, yeah, I didn't see that was from 2009... |
| 20:26.58 | emwe | [acl]: no , as userland is ending out no values that is fine. it's rather that the panel init code does not setup the LABC and thus it comes up with full and is then lowered by enabling the light sensor via microp which then dimms it again immedeately. |
| 20:27.06 | arrrghhh | might still be relevant |
| 20:27.12 | arrrghhh | someone looked into it already tho... no? |
| 20:29.13 | [acl] | emwe: my next nand patch might interest you. i moved the brightness to panel like supersonic plus the cabc poop. Since i dont know hwo to autobl via panel yet, still need to call microp to do it for me. Unfortunately htc modified the msm_fb.h to get this done. So im looking for an alternative to not conflict with the vanilla .35fb |
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| 20:30.06 | [acl] | klinux: welcome back :-) |
| 20:30.07 | emwe | [acl]: awaiting it. and yeah, when diffing htc trees to "official" it's a pita how they mess with it. |
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| 20:30.42 | NeoMatrixJR | damn...doing it again...system_server @ 88% CPU |
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| 20:30.50 | emwe | [acl]: what's been the sate of .35 in general? was alex the only one yet to try? what's the stage? |
| 20:30.54 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: with ther patch? |
| 20:31.02 | NeoMatrixJR | haven't patched yet. |
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| 20:31.15 | NeoMatrixJR | gotta try that when my dev box is online |
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| 20:32.18 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl] gotta admit though it runs nice and smooth with those graphics updates you posted when system_server is behaving properly |
| 20:32.21 | [acl] | emwe: i think we need to get most of this stuff working before moving to .35. Its not that bad since most of our stuff has been ported already one way or another. I think eventually it will boil down to each maintainer handling their own device. But also what if people wanna go nand? then is it wise to have 1 kernel for all devices |
| 20:32.43 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: we need to break the 30fps barrier bro. |
| 20:32.47 | emwe | [acl]: i'd like to see .35 haret and nand in linux-msm ;) |
| 20:33.12 | [acl] | emwe: but for all devices? |
| 20:33.47 | emwe | [acl]: why not. |
| 20:34.06 | emwe | dunno if it would be even desirable to have one branch for both. |
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| 20:34.12 | k_linux | hey |
| 20:34.23 | [acl] | k_linux: welcome back |
| 20:34.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | i was lurking through the logs ;) |
| 20:34.32 | k_linux | thx :) |
| 20:34.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | we need a dictator for .35 era |
| 20:34.53 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: lol. |
| 20:35.02 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: after camera ? |
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| 20:35.29 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: we were just speaking about it :) |
| 20:35.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok. first off we need to rewrite microp drivers to work on 35.. and sound/qdsp, though that is more about refactoring. |
| 20:35.56 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: microp is gross right now. |
| 20:36.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | finally fixed that effin pxa270 pda. looks like i have found a hardware bug in SSP. anyway, touchscreen is working now |
| 20:36.35 | [acl] | awesome |
| 20:36.40 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: you started your .35 trial with android-msm-2.6.35, right? |
| 20:37.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: yes. if you want to try, start off my git. i have sort of integrated the clocks and don't want anyone to fuck it up again ;) |
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| 20:38.01 | gauner1986 | hey dan |
| 20:38.09 | dan1j3l | ello :) |
| 20:38.30 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: what does "sort of integrated" mean specifically? it's not just clock-wince i guess? (pardon my ignorance) |
| 20:38.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | besides, SMD was a pita but i have managed to integrate the HELLO/BYE calls with minimum patches, so tty works on 5225. one problem is that there's a race condition somewhere and kernel may lock up.. need to figure |
| 20:39.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: i mean, changed some google hardcoded functions to macros so that we can *hopefully* build our code without breaking google's |
| 20:40.00 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: how did you get to the state you are in there when the device froze early? back to wince and dump ramconsole log? |
| 20:40.07 | [acl] | emwe: Alex[sp3dev] : tmzt may be our dictator. He has a htc-msm-upstream ready. only downside is that its based off CA and not google. Means we would have to deal with that nasty fb that google frowned upon |
| 20:40.33 | emwe | hmhm |
| 20:40.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: we can drop android and switch to debian or SHR |
| 20:41.22 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: haha. i suppose |
| 20:41.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: no, no ramconsole. just one night i decided that i will try to port everything in small steps - first clocks, then gpios, panel and the rest. and boom - it just booted |
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| 20:42.35 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: i bow to you. i just feel like getting tired of having to compare recent kernel trees to .27 |
| 20:42.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is worthless |
| 20:43.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | we just need to upgrade our code |
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| 20:44.27 | emwe | i have the suspicion i am chasing my own tail finding the unblank issue after .35 fb (if it even came with that. don't remember) |
| 20:44.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think we need to split all mmc, pmem and microp to board files. so that we can *hopefully* integrate upstream one day, board-by-board. and also maintaining separate boards is easier. but we need to boot off nand first, i suppose.. though i am now busy with my pxa270 pda.. much more open hardware.. |
| 20:44.35 | emwe | feel like having no progress. |
| 20:44.45 | akirax | hi gauner! |
| 20:44.45 | [acl] | i say after camera is semi working we can assemble a team to tackle this. I'm sure we can get everyone on board but we still need a dictator. I would love for phh to come along but he doesnt seem interested. |
| 20:45.02 | akirax | I need some help from you |
| 20:45.26 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: upstream would be ca then? |
| 20:45.45 | [acl] | phh: change your mind about .35 ? |
| 20:46.17 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl] that patch for system_server problem looks to be for an older file. The one I have is different. |
| 20:46.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: the problem is that this project is getting boring. i am sick of sitting and comparing files and copy-pasting code. i'd better go hack some opencv and dsp then waste my time.. i mean, i want a complete nand rom, but i think i need to suspend working on it since it disturbs me and my studies (or.. self education) |
| 20:46.40 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: :-( ohh well |
| 20:46.41 | emwe | NeoMatrixJR: i'd have hoped it worked ... |
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| 20:47.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, we're moving nowhere now. hacking kernel to make proprietary blobs run is no fun. we need to invest all efforts into a bootloader or a small kernel and recovery |
| 20:48.09 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah dood i hear ya. Everyone has their own reasons for working on it. |
| 20:48.29 | arrrghhh | i'm cheap and not ready to buy a new phone? :P |
| 20:49.08 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: but majority of the reasons are for android and not really self education. i personally do it for fun. |
| 20:49.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | i would buy a new phone just fine, i just do not want to throw away the results of 1.5 year research. we must finish now. |
| 20:49.46 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev]: agreed |
| 20:49.54 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: same feelings here somehow. new phones "time" is rather soonish.. |
| 20:49.57 | arrrghhh | we're really close... just this last final push. |
| 20:50.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: no, i mean, working on android disturbs me from learning some other cool stuff, so i think i will need to suspend here just not to become stupid and ignorant |
| 20:50.20 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:50.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://www.mediafire.com/?fr9esrq1dngqu81 - epic video. first boot with touchscreen working with mainline drivers ;) |
| 20:50.47 | emwe | so everybody who continues becomes that? ;) |
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| 20:51.29 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i know bro.. you and jonpry have the same feelings and i respect both. But other devs just want to continue to move to android. So you cant force people to work on a bootloader just yet if they want to squash bugs or move to a new kernel. just the way it is u know. |
| 20:52.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i am not forcing anyone |
| 20:52.24 | emwe | [acl]: let alone other's capability to work at that stage (the bootloader i mean). definitively not me. |
| 20:52.42 | [acl] | :-D |
| 20:53.45 | manusfreedom | there is a way to dump a nand partition directly to img? |
| 20:53.45 | emwe | is there anything wrong having a .35 branch comprised of both "usages"... nand and haret? |
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| 20:54.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah. you can notice that 'advanced programming in unix environment' in the background. and i have not yet looked through even a half of it.. there are just a lot of things to work on except android.. and i would prefer X11, to be honest |
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| 20:55.22 | [acl] | to each their own ? :-p |
| 20:55.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah.. that's what keeps the world moving |
| 20:57.30 | Aerek | Speaking of X, I have maanged to get ubuntu installed on a nook color but the only way to bring the gui up as of right now is through vnc. tmzt has an apk that will run an X server in android, but there isn't much documentation on how to set it up if you have linux already installed, anyone lend a ahnd? |
| 20:58.09 | Aerek | hand* |
| 21:00.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, i should say that reiserfs rocks for rootfs on sd card. survives severe reboots;) |
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| 21:04.03 | Aerek | scratch that the .apk doesn't parse for some reason |
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| 22:06.56 | NeoMatrixJR | ~seen WisTilt2 |
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| 22:13.13 | NeoMatrixJR | anyone on here know where you can get HaRET that still has the "listen" button (instead of auto-booting to linux)? |
| 22:13.42 | StummeJ_ | just dont have a startup.txt with haret.exe? |
| 22:14.07 | StummeJ_ | rename startup.txt to default.txt maybe... |
| 22:14.19 | NeoMatrixJR | ah. Thanks StummeJ_ |
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| 22:28.25 | NeoMatrixJR | ooooookay. so watch gpios gives me NOTHING.... |
| 22:30.53 | StummeJ_ | did you build haret from git? |
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| 22:31.00 | NeoMatrixJR | no |
| 22:31.08 | StummeJ_ | 5.2 isnt for our chip :-\ |
| 22:31.17 | NeoMatrixJR | using the standard one being inculded with xdandroid bundles |
| 22:31.44 | NeoMatrixJR | pre-0.5.3-2009121... |
| 22:32.02 | NeoMatrixJR | on a RHOD400 |
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| 22:33.13 | StummeJ_ | 2010-01-20 Martijn Stolk Add GPIO bank5 for MSM7xxxA, patch by cr2 commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot |
| 22:34.22 | NeoMatrixJR | ah. another day then. I'm not going to get that far in the next 30 minutes. I'm sure I'm looking where everyone else already has anyways. I'm trying to figure out what's with bluetooth not working. |
| 22:34.53 | StummeJ_ | yeah kinda the same thing i said, but for 3.5mm jack |
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| 22:45.15 | stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: fyi, that patch is useless for us. LocationManager was totally rewritten between cupcake (which that patch was authored for) and donut |
| 22:45.47 | stinebd | the symptoms of that bug are marginally similar but have different causes |
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| 22:49.06 | NeoMatrixJR | stinebd: yeah. I eventually caught that. I posted the find just before bed last night and didn't have a chance to really look at it until today. |
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| 23:18.26 | NeoMatrixJR | stinebd: do you happen to know where the bcm driver gets built? |
| 23:18.43 | stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: which bcm driver? |
| 23:19.01 | stinebd | wifi? |
| 23:19.16 | NeoMatrixJR | yeah |
| 23:19.27 | NeoMatrixJR | well what should be wifi/bt/fm? |
| 23:19.47 | stinebd | wifi is a kernel module |
| 23:19.58 | stinebd | bluetooth (and i assume fm) are handled by userspace drivers |
| 23:21.00 | NeoMatrixJR | is there any way to tell for sure that the BT is initialized and accessible by userspace? |
| 23:22.03 | stinebd | it uses a serial device node, /dev/ttyMSM* |
| 23:22.29 | stinebd | err |
| 23:22.36 | stinebd | rather, /dev/ttyHS* |
| 23:22.45 | NeoMatrixJR | hmmm |
| 23:23.04 | stinebd | with our TI devices at least, it's ttyHS1 |
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| 23:23.41 | NeoMatrixJR | so as far as everyone believes it's just a userland issue to fix BT? |
| 23:23.50 | stinebd | yes |
| 23:23.53 | stinebd | maybe |
| 23:24.03 | phh | no |
| 23:24.05 | phh | definitely not |
| 23:24.15 | stinebd | wait |
| 23:24.19 | stinebd | for broadcom, no |
| 23:24.41 | stinebd | for TI... did we ever make a decision about that? |
| 23:24.43 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:24.58 | phh | uh ? |
| 23:25.00 | phh | TI works |
| 23:25.01 | phh | definitely. |
| 23:25.04 | stinebd | TI works balls slow |
| 23:25.05 | phh | at all rates |
| 23:25.18 | stinebd | who has it working at superfast? |
| 23:25.20 | phh | yeah that's only userland issue |
| 23:25.32 | phh | oh wait |
| 23:25.35 | phh | what part is slow ? |
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| 23:25.45 | stinebd | you can only get it running at 115200 |
| 23:25.49 | phh | yeah no |
| 23:25.53 | phh | I definitely got it at 3Mbps |
| 23:26.01 | stinebd | share your method then |
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| 23:26.04 | phh | more than one year ago, when it was still my diamond :D |
| 23:26.05 | NeoMatrixJR | phh, wait, backup...to broadcom. it's NOT just a userland issue then? |
| 23:26.06 | RaiderX | is it possible to odex apk's from ubuntu? |
| 23:26.10 | stinebd | because hciattach doesn't work above 115200 |
| 23:26.11 | phh | thanks to cr2 mostly when I was still a noob .... |
| 23:26.13 | phh | nostalgia :D |
| 23:26.21 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: yeah :/ |
| 23:26.28 | randomblame | howdy fellas |
| 23:26.29 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: I failed at finding init combination |
| 23:26.34 | NeoMatrixJR | crapcakes |
| 23:26.34 | stinebd | broadcom is an init issue |
| 23:26.35 | phh | stinebd: get proper hciattach :p |
| 23:26.40 | phh | stinebd: some hciattach are wrong ... |
| 23:26.42 | stinebd | therefore, it's wistilt2's job |
| 23:26.51 | phh | :) |
| 23:26.51 | NeoMatrixJR | ah. so I WAS barking up the right tree earlier! |
| 23:26.52 | stinebd | phh: there's only one hciattach |
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| 23:27.00 | phh | stinebd: haha. |
| 23:27.01 | phh | no. |
| 23:27.04 | stinebd | haha yes |
| 23:27.06 | stinebd | go look at it |
| 23:27.09 | stinebd | there are different drivers it uses |
| 23:27.14 | stinebd | texas, texasalt, etc etc |
| 23:27.17 | phh | I know |
| 23:27.22 | phh | even with that there are different hciattach |
| 23:27.29 | phh | I don't remember the details though |
| 23:27.36 | phh | well I can read the code to see |
| 23:27.38 | stinebd | then i shall consider you wrong until you prove it |
| 23:27.40 | randomblame | arm-2008q3 still what's being used? I'm having issues compiling the latest commits |
| 23:27.41 | NeoMatrixJR | yeah. WisTilt2's the init god. I'll have to try and catch him, but I know he's working down a list. |
| 23:27.50 | phh | stinebd: easy. some hciattach work, other don't ;) |
| 23:28.03 | NeoMatrixJR | ~seen WisTilt2 |
| 23:28.09 | apt | wistilt2 <~wisgreg@wireless248.wirelesstcp.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 17h 33m 51s ago, saying: 'nite'. |
| 23:28.09 | phh | stinebd: well perhaps now there is only one left |
| 23:28.16 | phh | but when I enabled bluetooth, there were definitely multiple versions |
| 23:28.22 | phh | including one which couldn't do rate change. |
| 23:28.36 | stinebd | that would be way back when (cupcake maybe) |
| 23:28.45 | phh | donut |
| 23:28.52 | phh | when I was still young. |
| 23:29.16 | stinebd | bluetooth is lame anyway |
| 23:29.17 | bzo | now you are a jaded old man of 18? |
| 23:29.20 | stinebd | it's all about nfc now |
| 23:29.48 | stinebd | and that wifi thing that wants to be bluetooth |
| 23:30.27 | bzo | we should just go back to wired. All this wireless is going to fry your brain |
| 23:30.41 | stinebd | literally |
| 23:30.43 | phh | bzo: pff I'm 21 :'( |
| 23:30.44 | nyl | Aww, phh, don't cry. |
| 23:31.01 | randomblame | might be a bit inconvenient to carry a spool of wire around with your handheld though :D |
| 23:31.17 | stinebd | well then good news! it's retractable |
| 23:31.29 | bzo | phh: wat? damn you are old then (not) |
| 23:32.16 | phh | stinebd: *according to the sources of bluez/master from android.git.kernel.org* both drivers should be able to run at 1Mbps |
| 23:32.21 | phh | or was it 4 ? |
| 23:32.24 | phh | I don't remember, but well. |
| 23:32.25 | randomblame | so what's the deal with the toolchain we're still using 2008q3 right? |
| 23:32.37 | phh | randomblame: I'm using 2010q2 ... |
| 23:32.40 | phh | q3 ? |
| 23:32.42 | phh | whatever |
| 23:32.52 | bzo | randomblame: I started having problems with 2008, going to a 2010 one fixed it |
| 23:32.58 | NeoMatrixJR | hey, anyone have any good documentation on how hardware gets initialized? Something I can read up on for now? |
| 23:33.11 | randomblame | good I was hoping I could blame the toolchain :D |
| 23:33.53 | bzo | well, I didn't have problems compiling. 2008 kernels wouldn't boot |
| 23:34.09 | toastcfh | sup phh? did pershoot get ahold of u? hes working on wifi or something for a tegra having gtab and i sent him ur way. still the same bcm driver /me thinks* |
| 23:34.27 | phh | toastcfh: pershoot ? |
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| 23:34.40 | phh | I haven't heard of him no |
| 23:34.41 | stinebd | that guy |
| 23:34.44 | phh | toastcfh: and he is lucky. |
| 23:34.50 | bzo | toastcfh wow haven't seen you in a while |
| 23:34.52 | phh | my tegra card has a FUCKING USB WIFI CARD |
| 23:35.16 | randomblame | usb? why |
| 23:35.20 | phh | randomblame: no clue |
| 23:35.26 | vegaman | laziness |
| 23:35.29 | randomblame | that is some lazy shit |
| 23:35.34 | phh | but it prevent us from using wake up from wifi |
| 23:35.35 | phh | that sucks |
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| 23:35.46 | randomblame | what about wake up on usb event? |
| 23:35.46 | NeoMatrixJR | out till later.... |
| 23:35.55 | phh | randomblame: I doubt it can work |
| 23:36.14 | phh | randomblame: well I couldn't even keep usb power on during sleep but that's another story |
| 23:36.15 | vegaman | the usb bus is probably powered down completely? |
| 23:36.26 | vegaman | oops... redundancy lol |
| 23:36.48 | stinebd | lol usb wifi |
| 23:36.55 | phh | stinebd: if you use texasalt driver |
| 23:36.58 | toastcfh | bzo whats up? been woring on the evo for a good while. finally got wimax working with a MEGA KANG method. we are finally in the final stages of it. ur working on panel stuff and looking at the evo panel? |
| 23:36.59 | phh | do not specify speed on cmdline |
| 23:37.03 | phh | it will change speed automatically |
| 23:37.13 | phh | err no |
| 23:37.27 | toastcfh | phh, not sure what his issue was. i sent him here and to ur twtter though |
| 23:37.35 | phh | toastcfh: I don't read twitter -_-' |
| 23:37.44 | toastcfh | >_> |
| 23:37.52 | toastcfh | RE3AD IT NOWzzzz |
| 23:38.13 | phh | stinebd: yeah no that's for texas driver |
| 23:38.15 | bzo | toastcfh: [acl] and emwe mostly looking at the panel. But we did want to ask what you knew about the low framerate issue |
| 23:38.19 | phh | texas driver reads speed from the firmware |
| 23:38.26 | phh | our firmware sets to high speed |
| 23:38.28 | phh | and proper speed. |
| 23:38.35 | phh | (which I don't remember which one it is :D) |
| 23:39.10 | phh | stinebd: that's for latest bluez as in gingerbread |
| 23:39.22 | stinebd | screw gingerbread |
| 23:39.24 | toastcfh | bzo our fps issue was due to pour clock setting in the pannel regs. |
| 23:39.25 | stinebd | bunch of assholes |
| 23:39.58 | phh | toastcfh: he want me to go on irc. |
| 23:40.04 | stinebd | phh: so i should use texas with no speed. and "our firmware" is the one that's in rootfs? |
| 23:40.18 | phh | stinebd: mmmmmmm |
| 23:40.25 | phh | stinebd: good question ? :D |
| 23:40.27 | bzo | toastcfh: yeah, we saw your commit and used some of the fix. Made a nice improvement, but we're still only at about 30fps |
| 23:40.38 | toastcfh | hmm |
| 23:40.41 | toastcfh | epson |
| 23:40.43 | stinebd | i've long suspected the issues to be firmware related |
| 23:40.43 | toastcfh | ? |
| 23:40.49 | phh | stinebd: the good one is the one in wimo |
| 23:40.56 | bzo | toastcfh: novatec |
| 23:40.59 | toastcfh | ahh |
| 23:41.00 | stinebd | phh: yeah, how do i get it? |
| 23:41.15 | stinebd | please don't say winmo file explorer |
| 23:41.20 | phh | ah. |
| 23:41.23 | phh | I'll search in my logs then. |
| 23:41.25 | stinebd | there's like 4,000 things in \Windows |
| 23:41.36 | toastcfh | we had to remove a msleep to in video/msmnovblah |
| 23:41.44 | phh | toastcfh: we did that too |
| 23:41.49 | toastcfh | oh ok |
| 23:41.55 | phh | toastcfh: copying you ;) |
| 23:41.56 | phh | afaik |
| 23:42.15 | bzo | yep, that's where emwe found it |
| 23:42.25 | toastcfh | so u guys used the drivers from the evo i take it |
| 23:42.36 | stinebd | phh: also please port magldr to raph/diam/blac/rhod/topa |
| 23:42.42 | phh | haha |
| 23:42.42 | bzo | toastcfh: so what kind of fps do you guys get anyways? |
| 23:42.52 | toastcfh | 55-57 |
| 23:42.57 | toastcfh | in 2d |
| 23:43.04 | phh | stinebd: TIInit_5_3_53.bin |
| 23:43.07 | toastcfh | in 3d only 32 max |
| 23:43.15 | phh | stinebd: you can get it in wimo or you want me to upload it ? |
| 23:43.25 | stinebd | phh: i can probably get it, don't trouble yourself |
| 23:43.28 | bzo | toastcfh: on fps2d we see bursts of 50fps, but avg of 30 |
| 23:43.37 | toastcfh | hmm |
| 23:43.41 | bzo | hopefully it is not a hardware limitation |
| 23:43.46 | bzo | our cpu is slow compared to evo |
| 23:43.52 | stinebd | scrolling down and hitting "copy to sd card" isn't too hard for me, even in winmo |
| 23:44.05 | phh | stinebd: what is hard is the filtering part :p |
| 23:44.05 | toastcfh | hmm |
| 23:44.14 | toastcfh | ur tree? |
| 23:44.24 | toastcfh | gitorious? |
| 23:44.36 | bzo | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm |
| 23:45.37 | bzo | emwe tried a few of the panel init changes, but I think it only added a few fps |
| 23:46.00 | toastcfh | bzo we seen we could go higher when we turned the screen off durring a fps2d run. it went up to 50+ and thats when we just started tweaking the regs to get better |
| 23:46.35 | arrrghhh | hrm i guess i should try fps2d with the screen off eh? |
| 23:46.38 | toastcfh | may try that and see if its the panel or the gpu |
| 23:46.45 | bzo | ah, interesting |
| 23:47.00 | bzo | did you put in a debugfs switch or something to manually turn off the panel? |
| 23:47.00 | toastcfh | if its panel tweak the board regs |
| 23:47.11 | toastcfh | manually turned it off |
| 23:47.26 | toastcfh | it was found by mistake |
| 23:47.30 | toastcfh | ;p |
| 23:47.56 | arrrghhh | toastcfh: just like all great things. like peanut butter. :P |
| 23:48.15 | toastcfh | also htc kanged our changes and improved them a little |
| 23:48.24 | arrrghhh | that's hilarious. |
| 23:48.25 | toastcfh | one sec ill pull the commit |
| 23:49.04 | bzo | toastcfh: ok, I'm a little unclear on how your run fps2d with the panel off though |
| 23:49.26 | arrrghhh | bzo: it appears to still run |
| 23:49.27 | toastcfh | run it and just turn the panel off |
| 23:49.34 | arrrghhh | holy crap |
| 23:49.42 | arrrghhh | my avg was 82 with the panel off. is that correct? |
| 23:49.48 | bzo | lol |
| 23:49.51 | arrrghhh | stdev was huge too. |
| 23:50.00 | arrrghhh | running again. |
| 23:50.02 | toastcfh | so the gpu can do it |
| 23:50.12 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 23:50.19 | arrrghhh | avg=103, stdev=69.69 |
| 23:50.21 | toastcfh | yeah ull need to tweak the regs to find a sweet spot |
| 23:50.33 | toastcfh | in the panel |
| 23:50.54 | arrrghhh | avg=73 stdev=37.89... yea. |
| 23:51.11 | phh | what's stdev ? |
| 23:51.22 | bzo | standard deviation |
| 23:51.33 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 23:51.36 | toastcfh | pnel will be maxed at 60 im thinking. i dont think they would stab a 80mhz panel on a phone |
| 23:51.53 | phh | that's sqrt(sum of delta^2)/N ? |
| 23:52.24 | bzo | if fps2d is presenting what it is saying I guess |
| 23:52.54 | bzo | anyways, [acl] will like this new info |
| 23:53.00 | arrrghhh | i have no clue what they're using to calc standard dev in this case. |
| 23:53.17 | arrrghhh | yea i never even considered running fps2d with the screen off |
| 23:53.17 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:53.29 | bzo | who knew it would even run? |
| 23:54.18 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 23:54.23 | arrrghhh | definitely surprised there. |
| 23:54.55 | bzo | anyways toastcfh, this is good info, at least we know it is worth working on the panel perf some more |
| 23:55.00 | *** join/#htc-linux randomblame (~randombla@c-71-59-184-96.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:55.15 | randomblame | boy virtualbox is getting annoying |
| 23:55.33 | toastcfh | https://github.com/CyanogenMod/cm-kernel/commit/13f96d51963dc89fa31944673143fb710753d09a bzo |
| 23:55.53 | toastcfh | bzo phh look how bad we gots kanged ;p |
| 23:56.15 | toastcfh | they use different values though |
| 23:56.24 | toastcfh | close though |
| 23:56.42 | bzo | lol, they even copied your comments? |
| 23:57.04 | bzo | nvm, looking at it wrong |
| 23:57.43 | toastcfh | all we had to go by was some stuff maejrep reversed for the Touch pro. lucky use it was commented well. also look at the docs for our panel we used that to figure out how to tweak it |
| 23:58.36 | toastcfh | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Novatek_NT35582 |
| 23:59.13 | phh | lol ? |
| 23:59.19 | phh | you used our work and we used your work ? |
| 23:59.22 | phh | n1. |
| 23:59.28 | toastcfh | nice |
| 23:59.33 | phh | :) |
| 23:59.37 | phh | that's why we're better than HTC :D |
| 23:59.44 | toastcfh | win |
