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02:01.51Hunterkllquery: outer glass on G1 is cracked, is that a layer of digitizer or something else that needs replacing
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02:07.53Hunterkllalcohol + phone repair probably aren't a good mix, but oh well
02:12.55ocmwhy are you using a g1?
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02:21.18Willowis it true that the contents of ram_console will survive a battery drop? I've been told it is true and that it is false by two different people at different times on here
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02:29.31jonpryi don't think it is true
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02:35.34RajkoWillow, nope
02:35.36Rajkodoesnt survive
02:37.29Rajkomaybe if you had ecc on ramconsole enabled
02:37.30Rajkoit might
02:40.33Willowso until I find a way to warm reset my S511 I probably can't use ramconsole and it will not help to find out what ram address to use for ramconsole
02:40.50Rajkowince has it
02:45.05Willowso I use the same address as the one wince uses for it's NkDbgPrintF message log?
02:46.21jonprythat would get clobbered by wince
02:46.27jonpryneed something unused
02:46.45Rajkodont boot wince :D
02:47.14jonprysupposedly the easy way is at the end of the heap
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02:47.33jonprybut an sram region is preferable
02:47.43WillowRajko: yeah that is the goal...what were you saying "wince has it?"
02:49.31jonpryyour phone doesn't have a reset button somewhere?
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02:51.19Willownot at all although there is an unpopulated place for a button that is missing a couple other resistors? capacitors? or other component as well. The unpopulated button would be at the top of the phone and I think it is an unlikely place for a reset button.
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02:52.45jonpryargh. even with a way to reset it via software, it will be a world of hurt since the kernel will hang a lot
02:54.45jonprymaybe just leave the phone with very little battery. mine seems to reset after a long while even when plugged into usb
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02:59.07Willowusing haretconsole, I've figured out how to turn on and off keypad backlight and orange/green indicator led with i2c commands to microp
02:59.07WillowI've tried to control the leds from the kernel but so far unsuccessfully. Once I can control the led from the kernel, I can use it to debug the boot process without benefit or ramconsole. Possibly even something like http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/kaiserledhack even though my device is a willow, not a kaiser
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03:03.29WillowHow can I differentiate sram, sdram and rom when mapping the memory in my device?
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04:00.38WillowWhy does the following code in asmstuff.S NOT turn on the green LED?
04:00.38Willowmmu_trampoline:
04:00.38Willow@ Store previous registers on stack.
04:00.38Willow<PROTECTED>
04:00.39Willow@ turn on green indicator LED
04:00.40Willowmovr0, #0xb0000000
04:00.40Willoworrr0, r0, #0x2000000
04:00.41Willoworrr0, r0, #0x100000
04:00.41Willowmovr1, #0x1cc
04:01.08Willowstrr1, [r0]
04:01.08Willowmovr1, #0x51
04:01.08Willowstrr1, [r0]
04:01.08Willowmovr1, #0x0
04:01.08Willowstrr1, [r0]
04:01.08Willowmovr1, #0x1
04:01.08Willowstrr1, [r0]
04:01.09Willowmovr1, #0xff
04:01.09Willowstrr1, [r0]
04:01.10Willowmovr1, #0x200
04:01.10Willoworrr1, r1, #0xff
04:01.11Willowstrr1, [r0]
04:01.12Willow@ return to avoid having to reboot while getting led control working
04:01.12Willowmovpc, r14
04:01.28Willow----------------------
04:01.28WillowI intend the above to do the same as the following commands that DO WORK when typed into the haretconsole:
04:01.28Willowvfw 0xb2100000 0x1 0x1cc
04:01.28Willowvfw 0xb2100000 0x1 0x51
04:01.28Willowvfw 0xb2100000 0x1 0x0
04:01.29Willowvfw 0xb2100000 0x1 0x1
04:01.29Willowvfw 0xb2100000 0x1 0xff
04:01.30Willowvfw 0xb2100000 0x1 0x2ff
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04:22.36Willowdid I put everyone to sleep ;)
04:23.17hastarinhehe More likely we just don't follow ARM machine code or whatever that was.  :p
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04:39.53Hunterkll`seen [delenn]
04:39.56Hunterkllhrm
04:40.33ocmwhat?
04:40.56Hunterklltrying to get cotulla
04:40.57Hunterkll>:3
04:41.04Hunterkllmeantime, I have my nonbricked HD2 back D:
04:41.42ocmlol
04:41.45ocmdid you fix it?
04:41.51Hunterkllhtc did
04:41.51Hunterkll>:3
04:41.59Hunterklllol
04:42.01HunterkllFOR FREE
04:42.21ocmlmao win
04:42.23ocmwarantee?
04:42.25Hunterkllyep
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04:47.39lesjawmy hd2 screen seems broken..in winmo or android if I press back button touch screen did not work..jika
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04:52.54Glublol hunterkill
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05:30.19curiousGeorgeSo! How was yeterday's progress on merging elements of the cm-kernel?
05:30.34curiousGeorgeI don't see any particularly revealing commits (dsp, etc)...
05:30.50curiousGeorgeWas it a no-go?
05:33.10curiousGeorgevegaman ?
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05:39.11hastarinA few of the cherry picks I made recently were originally from the CM (or the CM experimental) kernel.  I didn't hear any more from vegaman on any luck he may have had.
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05:55.16curiousGeorgecherry picks?
06:05.35curiousGeorgeinteresting. so no dsp related items (yet)?
06:07.26mdeejay:) updated CodeSourcery toolchain
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06:13.05ob_<noob here w/a question: my froyo startup screen is telling me that I have an update available (2010_11_08) and I have 2010_10_31 installed. The update always forces me to quit because it says there was an error. I have the Rhodium 400 and I couldn't find anything about the update on the website. Might anyone know what I can do to get the update to work, or is it an error showing up in the first place? I've tried several times with the
06:13.33arrrghhhob_, wrong room
06:13.39arrrghhhgo to #xdandroid
06:13.52ob_ok
06:16.46arrrghhh...
06:18.32hastarin---
06:18.49hastarinBah - - - would have been more appropriate.  :p
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06:21.50arrrghhhlol
06:21.55arrrghhhsorry sir...
06:22.08arrrghhhi'm still waiting for him to join so i can help him.
06:22.32arrrghhhor berate him, either way he'll get android running eventually lol.
06:23.01hastarinhehe  All good, just being cheeky.
06:23.13ob_arrrghhh, you mean me?
06:23.41arrrghhhyes, i do mean you.
06:23.48ob_i've looked all over the xda site
06:23.52arrrghhhhastarin, no worries :D
06:24.02arrrghhhob_, it's a room.  /join #xdandroid...
06:24.14arrrghhhthis should be fun.
06:24.17ob_website?
06:24.18ob_lol
06:24.26ob_i'm on the xda developers site
06:24.45hastarinlol  good luck there arrrghhh  :p
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06:25.39arrrghhhwow.
06:25.41arrrghhhi'm going to need it.
06:25.52arrrghhhob_, you might be better off with winmo
06:26.03arrrghhhin fact, you might be better off without any electronics from the sound of it...
06:26.17arrrghhhhow did you find this room, honestly?
06:26.22ob_thanks
06:26.44ob_i already have android working, i just want to update
06:26.47arrrghhhwell you haven't really listened (or read?) anything i've suggested.
06:26.50ob_i found the room from a link
06:26.56ob_i've read A LOT
06:26.59ob_FAQ
06:26.59arrrghhh...
06:27.06ob_the page for my phone
06:27.07arrrghhhi asked you to join a different room
06:27.15arrrghhhbecause this room is for KERNEL DEVELOPMENT ONLY
06:27.17ob_yes i don't know how to get there
06:27.21arrrghhhas in, not the help a noob room
06:27.21hastarinDid you try typing "/join #xdandroid" ?
06:27.28arrrghhhi gave you the damned command
06:27.32arrrghhhthere it is again !
06:27.53ob_i type it in this chat or in the web browser?
06:28.01arrrghhh...chat...
06:28.35arrrghhhlet's hope your pc knowledge is better than your irc knowledge...
06:36.34arrrghhhso mr hastarin how goes the hd2 development.
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06:37.20hastarinI'm not sure I'd call what I'm doing development, but it goes pretty well.
06:38.41hastarinI'd love to see the newer camera changes fixed up a bit (auto white balance issue).  Not sure, but hope Markinus is working on that one.
06:40.26curiousGeorgeNo need to be modest. :)
06:41.23hastarinhehe I just mean most of what I'm doing is pulling patches in to a kernel and building it.  I've commited one unique bit of code in months.
06:43.05arrrghhhhaha
06:43.25arrrghhhyea i'm jealous.  you guys are making these little refinements to camera, we don't even have it working yet :P
06:44.30hastarinhehe Yeah we're pretty lucky.  As things stand the phone is very useable.  I personally think the camera has taken a couple of steps backwards for it's one step forward, but hopefully it leads us to where we need to go.
06:45.08hastarinWhat phone are you using again?  I've seen it mentioned, but never looked up a photo.
06:45.15arrrghhhrhodium
06:45.16arrrghhhtp2
06:45.33arrrghhhas i've called it before, the bastard cousin of the hd2 with a great kbd :D
06:45.49arrrghhhjust crappy specs haha
06:46.32lesjawshastarin glad u support ext batt in 8.3b.. tq
06:47.10hastarinhehe I skipped that one.  My last phone was a Dopod 838 Pro, whatever that is.
06:47.31hastarinlesjaws: 8.3b_eb is for extended battery
06:47.42hastarinlesjaws: But you're welcome
06:47.52lesjawsyes, I'm using it now
06:48.12arrrghhhi love the damned keyboard.  it's the best kbd i've used on a phone hands down.
06:48.15lesjawsthere was a time I stuck at 7.8 .. hehehehe
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06:48.53hastarinlesjaws: Yeah, now really the only difference is the battery driver.  I still hope to update the new one eventually, but meanwhile I'll just keep the branch
06:49.21hastarinarrrrghhh: With Swype I don't miss the hardware keyboard as much as I used to.
06:50.26lesjawsyes..glad to have u around on xda, make hd2 rocks! :-) ..
06:50.33lesjawsanyway I have strange problem with my hd2.. it always touch screen freeze after I press back button
06:51.05lesjawsit happen on winmo too..weird .. just happen last night..before everything is just fine
06:52.41arrrghhhhastarin, i can't get used to swipe... i tried it, but i can't see past my fast ass fingers - they would get in the way and i couldn't see where to stop lol!
06:53.43hastarinhehe Yeah it takes a bit to get used to, but once you do it's amazing how fast you can type.  Unless you're trying to do stuff like use a shell...
06:54.01hastarinThough funnily enough, it learns, so mine now knows "uptime", "dmesg", etc  :p
06:54.47hastarinlesjaws: Sounds bad.  No idea what it would be though.
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06:57.07lesjawslol..just press home button to change task
06:58.48curiousGeorgeswype
06:58.57curiousGeorgewhere did you get that?
06:59.23arrrghhhi found some apk floating about xda-devs i believe.  is it not on the market?
06:59.32arrrghhhwhen i tried it, the build wasn't 'official' it was still beta.
06:59.32curiousGeorgenope
06:59.51arrrghhhmay the goooooooogle be with you.
06:59.57arrrghhhi must sleep.  have a good one guys.
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07:00.41hastarinnight
07:01.24curiousGeorgeanyway... about the havs....
07:02.06curiousGeorgewill that supercede the current sysfs model?
07:02.19hastarinI read it briefly, can't be bothered reading more atm.  It's adjusting the voltage within a given range of voltages based on temperature.
07:02.29curiousGeorgeinteresting
07:03.00hastarinThere is some sort of monitoring circuitry, and apparently it tries to find the best undervolting it can achieve for each frequency.
07:03.24hastarinBut given they still need to tweak the voltages, I'm not sure how great that works.
07:03.55hastarinI think I'll leave it out for now.  Maybe when things are a bit more stable I'll add it instead of the sysfs interface.
07:04.02curiousGeorgeAh, incredible. So for example, 825mV might only be stable at... lower temperatures?
07:05.00hastarinHmm, that doesn't make sense to me... maybe it only tries to undervolt when it gets hotter.  Like I said, I can't be bothered reading it in full atm.
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07:14.54curiousGeorgein that case why not just _always_ stay at the lowest voltage that's stable? havs needn't raise the voltage unnecessarily
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07:17.53hastarinYeah... I don't know.  Maybe the hotter it gets the more voltage it needs to stay stable...  I can't say I've been in to playing with overclocking/etc beyond the basics.
07:19.00curiousGeorgeInterestingly, raising the voltage of 1.19Ghz to 1.35V caused hard locks, while lowering it to 1.30V has been wonderful.
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07:22.05curiousGeorgeBut once the phone got really hot (it was on the charger too), it locked up more easily on the lower voltages. If HAVS plays any role in mediating these voltage ranges as a function of temperature, it might be quite valuable in the future.
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09:45.28curiousGeorge'night people!!
09:47.44lanwinhi people
09:48.08lanwinis there a way to test if iptables work?
09:48.25lanwinsome log files or something other
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09:54.21HadoBrandogood morning everyone
09:54.28HadoBrandowc sry
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10:32.34vegamanhmm, looks like the nexus crowd are having good luck with that RFC/RFT patch, might have to try backporting it again, must have missed something last time
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11:12.10gauner1986nope
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15:18.21TonevHi
15:18.30Tonevany news on BT for TP2?
15:18.48Tonevif you want i can test :)
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15:33.42Tonevyea talking to myself
15:34.58arrrghhhTP2Tonev, yoo
15:37.27Tonevhi
15:37.45Tonevyea a TP2 user :) :) :)
15:38.17arrrghhhTP2Ja acl said u fixed bt?
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15:39.02arrrghhhTP2Cuz that would be sweet!  :)
15:39.14arrrghhhTP2New system image w/jit disabled is amazing.
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15:48.15Tonevhi
15:48.27Tonevwell i think it is 50% fixed
15:48.48Tonevcuz you can turn on bluetoot but yuo can't find any devices in range
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16:15.36Kenjihey guys i'm new here. I just got the xda. But i got a touch pro 2 so the keyboard is different. is there anything I can do to change it?
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16:16.23arrrghhhKenji: please go to #xdandroid
16:16.36arrrghhhthis room is reserved for kernel development.  it's not a support channel ;)
16:16.49Kenjisorry
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16:17.33arrrghhhno worries
16:17.35arrrghhhah well
16:17.45threeaglehow many times can that happen in an hour
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16:19.23shadeslayerok i have quick question, im going to buy a HTC Desire in the coming few weeks, is there a Meego ROM i can download and try out on it?
16:19.44shadeslayerhttp://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD#HTC_Desire doesnt quite tell you what to download
16:20.58arrrghhhwhat up [acl]... good news
16:21.02arrrghhhwell and bad i guess haha
16:21.10[acl]arrrghhh: do tell
16:21.16[acl]cuz i need good news right about now
16:21.23[acl]not having a good month
16:21.25arrrghhhstine had me disable jit to track down that volume rocker reset issue
16:21.43arrrghhhi couldn't quite get it, but when stine himself did it, he couldn't recreate the issue.
16:21.48[acl]oo
16:21.55arrrghhhi finally managed to as well, and lo and behold with jit disabled a ton of bugs have seemingly fallen.
16:22.06arrrghhhsystem feels so much smoother too.
16:22.11[acl]ahh . this is good news
16:22.21arrrghhhindeed
16:22.25[acl]jonpry: yoo
16:22.31arrrghhhso i've got a new system image from the man himself.
16:22.49arrrghhhso the bad news - your boy tomev or whatever his name is seems to be blowin smoke.
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16:24.16jonpryyou kiddin me. turning off the jit fixed it?
16:24.29arrrghhhyea.  a lot of other issues too
16:24.38arrrghhhlike raph bootloops with new data.img's
16:24.49[acl]jonpry: bro its time to discuss some fb
16:24.52jonprycamro told me he did that
16:24.53arrrghhhi am going to have to go trouncing thru the bugtracker.
16:25.08jonpryf%^&*( liar!
16:25.23arrrghhhlol
16:25.28arrrghhhi had a bunch of trouble disabling it
16:25.33[acl]where is camro anyways..havent seen him in a while
16:25.34arrrghhhchange wouldn't persist.
16:25.41arrrghhhhis phone is so dead
16:25.46arrrghhhwe're thinking about getting him a donor
16:25.56jonprywhat happened to it?
16:26.25arrrghhhhe blew it up playing with battery values it sounds like
16:26.26[acl]arrrghhh: i can always ship out that raph i have.. i barely used it.. well maybe once to get back to haret
16:26.32arrrghhhi don't know if he was doing a hardware hack or aht
16:26.33arrrghhhwhat*
16:26.40arrrghhh[acl]: isn't it an 800 tho?
16:26.41[acl]arrrghhh: small sacrifice for the greater good
16:26.52arrrghhhindeed
16:26.59arrrghhhif it's an 800 he can't really *use* it.
16:27.24arrrghhhthe donor we're going to get him is a rhod400 - which has both cdma and gsm radios, so he could actually use it if he unlocks the sim slot.
16:27.49[acl]hmm
16:27.59[acl]im all for more rhod people
16:28.05arrrghhh:D
16:28.11jonpry400 is missing bands
16:28.51arrrghhhso 3g won't work er whut?
16:28.58[acl]get him whatever then
16:28.58arrrghhhthe owner made it sound like it did all of 'em lol
16:28.59[acl]:-p
16:30.38jonpryit depends on his carrier and stuff. sometimes even phone doesn't work
16:30.49arrrghhhhrm
16:31.12arrrghhhwell he'd have a fighting chance with the rhod.  with the raph800 there's no gsm radio whatsoever, so that's guaranteed not to work lol
16:31.13jonprymy my gf has a dual band blackberry. and it only supports one of the wireless providers in grenada
16:31.22jonpryfor sure :p
16:31.41arrrghhhyea i'd have to look up the specs, i have no clue what gsm bands this phone supports.
16:35.24[acl]jonpry: ok so this is my issue .. you know this code so im hoping your input will get me running. i dont know how the hell to register msm_fb msm_mddi msm_mdp properly.. i mean i have them starting up i think but no vsyncs
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16:36.13[acl]jonpry: well vsyncs i think is because my request irq for vsync is failing..
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16:40.04PUTAShy devs
16:40.17ocmPutas.....really
16:40.20[acl]arrrghhh: am i invisible or something
16:40.31arrrghhhi can read what you're saying
16:40.39arrrghhhi am just no help so i'm not responding [acl] :P
16:40.56[acl]when in doubt.. gchat
16:40.57[acl]:-p
16:41.01arrrghhhhahaha
16:41.05PUTASocm?!
16:41.11jonpry[acl] yeah i am here
16:41.58jonprymdp regs should have anything to do with irq request
16:42.19jonpryr u trying the lcdc stuff now?
16:42.51[acl]jonpry: nahh .. i made rhod its own mddi file that looks very similar to the old novtec client we used
16:42.58threeaglearrghhh: was the good news for the hd2?
16:43.12arrrghhhthreeagle: you guys get enough.
16:43.21arrrghhh:P  no i don't have an hd2.
16:43.38ocmhes got a tp2, jonpry
16:43.52threeagleits a fine piece of electronics
16:44.41[acl]jonpry: i saw the .35 code you have and i took the same style. I just dont know how you are incorporating the panel into the mix.
16:44.57arrrghhheh i love my physical keyboard too much.  that, and the hd2 isn't available on my preferred carrier!
16:45.15jonpry[acl]: so there is no -panel file
16:45.24ocmunlock it? lol
16:45.42arrrghhhocm: cdma?
16:45.49PUTASarrrghhh i've one to sell =) unlocked~
16:45.50PUTASxD
16:45.54[acl]jonpry: yeah .. so everything is on the board, but all the info to enable vsync and all that poop.. dont know where it goes.
16:46.02PUTASi want g2 :P
16:46.08arrrghhhPUTAS: cdma?!?!
16:46.21arrrghhhwe shouldn't talk about this in here tho guys.
16:46.25PUTASno
16:46.28PUTASgsm 3g
16:46.32PUTASwcdma
16:46.32arrrghhhyou're already in -chat, let's keep it there.
16:46.38arrrghhhstfu, go to chat!
16:46.39PUTASok
16:46.48jonpry[acl] you have something like mddi_client_nt33582.c?
16:47.16jonpryand this is failing for you: ret = request_irq(irq, nt35582_vsync_interrupt, IRQF_TRIGGER_RISING,
16:47.16jonpry<PROTECTED>
16:47.31[acl]jonpry: no, i made a mddi_rhodium.c which yes does request irq for me.
16:48.23jonpryand your sure the irq number is good when you request it? and the gpio has been requested and granted?
16:48.45[acl]yeah.. gpi stuff is fine. but the request itself gives me an EBUSY
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16:49.15[acl]so im wondering if something internally on the mddihosti.c file is doing it for me. cant tell .. that code is confusing
16:49.27[acl]i suppose i will have to go printk crazy worse case
16:49.30[acl]:-\
16:50.05jonpryhmm looks like i never checked if that succeeded on .35
16:50.48[acl]only reason i know is because i have a printk on my irq handler that never got called.. so figured i wasnt getting it
16:51.24jonprythat could be because of console lock
16:51.50[acl]hmm.. explain thyself
16:52.01jonpryEBUSY would seem to indicate something else has already requested it
16:52.15jonpryfreaking mdp update stops all printk from working
16:52.46[acl]jonpry: i have full usb so i can debug all the way through.. so /dev/fb0 is never created for me. Usb will prob work for you on .35
16:52.48jonprymaybe try changing the gpio number to something else
16:53.16jonpry[acl] the printk update block is for all consoles
16:54.38[acl]jonpry: i get irqs for mdp and mddi just fine
16:56.50jonprythe console lock probably won't happen if your not using fb_console
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16:57.11[acl]jonpry: i may have to upload my code so you can take a look
16:57.25[acl]im kinda stuck right now..
16:57.39jonpryanyways, you need to trace request_irq. to either see why it is failing, or more likely see what is requesting the irq before you
16:58.22[acl]jonpry: probabbly the mddihosti.c ... that has some sort of request but i never traced it. if it does request it for me then i should see it on the /proc/ interrupts but its not there.. so who knows
17:01.21jonpryprint_symbol("caller is %s\n", (long)__builtin_return_address(0));
17:01.36[acl]oo
17:02.26jonpryfor the faint of heart
17:03.34[acl]wtf does this do ?
17:04.20jonpryif you put it in request_irq for example it will tell you the name+offset of the function calling request_irq
17:04.55GNUtoo|laptophi
17:05.05GNUtoo|laptopyou had spam on the wiki right?
17:05.10GNUtoo|laptophow did you get rid of it?
17:05.22GNUtoo|laptopbecause we have the exact same techique used on freesmartphone.orgt
17:05.30GNUtoo|laptop*http://wiki.freesmartphone.org
17:05.38GNUtoo|laptop*technique
17:06.15GNUtoo|laptopis it possible to revert all stuff done by a user?
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17:08.07[acl]jonpry: lets hope tonight i can get some info on that irq.
17:10.02jonpryfor sure
17:11.22jonpryhow are wistilt2's kernels coming?
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17:11.48arrrghhhhe's been knockin down the bugs
17:11.56jonpryworking on PM?
17:12.00arrrghhhhaven't seen him in a week tho.  he likes to do that.  swoop in, fix a bunch of crap and then disappear.
17:12.16arrrghhhlast bugfix session he got speakerphone mic workin
17:12.45arrrghhhhe's still holdin out on the whole button/kbd light thing until the mic/speakerphone stuff is settled i think...
17:12.46PohketBeen waiting to see him to fix up those 6125 tables
17:12.55arrrghhhi thought he did...?
17:13.01arrrghhhdid the tables never get committed?
17:13.14PohketThere are like 6 tables, every other device has 3
17:13.21Pohketwe were gonna sort 'em out and fix it up
17:13.39arrrghhhhrm
17:13.40arrrghhhnot sure
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17:13.57arrrghhhwhen he talked about the tables i got the impression they were done
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17:13.59PohketHe said there were still some lingering bugs
17:14.10Pohketon Sat. night anyways
17:14.44arrrghhhk
17:14.48arrrghhhdoesn't know then :P
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17:19.02arrrghhhso how's the new system image Pohket ?
17:19.51jonpryso who is going to fix the jitter?
17:20.22jonprywe can't just turn it off
17:21.36jonprysounds like a project for stinebd :p
17:21.49arrrghhhi didn't think jit was supported on our architecture anyways...
17:22.02arrrghhhseems like we never should've had it enabled in the first place :P
17:22.32jonpryit supposedly works for armv6
17:22.43jonprythere is code and options at least. but apparently bugs
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17:23.06arrrghhhyea
17:23.20arrrghhhand it seems jit wouldn't help speed up our systems that much anyways... what's the point?
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17:24.04jonpryit depends on what your running, but 20x improvements for some operations are not unheard of
17:24.35jonprythat could also mean lots of battery life even if there is no noticeable difference
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17:26.24arrrghhhhrm
17:26.40arrrghhhstine didn't seem to keen on hacking up jit lol
17:27.23bzojit was disabled by default on froyo for armv6, the repo was hacked to force it on
17:27.37bzoguess there was a reason it was disabled
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17:29.41[acl]ahhh man .. finally more familiar faces.. i was getting sick of those damn hd2 people :-p
17:30.14arrrghhhlol
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17:30.30bzoif WisTilt2 shows up, it'll be a party
17:30.42arrrghhhbzo: did you see the news?  seems like stine fixed every bug on the tracker just by disabling jit lol
17:30.58F22jonpry: (12:20:02 AM) stinebd: jit? no way in hell i'm messing with that. <--- :P
17:31.28jonpry:p
17:31.29bzowell, guess we should think twice about forcing stuff on that google has disabled :P
17:31.43arrrghhhhahahaha
17:31.45arrrghhhindeed
17:31.58arrrghhhmother google knows best :P
17:32.18bzomore like big brother google
17:32.22[acl]arrrghhh: not tru.. they are still using that damn frame buffer that was written by adam and even.. its that old
17:32.25arrrghhhindeed
17:32.25F22i recall because i asked him the question last night. ;)
17:32.31[acl]*adam and eve
17:32.38arrrghhhlol
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17:33.50MN-hd2hello all
17:35.00F22after he said jit on armv5te was abandoned because the optimizations were minimal at best and the targets had too little memory to benefit realistically, i asked him if he'd be willing to adopt the orphan, the answer he gave was the one I just listed.
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18:21.49MN-hd2hi markinus
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18:35.11pr0d1gyhello, has anyone been working on HaRET recently? :) i need some help
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19:11.04stinebdlol adam and eve
19:11.34stinebdgod created the framebuffer in 6 days
19:12.39jonpryand on the seventh day he made htc?
19:12.50jonpryor linux
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19:13.21stinebdon the 7th day he recovered from his hangover
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19:17.15Padre|-учше?
19:17.29Padre|-sorry, wrong channel
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19:27.27[acl]im insulted that there is a fake cotulla and no fake acl :-(
19:28.04[acl]stinebd: i hope this frame buffer is worth it bro.. .. but if it does fire up then jonpry has a clear path to success on .35
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19:34.35bzo[acl] if we can get on 35, there's also a promising scheduler patch to try
19:34.42bzohttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
19:35.21[acl]interesting
19:35.25[acl]maybe then there will be a fake acl
19:36.49pr0d1gy_hello, has anyone been working on HaRET recently? :) i need some help
19:37.59jonpryi don't think anyone has done anything to haret in quite some time. but i know some of the internals
19:40.19pr0d1gy_i am trying to boot andoird on q9h
19:40.25pr0d1gy_android*
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19:47.32JesusFreak316Um, pr0digy, the Moto q9h has no touchscreen; wouldn't Android be pretty much useless on there?
19:49.03pr0d1gy_true, but i just want to see if a linux with a good rootfs would run using haret
19:49.22pr0d1gy_if it does, i would make my own rootfs & rn my own kernel :)
19:49.27pr0d1gy_run*
19:50.14JesusFreak316Ok, is there a linux kernel for the q9h yet?
19:50.15pr0d1gy_since more work has been done on android using HaRET, getting help with android seems more likel y :D
19:51.07gauner1986hi
19:51.07pr0d1gy_there is a porting strategy, since q9h has bootloader mode. but not much developement has been made in that area
19:51.19MarkinusHI gauner
19:51.42pr0d1gy_the strategy has been listed here http://wiki.openezx.org/Q9h
19:52.16JesusFreak316Ok, you'd need other people to actually help you.
19:52.53ocmdidnt the openezx project die with the E2?
19:53.28pr0d1gy_i am not able to understand where exactly look for help, since handhelds.org is down
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19:53.52pr0d1gy_openezx project is still active, considerabl amount of is being /has been done :)
19:54.09gauner1986Markinus: some good news? :)
19:54.29Markinusgauner1986: hmmm  ..  . no
19:54.52gauner1986not good :(
19:54.58Markinusgauner1986: whats problem?
19:55.07gauner1986it's boring :D
19:55.15Markinusgauner1986: hehe ;)
19:55.34MarkinusI trying some new build
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19:55.38Markinuss
19:55.46gauner1986that are?
19:55.59Markinusgauner1986: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843951
19:56.09Markinusgauner1986: nice idea
19:56.27gauner1986that should be the same as my desire build
19:57.01gauner1986wtf
19:57.04gauner19861839 @ quadrant
19:57.08gauner1986how did he do this?
19:57.25Markinusgauner1986: I don't mean the performance
19:57.28Markinusthe structure
19:57.35Markinusis very original desire
19:57.38Markinuswith rights etc
19:57.42gauner1986okay
19:57.42Markinusand a update structure
19:58.51gauner1986yeah.. it's basically the same than mine with some update service and fixed rights
19:58.54Markinusgauner1986: this would be a nice Idea for nand
19:59.06Markinusgauner1986:  updates on sd, boot, and they copy it to nand
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20:01.54gauner1986yeah
20:02.23Markinusand if there a kernel update copy to boot partition and automatic reboot
20:02.28Markinus:)
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20:05.38Markinusgauner1986: this would be a safe way for "normal" users
20:06.07Rajkospot clean, system.img is a exact dump of unyaffs (with permissions) to ext2, not 1 bit modified
20:06.08Rajkowat
20:06.11Rajkoyou have to replace libs
20:07.14MarkinusRajko: yeah, this do the initrd script, copy the libs and init files
20:07.34MarkinusRajko: I like this clean way . .good righs are very nice
20:08.30Rajkobut it does some copying like EVERY boot
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20:08.43Rajkowhich is what i didnt like about the normal sd inits
20:09.13MarkinusRajko: hmm, yes, there should be a switch
20:09.19Markinusthat's done only one time
20:09.56Markinuson nand
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20:12.12gauner1986that's not very nice to nand flash
20:12.17gauner1986copying it every time
20:12.40Markinusgauner1986:  on nand with a switch
20:12.49Markinuswith a marker, done
20:12.51Markinusor so
20:12.57Markinusfor updates
20:13.08gauner1986hm
20:13.13gauner1986end users have to be more geeky
20:13.14gauner1986:P
20:13.47gauner1986btw.. i just was at tv total
20:13.47gauner1986:D
20:13.48Markinuselse they have to mount the partitions by hand . .. risky
20:14.04Markinushehe
20:14.30Rajkojust normal android init for me thx
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20:20.55gauner1986rajko: what do you have at quadrant atm?
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20:21.38gauner1986friend of mine showed me the graphics performance of the galaxy s... that made me sad T_T
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20:29.02Rajkogauner1986, yep
20:29.06Rajkoit made me sad too
20:30.00gauner1986that's why i won't buy the desire hd
20:30.00Markinusgauner1986: but what will you do with it? there isn't enough apps for it. . . . for me is the motorola defy the much more better Idea . . :)
20:30.11gauner1986graphics performance of the s is still better
20:30.41gauner1986hm.. better games performance @ markinus
20:31.02Markinusgauner1986: are there so much games which need it?
20:31.29Rajkoon windows 7 there are
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20:34.24gauner1986hm.. there might be a few in the future
20:34.44Markinusgauner1986: yeah, then there is a dual core monster :)
20:34.46gauner1986i'll get me a new phone in the middle of the next year
20:34.48gauner1986yeah
20:34.53gauner1986when some dual core monster is out
20:35.00DuperManLG LG LG
20:35.06Markinushehe
20:35.26gauner1986some phone with xda support of course
20:35.30JesusFreak316LG Tegra 2 phone?
20:35.49JesusFreak316is waiting for http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/18/qualcomm-teases-28nm-dual-core-snapdragons-pixel-punching-adren/
20:35.54DuperManLG LG LG
20:36.03DuperManoooooooooooh
20:36.55DuperManbut qualcomm always appears to be a step behind the proverbial curve
20:40.22Markinusgauner1986: this is nice hardware  http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2193&c=lg_apollo_gw990 , you can try to port :)
20:40.27DuperManis gonna be paying simulataniously for two phones for six months, by how shit's shaping
20:40.47arrrghhhlol
20:40.54arrrghhhmadness
20:40.56JesusFreak316That's the Moorestown phone, right?
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20:41.30DuperMan5.times.
20:41.53gauner1986hm
20:41.57gauner1986leo is looking way better
20:42.21Markinusthis right . ..
20:42.27DuperMan1gb ram
20:42.28gauner1986and who releases a wm6.5 phone now? :P
20:42.36DuperMan1gb ram
20:42.44Markinus10 Mp camera with 1x optical zoom. 1.3 GHz
20:42.53Markinusgauner1986: hehe
20:43.06DuperManeh... 1x zoom is no zoom
20:43.08DuperMan><
20:43.20DuperManit makes the picture one times as big as it was
20:45.01gauner1986yay
20:45.05gauner19861x optical zoom
20:45.13DuperMan720 x 1280
20:45.14gauner1986what a marketing-lie
20:45.15DuperManthat'shot
20:45.39DuperManthat's hot*
20:45.44Markinusyes . .
20:46.15DuperMancores?
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22:28.33cedesmithquote: Rajko but it does some copying like EVERY boot
22:28.45cedesmithnope, files are deleted after install
22:28.49cedesmithonly done once
22:28.56Rajkopersistent /
22:28.57Rajkothigny
22:29.41cedesmithblank init files are copyed to /system if init files do not exist on /system
22:29.49cedesmiththen symlinked to /
22:29.54cedesmithfor init.android
22:30.40cedesmiththen when install script is runned it copy real files from desire ( untouched tho renamed from .bravo.rc to .htcleo.rc )
22:31.02cedesmiththen files are edited with sed to put leo settings
22:31.18cedesmithso changes are easy to spot and clear
22:31.43cedesmithjust take a look at install.init..7z
22:31.45Markinuscedesmith: I likke byou ideas and boot, but it isn't booting on my device
22:31.47cedesmithin post 2
22:32.02Markinuscedesmith: reset after some seconds, seems problem in init
22:32.08Markinuscedesmith: every other build works
22:32.09cedesmithcluster size for dos partition
22:32.41cedesmithi compiled dosfsck from latest dosfstools and i think it has a problem with cluster size
22:32.56cedesmithworks if i format card from windows mobile
22:33.13Markinuswhy only in this build?
22:33.36cedesmithi recompiled busybox, dosfsck and e2fsck
22:33.42cedesmithto get them to 500kb
22:33.45cedesmithall 3
22:33.51Markinusahh, ok, maybe some error checking more active
22:34.03Markinusok
22:34.46Markinuscedesmith: bu I cannot reformat my card, it'S 32 GB
22:34.52Markinusand 26 full . .
22:34.58Markinus:)
22:35.08cedesmithdon't you have a smaller one ?
22:35.14Markinusno . .
22:35.35cedesmithi use a 2gb card for devel not to wear my bigger one
22:36.01Markinusahh, ok, but I will use it all day, so it have to be on it
22:36.31Markinushmm, class 2, take hours to copy the stuff
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22:36.59cedesmithis 700mb, 5 minutes or so
22:37.09cedesmithoo your data
22:37.22Markinusyeah
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22:38.20cedesmithwell... anyway not that interesting.... just another desire build nothing that special
22:38.38cedesmithi think interesting part is in post 2  and 3
22:38.42MarkinusI like the no changed rights
22:39.10Markinuson most of the builds, most files are a+rwx
22:39.34cedesmithwitch is wrong
22:39.39Markinusyes
22:39.52cedesmiththere is a unyaffs mod that sets permissions, i used that for system
22:40.11Markinusnice
22:40.25cedesmithand for the rest i just locked at permissions in original system.img to set it exactly the same
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22:40.54cedesmithcard is mounted without x on files anyway
22:41.23cedesmithas is a big big security hole
22:42.11Markinusyes, this is a good way
22:42.33cedesmithanyway if i got you chatty... :D any idea why i can't get rmnet to work with linux-on-wince-htc ?
22:42.51cedesmithi did insmod the module and removed wrapper from rild service
22:43.03cedesmithbut does not work, did i miss something ?
22:44.16cedesmithalso set mtu from adb but connect never ends
22:45.14Rajkoyou cant
22:45.18Rajkothe wince one is broken in evo
22:48.21Markinuscedesmith: I couldn'T find the reason why the exactly same driver not works in evo build
22:48.38Markinuscedesmith: but on nexus
22:49.03Markinuscedesmith: I checked the smd stuff, etc. all same
22:50.14cedesmithhm... the thing is that 1st builds before ppp worked great for me and had bigger transfer speeds
22:50.23cedesmithi would liked that but is no biggie
22:51.44Markinusyeahg, I will look one times more, maybe I can find the reason
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23:06.30cedesmithgod 2577 in quadrant http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9290972&postcount=45
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23:08.35JesusFreak316O.o
23:08.56JesusFreak316What makes it so good? Did they fix the 3d somewhat?
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23:09.22cedesmithno
23:09.43JesusFreak316What do you get with your build?
23:10.11cedesmith1850ish
23:10.36JesusFreak316Sheesh. How the crap did he do that?
23:10.45Rajkoi like how nobody uses quadrant pro
23:10.51Scrizzhax
23:10.51Rajkoso you cant see wtf they cheated on
23:10.55Scrizzyeah
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23:11.16Scrizzi can't believe ppl still use that benchmark
23:11.18Scrizzugh
23:11.59cedesmithi for one needed a picture on 1st post :)
23:12.52cedesmithcan't care less for banchmarks
23:15.20cedesmithi think extra speed comes from /data being mounted without sync ( not for speed but for less wear ) and maybe some dir that was on rootfs is now on ram
23:16.27JesusFreak316Yeah, 3d was just wishful thinking, I knew it had to be some hackish thing probably with the fs.
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23:18.24cedesmithwait for lg with nvidia :P
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