| 00:00.04 | Cotulla | but there no QDSP6 |
| 00:00.14 | Curious_ | lol i love DSPs |
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| 00:09.44 | gauner1986 | i guess he's not talking about the kind of dsp you are thinking about |
| 00:09.46 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 00:10.37 | Cotulla | hm I am thinking now "i guess NOW after gau text he's not talking about the kind of dsp I are thinking about" |
| 00:10.48 | Cotulla | O_o |
| 00:11.06 | Curious_ | digital signal processor |
| 00:11.06 | Curious_ | ! |
| 00:11.26 | Curious_ | i am an EE guy |
| 00:11.35 | gauner1986 | java ee? |
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| 00:11.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: how insulting was that supposed to be? |
| 00:12.02 | Curious_ | NOOOOO |
| 00:12.09 | Curious_ | Electrical Engineer |
| 00:12.13 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 00:12.33 | gauner1986 | sorry |
| 00:12.34 | Curious_ | thinking of gettin DSP course next semester.. |
| 00:12.34 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 00:12.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: lucky you |
| 00:12.51 | gauner1986 | i don't have a clue about electrical stuff |
| 00:12.56 | Cotulla | I thought it some kind of drugs |
| 00:13.03 | Curious_ | LSD :D |
| 00:13.04 | gauner1986 | i'm the java guy :P |
| 00:13.11 | Curious_ | I know java too |
| 00:13.24 | Curious_ | 8051 asm |
| 00:13.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: it may hurt your feelings, but imho java is a collection of ugliest hacks ever |
| 00:13.37 | Curious_ | agreed |
| 00:13.48 | gauner1986 | alex[sp3dev] why do you think so? |
| 00:14.39 | kse | <gauner1986> i'm the java guy :P <-- java? uhh.. |
| 00:15.02 | kse | i don't like java |
| 00:15.09 | Curious_ | VM sucks |
| 00:15.24 | Cotulla | yeah, cockpoo knows! :D |
| 00:15.28 | gauner1986 | i do, it's actually quite useful for a lot of business stuff |
| 00:15.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: because aiming for binary compatibility in both direction, they've implemented everything the wrong way.. erased generics, System.in/out streams which are final and reassignable, ugly native interface.. not saying that the language itself is quite boring and requires to write a lot of code |
| 00:15.52 | Curious_ | alex so you don't like c# much too? |
| 00:16.09 | gauner1986 | erased generics? |
| 00:16.12 | gauner1986 | and yeah |
| 00:16.18 | gauner1986 | true about that writing a lot of code thesis |
| 00:16.20 | gauner1986 | that sucks |
| 00:16.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: i do like C#. because .net is implemented in a cleaner way.. and C# has a lot of syntactic sugar |
| 00:17.22 | Curious_ | well, i can say C# is well designed in terms of categorization of classes and etc |
| 00:17.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | don't confuse C# and .net |
| 00:17.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | C# is about syntax, .net - about the library |
| 00:18.11 | Curious_ | i generally hate OOP :D |
| 00:18.16 | gauner1986 | oop rules |
| 00:18.21 | Curious_ | suckz* |
| 00:18.25 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 00:18.32 | gauner1986 | because you are the electrical guy |
| 00:18.43 | Curious_ | yah |
| 00:18.45 | gauner1986 | but try to write a full blown business software with just functional code |
| 00:18.51 | gauner1986 | maintenance nightmare |
| 00:18.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | it rules, but not the way it's implemented in java though |
| 00:18.57 | crawling | nn |
| 00:19.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | ruby (smalltalk) is nicer |
| 00:19.08 | gauner1986 | ruby is nice, yeah |
| 00:19.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | though i'd not risk doing a serious project in ruby |
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| 00:19.27 | Curious_ | if there was no such thing as UI |
| 00:19.32 | gauner1986 | you can do a lot of things with less code |
| 00:19.33 | Curious_ | i wouldn't need OOP |
| 00:19.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: wrong |
| 00:19.44 | Curious_ | why? |
| 00:19.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | even linux kernel has a strong OOP model, although written in C |
| 00:20.04 | Curious_ | OOp model with structs :D |
| 00:20.11 | Curious_ | that is why i love it |
| 00:20.17 | gauner1986 | hm, true |
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| 00:20.21 | gauner1986 | you can call that oop |
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| 00:20.31 | Curious_ | the restrictions of native OOP languages suckz |
| 00:20.35 | Curious_ | the idea of OOP is nidce |
| 00:20.36 | Curious_ | nice* |
| 00:20.36 | gauner1986 | without oop it would not be what it is today |
| 00:20.56 | Curious_ | btw i hate c++ syntax |
| 00:20.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok. without the language support for oop, you have to be very careful about pointer magic |
| 00:21.20 | Curious_ | yes or else you are doomed |
| 00:21.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | but the idea of oop is not what modern industrial coding is |
| 00:21.48 | Curious_ | in terms of? |
| 00:22.06 | Rajko | Curious_, wtf are you saying |
| 00:22.14 | Curious_ | Rajko, wtf are you asking=? |
| 00:22.27 | Rajko | what is the restriction of native oop languages that sucks |
| 00:22.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway, OOP in java is completely wrong and the idea of interfaces is not enough to implement real-life concepts |
| 00:22.52 | gauner1986 | alex: why? |
| 00:22.55 | Curious_ | lack of pointers, stupid conversions |
| 00:23.01 | gauner1986 | pointers suck |
| 00:23.13 | gauner1986 | their lack saves you a lot of hassle |
| 00:23.26 | Curious_ | it should be like c++ or obj-c |
| 00:23.37 | Curious_ | not completely removed |
| 00:23.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | for example, in ruby you can dynamically mixin classes and undefine methods. so you can simulate for example, the person. he can be a student, then stop being a student. in java you'd have to spawn a new object |
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| 00:24.17 | Rajko | oh you were speaking about java Curious_ |
| 00:24.19 | Rajko | java does suck |
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| 00:24.48 | gauner1986 | alex: yeah.. that's true.. but that's a concept thing, isn't it? you can implement this in another way |
| 00:25.08 | Curious_ | Alex, yeah. When I asked TA about this saying "why so?", he couldn't say anything :) |
| 00:25.31 | Curious_ | maybe security issues? |
| 00:25.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: yeah.. anyway, one thing to understand is that you must choose a suitable tool for a task.. there's no universal solution |
| 00:25.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: to simplify the code verification |
| 00:26.02 | Curious_ | lol, that is laziness |
| 00:26.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | not at all |
| 00:26.30 | gauner1986 | alex: ack :) there are nice things to do in ruby.. so there are nice things to do in java.. or in c/c++ |
| 00:26.48 | Curious_ | ASM rocks :D |
| 00:26.59 | gauner1986 | choosing the programming language is a decision you have to make before starting a project |
| 00:27.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | you *can not* really check dynamic language code for correctness.. only to write unit tests.. and as Dijkstra said, you can never use tests to prove correctness, only to prove the incorrectness |
| 00:27.55 | Curious_ | correct |
| 00:28.06 | Curious_ | how about native vs java for android? |
| 00:28.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh.. don't even ask me about android |
| 00:28.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | the only good thing about android is that API is well-documented |
| 00:28.48 | Curious_ | :D |
| 00:29.01 | Curious_ | 'm thinking of making a game |
| 00:29.05 | Curious_ | defense-like game |
| 00:29.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | no way |
| 00:29.38 | gauner1986 | i'm not quite sure why java is popular in the embedded world.. maybe because it's easier to learn and it's portable.. but in performance terms it would not be the correct choice for an embedded device |
| 00:29.51 | Curious_ | it is fucking ABET |
| 00:29.59 | Rajko | its why we have 1ghz phones |
| 00:29.59 | Curious_ | but I dunno why ABET chose it |
| 00:30.07 | Curious_ | exactly |
| 00:30.44 | Curious_ | people learn java first according to abet. ..idiots... |
| 00:30.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: our prof keeps telling us java jit is faster than c++.. while that's true of pure math, but when it comes to loading classes and wrapping primitive types (ah.. that's my greatest point against java), its performance drops like 20 times |
| 00:31.30 | Curious_ | i would use c for math then :) |
| 00:31.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | i began hating java before i learned to program at all |
| 00:32.33 | Curious_ | i dunno why but some professional DSP researchers also use java |
| 00:32.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | that are researchers |
| 00:33.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | when you're writing a paper, it's easier to insert java snippets then manuals on compiling your uber-cool library on all platforms |
| 00:33.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway my favourite language after c and ruby is ocaml |
| 00:34.19 | Curious_ | never heard of it :) |
| 00:34.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | heard of F#? |
| 00:34.35 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 00:34.37 | gauner1986 | f# |
| 00:34.49 | Curious_ | yeah |
| 00:35.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | so F# is a simplified version of ocaml for .net |
| 00:35.04 | Curious_ | after microsoft released their shit |
| 00:35.08 | Curious_ | hmm |
| 00:35.41 | Curious_ | some likes phython.. |
| 00:36.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | the problem is that any language except c, now matter how cool it is, will hardly allow you to write a faster code than c |
| 00:36.38 | Curious_ | write in ASM ^ ^ |
| 00:36.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | no way |
| 00:37.05 | gauner1986 | asm is a mess |
| 00:37.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | i've got x86, arm and mips here.. not going to write in 3 asms |
| 00:37.11 | Curious_ | sometimes i build a circuit on my fpga to solve a problem :D |
| 00:37.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | drink and derive !!! |
| 00:37.49 | Curious_ | spartan3e-100 is powerful |
| 00:37.59 | Curious_ | and cheap.. |
| 00:39.07 | Rajko | meh, just run it on cuda |
| 00:39.17 | Curious_ | ah, on cuda. |
| 00:39.25 | Curious_ | does anyone now how to utilize cuda for matlab |
| 00:39.43 | gauner1986 | what's cuda? |
| 00:39.48 | gauner1986 | this nvidia stuff? |
| 00:40.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: you're lucky that you have DSP courses at your uni.. i'll need to learn it myself.. anyway, i'll be writing an sstv encoder/decoder as this year project |
| 00:40.32 | gauner1986 | it's a pity that we don't learn low level coding at our uni |
| 00:40.46 | Curious_ | Alex have fun with learning by yourself :) |
| 00:40.56 | Curious_ | that is how it stays permenant in your mind |
| 00:41.29 | Curious_ | CUDA utilizes gpu for computational operations other than games |
| 00:41.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: well.. you know, i hate university because it's just a waste of time sitting your arse there.. i can only learn stuff when i hack it myself.. and university leaves you little time for hacking |
| 00:41.39 | gauner1986 | i had that in mind |
| 00:41.46 | Curious_ | exactly |
| 00:41.55 | Curious_ | i hate both, but i believe i can learn software by myself |
| 00:42.07 | Curious_ | but scientific part of EE, naah |
| 00:42.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can learn software.. just visit slashdot and other unix sites and try to learn every library and technology that appeals to you |
| 00:43.03 | Curious_ | yeap. |
| 00:43.26 | Curious_ | learned c/obj-c and iphone dev like that.. |
| 00:43.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | as for EE.. i understand digital electronics.. but when it comes to physics i am a noob |
| 00:43.51 | Curious_ | we dealth with microp and digital electronics at 2nd year |
| 00:44.01 | Curious_ | now, it is all physics... |
| 00:44.16 | Curious_ | next year, there will be 2 or 3 projects of their combination |
| 00:44.43 | Curious_ | i was angry that they tought us 8051 |
| 00:44.51 | Curious_ | taught* |
| 00:45.24 | gauner1986 | i'd really like to learn the insides of embedded devices |
| 00:45.28 | gauner1986 | like microp and stuff |
| 00:45.39 | gauner1986 | but i don't really care about the physics side |
| 00:46.16 | Curious_ | read one or two books about digital electronics |
| 00:46.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think just hw without physics is easy if you have a soldering station, plenty of time and know how to make pcb with iron and laser printers |
| 00:46.22 | Curious_ | then you are done |
| 00:46.36 | Curious_ | yeah |
| 00:46.50 | Curious_ | physics is useful for big projects or manufacturing |
| 00:47.54 | Curious_ | and of course if you are not only dealing with digital part.. |
| 00:48.46 | Curious_ | learn thevenin, kirchoff and phasors. the rest is easy :) |
| 00:49.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | maybe some time in summer.. no time for it now.. gotta learn some dsp and hack some unix in winter holidays |
| 00:52.01 | Curious_ | anyways, gn8 guys |
| 00:52.06 | gauner1986 | gn8 |
| 00:52.24 | gauner1986 | hm, i never soldered and i dont have the equipment |
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| 02:06.18 | sroman | Hello #htc-linux, was wondering if anyone knows of a program that emulates x86 on the arm architecture. Im looking to do some emulation within ubuntu on my hd2. |
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| 02:07.09 | darkstone | i believe QEMU is what you're looking for |
| 02:08.15 | sroman | I was thinking qemu, but think it can support osx? Im looking to make a light build of the os and see what can be made of it. |
| 02:08.35 | sroman | I know it was done on the n900 but was way too slow to use |
| 02:09.08 | darkstone | it'll be too slow imo |
| 02:09.34 | darkstone | even on LEO |
| 02:09.56 | sroman | You think it would be faster to emulate the older "G" series processors? I know their motorola based. |
| 02:10.12 | darkstone | not sure |
| 02:10.15 | sroman | hmmm |
| 02:10.17 | darkstone | best bet is to try for yourself |
| 02:10.47 | sroman | oh, im going to... just wanted to see if anyone had some good emulators in mind. Think i'll try it out with qemu |
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| 02:15.32 | sroman | ehh... scratch the osx x86... just remembered, need to be able to emulate sse2 and above. pearpc here I come |
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| 02:19.31 | sroman | Darkstone: forgot to tell ya, nice roms. Love the RAM ones. |
| 02:20.40 | darkstone | thanks :) |
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| 04:08.54 | fakker | hey darkstone |
| 04:08.57 | fakker | forgot to tell ya |
| 04:08.59 | fakker | yous a cunt! |
| 04:09.39 | darkstone | thanks :D |
| 04:09.44 | fakker | watch top gear? |
| 04:09.49 | darkstone | not today |
| 04:09.54 | darkstone | i heard it was good |
| 04:09.57 | fakker | i liked it |
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| 04:10.11 | darkstone | was at work all day |
| 04:10.27 | fakker | been busy? i guess yea |
| 04:10.31 | darkstone | yeah |
| 04:10.37 | darkstone | suprisingly busy for boxing day |
| 04:10.39 | darkstone | i cant complain |
| 04:10.46 | darkstone | just suprised is al |
| 04:10.48 | darkstone | l |
| 04:10.49 | fakker | it's all ££ |
| 04:10.58 | fakker | yeah, woulda thought xmas left overs for boxing day |
| 04:14.13 | darkstone | haha yeah |
| 04:14.15 | darkstone | ah well |
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| 04:29.21 | sroman | Any way to stop the dbag on xda who claims he cracked the magldr.rar files? |
| 04:29.53 | sroman | lol |
| 04:30.18 | sroman | he's gonna piss off the wrong people |
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| 04:56.22 | dharvey4651 | sroman - direct me to the thread. i'll take care of it |
| 04:56.28 | dharvey4651 | im the mod over that forum |
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| 05:23.57 | sroman | dharvey4651: come back! |
| 05:24.01 | sroman | lol |
| 05:24.16 | sroman | just read the log for after I left. |
| 05:24.23 | sroman | any xda mods on here? |
| 05:31.25 | noellenchris | sroman where is the thread? |
| 05:31.33 | noellenchris | I'll pm him on xda |
| 05:31.41 | sroman | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881618 |
| 05:31.55 | noellenchris | thx |
| 05:31.56 | sroman | omegareactivated is his name |
| 05:32.32 | sroman | im mobile_mogul on ther. I understand that I added to the mess by posting in that thread, but I had to get that guy to calm down |
| 05:32.47 | sroman | he was absolutely freaking out |
| 05:40.23 | noellenchris | I pm'd him with the thread...I seen him earlier also posting crap |
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| 05:42.29 | sroman | noellenchris: Yeah, I have him finally posting with a normal voice. No caps, no threats, no craziness... |
| 05:42.52 | sroman | Hope nobody gets him all riled up again. |
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| 06:58.51 | ocm | Until it can be confirmed that its not crap i wouldnt push him... a leak of an old version of magldr would cause quite an uproar |
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| 14:23.07 | DuperMan | dcordes: congrats on releasing ubuntu 0.3 for the HD2! can't wait the check it out:D |
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| 14:26.08 | gauner1986 | hi letama. thanks for your description yesterday.. you went off too quick :) |
| 14:26.31 | DuperMan | that's what she said! |
| 14:26.31 | LeTama | hi gauner1986, you're welcome... |
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| 14:26.38 | DuperMan | /lurk |
| 14:27.07 | LeTama | so, how is it going on your side ? |
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| 14:30.01 | MN_ | Hello |
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| 14:53.25 | gauner1986 | letama: fine so far. i'm still trying to find out about the battery drainage problems on my dhd rom. :) |
| 14:53.36 | gauner1986 | letama: and for you? |
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| 15:07.53 | Home | hello |
| 15:09.12 | Home | I'm trying to mods JDMS rom with RAM methods after boot it seems that radio is not turn on, what is my mistake ? |
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| 15:26.19 | LeTama | gauner1986: battery drainage ? liblights maybe ? I had problems with it in my build. |
| 15:26.44 | LeTama | gauner1986: been busy with personal stuff these days and my new desire Z |
| 15:27.32 | gauner1986 | uh, desire z :D |
| 15:27.36 | gauner1986 | nice |
| 15:27.44 | LeTama | gauner1986: yes, nice phone, but a bit scary to play with, with this damn security |
| 15:27.48 | gauner1986 | dunno, i havent found the source |
| 15:27.54 | gauner1986 | but it's draining like hell |
| 15:28.01 | gauner1986 | i will investigate liblights |
| 15:28.12 | gauner1986 | letama: securityà |
| 15:28.12 | LeTama | you have current widget ? |
| 15:28.22 | gauner1986 | no, searching for a good one |
| 15:29.45 | LeTama | gauner1986: ok... mine was around permanent 56 ma, not going to power collapse |
| 15:30.19 | gauner1986 | letama: problem is the new battery driver doesnt show power drainage anymore |
| 15:30.26 | gauner1986 | no dbgfs |
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| 15:30.58 | LeTama | yes... I used current widget to track down the problem. |
| 15:31.21 | gauner1986 | which one? |
| 15:31.53 | LeTama | its name is "current widget" |
| 15:32.25 | LeTama | it's probably not fully reliable, but it helps |
| 15:33.25 | gauner1986 | yeah, probably a starting point |
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| 15:47.41 | LeTama | gauner1986: desire Z / G2 / HD have a write protection scheme. It was hacked, but it's dangerous to play with. |
| 15:48.01 | gauner1986 | haha :D |
| 15:48.10 | gauner1986 | why dangerous? |
| 15:48.14 | LeTama | gauner1986: I was shocked to see that HD2 performs better than stock desire Z |
| 15:48.23 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 15:48.38 | gauner1986 | i think it's not yet worth it to buy a new phobe |
| 15:48.40 | gauner1986 | phone |
| 15:48.42 | LeTama | gauner1986: if you reflash stock, you can end up with brick |
| 15:48.50 | gauner1986 | hardware differences are only minimal |
| 15:49.42 | LeTama | gauner1986: yes, nothing really groundbreaking. I just wanted a native android and it costed me only 30 E with new contract |
| 15:50.13 | gauner1986 | mine runs out in the middle of the next year |
| 15:50.18 | gauner1986 | lets see what we have then |
| 15:50.20 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 15:50.42 | gauner1986 | hoping for some dualcore phone |
| 15:50.53 | LeTama | yes, hd2 is behaving very well finally |
| 15:51.11 | LeTama | keyboard is nice though |
| 15:51.42 | Home | any one can explain what is libhtc_ril_wrapper.so use for ? |
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| 15:51.55 | gauner1986 | hey cotulla |
| 15:52.07 | LeTama | Home: It manages pppd |
| 15:52.14 | LeTama | hello Cotulla |
| 15:52.53 | Cotulla | hey ppl |
| 15:54.56 | esetyawan | LeTama, what is happen if i deleted that file ? |
| 15:56.12 | LeTama | esetyawan: without modifying init.rc, you'll loose calls/data at best, or won't boot |
| 15:56.54 | LeTama | esetyawan: if you revert init.rc to htc ril, you'll go back to rmnet but you need a kernel that supports it |
| 15:56.56 | esetyawan | LeTama, oh ic ic that's why my in mods the phone is not working :) |
| 15:58.14 | LeTama | esetyawan: check ril-daemon in init.rc, it must be properly and service must be running if you want phone to work |
| 15:58.24 | LeTama | *properly declared |
| 15:58.40 | esetyawan | LeTama, ok thanks |
| 15:59.00 | LeTama | esetyawan: you're welcome. Good luck! |
| 16:00.44 | LeTama | gauner1986: so you want to plug hd2 target into gingerbread cyanogen ? |
| 16:01.01 | gauner1986 | would be nice, yeah |
| 16:02.26 | LeTama | cool! I'm running 6.0 on the hd2, 6.1 on the desire Z, it would be nice to have gingerbread on the hd2 |
| 16:03.39 | gauner1986 | hm.. would be handy to have the cputime of processes displayed in the logs |
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| 16:12.01 | mdeejay | hi |
| 16:12.20 | LeTama | hi mdeejay |
| 16:14.01 | AstainHellbring | Cotulla how goes it |
| 16:14.03 | AstainHellbring | morning mdeejay |
| 16:14.21 | AstainHellbring | love your dhd sense rom port |
| 16:14.31 | mdeejay | night AstainHellbrung |
| 16:14.47 | mdeejay | *AstainHellbring |
| 16:15.35 | mdeejay | omg cm git size = 6gb |
| 16:17.11 | mdeejay | why cyanogen disabled screen off animation? |
| 16:17.16 | mdeejay | :( |
| 16:17.52 | gauner1986 | hi mdeejay |
| 16:18.09 | gauner1986 | yeah.. it finished at 3am tonight |
| 16:18.10 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 16:18.21 | mdeejay | hi gauner1986 hi LeTama |
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| 16:18.41 | LeTama | mdeejay: I think I read somewhere animation causes problems with gingerbread |
| 16:19.13 | mdeejay | hm |
| 16:19.28 | MN_ | Hello |
| 16:19.36 | LeTama | mdeejay: I think you're using 2k smd_tty patch, right ? |
| 16:19.42 | LeTama | how is the feedback with it ? |
| 16:19.51 | AstainHellbring | I've used a rom with the screen off animation on desire worked well |
| 16:20.32 | mdeejay | LeTama im using only wifi for internet :( |
| 16:20.57 | LeTama | mdeejay: ok. Nothing from your kernel users ? |
| 16:21.19 | mdeejay | nothing :( |
| 16:21.35 | LeTama | ok, no feedback, good feedback! :) |
| 16:21.50 | mdeejay | :) |
| 16:22.33 | IzaacJ | hello :) is there an app to mount an ext2 partition in windows? tried ext2fsd but it can't mount if the partition isn't the first partition on the drive |
| 16:23.01 | noellenchris | merry xmas LeTama |
| 16:23.19 | LeTama | hey noellenchris! Thanks, merry xmas to you |
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| 16:24.18 | noellenchris | I haven't had smy loop for a long time, but I also have been rebooting at a minimum every other day, just because it's habit..lol |
| 16:24.46 | noellenchris | the wrapper and newer kernels work great. Now what's the next project? :P |
| 16:25.15 | mdeejay | need fix GPS & lights for ginger... |
| 16:25.23 | mdeejay | bread :D |
| 16:26.39 | gauner1986 | *eating some gingerbread* |
| 16:28.19 | MN_ | hi gauner1986 LeTama Cotulla |
| 16:33.10 | esetyawan | mdeejay, have you fix camcoder problem on ginger ? |
| 16:33.18 | mdeejay | no |
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| 16:33.43 | esetyawan | mdeejay, is that kernel problem or framework problem ? |
| 16:34.01 | mdeejay | app & libs i guess |
| 16:34.14 | esetyawan | ah ic |
| 16:34.23 | gauner1986 | mdeejay: did you build gingerbread cm yet? |
| 16:34.32 | esetyawan | same problem with your streak RAM release ? |
| 16:35.11 | MN_ | cm gingerbread is still in alpha phase yet isnt it ? |
| 16:35.46 | esetyawan | LeTama, wanna to say thanks for your tips, my phone is work now |
| 16:36.17 | mdeejay | gauner1986 im copy git files to 64bit ubuntu |
| 16:36.28 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 16:36.52 | gauner1986 | i'm trying to set up a leo vendor based on letamas stuff now |
| 16:37.04 | mdeejay | cool |
| 16:37.10 | esetyawan | any one can give me link for new market ? |
| 16:37.31 | mdeejay | esetyawan ->chat |
| 16:37.37 | MN_ | esetyawan: ask on -chat |
| 16:37.45 | esetyawan | oh ic ok |
| 16:37.51 | IzaacJ | is a 17GB ubuntu installation enough to work on? I'd like to start learning to build android builds for the HD2 :P and would love some recommendations to get started :D |
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| 16:40.38 | esetyawan | how to check library dependency for arm based library ? |
| 16:40.44 | esetyawan | like ldd in x86 ? |
| 16:40.59 | LeTama | esetyawan: readelf |
| 16:41.12 | esetyawan | where i can get it ? |
| 16:41.23 | LeTama | it's part of the toolchain |
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| 16:41.37 | esetyawan | ok thanks |
| 16:41.38 | mally2 | hi |
| 16:42.20 | mally2 | ok cool this works.... was trying for almost a day to get this working :) |
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| 16:48.10 | darkstone | hey LeTama |
| 16:48.32 | darkstone | may I ask how you made the htcleo.acdb file? |
| 16:48.43 | esetyawan | anyone is it ok to ask modding themes here ? |
| 16:49.17 | LeTama | hey darkstone |
| 16:49.28 | MN_ | ask in chat esetyawan |
| 16:50.13 | LeTama | yes: I modified a kernel to query acdb values in memory after wince boot |
| 16:50.31 | LeTama | then built an userspace app to get these and rebuild acdb file |
| 16:50.48 | darkstone | ah :D |
| 16:50.52 | esetyawan | darkstone, what is maximum size for RAM build system.ext2 image ? |
| 16:51.10 | darkstone | esetyawan: no maximum apart from max ram limitation of hardware |
| 16:51.40 | darkstone | LeTama: was wondering because I still get the 'robot voice' problem occasionally |
| 16:52.21 | LeTama | darkstone: hum. I noticed that video recording with wrong profile/encoding could mess up audio completely |
| 16:52.46 | darkstone | just wanted to see if i could modify the file myself |
| 16:53.31 | LeTama | darkstone: is it EU or US HD2 ? |
| 16:53.44 | darkstone | EU |
| 16:54.21 | LeTama | ok. I have to run to get my train, I'll be back soon. If you want I can give you what I have to do it according to your wince rom ? |
| 16:54.22 | darkstone | i'm using the htcleo file from this commit: http://gitorious.org/xdandroid_leo/qsd8k/commit/13ddfb42309db6ed5d057bedff6dc58a4dd18b6b |
| 16:54.36 | darkstone | I assume this is the latest? |
| 16:54.39 | LeTama | yes, it's the one I use |
| 16:54.41 | darkstone | sure :) |
| 16:55.07 | darkstone | thanks |
| 16:55.13 | LeTama | np, ttyl |
| 16:55.19 | darkstone | bb |
| 16:55.23 | Samsunguy | Bb |
| 17:00.46 | MN_ | gauner1986: what battery drainage issue are you trying to solve? |
| 17:06.48 | gauner1986 | my dhd rom has some drainage issues while in standby |
| 17:08.00 | MN_ | ah okay i use currentwidget to find out my drainage in standby |
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| 17:22.01 | MN_ | Cotulla: how are you |
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| 18:19.05 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: ping me when you get on. need to talk to you about where you came up with some of the addys in your nand panel init. |
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| 18:29.01 | mickey| | dcordes: hey. how are things? |
| 18:30.21 | LeTama | darkstone: back |
| 18:30.50 | LeTama | darkstone: you can grab this: http://home.lestamas.fr:8080/acdbkit.zip |
| 18:31.06 | MN_Away | hey LeTama |
| 18:31.11 | LeTama | hi MN |
| 18:31.33 | MN_Away | how are you |
| 18:31.41 | LeTama | good and you ? |
| 18:31.55 | MN_Away | im good myself |
| 18:32.47 | LeTama | darkstone: there is a patch for the kernel plus the userspace app source, and a script for building it |
| 18:34.12 | LeTama | you may have troubles applying the patch as this was with an rather old kernel |
| 18:35.52 | LeTama | the userspace app needs a native android default.acdb that it uses as template, it must be in same directory |
| 18:38.42 | darkstone | LeTama: thanks :) |
| 18:38.48 | darkstone | i'll check it out later |
| 18:39.32 | LeTama | check userspace source for potential hardcoded path... I did that quite long time ago, forgot almost all :) |
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| 18:40.33 | darkstone | :p |
| 18:43.22 | darkstone | what toolchain did you compile userspace source with? |
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| 18:47.02 | darkstone | nnl |
| 18:47.04 | darkstone | bbl |
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| 18:56.00 | LeTama | darkstone: codesourcery 2010q1 |
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| 18:59.47 | reactor16 | hi all |
| 18:59.58 | reactor16 | any one here ? |
| 19:00.42 | MN__ | yes |
| 19:01.13 | reactor16 | is there any tutorial to port a driver from x86 to mips arch ? |
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| 19:03.27 | reactor16 | ? |
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| 19:04.05 | reactor16 | if there is for arm also will be helpefull :D |
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| 19:58.53 | MN_ | hi domz |
| 19:59.41 | phh | reactor16: driver for what ? |
| 19:59.54 | phh | well the answer shuold be no either way |
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| 20:06.50 | reactor16 | phh driver for wlan |
| 20:06.56 | reactor16 | ath |
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| 20:13.01 | phh | reactor16: it shouldn't need anything ... |
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| 20:16.39 | akirax | hi |
| 20:18.51 | MN_ | akirax: hi |
| 20:19.47 | akirax | whats up? |
| 20:19.57 | akirax | :) |
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| 20:26.01 | akirax | what silence! |
| 20:26.12 | gauner1986 | lighten us up |
| 20:26.18 | gauner1986 | with some groundbreaking leo news |
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| 20:27.47 | MN_ | gauner1986: i agree provide the news :P |
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| 20:36.02 | akirax | gauner... what about b.king fries? ;) |
| 20:36.36 | gauner1986 | they're tasty |
| 20:36.42 | gauner1986 | gotta have some of them in a minute |
| 20:37.19 | akirax | ok |
| 20:38.16 | akirax | i'm going to have supper |
| 20:38.58 | ocm | anyways |
| 20:38.59 | ocm | bbl |
| 20:39.28 | akirax | but i'm full... |
| 20:39.37 | akirax | :s |
| 20:43.12 | akirax | seeyou later guys... |
| 20:44.45 | reactor16 | phh what you mean by 'it shouldn't need anything ? |
| 20:45.04 | phh | I mean that the driver should work as is |
| 20:46.18 | reactor16 | but driver is targeted to x86 |
| 20:46.37 | reactor16 | but i want to compile it for a mips machine |
| 20:47.27 | phh | what do you mean with "targeteted" ? |
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| 20:47.58 | reactor16 | the driver i want to compile for mips arch is for x86 linux |
| 20:50.02 | reactor16 | phh understand ? |
| 20:50.04 | phh | what do you mean with "is for" ? |
| 20:50.38 | reactor16 | the driver is developed to work on x86 linux |
| 20:50.48 | reactor16 | its ath9k_htc |
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| 21:13.48 | reactor16 | phh you say something ? |
| 21:14.18 | phh | reactor16: "developer for xxx" doesn't mean anything |
| 21:14.22 | phh | C code is potrable |
| 21:14.28 | phh | linux APIs are too |
| 21:14.40 | phh | there is no assembler, or anything specific x86 involved |
| 21:18.52 | reactor16 | phh https://github.com/lacombar/linux-compat |
| 21:19.38 | reactor16 | can i compile this to work on my mips machine ? |
| 21:19.50 | phh | try it , |
| 21:19.52 | phh | ?* |
| 21:20.09 | reactor16 | thant what i want to do |
| 21:20.29 | reactor16 | but i don't know from where i start |
| 21:20.54 | phh | make ? |
| 21:21.53 | reactor16 | http://pastebin.com/daXvJaJd |
| 21:23.56 | reactor16 | you see something wrong ? |
| 21:25.29 | phh | yes. |
| 21:25.36 | phh | there is a limit to backward compatibility. |
| 21:26.03 | reactor16 | and how do to fix it ? |
| 21:26.17 | phh | without great C skill ? |
| 21:26.19 | phh | you don't |
| 21:26.49 | reactor16 | that what i mess |
| 21:26.56 | phh | or you update your kernel |
| 21:27.00 | phh | 2.6.18 is . |
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| 21:27.05 | phh | well not even old |
| 21:27.05 | reactor16 | right |
| 21:27.06 | phh | not obsolete |
| 21:27.10 | phh | but |
| 21:27.12 | phh | still really old. |
| 21:27.13 | MN_ | hello |
| 21:28.07 | reactor16 | dreambox project don't release kernel futher than 2.6.18 they say it stable and work fine :( |
| 21:29.40 | phh | too bad fro you |
| 21:29.41 | phh | for* |
| 21:30.19 | reactor16 | yes |
| 21:31.11 | MN_ | hi gauner1986 Cotulla |
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