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01:07.14Curious_NetRipper what is the toolchain that you use in autobuild for leo?
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02:31.09StefanRaabgood morning
02:33.16StefanRaabhey darkstone only wanted to ask if I should stay up another 30 minutes or not, I mean are you already uploading the new ram build?? =D
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03:04.31darkstonehey StefanRaab
03:04.35darkstoneyep im uploading now
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08:37.19mohsen_please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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11:25.47NetRipper02:07:14 < Curious_> NetRipper what is the toolchain that you use in autobuild for leo?
11:26.01NetRippergoogle-prebuilt.git/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.4.0/bin/arm-eabi-*
11:26.10NetRipperfrom the google prebuilt git repository
11:26.36NetRipper(git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/prebuilt.git)
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12:59.29VeldmuusHi all :)
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13:00.23Kensandcordes: ping
13:00.42Kensandcordes: I still have a G1 somewhere.
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13:39.13b-maximenkoIs detection of car kit (HTC CU S400) fully implemented yet?
13:40.33b-maximenkoI have no NaviPanel in my build and I cannot check myself. When I connect it, only "USB debugging mode" is shown in status bar
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13:42.58b-maximenko...and Tasker's state "docked in car" doesn't switch. I ask because I'm interested whether it will be supported in future or it is a final state of things.
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15:43.26JohnSheridan~seen Markinus
15:43.30aptmarkinus <~Miranda@212.255.38.148> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 5d 16h 56m 6s ago, saying: 'did someone know the kernel dependencies to activate memory with holes layout or DISCONTIGMEM? it set it always back to flat . .behh'.
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16:06.15MN2hey
16:06.22gauner1986hi guys
16:07.53mdeejayhi
16:08.50MN2the proximity sensor light flashing problem is kernel related right?
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16:10.55Alex[sp3dev]GNUtoo|laptop: hello
16:11.07GNUtoo|laptophi
16:11.26Alex[sp3dev]so, are you still living with xorg shutdown crashing kernel?
16:11.35GNUtoo|laptopnot at all
16:11.46Alex[sp3dev]what have you done?
16:11.55GNUtoo|laptoprebased the kernel changes
16:13.34Alex[sp3dev]which ones and against what? i have added your changes for the refresh thread and fb blanking to my 2.6.35 display driver. the xorg now works.. but everything dies on exit
16:18.28Alex[sp3dev]GNUtoo|laptop: the msm_fb.c in android-2.6.32-rebase doesn't have fb blanking at all. or do i need some other branch?
16:18.56GNUtoo|laptoplet me look
16:19.25GNUtoo|laptopwe use that: android-msm-2.6.32-rebase
16:19.28Alex[sp3dev]anyway, i don't like the whole stuff with suspend/resume. because mutices are locked in one function and unlocked in another which may very well be the reason
16:19.35GNUtoo|laptopat revision 013075354e0b533991650ec756605ad4731e6a0c
16:20.25Alex[sp3dev]yes, and there is no unblank ioctl. is it needed at all?
16:21.50GNUtoo|laptopit's not great not to have it
16:21.54GNUtoo|laptopbut you can live with it
16:22.11GNUtoo|laptopalso we don't have the framebuffer console
16:22.15GNUtoo|laptopif I remember well
16:22.21Alex[sp3dev]why don't you?
16:22.22GNUtoo|laptopthat's what caused xorg crash on exit
16:22.29Alex[sp3dev]jeez
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16:23.02Alex[sp3dev]ok.. will try without fb blanking.
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16:26.32GNUtoo|laptopAlex[sp3dev], basically I'll explain
16:26.38GNUtoo|laptopI'm not a good kernel hacker
16:26.43GNUtoo|laptopI'm a kernel newbie
16:26.55GNUtoo|laptopI was asked to add .fbioblank
16:27.04GNUtoo|laptopso I tried
16:27.07GNUtoo|laptopand failed
16:27.14GNUtoo|laptopit crashed the display on resume
16:27.18GNUtoo|laptopand such things
16:27.23GNUtoo|laptopso when I rebased
16:27.31GNUtoo|laptopI didn't import the patch
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16:28.07Alex[sp3dev]i don't quite like the fact that blanking calls suspend. maybe it would be enough to just kill the update thread and blank the panel?
16:28.37GNUtoo|laptopI was speaking in #oe
16:28.44GNUtoo|laptopreading
16:29.05GNUtoo|laptopyes maybe
16:29.20GNUtoo|laptopdo you want commit access to our kernel?
16:29.39Alex[sp3dev]not at all. i'll just send you the patches.. since i don't have dream
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16:30.16GNUtoo|laptopok
16:30.17GNUtoo|laptopthanks
16:30.30Alex[sp3dev]btw xorg has turned out to be quite fast
16:30.42GNUtoo|laptopok
16:30.45Alex[sp3dev]i am using msleep(1000 / 25) for the delay
16:31.18Alex[sp3dev]just xrandr didn't want to rotate the display. does it work for you?
16:31.23GNUtoo|laptopno
16:31.33GNUtoo|laptopxf86-video-fbdev doesn't support xrandr rotation
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16:31.48Alex[sp3dev]uhh? afair, it has worked back in 2009
16:31.49GNUtoo|laptopbut vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf does
16:32.00GNUtoo|laptopthat's because you used kdrive
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16:38.15GNUtoo|laptopwhich is now unmaintened
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16:51.18Alex[sp3dev]GNUtoo: i begin to think that implementing fbioblank is a bad idea at all, because xorg calls it every now and then which leads to trash appearing on the screen
16:54.46Alex[sp3dev]ok. i have simply added blank and unblank into the ioctl.. it sucks. i think i will just stop/resume the refresh thread when blank/unblank is called
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16:55.55gauner1986hi
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17:01.19MN2hi gainer1986
17:01.33MN2*gauner1986
17:02.54fakker:)
17:04.07mdeejay:)
17:08.16MN2:)
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18:05.19Alex[sp3dev]GNUtoo|laptop: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5650/0004qe.jpg
18:10.05JohnSheridanwhat is it alex?
18:15.16Alex[sp3dev]JonhSheridan: it is SHR.. i hoped it would be a nice distro.. but turns out much stuff is written in python and is rather buggy.. so i'd probably stick to ubuntu or debian
18:15.50Alex[sp3dev]JohnSheridan: here is a video of n900 running SHR if you want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI
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18:16.22b-maximenkoplease, give me at least brief answer. Is there a possibility to increase touchscreen polling rate for leo? The only thing which leo looses in against most android phones is smoothness of scrolling. I'm that fanatic guy who posted videos showing ts lag a few monthes ago.
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18:18.04JohnSheridanand who develops SHR?
18:18.27Alex[sp3dev]mostly the same guys that were developing openmoko, i suppose
18:18.48JohnSheridanwithout any support from commerce?
18:19.02Alex[sp3dev]i think, yes
18:19.53Alex[sp3dev]i think it'd be better to stick to ubuntu with lxde or gnome.. you'd lose the finger-oriented UI, but at least could enjoy stability and use the same ofono telephony stack used by meego
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18:20.28JohnSheridanwhat about meego?
18:21.19Alex[sp3dev]nothing.. i think it would be a cool os. but for now it is not quite ready. and it's UI relies on opengl es 2.0 heavily, so it's not a good choice for not-so-modern devices
18:21.38JohnSheridanso it's still very buggy too?
18:21.58JohnSheridanI am afraid this, bcz no devices with it actually now
18:22.43Alex[sp3dev]from what i've seen on the videos, it is not really VERY buggy.. though the UI is not finished. the main problem is that it has high hardware requirements and will be slow on msm72k
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18:26.01JohnSheridanyeah fucking slow
18:26.07JohnSheridanon leo should be good, isn't it?
18:26.13JohnSheridanbut there again new drivers
18:26.30Alex[sp3dev]yes, it is quite fast on N1 even without hardware gl
18:26.49JohnSheridanhow telephone there implemented?
18:26.59Alex[sp3dev]via the ofono ril stack
18:27.24Alex[sp3dev]there is support for msm72k modem in ofono
18:28.37JohnSheridannot bad
18:28.44JohnSheridanwhat about camera>
18:28.45JohnSheridan?
18:29.51Alex[sp3dev]as for camera, 3D and sound.. it's going to be painful, because google decided not to use standard interfaces (for opengl, alsa and video4linux).. (they even have a custom libc).. so you'll need to write wrappers or rewrite them.
18:30.57JohnSheridanhttp://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/V4L2 this one?
18:31.05Alex[sp3dev]exactly
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19:28.34GNUtoo|laptopAlex[sp3dev] nice :)
19:29.15GNUtoo|laptoptoo bad he has quit
19:29.17GNUtoo|laptopanyway
19:29.25GNUtoo|laptopmost of it is not written in python
19:29.42GNUtoo|laptopmost of it is written in C or vala
19:29.48GNUtoo|laptopvala compiles to C
19:30.32GNUtoo|laptoponly shr-settings is in python I think
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20:40.15en1gmacan the tmobile usa htc hd2 use att 3g if it is unlocked? i paid the money at one of those online unlockers and i am running the latest official tmobile rom i just not sure what the phone can do on the att network
20:40.36en1gmai hear it can work with mms and sms and internet over 3g on att and then i read and some say it can not
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20:56.44en1gmawith this official tmobile usa rom running on this htc hd2 (and its sim/carrier unlocked) will it work straight away with att or is there anything i need to do to get mms/sms edge working? i already found out 3g wont work
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23:01.04F22hiya WisTilt2, nice to see your speakerphone mic fix in the tree. :)
23:01.29WisTilt2hey there F22, how goes it?
23:01.46WisTilt2yeah committed yesterday but I hear the autobuild is down so :(
23:02.54F22not bad, i just built the new kernel with your commit and posted it to xda. so we should still get feedback.
23:03.59WisTilt2only other thing that really needs updating is the audio param file to get the speakerphone levels up where they should be.  they really are set too low with the current values in those tables.
23:05.09F22weren't you going to set the defaults to either 3 or 4 if i recall correctly? i think 4 was the original idea, but that might be too loud for some, so you decided to go with 3 i think in the end? where are they starting now?
23:06.33WisTilt2i have it set to 4 as default for speakerphone however, the audio param file is where those values come from and even 5 isnt high enough.  i doubled the table values here and at level 4 i can easily hear across the room while in speakerphone, the current table is about 1/3 that level.
23:06.53F22oh
23:06.57F22i see
23:07.24WisTilt2id be curious how the level sounds on other phones.  i just know on my 300 it is way too low.
23:09.52WisTilt2man we are getting hammered with rain.  they are estimating almost 5 inches out of this storm over a few day period, our annual norm is around 8.5 inches all year long so we have some serious flooding going on in this valley.
23:10.04F22sounded good on your old kernel, i'll see how it sounds on the new one now.
23:11.05WisTilt2this kernel it should be one step louder by default.  i dont remember but did we ever get the volume bar to match the speakerphone level?  that was so long ago i dont remember where we left it.
23:11.18F22you are in cali if i recall correctly?  well look on the bright side, no drought issues this year. :P
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23:11.54F22nope, you were going to look into it.
23:12.06F22some variable you needed to find you thought.
23:12.23WisTilt2yes central calif.  they expect close to 15feet of snow in our mountains also. now if it just doesnt all come down at one time we'll be good water wise this next year for farming.
23:13.14F22whistles appreciatively. "15 feet...that's a lot of snow..."
23:13.59WisTilt2yeah over a few day period it sure is.  our normal snow pack is around 15' so who knows what we'll end up with after this winter is done.
23:16.33F22yep, on the East Coast at least, Jan is generally worse than Dec and Feb is worst of all in terms of snow accumulation.
23:16.40WisTilt2so where's our faithful tester arrrghhh,  he still around? i'll be needing some testing here shortly on some of this other stuff on my list.
23:17.12F22yup, he's still around. i was chatting with him just last night.
23:18.13F22and i know he reads these logs, so he'll know you'll be needing him soon. ;)
23:20.17F22damn, i left my handset too long in my pocket, battery ran down. need to recharge via AC.
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23:23.56F22wistilt2: pohket has also popped on every so often hoping to find you. adsp tables if i recall correctly.
23:26.20WisTilt2yeah that's on my list also.  so much to do, just need to take it one fix at a time. i want to get these kbd backlight and button lights fix done next.  [acl] needs me to code the panel init stuff for haret also so i have a full plate for awhile:)
23:26.52Alex[sp3dev]better fix camera clocks and camera library for all devices.. how about v4l'ing it?
23:27.47JohnSheridanhey alex again
23:27.59Alex[sp3dev]hey
23:29.38JohnSheridanbtw there msm_v4l2.c  is it working?
23:30.18Alex[sp3dev]as far as i know, no. i will have a look into it (though it hangs my device when i compile it in). i think some work has been done on CA for qsd8k, but not for msm72k
23:30.36JohnSheridanokay
23:33.09phhJohnSheridan: v4l2 should work on all devices (msm7k included), but it requires some userland daemon running
23:33.53JohnSheridanwhy?
23:34.06phhwhy not ?
23:34.12phhI mean that's the way it has been coded
23:34.30Alex[sp3dev]can't we just move all those vfe stuff that the library does to v4l driver? i think that'd be a nicer approach
23:34.33JohnSheridanso in meego camera won't work out of box with this file?
23:34.42Alex[sp3dev]no
23:34.48JohnSheridanwhy
23:35.07Alex[sp3dev]so, we just need to rewrite the camera library.. at least we need to do it to get any camera support for msm72k
23:35.31Alex[sp3dev]because we do not have the userspace daemon that would setup the camera
23:35.44JohnSheridandaemon == service?
23:35.49Alex[sp3dev]exactly
23:36.01JohnSheridanand which tasks it have?
23:36.28phhAlex[sp3dev]: **I think** we could run it with some simple android tool
23:36.29Alex[sp3dev]as i understand it, you need to write some stuff to /dev/msm_camera/control0, maybe push some data to vfe via rpc, and then grab frames from /dev/video0 by any v4l application
23:36.30phh(within a chroot)
23:36.42phhthis daemon is in libcamera_oem.so from qualcomm
23:36.46Alex[sp3dev]phh: i think i will just write the proper library when i'm done with exams
23:37.13JohnSheridanhm libcamera_oem
23:37.20JohnSheridanwhat about CodeAurora code
23:37.22phhAlex[sp3dev]: you can barely code "simple" clock commands, and you want to rewrite a whole camera engine ?
23:37.24JohnSheridan?
23:38.21Alex[sp3dev]phh: looking at dzo's stuff, that should be easy.. just pushing several byte arrays.. anyway, other suggestions? i don't want to debug the proprietary library, wasted lots of time already
23:38.59phhdzo can do scaling, encoding jpeg, and stuff ?
23:40.07Alex[sp3dev]phh: no.. but can you suggest any alternative? not like playing with toshiba and trying to convince me that it is impossible to get the camera running?
23:40.24phhI told you to use android's lib ...
23:40.37phhif you want to opensource it, ok, I guess reading dzo stuff is the way to go
23:40.39JohnSheridanAlex, in SHR?
23:40.52Alex[sp3dev]debugging android's lib is veeery difficult and time-consuming
23:40.59phh???
23:41.06phhwhy would you debug it ?
23:41.12Alex[sp3dev]JohnSheridan: what about SHR? i barely looked at it, and didn't quite like
23:41.31JohnSheridanokay nothing
23:41.32Alex[sp3dev]phh: because i need to trace the reason it fails.. with some CbCr buffer overflow
23:41.33JohnSheridanu talk about camera
23:41.37JohnSheridanin ubunto so?
23:41.48phhah.
23:43.04Alex[sp3dev]JohnSheridan: actually we are talking about getting any camera support for msm72k. we have fixed the qdsp, and now are having troubles with the library. ok, i am having. because i'm not using rpc and because i have the mt9t012vc sensor for which i had to write the driver.. so i need to step-by-step figure out what's broken
23:44.15JohnSheridanoh
23:44.45JohnSheridanshould be fucking difficult
23:44.51JohnSheridancamera is always so
23:45.22JohnSheridanvery difficult to get good images
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23:45.44Alex[sp3dev]who cares for quality.. we need to get it running at least
23:47.59JohnSheridanlol )))

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