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03:03.09[acl]jonpry: dood
03:04.02[acl]is anyone actually using this framebuffer ? call me crazy.. but i cant seem to find a kernel for a device that is actually runing it
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03:28.12jonpry[acl]: yo
03:30.30AstainHellbringhiya jonolo
03:30.34AstainHellbring*jonpry
03:30.51jonpryhola
03:30.53stinebdjonpry: someone said you're mad at me about the disabling jit thing
03:31.03stinebdif so i sincerely apologize
03:31.15jonprynot really its cool you finally tracked down that bug
03:31.28jonpryi was hoping it could be fixed somehow though
03:31.49stinebdwell i'm sure it could, but i don't really have the knowledge necessary to fix it
03:32.33jonpryso you don't think its related to that android bug and patch?
03:32.45stinebdwhich?
03:33.04jonpryasking the hard questions eh
03:33.30stinebdthe fake armv6j stuff?
03:33.55AstainHellbringjonpry anything any good ever come of tearing apart that battery?
03:35.03jonprywell we know there is nothing identifiable, if that could be considered a good thing
03:35.39jonprystinebd, i'll have to look later, gtg
03:36.04stinebdok night
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04:32.39[acl]jonpry: yo.. ive been reading a bit to see if this fb is really worth it. google doesnt seem to think so.. and i cant find a device that actually uses it so i may be wasting my time
04:37.53arrrghhhi thought sammy's used 'em?
04:37.59arrrghhhhrm
04:38.18arrrghhhseems they were right about jit on our arch :P
04:40.12[acl]arrrghhh: i dont have a samsung kernel to compare.. i heard that too bu i never knew for sure
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04:43.32arrrghhhoic
04:43.52arrrghhhi've been runnin android all day, no system crashes whatsoever
04:43.56arrrghhhtook a few phone calls
04:44.11arrrghhhgps, txt... still goin strong.
04:44.15[acl]nice
04:44.17arrrghhhfrx03 is awesome.
04:44.25arrrghhhlol disabled jit.  magic.
04:44.35[acl]wow who woulda guessed
04:44.49[acl]so what was the final story then ? no jit for us ?
04:44.50arrrghhhyea, i was just trying to find that reset bug
04:44.55arrrghhhseems to be
04:45.07arrrghhhthat's another one google has marked 'unsupported' for our arch
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04:45.19[acl]arrrghhh: this will make it harder to get sense 2.2 for us then
04:45.25arrrghhhoh noes
04:45.27arrrghhhno sense
04:45.30arrrghhhmeh.
04:45.32arrrghhh:D
04:45.52[acl]ahh man.. this might explain why its ball slow too
04:45.53[acl]lol
04:45.57[acl]slower than 2.1
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04:47.15AstainHellbringsup arrrghhh
04:47.57arrrghhhy'know.  livin the dream.
04:49.46[acl]arrrghhh: i may have to call it quits on this buffer.. until google fixes it and we see mode devices with it
04:50.29[acl]November been a bad month.. no good results
04:50.32[acl]well expect no jit
04:50.33[acl]lol
04:50.35[acl]*except
04:50.52arrrghhhno worries
04:51.04arrrghhhshould i dare ask how 35 or nand goes?
04:51.12arrrghhhseems that progress has been... stagnant.
04:51.23[acl]arrrghhh: without framebuffer.. we cant move forward..
04:52.02[acl]best we can do is go .32 since i got the google framebuffer working on that.. but there was no performance gains
04:52.12[acl]Alex got it working for the Kov too so everyone can move up to .32
04:52.41[acl]but without performance gains.. whats the point ..lol
04:54.16arrrghhhyea
04:54.17arrrghhhbummer
04:54.36arrrghhhmore updated code?  hooray?
05:02.18[acl]who knows :-\
05:03.32arrrghhhwell then
05:03.42arrrghhhi guess it's just bugsquashing and nand then.
05:05.11[acl]arrrghhh: hmm.. guess google really doesnt think this fb is ready.. read this
05:05.11[acl]http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-driver-devel/2010/6/4/6885309/thread
05:06.06arrrghhhin all it's agony lol
05:06.39[acl]ok i guess this makes it official ..lol ..
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05:09.40Scrizzis punching kidneys: Gone away for now
05:10.16arrrghhhbzo will save us
05:10.45[acl]hope so ..
05:10.50bzofrom the frying pan
05:10.53bzobut into the fire
05:10.56[acl]i still think he is dzo's long lost brother
05:11.02[acl]:-p
05:11.08stinebdevil twin
05:11.10arrrghhhhaha
05:11.23bzoif I could accomplish half what dzo does ...
05:11.41[acl]bzo: im begining to think that this qualcom based framebuffer isnt worth it ..
05:12.15bzoperhaps are framebuffer is not that bad after all. Maybe it's just not setup right (clocks, etc)
05:12.18bzos/are/our
05:12.30stinebdit's definitely that bad and i hate it
05:12.42stinebdbut other framebuffers are perhaps no better
05:13.22[acl]bzo: well im running the .32 from the supersonic .. same performance..clocks are fine.. we match wince perfectly
05:14.03[acl]bzo: there are some timing variable that may need tweaking .. thats the only thing i can think of
05:14.04bzowhat is different from the case where jonpry saw the faster framebuffer?
05:14.20[acl]bzo: not sure.. that is really the only reason why i went on this quest
05:14.25stinebd.35, a needle in a haystack...
05:14.27[acl]bzo: didnt u run .35 as well
05:14.36[acl]?
05:14.46bzoif you mean mindlessly booting his kernel, yes
05:14.55bzobut it doesn't get far enough to see the speed
05:14.59[acl]ic
05:15.25bzoI think jonpry saw the speed when it was printing a bunch of errors, LOL
05:16.03[acl]lol
05:16.27bzoI think getting us unstuck from 27 is reason enough for the newer fb
05:16.38bzobut I guess the 32 framebuffer might accomplish that?
05:17.00[acl]bzo: well this is the thing.. the framebuffer jonpry is using doesnt realy on the kernel version
05:17.22[acl]its from qualcom and it hasnt been put into android..
05:17.31[acl]android runs the old framebuffer even on .35 from what i can tell
05:17.45bzoic
05:17.53[acl]so kernel version really has no correlation on the framebuffer you run
05:18.05[acl]it really all depends if you download your kernel from CA or google
05:18.20bzook, so then the init is really the big issue
05:18.33[acl]and google doesnt think very highly of the qualcom FB .. just read http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-driver-devel/2010/6/4/6885309/thread
05:18.57[acl]lol
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05:19.20bzowhat is the "dumb" mode?
05:19.30bzono hw blit or something?
05:19.34[acl]using the dummy driver
05:19.56[acl]now this was back in june.. there has been alot of updates since then
05:20.08[acl]actually .. there are still updates being done now
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05:21.10bzoman, if we could just fix the slowness I wouldnt' care what version we're using
05:21.16[acl]lol
05:21.34bzoit must be possible, the dream I'm playing with is so much faster
05:21.59[acl]dream uses google fb :-p
05:22.04[acl]always has ..
05:22.04bzobut then again, maybe it's because we're pushing 2.5x more pixels
05:22.10[acl]ahh tru
05:22.43[acl]this is the google .35 fb
05:22.44[acl]http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=tree;f=drivers/video/msm;h=d61fd8148fba4c2daa1a776b44b2a603af6bb7f9;hb=android-msm-2.6.35
05:22.52[acl]almost the same shit we run
05:23.15stinebdbzo: but then winmo would suck nuggets too
05:23.34arrrghhh...it does
05:23.42[acl]but the fb is fast
05:23.44[acl]on winmo
05:23.47[acl]surprisingly
05:23.53[acl]but then again its using full 3d
05:24.00arrrghhhindeed...
05:24.26arrrghhhi think there's still some rogue stuff running around too
05:24.54bzothe scrolling seems equally fast without 3d, i.e non-sense stuff
05:25.31stinebdright
05:25.38stinebdstart menu for instance
05:26.00bzo[acl] have you looked in depth at the fb code? Can you tell if it is coded to use any hw blitting?
05:26.00stinebdlots of icons and text and a background and it's fine
05:27.16[acl]bzo: kinda.. only when the 3d is involved
05:28.42bzoseems like that could be a limiting factor
05:29.01bzoheck, even a full computer is slow with a dumb framebuffer
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05:29.58[acl]well since our fb is old, i can definitely get it up to par with the google one. Alex also got it running on the kov so committing is possible if we work out all of our small buggs
05:30.07[acl]at least we will have more recent changes than the orginal .27
05:30.43[acl]ok ill revert back to .32 and wont mess with this other abomination then
05:31.34bzoseems sensible
05:37.27[acl]shit .. wait
05:37.35[acl]stinebd: so u sure no jit ?
05:37.50stinebd?
05:37.56[acl]sorry .. i meant arrgg
05:38.01[acl]arrrghhh: so no jit at all ?
05:39.02arrrghhhprobably would be a question for stine lol
05:39.06arrrghhhi'm pretty sure it's disabled
05:39.19arrrghhhthat int:fast command in build.prop as i understand
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05:40.11arrrghhh^^ classy
05:40.15[acl]thing is.. doesnt Cyanogen have it enabled ? for like the hero and stuff?
05:40.21[acl]hardwire wise it cant be no possible
05:40.26arrrghhhhrm
05:43.06arrrghhhit was my understanding that gooooooogle had it disabled on our arch by default
05:43.28arrrghhhso cyanogen enabled it for the hero?
05:44.03[acl]dont know.. i thought someone said it did
05:44.06[acl]maybe im confused ?
05:44.09[acl]could be.. it is kinda late
05:44.57arrrghhhlol
05:45.53[acl]but i do know for sure his kernel uses google db as well :-).. makes me feel good about my decision
05:45.56[acl]*fb
05:46.02stinebdcm has it enabled, and switchable via some app (cmparts?)
05:46.08stinebdnot sure if he has it on by default though
05:46.09[acl]dang
05:46.30stinebdthe hardware is capable (there's no reason it wouldn't be) but armv5te support is just not maintained upstream
05:47.10stinebdi was hoping the pseudo-armv6j instruction support would help but it didn't
05:48.17[acl]summbitch..
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05:57.27[acl]bzo: one big big difference is that other framebuffers control the ebil clk.. we dont..
05:57.43[acl]not sure why its needed.. but they always set a rate for ebi
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05:59.43bzoI don't think we can control ebi
05:59.59bzonot sure they can on the dream either
06:00.41bzoor if they can, it is not apparent in the clock registers
06:00.54Hunterklldream?
06:00.58Hunterkllwhy you guys workin' on dream =\
06:01.20bzowe're not
06:03.36arrrghhhcomparing haha
06:04.08[acl]im not even sure what other device we can compare to ..
06:04.14arrrghhhah well, i'm goin to bed.  g'nite guys.
06:04.18[acl]lata
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09:13.50gauner1986goodmorning
09:15.48hastaringood evening  ;)
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09:20.50manusfreedom_hi
09:21.51manusfreedom_I use your kernel hastarin, good work, do you plan to use new modification for ppp (the one from LeTama)?
09:22.57manusfreedom_the only thing that don't work for me is camera, I do'nt understand why for the moment (with the new lib)...
09:23.20manusfreedom_gauner1986: now my ppp works only 2G (not 3G), but it works
09:23.46manusfreedom_gauner1986: it's a problem with operator, all others guys are like me
09:24.13hastarinLeTama's experimenting.  I won't be making that chage just yet.
09:24.30manusfreedom_hastarin: ok
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09:40.49manusfreedom_with the 0.7 libril I get 3g :)
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09:57.35gauner1986where can i find his patch?
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09:58.30hastarinI haven't seen him post it.
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10:41.53LeTamahello guys
10:43.09LeTamamanusfreedom_, it's a bit too early to try to push the patch to any everyday kernel
10:47.13manusfreedom_LeTama: ok
10:47.33manusfreedom_LeTama: your 0.7 lib works pretty well for me
10:48.09manusfreedom_anyone know how can I get back libcameraservice.so & libcamera_client.so for nexus?
10:48.15gauner1986LeTama: so data call list was the problem?
10:48.52manusfreedom_because I replaced it in my NexusHD2-FRG83 1.6, and I don't boot anymore... :(
10:52.56LeTamagauner1986: we had multiple issues
10:53.29LeTamagauner1986: some timing problems, and yes, this pdp poll problem
10:53.52gauner1986seems it works perfectly now
10:54.24Casswe dont need kernel with 0.7 ?
10:54.41LeTamagauner1986: wrapper is doing good yes
10:55.04LeTamaCass: we still have memory problems
10:55.18Cassok
10:55.23Cassnot seen it but ok :)
10:55.30LeTamaI don't too
10:55.52LeTamaI guess it shows more on sense builds
10:56.01LeTamaand fast 3G
10:56.06Casssense :P
10:56.59LeTamathe patch I did help a little, but it still runs out of memory. It recovers better though
10:57.17Casscool
10:57.21Cassevery little help
10:57.23Casss
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11:02.23gauner1986sense <3
11:02.45LeTamahere is the patch if you want to take a look: http://home.lestamas.fr:8080/pppd_diff.zip
11:03.06LeTamahowever, the way I chuck to 2048 slows down traffic
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14:06.39PUTASpeople I have too sell htc mozart and lg maximo (windows phone 7)
14:08.04dcordes-123good for you. problem is you are announcing this in the wrong place
14:09.35gauner1986hey dcordes
14:11.24PUTASok
14:11.28PUTASalready on chat
14:11.29PUTASsorry
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15:17.37gauner1986hey markinus
15:26.38fakkerslaps gauner1986
15:26.56akiraxwhat about HD2 Android NAND sound quality?
15:27.25fakkerh2d is old news
15:27.29fakkerhd2
15:33.15gauner1986hey fakker
15:33.26gauner1986still no place for asking about nand port state
15:33.29akiraxwhy is old news?
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15:35.24akiraxwhere can i ask for hd2 NAND news?
15:35.32gauner1986not here
15:35.43gauner1986in -chat maybe
15:36.05akiraxok
15:36.10akiraxi'll try
15:36.12akiraxthx
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16:06.41mdeejayMarkinus any news about 2.6.35?
16:06.56gauner1986any news at ALL? :P
16:07.00gauner1986boring T_T
16:07.18LeTamagauner196
16:07.28LeTamagauner1986: fix i2c! :)
16:07.49gauner1986hm.. works sufficient for me :P
16:08.19Markinusmdeejay: I didn'T test anymore
16:08.39MarkinusLeTama: ?i2c?
16:09.12LeTamaMarkinus: sensor problem is i2c, no ?
16:10.07Markinussensor problem?
16:10.33LeTamagsensor freeze
16:11.04MarkinusLeTama: aso . .
16:11.13MarkinusLeTama: I didn't have this problem . .
16:11.21LeTamaI have it from time to time
16:11.23MarkinusLeTama: Intresting what there happend
16:11.49MarkinusLeTama: but is difficould to test with a working device  ,,
16:11.59MarkinusLeTama: the driver itself is from EVO
16:12.12LeTamayes, it doesn't happen very often, difficult to track down
16:13.04MarkinusLeTama: btw. I have my tg01
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16:23.16LeTamaMarkinus: great!
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16:51.32PUTASI've a picture of 2 devs on my phone
16:51.34PUTASsee
16:51.34PUTAShttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/12454233/CAP201011191414.jpg
16:52.21PUTASit is cotulla?!
16:52.36PUTASand mdeejay on left side xD
16:52.45mdeejayim not dev\
16:52.58PUTAS:P
16:53.00mdeejay:P
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16:53.40mdeejayits Cotulla & Markinus :D
16:55.39gauner1986hi
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17:06.52TonevHI all :)
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17:13.33[acl]Tonev: hey dood.. arrrghhh was looking for you
17:24.23arrrghhhhe's the guy that 'fixed' bt right?
17:24.42[acl]yea
17:24.43arrrghhhi asked him, he said it was 50%... and basically described the existing state of bt...
17:24.49[acl]wtf
17:24.52arrrghhhlol
17:24.57[acl]lol
17:25.03arrrghhhc'mon man how long have you been doin this.
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17:25.21arrrghhhdon't believe anyone without the source to prove it :P
17:25.39[acl]lol
17:26.08[acl]i usually only get involved when its commit time.. so i figured id let the masses do the testing
17:26.23arrrghhhwhat say you Tonev ?  i want to believe you, but let's just say i'm a skeptic until proven otherwise.
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17:26.31arrrghhhyea well.
17:26.52arrrghhhthere was some yokel saying they were 'looking at fixing the camera and bt' on xda
17:27.15arrrghhhturns out they had basically no clue what they were doing.  they thought since they've used cell phones, they would know how to fix it lol
17:29.31[acl]ahh yeah i stopped hanging out at xda..
17:30.01[acl]arrrghhh: so i went back to google framebuffer but using .35
17:30.17arrrghhhlol
17:30.20arrrghhhnice
17:30.20[acl]i'll work on making that faster
17:30.30arrrghhhso you've got it booting?
17:30.38[acl]nahh thats qualcomm fb that wasnt booting
17:30.42[acl]google works fine
17:30.45arrrghhhoic
17:30.55arrrghhhi didn't realize .35 was booting at all.
17:31.11[acl]no just the fb part.. i havent moved to .35 entirely
17:31.17arrrghhhah
17:31.25[acl]thats too crazy .. only an animal like jonpry would do such a thing
17:31.31arrrghhhhahaha
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17:31.42arrrghhhi'm just amazed at how much better this runs w/o jit
17:31.49Tonevum hi
17:31.49[acl]is it really that nice?
17:31.52arrrghhhi've been running it for more than 24hrs
17:31.57arrrghhhit's incredible.
17:31.59arrrghhhwhat's up Tonev
17:32.18Tonevtesting stuff out
17:32.46arrrghhhso what's this jibba jabba about bt
17:32.49Tonevi managed to get android 2.1 with sense and sound working but no wifi...
17:32.49jonpry[acl] your using .35 or just the fb on .27?
17:33.37[acl]just the fb
17:33.40[acl]but from google
17:33.46Tonevah about BT well when i go to settings and when i turn on BT it says that BT is on but when i try to find a device it does not show anything
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17:34.29Tonevi even tried with nesoid :D to play with another device but again nothing
17:34.44arrrghhhTonev, so you don't have a kernel that fixes bt.
17:34.49arrrghhhdidn't think so :P
17:34.59[acl]jonpry: ive yet to fix 3d.. but i think this fb will work with your kernel so you can resume the quest
17:35.15jonprythat is good news
17:35.23jonprydoes fb_console work?
17:35.38[acl]jonpry: i dont think i have that compiled in..
17:35.49[acl]not sure.. ..
17:35.59jonpryhrm
17:36.01[acl]oo i dont think i updated my defconfig as well.. so much to do
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17:36.28jonprywhat exactly is google fb?
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17:36.59bzoTonev: what did you change to allow bt to power on?
17:37.20jonpryisn't that just rkfill?
17:37.41bzophh and I tried before and couldn't get it to work
17:38.05Tonevwell i was testing different  modules and initrd files
17:38.21arrrghhhlol
17:38.27jonprydoes you hci_attach work?
17:38.57Tonevum i don't know
17:39.36bzothat's odd, that switching that stuff would have any effect on bt
17:39.54arrrghhhit probably didn't.
17:39.54jonprywho's to say it is really on
17:40.13bzoif android thinks it's on, that means it received something back from the driver
17:40.16Tonevyea it did not find any devices
17:40.24bzoin all my testing, it doesn't even turn on
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17:40.58jonpryin that case hci_attach should be working
17:40.59arrrghhhhrm
17:41.05arrrghhhi haven't tested bt since i owned mah raph
17:41.41jonprybt rfkill probably doesn't even work. so it could just be that
17:42.18bzounknown, rfkill could be ok, but hciattach might not be working
17:44.01jonpryi dunno what android would get back from the driver if it never opens the device
17:44.11[acl]jonpry: look at the google git .35.. you will see the fb
17:44.26jonpryyou mean android.git.kernel.org?
17:44.29[acl]its pretty much what we have but with years worth of updates
17:44.41bzoI don't think android opens the device directly, hciattach does
17:44.50[acl]google is trying to merge with the qcom fb now but thats on the back burner i think.
17:45.11bzoin any case our hciattach probably wouldn't work with the tp2 bt anyways, probably needs the bcm specfic one
17:45.12jonpryi don't understand what repo/tree you are talking about
17:45.46jonpryoh i have an idea
17:45.52Tonev:)
17:46.00jonprytonev said he doesn't have wifi
17:46.11jonpryso he is not loading the bcm firmware
17:46.26jonprymaybe it keeps the old stuff around?
17:46.37Tonevyes i did not have wifi
17:47.08jonpryor maybe the chip is acting ridiculous because it has no fw
17:47.17bzoquite possible. it has been puzzling why the rfkill code would not work
17:47.30bzothe poweron sequence has been traced extensively
17:48.45bzobbl
17:48.58Tonevw8 people i will try to do it again... just waiting for my phone to charge cuz currenty the battery metter in android is um unstable
17:49.35[acl]jonpry: you saw the google one? ill find it
17:49.37TonevIt said in android that i have 5% battery and when i booted in wm it said that i have 0% battery ????
17:49.59Tonevhow the hell did i booted back in wm :D
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17:52.21MN-hd2hello all
17:53.12[acl]jonpry: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.35
17:53.33Tonevhi
17:56.08jonpry[acl]: see that is what my .35 is
17:56.48jonpryi eventually switched to the stuff in /drivers/staging/dream
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17:56.58jonprybut it all is the same :(
17:56.59[acl]jonpry: really ? .. the staging is the evil stuff..
17:57.18jonpryseemed to work better than the stuff in /drivers/video/msm
17:57.40[acl]jonpry: ok so ill commit to nand with .35 .. and you can pillag and hopefully get your .35 moving.. or would you rather do it backwards
17:58.04jonpryi can pillage
17:58.43jonpryit just that getting the board file setup for lcdc was such a pain
17:59.02[acl]but lcdc needs mdp3 and above right.. we cant run it
17:59.28jonpryby lcdc i mean the msmfb that supports it. not using it
17:59.52jonprythose drivers also support mdp2x
17:59.59jonpryand mddi
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18:02.23[acl]ahh ic
18:03.47jonprybut support is a relative term
18:04.56Tonevbrb
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19:17.01Necrosanarrrghhh: I got my EVO fully on virgin mobile now. $25 a month sucka :)
19:17.27arrrghhhoh yea.  that dude with the stolen evo.
19:17.39arrrghhhyou don't want to know what i pay.  this is NOT a game you want to get into.
19:19.09NecrosanI pay $25 a month, and the EVO isn't stolen.
19:19.23Necrosan(Did I mention it was only $75)
19:19.39NecrosanAnd yes. I do want to know what you pay. I don't even know what phone you have!
19:19.50arrrghhhyou do want to know what i pay?  why?
19:20.03NecrosanI'm curious. This is the BEST deal available I can find anywhere
19:20.08NecrosanIf there is better I'd like to know
19:20.14NecrosanAre you against "sharing the wealth?"
19:20.39arrrghhhwell
19:20.44arrrghhhi have a friend that works at sprint.
19:20.49arrrghhhso there's no point in sharing the details...
19:20.52Necrosannice. i sense a deasl
19:20.55arrrghhhas i can't share the wealth in this case.
19:20.55NecrosanWhat do you pay?
19:21.24jonpryprepaid is $0/month
19:21.52jonpryi'm seriously are you bragging about how poor you are
19:21.53Necrosanwhat do you mean jonpry ?
19:21.58arrrghhhlol
19:22.18arrrghhhhe's bragging about the supposed 'great deals' he finds.
19:22.25arrrghhhlike activating stolen evo's from CL on virgin.
19:22.35NecrosanIt's not stolen arrrghhh. Keep insisting though.
19:22.40NecrosanI don't know why you're such a hater
19:22.47arrrghhhhaters gonna hate
19:22.51NecrosanYou're literally the only person on the entire reaches of IRC to hate on me
19:22.57NecrosanI hope you're proud of yourself :)
19:22.59arrrghhhlmao
19:23.01NecrosanYour mother raised you right
19:23.08arrrghhhthis is for chat about kernel development
19:23.14arrrghhhno one cares about your stolen evo
19:23.16arrrghhhor prepaid plans.
19:23.39Necrosanarrrghhh: I got an evo for $75 with clean MEID
19:23.43Necrosan;)
19:23.52arrrghhhdidn't i say nobody cares?
19:24.06NecrosanIt's also on virgin mobile, arrrghhh
19:24.14NecrosanIsn't that so cool?
19:24.21arrrghhhoy
19:24.24arrrghhhif only i had ops...
19:24.36NecrosanThey don't give ops to people with IQ's lower than 90, arrrghhh
19:24.37jonprybeing sir richard bransons bitch is not cool
19:24.37NecrosanDur. =P
19:24.48Necrosanjonpry: Sprint bought virgin last year =P
19:24.55Necrosan(usa mvno anyway)
19:25.00arrrghhhNecrosan, insulting my intelligence... good one.
19:27.21arrrghhhlook, this is #htc-linux, not #igotastolenevooncraigslist
19:27.34arrrghhhso unless you're planning on contributing something useful, i suggest you leave.
19:27.45NecrosanWhy don't you contribute something useful, arrrghhh?
19:28.06jonpryarrrghhh is useful. he runs dangerous code on his phone
19:28.16arrrghhhlol
19:28.18Necrosanjonpry: I compile "dangerous code" for my phone, so what?
19:28.30NecrosanHe's really not that useful. He's just a hater
19:28.33arrrghhhi helped stine see the light
19:28.37arrrghhhabout jit
19:28.38arrrghhh:P
19:28.41NecrosanYou can't do shit dude
19:28.47NecrosanEveryone knows JIT is a necessity on android
19:28.53arrrghhhLMAO
19:28.56NecrosanYou just passed android 101
19:28.58arrrghhhyou're an idiot.
19:29.10NecrosanC'mon arrrghhh. Lets see your contributions
19:29.13arrrghhhJIT is not a necessity.
19:29.19arrrghhhlook in the forums.
19:29.21NecrosanWhat's your nickname you contribute stuff with?
19:29.23arrrghhhlook on the bug tracker
19:29.26arrrghhhsame
19:29.27NecrosanGoogle my nickname. Be surprised
19:29.31arrrghhhi don't commit any code
19:29.35NecrosanOf course not
19:29.44arrrghhhi see posts about a stolen evo
19:29.45arrrghhhthat's it.
19:29.54NecrosanYou obviously didn't google my nickname
19:30.05arrrghhhlol of course not.  i don't care who you are.
19:30.15NecrosanOK n00b
19:30.19NecrosanSo shut your mouth. you can't even program
19:30.20NecrosanAT ALL.
19:30.24NecrosanSo please leave
19:30.28NecrosanUnless you can contribute something
19:30.30Necrosan:)
19:30.40arrrghhhuhm.  i do have some programming knowledge.  but doesn't really apply to this project.
19:30.43arrrghhhi help out where i can.
19:30.53NecrosanOK arrrghhh. So maybe next time mind your manners a bit
19:30.58arrrghhhyou, on the other hand i've only seen talk about stupid things like your stolen evo.
19:31.00NecrosanPeople do have more knowledge than you
19:31.06arrrghhhlots of people do
19:31.11NecrosanAnd for what its worth, when you /part people question what your deal is
19:31.14NecrosanGetting all in my grill
19:31.19arrrghhhwhat does that have to do with you talking about your stupid evo in this room.
19:31.27NecrosanWhat do you contribute, arrrghhh ?
19:31.28NecrosanNothing?
19:31.29NecrosanOK.
19:31.32NecrosanThat's all I needed to know.
19:31.37arrrghhhwhat does that have to do with you talking about your stupid evo in this room.
19:31.38NecrosanSo keep being completely useless
19:31.53NecrosanThe EVO actually can save people money if they do what I did. a LOT of money. I mentioned it ONE time
19:31.59NecrosanYou freaked out. Now I will pester YOU forever
19:32.03Necrosan(YOU)
19:32.05Necrosan;)
19:32.07arrrghhhwhat does that have to do with you talking about your stupid evo in this room.
19:32.15NecrosanWow you're a real lamer arrrghhh
19:32.20arrrghhh:D
19:32.21NecrosanGo get some skills. Some college. Somethin
19:32.32NecrosanYour brain isn't fit to be using an android device
19:32.33arrrghhhwhy don't you contribute something
19:32.39arrrghhhi don't ever see you being helpful.
19:32.57Necrosanarrrghhh: Get your stolen phone out of here it's not allowed.
19:33.04arrrghhhlmao
19:33.08NecrosanYou know what I hate? Thieves like arrrghhh. :)
19:33.11arrrghhhi never said i stole my phone
19:33.16NecrosanYes you did
19:33.19arrrghhh?
19:33.34NecrosanYou clearly messaged me not to talk about stolen phones, and subtly told me yours also "might" be stolen
19:33.41Necrosan(mine isn't, at all, for what its worth)
19:33.46arrrghhhLMAO
19:33.49arrrghhhthat's rich.
19:34.01arrrghhhyou're really goin down that road huh.
19:34.07NecrosanHey dude. You told me that crap.
19:34.13arrrghhhuh huh.
19:34.14NecrosanIf you have a stolen phone keep that shit to yourself, arrrghhh.
19:34.16arrrghhhi'm SO sure i did.
19:34.21arrrghhhagreed
19:34.22NecrosanThat's perverted. Sick.
19:34.26arrrghhhkeep your stolen phone talk to yourself.
19:34.35NecrosanNecrosan > arrrghhh
19:34.36Necrosan;)
19:34.39arrrghhhyea, turn it around on me.
19:34.40Necrosanall day baby
19:34.49arrrghhhk.
19:34.53NecrosanTurn it around on you? You messaged me that
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19:35.00Necrosanhi AgentBlair
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19:37.01AgentBlairhi
19:38.35hamagcnecrosan, aren't you working on something? lol
19:38.50Necrosanhamagc: always =P
19:40.24hamagcoh wait, your not a moment dev. damn those intercepts!
19:41.27Necrosanhamagc: doing two devices now.. its a PITA.. and most intercept stuff works on moments FYI =P
19:41.52hamagcoh? i should go play then when i'm bored of meats kernel lol
19:43.22NecrosanOh yeah. kernel won't work. =P
19:43.46NecrosanI could do a build for you though maybe. it's the same source
19:43.51hamagclol figures. still good to know that other stuff may work.
19:44.12hamagcna, i'm not looking for anything special right now. waiting for the 2.2 dev team to pick it up a bit lol
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19:44.42NecrosanWe probably shouldn't keep talking here. arrrghhh might get mad and wish he was an op some more ;)
19:45.05arrrghhhhrm... #htc-linux.
19:45.07arrrghhhhmmmmm
19:45.10hamagclol
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19:45.42NecrosanThat guy is probably a cop in real life.
19:45.48NecrosanI _HATE_ cops, arrrghhh.
19:45.50NecrosanAnd you remind me of one
19:46.11arrrghhhyou really do sound like a winner.
19:46.28arrrghhhlike an all-around great guy....
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19:46.42NecrosanI smoke marijuana too, arrrghhh.
19:46.46NecrosanPut me on the cross!
19:47.27arrrghhh12 year olds shouldn't smoke pot.
19:47.35arrrghhhor buy stolen evos, but hey who am i to judge.
19:47.43Necrosan<3
19:48.28arrrghhhwell i decided to google you.  seems you're a vein tool, and haven't done anything for htc-linux.
19:48.51arrrghhhhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Necrosan
19:49.20DuperManwhere do I buy that evo?
19:49.22arrrghhhi'll try to add some more definitions here to add some perspective.
19:49.32arrrghhhDuperMan, CL.  stolen phones are all over that place :P
19:49.33NecrosanI JUST got the EVO, arrrghhh
19:49.45NecrosanLiterally. A week ago. You were here
19:49.48arrrghhhNecrosan, but this room has NOTHING to do with evo development.
19:49.52NecrosanDuperMan: It's got a clean ESN
19:49.54DuperManhehe.
19:49.55arrrghhhliterally.  NOTHING
19:49.58Necrosanarrrghhh: EVO is amde by HTC,
19:50.00Necrosanamirite?
19:50.06Necrosans/amde/made/
19:50.10arrrghhhuhm.  this room is not for native android devices.
19:50.17arrrghhhit's for porting wince devices to linux.
19:50.23NecrosanWho cares? It's for HTC devices. I'm chilling, bro.
19:50.32DuperManare stolen phones "warez"?
19:50.36DuperMancause that's another nono
19:50.37DuperMan:P
19:50.50hamagcactually warez would be software.
19:50.52NecrosanWho has a stolen phone besides arrrghhh ?
19:51.05arrrghhhI don't steal phones, nor do I buy stolen ones.
19:51.08DuperManhamagc: was joking. stolen property is "wares"
19:51.08hamagcbut wayyyy ot
19:51.11arrrghhhi'd appreicate if you don't confuse me with yourself.
19:51.13[acl]ahh man .. hate to be the fucking prick but you guys are filling the logs with crap.
19:51.23Necrosanit's just arrrghhh [acl]
19:51.25arrrghhh[acl], can you ban his ass?
19:51.29arrrghhhpretty please?
19:51.36NecrosanNot contributing, as usual
19:51.45DuperMan[acl]: my bad. /spam
19:52.01[acl]i cannot ban .. sorry
19:52.04arrrghhhbah.
19:52.05arrrghhhoh well.
19:52.19NecrosanDuperMan: I liked the joke btw =P
19:52.20arrrghhhi'm done talking with this tool.
19:52.57arrrghhhenjoy your stolen evo Necrosan.  just stay a lurker, we don't need to hear about your virgin mobile plan.
19:53.13Necrosanarrrghhh: I'm glad to know you're my biggest fan.
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20:14.15TheDeadCPUNecrosan, arrrghhh isn't the only one hating you.
20:14.27TheDeadCPUHe's just one of the two who admits it.
20:16.35NecrosanHe has balls then. Good for him.
20:18.14TheDeadCPUMeh, so what's your XDA username?
20:19.43NecrosanI don't post much on XDA, but it's Necrosan
20:19.54Necrosani may have years ago
20:20.04TheDeadCPUYou have 0 posts on XDA so you don't post at all.
20:20.11TheDeadCPU13th December '07
20:20.22fakkerleave it TheDeadCPU
20:20.37fakkerthe jokes on him, if he asks about doing certain things - he'll just be ignored
20:20.41NecrosanYou're right. I haven't. never had an HTC device before
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20:39.52MN-hd2hello all
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20:42.45Alex[sp3dev]hi trolls
20:43.04gauner1986yay
20:43.05gauner1986trolls
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20:44.01MN-hd2lol talking to me :s
20:45.00Alex[sp3dev]not really. i meant arrrghhh. looks like he's having a butthurt over someone's stolen evo
20:46.03MN-hd2oh lol
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21:36.20Alex[sp3dev][acl]: here?
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21:37.46[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: for you .. im always around.. sup bro
21:38.14[acl]commit time ?
21:38.27[acl]phh said he had time to help get everything phh ready..
21:38.28Alex[sp3dev]if you want to commit, just merge my repository
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21:38.53[acl]tests went well i take it ? isnt that were we last left off ?
21:39.26Alex[sp3dev][acl]: no idea. you promised to take care of spreading the stuff. but afaik my patches only affect kovsky
21:40.49Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i think i'll start moving towards 35. and you know, i think we'll need to start from scratch. i think first i'll try to get the minimum set of changes to boot the google branch. i think, qdsp and proc_comm_wince will need to be rewritten in such a way that we don't need to make many changes to android's ones. i mean, we'll bury ourselves under this crap if we try to just forward-port everything as is
21:41.09[acl]ive been looking at your commits.. the kovsky board rewrite looks massive
21:41.42Alex[sp3dev][acl]: you know, kovsky guys are happy. and btw, some dood said that when he disabled data and ppp, his phone lasted like 3 times longer
21:41.52[acl]ooo
21:41.57[acl]phh: dood u around?
21:42.34Alex[sp3dev][acl]: before you summon phh, i think we need to try that thing ourselves
21:42.59emwe[acl]: agreed. i think some modifications are burried so deep we don't even notice we stumble upon them.
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21:43.15[acl]sounds good
21:44.12[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: your usb changes tho.. that affects all devices.. cant really commit that without everyone testing too..
21:44.23Alex[sp3dev][acl]: test it then
21:44.42emwebut he hasn't all devices ;)
21:45.21[acl]shit buy you took everyone out of the board files which is the one thing phh wanted ..
21:45.26Alex[sp3dev]what's driving me nuts is microp. we'll need to separate the led and keybd logic into platform code. because, for example, when WisTilt commits something for rhodium, that breaks Quartz (yeah, i think that will hit our tree as soon as some work is done on it) and other devices. like, causing reboots and weird effects. someone tell him to wrap his code in if (machine_is_htcrhodium()) {} guards please
21:45.47[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: agreed on that too.. should talk to wistilt since he is doing most of the microp crap for rhod.
21:45.56jonprymicrop used to be a platform driver
21:46.15Alex[sp3dev]jonpry: i think we'll need to move led code and stuff out of it
21:46.36jonpryout of the i2c driver?
21:47.13Alex[sp3dev]yes, just export (or better, pass via some pdata or so) the i2c functions, and let the led code be in board--- files.
21:48.05[acl]now thats good
21:48.17[acl]back to the board files has my vote :-)
21:48.36Alex[sp3dev]ok, i think 35 will be a hard nut
21:48.46jonpryimho its all bad. theres no good way to deal with these software driven pieces of hardware
21:49.09jonpryi like the stuff with adsp tables though
21:49.31jonpryjust big arrays to deal with the differences, and one pieces of logic that works on everything
21:49.34Alex[sp3dev]you know, i'm sick to death of this phone already. but given that i have no money and there is no other 2.9'' wvga phone around (running linux).. ok, enough offtopic
21:49.45[acl]lol
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21:50.23Alex[sp3dev]it's like we've been digging for some long time, but have not moved forwards. we need to fix camera and make a nand rom i think
21:51.53emwei think topaz started more or lesss around this time last year.
21:52.17Alex[sp3dev]and what? diam has started more than two years ago, and they basically have the same hw
21:52.20emweand so many interessting phones passed by already.
21:52.56emweAlex[sp3dev]: nah, just wanted to mention this precious date in time ;)
21:53.25Alex[sp3dev]actually it's weird how fast the phones are developing. before 2007, there was absolutely no development for like 5 year, and everyone had a pxa270 and 64 mb ram (except for the unlucky ones that had omap)
21:54.25emweso hurry before all donators buy new phones :P
21:55.14[acl]writel(0xa41, MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE + 0x8c); < --- you could always just set it to 0x41 so we can keep the clock code the same for everyone by ORing 0xA for enable ..
21:55.21[acl]oops that was for alex
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21:56.23Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i prefer to force it before boot. just in case. let's leave that until we have a full nand rom
21:56.56Alex[sp3dev][ac]: i don't mind your correcting this. just let's make public testing then
21:57.33[acl]im good with most of your commits.. but the usb one.. that one will take time since ur doing the opposite by taking stuff out of the board files
21:57.49[acl]but im sure we can work it out
21:58.46Alex[sp3dev][acl]: damn, i am sick of that ugly exporting functions like htc_msm_add_usb_devices.. at least, the current implementation allows us to make it more modular and make the c files less dependant (more OOP-ish, if you want, though i hate that term)
21:59.27[acl]we need a happy medium..
22:00.25Alex[sp3dev]well, i'm happy with that, since all the platform-dependant routines go into board files. i don't think moving just one function and introducing callbacks is worth it (and note it, my implementation actually cares for DISABLING the ulpi when not needed)
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22:02.15[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: you got me there.. i dont even do that on nand :-)
22:02.22[acl]lol
22:03.40Alex[sp3dev]ok, the moment of clarity. have only added board-htckovsky.c, board-htckovsky-panel.c and clock-wince.c. let's see if it is gonna boot
22:05.12emweAlex[sp3dev]: just fyi, i've been using your clock-wince sine more then a week now. all fine.
22:05.24Alex[sp3dev]emwe: raph?
22:05.31Alex[sp3dev]oh, topa
22:05.34emweAlex[sp3dev]: topa.
22:05.49Alex[sp3dev]btw, with jit disabled, i get 14 fps in neocore instead of 19
22:05.53emweif that raph would finally arrive i'd likely have run it on it too
22:06.29emweAlex[sp3dev]: with or without OC?
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22:06.42Alex[sp3dev]emwe: without of course
22:07.29Alex[sp3dev]actually, overclock doesn't give me any profit. overclocking the cpu won't get a performance gain in 3d. and overclocking axi causes memory corruption on kovsky. have not looked into that
22:08.06emweoh mem corruption? kovsky has no 160mhz memory modules like rhod/topa?
22:08.17Alex[sp3dev]no, 128 like raph
22:08.19emweah
22:09.08bzothe turbo oc code is faulty
22:09.17Alex[sp3dev]yes, it is
22:10.02emweand OC brings device to freeze on wake in acpuclock_set_vdd() when OCed on sleep_mode=1 ;)
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22:11.18bzooc code probably needs to deal with a11 fully shutting down and restarting
22:11.51Alex[sp3dev]don't we overclock the pll from which the peripherals are derived? if so, we need to rework it
22:12.31bzodon't think so, most stuff is derived from pll 0 or 1, 2 is only used for the cpu
22:12.45bzothough the cpu can use 0/1 as well
22:13.27emwebzo: a dummy question. how long is a11 power collapse to be in effect? (time-wise)
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22:13.45bzoI'm speaking only of the cpu OC though, the turbo OC is faulty because of the peripheral problem
22:14.08bzoemwe: I dunno, as long as the device is sleeping?
22:14.42emwebzo: is msm_pm_collapse() to return then immedeately or is it supposed to not return until a9 wakes arm11 again?
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22:15.06bzoemwe: no idea
22:15.37MNHi
22:15.39bzoI would think that is an async call though
22:16.45emwecan you give me a hint where a9 might be waking a11 again? respectively how?
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22:17.48bzoI would give you a hint if I knew :) I only digged into that code enough to hack in the OC code
22:18.00Alex[sp3dev]do you think i can disable the qdsp5? it should boot, right?
22:18.25emwebzo: thx.
22:19.29bzoseems like qdsp shouldn't be a boot dependency
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22:25.26Ian58Someone know where I can download the USB host driver for leo please?
22:25.43Alex[sp3dev]it is in the git, you need to rebuild the kernel
22:32.59[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: think your clocks are more than ready for a commit
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23:28.39NeoFluxCurious to what developers think of this: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/210966/tiny_linux_kernel_patch_delivers_huge_speed_boost.html
23:28.57NeoFluxApparently one or two other developers are testing kernel builds with the nexus one..
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