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| 01:34.45 | dcordes | ~seen GNUtoo |
| 01:34.56 | apt | gnutoo <~gnutoo@host11-111-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 13h 37m 4s ago, saying: 'hi mickeyl '. |
| 01:35.01 | dcordes | 19:35 < GNUtoo|Laptop> dekar_, just that android battery system is different |
| 01:35.01 | dcordes | 19:35 < GNUtoo|Laptop> get the battery % in the settings |
| 01:35.01 | dcordes | 19:35 < GNUtoo|Laptop> on the desktop settings icon->power |
| 01:36.20 | dcordes | that's about G1 right |
| 01:36.26 | dekar_ | yeah |
| 01:36.31 | dcordes | do we have a 'release' yet ? :) |
| 01:36.34 | dcordes | dekar_: hey |
| 01:36.45 | dcordes | you think shr on g1 is usable as daily driver ? |
| 01:36.58 | dekar_ | oh well - barely |
| 01:37.18 | dekar_ | screen turns never off, just background |
| 01:37.33 | dcordes | mhm |
| 01:37.48 | dekar_ | you can't change from landscape to portrait without restarting Xorg (about everything) |
| 01:37.49 | dcordes | so battery life is limited |
| 01:38.01 | dekar_ | battery seemed quite fine when I tried |
| 01:38.05 | dcordes | awesome |
| 01:38.19 | dekar_ | also when you touch the screen backlight turns on already |
| 01:38.21 | dcordes | it should be made available to all g1 users |
| 01:38.32 | dekar_ | same for every button and even trackball movement |
| 01:38.33 | dcordes | how did you install it ? |
| 01:38.40 | dekar_ | I just flashed it |
| 01:39.00 | dcordes | I guess it is booting fast ? |
| 01:39.19 | dcordes | SHR on my htc leo (hd2) boots in 10 secs |
| 01:39.28 | dekar_ | yeah |
| 01:39.29 | dcordes | and that'S from class 4 uSD |
| 01:39.30 | dekar_ | boots fine |
| 01:39.49 | dekar_ | most of the hardware seems to work as well |
| 01:39.59 | dcordes | is it difficult to flash for the average user ? |
| 01:40.01 | dekar_ | bluetooth, gps etc |
| 01:40.11 | dekar_ | not any different from flashing android |
| 01:40.15 | dcordes | that'S nice |
| 01:40.25 | dcordes | GNUtoo spent lots of time with this device to get that far |
| 01:40.49 | dekar_ | the browser really sucked when I tried it -.-" |
| 01:41.20 | dekar_ | I don't think I'll keep it for every day usage - though I was pretty impressed how well it runs |
| 01:41.43 | dekar_ | but shr obviously wasn't ever designed to run on hvga |
| 01:41.48 | dcordes | yeah |
| 01:42.07 | dcordes | it's not well known that an almost fully working alternative to android exists |
| 01:42.20 | dcordes | google propaganda doesn't allow for such thoughts |
| 01:42.29 | dcordes | in the end user |
| 01:43.06 | dekar_ | it supports calls - I have tried that |
| 01:43.23 | dekar_ | and I read text messages would work as well |
| 01:43.55 | dekar_ | I like having Xorg - I really miss that on android -.-" |
| 01:43.59 | dekar_ | also alsa |
| 01:44.15 | dcordes | we should put together some g1-shr-beta.zip with easy to follow step by step instructions |
| 01:44.19 | dekar_ | android is linux without everything you need for daily use |
| 01:44.26 | dcordes | is it hosted on openembedded.org ? |
| 01:44.41 | dekar_ | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/htcdream/ |
| 01:44.48 | dcordes | ok |
| 01:45.15 | dekar_ | normal users won't use it - and I don't think you find many developers for such an old device |
| 01:45.24 | dcordes | for the heck of it |
| 01:46.30 | dekar_ | it really doesn't feel ready - like the keymap isn't working properly |
| 01:46.42 | dcordes | dekar_: can you ask gnutoo to add a flashing readme ? |
| 01:46.50 | dekar_ | shift works, but the alternate mapping isn't working so no special chars |
| 01:47.02 | dcordes | if you see him |
| 01:47.08 | dekar_ | flashing is simple, just flash the file with .fastboot at the end |
| 01:47.12 | dcordes | ok |
| 01:47.13 | dekar_ | then you're done |
| 01:47.28 | dekar_ | flash it to boot - like android kernels |
| 01:48.05 | dekar_ | I think you can also flash it to rescue. this will then overwrite the rescue partition but allow you to dualboot shr and android |
| 01:48.30 | dekar_ | for the g1 there isn't much need for the rescue partition anyway since you have fastboot |
| 01:48.42 | dekar_ | which is even mightier :) |
| 01:50.06 | dcordes | is it possible to go through these processes in windows ? |
| 01:50.46 | dcordes | dekar_: you have a camera :) ? |
| 01:51.34 | dekar_ | yeah I have one - some old 3 megapixel cam with 128mb sd XD |
| 01:51.49 | dekar_ | sure - you don't even need a PC to do it |
| 01:52.01 | dekar_ | you can do everything needed on android |
| 01:52.01 | dcordes | awesome |
| 01:52.22 | dcordes | that's perfect. but we really need somebody who can test it to write it down |
| 01:52.30 | dekar_ | just try it - it's hard to brick the g1 anyway |
| 01:52.52 | dcordes | 1) download file x from y 2) put y on sd ... |
| 01:53.03 | dekar_ | yeah I can guide you through it |
| 01:53.07 | dcordes | lol well you get the idea |
| 01:53.15 | dekar_ | and you write some tutorial |
| 01:53.29 | dcordes | sorry I don't have the device. else I would do a tutorial |
| 01:53.34 | dcordes | that's why I am asking |
| 01:54.04 | dekar_ | just do a nandroid backup of your old android - that allows you to 100% restore it like it was before with all settings and apps etc |
| 01:54.10 | dekar_ | you know nandroid right? |
| 01:54.26 | dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=DreamBuilds |
| 01:54.28 | dcordes | check this out |
| 01:54.31 | dekar_ | hmm why are you interested then? |
| 01:54.35 | dcordes | no I don't have any android phone sorry |
| 01:54.47 | dcordes | because I want people to enjoy gnutoo's work |
| 01:54.56 | dcordes | and get some fun out their old phones |
| 01:55.23 | dcordes | we might use that wiki page above to put a guide |
| 01:56.02 | dekar_ | people won't enjoy it |
| 01:56.29 | dekar_ | those linux addicts who actually care will find it |
| 01:56.36 | dekar_ | the rest won't enjoy it anyway |
| 01:57.20 | dekar_ | first thing gnutoo told me was to kill the setup assistant via ssh and restart the desktop manually |
| 01:57.36 | dekar_ | it kinda works, but most people really won't enjoy it |
| 01:57.42 | dekar_ | so don't waste their time |
| 01:59.24 | dcordes | well in that case.. I thought it boots up ready to use |
| 02:01.20 | dcordes | but I think your assumption people won't enjoy it might be wrong |
| 02:03.07 | dekar_ | it boots up ready to use - but "clicking" any input line will make the virtual keyboard pop up and block everything on the screen |
| 02:03.23 | dekar_ | so it is buggy like hell and you get stuck in that case |
| 02:03.25 | dcordes | :'-( |
| 02:03.43 | dekar_ | shr was made for 640x480 - dream has 480x320 |
| 02:03.43 | dcordes | any idea if gnutoo is seeing a way to fix ? |
| 02:03.46 | dekar_ | you see the problem? |
| 02:03.53 | dekar_ | fonts are uber tiny etc |
| 02:04.25 | dekar_ | pidgin worked quite well - though some settings were out of screen and thus unreachable |
| 02:04.44 | dekar_ | so you'd have to edit the config file using a text editor instead |
| 02:04.45 | dcordes | ah I have seen that on the log |
| 02:05.12 | dekar_ | it's no alternative for 99,9% of the people |
| 02:05.21 | dekar_ | and I probably won't use it as my daily system |
| 02:05.42 | dekar_ | haven't decided yet, but android _is_ more convenient |
| 02:06.01 | dcordes | we might provide a beta that is ran from uSD: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Rootfs/Userfriendly |
| 02:06.11 | dcordes | 03:05 < dekar_> haven't decided yet, but android _is_ more convenient |
| 02:06.14 | dcordes | sure... |
| 02:06.24 | dcordes | shr on that device is a one man project |
| 02:07.03 | dcordes | to me it sounds he got very very far if you compare how many people work on android userspace for dream .. |
| 02:07.14 | dekar_ | afaik all moko distributions pretty much suck - even on freerunner |
| 02:07.35 | dekar_ | sure - that's why it needs developers but not normal users |
| 02:07.37 | dcordes | well freerunner hw sucks so.. |
| 02:08.10 | dcordes | if you make it known via many enduer testers, more developers will hear about it |
| 02:08.35 | dekar_ | I disagree but well - do as you like |
| 02:08.52 | dcordes | you think it should be kept secret forever |
| 02:09.00 | dekar_ | I don't really care about the shr distribution anyway, I care more about using the kernel to run debian |
| 02:09.27 | dcordes | well you get additional kernel hacekrs on board that way as well |
| 02:09.29 | dekar_ | lol I don't think it should be kept secret - it isn't btw |
| 02:09.48 | dcordes | trust me I've been around these projects for a while. the public attention can never harm. |
| 02:09.50 | dekar_ | sure - how about you write me a opengl enabled driver for it? |
| 02:09.59 | ali1234 | debian? what you gonna use to make phone calls? |
| 02:10.06 | dcordes | ali1234: ofono |
| 02:10.30 | dekar_ | I agree, but I don't see any use - you will just waste peoples time |
| 02:10.42 | dcordes | ali1234: basically you take the gnutoo kernel source and all his scripts that wrap around whacky android drivers (gps etc)# |
| 02:10.46 | dekar_ | ali1234, don't care too much about phone calls on debian ;) |
| 02:10.57 | ali1234 | what dialer UI does debian have? |
| 02:10.57 | dekar_ | but well I could probably use some dialer app for it |
| 02:11.23 | dcordes | dekar_: how do you not see use in getting additional developers ? |
| 02:11.35 | dekar_ | g1 is dying already |
| 02:11.44 | dekar_ | not worth it - but do as you like |
| 02:11.46 | dcordes | then why are we talking anyway |
| 02:11.50 | dcordes | lol |
| 02:11.56 | dcordes | that makes no sense my friend |
| 02:11.57 | dekar_ | cause you are talking to me |
| 02:12.24 | dcordes | you have interest in the kernel / debian why should others not |
| 02:13.09 | dekar_ | cause there isn't anyone else here |
| 02:14.05 | dcordes | I just hate keeping watch those builds gaining dust with all the effort in them |
| 02:14.06 | dekar_ | I guess I'll look into getting some gnu linux device - maybe something meego based - or webOS? |
| 02:14.21 | dekar_ | dcordes, then buy a dream and start developing |
| 02:14.43 | dcordes | also it makes no sense to call a project dead just because the device is old |
| 02:15.14 | dekar_ | I'd guess they're out of production |
| 02:15.16 | ali1234 | don't expect meego devices with unlocked bootloaders |
| 02:15.22 | ali1234 | except maybe a few x86 netbooks |
| 02:15.51 | dcordes | ..how many use recent linux distros on the old omap850 devices |
| 02:16.09 | ali1234 | actually, virtually nobody |
| 02:16.47 | ali1234 | probably more people are using blueangel/universal... because that actually works |
| 02:17.14 | ali1234 | the problem is that publicity just brings a bunch of people who want to "help test" - by which they mean they want the new code NAO |
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| 02:17.45 | ali1234 | but testing is not really all that useful, projects like this need coders not testers |
| 02:18.10 | dcordes | if you want coders, you need to make the project known, right ? |
| 02:18.20 | ali1234 | coders will find it pretty easily |
| 02:18.30 | dcordes | if they are looking for it |
| 02:18.30 | dekar_ | disagree - coders find those projects |
| 02:18.41 | dekar_ | I have found it |
| 02:19.46 | ali1234 | plenty of non-coders find it too, that's why we have that -chat channel now :( |
| 02:22.13 | dcordes | ok ok ;) |
| 02:22.50 | dcordes | well soon as we have something for g1 that does not require ssh access etc. and have small documentation I will try to make it known |
| 02:23.48 | dekar_ | it doesn't need ssh if people make sure to ignore the setup assistant and don't input the information it asks for |
| 02:24.07 | dcordes | that could be done via step by step guide |
| 02:24.14 | dekar_ | also stuff like the browser is pretty much broken - icons are really big and you can barely see the website |
| 02:24.28 | dcordes | did you try to compile the latest fennec ? |
| 02:24.31 | dekar_ | so go on and make sure it gets known |
| 02:24.46 | dekar_ | isn't fennec an android browser? |
| 02:25.04 | ali1234 | no |
| 02:25.14 | ali1234 | fennec is some gecko based browser |
| 02:25.24 | dekar_ | running on android/winmo? |
| 02:25.26 | ali1234 | everyone else in the whole world uses webkit cos it's about 10000000 times better |
| 02:25.31 | dcordes | hm why don you go and replace such comments by cooperation and constructivity ? |
| 02:25.46 | dekar_ | ali1234, your answer didn't exclude my statement |
| 02:25.58 | dcordes | ali1234: fennec works pretty well on my hd2 |
| 02:26.01 | dekar_ | I surely won't port it from android api to Xorg |
| 02:26.03 | ali1234 | fennec is a third party browser, it runs on many platforms |
| 02:26.14 | ali1234 | it isn't standard on any of them except for maemo, where it totally sucks |
| 02:26.22 | ali1234 | possibly meego handset too |
| 02:26.29 | dekar_ | it sucked on my g1 running android as well |
| 02:26.38 | dcordes | I tested it in Ubuntu on the hd2 ;) |
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| 02:26.56 | dekar_ | oh well hd2 has like thrice my hardware specs |
| 02:27.29 | dcordes | note to self: compile SHR on screen keyboard for ubuntu on hd2 |
| 02:27.38 | dekar_ | g1 isn't able to do multitasking on android - once I runs like my gps app it kills even the desktop app |
| 02:28.10 | dekar_ | the keyboard didn't look too great actually |
| 02:28.18 | dekar_ | you probably find better ones |
| 02:28.36 | dcordes | the ones in ubuntu are not made for finger input |
| 02:28.49 | dekar_ | use ssh? |
| 02:28.50 | dekar_ | XD |
| 02:28.51 | darkstone-away | is alsa supported yet on the hd2? |
| 02:28.53 | dcordes | https://launchpad.net/smartphone |
| 02:29.04 | dcordes | darkstone: no. |
| 02:29.14 | darkstone | too bad |
| 02:29.17 | dcordes | I have to go |
| 02:29.17 | dcordes | bye |
| 02:29.22 | darkstone | bb |
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| 11:26.10 | noobhands_ | gauner1986: |
| 11:26.21 | noobhands_ | find me htc_ime evo keyboard for me |
| 11:26.22 | noobhands_ | i cant find apk |
| 11:26.25 | noobhands_ | i'll find you a gf |
| 11:26.38 | gauner1986 | i got one |
| 11:26.42 | gauner1986 | but at home |
| 11:26.54 | noobhands_ | a gf?! |
| 11:26.58 | noobhands_ | or the keyboard |
| 11:31.53 | gauner1986 | the keyboard |
| 11:31.54 | gauner1986 | :P |
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| 12:47.08 | fakker | :D |
| 12:47.11 | fakker | that was in the wrong window |
| 12:47.13 | fakker | lol |
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| 13:39.12 | [acl] | phh: i pushed the .35fb |
| 13:39.46 | [acl] | phh: there is still some work to be done to move some of the devices to mddi_simple but i think emwe will handle that. rhobontu wasnt broken so it was all good |
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| 16:08.47 | scrizz | :) |
| 16:08.48 | scrizz | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876936 |
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| 16:12.34 | [acl] | emwe: y0 .. commited.. ready for your butchering |
| 16:12.49 | emwe | yah, already at it a bit. |
| 16:12.52 | emwe | just testing t2 register ;) |
| 16:13.00 | emwe | with my older merged tree... |
| 16:13.06 | emwe | got 33fps last night. |
| 16:13.11 | [acl] | woa |
| 16:13.26 | emwe | but strangely by lowering the t2 reg value |
| 16:13.31 | [acl] | i feel like people musta felt the time when we first broke the sound barrier |
| 16:13.54 | emwe | there must be some connection between t2 and vpa register. but havne't yet got a clue out of it. read some evo forum posts... but |
| 16:14.09 | emwe | essentially the defaults i get when reading t2=340 and vpa=1 |
| 16:14.14 | emwe | (decimal) |
| 16:14.33 | [acl] | emwe: well that can happen.. i guess we gotta do some math to even see how long our blits are taking. We may be able to vsync at a different rate but it all depends no how fast we draw.. |
| 16:14.42 | [acl] | emwe: so were you able to read the values? i couldnt on the rhod |
| 16:14.48 | emwe | yes, i can. |
| 16:14.53 | [acl] | dang lucky |
| 16:15.09 | [acl] | i wonder why we cant.. i get 0 always |
| 16:15.24 | emwe | [ 1.902465] htctopaz_mddi_client_init: readT2=0x154 (340) readVPA=0x1 (1) |
| 16:15.45 | [acl] | hmm.. maybe its a nand thing.. |
| 16:15.48 | emwe | and i get an always cpu hogging system_server thread |
| 16:15.59 | emwe | so it's a pita to reboot again and again |
| 16:16.18 | [acl] | we should have bzo test on rhod in haret.. if he can ready.. then im missing something on nand.. |
| 16:18.26 | emwe | what should i do about the mddi clients? |
| 16:18.51 | emwe | i think we can safely move topa and rhod at least. |
| 16:19.41 | [acl] | emwe: well im interested to see that CABC crap.. we have it commentde out.. not sure if we should enable. |
| 16:19.54 | [acl] | we need to move the ones who use epson since that driver is no longer in .35 |
| 16:19.55 | emwe | hm, always the ioctl to fd=10 (/dev/binder) causing delays in system_server... |
| 16:20.13 | emwe | ok, one thing at a time ;) |
| 16:20.30 | [acl] | i need to scour alexes commits.. see if he got some of this stuff done |
| 16:20.44 | emwe | he at least has the whole gpio moves done in his tree |
| 16:21.00 | emwe | but it was a huge commit including .35fb and hw3d update and gpio moves |
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| 16:21.18 | emwe | i am a bit afraid of pulling that one in in one go. |
| 16:21.39 | [acl] | ahh |
| 16:21.41 | emwe | btw, has anybody ever requested commit access for him? would very likely simplify our lives. |
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| 16:23.38 | phh | [acl]: it's time for me to scream ? :p |
| 16:25.05 | [acl] | phh: not sure bro.. i had alot of pigs test.. |
| 16:25.25 | [acl] | but we are discussing this now to see what else needs to be done to get it up to par. i didnt want to commit everything in one shot |
| 16:26.06 | phh | [acl]: TV out works ? :D |
| 16:26.40 | stinebd | nobody cares about rhobuntu anyway |
| 16:26.47 | stinebd | runs |
| 16:26.52 | [acl] | stinebd: lol |
| 16:29.02 | [acl] | stinebd: ok so this is just the start. i still have that issue on the raph but peoople with raph100 didnt notice an issue. so not sure where to look |
| 16:29.39 | stinebd | well mine is a raph110, which should be exactly the same as 100 but with different keyboard |
| 16:29.58 | stinebd | but then again, who knows... |
| 16:30.05 | stinebd | (htc maybe) |
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| 16:32.25 | emwe | so, the third trial for a not cpu-hogging system_server. a pita. |
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| 16:34.04 | stinebd | you haven't fixed it yet? |
| 16:34.37 | [acl] | phh: i will commit alex clocks to help bzo's issue with the camera.. i think we already all agreed that the clocks are solid |
| 16:35.02 | phh | [acl]: ok |
| 16:35.05 | [acl] | not today tho maybe tonight |
| 16:35.08 | emwe | used them for quite a while. all fine. |
| 16:35.46 | emwe | [acl]: there's a fixup_black_clocks() or something which must be taken care of. probably dropped from the board file then. |
| 16:35.47 | [acl] | i hate to take some credit for em but i did help :-p .. |
| 16:35.51 | emwe | (can't remember which one) |
| 16:36.16 | [acl] | emwe: ahh man yeah .. which reminds me.. need to talk to alex about that. we should be setting the speed of the mddi on the panel like supopsed to |
| 16:36.20 | emwe | phh: hows the toshiba going? are you msm'ing at all recently? |
| 16:36.31 | phh | emwe: yeah non msm atm |
| 16:36.37 | emwe | [acl]: the MDPH thingy? |
| 16:36.49 | phh | s/non/no/ |
| 16:37.15 | phh | emwe: yeah black 'fixup' clock is only a frequency value, and it seems we don't use proper frequency anyway |
| 16:37.29 | phh | (it's not only for black, iirc it's for all WVGA devices) |
| 16:38.11 | emwe | so many things scattered around only for some devices. getting all that stuff together would be great. |
| 16:38.12 | phh | I don't have much time for toshiba AC100 either |
| 16:38.16 | [acl] | we are supposed to pass the freq on the panel code. so mdp/fb and all the video gang can enable it and disable it for us |
| 16:38.20 | emwe | phh: studies? |
| 16:38.25 | phh | emwe: more or less :p |
| 16:38.31 | phh | emwe: "student life" it's called I think |
| 16:38.34 | phh | like clubs |
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| 16:38.46 | [acl] | drinking ur ass off huh :-p |
| 16:39.41 | phh | no |
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| 16:48.18 | emwe | is there a way to "preview" a merge with git? |
| 16:48.22 | emwe | or doing a dry-run? |
| 16:48.44 | emwe | i don't wan't to resolve conflicts later on when i can avoid them first... |
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| 16:51.30 | [acl] | emwe: if you find a way let me know.. its a pain |
| 16:52.06 | emwe | i can stash my local changes away and merge them back in, but that's not as convenient to see if some local mods would collide on pull |
| 16:52.35 | emwe | allthough i recall stash save and pop do a good job |
| 16:52.54 | ali1234 | why don't you just commit and then rebase like you're supposed to? |
| 16:53.27 | [acl] | dang.. there is some wisdom right there |
| 16:53.55 | ali1234 | if you don't like it just revert |
| 16:54.00 | ali1234 | no need for "previews" |
| 16:54.32 | ali1234 | you can make as many branches as you need for "trying stuff" |
| 16:54.48 | ali1234 | but it is much easier if you actually commit your work instead of using stash all the time |
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| 16:56.00 | ali1234 | merging is also less likely to explode in your face if you make a sensible patch series instead of one uberpatch |
| 16:56.30 | [acl] | haha.. uberpatch |
| 16:56.46 | emwe | ali1234: so i commit my local trying stuff into a local branch, switch to the main branch, pull incmoing changes and merge the local branches' commit in, understood right? |
| 16:57.48 | ali1234 | if you only have one commit you can cherry-pick it |
| 16:58.05 | ali1234 | if you have loads you can rebase it |
| 16:58.09 | emwe | should i mention that i never really read about that rebase stuff... how would a scenario look like for the afformentioned case? (local changes which might collide with pulled remote commits) |
| 16:59.36 | ali1234 | git rebase changes the base point of a branch |
| 17:00.07 | ali1234 | so what it does is unwind all your patches back to the branch point, then apply them at some other point you specify, like the newest version |
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| 17:00.43 | ali1234 | it does this almost completely automatically by looking at the patches, and then looking at the diff of the patched files, and then rebuilding the patches to apply on the latest versions of the files |
| 17:00.56 | ali1234 | it doesn't always work though so if it fails it will just ask you to fix it by hand |
| 17:01.34 | emwe | perhaps i should read more about that sooner rather then later. |
| 17:02.08 | ali1234 | so say you clone some git trepo, then you have a local branch called master which tracks the remote |
| 17:02.20 | ali1234 | you make a branch from master called say "monday" |
| 17:02.28 | ali1234 | commit some series of changes on it |
| 17:03.01 | ali1234 | then on tuesday you go to the master branch, do a git pull, and create a new branch called "tuesday" |
| 17:03.17 | ali1234 | then you rebase your patches from "monday" branch to "tuesday" branch |
| 17:03.29 | ali1234 | now your work is up to date |
| 17:04.28 | ali1234 | you can do this all in one branch using git merge |
| 17:04.29 | emwe | and the monday commits are all stacked "above" the pulled commits from master? or are they "ordered" in chronological order? |
| 17:04.48 | ali1234 | with rebase they are stacked above it |
| 17:05.00 | ali1234 | with merge they end up in chronological order (i think) |
| 17:05.23 | emwe | ok, one always has the unpushed stuff at the top so to say. |
| 17:05.39 | ali1234 | with rebase, yes |
| 17:06.05 | emwe | is it considered good practice to commit the latest crap always? |
| 17:06.26 | ali1234 | sure why not, you can always branch from an earlier point |
| 17:06.38 | [acl] | lol i dunno about that.. but then again i broke autobuild so im a special case :-p |
| 17:06.40 | emwe | like testing stuff, dirty unclean code... i mean.. one day - idealy- these commits are to be merged and pushed upstream. so there's a serious of utter crap commits with likely breakage... |
| 17:06.45 | ali1234 | although i don't like to commit broken code |
| 17:07.05 | ali1234 | you can clean up history later with rebase --interactive |
| 17:07.10 | ali1234 | and squash |
| 17:07.11 | emwe | aha |
| 17:07.41 | ali1234 | you can take a series of 100 commits and reduce it to one patch from start to finish |
| 17:07.45 | emwe | oi! neato. |
| 17:07.46 | ali1234 | so if you jeep taking something in and out, that will disappear when you squash the patches |
| 17:08.18 | ali1234 | git rebase --interactive is *really* powerful |
| 17:09.11 | ali1234 | eg you can edit any commit in the series, and it will fix all the later ones automatically |
| 17:10.48 | emwe | you are not a git tutor, no ;) |
| 17:10.57 | emwe | i guess this is all usually done via cmdline, yes? |
| 17:11.09 | emwe | or is there a tool recommended by you ali1234? |
| 17:11.13 | ali1234 | you can get GUIs for it i guess, i use command line though |
| 17:11.39 | ali1234 | i use gitk though for viewing the overall tree, makes it quite a bit clearer |
| 17:11.52 | ali1234 | you should get a editor that supports merging too |
| 17:12.14 | ali1234 | (for git mergetool to work) |
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| 17:12.36 | ali1234 | a lot of the "interactive" stuff is done through your favourite editor anyway |
| 17:13.02 | ali1234 | for example when you rebase --interactive it presents a text file with the list of commits, and you edit it to indicate which commits you want to edit, it's quite easy to do really... |
| 17:13.20 | ali1234 | it pretty much tells you what to do at every point |
| 17:13.25 | emwe | i see |
| 17:13.39 | emwe | my only friends here are geany and meld (the latter for mergetool) |
| 17:14.16 | ali1234 | i use meld, it's quite buggy :( |
| 17:14.33 | ali1234 | sometimes whole bits of the file disappear for no reason, shortly followed by a crash |
| 17:14.53 | emwe | not experienced that, yet. |
| 17:15.21 | emwe | it's a pain though one can't save favourite diff combinatoins. i often find myself comparing whole kernel trees three way |
| 17:15.46 | emwe | ca, ours and android's msm |
| 17:16.12 | ali1234 | you can just macro it on the shell... |
| 17:16.44 | ali1234 | probably more effort than it's worth though |
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| 17:36.13 | Curious_ | darkstone, can i use the partition for system?, |
| 17:36.16 | Curious_ | oops |
| 17:38.26 | NeoMatrixJR | anyone seeing the .35 FB update on glemsom's service? looks like his auto-build hasn't auto-built yet.... |
| 17:40.27 | emwe | NeoMatrixJR: autobuild is offline as glemsom is moving flat. |
| 17:41.40 | NeoMatrixJR | oh |
| 17:42.15 | [acl] | lol |
| 17:46.57 | NeoMatrixJR | well... crap. I'm going to have to see if I can get my build system back up and running and up to date.... |
| 17:47.18 | NeoMatrixJR | and get android working properly on my phone again |
| 17:47.26 | NeoMatrixJR | all my apps keep crashing.... |
| 17:48.10 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: the test kernel and modules i released are the same |
| 17:48.21 | [acl] | so you cna use that for now |
| 17:49.13 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl] where are they at? Your forum post w/ the updated gralloc and such? I forgot to bookmark it. |
| 17:49.18 | NeoMatrixJR | :( |
| 17:50.30 | [acl] | no there is a new post.. called test framebuffer |
| 17:50.33 | [acl] | on ppcg |
| 17:50.45 | emwe | [acl]: raph and diam got broken due to the driver name renaming in toshiba client. just to let you know. |
| 17:50.57 | [acl] | emwe: :-( .. damn raph |
| 17:51.27 | [acl] | emwe: can you patch ? im at work so cant patch :-( |
| 17:51.28 | emwe | just saw mine not showing anything but the remnands of haret ;) |
| 17:51.35 | emwe | yap yap. already at it. |
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| 17:54.53 | emwe | [acl]: an idea what the writel(0xa0c, MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE + 0x8c); in alex' panel module init's does? |
| 17:55.14 | [acl] | yeah .. let me look it up |
| 17:56.00 | [acl] | pmdh ns reg |
| 17:56.09 | [acl] | he is setting the speed |
| 17:56.10 | [acl] | hack |
| 17:56.48 | emwe | so i leave that out i guess for the time being. |
| 17:57.02 | [acl] | well until we inplement a way to set the speed in the clock code |
| 17:57.14 | emwe | just diffing to his repo as he got all the mddi cliens vsync-less and already got the panels vsync-setup ready. |
| 17:58.39 | [acl] | ok yeah so this is what we need to implement int he clock code |
| 17:58.40 | [acl] | clk_set_rate |
| 17:58.51 | [acl] | mddi calls it when we pass a value down in the panel code |
| 17:58.59 | [acl] | this way we dont have to butcher the regs directly |
| 18:01.22 | [acl] | we should look at markinus hd2 code for that sinec they have it implemented.. just need to do the math ourselves |
| 18:04.39 | emwe | ok |
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| 18:14.07 | WisTilt2 | Ho Ho Ho! |
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| 18:14.44 | [acl] | WisTilt2: ahh man long time no see |
| 18:14.45 | [acl] | sup budd |
| 18:14.52 | [acl] | perfect timing actually |
| 18:15.16 | WisTilt2 | hey [acl]. yeah took an extended 3 week trip before the holiday rush |
| 18:15.24 | WisTilt2 | unexpected but needed |
| 18:15.38 | [acl] | its all good |
| 18:15.46 | WisTilt2 | what exciting stuff did i miss? |
| 18:16.20 | [acl] | well we commited the .35 frame buffer |
| 18:16.30 | [acl] | so on rhod we are able to hit 30fps 2d |
| 18:16.57 | [acl] | found the mddi init for rhod so nand can actually power down the panel now and bring it back up. But that hasnt been moved to haret yet |
| 18:17.50 | WisTilt2 | so the frame buffer made major speed improvements sounds like. is .35 available for haret yet? |
| 18:18.02 | [acl] | yeah we commited the framebuffer today |
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| 18:18.18 | [acl] | emwe, is cleaning up some stuff now for other devices but rhod is pretty much ok |
| 18:19.02 | WisTilt2 | guess i need to sync and give it a try:) so you have the full panel init doing its thing for nand, nice. anyone working on getting it ready for haret yet? |
| 18:19.28 | bzo | hey WisTilt2, welcome back |
| 18:20.11 | WisTilt2 | hi bzo. yeah wife and i decided on a spur of the moment 3 week trip. feel like a new man now:) |
| 18:20.12 | [acl] | WisTilt2: i can do it but this is where i will need your help. |
| 18:20.42 | [acl] | WisTilt2: there are different inits in the dll so i got them all down. prob is i havent had time to write the code to detect what panel is what so the correct init can be applied |
| 18:20.51 | bzo | I could use a 3 week vaca myself. I'd settle for even 3 days, lol |
| 18:21.56 | WisTilt2 | [acl] i can do that. you need to send me anything or tell me where to get it and ill put it together. im pretty much going to be around through the rest of the year and want to get back on this stuff. |
| 18:22.00 | [acl] | WisTilt2: also we have the novatek doc so we can actually do much more now |
| 18:23.00 | WisTilt2 | bzo: yeah we rarely take any kind of vacation, work work work, and decided to get out of here. i was ready to be back after a week. |
| 18:24.26 | WisTilt2 | [acl] so what do i need? i was going to finish cleaning up the speakerphone mic fix to get commit today then i can work on the panel init. |
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| 18:25.29 | bzo | WisTilt2: so I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the improvement in the 2d UI performance. Also, I think we're down to 1 last hurdle on the camera |
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| 18:25.55 | [acl] | WisTilt2; yeah finish that first. i still have to commit all the inits |
| 18:26.16 | WisTilt2 | yeah im going to pull the .35 source and give it a look. sounds like you guys have been hammering things out this past few weeks:) |
| 18:27.21 | WisTilt2 | [acl] is our server still working ok? havent heard anything about it being down since the motherboard died awhile back. |
| 18:27.28 | [acl] | its solid |
| 18:27.46 | [acl] | its a blessing actually.. we can get more progress on nand thanks to that bad boy. |
| 18:29.15 | emwe | wb WisTilt2. |
| 18:29.17 | WisTilt2 | glad its doing its thing. |
| 18:29.29 | WisTilt2 | hi emwe |
| 18:30.58 | WisTilt2 | ill be in here all day. going to pull the latest git and then clean up the speakerphone stuff. [acl] you doing the committing or do i still send the patch to phh? |
| 18:31.23 | [acl] | whoever.. as long as its phh worthy myself or emwe can do it |
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| 18:37.33 | bzo | emwe so I saw in logs you mentioned that system server thing |
| 18:37.47 | bzo | I though my data was screwed or something, it is actually the kernel? |
| 18:37.49 | emwe | bzo: yap. getting it more and more ony my topa |
| 18:38.11 | emwe | it's the system_server ioctl()ing to /dev/binder that's all i can say |
| 18:38.15 | emwe | and that ioctl takes a while |
| 18:38.16 | bzo | well, it did coincide with when I tried yours and acl's kernels |
| 18:38.24 | emwe | hmhm |
| 18:38.29 | bzo | my tree is a couple weeks/months old |
| 18:38.52 | emwe | i never had that before i think. but i dunno if it came with FRX03. |
| 18:39.05 | bzo | hmm, lemme go back to my kernel and see again. I've been running the same android build for a while |
| 18:39.33 | bzo | btw, I did notice that you ran a location app like places, it tends to clear up the problem |
| 18:40.00 | emwe | hm. let me try that the enxt time. |
| 18:40.53 | bzo | there was an android bug report a while back about that which is why I thought to try it |
| 18:43.21 | bzo | jeez, the old fb is so slow, it is noticeable even in the boot animation |
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| 18:50.08 | emwe | hehe ;) |
| 18:50.35 | bzo | emwe: my old kernel has the same problem too |
| 18:50.46 | bzo | launching places seems to clear it up |
| 18:50.57 | emwe | hm, will try that then. which build are you using? |
| 18:51.03 | emwe | FRX03? |
| 18:51.17 | bzo | more or less, built my own |
| 18:52.06 | bzo | the other factor could be that I didn't associate a google login until I tried your kernel |
| 18:53.48 | emwe | i also build on my own. ;) |
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| 18:53.58 | emwe | but with no mods |
| 18:54.16 | bzo | my mods are minimal, just camera debugging stuff |
| 18:54.51 | bzo | hmm, what is interesting is that with just your mdelay fix, fps2d gets almost the same score |
| 18:55.00 | bzo | however, the ui feels much less smooth |
| 18:58.46 | emwe | the mdelay thingy gets fps up, but only the .35fb seems to get the data "through" to the mddi controller it seems |
| 18:58.56 | emwe | through faster i mean |
| 18:59.53 | bzo | could be. Perhaps fps2d is only measuring the handoff of the frame, and not actually the drawing |
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| 19:11.43 | emwe | so, pushed corrected panel and mddi client code. mostly taken from alex's repo. |
| 19:12.29 | emwe | only topa and rhod left for later. off to supper. |
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| 19:49.16 | stinebd | emwe: nicely done sir. i shall try that kernel later. |
| 19:50.35 | bzo | stinebd: are you seeing high cpu usage by system_server? |
| 19:51.01 | stinebd | bzo: not in a while, but it's been about two weeks since i've even booted it :P |
| 19:51.25 | bzo | lol, that's one solution to avoiding the problem |
| 19:51.54 | bzo | seems like a recent thing. emwe and I are getting it, and I see some chatter about it on #xdandroid |
| 19:52.16 | stinebd | it would be related to the switch from jit to no-jit probably |
| 19:52.33 | stinebd | it happened occasionally before then, but it's more common now |
| 19:53.08 | bzo | I think it started happening for me when I associated a google account |
| 19:53.23 | bzo | maybe triggered by early attempt to access data? |
| 19:53.40 | stinebd | there's no way to know without stracing it or something |
| 19:54.07 | stinebd | i tried attaching strace during the issue but it was some stupid ipc mechanism in a loop at that point. gotta have strace running from the start i think. |
| 19:54.36 | stinebd | actually the ipc thing was something else, i forget what was happening with that. |
| 19:54.57 | stinebd | useless results, anyway |
| 19:55.06 | stinebd | perhaps a recv() and no data |
| 19:55.27 | bzo | did you see emwe's comment about ioctl and /dev/binder? |
| 19:56.04 | stinebd | binder was the issue i was seeing with the random bootloop (on new data.img) we used to fight all the time |
| 19:56.16 | stinebd | which is a kernel ipc mechanism |
| 19:56.59 | stinebd | if it's the same thing causing system_server runaways, then ugh. |
| 19:57.09 | stinebd | and no, i didn't see it |
| 19:57.52 | bzo | "it's the system_server ioctl()ing to /dev/binder that's all i can say and that ioctl takes a while" |
| 19:58.31 | stinebd | well it's still likely that whichever process it's trying to communicate with is the actual problem |
| 19:58.42 | stinebd | which is what will make debugging it a pain |
| 19:59.34 | bzo | it may be something to do with location |
| 19:59.45 | bzo | when I start a location app like places, it seems to clear it up |
| 20:00.05 | bzo | I saw an old android bug about it which is what gave me the idea to try it |
| 20:00.22 | stinebd | driver issue? |
| 20:00.40 | stinebd | if it's a provider issue, we might not be able to do anything |
| 20:00.47 | stinebd | since that's all google bits |
| 20:01.08 | bzo | no clue |
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| 20:07.40 | gauner19861 | hi |
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| 20:21.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey doods |
| 20:22.10 | bzo | hey Alex |
| 20:22.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | looks like you're doing some unorthodox stuff today? |
| 20:23.08 | bzo | eh? |
| 20:23.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean pushing 35 fb to our 'mainline' |
| 20:23.57 | stinebd | emwe did it! |
| 20:24.00 | bzo | not I, you can credit/blame [acl] |
| 20:24.08 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sup bro |
| 20:24.11 | [acl] | question for you |
| 20:24.22 | [acl] | before i commit your clocks .. |
| 20:24.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | looks like i have no chance to merge my tree into 'mainline'. damn, i want my usb and kovsky board to be pushed. or better, all my repo to be merged so i can sleep at night |
| 20:24.40 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: clk set rate.. ddi you look into it ? |
| 20:25.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: not really.. except for adding vfe clock. i still believe our clocks are fucked a bit, because the generated register values differ from wince.. maybe adjusting them will save some power. but since everything works i am not touching that anymore |
| 20:26.23 | [acl] | hmm |
| 20:26.56 | gauner19861 | too many !leodevs here :D |
| 20:27.01 | gauner19861 | hey johnsheridan |
| 20:27.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: actually i may look into amss and jbruneaux stuff to further upgrade them, but i don't want to waste my time. i'll be only working on camera and nand.. cause this project takes too much time and i want to invest that time into learning quite other stuffs |
| 20:28.07 | [acl] | ahh |
| 20:28.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: a question to you. will you kill me if i rewrite our init code in C and rearrange the mounting scheme? i am sick to death that xdandroid takes some five minutes to boot, while neopeek and the rest boot in under one minute |
| 20:28.24 | bzo | Alex[sp3dev] btw, did you get the email I forwarded you from jbruneaux |
| 20:28.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | bzo: yep |
| 20:29.03 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: why c? |
| 20:29.03 | [acl] | neopoop |
| 20:29.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: why bash? |
| 20:29.31 | stinebd | because you don't have to gcc it. |
| 20:29.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: ok, my current plans are to write a v4l driver for camera, nand bootloader and move to SHR |
| 20:30.25 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: just make room for clk-set rate some where in there :-p |
| 20:30.38 | [acl] | so we can natively use the .35 code without modding the damn regs by hand |
| 20:30.41 | [acl] | :-D |
| 20:30.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: ahh, you mean the panel code.. |
| 20:31.03 | [acl] | yeah |
| 20:31.15 | JohnSheridan | hey |
| 20:31.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | you know.. i think it is fundamentally wrong to calculate the clocks. the correct solution is to hardcode them and to never change the rate of the pll they are derived from |
| 20:31.48 | [acl] | im not a big fan of neopeek so discussing his build should be banned :-p |
| 20:32.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: not that i like him much, but xdandroid is slooooow |
| 20:32.28 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: but like i said why neopeek when you can go straight cyanogen |
| 20:32.39 | [acl] | its like settling for the ugly sister when you can go for the hot one |
| 20:33.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: why cyanogen when you can go shr? it is like having sex with a guy when you can do it with a girl |
| 20:33.27 | stinebd | maybe we shouldn't be referring to cyanogen as a woman while he's sitting in here |
| 20:34.02 | [acl] | LOL |
| 20:34.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | stop that. android is gay, cyanogen is not (i hope so) |
| 20:34.35 | bzo | yeah, but can you get angry birds for shr? (jk jk) |
| 20:34.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | bzo: yep, grab it from n900's maemo? |
| 20:35.16 | bzo | damn, a lack would have been a plus |
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| 20:35.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: are we going gingershit? |
| 20:35.32 | [acl] | i dunno.. to each their own. I'm not involved in android itself so as long as the kernel is kosher we can do as we wish with userland |
| 20:35.39 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: hopefully |
| 20:36.02 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: shit bro what kinda fps are you getting now on the xperia ? |
| 20:36.06 | stinebd | we'll have to wait until it's actually pushed though |
| 20:36.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: never tested. but i think overclocking panel is sooo wrong.. in winmo it just works |
| 20:36.38 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i hate over clocking anything |
| 20:36.49 | stinebd | +1 |
| 20:36.51 | [acl] | but with our new .35 fb we can rip 30fps 2d. |
| 20:36.58 | [acl] | but we thing its a limit on the panel |
| 20:37.08 | [acl] | since u have a diff panel, then you shouldnt be limited like rhod and topa |
| 20:37.13 | [acl] | so this is why im asking |
| 20:37.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: at least, the base.git is now at gingerbread. hopefully the other code will be dumped soon |
| 20:37.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: note that blac and raph800 have exactly the same display chip as xperia |
| 20:38.06 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: hmm.. forgot about that. I should test on the raph800 tonight |
| 20:38.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: how about writing init code for it? |
| 20:38.26 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: the pushes are long and painful. probably going to take hours. |
| 20:38.55 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: init code ? im worried about rhod man.. we finally got the mddi init running |
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| 20:39.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | and now.. i summon GNUtoo|laptop here.. |
| 20:39.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi |
| 20:39.28 | [acl] | lol |
| 20:39.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: which kind of x11 driver are you using on dream? |
| 20:39.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | xf86-video-fbdev |
| 20:39.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | does the CA one work? |
| 20:40.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | xf86-video-msm had no real improvements for that machine(it may for qsd ones) |
| 20:40.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | someone made a recent xf86-video-msm work on a dell streak |
| 20:40.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | in #meego-arm |
| 20:40.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | I don't remember who |
| 20:40.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll look in the logs |
| 20:41.02 | [acl] | anyways fellas .. gotta go .. |
| 20:41.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok.. is fbdev very slow? maybe android surfaceflinger can help us? i just wonder whether it will be slow or usable |
| 20:41.09 | GNUtoo|laptop | dcordes, might now better this stuff |
| 20:41.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | fawk, he quit |
| 20:41.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 20:41.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | wanted to tell him to merge my tree ;) |
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| 20:42.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe he'll come bac? |
| 20:42.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | *back |
| 20:42.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: which software are you using for gps? something openstreetmap-based? |
| 20:43.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | many |
| 20:43.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | navit |
| 20:43.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | tangogps |
| 20:43.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | under SHR all works |
| 20:43.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically /dev/smd27 is NMEA |
| 20:43.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | I just had to integrate the activator |
| 20:43.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: did you move phh's library to kernel? |
| 20:43.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | using system like call in python |
| 20:44.00 | GNUtoo|laptop | no |
| 20:44.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | I did something quick and dirty |
| 20:44.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | in python(ogpsd is in python) |
| 20:44.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | now i wonder what is better - move it to kernel and make it emulate a tty, or emulate the tty in userspace |
| 20:44.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | I also did a vala dbus activator |
| 20:44.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's already a tty |
| 20:44.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | you just need to activate the device |
| 20:44.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | that's a |
| 20:44.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | *that's all |
| 20:44.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean a *proper one*, that will not shit bricks if you don't activate it |
| 20:44.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | plain NMEA |
| 20:45.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 20:45.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 20:45.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe a sys node? |
| 20:45.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | for activation? |
| 20:46.00 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes |
| 20:46.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | we can abuse rfkill ;) |
| 20:46.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | lol |
| 20:46.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | could be an idea |
| 20:46.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think we will need to wikify the list of the goals. i mean, design everything before implementing |
| 20:47.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | i hope i can start working on it all in two weeks. then hopefully other guys that are now studying will join |
| 20:48.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | what phone was it already? |
| 20:48.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | what do you mean by already? |
| 20:48.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | by I don't remember |
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| 20:48.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | s/by/I meant/ |
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| 20:50.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok. see you.. hopefully i'll have some results to report next time |
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| 20:58.56 | MN2 | hi johnsheridan, gauner |
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| 21:06.07 | Curious_ | I don't know what markinus did but since the latest commit, I can't get the current drainage any less than 65ma in stand by |
| 21:06.16 | Curious_ | no 3g no wifi, nothing |
| 21:06.57 | Curious_ | gonna disable wlan n and try again |
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| 21:07.49 | JohnSheridan | it's why git development sucks :) |
| 21:08.11 | Curious_ | i believe it so sometimes |
| 21:08.38 | Curious_ | but the average benefit is positive, i believe :D |
| 21:11.19 | Curious_ | oh, for the notice, individual development also sucks ! |
| 21:11.49 | Curious_ | especially when it is CLOSED source |
| 21:12.10 | JohnSheridan | don't think so... :) |
| 21:12.25 | Curious_ | it is obvious that you don't think so ! |
| 21:12.30 | JohnSheridan | maybe both bad |
| 21:12.57 | Curious_ | but it may go further if someone else contributed! |
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| 21:14.51 | Bally3 | anyone seen markinus on here today? |
| 21:21.09 | Curious_ | he is dead |
| 21:21.37 | Curious_ | haven't you read the news |
| 21:21.51 | JohnSheridan | yeah... car killed him :( |
| 21:22.30 | Curious_ | his wife stabbed him with a knife 7 times because of the fact that he doesn't pay enough attention to her even if they are new couples! |
| 21:22.39 | Curious_ | gonna try to find the link of the news |
| 21:22.48 | Curious_ | wait a min |
| 21:22.52 | JohnSheridan | ow |
| 21:22.56 | JohnSheridan | no |
| 21:23.18 | Bally3 | Damn.. that was damn inconsiderate of her |
| 21:23.43 | JohnSheridan | I heard big green robot killed him at night with twisted pair |
| 21:23.58 | Bally3 | so no |
| 21:24.15 | JohnSheridan | :D |
| 21:24.22 | JohnSheridan | it was joke ofcourse dude |
| 21:24.24 | Curious_ | according to news while stabbing him, she yelled him as "why did you marry me!? you could've married with your phones and geeks!" |
| 21:24.42 | JohnSheridan | cockpro this is true :D |
| 21:24.43 | Bally3 | she was right of course |
| 21:24.47 | JohnSheridan | agree with u |
| 21:24.48 | Curious_ | ah i found the link |
| 21:24.49 | Curious_ | http://www.itusozluk.com/img.php/b7592b343f8ede85c3e1953134732e3223749/nah+i%FEareti |
| 21:25.11 | Curious_ | another source : http://www.resimresim.com/data/media/115/msn_nah_avatarlari.jpg |
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| 21:27.10 | Bally3 | darn.. for a minute I thought you were pointing me to the news story :o |
| 21:27.29 | Curious_ | LoL |
| 21:27.41 | Curious_ | but the above story may come true :) |
| 21:29.34 | Bally3 | heres hoping not.. aforementioned phone geeks need tg01 stuff doing lol |
| 21:30.03 | Bally3 | btw, do you know what the make of the bluetooth is on hd2? |
| 21:30.21 | Bally3 | struggling to find tg01 bt make |
| 21:31.13 | JohnSheridan | what u mean? |
| 21:31.57 | Bally3 | the manufacturer of the bt chip |
| 21:32.19 | Curious_ | broadcom |
| 21:32.25 | Curious_ | it is bcm4329 |
| 21:32.32 | Bally3 | we're trying to identify all the bits that dont work as yet.. camera is proprietry it appears |
| 21:32.46 | JohnSheridan | standard should be |
| 21:33.01 | Bally3 | ooh thanks.. the toshiba regza has that.. so hoping tg01 does too |
| 21:33.17 | Bally3 | cheers :) |
| 21:33.47 | JohnSheridan | 3mpx therE? |
| 21:34.42 | Bally3 | yup |
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| 21:39.41 | WisTilt2 | phh, [acl]: speakerphone mic fix patch in your mailboxes. |
| 21:39.56 | stinebd | wow WisTilt2 is here! |
| 21:40.06 | WisTilt2 | hiya stinebd |
| 21:40.10 | stinebd | WisTilt2: too much turkey for thanksgiving? |
| 21:40.58 | WisTilt2 | lol, no...wife and i decided at the last moment after thanksgiving to take off for 3 weeks on vacation before the holiday rush. just back yesterday. |
| 21:41.07 | stinebd | ooh nice |
| 21:42.10 | WisTilt2 | back into this project now. just submitted speakerphone mic fix, then going to work on that panel init for haret i guess. |
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| 21:43.32 | Curious_ | gn8 |
| 21:43.59 | NeoMatrixJR | dang...all these updates and the auto-builders are down |
| 21:44.01 | NeoMatrixJR | :( |
| 21:44.04 | Curious_ | Johnsheridan, we would like to hear some progress you know. |
| 21:44.10 | Curious_ | hope there will be something soon .. |
| 21:44.20 | JohnSheridan | u right |
| 21:46.06 | Bally3 | ET8EE6-AS module is made by toshiba and is a 3.2mpx camera module thats used in the nokia n73 and other phones |
| 21:47.05 | JohnSheridan | u sure? I don't think Toshiba make own sensors |
| 21:49.45 | Bally3 | Im searching for the post where someone showed the camera module seperated and we took it from there.. but it was a while ago, it would be great if it isnt the case tbh.. if its propriatery we may never get camera on tg01 |
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| 21:52.01 | Bally3 | http://www.toshiba.com/taec/news/press_releases/2006/wrls_06_445.jsp |
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| 22:00.03 | Curious_ | CONFIRMED: wlan n option drains too much battery |
| 22:00.06 | Curious_ | i turned it off and |
| 22:00.15 | Curious_ | in sleep i get around 10mA now |
| 22:00.18 | Curious_ | instead of 60-70mA |
| 22:00.41 | Curious_ | and of course in both cases the WLAN was turned off |
| 22:00.44 | Curious_ | how can that be possible |
| 22:01.06 | Curious_ | while wlan is turned off in both cases, how can "N" option effect the battery drain |
| 22:02.00 | Curious_ | is wlan driver defective such that it allows to power up wlan N option even if I don't enable WLAN in android |
| 22:03.23 | XirXes | doesnt the leo have the same wifi chip as the vision |
| 22:03.25 | WisTilt2 | curious: how are you measuring that drain? did you put an meter in-line with battery or using some kind of software polling? |
| 22:03.35 | Curious_ | it is bcm4329 |
| 22:03.38 | Curious_ | i dunno what vision has |
| 22:04.47 | Curious_ | but obviously the driver has defective N option for Leo |
| 22:05.35 | XirXes | yeah im pretty sure the vision has the bcm4329 |
| 22:06.27 | Curious_ | Johnsheridan, you wrote board-htcleo-wifi |
| 22:06.39 | Curious_ | check it out if you have time |
| 22:10.22 | crawling | laterz |
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