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00:17.31nylhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850882
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00:32.42Aevumthe 8.5 kernel is decent
00:32.58Aevumi still dont get any vibration from my phone
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01:27.30XirXes~seen wistilt2
01:27.41aptwistilt2 <~wisgreg@wireless251.wirelesstcp.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 5h 35m 1s ago, saying: 'ok guys i'm out of here again.  Have a great thanksgiving and catch you all next week!'.
01:27.56arrrghhhhe was HERE man
01:28.02XirXeslol
01:28.05XirXesI wasn
01:28.08arrrghhhi know.
01:28.15arrrghhhdidn't really do much, he was just checkin in.
01:28.22XirXeswell damn
01:29.36arrrghhhyea
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01:29.59Curious_We want our Markinus back for Leo!
01:30.01arrrghhhhe'll be back next week tho it seems.  he was on a long business trip.  read the logs :P
01:30.08arrrghhhCurious_, you guys have enough, stfu :P
01:30.16Curious_no
01:30.36Curious_leo needs attention, care
01:30.42XirXesi plan on it
01:30.57ocmit needs tender love and care
01:31.09arrrghhhlol
01:31.17arrrghhhyou guys have a nearly-complete port.
01:31.19Curious_yes and it needs magldr
01:31.23arrrghhhi mean is there anything left other than a public magldr?
01:31.32Curious_yes there is
01:31.34arrrghhhor public nand in any form.
01:32.14Curious_lights, i2c errors, magldr, gsensor calibration, 720p cam,
01:32.14arrrghhhwhat's left?
01:32.19arrrghhhah
01:32.36arrrghhhlights?  like button lights?
01:32.40Cassfixed
01:32.44Cassmaybe P
01:32.45Curious_correctly working liblights
01:32.52arrrghhhhuh
01:32.52Curious_waiting for dan1j3l
01:33.03Cassdan may have anounce later on that
01:33.15Curious_let's hope so
01:33.37Casshe complete tonight and test then sleep . had smiley so good news maybe
01:33.40Curious_i wouldn't mind lights but others are important
01:33.46Curious_maybe
01:33.54arrrghhhlol
01:34.01Curious_where the genius
01:34.07Curious_apt: ~Rajko
01:34.08arrrghhhyou guys went from 0 to nearly complete in a fraction of the time of any other device.
01:34.40Cass0 = perfect ?
01:34.56arrrghhh0 = no android :P
01:34.58XirXes0 = winmo
01:35.01arrrghhhindeed
01:35.03Cassahh
01:35.15arrrghhhyou can't go from perfect to nearly complete can you?  lol
01:35.19arrrghhhthat's a step backwards.
01:35.20Curious_yes, I guess it was due to being resolute and left with a device that is capable of more
01:35.26Cass0 = im drunk right now and can hardly read  .. ill piss off :P
01:35.29arrrghhhhahaha
01:35.44arrrghhheh that and the device is basically identical to a ton of native android devices.
01:35.47Curious_i sweared HTC so much
01:35.47arrrghhhmight've helped a little :P
01:35.54Curious_yes
01:36.08Curious_but still, most of the drivers are RE'ed
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01:36.20Curious_Cotulla did nice job
01:36.23Curious_about drivers
01:36.38arrrghhhyea
01:36.47arrrghhhthat he did
01:36.51Curious_btw, i forgot rmnet
01:37.07Curious_that needs to be fixed too
01:37.12arrrghhhtoo bad the stupid tp2 has such paltry hardware.  i'd like to get some coutella RE love :P
01:37.15arrrghhhoh yea.
01:37.22arrrghhhthe dreaded rmnet ;)
01:37.35Casshope fixed in 1.09
01:37.40Curious_hope so
01:37.45Curious_i was about to buy tp2 nearly
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01:37.48Cassgave some love anyway
01:37.57Curious_then i said pay more get more
01:37.58Curious_:D
01:38.31arrrghhheh, i love having a physical kbd.  i think that's basically the only reason i'm clinging to this outdated hardware :P
01:39.13Curious_if it would be thin....
01:39.36arrrghhheh the size doesn't bother me.
01:39.44Curious_heh, cotulla updated his twitter
01:39.47arrrghhhthe slow ass processor sucks, and the ramd is a little small.
01:39.48arrrghhhnice
01:40.02Curious_wp7 works with gsm gprs camera gsensor usb sd bt wlan
01:40.40Curious_f*ck! android port wasn't that fast. I wasn't expecting the drivers to match this much
01:40.42arrrghhhoh yea i saw that earlier.
01:40.44XirXesi think my robot voice issue arose because of me OCing. my phone gets warm without being oc
01:41.11XirXesand it didnt used too, lol yay phone insurance
01:41.16Curious_he sucks at english really
01:41.21Casswho ?
01:41.27Curious_cotulla :D
01:41.29arrrghhhyea well
01:41.31arrrghhhhe's russian :P
01:41.32Cassffs man .
01:41.50Curious_why would anyone try not to increase his ability..
01:41.57Cassmy english is piss poor on irc
01:41.58arrrghhhseriously?
01:42.08Curious_my english is going bad while reading him
01:42.08Cassget a life Curious_
01:42.09arrrghhhi don't think he cares TBH
01:42.14arrrghhhlol
01:42.20arrrghhhseriously.
01:42.27Curious_i dont care too but, he misplaces lots of thing
01:42.28Curious_anyway
01:43.10arrrghhhmeh
01:43.32Curious_gn8
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13:36.22lanwinhi
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13:36.47lanwinis iptables not fully impl. in the current HD2/Leo Kernels?
13:36.57gauner1986hi
13:37.02lanwinI still dose not list the active rules
13:37.10lanwinbut i am sure the are some
13:39.11gauner1986are you using the busybox version of iptables?
13:40.05lanwinnot sure
13:40.19lanwini use this one which is availabe in my current android build
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13:47.10gauner1986then do busybox iptables to be sure
13:47.55lanwingauner1986: how can i detect that? iptables --version only outputs "iptables v1.3.7"
13:48.14gauner1986just test if it does, what you want
13:50.32lanwinhmm
13:50.49lanwingauner1986: if i run iptables --list i only get this output http://pastebin.com/uZ3x5WPN
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13:54.27gauner1986and if you set a rule, does it appear there?
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13:58.52lanwingauner1986: hmm interesting it lists this rule
13:59.00lanwiniptables -A INPUT -d 10.1.15.1 -j REJECT
13:59.06lanwinbut not this rule
13:59.49lanwiniptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o rmnet0 -p 6 ! -d 139.7.29.1 -j REDIRECT --to-port 1025
14:00.14lanwinmean execute the rule and then run iptables --list
14:00.33Arash18klanwin, iptable -t nat --list
14:01.50lanwinArash18k: ah thanks that lists the rule. Is there anly way to display all what is setup?
14:02.19Arash18ku mean all tables at once?
14:02.26lanwinyep
14:03.02lanwinbtw: i do this because i have a problem that a list of rules works fine on the older RMNET based kernels, but not on the new PPP based kernels
14:04.23Arash18kidk, try man page, didnt try it before :p
14:04.37lanwinhehe
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14:20.44lanwindamn.. ok der output bei RMNET und PPP ist gleich
14:24.07lanwinsorry..the output of RMNET and PPP is the same so there it have the same ipconfig rules
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16:44.06Curious_LeTama, can you look at the audio gain of the loudspeaker?
16:44.11Curious_it is too low
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18:02.33dan1j3lhi
18:02.55gauner1986hey dan
18:03.12dan1j3lwhat's up ?
18:04.43dan1j3lhow many secs for btn backlight off ??? 10 or less ?
18:04.51gauner1986i used 10 :)
18:05.13dan1j3lthen 10.. :)
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18:05.22dan1j3lsoon test kernel
18:05.25dan1j3l:p
18:05.45gauner1986not much, university work
18:05.49gauner1986:(
18:06.26dan1j3li was all day at work, now some coding time...
18:07.24arrrghhhah i had today off :D
18:07.37gauner1986me too
18:07.39gauner1986but had to work anyway
18:07.40dan1j3llucky you :)
18:07.41arrrghhhsilly thanksgiving
18:07.45arrrghhhhehe
18:08.58dan1j3li was half-awake whole day... i think it's time for coffee..
18:09.04gauner1986haha :D
18:09.18gauner1986we have free coffee at our university :P
18:09.49arrrghhhyea, but it's probably crap.  as is the free coffee at work :P
18:10.02gauner1986hm, yeah.. pretty much
18:10.04dan1j3lhehe... i have free coffee at work too, and it's crap :D
18:10.07gauner1986but it's fine for keeping me awake
18:10.08gauner1986:D
18:17.13dan1j3ltime to test button manager :D
18:17.33gauner1986did you design it as a wrapper?
18:17.35gauner1986or in kernel?
18:18.05dan1j3lsmall kernel driver, faster and less resource hungry :)
18:18.19dan1j3land no pooling, nothing :)
18:18.26gauner1986sounds good
18:18.35gauner1986but should be configurable via sysfs or so
18:18.35gauner1986^^
18:19.48dan1j3lfor now u can enable or disable this driver via kernel config, i will add sysfs to define secs for light powering off
18:20.01gauner1986yeah, should be fine for now
18:20.29dan1j3lnow only to solve microp for autobacklight
18:20.59dan1j3ltmp solution is to enable it in kernel as default option
18:21.21dan1j3lbut then we lose manual backlight control...
18:21.29gauner1986which is not good
18:21.30gauner1986:)
18:21.37dan1j3lso it's no good either way...
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18:37.09gauner1986beh
18:37.13gauner1986cold weather sucks
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18:40.24Observer_Hello, Is there a way to get htc touch pro2 last longer with android than 4 to 5 hours ?
18:40.48gauner1986put the charger-cable in? :P
18:41.12Observer_LOL :D
18:42.29Observer_I'm from Belgium and i Noticed when trying google navigator with google maps coming from the market, there is an error saying that it's not yet available in my location. However when downloading other maps (found online) it works perfectly but, i need to disable maps from the phone first. Is there a way to disable it from startup?
18:42.38Observer_ooh weird, my phone just rebooted :D
18:43.12Observer_So many people here and no-one that talks ?
18:43.51gauner1986this is !topic
18:43.58gauner1986;)
18:44.29Observer_explain please?
18:44.32Observer_!topic
18:44.38Observer_doesn't do anything ..
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19:16.03Aevumhow do i check the messege file after a crash ?
19:16.30gauner1986ramconsole
19:17.17Aevumi keep getting these crashes where the phone just turns off
19:17.23Aevumthe led keeps on
19:17.27Aevumand i have to pull out the battery
19:17.48gauner1986do not pull the battery and use the reset button instead
19:17.56Aevumyea, i know
19:18.00gauner1986then use andlog
19:20.29Aevumwheres andlog ?
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19:20.37gauner1986http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/andlog.exe
19:21.16Aevumor where can i find some documentation as how to use it ?
19:21.34gauner1986nowhere
19:21.35gauner1986:P
19:21.55fakkerjust run it
19:21.59fakkerit makes a log
19:22.00gauner1986it writes the dmesg to the winmo root
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19:22.11fakkerhi gauner1986
19:22.14gauner1986hi fakker
19:22.16gauner1986:)
19:22.21fakkerwhats up? you got snow?
19:22.29gauner1986no.. icerain
19:22.35gauner1986still sucks
19:22.36gauner1986^^
19:22.37fakkerahh, just ice here
19:22.46fakkerit's damn cold tho, we're meant to get snow at the weekend
19:23.15gauner1986yeah, we too.. even though we're living in a very flat area
19:24.33dan1j3lhi fakker
19:24.40fakkerhi dan1j3l, how are you?
19:24.55gauner1986fakker: so how's your gf doing? :P
19:25.03dan1j3lnice, little tired and sleepy but ok...
19:25.03fakkergauner1986, ah cool - i saw the weather report this morning, and it looked like you will have quite a bit
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19:25.36gauner1986fakker: i wanted to have some fast drive at the weekend on the autobahn :(
19:25.41fakkerhaha
19:26.03fakkergauner1986, ok - i think... last night was nice though i guess
19:26.19gauner1986hm yeah.. but the bmw isn't here :(
19:29.26Aevumhmm
19:29.30Aevumwhat do i read with with
19:29.32Aevumits full of bs
19:29.47gauner1986then you probably did sth wrong
19:29.56Aevumok
19:30.21dan1j3lis andlog updated to latest kernel ramconsole mapping ?
19:30.25Aevumthen boot android and wait till it crashes again
19:30.34gauner1986dan1j3l: has it changed recently?
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19:31.09dan1j3li think not, but in beginning when cotulla make andlog we had few changes
19:31.27dan1j3lso don't know...
19:31.34gauner1986dunno.. i'm on magldr
19:31.35gauner1986^^
19:31.57dan1j3li prefer haret for now :d
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19:32.07gauner1986na.. i love it
19:32.09dan1j3lneed wince for navigation :D
19:32.16gauner1986navigation on android is fine
19:32.57dan1j3lalso i have few ubuntu/debian distros on sdcard
19:33.34dan1j3lalso with meego
19:34.17gauner1986you can still boot from sdcard
19:34.18gauner1986:)
19:35.07dan1j3li know... but lately didn't have much time to play with leo...
19:41.14dan1j3lis uploading test kernel with modules...
19:41.33gauner1986i need a diff if you want me to test. :)
19:41.47dan1j3l:p
19:42.10dan1j3lwhy :p
19:42.17gauner1986because i need yaffs stuff compiled in
19:42.30dan1j3low... :p
19:42.34dan1j3lnp
19:42.39dan1j3l:D
19:42.59gauner1986and some other things i don't want to miss
19:43.03gauner1986:P
19:44.06dan1j3lhehe... echo diff > http://pastebin.com/1yx7eDxB
19:44.42gauner1986thx
19:44.43gauner1986:)
19:44.53dan1j3lkernel and other goodies > http://htcleo.noobhands.net/dan1j3l/zImage_BtnManager_Test.tar.gz
19:45.20dan1j3lbut please read Readme in tarball
19:45.32gauner1986switching pcs..
19:45.51dan1j3lu gauner also, read Readme :D
19:46.18dan1j3lbcz everything is explained there :p
19:46.24fakkeri deserve magldr
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19:48.46gauner1986re
19:48.58dan1j3lheh, i think i deserve magldr too :p
19:49.30gauner1986you gotta ask cotulla for hat
19:49.33gauner1986*hat
19:49.36gauner1986*that
19:49.37gauner1986fu
19:49.42gauner1986my t-key is broken
19:50.16dan1j3leasy with keyboard :D
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20:00.43gauner1986dan1j3l: so we need to fix autobl now
20:00.57dan1j3lyeah... :)
20:01.36dan1j3lbtn manager is ok ?
20:02.53dan1j3li will wait day or two for user feedback before i push it to master...
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20:09.41gauner1986dan1j3l: have you found out more about notifications?
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20:11.33dan1j3lgauner1986: no, they pissed me off so i left them aside,  until i chill... :D maybe write HTC "Love-Letter" :P
20:12.37dan1j3leverything i got from wrapper is permanent green led, ALWAYS !
20:13.16gauner1986wtf
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20:42.37gauner1986i need to look at the wrapperstuff myself
20:42.38gauner1986:)
20:42.50gauner1986could you show me what you have so far?
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20:50.56dan1j3lgauner1986: knock yourself out > http://pastebin.com/thRrue5X :D
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20:54.01dan1j3lgauner1986:  your opinion for Button manager and backlight control ?
20:56.41ocmdan1j3l: about the keypad lights, wouldnt it be better to have them on while the screen is on? Instead of them enabling only when pushed?
20:56.52gauner1986no
20:56.53gauner1986:D
20:57.00dan1j3lbattery saving :D
20:57.23dan1j3lbut i will enable this option also...
20:57.44LeTamahello guys
20:57.48gauner1986hey letama
20:57.50dan1j3lhi
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20:57.58LeTamaled is negligeable no ?
20:58.04gauner1986?
20:58.09LeTamameant led consumption
20:58.27gauner1986hm
20:58.57LeTamawell, if it's an option, no big deal anyway
20:59.31ocmi really dont think that led backlight consumes that much battery
20:59.44dan1j3lleds consume low power, but anyway it's good to save battery :D
20:59.56ocmLED's dont consume much battery power, its negligable compared to what the screen consumes :p
21:01.25vegamanscreen brightness doesn't seem to make much difference from what I've seen though, just whether it's on or not
21:01.45dan1j3li will add option to turn off automatic powering off via sysfs...
21:01.59dan1j3lso everyone will be happy :D
21:02.00ocmmy point is that its nice to know what button you're going to push in the dark, it really makes no sense to light them up after you push it
21:02.07gauner1986dan1j3l: i see you already committed it
21:02.11gauner1986i'm testing now
21:02.17vegamandan1j3l, which liblights are you using now?
21:02.44dan1j3lvegaman: native qsd8k
21:03.19vegamanok :)
21:03.28dan1j3lgauner1986: no, i didn't commit this latest driver to master yet
21:03.54ocmgauner1986: what android rom are you using?
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21:05.53gauner1986ah ok, then i oversaw it
21:06.04gauner1986my own
21:06.06gauner1986evo sense
21:06.20ocmok
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21:10.51vegamanlooked through the logs from earlier, so if I take another look at porting cm-kernel http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/andlog.exe will help me get more info of where it's failing?
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21:25.55gauner1986dan1j3l: working fine so far
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