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00:11.09tipper_Any leo dev here? After unlocking and fast re unlocking  device gets out of memory so GC have to cleanup wich takes sometime and could cause slow wakeup I think.
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02:10.19Aevumcould the SPL version be the reason linux hangs all the time ?
02:10.21Aevumandroid
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02:19.38arrrghhhAevum, doubtful.  very doubtful indeed.
02:19.51Aevumim trying to track down the issue
02:20.36Aevummight be this cheapo apacer microSD card
02:20.48Aevumthe phone randomy dies and eats up the battery
02:21.16Aevumits not like the light sensor that i put the phone near a good light source and it revives
02:21.22Aevumthis wont even respond to bottons
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04:16.55curiousGeorgeWhy can't we run cyanogenMod kernel on our HD2?
04:17.05curiousGeorgeWhat are the technical limitations? It won't boot...
04:17.59curiousGeorgeThis could finally be the key to unlocking the potential of our device. Graphics drivers 60% faster than stock are being committed soon (it looks like it at least)... and 720p playback can happen, too, correct?
04:18.48curiousGeorgeThe lack of HE-AAC support, lack of B-frame (and anything above level 3) AVC support, etc... all truly pathetic. The snapdragon DSP drivers need to be updated for the HD2
04:19.08curiousGeorgeAnybody?
04:23.01vegamanleo folks won't be around for a while
04:23.26vegamanMarkinus knows more about why cm kernel won't boot than me
04:23.34tmzt_dg2rootit would boot, but it would have to be modified
04:24.14vegamanwell I and he both ported all the leo things and it wouldn't boot
04:24.20vegamanso there must be some other changes
04:24.33vegamanothers have probably tried too
04:25.53curiousGeorgestrange...
04:26.05curiousGeorgeand nobody knows why? (or at least, not many)
04:26.08vegamanif I feel like it later I might have a look at the new qdsp6 though
04:26.26curiousGeorgeoh wow, that would be fantastic.
04:26.39curiousGeorgeit's such a shame these devices shipped with such crippled drivers.
04:26.41curiousGeorgewhy?
04:26.48tmzt_dg2rootdrivers?
04:26.53curiousGeorgeerm
04:26.55vegamanno idea how many changes have been made though, might not be easy to port
04:26.59tmzt_dg2rootseems you need different firmware also
04:27.12tmzt_dg2rootwhat does it do if you try to boot?
04:27.16curiousGeorgeyes, a new firmware most likely
04:27.27curiousGeorgeit simply crashes before it makes any headway
04:27.41curiousGeorgerather, it dies
04:28.40tmzt_dg2rootokay, where
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05:06.33curiousGeorgehuh, that's odd
05:07.04arrrghhhfind an electric fence curiousGeorge ?
05:07.21curiousGeorgeXD
05:07.23curiousGeorgeoh yes
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05:08.25curiousGeorgehttp://www.androidpolice.com/2010/08/21/android-on-htc-hd2-thats-so-last-month-try-cyanogenmod-6-on-hd2/
05:08.32curiousGeorgehow come there's info on sites like this?
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05:09.40vegamanwhy not? they can post anything they feel like
05:10.27curiousGeorgebut it's blatant lies??
05:10.56arrrghhhi guess i'm missing something.
05:11.11vegamanwhat is blatant lies?
05:12.52curiousGeorgewell, getting CM running on the HD2
05:13.25stinebd?
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05:14.07vegamanI don't understand... you can run CM on HD2
05:14.18arrrghhhindeed
05:14.41curiousGeorgethe kernel? the qualcom dsps?
05:14.55vegamanno, the rest of cm
05:15.03arrrghhhyea the build
05:15.10arrrghhhjust like on the msm's too
05:15.23curiousGeorgewell well that's somewhat less interesting XD
05:15.30ocmdid you read the entire article? It says to replace the kernel for cotulla's
05:15.34arrrghhhbut still not 'blatant lies'
05:15.36curiousGeorgeyeah i just did
05:15.39arrrghhhlmao
05:15.52curiousGeorgea classic case of tl;dr screwing me over
05:16.00ocmyup lol
05:16.07curiousGeorgei got to "cm running on the h--" and blood filled my vision XD
05:16.19ocmwell im off
05:16.50curiousGeorgefrom hitting the head too hard against the palm... rather an epic facepalm that should now be performed AT me, rather than BY me
05:16.54vegamanwell it should be about kernels in here, so if people saying can't get cm booting mean cm-kernel
05:17.04curiousGeorgeanyway, yes, the kernel.
05:17.26arrrghhhfeel better now that you've got blood flow to the rest of your limbs?
05:17.47curiousGeorgeso much more so. also thanks to the electric fence from earlier
05:18.48arrrghhhno worries, your name just reminded me of that mock book
05:18.57arrrghhhcurious george and the high-powered electric fence.
05:19.49curiousGeorgeah the childrens' books that didn't make it
05:20.14vegamanI thought you were named after the monkey
05:20.58arrrghhhindeed
05:22.23curiousGeorgeah, that's what my mother didn't tell me >.<
05:22.46curiousGeorgeanyway, still no luck here. i'm sure this has been tried countless times before though, and *nobody* ( hmmm) knows why
05:23.36curiousGeorge(850mV works by the way. in reference to the forum post, you know the one)
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05:25.34vegamanwhat are you trying?
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05:27.53curiousGeorgegit clone git://github.com/CyanogenMod/cm-kernel.git
05:28.24vegamanyeah, wouldn't work for me, couldn't be bothered asking someone so I just downloaded the tarball
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05:38.13vegamanlooking at the CA qdsp code at the moment, bit annoying with all their pmem changes and stuff
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05:49.33HunterlllIs cotulla on this android client sucks
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05:56.34vegamanHunterkll doesn't seem to be
05:58.04vegamangonna try some 720p tests with a newer qdsp... know of a good almost stock CM build to use to test with?
05:59.00vegamanoh, that was supposed to be Hunterlll
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06:41.44curiousGeorge720p tests? Make sure they are actually playable by other devices -- you might want to stick to baseline w/1 ref at 1280x720 in mp4 with aac-lc
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07:16.22curiousGeorgeany luck with the 720p?
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07:18.19curiousGeorgevegaman?
07:19.50Aevumon what phone ?
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07:39.43curiousGeorgehd2/leo
07:39.45curiousGeorgewell i'm off to bed in a few :) 'night all
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09:40.49gauner1986hi
09:41.09Cassehlo gauner1986
09:41.22hastarinhowdy to both of you
09:41.30Casshi
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09:43.40hastarinBTW gauner1986 did you see the "workaround" for getting notification LEDs to work?
09:43.54gauner1986hastarin: you mean usb cable plugged?
09:44.01hastarinYeah
09:44.01gauner1986hastarin: didn't work for me
09:44.15gauner1986hastarin: but i would be curious what you have in adb logcat | grep lights
09:44.51hastarinIn build/kernel hell atm trying to sort out these camera changes, but I can get that for you later.
09:44.58gauner1986okay
09:45.00gauner1986great
09:49.50gauner1986hastarin: and what rom you have
09:50.39hastarinmdeejay Clean Sense 2.3
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10:02.01gauner1986okay, same build i had problems with before
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10:03.57hastarinYeah, and I'd had problems with it except when I boot with the cable in, though not sure it stays fixed through charges, etc
10:04.07vegamanjust about to try this change on hd2 https://github.com/cyanogen/cm-kernel-exp/commit/2023843f2204f5bc84c3c83bd2d48a62d00f3832 see if it improves performance at all
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10:06.49hastaringauner1986: Do you need me to trigger a notification before getting the logcat?
10:09.18gauner1986yeaj
10:09.31gauner1986http://pastebin.com/GYAawNXQ
10:09.35gauner1986do it in this fashion please
10:10.07gauner1986if your output is the same we don't have a solution ^^
10:11.00vegamanslight performance improvement with the CM commit I linked above, was previously getting 21.8 fps in nenamark, now getting 22.1 (did 3 tests to make sure I got the same fps on each)
10:14.01hastaringauner1986: Stupid light sensor is spamming it.  Light got stuck on too.  I notice it does that if it flashes as you drag down notification bar.
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10:15.39vegamanyay, gets me 32.1 fps in neocore too, I'll try quadrant next
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10:17.15hastaringauner1986: Is this any use?  http://pastebin.com/8ghREEyh
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10:17.46hastarinSorry but I don't know exactly when I made the call and cleared it
10:17.48gauner1986hastarin: you need to write what you did before
10:18.04gauner1986you may have the usb cable connected while you do it
10:18.22hastaringauner1986: But then I won't see the notification leds will I?
10:18.40gauner1986no, but log will log it anyway
10:18.46gauner1986it's fine
10:18.52vegaman433 on 3d in quadrant, not sure if that's a big difference?
10:20.25hastarinhttp://pastebin.com/0jyn8PCg
10:20.56hastarinNOTE: clear notification = before I dragged down the bar.  It spat out that last line only after I hit clear I think.
10:21.41gauner1986okay
10:21.50gauner1986you have the same behavior in logs
10:23.00gauner1986so notifications can't really work
10:23.15hastarinHuh?
10:23.24hastarinThey definitely work.  I see the thing blinking.  :p
10:23.31gauner1986yeah
10:23.37gauner1986it blinks maybe
10:23.41gauner1986but not correctly
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10:23.47gauner1986and isnt cleared correctly
10:23.59hastarinI've tested it with calls, google talk, emails, and sms
10:24.36hastarinIt blinks every go using the cable trick for me.  Maybe something to do with haret boot.
10:28.18fakkeri broke up with gf
10:28.18fakker;o
10:28.37vegamanbetter than her breaking up with you, mine did that to me last week
10:28.49gauner1986fakker: why? not hot enough anymore? :P
10:28.53gauner1986yeah
10:28.56gauner1986better than being left
10:29.04fakkerno, she's a stupid bitch
10:29.06fakkerfuck her
10:29.39gauner1986because she took your xbox controllers away?
10:29.40gauner1986:p
10:29.42vegamanlol
10:29.53fakkera part of it
10:29.55fakkerjust in general
10:30.00fakkeri told her to fuck off back to latvia
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10:38.09LeTamahello guys
10:40.11gauner1986hey letama
10:41.45hastarinHey LeTama
10:42.43vegamandiff for the changes I made to kgsl if anyone's interested http://pastebin.com/rkS539jZ
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10:43.01vegamanjust testing a clean patch and compile to make sure it goes well
10:43.19vegamanchanges I made copying from CM I should say lol
10:43.52hastarinDid you try to cherry-pick it from there?
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10:44.23vegamanjust did it manually cause, didn't think it would apply cleanly
10:45.44hastarinFair enough. I'll see if I can do it shortly.  :)
10:46.32hastarinI see an 8.3a in my future, maybe tomorrow night though.  :p
10:46.40vegamanhehe
10:47.26hastarinAny other tidbits I should know about?  ;)
10:47.48vegamanhaven't found anything else useful I can think of
10:48.18hastarinDamn, at the rate it's fetching from github it will be tomorrow night before I can do anything with it!
10:48.21vegamanmeant to try backporting that new ~200 line wonder patch to 2.6.32
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10:51.46vegamanhmm, so on my clean apply of the patch I seem to be getting 21.8 again...
10:52.00vegamanonly other changes I made before were to vfp, guess I'll have to look at that again
10:52.49hastarinFeel free to let me know what you figure out.  I'm definitely not going to fiddle/test myself tonight.
10:52.59tipper_Any leo dev here? I looked at some logs and after locking and fast re unlocking  device gets out of memory so GC (garbage cleaner) have to cleanup wich takes sometime and could cause slow wakeup I think.
10:53.53vegamanhastarin, will do, for now I'm mostly looking at commits on CM that could be useful to us too, since we can't get cm-kernel working for now
10:54.08LeTamatipper_: it has probably nothing to do with kernel. Seems more like a build problem if problem it is
10:54.34hastarinvegaman: Thanks.  :)
10:56.43tipper_@letama  you can check if a referencequeue is used, because it provides more control over the way the VM deals with references during garbage collection.
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11:04.33tipper_But you are right it can also be a build problem maybe add allocation free code before locking so It can prevent gc is needed but I am not sure about that.
11:07.07LeTamatipper_: yes this is Build/Java/VM problem, we don't do much on this kernel side afaik
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11:11.41tipper_Ok thx for that only strange thing I noticed when fast locking and unlocking  I got two time a pokewakelock of 7000 and two of 2000 that is strange becaucse normal it is 5000.(long delay before screen came back when I got that)But  how is it possible that that value gets changed?
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11:18.55tipper_Not a kernel issue I discovered sorry about that
11:19.20LeTamatipper_: no problem. no idea about the wakelock
11:22.42tipper_btw when I was searching I found a mailing list with same problems about ppp as we got maybe it is usefull for you http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JMViBxX81M0J:www.mail-archive.com/android-porting%40googlegroups.com/msg10849.html+pokewakelock+kernel&cd=6&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=nl&client=firefox-a       yeah google web cache otherwise you cant view (need login)
11:23.03tipper_Anyway got to go now goodluck
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11:38.00vegamanhastarin, went back through and it seems this http://pastebin.com/wfzzdJUh made the performance difference (only about .3fps or 1.5% though)
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11:39.01vegamanhmm, doesn't look good though
11:39.38vegamancpu isn't changing frequency with that change... oh well, back to the drawing board I guess
11:40.55hastarinOK thanks I might not fiddle with that other one then.
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11:41.07hastarinJust noticed I stuffed up releasing 8.3, need to get 8.3a sorted ASAP.  :(
11:41.25vegamanyeah, better to wait till the changes go into cm stable at least
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12:07.32vegamanok, reverted the pm.c patch cause they didn't speed up boot like they were supposed to and instead they broke frequency scaling, testing graphics performance again
12:09.11hastarinChecking what went wrong with my 8.3a here.
12:09.18hastarinSomehow it was missing the actual kernel!
12:09.22hastarin:S
12:09.29vegamanstrange
12:10.18hastarinYeah, maybe my build script screwed up.
12:10.41hastarinThe hassle of trying to rush stuff out on a weeknight.
12:11.09vegamanhaha
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12:23.10DuperManhey hastarin, know it probably won't happen but wish you'll move cifs back into the kernel. module form doesn't work here.
12:23.42hastarinModule works fine.  Load it with "Cifs Manager" app if you can't get it loaded via a script.
12:24.35DuperManoh ok. sorry for being stupid and forgetting I could do that:)
12:24.44DuperManthanks for a great kernel
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12:25.36hastarinYou're welcome.  Just in case you can't find it.   http://goo.gl/y5z3s
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17:43.43gauner1986hi markinus
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18:01.03arrrghhhperhaps some knowledgeable individual could shed some light on this problem - what is the difference between MSM and QSD?  why do some snapdragon procs start with MSM and some with QSD?
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18:17.41uub11arrrghhh, you're using blazing not the reference build for rhod right?
18:17.55Rajkoarrrghhh, qsd are snapdragon
18:17.56arrrghhhi use all
18:17.59Rajkomsm are not
18:18.01arrrghhhRajko: so are msm
18:18.03arrrghhhLIES
18:18.10arrrghhhRajko: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28processor%29#Current_.26_Future_Specifications.5B12.5D.5B13.5D.5B14.5D
18:18.10RajkoQUALCOMM SNAP DRAGON = qsd
18:18.21Rajkono
18:18.26arrrghhhthen why is a MSM proc in the new desire Z?
18:18.28Rajkothey only label their high end stuff snapdragon
18:18.33Rajkomid end is MSM
18:18.38Rajkomid end
18:18.43Rajkodesire HD has qsd
18:18.47arrrghhhmsm is still snapdragon tho...?
18:18.52arrrghhhi know.  which also seems weird to me.
18:18.59arrrghhhi guess the Z isn't a high-end phone?
18:19.06Rajkosense takes more cpu than froyo native
18:19.21arrrghhhyea
18:19.47Rajkothe high high end will be the 1.3ghz parts
18:20.13arrrghhhwell way to make it confusing qualcomm.  now noobs think the stupid desire Z is similar to the rhodium because the proc is msm7k... oy ve.
18:20.27uub11arrrghhh has livewallpapers ever worked for you on the reference version
18:20.30arrrghhhoh and it kinda looks similar.  RUBES
18:20.51RajkoMMMMM BOMBS
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18:20.57arrrghhhuub11: never used live wallpaper.  it was removed from reference, poor performance.  but this talk is for #xdandroid
18:20.58JohnSheridannaabs
18:21.03JohnSheridan:D
18:21.09ocmlol
18:21.46uub11oh ok didn't realize it was removed because the option was still in the reference build to select
18:21.58gauner1986hi JohnSheridan
18:22.00gauner1986how is it?
18:22.01arrrghhhhrm.  dunno.  you probably have some apk's left over, i dunno.
18:22.17JohnSheridanqsd have qdsp6 inside, msm have not
18:22.24uub11no i gor it running because i was missing some libs
18:22.29uub11libsRS.so
18:22.35JohnSheridanand cpu is called "Scorpion"
18:22.37uub11and librs_ini.so
18:22.43JohnSheridan7630 also have scorpion inside
18:22.53arrrghhhJohnSheridan: oh that actually makes a lot more sense now... thanks!
18:23.21JohnSheridanMSM8255 it's different cpu from QSD8250
18:23.25JohnSheridanin a lot of things
18:23.33JohnSheridanit's not "a bit improved version"
18:23.55ocmso QSD2850 > MSM8255?
18:23.58arrrghhhyea, i was mainly asking about the MSM7230 vs MSM8255
18:24.00ocmor is it backwards?
18:24.29arrrghhh8255 has the newer gfx
18:24.32arrrghhhgpu
18:24.35ocmok
18:25.06JohnSheridan8255 is 1Ghz version of 7230
18:25.18JohnSheridanseems first number means power
18:25.38ocmah, ok
18:25.38JohnSheridan6 - low power, 7 - middle, 8 - high (1Ghz+)
18:25.43JohnSheridanbut it's my idea...
18:25.49ocmmakes sense
18:26.00arrrghhhseems fair
18:26.08F22it's marketing segmentation...
18:26.43F22same reason Intel has celerons...
18:27.18ocmand Pentium dual cores
18:27.19ocmlol
18:27.21JohnSheridanbut I don't think u will see differences 800 vs 1000
18:27.30JohnSheridanin UI it's should be same
18:27.43gauner1986benchmarks ftw
18:27.54JohnSheridanbenchmarks for lamerzzz
18:27.55JohnSheridan:D
18:27.58gauner1986you gotta know who has the larger penis
18:28.06JohnSheridanyeah
18:28.14arrrghhhlmao
18:28.17ocmi lol'd hard
18:28.37JohnSheridanmost benchmarks are incorrectly designed
18:30.45AstainHellbringmorning
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18:33.27MN-hd2hello all
18:34.28gauner1986if only we got magldr 1.09.. then life would be perfect. :P
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18:37.05AstainHellbringwhats new in 1.09?
18:37.49arrrghhhlol @ life being perfect !
18:38.30MN-hd2where is cotulla these days lol
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18:40.09MN-hd2ooo
18:40.18arrrghhhhe's that cat in your ceiling
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18:41.28jiogisomebody found a solution for LEDs notification on 3rd party app... would that be any possible to find the commands send from that app ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842850
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18:42.06Rajkoive been looking for him
18:42.08Rajkohe broke my xbo
18:42.09Rajkox
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18:44.01MN-hd2lol he broke your xbox shame :-P
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18:49.07MN-hd2is JohnSheridan cotulla :s
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18:50.48arrrghhhMN-hd2: are you paying him a salary or something?  lol, get back to work codeslave!
18:51.07lesjawguys any1 experience touch screen freeze after pressing back button in HD2? mine always ts freeze after pressing back button, to unfreeze i must lock and unlock screen, its just happen after weeks of use..
18:51.54MN-hd2no arrrghhh
18:52.15arrrghhhMN-hd2: then let him be.
18:53.34MN-hd2I was only asking cos he uses different names from Babylon 5
18:53.45MN-hd2and that is one
18:54.15arrrghhhwhy can't you just leave him be tho?
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18:54.30arrrghhhhe has to keep changing his name because people harass him.
18:54.55[acl]arrrghhh: ahh man .. i saw the ppcg post about the sense.. some people want it badly huh
18:55.10arrrghhhlol seriously.
18:55.18arrrghhhso bad they'll just completely ignore logic and reason
18:55.36arrrghhhbut is msm7k, it'll work!  it's the same proc!  oy ve.
18:58.35MN-hd2lol
19:02.54[acl]arrrghhh: whats the major noticeable difference between sense 2.1 and 2.2 ?
19:03.24arrrghhhwell the sense 2.1 rosie builds never quite fit right it seemed.
19:03.36arrrghhhbut i just tried it the other day, runs much better than i last recall.
19:03.51arrrghhhalthough i only tried rosie on my raph, don't think i ever gave it a shot on the rhod.
19:04.17[acl]arrrghhh: i used to use it all the time on the rhod.. love it.. just wondring whats the big hype of the 2.2..
19:04.31[acl]i mean shit im still running 2.1 on my galaxy s. . dont even know whats the point of 2.2 yet
19:04.42AstainHellbring2.2 is way faster
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19:05.00arrrghhh2.2 just has teh coolness like voice actions.
19:05.06DomZHi guys
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19:05.16[acl]AstainHellbring: really? like because of froyo itself or sense ?
19:05.21AstainHellbringfroyo
19:05.22arrrghhh2.2 definitely seemed to run better than 2.1, but again that was with ancient kernels.
19:05.39arrrghhhi haven't tried a 2.1 build with the newest kernels yet
19:05.44arrrghhhother than roise
19:05.46arrrghhhrosie
19:05.56[acl]arrrghhh: ahh kernel is fine.. our kernel is prob closer to .29 in reality..
19:06.02arrrghhhyea
19:06.07DomZHi Rajko, do you have some plans for a new rom with RMNET only (magldr 1.09) !?
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19:06.42RajkoYES
19:06.44RajkoWHERE MAGLDR
19:06.52arrrghhhGIMMIE
19:06.54DomZlol
19:06.58arrrghhhi heard hd2 tools will pay good money for it.
19:07.22arrrghhhi still can't believe people pay for that crap...
19:07.33Rajkoit makes the phone cooler
19:07.50arrrghhh$50 to drop something on your SD card?  c'mon.
19:07.59Rajkooh
19:08.02Rajkoi thought magldr
19:08.06DomZme too :)
19:08.10arrrghhhwell.  i'll take that too.
19:09.00arrrghhhand i'm sure fawkers on CL will sell it whenever it does get released.
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19:11.32DomZCotulla should add a note on magldr screen : "MAGLDR is totally free"
19:12.06JohnSheridanyeah maybe he should
19:12.18gauner1986:D
19:12.22DomZ:p
19:12.47RajkoNO IT COSTS
19:12.48RajkoMANHOURS
19:12.53RajkoAND TEARS OF COTULLA
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19:12.57Rajkowhen it doesnt work
19:13.02arrrghhhlol
19:13.05arrrghhhtears of rage
19:13.12Rajkofree as in beer not free as in speech tho
19:13.14DuperManit costs FREEDOM
19:13.17arrrghhhoh wait, that's me.
19:13.18DuperManas in foss
19:13.24JohnSheridanright.. so he need ur brains instead of using magldr
19:13.47DuperManmeh Rajko. beat be by 1 second
19:17.26[acl]arrrghhh: i can honestly tell you tho for us that 2.2 sense is slower .. my first tests were disappointing performance wise..
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19:19.05DuperManthis whole conversation is funny with gingerbread ~2 weeks away. just sayin'
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19:20.00AstainHellbringwonder what gingerbread will do
19:20.10gauner1986taste good?
19:20.15v1nsairun away?
19:21.21v1nsaiis there a release for it yet?  i saw something about it hitting nexus one ota real soon but it was a tweet by a developer nothing official
19:21.33arrrghhh[acl]: yea.  i'm not too excited for sense really.  everyone loves it so...
19:22.19arrrghhhfood time.  bbl.
19:22.19FsTluxegays
19:22.22DuperManarrrghhh: on the hd2 sense builds used to work better. BT and frills like it. dunno if it changed.
19:22.45FsTluxethis ism't -chat
19:22.52FsTluxeisn't :P
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19:23.48DuperManmot, it ism't. /spam
19:23.53RajkoDuperMan, everything works perfect on sense or cm just fine now
19:30.16JohnSheridandon't worry. after 2.3 release it won't work.
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19:37.07RajkoJohnSheridan, sure it will, we only replace videnc lib now
19:37.10Rajkoand libgps
19:40.33fakkerbullshit russian
19:42.04FsTluxebroo's where is Cotulla
19:42.10FsTluxeim worried about him ??
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19:43.09arrrghhhhe needs his stipend.
19:43.13arrrghhhwhy haven't you paid him FsTluxe !
19:44.46FsTluxe<arrrghhh>********
19:44.46FsTluxe<arrrghhh> ****************
19:44.53FsTluxei cant what youre saying..
19:45.06FsTluxeI think my irc blocks all the bullshit people..
19:45.29JesusFreak316I accidentally what you're saying.
19:45.33arrrghhhlmao
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19:47.25arrrghhhFsTluxe: yea i don't speak skank either.  sorry.
19:47.49FsTluxe<arrrghhh> FsTluxe: *************************
19:48.07FsTluxeBro you better get a Live ..
19:48.22FsTluxeI have no respect for people like you:)..
19:48.41JohnSheridanis it English?
19:48.43arrrghhhoh noes, i don't get respect from some clown on the internet.
19:48.44gauner1986wtf
19:48.55arrrghhhi'm going to die without your respect FsTluxe.
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19:57.14RajkoBOY IT SURE SOUNDS LIKE SPAM AROUND LIKE
19:57.21RajkoHERE
19:57.48uub11spam sounds squishy in the can
19:58.05arrrghhhah well.  i didn't mean to piss you off FsTluxe.  i apologize if i offended you.
19:58.10Rajkowe have a spam here
19:58.12Rajkoits preety good
19:58.24gauner1986funny spam is better than nothing at all
19:58.28arrrghhhhawaii seems to love it
19:58.36gauner1986and magldr 1.09 is better than funny spam
19:58.41gauner1986:P
19:59.26RajkoFsTluxe, he better get a live subscription ?
19:59.26Rajkowat
20:01.29uub11bad spam english?
20:05.40Rajko<FsTluxe> Bro you better get a Live ..
20:06.36JesusFreak316You'd think so. Why would he capitalize life?
20:06.56arrrghhhmine's just that important to him.
20:09.17FsTluxearrrghhh,  okey I'm sorry too!
20:09.41JesusFreak316Lol at these guys saying Microsoft paid Cotulla to stop porting WP7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830685&page=6
20:09.59arrrghhhnice
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20:10.35arrrghhhpeople already sick of running android.  nothing will make them happy.
20:10.46JesusFreak316Yeah, seriously.
20:10.59uub11it's human nature
20:12.58arrrghhhi guess.  we get used to something and we want something new.  stupid humans.
20:13.34JesusFreak316New android version evey ~6 months isn't good enough?
20:13.53F22if they're sick of android hopefully they'll go back to winmo and stop complaining...somehow i think not... :P
20:13.56arrrghhhnothing new in 2.3 :P
20:14.07arrrghhhF22: HA.  wishful thinking at it's best.
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20:14.55gauner1986hey dan
20:14.59dan1j3l1hi
20:15.08gauner1986are you on the 720p stuff?
20:15.09F222.3 has been delayed a few weeks it now sounds like...
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20:15.42dan1j3l1i'm between stuff, 720p is one of them :)
20:15.54F22i wonder if that has anything to do with the Nexus S's delay too...
20:16.11dan1j3l1gauner1986: any luck with leds ?
20:16.24F22seems reasonable if it's a software issue.
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20:16.45gauner1986dan1j3l1: not really.. using the led me know app from market is a nice workaround btw.
20:18.19dan1j3l1gauner1986: hmm, yeah... i even created fake leds (blue, wifi, jogball), and chaged led driver to leds-microp in kernel... but no luck
20:18.45gauner1986stupid android
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20:19.31dan1j3l1gauner1986:  i believe it's some kind of stupid initialization of led devices/driver
20:20.34gauner1986i don't see it's reading the led status anywhere..
20:20.36gauner1986but who knows..
20:21.33dan1j3l1gauner1986:  it's probably something stupid and easy, like always... :p
20:22.51DomZtoo easy for you :)
20:23.12dan1j3l1:p
20:30.25gauner1986yeah
20:30.26gauner1986stupid
20:30.28gauner1986and easy
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20:34.35LeTamahey gauner1986, I'm here now
20:34.50gauner1986ah hi..
20:34.55gauner1986now that dan is also here
20:35.04gauner1986why not grant letama access to the hd2 libs repo?
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20:35.17LeTamagauner1986: I do now :)
20:35.55LeTamaI didn't push last changes yet, quite small compared to previous
20:37.33gauner1986hm
20:37.39gauner1986have you found out about the oom thing yet?
20:39.30LeTamano, not yet. I don't have it and one of the testers seems to have it cured with my test kernel that is basically git head
20:39.46gauner1986aha...
20:39.47gauner1986^^
20:39.57dan1j3l1hi LeTama
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21:05.08tylerwatt12anyone on?
21:05.18arrrghhhwhat do you require Mr. Watt.
21:05.34tylerwatt12hi umm
21:05.40tylerwatt12im a beginner at this
21:05.50arrrghhhwhat phone
21:05.52gauner1986at what
21:06.01tylerwatt12not a phone
21:06.04arrrghhh...?
21:06.05tylerwatt12pda
21:06.08arrrghhhoy ve.
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21:06.21tylerwatt12made by htc its an ipaq
21:06.34arrrghhhoh.  not supported AFAIK
21:06.49tylerwatt12afaik?
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21:07.05arrrghhhas far as i know?
21:07.10tylerwatt12ah
21:07.26arrrghhhi thought the ipaq was an HP thing.
21:07.34tylerwatt12it is
21:07.44tylerwatt12but made by htc
21:07.56tylerwatt12so thats why it hangs on jumping to kernel?
21:08.01AstainHellbringdell axim x51* was htc too
21:08.08arrrghhhoh yea i forget.
21:08.14arrrghhhtylerwatt12: what processor?
21:08.35tylerwatt12I got android for htc apache because most the hardware is identical
21:08.46tylerwatt12but it still hangs
21:08.49arrrghhhdidn't even know the apache worked
21:08.57tylerwatt12did
21:08.59arrrghhhdude that's OLD hardware...
21:09.15tylerwatt12not too bad
21:09.23tylerwatt12still functional
21:09.23arrrghhhmy rhodium is old hardware at this point.
21:09.30JohnSheridanold for android anyway
21:09.46arrrghhhwell my palm is still functional, but i'm not trying to cram a modern os on it...
21:09.46JohnSheridanandroid need 256ram + 3D support
21:09.53JohnSheridanat least
21:09.54tylerwatt12would you see it working in the future?
21:10.02tylerwatt12hmm
21:10.09arrrghhhdoubtful.
21:10.20JohnSheridanpxa270 not enough so
21:10.20arrrghhhold hardware and a new os?  not likely.
21:10.26tylerwatt12mines 128 mb ram
21:10.39arrrghhhyea, not even close.
21:10.41tylerwatt12pxa 270 520mhz
21:10.49JohnSheridanslow
21:10.52JohnSheridanand no 3D
21:11.06arrrghhhyea
21:11.10JohnSheridananyway, developers develop apps for modern devices
21:11.14tylerwatt12im running wm6.5 on here
21:11.20arrrghhhi have 288mb of ram and msm7200a and it's slow.
21:11.29JohnSheridanwm65 don't need a lot of resources
21:12.00JohnSheridanarrghhh tp2?
21:12.01tylerwatt12anyways. anyone know when skyfire will work again?
21:12.30arrrghhhJohnSheridan: you know it.
21:13.43tylerwatt12how much is a handheld that runs android. im not looking for a phone necessarily
21:14.33jonprytp2 can be had for 150
21:14.59tylerwatt12w/o contact?
21:15.04arrrghhhif you don't care about the phone functionality...
21:15.11arrrghhhhd2 is the most complete port
21:15.25arrrghhhwouldn't you rather a native android device tho?
21:15.35jonprytylerwatt12, yeah check ebay
21:15.37arrrghhhhe's talkin used.
21:15.41arrrghhhindeed
21:15.41tylerwatt12ya anything with android would suffice
21:16.00arrrghhhthere's a ton of android hardware.  just depends on your budget and what you want.
21:16.11arrrghhhyou could get a g1 or a hero for probably $100 or less.
21:16.35jonprywvga is worth $50
21:16.39tylerwatt12I almost got a g1 last year
21:16.49arrrghhhlol indeed.
21:17.17arrrghhhthe tp2 port leaves some things to be desired tho.  without a provider perhaps it's a more pleasant experience :P
21:17.20tylerwatt12anyone know john basniak? I think he frequents these rooms
21:17.35arrrghhh...should we?
21:17.47JesusFreak316I got a hd2 for $150 off craigslist.
21:18.06arrrghhhoh JesusFreak316 and his stolen hd2's.
21:18.19JesusFreak316NOOO! MEANIE!!!
21:18.23arrrghhhlmao
21:19.04tylerwatt12this ipaq hx2495 was 50 off craigslist no scratches
21:19.23tylerwatt12brb
21:19.23JesusFreak316Well, that's no hd2. ;)
21:19.28arrrghhhbwhahaha
21:19.32arrrghhhso kernel development...
21:19.35arrrghhhlol
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21:19.49JesusFreak316Oh yeah, we're in the sacred channel.
21:20.05arrrghhhjonpry and bzo were having a good pow-wow there.
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21:20.29bzoback to talking about naked scanners
21:20.35arrrghhhhahaha
21:21.10tylerwatt12back
21:21.32jonpryi wonder if transvestites have trouble with those
21:21.41AstainHellbringhow goes it jonpry
21:21.54jonpryit goes pretty well
21:22.20tylerwatt12someone quick guess my age
21:22.38arrrghhh12?
21:22.42tylerwatt12no lol
21:22.53JesusFreak3166?
21:22.56bzo98
21:22.59tylerwatt12YES
21:23.11tylerwatt12im 16
21:23.22arrrghhhtylerwatt12: that's nice.  this channel is for kernel development, so no chit-chat.
21:23.27JesusFreak316e^pi(i) - 1?
21:23.28tylerwatt12srry
21:23.30arrrghhhgo to #htc-linux-chat if you want to erm... chat.
21:23.31JesusFreak316Darn it.
21:24.11jonpryhere i thought it was e^(i*pi)
21:24.35JesusFreak316That's what I said just with crappy notation.
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21:24.55arrrghhhorder of operations man!
21:25.16JesusFreak316meh, not when typing, too many parentheses.
21:25.21arrrghhhlol
21:25.28Rajkohar har i got top secret NDA signatured TI SDK
21:25.45JesusFreak316Der, how?
21:25.45jonpryoo, gimme
21:25.59jonpryi'm working on omap3
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21:28.03Alex[sp3dev]fffuuu java suxxorz
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22:58.26F22hi Pohket, how goes?
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23:01.04PohketIt goes - How're things on your end?
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23:02.41F22same, i've been playing in userland the last few days, haven't seen in Wistilt since Sunday.
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23:04.31F22have you looked at the sound volume bug at all? i recall your saying that you've become rather familiar with the sound code.
23:05.44curiousGeorge~seen vegaman
23:05.49aptvegaman <~vegaman@ip202-37-117-146.adsl.kci.net.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 10h 54m 40s ago, saying: 'haha'.
23:06.18curiousGeorgehaha indeed
23:07.05curiousGeorgeqdsp6 progress? i imagine it's not working (yet), but have you gotten it to boot with the new dsp? (and other "parts" of the cm kernel)?
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23:17.48curiousGeorgei'm curious as to when everybody gets on XD it seems whenever I come on everyone is gone. no devs in the US?
23:21.32curiousGeorgehastarin, i'm liking the looks of your new kernel!
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23:24.53ocmmost of the goodies go down in russia
23:24.53ocmlol
23:25.18curiousGeorgeaha
23:25.35curiousGeorgerussia is quite the place. lots of smart folks and engineers thereabouts, interestingly enough
23:25.46ocmyeah
23:26.28curiousGeorgeanyway, I assume the so-called "sysfs undervolting interface" merely reads the values from /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/vdd_levels
23:26.49curiousGeorgeso we can just pop it in a su text editor and screw around with it, save it, and restart?
23:27.29curiousGeorgewould we even *need* to restart? or must the file be addressed only via cat/echo?
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23:28.58curiousGeorge(and it appears hastarin's in Australia?)
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23:31.57curiousGeorgefirst of all, does anywhere here know about the sysfs undervolt patch?
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