| 00:08.21 | WisTilt2 | F22: can you put up this test kernel pack for testing for rhodium users? i'd like to have more than just the few testers trying this panel init. I also increased the speakerphone volume levels since people were saying it was too low. |
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| 00:52.54 | XirXes_ | WisTilt2: could you send a link my way? F22 hasn't posted yet but im eager to play with it |
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| 00:54.51 | WisTilt2 | F22 must be passed out drinking eggnog already |
| 00:54.59 | WisTilt2 | heya arrrghhh:) |
| 00:55.01 | arrrghhh | what up |
| 00:55.07 | arrrghhh | just saw you want moar testers |
| 00:55.11 | arrrghhh | i can throw up that kernel for ya :D |
| 00:55.31 | WisTilt2 | yes. its in the usual place but its called wistilt2-kernel-pack.zip |
| 00:55.40 | arrrghhh | ah thanks |
| 00:55.47 | arrrghhh | i was just downloading kernel-pack.zip :P |
| 00:55.55 | WisTilt2 | test autobl, in-call volume and speakerphone volume, much louder now |
| 00:56.02 | arrrghhh | awesome |
| 00:56.17 | arrrghhh | i love mah speakerphone loud. it needs to make people's ears bleed if at all possible. |
| 00:56.17 | WisTilt2 | can hear it across the room at level 5 now lol |
| 00:56.29 | WisTilt2 | i have it defaulted to 4 |
| 00:56.47 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 00:57.27 | WisTilt2 | one thing you might mention wherever you post it... if panel doesnt come on out of sleep just touch the screen it will come on. its only happened a couple times to me and dont know what causes it yet. |
| 00:57.33 | arrrghhh | ok any panel init stuff in here as well? |
| 00:57.53 | WisTilt2 | battery life should be way way lower with this, especially if using bzo's patch for mode 1 |
| 00:58.26 | WisTilt2 | yes fully panel init in the board file along with autobl in there too, not in microp anymore. |
| 00:58.49 | arrrghhh | awesome |
| 00:58.57 | arrrghhh | i probably missed something, but i'm posting it now :P |
| 00:59.23 | WisTilt2 | i still have to correct the mic cancellation to get rid of the low noise but with the louder levels now you cant hardly here it. |
| 00:59.41 | arrrghhh | XirXes_: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885550 |
| 00:59.44 | arrrghhh | happy happy day :D |
| 00:59.50 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 01:00.05 | arrrghhh | imma post this to ppcg real quick, then i gotta go home. |
| 01:00.46 | WisTilt2 | ok me too shortly. was working with pohket a good part of the day on the camera table issues but i think he fell asleep:) |
| 01:01.09 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 01:01.11 | arrrghhh | how's that going? |
| 01:01.14 | arrrghhh | i need to catch up on the logs. |
| 01:01.54 | WisTilt2 | close. maybe for a final xmas present it will be figured out, that would be nice. |
| 01:02.06 | arrrghhh | hahaha that would be awesome. |
| 01:02.14 | arrrghhh | i saw kov's can actually take pics now. |
| 01:02.58 | WisTilt2 | too bad rhods are a different beast for whatever reason. they like to confuse us |
| 01:03.32 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 01:03.33 | arrrghhh | damn htc |
| 01:03.39 | arrrghhh | can't make anything even remotely standard. |
| 01:04.03 | arrrghhh | ah well. 3 minutes of free 'work' for the bank... |
| 01:04.05 | WisTilt2 | nope. they certainly think bassackwards dont they |
| 01:04.12 | arrrghhh | yes... yes they do. |
| 01:04.22 | arrrghhh | i'll cya guys, goin home. hopefully cya tomorrow WisTilt2 :D |
| 01:04.30 | XirXes_ | auot bl definitly works |
| 01:04.31 | WisTilt2 | later, i may be on later |
| 01:04.40 | arrrghhh | cool. peace! |
| 01:04.52 | WisTilt2 | did you try it after full sleep and screen came back on ok? |
| 01:05.04 | XirXes_ | trying now |
| 01:05.16 | WisTilt2 | btw, green flashing is sleep on my kernels:) |
| 01:05.29 | XirXes_ | hadnt let it sleep yet just barely booted and enabled auto bl |
| 01:06.27 | XirXes_ | yup works just fine. woke really quick too |
| 01:06.49 | XirXes_ | when it woke up the led was solid green for a bit tho |
| 01:07.47 | XirXes_ | speaker phone is noisy |
| 01:07.51 | WisTilt2 | yeah solid green is wake also. will go to amber sometimes but just for debugging |
| 01:08.10 | WisTilt2 | how noisy? audio should be way over the noise. |
| 01:08.26 | XirXes_ | like phone near a speaker noise |
| 01:09.01 | XirXes_ | pretty, i can still hear what the voicemail lady is saying but the noise is at about the same level |
| 01:09.01 | WisTilt2 | is the audio loud though and over the noise? what phone you have i forget? |
| 01:09.08 | XirXes_ | 210 |
| 01:09.11 | XirXes_ | rhod |
| 01:09.30 | WisTilt2 | hmm, i can barely hear the noise on my 300 unless i put my ear up to it. |
| 01:09.53 | WisTilt2 | volume working in speakerphone still? |
| 01:10.42 | XirXes_ | i just had the panel reinit issue as well but tapping it woke it right up |
| 01:10.54 | XirXes_ | volume is working fine |
| 01:11.08 | WisTilt2 | is highest volume too loud? |
| 01:11.20 | WisTilt2 | distorting or anything like that? |
| 01:11.22 | XirXes_ | no, just right i think |
| 01:11.56 | WisTilt2 | i think its going to differ between phones. |
| 01:12.41 | XirXes_ | is music playback working right on your phone? alot of the time when i start a song it plays the first few seconds then skips the rest of the track and plays the next one |
| 01:12.46 | WisTilt2 | interested to see how much power saving you get now. i went from 3-4% per hour to 1.8% with the panel init. havent put in bzo's fix so i can run mode 1 yet though so should be much lower. |
| 01:12.54 | XirXes_ | not specific to your kernel tho |
| 01:13.02 | XirXes_ | ive had the issue for a while |
| 01:13.13 | WisTilt2 | yeah mine works fine. listened to several songs and some videos with no prob |
| 01:14.05 | XirXes_ | hmm, i didnt have the prob with my old device but i did an insurance replacement recently |
| 01:15.26 | XirXes_ | i just started the music player on it a second ago and it played a few seconds of the first track I picked then skipped. the second track is still playing tho |
| 01:15.38 | XirXes_ | could just be an oc issue tho |
| 01:16.17 | WisTilt2 | what oc you run? |
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| 01:17.21 | XirXes_ | 614 or something, i got the number from F22 and it improved my stability alot from my old value |
| 01:18.00 | WisTilt2 | i run 700 with no probs, anything higher its a crapshoot |
| 01:18.08 | XirXes_ | agreed |
| 01:20.01 | the_decoy | 614400 (I use the same) |
| 01:20.14 | XirXes_ | yeah thats it |
| 01:20.24 | WisTilt2 | what phone decoy? |
| 01:20.34 | the_decoy | RHOD110 (Telstra TP2) |
| 01:20.40 | the_decoy | essentially RHOD100_uk |
| 01:21.12 | the_decoy | I was reasonably stable on 716 but the heat and battery use was nuts |
| 01:21.21 | WisTilt2 | ok guys going home. catch ya tomorrow |
| 01:21.27 | XirXes_ | cya |
| 01:22.41 | the_decoy | Hey did anybody else have any problem with running neopeek (or any root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 startup) with the 1245 kernel? |
| 01:23.08 | the_decoy | I have no problem with 1242 but 1245 just fails to mount root part |
| 01:23.44 | the_decoy | sometimes it hangs waiting for it and other times just fails to see it althogether and then reboots after 7sec |
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| 02:39.04 | F22 | good evening gentlemen |
| 02:39.25 | F22 | looks like i missed wis. |
| 02:41.17 | arrrghhh | yes, yes you did. |
| 02:41.20 | arrrghhh | i bearly caught him |
| 02:42.54 | F22 | new test kernel i take it.. |
| 02:43.33 | F22 | no new commits to post. |
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| 02:45.34 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 02:45.36 | arrrghhh | i threw it up |
| 02:45.39 | arrrghhh | all over the place |
| 02:45.47 | F22 | wifi seems rather random for non-rhodium...some people say 1242 works but 1245 doesn't, others say 1245 works, but 1242 didn't. looking at glemsom's site, there were lots of complaints on his kernels too. |
| 02:45.51 | arrrghhh | hurk |
| 02:45.57 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 02:46.02 | arrrghhh | i wonder how many ppl f-ed it up tho. |
| 02:46.15 | F22 | that's my suspicion, yes. |
| 02:46.33 | arrrghhh | i *hate* the PEBKAC factor. |
| 02:46.43 | arrrghhh | er |
| 02:46.54 | arrrghhh | PEBPAH |
| 02:46.56 | arrrghhh | LOL |
| 02:47.43 | F22 | what's that stand for? |
| 02:48.12 | arrrghhh | problem exists between phone and hand |
| 02:48.16 | F22 | lol |
| 02:49.04 | F22 | phone geek version of hypochondria |
| 02:49.29 | F22 | although the problems are real, just self-inflicted. |
| 02:52.17 | arrrghhh | nice. does that mean the hypochondria is justified? |
| 02:52.42 | JesusFreak316 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.44 | JesusFreak316 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1997249 |
| 02:53.26 | JesusFreak316 | Crap, wrong channel. |
| 02:54.36 | DuperMan | lol |
| 02:58.27 | F22 | lol, medically no. phone geek hypochrondria i think is just blaming the gadget when you fubar'd it yourself. |
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| 03:55.24 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's up dude. i spread you gospel, not much in the way of response to speak of yet. mostly positive :D |
| 03:57.24 | WisTilt2 | anyone complaining about speakerphone noise still? should be much less with higher audio level but i guess the rhod210 is different. xirxes said noise is almost as loud as audio on it. |
| 03:58.01 | arrrghhh | hrm. no complaints yet. hasn't been out that long tho. |
| 03:58.25 | JesusFreak316 | http://www.turner.com/planet/duke.html lol |
| 03:59.05 | XirXes_ | mine may be special. its pretty different from my original. colored buttons, start button instead of home button. wierd music issues... |
| 03:59.15 | JesusFreak316 | Grr, wrong channel again. |
| 03:59.16 | WisTilt2 | i can barely hear the noise on my 300 and audio fills the room easily at level 4 and 5. |
| 03:59.42 | arrrghhh | weird. did you notice you can turn it down while on speakerphone and it seems to return to the earpiece speaker? |
| 03:59.50 | arrrghhh | it still indicates that it's on speakerphone tho. |
| 03:59.57 | WisTilt2 | xirxes has the panel not initialize out of sleep happened more than the one time so far? |
| 04:00.09 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, that hasn't happened to me yet. |
| 04:00.17 | XirXes_ | once or twice. i wouldnt call it frequent |
| 04:00.30 | F22 | hiya wis, i'm around, but busy on the phone atm. haven't had a chance to try your new test kernel yet. will try it once i get off the phone. |
| 04:01.12 | WisTilt2 | hmm, vol shouldnt have anything to do with routing to earpiece. does it happen on vol up or down or what exact method? |
| 04:01.17 | WisTilt2 | hey F22 |
| 04:01.46 | WisTilt2 | xirxes touching screen brings it on when in that condition everytime though right? |
| 04:01.52 | XirXes_ | yeah |
| 04:02.12 | WisTilt2 | ok, that gives me an idea where to look |
| 04:02.21 | arrrghhh | maybe it just goes that quiet. |
| 04:02.26 | arrrghhh | volume definitely goes plenty loud |
| 04:03.03 | XirXes_ | volume worked perfect for me but ill double check to see if mine goes back to earpiece |
| 04:03.25 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: actually audio in speakerphone mode still comes out of earpiece somewhat right now. until i get mic cancellation working 100% both output paths need to be on. |
| 04:03.44 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 04:03.44 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 04:03.52 | arrrghhh | it seems to almost turn off the rear speaker |
| 04:03.57 | arrrghhh | volume gets insanely loud tho |
| 04:04.02 | arrrghhh | in both earpiece and speaker. |
| 04:04.18 | XirXes_ | yeah it comes out both on mine. |
| 04:04.29 | WisTilt2 | at full volume are you getting any distortion out of rear speaker? i have it set pretty high but below overdriving hopefully. |
| 04:04.36 | XirXes_ | but that static is real bad on mine |
| 04:04.48 | XirXes_ | no distortion |
| 04:04.51 | arrrghhh | hrm i don't notice static. |
| 04:04.59 | arrrghhh | distortion... not sure. it's freakin loud tho. |
| 04:05.20 | WisTilt2 | you can easily hear across the room loud? |
| 04:05.20 | XirXes_ | ill try rebooting and see if that helps |
| 04:05.58 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i assume this kernel has the newest commits in it? |
| 04:06.08 | arrrghhh | yea easily. |
| 04:06.31 | arrrghhh | i still get some static indeed |
| 04:06.33 | arrrghhh | but it's not horrible. |
| 04:06.40 | WisTilt2 | all commits except bzo's. gitorious died and i cant pull his patch. |
| 04:06.52 | arrrghhh | bah |
| 04:06.54 | XirXes_ | mines as loud if not louder than the call |
| 04:06.54 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 04:07.19 | WisTilt2 | really want to get it. im sure with that and this panel init code i will be seeing 1% or less battery drain in sleep. |
| 04:07.30 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 04:07.45 | arrrghhh | yea, volume all the way down seems to turn off the rear speaker while in speakerphone. |
| 04:07.54 | arrrghhh | i don't really hear anything out of it other than the faint static. |
| 04:07.56 | WisTilt2 | xirxes: hopefully some other people with the 210 can try it and see if they get same as your's. |
| 04:08.15 | XirXes_ | well F22 has one |
| 04:08.31 | XirXes_ | jabs F22 |
| 04:08.33 | arrrghhh | indeed he does |
| 04:08.40 | WisTilt2 | all the way down will be off. i have lowest level 0 set to value 0. should still get low audio out of earpiece though. |
| 04:08.44 | F22 | still on phone |
| 04:09.09 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, oic. is that what we would expect, or do you just have it like that for testing? |
| 04:09.56 | WisTilt2 | just until i get the dual mic cancellation working right. after that, static will be gone and speakerphone quality will dramatically improve. |
| 04:10.17 | XirXes_ | on another note i feel like the lowest setting auto bl sets is too low, my room is pretty dark and since its not picking up any light it sets the phone to the lowest possible brightness |
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| 04:11.04 | WisTilt2 | xirxes: thats good info thanks. i can set the range, just need to know stuff like that from people. |
| 04:11.20 | XirXes_ | i figured you'd be the one to tell |
| 04:11.47 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 04:12.04 | WisTilt2 | right now its using levels 4-256 so sounds like minimum might want to go up to 10-12 or so. |
| 04:12.31 | arrrghhh | yea ring volume was almost inaudible until i turned it up. |
| 04:13.13 | arrrghhh | i'm assuming it's supposed to go to full brightness on wake and then adjust to the ambient light? |
| 04:13.14 | WisTilt2 | huh? what's your ring vol set to in settings? |
| 04:13.34 | arrrghhh | well someone called and i could bearly hear it. i just cranked it all the way up. |
| 04:14.01 | XirXes_ | hooray. i didnt have to fight with system_server when it booted |
| 04:14.28 | arrrghhh | eh i think i might've just had it riciulously low, no worries. |
| 04:14.44 | WisTilt2 | yes, will vary brightness for about 1/2 sec after power up to get the ambient values to average, then adjust pretty quick to current light hitting sensor. |
| 04:14.45 | arrrghhh | ridiculously |
| 04:14.53 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 04:15.42 | WisTilt2 | i have ambient dimming stepping fairly slow but when it sees high light it should jump to high brightness real fast. |
| 04:15.44 | XirXes_ | static still loud |
| 04:16.31 | WisTilt2 | xirxes can you try it with oc off completely and see if that changes it at all? you might be hearing cpu noise in the speaker amp. |
| 04:16.32 | XirXes_ | i like how your code handles the backlight compared to winmo. winmo is real jumpy about it |
| 04:16.42 | XirXes_ | can do |
| 04:16.51 | arrrghhh | oh that's a good point, i'm not oc'd at all. |
| 04:17.18 | WisTilt2 | im oc'd 700 and barely hear any noise |
| 04:17.30 | WisTilt2 | actually have to put up to ear and really listen for it. |
| 04:17.36 | arrrghhh | yup, same. |
| 04:17.51 | arrrghhh | if i turn up the speakerphone it seems to turn up the static too, but it's not bad at all. |
| 04:18.09 | XirXes_ | yeah mine changes with the volume |
| 04:18.10 | WisTilt2 | i should remember this but you have 400 or 500? |
| 04:18.16 | XirXes_ | 400 |
| 04:18.18 | arrrghhh | has a 400 |
| 04:18.28 | WisTilt2 | who had the 500 arrrghhh? |
| 04:18.29 | arrrghhh | i don't expect you to remember that :P |
| 04:18.31 | arrrghhh | nate |
| 04:18.47 | WisTilt2 | thats right. need him to try this kernel, he had good input also. |
| 04:18.54 | arrrghhh | indeed he does |
| 04:19.15 | arrrghhh | ha, just had the panel init problem. |
| 04:19.22 | arrrghhh | touch the screen, immediatley lights up. |
| 04:20.45 | WisTilt2 | i think that has something to do with whatever calls unblank and mddi init and timing. |
| 04:20.52 | arrrghhh | ahb |
| 04:21.05 | arrrghhh | timing issue makes sense for sure. |
| 04:23.11 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: give it a good test overnight if you can to see how much lower battery drain you get. this panel code actually powers down all of the panel now that we can init it. you thought phone was cold in sleep before, mine feels like its turned of in the morning now. |
| 04:23.28 | arrrghhh | nice. |
| 04:23.38 | arrrghhh | hrm... i guess i can set an actual alarm clock :P |
| 04:24.51 | WisTilt2 | i really wish i could get bzo's patch pulled! im really thinking below 1% per hr is where we'll be with that included. 3+ days of standby easily. |
| 04:25.21 | XirXes_ | are you not able to get it cause of gits url not working? |
| 04:25.24 | arrrghhh | that'll match winmo i'd say |
| 04:25.26 | WisTilt2 | alex's clocks made a huge diff in performance also. |
| 04:25.41 | WisTilt2 | xirxes: yes, no dns it seems |
| 04:25.45 | arrrghhh | yea, i wonder what other treasures are in his kernel |
| 04:26.18 | XirXes_ | someone posted its ip earlier i think. il look and see |
| 04:26.31 | WisTilt2 | prox sensor:) i have it coded but need to put a use to it that's reasonable. |
| 04:26.47 | XirXes_ | http://87.238.52.168/ |
| 04:27.24 | WisTilt2 | nice! ok that works. let me pull bzo's stuff and make another kernel with that included. |
| 04:27.48 | XirXes_ | :) |
| 04:29.15 | XirXes_ | its a little quieter without oc but its still louder than what your discribing |
| 04:29.25 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh did bzo's patch push to gitorious? only one im seeing is the syntax error for kovosky panel |
| 04:30.55 | WisTilt2 | we lost arrrghhh... what day did that patch get committed? |
| 04:32.24 | XirXes_ | i have no idea |
| 04:33.22 | WisTilt2 | found it. |
| 04:34.38 | XirXes_ | hooray |
| 04:40.14 | XirXes_ | androids not running that bad without OC this time around |
| 04:41.45 | WisTilt2 | xirxes: im changing the minimum brightness also with this kernel so you can see if it's better in dark room. also looking into panel not coming on if its an easy fix. |
| 04:43.13 | XirXes_ | sweet. im excited |
| 04:49.00 | XirXes | hooray got my name back |
| 04:50.07 | XirXes | lol its taking some getting used to for the blinking sleep. i keep thinking i have a notification |
| 04:51.21 | WisTilt2 | just testing these changes on my phone so hang tight... |
| 04:52.22 | XirXes | kk |
| 04:53.02 | XirXes | do you use yourself as your home isp? |
| 04:53.20 | WisTilt2 | say what? |
| 04:53.42 | WisTilt2 | oh, you mean do i use my own companies service at home? |
| 04:53.50 | XirXes | yeah |
| 04:55.02 | WisTilt2 | lol. of course. when you own the company you get the goods. i have a dedicated 100mbps wireless link from our office to my home, 8miles. |
| 04:55.11 | XirXes | NICE |
| 04:55.29 | WisTilt2 | only net around 85mbps though but not complaining:) |
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| 04:57.34 | XirXes | i wouldnt complain either . i get around 15mbps through qwest |
| 04:57.41 | WisTilt2 | well all seems to be working like a charm. bzo's patch working since i now have sleep mode 1 and working without crashing np. still getting the panel init issue having to touch screen now and then so have to look at that tomorrow. |
| 04:58.49 | XirXes | whats your OC value? |
| 04:59.55 | WisTilt2 | 700. i just uploaded the revised kernel pack if you want to get it. same name as before. |
| 05:00.23 | WisTilt2 | let me know if the screen is better in dark lighting now. i raised it 8 levels. |
| 05:00.48 | XirXes | ok. booting windows now so i can install |
| 05:01.20 | WisTilt2 | strange thing is now i seem to be getting the init issue more often and having to touch screen to turn it on more. |
| 05:01.59 | XirXes | yeah, it was getting progressivly worse for me aswell |
| 05:02.45 | XirXes | when do you think your going to do the button led work? |
| 05:04.42 | WisTilt2 | button led is done but need to merge the kbd backlight into it. might commit just the buttons since kbd seems to be different on several devices. |
| 05:07.37 | XirXes | i put my oc line back and left sleep mode at 1. booting now |
| 05:08.50 | XirXes | i wont be able to test its life over night tho. killed my phone today. it need the charge |
| 05:08.54 | WisTilt2 | everything working beautifully here so far. i cant tell if screen dimmed all the way down is brighter, too much light in here right now with family wrapping gifts. |
| 05:10.14 | stinebd | no peeking! |
| 05:10.29 | WisTilt2 | hiya stinebd |
| 05:10.30 | XirXes | i actually had to reboot and try again. haret failed me. but the loading text is brighter. |
| 05:10.47 | stinebd | hi |
| 05:11.22 | WisTilt2 | nice job you and emwe did on getting right of that userland spam to autobl:) |
| 05:11.36 | stinebd | just emwe |
| 05:11.58 | stinebd | i wanted to make it spam more :( |
| 05:12.17 | WisTilt2 | lol. i thought i had done something in testing when i saw all that in dmesg |
| 05:12.24 | XirXes | definitly a better bightness. this is a good value |
| 05:12.45 | WisTilt2 | sure its low enough though? |
| 05:13.04 | WisTilt2 | thats 8 out of 256 |
| 05:13.15 | WisTilt2 | before it was actually 2 |
| 05:13.41 | XirXes | its not straining my eyes to look away from it and at my dark room. id say its good. |
| 05:14.09 | WisTilt2 | how dark is your room? in total darkness is that too bright? |
| 05:15.03 | XirXes | i just turned off my lcd and it could go a little darker. but i think the goal is to not make the image look dark |
| 05:15.30 | XirXes | but in complete darkness its a tiny bit too bright |
| 05:16.39 | WisTilt2 | so maybe 6 would be good. ill change that to try. going to look a bit more at this panel init issue for a few so standby. |
| 05:17.03 | XirXes | k |
| 05:22.21 | XirXes | SOD |
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| 05:26.50 | WisTilt2 | yo bzo |
| 05:27.03 | bzo | hey |
| 05:27.56 | WisTilt2 | just got your pll patch into my kernel and working perfect at mode 1 and 700mhz. cant wait to see battery drain with that and the panel code tonight. hoping for less than 1% per hour:) |
| 05:28.13 | bzo | nice |
| 05:29.04 | WisTilt2 | did you talk to pohket earlier today about what he and i discussed about the offsets and tasks? |
| 05:29.54 | stinebd | 1% per hour would beat my nexus one :P |
| 05:29.56 | bzo | I talked to him earlier, dunno if it covered what you're talking about |
| 05:30.24 | bzo | stinebd: lol, back to the raph for you |
| 05:30.53 | stinebd | no love for the raph, all this fancy stuff is for rhod :( |
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| 05:31.36 | WisTilt2 | task id's being wrong, some of them most likely. he swapped video and audiopp and audio still worked so i think there is part of the problem with vfetask. |
| 05:31.58 | bzo | stinebd: your raph is a 5225 amms right? If so, your camera probably works |
| 05:32.00 | WisTilt2 | man my english tonight really sucks |
| 05:32.10 | stinebd | i don't need no stinkin camera |
| 05:32.27 | stinebd | fix my bluetooth! |
| 05:32.43 | bzo | it's useful for teasing cameraless rhod users |
| 05:32.46 | XirXes | lol no |
| 05:32.51 | stinebd | hah |
| 05:32.53 | WisTilt2 | bzo: i got 1.8% drain last night with the new panel code so your pll fix should 1/2 that i'd think. |
| 05:33.17 | WisTilt2 | 1.8% per hour of course |
| 05:33.22 | stinebd | aww |
| 05:33.25 | stinebd | got my hopes up |
| 05:33.49 | XirXes | i had the same reaction when he was talking about it earlier |
| 05:33.55 | F22 | finally off the phone :P |
| 05:34.07 | bzo | stinebd: so I keep refreshing xdandroid.com for the imminent GBX01 release |
| 05:34.26 | stinebd | i think it'll be GRX01 |
| 05:34.38 | F22 | Oo |
| 05:34.46 | bzo | I'm going to put the check on a script every second because that will probably speed it up |
| 05:34.56 | XirXes | do you have a when in mind? |
| 05:35.15 | WisTilt2 | F22 can you put up this modified kernel pack? arrrghhh put up the initial one, this one has bzo's patch in it also and some additional autobl adjustments. |
| 05:35.19 | stinebd | bzo: that's okay, my server caches the bytecode |
| 05:35.34 | F22 | i don't care if it's GRX, GNX, GBX or FUX, I can't wait to get my hands on it. :D |
| 05:35.41 | bzo | WisTilt2: Jbruneaux has been doing some serious disassembly of the rhod dll, so hopefully we'll get to the bottom of it soon |
| 05:35.53 | F22 | WisTilt2: Ok, will do. |
| 05:36.05 | F22 | new link? or same as old one? |
| 05:36.26 | WisTilt2 | F22: same server but filename is wistilt2-kernel-pack.zip |
| 05:36.27 | stinebd | how long is glemsom gone for? |
| 05:36.31 | bzo | one of you rhod guys wanna help me extract some camera info from winmo? |
| 05:36.40 | XirXes | my phone went to sleep and i felt its temp dropping |
| 05:37.00 | WisTilt2 | xirxes: it will get real cold after 30mins or so. |
| 05:37.07 | F22 | i'm in winmo right now. |
| 05:37.10 | XirXes | bzo: i can help |
| 05:37.24 | XirXes | what would i need to do |
| 05:37.28 | bzo | cool, I have a modded camera dll that will provide extra logs, but can't get copied on my device |
| 05:37.40 | F22 | but if Xir wants to handle it, that's fine. i can put Wis's kernel up. |
| 05:38.04 | WisTilt2 | bzo: i talked quite awhile with jbruneaux yesterday about the tables. really need people like that on this for sure. |
| 05:38.06 | XirXes | if i cant replace the one in my rom ill cook one up with it in it |
| 05:38.32 | bzo | XirXes: pm me your email |
| 05:39.04 | bzo | anyone remember who was offering to donate a rhod? Jbruneaux is interested in deving on one |
| 05:40.03 | F22 | can't remember his name. arrrghhh might remember. |
| 05:40.17 | WisTilt2 | which device does he need? |
| 05:42.44 | bzo | any rhodium |
| 05:42.59 | WisTilt2 | he's gsm right? |
| 05:43.12 | bzo | yeah, he's in France I think |
| 05:43.21 | bzo | so any rhod will work |
| 05:43.46 | WisTilt2 | i'll buy another tilt2 and send him this one. i got a scratch right in the dead middle of the screen that really annoys me. |
| 05:44.50 | bzo | that's generous of you WisTilt2 |
| 05:45.19 | WisTilt2 | ive got his email so ill see if he's interested. good thing to do before end of year for us expense wise also:) |
| 05:45.20 | F22 | lol, i love that reasoning |
| 05:46.34 | bzo | besides if our time is worth anything, it's a bargain saving us dozens or hundreds of hours :) |
| 05:48.04 | WisTilt2 | that's for sure. |
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| 05:50.03 | WisTilt2 | 30mins in sleep and bat still at 87%, voltage only dropped 3mv. looking good so far |
| 05:50.36 | XirXes | yup, access denied to modify cif.dll in my phone. time to clean the dust off my rom kitchen |
| 05:50.49 | WisTilt2 | xirxes is panel coming up better now or still have to touch screen? |
| 05:51.00 | XirXes | still have to touch screen |
| 05:51.10 | WisTilt2 | often? |
| 05:51.15 | XirXes | fairly |
| 05:51.45 | bzo | wonder what's up with the security on cif.dll? Active sync won't even let me see it - only acknowledging its presence when denying permission to overwrite |
| 05:52.00 | WisTilt2 | panel is coming on because you can see backlight, its just the lock screen isnt displaying everytime. |
| 05:52.02 | F22 | your file of 8.69mb exceeds the forum's limit of 8.00MB. Ok, so much for directly attaching to my post. time for mediafire again. |
| 05:52.46 | bzo | the libs need to be stripped |
| 05:52.49 | XirXes | i couldnt even see it after setting show all files on the built in explorer. only saw it when trying to replace |
| 05:52.54 | WisTilt2 | hmm... stinebd whats the command to strip the files from the module tarball? |
| 05:53.01 | stinebd | strip |
| 05:53.09 | WisTilt2 | syntax plz |
| 05:53.26 | bzo | I think you have to use a special arm one, lemme look at my script |
| 05:53.36 | WisTilt2 | hang on F22 on that upload |
| 05:53.49 | F22 | ? |
| 05:53.58 | XirXes | already found it in my kitchen, but its a module. explaining why we cant touch it. ill need to convert the dll to a module in order to have it work right |
| 05:54.04 | bzo | arm-none-linux-gnueabi-strip --strip-debug *ko |
| 05:54.05 | stinebd | strip *.ko |
| 05:54.08 | WisTilt2 | we'll make is smaller. should be around 2mb |
| 05:54.16 | F22 | heh. ok |
| 05:54.17 | stinebd | heh |
| 05:54.40 | WisTilt2 | really thats it? that wont remove all .ko's? |
| 05:54.40 | XirXes | then you wont have to call the modules file dirty |
| 05:55.00 | bzo | nah, they'll still be dirty |
| 05:55.03 | stinebd | the dirty thing is for git (uncommitted changes in your local repository) |
| 05:55.08 | F22 | yup |
| 05:55.12 | XirXes | oh i see |
| 05:55.28 | bzo | WisTilt2: that command will just strip em |
| 05:55.56 | WisTilt2 | we need to keep bcm4329.ko thought for wifi dont we> |
| 05:56.01 | WisTilt2 | though |
| 05:56.10 | WisTilt2 | man i cant type at all tonight |
| 05:56.17 | stinebd | strip just removes debugging symbols from the modules |
| 05:58.19 | bzo | Xirxes: for some reason I thought you could copy over module files using total commander, but it didn't work |
| 05:59.02 | bzo | could of sworn I've done that before where your copy is used, but if you ever deleted it, the module version would come back |
| 05:59.41 | F22 | stripping modules is something i've become intimately familiar with since i started posting kernels two weeks ago. i can strip them for you if you want Wis. |
| 06:00.35 | stinebd | i prefer my modules fully clothed |
| 06:00.41 | F22 | lol |
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| 06:01.00 | bzo | at least not intimate |
| 06:01.26 | F22 | rough crowd |
| 06:01.27 | F22 | lol |
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| 06:06.05 | WisTilt2 | keep getting unrecognized format |
| 06:06.05 | XirXes | ok i made it into a module so now i just have to cook the rom and install it |
| 06:07.28 | WisTilt2 | F22: yes if you can do it fire away. dont know why strip doesnt know the format of these files |
| 06:10.05 | XirXes | this is the first time iv cooked on my i7 and its going so much faster than it used too |
| 06:10.46 | F22 | WisTilt2: Ok, will do. I've gotten the error you're getting before, but i can't for the life of me remember what caused it. |
| 06:11.25 | bzo | XirXes: know how to dump the wince log? |
| 06:11.35 | XirXes | nope |
| 06:12.10 | bzo | ok, so once you get up and running, launch the camera and take a picture and exit the camera app |
| 06:12.24 | F22 | WisTilt2: I'm tempted to say that it's because you're calling the right version of strip. |
| 06:12.27 | bzo | then use a temporary startup.txt with haret with the contents: |
| 06:12.35 | bzo | pwf wince.txt 0x16a00000 0xFFFF0 |
| 06:12.36 | F22 | WisTilt2: er NOT calling |
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| 06:13.01 | XirXes | sounds easy enough |
| 06:13.20 | WisTilt2 | F22: this is the version GNU strip version 2.19.51.0.14-37.fc12 20090722 |
| 06:13.32 | bzo | yeah, the hard part is getting the dll in there |
| 06:14.05 | stinebd | WisTilt2: need the right CHOST (arm-none-linux-gnueabi-strip) |
| 06:14.06 | F22 | fedora core? not the arm version? |
| 06:14.19 | F22 | you need to use the version that came with the toolchain |
| 06:14.46 | WisTilt2 | ah. |
| 06:15.36 | XirXes | im hoping it converted to a module properly. it can be iffy sometimes. the only way to test it tho is to cook it and use it |
| 06:17.44 | F22 | WisTilt2: btw, linux-msm has a INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 option that you can either set in the makefile or just export in. it will automatically strip them during modules_install |
| 06:18.49 | WisTilt2 | i like the automatic solution |
| 06:19.20 | XirXes | damn. error at the end of cooking. have to try again |
| 06:19.49 | WisTilt2 | when you put that up make sure people know its for rhod only. dont need non-rhod users saying their phone was bricked. |
| 06:20.03 | F22 | that dangerous? |
| 06:20.09 | F22 | lol |
| 06:20.51 | WisTilt2 | dont know what could happen on non-rhod with all these inits to the hardware. |
| 06:21.25 | F22 | hmm, ok. i will put up a very prominent warning to go along with it. |
| 06:21.37 | WisTilt2 | one cmd could mean wipe flash on those devices, kind of like clearing microp as i did on my phone. |
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| 06:22.38 | F22 | ow, i remember reading that log. and most of these puppies would be lost. don't want to deal with that. |
| 06:24.02 | WisTilt2 | well, 1hr in sleep and still 87% battery. dropped 7mv |
| 06:24.43 | bzo | wow less than 1%? |
| 06:24.55 | WisTilt2 | is that what that works out to? |
| 06:25.05 | WisTilt2 | very nice |
| 06:25.16 | bzo | didn't you say 87% an hour ago? |
| 06:25.31 | WisTilt2 | yep still 87%, just watching mv reading to see any drop |
| 06:25.54 | WisTilt2 | phone is stone cold also |
| 06:26.11 | WisTilt2 | and i only have 1 sig bar where i have it sitting |
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| 06:27.11 | bzo | in theory the phone can standby for weeks, or so dzo said that was what the vogue is capable of (with radio off I assume) |
| 06:28.36 | WisTilt2 | best i've ever seen before panel init and your code was about 3% per hour over a long period in total sleep so this is definitely much better. |
| 06:29.15 | WisTilt2 | if we can get close to 2 days with occasional use that would be very nice |
| 06:31.44 | XirXes | my kitchens bad i guess. rebuilding it from scratch. should have something in the next hour |
| 06:31.51 | XirXes | hopefully sooner |
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| 06:33.03 | bzo | XirXes: thanks for the effort. Who knew this was going to be such a pain? |
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| 06:33.53 | XirXes | np. i just want to help this project however im capable. and for this the ball happens to be in my court. |
| 06:33.58 | F22 | down from 18332 to 932, wow, that's quite a bit smaller than usual. haven't even gzipped it up yet. the start size was pretty typical however. odd. |
| 06:34.20 | XirXes | tho knowing how wm is built makes me want to get rid of it even more |
| 06:35.02 | F22 | of course, i haven't really looked at the results since i started using the latest toolchain. |
| 06:36.37 | F22 | wistilt2: which version of the toolchain did you use to build your kernel? |
| 06:37.12 | WisTilt2 | arm-eabi-4.4.0 |
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| 06:48.01 | XirXes | building a new kitchen went alot faster than i expected. cooking now |
| 06:50.31 | XirXes | holy shit that was fast. new ervius kitchen is awesome. flashing now |
| 06:52.56 | WisTilt2 | bzo: 86% and dropped total 10mv in 1.5hrs |
| 06:55.12 | bzo | WisTilt2: I assume you don't have auto data updates enabled? like gmail, etc. |
| 06:56.20 | WisTilt2 | auto sync to gmail is off and not checking email at all. only thing i have running is clocksync app every 30mins. |
| 06:58.19 | XirXes | god stock wm roms take forever to do there first boot |
| 06:59.28 | WisTilt2 | everything microsoft takes forever:) but when you're always in beta what can you say. |
| 07:00.26 | XirXes | lol |
| 07:02.47 | XirXes | i ran it but i just got gibberish in wince.txt |
| 07:03.11 | bzo | hmm, the whole file? |
| 07:03.19 | XirXes | yeah |
| 07:03.41 | bzo | what model rhod? |
| 07:03.46 | XirXes | 210 |
| 07:04.29 | XirXes | and my rom is a stock t-mobile rom with the new modules |
| 07:04.32 | bzo | hmm, lemme double check the offset |
| 07:04.36 | XirXes | *module |
| 07:06.16 | bzo | can you try 0x17200000? |
| 07:06.23 | bzo | the other one may be only for cdma rhods |
| 07:07.44 | XirXes | different gibberish |
| 07:08.29 | XirXes | and an error saying short write detected while writing to file |
| 07:08.45 | bzo | damn, lemme do some more digging around |
| 07:08.49 | XirXes | k |
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| 07:13.58 | F22 | WisTilt2: Should I tell testers to look for or at anything in particular? battery life? speakerphone volume? did you say this improves both of those? |
| 07:15.30 | WisTilt2 | yes mainly those 2. also note that problem with panel not fully turning on and having to touch the screen to turn it on. battery life is the main thing im hoping to get info on. |
| 07:15.57 | WisTilt2 | and they need to change sleep mode to 1 now if oc'd to take advantage of bzo's patch. |
| 07:16.17 | WisTilt2 | i guess mode 1 either way |
| 07:16.34 | F22 | WisTilt2: btw, i'm going to put up both versions of the test package. i'm a bit concerned about the resulting modules*.tar.gz after i stripped the modules with a different toolchain's strip. it's half the usual size. so i'm going to tell them to try the fatter unstripped version if wifi doesn't work with the stripped one. |
| 07:17.02 | bzo | XirXes: try 0x16f00000, that is for the gsm topaz |
| 07:17.44 | F22 | theoretically they should be interoperable. but looking at the resulting file size, i don't know. |
| 07:18.11 | WisTilt2 | ok sounds good. if people could detail any issues that would be helpful, like conditions that caused a repeatable issue etc. |
| 07:18.46 | F22 | ok, will mention that |
| 07:19.34 | XirXes | looks like logs to me |
| 07:19.52 | bzo | cool :) |
| 07:20.03 | XirXes | ill take another picture then redo it and pastebin |
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| 07:20.18 | WisTilt2 | bzo: very consistent 3mv drop per 30mins. this is very impressive. im going to bed guys. catch ya'll tomorrow. |
| 07:20.32 | bzo | gn |
| 07:20.33 | XirXes | nite |
| 07:24.23 | XirXes | http://pastebin.com/dsFg3Zyi |
| 07:25.03 | XirXes | there was like a line of garbage at the start that pastebin wouldnt let me put in there |
| 07:25.58 | bzo | thanks a bunch! should be useful |
| 07:26.26 | XirXes | you weren't kidding, that log is SPAMMED with camera stuff |
| 07:27.05 | bzo | sheesh, haven't they heard of timestamps? |
| 07:27.23 | XirXes | im gunna flash back. ill keep this rom around tho |
| 07:27.34 | bzo | it's a rotating log, so the beginning is probably in the middle somewhere |
| 07:27.52 | XirXes | odd |
| 07:29.50 | F22 | WisTilt2: your new kernel has been posted to xda. |
| 07:30.01 | bzo | have you flashed back yet? If not might have to bother you to run it again |
| 07:30.29 | F22 | WisTilt2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10055745#post10055745 |
| 07:30.56 | XirXes | not yet. should i take another pic before I run it or not |
| 07:31.15 | bzo | we're missing the power on, so the massive spamming probably overwrote it |
| 07:31.28 | bzo | can you reboot, use the camera, then dump log? |
| 07:31.33 | XirXes | yup |
| 07:32.57 | bzo | and let's make the size 0x100000 too |
| 07:33.37 | bzo | instead of 0xFFFF0 |
| 07:37.41 | F22 | now, hopefully it's clearly enough that these kernels are rhod only. |
| 07:37.49 | XirXes | http://pastebin.com/2wG3QtTF |
| 07:39.17 | XirXes | might need to go bigger |
| 07:40.11 | bzo | I see the power on, so should be good enough for now |
| 07:40.16 | F22 | i've gone back and made the word WARNING bold, and added Rhodium Only several times in bold too. |
| 07:40.22 | bzo | thanks XirXes |
| 07:40.26 | XirXes | np |
| 07:40.53 | F22 | so how did the testing go? |
| 07:41.20 | XirXes | im just glad its not a pita for me to get my phone set back up the way i had it. yay xdauc |
| 07:41.39 | F22 | xdauc? |
| 07:42.40 | XirXes | user customization. on the first boot with a compatible wm rom it checks a folder on the sd card for scripts and regs and cabs |
| 07:42.51 | XirXes | mine completly set up. |
| 07:43.37 | XirXes | my rom will be back the way i like it in less time it takes the stock rom to do its first boot |
| 07:44.27 | F22 | you flashed? |
| 07:45.01 | XirXes | i had to build a rom to use the .dll bzo gave me |
| 07:45.35 | XirXes | i couldnt replace the file in a live system cause its a kernel module |
| 07:45.58 | F22 | ah |
| 07:46.20 | XirXes | have you tested wistilt2s kernel yet |
| 07:46.27 | F22 | i haven't played with wm rom's, i'm still running stock 6.5. |
| 07:47.16 | F22 | lol, too busy futzing with getting it up. the resulting module file size left me scratching my head. haven't tried it yet. |
| 07:47.47 | XirXes | ah. this is the longest ive ran the stock rom on this hardware. my first tp2 had its stock rom for a full 1/2 hour |
| 07:48.15 | XirXes | and i was cooking roms for the phone i had before it |
| 07:49.27 | XirXes | when you do i was having static issues with the speakerphone. it would be good to see if other 210s have the issue |
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| 07:50.03 | F22 | i don't do much from win mo. i only went into it today because i couldn't seem to make a call after switching to the 1245 kernel. not sure if it's that kernel's fault or something else. i don't make calls that often from this phone and there have been lots of new kernels of late. plus, arrrghhh reports that calling in general is flaky in android. |
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| 07:50.43 | XirXes | i agree with arrrghhh on that. but i dont call much either |
| 07:51.40 | F22 | yep, so it may not be a new but at all, i may just have gotten bitten by an old bug that i hadn't experienced before due to the infrequency of my calling. |
| 07:51.49 | XirXes | so do you just have gen.y set up? |
| 07:51.55 | F22 | nope |
| 07:53.00 | F22 | do you? and if so, what do you think of it? |
| 07:54.25 | F22 | if it works well i might consider playing with nand. |
| 07:54.32 | XirXes | i do. and i like it. as soon as the boot anim is over its there. i have it set to autoboot wm but if i want to boot to android right away i can tap it and itl start it right then |
| 07:54.47 | XirXes | no waiting for wm to get its shit togeather |
| 07:55.24 | F22 | oh, hmm...it requires working wm to work? |
| 07:55.54 | F22 | so it basically just allows you to go into android very early in the boot process via haret. |
| 07:56.00 | XirXes | yeah its just an app that is set to run really early in wms boot |
| 07:56.07 | XirXes | yup |
| 07:56.27 | F22 | ok, so no cooperating with nand. that's still an either or prospect unless you like flashing all the time. |
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| 07:57.54 | F22 | how much time does gen.y shave off a reboot back into xdandroid? |
| 07:57.56 | XirXes | im just not ready to kill wm on my device just yet. its still miles more stable than android. plus im comfy in it |
| 07:58.13 | XirXes | at least a minute, maybe 2 |
| 07:58.42 | F22 | give me stable phone calls, camera, headset and bt...then i'll go nand. :D |
| 07:59.19 | XirXes | headset and keyboard bl and id be happy dropping wm |
| 07:59.42 | XirXes | reliable media wouldnt hurt |
| 08:00.06 | F22 | what's unreliable about media? |
| 08:00.46 | XirXes | on my device plenty. i have a wierd track skipping issue and youtube works horibly for me |
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| 08:01.24 | F22 | i have a "track skipping" issue with pandora. i suspect it may be related to system_server running amok issue, but am not entirely certain on that one. |
| 08:01.50 | F22 | i've noticed that some boot-ups it's more of a problem than others. |
| 08:02.08 | bzo | do you get a dma miss in your dmesg? |
| 08:02.32 | XirXes | mine does it with music on the sd card. i think it may be because its not able to send the music to the dsp fast enough from the sd |
| 08:02.46 | XirXes | idk. ill look at it in a few. |
| 08:03.24 | XirXes | i figure its cause my cards a class 2 and im running an os on it while trying to listen to music |
| 08:03.25 | F22 | it's been so long since i looked at it i don't recall. i've had so many other things on my plate that it's never quite made it back to the top. |
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| 08:03.53 | bzo | F22 are you on a gsm rhod? |
| 08:03.55 | F22 | mine is a class 6. just bought a class 10. haven't installed android on the 10 yet. |
| 08:04.09 | F22 | BZO: yes, i have a 210 just like Xirx. |
| 08:04.11 | XirXes | 10??! |
| 08:04.36 | bzo | a fix may be coming your way then |
| 08:04.44 | F22 | yep, got it on sale at new egg for ~$20. |
| 08:04.52 | XirXes | nice. how big |
| 08:04.53 | F22 | 8 GB |
| 08:05.03 | F22 | patriot |
| 08:05.05 | bzo | I think Pohket found a dsp misconfiguration that seems to only affect the 210 |
| 08:05.23 | XirXes | i have a 4GB that i bought at walmart like 2 years ago |
| 08:05.29 | F22 | bzo: fix for which issue? |
| 08:05.35 | bzo | sound |
| 08:05.39 | XirXes | nice |
| 08:05.42 | F22 | ahh, great :) |
| 08:06.18 | F22 | that's interesting, why does the 210 get singled out? |
| 08:06.30 | XirXes | cause its weird |
| 08:06.37 | F22 | the 100's are usually the oddballs... |
| 08:06.48 | bzo | probably the 100 too |
| 08:07.07 | bzo | it's the rhod400/500 that seem resilient to this misconfiguration |
| 08:07.28 | XirXes | its cause they fixed there design flaws by then |
| 08:07.44 | XirXes | the 210 was the first one to hit america |
| 08:07.56 | F22 | yes, like the missing 3.5mm jack...damn them cdma's... |
| 08:08.09 | XirXes | those asshole |
| 08:08.13 | XirXes | s |
| 08:08.16 | F22 | 300 was the last, but still was missing the jack. |
| 08:08.32 | F22 | but i guess they fixed the sound issue for it. |
| 08:08.52 | bzo | I like how they advertised the 3.5mm as a huge feature, rather than a bug fix |
| 08:09.31 | F22 | that's marketing for you |
| 08:10.29 | F22 | 300 got ptt which is annoying on a dumb phone when you accidentally hit, but it will make a really nice camera button for at&t users once its working... |
| 08:11.23 | F22 | we 210'ers got screwed. |
| 08:12.37 | XirXes | i do like the color of mine compared to other models. im not jealous of the tacky chrome rings |
| 08:13.11 | F22 | me too. some people pan the "mocha" color. i like it, i think it has class. |
| 08:13.51 | XirXes | agrees |
| 08:14.21 | F22 | if we could only swap out the tired old 7200A for a 8255... |
| 08:14.58 | XirXes | do want |
| 08:15.10 | F22 | everything else about the rhod is still competitive. |
| 08:15.21 | F22 | and that keyboard still can't be beat. |
| 08:15.42 | XirXes | definitly, i have yet to find any other phone that has a speaker this good |
| 08:15.53 | XirXes | the screens amazing |
| 08:16.14 | F22 | agreed. damn good speakerphone, better than any other i tried. |
| 08:16.18 | XirXes | battery life is awesome |
| 08:17.08 | F22 | screen is a match for what's out there today. maybe a little less bright than a samoled, but i can live with that. |
| 08:18.01 | XirXes | i can read mine just fine in direct sunlight. not that i experiance that often |
| 08:18.27 | F22 | lol, same here |
| 08:18.58 | F22 | i'm in no rush to replace, i'll wait at least until honeycomb. |
| 08:19.43 | XirXes | and i dont like the redness of amoled. and i absolutly hate pentile matrix. rgb for me please |
| 08:20.24 | F22 | not crazy about pentile either, text is blurrier, and text is hard enough to read on a 3.6" screen.. |
| 08:20.25 | XirXes | pentile matrix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656128 |
| 08:20.58 | XirXes | exactly. it robs sharpness for a marginal power saving |
| 08:21.20 | XirXes | and im pretty sure samoled uses it |
| 08:24.40 | F22 | yes, although most of the issues are supposed to be reduced. |
| 08:24.54 | F22 | haven't heard the reduction in sharpness being reduced however. |
| 08:26.08 | XirXes | yeah i dont worry so much about the color aprox. that thread talks about but the sharpness bothers me deaply |
| 08:27.23 | XirXes | i really like working ctrl in terminal. ty |
| 08:27.49 | F22 | you're most welcome. |
| 08:28.53 | F22 | i need to get back documenting all my changes on the various handsets so i can commit that stuff. i really should have created an .xls file from the beginning. |
| 08:30.15 | F22 | with 9 different rhodium keymap/layout combos in our repo, it gets confusing when they differ. |
| 08:30.25 | XirXes | i bet |
| 08:31.50 | F22 | i also want to look into making the buttons adjustable via sysfs from settings within android...but that can wait for the moment. |
| 08:32.05 | XirXes | that would be neat |
| 08:33.04 | XirXes | yup i have the dma missed in my dmesg |
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| 08:33.33 | Markinus | hi |
| 08:33.38 | XirXes | hi |
| 08:33.45 | F22 | hey there |
| 08:34.52 | manusfreedom | hi |
| 08:35.22 | bzo | time to hit the sack guys, gn (and good morning to you Markinus) |
| 08:35.34 | F22 | g'nite bzo |
| 08:35.34 | XirXes | nite |
| 08:37.43 | XirXes | i think im gunna get off too. just about mah bedtime |
| 08:37.52 | F22 | me too |
| 08:38.01 | XirXes | nite |
| 08:38.02 | F22 | have a good night |
| 08:38.04 | manusfreedom | gn |
| 08:38.06 | Markinus | nite |
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| 09:00.44 | noobhands | Markinus: Cotulla's been looking for you recently |
| 09:02.10 | noobhands | i dunno if you two caught up or not :D |
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| 09:04.37 | Curious_ | Markinus, hi |
| 09:05.04 | Curious_ | the proximity driver seems to suck |
| 09:05.11 | Curious_ | for leo* |
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| 09:06.46 | Markinus | yeah, I was some days in the sone |
| 09:07.14 | noobhands | sun?! where?! |
| 09:07.20 | Markinus | *sun |
| 09:07.44 | noobhands | it's ok,i know a little german to know what you meant :D |
| 09:07.54 | Markinus | canarian islands |
| 09:08.01 | Markinus | heh :) |
| 09:08.15 | noobhands | nice, how was the weather? one of the guys here has gone there too |
| 09:08.23 | noobhands | for xmas/new years |
| 09:08.38 | Markinus | 25 - 27 °C there, very nice |
| 09:09.15 | Markinus | now back. Herte it'S terrbile, snow without end |
| 09:09.19 | Markinus | *Here |
| 09:09.36 | Markinus | *terrible |
| 09:09.46 | noobhands | :) |
| 09:09.52 | noobhands | our snow stopped, we just have ice |
| 09:10.04 | noobhands | i nearly slipped like 3 times in the car park... holding onto my personal laptop for dear life |
| 09:10.19 | noobhands | where abouts in Germany are you from? |
| 09:10.39 | Markinus | in the middle |
| 09:10.53 | Markinus | göttingen |
| 09:11.02 | noobhands | cool |
| 09:11.04 | noobhands | i dunno it |
| 09:11.38 | noobhands | i've only been to Bavaria/Koln/Munich |
| 09:11.45 | Markinus | we have snow and ice, the travel from airport to home was very hard. Snow and frozen rain . . |
| 09:12.00 | noobhands | nice welcome back |
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| 11:27.28 | _RadioHead | hi anyone who have htc touch diamond p3700 and installed linux inside? |
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| 14:11.35 | JohnSheridan | hey |
| 14:11.39 | JohnSheridan | ~Markinus |
| 14:11.42 | JohnSheridan | ~seen Markinus |
| 14:11.49 | apt | markinus is currently on #htc-linux (5h 38m 22s). Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 5h 4s, last said: 'we have snow and ice, the travel from airport to home was very hard. Snow and frozen rain . .'. |
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| 14:18.50 | _RadioHead | apt: can i install linux on htc diamond |
| 14:18.50 | _RadioHead | ? |
| 14:18.58 | _RadioHead | it is wm .61 based os |
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| 14:33.34 | Markinus | bye and nice christmas for everyone! |
| 14:34.00 | arrrghhh | _RadioHead: that's a bot you're trying to reason with. |
| 14:34.08 | arrrghhh | come to #xdandroid, we can try to help you. |
| 14:34.32 | _RadioHead | arrrghhh: i am there |
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| 15:28.34 | Sharky^ger | i wish you a merry xmas ! goodbye |
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| 15:50.01 | nooob | onceagain theres too many roms flying about lol |
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| 19:13.40 | gauner1986 | and merry christmas |
| 19:13.48 | MN_ | to you to :) |
| 19:13.57 | gauner1986 | thanks |
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| 22:41.39 | warrenb213 | hey folks |
| 22:41.48 | warrenb213 | i'm getting my new linux vm setup |
| 22:42.37 | warrenb213 | is there any chance in a bit somebody could help me get all set up to compile hd2 kernels? |
| 22:43.13 | warrenb213 | i'm not sure what all i should do to the box ahead of time, and last time i followed the android dev site instructions things ended up acting wierd |
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| 23:09.03 | Shatterv2 | warrenb213 |
| 23:09.09 | warrenb213 | heya |
| 23:09.10 | warrenb213 | :) |
| 23:09.13 | dcordes | hi |
| 23:09.13 | Shatterv2 | You used to compling? |
| 23:09.18 | Shatterv2 | hi |
| 23:09.36 | dcordes | Shatterv2: yes |
| 23:09.41 | warrenb213 | i'm not gonna lie, i'm tier 1 tech support capable on linux. i'm by education a windows server admin |
| 23:09.44 | warrenb213 | lol |
| 23:09.57 | dcordes | warrenb213: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=QuickDeveloperStartGuide#Kernel |
| 23:10.00 | warrenb213 | so while i know stuff, i don't. :) |
| 23:10.13 | dcordes | check this out if you have any questions don't hesitate |
| 23:11.19 | warrenb213 | i'm reading that dcordes, that's assuming i have eclipse, the sdk, java 1.6, the eclipse plugin installed yea? |
| 23:12.32 | dcordes | no for the linux kernel you don't need any of that stuff |
| 23:12.54 | warrenb213 | word :) |
| 23:13.03 | warrenb213 | so the other stuff is for when i want to make a rom |
| 23:13.08 | warrenb213 | or "build" rather |
| 23:13.41 | dcordes | if that rom is supposed to be android based, maybe |
| 23:14.10 | warrenb213 | ok |
| 23:14.28 | warrenb213 | thanks. i'm gonna see about cloning hastarin's kernel as a start |
| 23:17.34 | warrenb213 | and should i use this sourcery g++ toolchain i've seen mentioned? does it have down sides compared to the stock google toolchains? i seen darkstone suggest someone use this instead Sourcery G++ Lite 2010q1-202 for ARM GNU/Linux |
| 23:18.00 | dcordes | right. replace the clone address with the one pointing to your kernel source code repository of interest |
| 23:18.26 | dcordes | oh that's some myth I think |
| 23:18.44 | dcordes | when we were fucking around with how to start linux on that device, we had to suspect everything |
| 23:18.59 | warrenb213 | ok so stock toolchain should be fine? |
| 23:19.04 | warrenb213 | or google toolchains rather |
| 23:19.09 | dcordes | so also toolchain was discussed |
| 23:19.24 | dcordes | you will be fine with either of the mebntioned |
| 23:19.53 | warrenb213 | ok nice. ;) seen u on the forums, never chatted with you. kinda feel priveledged a legend around here giving me the time of day hahahah |
| 23:21.21 | warrenb213 | the reason i want to dive into the kernel stuff is because i want to see about compiling a version with the GAN transport stuff |
| 23:21.41 | warrenb213 | in an attempt to port the wifi calling to the hd2. it's on other 2.6.32 linux kernel builds now |
| 23:22.10 | warrenb213 | due to the version diff though i can't insmod the module another compiled from 2.6.32 ya know? |
| 23:22.12 | dcordes | ouf |
| 23:22.18 | dcordes | GAN transport ? |
| 23:22.23 | dcordes | wifi calling ? |
| 23:22.27 | warrenb213 | yea, for the kineto interface |
| 23:22.33 | dcordes | kineto interface ? |
| 23:23.07 | warrenb213 | the wifi calling for tmobile as offered on the latest OTA updates for the top end android phones |
| 23:23.13 | warrenb213 | it's through kineto |
| 23:23.28 | dcordes | omfg |
| 23:23.53 | warrenb213 | i have the apk and all, but in some cases it's backend has been implemented on the kernel, and others as a kernel module |
| 23:23.58 | dcordes | I never started android on the hd2 |
| 23:24.34 | dcordes | I'm not a friend of the non standard kernel depencies of all the android stuff |
| 23:24.38 | dcordes | nothing but headaches |
| 23:24.53 | warrenb213 | yea as i'm realizing |
| 23:25.05 | warrenb213 | it seems to be extremely fragmented accross the board |
| 23:25.34 | dcordes | blablabla we need to port 2.7.84 to htc snickers because goolge decided to implement some unneeded bs that depends heavily on that version for no reason |
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| 23:25.50 | dcordes | yes |
| 23:26.28 | warrenb213 | yea wtf is up with htc spanning 3 or 4 revisions of linux, without bringing the other androids to the same |
| 23:26.50 | warrenb213 | makes it hard for the community to truly be an ANDROID community |
| 23:26.50 | Aevum | im starting to get pissed off at HTC |
| 23:26.53 | Aevum | using crap qualcomms |
| 23:27.29 | warrenb213 | lol |
| 23:27.44 | warrenb213 | wellllll, at least we don't have the epic design fail of iphone 4 |
| 23:27.46 | dcordes | in a perfect world manufacturers would add the devices in mainline kernel and userspace developers would fucking live with what is available |
| 23:28.40 | dcordes | that's true iPhone is worst quality. I've been using my htc kaiser for 2 months now. I have it since the release and it's still up to best health |
| 23:28.51 | dcordes | despite numerous drops and heavy usage |
| 23:29.03 | dcordes | htc hw is surpreme |
| 23:29.04 | warrenb213 | hahaha dcordes, that's what i'm talking about. there needs to be a line to which manufacturers need to set things in stone |
| 23:29.52 | dcordes | the kaiser IS a stone |
| 23:30.07 | dcordes | I noticed it grew abit old fashioned though |
| 23:30.09 | warrenb213 | honestly this hd2 was my first intro to the smart phone world. around my office i've seen evo 4g's dropping like flies with minor falls |
| 23:30.20 | warrenb213 | iphone 4 users hating basement reception |
| 23:30.22 | dcordes | 'uh what's that thick phone you have there' |
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| 23:30.46 | dcordes | -'yes it's a bit large bnut it's real good phone.' |
| 23:31.06 | warrenb213 | hell, i've had to replace my hd2 ONCE. and that was after it flew off my cars roof @ 50mph. bounced down the road, shattered, still worked perfect. lol |
| 23:31.20 | dcordes | that's interesting |
| 23:31.35 | warrenb213 | yea it was cool, over at crater lake oregon |
| 23:32.00 | warrenb213 | sucked my phone took the fall, but great to see how mine faired to evo's after falls a fraction the size hahaha |
| 23:33.13 | warrenb213 | i just hate lugging this thing in and out of my pocket. it's always in there with a pack of smokes and sitting down, jesus looks like i'm playing pocket pool or wrestling something in my pocket |
| 23:33.15 | warrenb213 | hahaha |
| 23:34.34 | dcordes | they could have smoothened out the corners more |
| 23:34.46 | dcordes | for eased gliding :D |
| 23:34.51 | warrenb213 | true. hahaha |
| 23:35.06 | warrenb213 | ok so is there a suggested directory style i should set up |
| 23:35.13 | warrenb213 | which will make this easier over the long term |
| 23:35.24 | warrenb213 | like should i set a directory called clonedgits |
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| 23:41.22 | dcordes | but huh |
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