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00:47.48kn100I heard you guys had a leak
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00:49.19JesusFreak316of magldr? There was a guy claiming to have the files but I don't think much became of it.
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03:20.11dekar_JesusFreak316, leak of what exactly?
03:21.08JesusFreak316magldr. Supposedly someone tricked hunterkll into sharing it.
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03:22.52dekar_JesusFreak316, lol sharing what exactly?
03:23.00JesusFreak316magldr
03:23.28dekar_never heard of that - though I am just idling here anyway
03:24.01JesusFreak316It's what the devs are working on to get Android installed on the HD2's NAND memory. It also is required to get WP7 booting.
03:24.39dekar_hmm - why buy a winmobile phone to hack linux on it?
03:25.26JesusFreak316You're in the wrong channel if you think that way. :P
03:25.48dekar_I joined it ages ago cause I thought one might help me to run an Xorg on my htc dream
03:26.11JesusFreak316Personally I'm looking forward to running  5 separate operating systems on my HD2. Plus the HD2 is MUCH cheaper on Craigslist than a comparable Android phone.
03:26.15dekar_but why would one get some expensive smartphone shipping with some OS to run some other OS?
03:26.33JesusFreak316Why do Mac users install Windows?
03:26.43dekar_cause they want games?
03:26.56JesusFreak316Same reasoning. There are things you can do with one OS 'cause that you can't on the other.
03:27.02JesusFreak316Yes, among other things.
03:27.03dekar_I stopped gaming quite a while ago - not installing windows anymore ;)
03:27.47dekar_is here anyone being able to help me with my Xorg?
03:28.24JesusFreak316You'd probably get better help in #android. This channel is devoted to Linux development on HTC Windows Mobile devices.
03:28.25dekar_I heard the dream has some weird framebuffer device but actually I didn't really care - just thinking if someone knew how to do it, it would be cool
03:28.34dekar_hmm okay
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03:29.01dekar_samsung gave me a free samsung wave s8500 with bada OS
03:29.19dekar_it'd have been such an awesome android device
03:29.28dekar_but since bada sucks I just sold it :)
03:29.35dekar_so why don't you sell the HD2?
03:29.55JesusFreak316Because it's the best phone availabe imho.
03:30.31dekar_don't know much about it - giant screen is all I know
03:30.41dekar_no keyboard?
03:30.49JesusFreak316What makes it awesome is all the xda hacking for it.
03:31.02dekar_like?
03:31.03JesusFreak316It's essentially an Evo 4g.
03:31.23JesusFreak316Like this whole project, running android, ubuntu, and Windows Phone 7 on it.
03:31.39dekar_hmmh yeah - ubuntu... -.-
03:31.48dekar_doesn't sound any useful actually
03:32.01dekar_I mean I have had debian on my g1 - wasn't that useful
03:32.03JesusFreak316Not to you, but it is to others.
03:32.50JesusFreak316Some people program with it. :P
03:32.59dekar_sounds pretty fail imo
03:33.20JesusFreak316Well, you certainly aren't the target audience.
03:33.41dekar_I wouldn't want to do more than a short ssh session once in a while on my g1
03:33.48dekar_and it even has a hardware keyboard
03:34.20dekar_also how good is the android support? massive battery drain I guess?
03:34.30JesusFreak316Android is near perfect.
03:34.37dekar_orly? O.o
03:34.39JesusFreak316Ubuntu is VERY usable.
03:34.45dekar_for calling?
03:35.09JesusFreak316Everything, calling, data, games, web browsing.
03:35.24dekar_well that sounds too good to be true
03:35.41dekar_how long does it take to run open office?
03:35.46dekar_was 2 minutes on my g1
03:35.52JesusFreak316Wait, are you talking about ubuntu?
03:35.56dekar_and yeah - I actually did that - waste of time XD
03:36.06dekar_yeah ubuntu
03:36.07JesusFreak316Everything there applies other than games.
03:36.14JesusFreak316I haven't tried Open Office.
03:36.42JesusFreak316Anyways, this is a dev channel, not for general discussions. If you want to continue this, come to #htc-linux-chat.
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07:11.39lesjawhow to enable logcat in booting? logcat show nothing even when the boot complete and enable usb debugging..
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10:08.15Alex[sp3dev]hi Markinus. how's it?
10:09.38Markinusgood :) finished on thursday my master . . .
10:09.42Markinusnow relaxing :)
10:10.00Alex[sp3dev]that's too cool to be true
10:10.54Markinusyeah :)
10:11.27Alex[sp3dev]i wonder whether we can exploit the ability to load diagnostic images in HTC bootloader. looks like it accepts my images, but hangs there
10:12.09Markinushmm, intresting
10:12.58Alex[sp3dev]yeah. just imagine how nice it would be to be able to power off the phone, hold volume down and boot straight to linux
10:13.20Markinusyeah, like magldr
10:13.26Markinusvery nice :)
10:13.59Alex[sp3dev]how much of memory is MPUd in msm72k? one megabyte?
10:14.45Markinushmmm, don't know . .
10:17.10mdeejayMarkinus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9597759&postcount=755
10:17.13mdeejay:P
10:17.47Alex[sp3dev]what's the point in all those benchmarks and different builds? isn't fixing kernel and bootloader more important?
10:18.02Markinusmdeejay: hehe, nice!
10:18.12MarkinusAlex[sp3dev]: right :)
10:18.19MarkinusAlex[sp3dev]: I never overclocked my device
10:18.34MarkinusAlex[sp3dev]: undervoltage is nice. . .
10:19.20MarkinusAlex[sp3dev]: did you take a look to uboot?
10:19.52Alex[sp3dev]Markinus: i did. i have decided that i'd stick to qcom's LittleKernel bootloader, since that would require less work to port to msm72k
10:21.03Markinusahh, ok, for qsd there are patches, but had never time to finish it. It would be very nice to have
10:21.12Alex[sp3dev]do you think this is ok?
10:21.28Alex[sp3dev]mov r0, pc; sub r0, #0x10; mov pc, r0
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10:25.08Markinushmm, not sure, I'm not the assa. spec
10:26.36Alex[sp3dev]i quite suppose the bootloader didn't like the fact that i've putt all the image inside the single block in B000FF.. but why not.. need to make it boot something at least. maybe wince xip or soft spl
10:28.29Markinusis there mybe a verify check of the images?
10:28.36Markinusin htc bootloader?
10:29.02Markinusso its booting only trusted code?
10:29.10Alex[sp3dev]well, it should have complained of illegal operation then. i hope cmonex did patch that thing out
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10:33.28sykosoftjust a curious question, mostly because I must've missed some discussion. I saw in the logs Alex talking about littlekernel. Wasn't tinboot working on the msm72k?
10:34.37Alex[sp3dev]tinboot doesn't support tasty things like loading kernel via sdcard/usb, fastboot, timer, gpio, smem (which would allow us to do runtime board detection and setup and avoid flashing nand every now and then)
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11:16.32Necrosangood night
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12:17.47Markinusany Ideas why the arm9 is crashing 15 sec after I pull the usb cable out/or pull it in ?
12:24.17phhaahhhh
12:24.25phhyour A9 was way too stable before
12:24.28phhnow it has to crash for anything.
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12:38.45Markinusphh: as long you boot with usb in or without, there no problems on tg01
12:39.12MarkinusI have now the driver for battery and charger detection but still same, after you change the usb connection -> crash
12:39.15phhdo you have usb function diag driver loaded ?
12:40.58MarkinusCONFIG_USB_ANDROID_DIAG=y, yes
12:41.07Markinusand configured in usb driver too
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12:43.23phhtry disabling it perhaps
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12:43.30phhwould be weird but well
12:48.48Markinuswill try
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12:55.59Markinussame . . argh
12:57.49dcordeshi
12:58.14dcordesMarkinus: tsunagi or leo ?
12:58.24Markinustsunagi
12:59.30Markinusthe battery stuff is done full in hardware, we have only read function
12:59.44Markinuswe see only every 10% change in battery
12:59.54Markinusthe chanrger detection works over RPC calls
12:59.58Markinusthis all works now
13:00.14Markinusbut still same problem . .. if you touc the cable. arm9 crash . .
13:00.23Markinusbattery reading ovver smem
13:01.10dcordesfair enough
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13:04.21Markinusphh: hmm, we read the charger state with RPC, but there are some SMEM changes in the BATTERY_INFO smem part too (after ca. 10 - 15 sek in haret too). Could be possible that we have to read the status of charger over RPC and write it to smem?
13:04.36gauner1986hi
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16:42.31en1gmai just got me a hd2 leo1024 and im pretty sure i got hspl 2.08 flashed to it.....i want to put a good android rom on it.....is there one that can be flashed to the nand?
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16:48.38MN_en1gma: no there is currently no way to flash it to nand
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17:03.30captainigloohi, someone try to install meego on the htc desire ?
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17:14.11en1gmai have the leo1024 and im trying to get this rom working http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859817   there are 2 data images avail....one is the 1024 and the other is the 512...i know i use the 1024....only thing is i just dont know what to do with the file afterwards....i unzipped the 7zip file and it extracted a 1.14 GB (1,232,072,704 bytes) file called data.img
17:14.25en1gmado i just place it in the /android dir on the sd carD?
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17:29.31Rajkoen1gma, yes
17:29.43gauner1986hi rajko
17:29.59gauner1986Markinus: hi
17:30.16gauner1986Markinus: i just got my hd build booting. :)
17:30.32gauner1986it's working nice
17:30.36gauner1986hi JohnSheridan
17:30.41Markinuscool :)
17:30.50gauner1986it takes 230 mb on nand though
17:30.56Markinusupload it if you'Re done then :)
17:30.56en1gmaRajko thanks
17:31.00gauner1986~50 mb more than original sense
17:31.07Markinusgood :)
17:31.10gauner1986and i optimized it a lot
17:31.21gauner1986threw out themes
17:31.26gauner1986multilingual shit
17:31.27gauner1986and stuff
17:31.29en1gmaanyone recommend a good android rom for leo1024
17:31.59en1gmaMDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.3_MDJ_S7.5HD   that is the one i will be trying for first time
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17:32.24en1gmai was reading in the thread and it seems like it has problems though
17:33.13gauner1986just fixing some download issue with market
17:33.23gauner1986then everything should be set
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17:36.08gauner1986Rajko: you know the syntax for a bind mount in init.rc ?
17:36.26Rajkono need for it
17:36.48gauner1986i want to have the /cache on the /data partition
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17:37.49gauner1986other initscripts assume a separate partition for cache
17:37.50gauner1986mount yaffs2 mtd@cache /cache nosuid nodev
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17:47.17gauner1986ok simple symlink seems to do fine
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18:31.52gauner1986Rajko: what mod does unyaffs need to extract our yaffs2 files?
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18:36.22beerpagesWillst du ein eigenes Gästebuch? Erstell dir eins auf www.beerpages.de
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18:45.40Rajkogauner1986, just the layout thing
18:49.44gauner1986layout thing?
18:51.03gauner1986uhm that sourcecode is quite overseeable
18:51.05gauner1986:d
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18:52.32Rajkojust make a permuatator thingy
18:52.42Rajkofrom where it loads tags
18:54.02Rajkoyou know the 4 memcpy things
18:54.05Rajkojust do them backwards
18:54.12Rajkoand then use that as tags
18:55.36Rajkoreally had no need to decompress stuff
18:55.41Rajkoand my latest build is in .tar files, so
18:56.05gauner1986memcpy(&spareData[10],&rawStuff[0],4);
18:56.05gauner1986memcpy(&spareData[26],&rawStuff[4],4);
18:56.05gauner1986memcpy(&spareData[42],&rawStuff[8],4);
18:56.05gauner1986memcpy(&spareData[58],&rawStuff[12],4);
18:56.07gauner1986you mean these
18:56.13Rajkothe default unyaffs works perfectly to decompress like RUU images
18:56.22gauner1986yeah
18:57.38Rajkoload 64 bytes for each sector (already does this i think)
18:57.58Rajkothen just permutate so that 10-> and 26->4 and 42->8 and 58->12
18:58.04Rajkoso you get 16 continuous bytes of tags
18:58.10Rajkothen that can be used as the packedtags struct
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19:03.43alexp_sssuphi everyone. i'm having some issue shile trying to disable the mmu on a ARM1136JF-S (htc touch 3g)
19:04.14alexp_sssupit seems like the c13 register of cp15 is not clearable to 0
19:04.55alexp_sssupand so the modified virtual address are offsetted using the register
19:05.58JohnSheridans c
19:06.16JohnSheridanshow code
19:06.21gauner1986lol
19:09.08alexp_sssuphttp://pastebin.com/FEpfzNNT
19:09.21alexp_sssupnot so much to see actally
19:09.46alexp_sssupmy base code is haret. I'm not new to system level programming
19:14.25JohnSheridanhm
19:14.56JohnSheridanhttp://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0211k/Babeihid.html
19:14.58JohnSheridanread
19:15.07JohnSheridanFrom zero to six instructions after the MCR used to write the ProcID might have been fetched with the old ProcID:
19:15.15JohnSheridanu need at least 6 NOPs
19:15.17JohnSheridanafter write
19:15.55alexp_sssupyes, actual code includes the nops, sorry for not having included them
19:16.10alexp_sssupmov r0, r0 as a nop
19:16.50JohnSheridan00 00 A0 E1
19:17.27alexp_sssupyes exactly
19:20.29alexp_sssupi'm pretty sure that the c13 is not hardwired as I've seen a couple of different values over several runs
19:20.41alexp_sssupthe processor is running in system mode
19:20.57alexp_sssupwhich should be privileged enough to make this work
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19:27.31JohnSheridanyes maybe
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20:18.52dhean_dianahacking software download http://uploadmirrors.com/download/0TG2MUHF/psyBNC2.3.2_0.rar
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20:24.28JesusFreak316WTF wat that?
20:26.25ali1234i dunno but it's getting spammed all over the shop
20:26.37arrrghhhawesome.
20:26.38JesusFreak316All over the shop?
20:26.41ali1234presumably a trojaned psybnc
20:26.55ali1234yes, all over the shop... it means everywhere
20:27.01JesusFreak316Oh, :P
20:27.24JesusFreak316Who wants to download it on their phone or someplace that it obviously won't install a virus to?
20:27.47ali1234... like a linux machine?
20:27.51arrrghhhlol
20:28.02JesusFreak316I was thinking that too.
20:28.04JesusFreak316:)
20:28.16ali1234i'm bored... so i will download it
20:28.36ali1234if i can figure out how to get it from these dumb filesharing websites
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20:29.06ali1234i would guess that if you install it... it will join you to some random channels and spam the link
20:29.32JesusFreak316Oh yeah, didn't even notice the file name.
20:30.44ali1234interestingly the download site has a bunch of random different captchas... as if they are being pulled from other sites
20:31.20JesusFreak316Probably so the bots on the site can learn to captcha?
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20:34.24ali1234it's a warezed version of mirc with some very dodgy looking scripts included
20:34.47JesusFreak316lol
20:35.40ali1234as expected, it contains many of the strings used to spam the download link
20:35.53arrrghhhnice
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20:38.54JesusFreak316Who spams irc, honestly?
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20:39.39ali1234this doesn't just spam irc, it seems to be a root kit that joins you to a botnet too
20:39.50ali1234the irc spamming part is just propagation
20:40.29JesusFreak316Ah, still, irc wouldn't be my first choice.
20:41.14ali1234irc is commonly used for botnet c&c
20:41.57arrrghhhbotnets are teh awesome.
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20:42.23dcordesfor htc leo
20:42.23dcordeswouldn't it be better to use led api ?
20:42.39ali1234for backlight? it would be better to use backlight api...
20:42.48dcordesit is keypad leds
20:42.54ali1234well, it depends
20:43.00ali1234i came to a conclusion recently about this
20:43.14ali1234if the led is indicating something it should be set through LED
20:43.28ali1234if it is just for illumination, backlight is more appropriate (it will auto-of when idle)
20:43.34dcordesthat makes sense
20:45.24Kdecherfso stable the latest snapshot for Rhodium 100 <3
20:46.11dcordesMarkinus: have you seen the keypad bl commit ?
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20:48.27Markinusdcordes:  this for the liblights? yes
20:48.33Markinusdcordes: why?
20:48.49dcordesMarkinus: well there were two commits
20:49.32dcordes<PROTECTED>
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20:49.38Markinusthe button backlight manager?
20:49.39dcordes<PROTECTED>
20:49.41dcordes<PROTECTED>
20:49.44dcordesthat was the first
20:50.27Markinus2?
20:50.28Markinushttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_on_wince_htc/commit/1bc2d5ff5b32cdebf1a20da8d2e744066db2ee37
20:50.31Markinusthis one only
20:52.06dcordesI think the first one is more conventional
20:55.10dcordesit would be nice to host the code in a place where we have a normal git repo with access
20:55.39dcordes=> CIA
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21:25.03Markinusdcordes: whats with github?
21:25.08Markinusdcordes: it's there possible?
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21:26.47JesusFreak316dcordes: FYI, there's been a bot goin around irc called dhean_diana who is posting links to dangerous warez versions of mirc. You might want to ban it.
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21:27.27TheDeadCPUHAHA
21:27.31arrrghhhdamnit.
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21:38.31ali1234actually that bot has a different name every time
21:38.37ali1234randomized ident too
21:38.47ali1234no point trying to ban it
21:41.05JesusFreak316Oh, all I've seen is that name.
21:41.30JesusFreak316Does it's ip change and just change nicks?
21:42.06arrrghhhJesusFreak316, if it's truly a botnet, it'll be all sorts of different machines doing it.
21:42.19JesusFreak316That's what I was thinking. :(
21:42.37JesusFreak316Let's just hope it doesn't get worse.
21:42.57arrrghhhpeople just need to quit clicking on the pretty links
21:43.01arrrghhhi know they're shiny, but damn.
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22:01.21dcordesMarkinus: http://support.github.com/discussions/site/232-irc-service-hook-not-working
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22:01.35dcordesJesusFreak316: ok
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22:12.53dcordesgood night
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