IRC log for #htc-linux on 20101106

00:00.00cr2_need to understand the gpio68 logic first
00:00.23Echo31cr2: what is your performed operation ?
00:00.55cr2_click through directories on microdrive in the filemanager
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00:02.14Echo31cr2: can you copy a big file from to microdrive ?
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00:04.28cr2_QtGui4.dll
00:04.32cr2_6.22MB
00:04.34cr2_ok ?
00:05.10Echo31cr2: yes, look the GPIO68 and GPIO12
00:06.07cr2_059.615    GPIOS    GPLR2: GPIO68(68)=0
00:06.48cr2_overspammmed the buffer
00:07.25Echo31cr2: Too bigger
00:07.48cr2_need to ibit >8 first
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00:11.53cr2_003.899    GPIOS    GPLR2: GPIO68(68)=1
00:11.55cr2_035.852    GPIOS    GPLR2: GPIO68(68)=0
00:11.56cr2_a bit longer
00:13.03cr2_002.287    GPIOS    GPLR2: GPIO68(68)=1
00:13.04cr2_044.320    GPIOS    GPLR2: GPIO68(68)=0
00:14.33cr2_it's microdrive2microdrive copy
00:16.51Echo31cr2: pending is GPIO68=0 Work is GPIO68=1 ?
00:17.14cr2_no it's more difficult
00:17.25cr2_when i call 'watch gpios'
00:17.30cr2_in idle state,
00:17.33cr2_gpio68=1
00:18.04cr2_so it's probably some FE/RE signal to epson
00:18.11cr2_from the cpu
00:22.59cr2_<PROTECTED>
00:23.03cr2_it's GPDR2
00:23.48cr2_gpio68=0 in idle
00:24.51cr2_and =1 on some read actions
00:25.18cr2_well, it's easier to disassemble and look at ata_writeback
00:27.16RajkoMarkinus, god damn it, the leo change in msm_nand is still there'
00:27.30Rajkoi copy pasted a code block, and it just wasted 2 hours of my tie because of taht
00:27.44arrrghhhbetter get your money back.
00:27.58MarkinusRajko: argh . .
00:28.29Echo31cr2: GPIO68 set to be 0  by epson/cpu  ( idle state) can it be considered as a irq ?
00:30.36cr2_Echo31: it's an output gpio ?
00:30.56cr2_68   O 0 0
00:31.04cr2_so it's set by pxa270
00:32.59Echo31cr2:  I don't understand this ide controller driver without irq
00:34.03cr2_somehow they managed to do it in wince ;)
00:34.30RajkoMarkinus, android style nand rollan
00:35.56Echo31cr2: it later, I will go to sleep
00:38.53Echo31cr2: see you soon
00:39.45RajkoMarkinus, and yeah, the ECC_CFG_BUF thing is important
00:39.49Rajkoit changes the ecc style
00:39.57Rajko0x1ff is wince style
00:40.02Rajko203 is android
00:40.26MarkinusRajko: ahh, ok
00:40.43Rajkoso you HAVE to have wrong_buf thingy
00:40.45Rajkoenabled
00:40.54Markinusbut here it works only disabled
00:41.04Markinusor I have to enable it and change to 0x203
00:42.08Rajkono, bad markinus
00:42.14Rajkoif its disabled, the value stays at SPL value
00:42.16Rajkowhich is 0x1ff
00:42.21Markinusright
00:43.00Rajkoits gonna have to be enabled if you want android style nand
00:44.26Markinusif I enable it it's still 0x1ff because chip->ecc_buf_cfg = 0x1FF in our driver.
00:44.36Rajkoyeah well that's gonna change
00:44.52Markinusthis was what I ment
00:45.40Rajkoso it should work both ways for you now
00:45.47Rajkowhen its at 0x1ff
00:47.35Rajkosince its gonna be changing depeding on where its reading/writing in new driver
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00:50.19MarkinusRajko: they do something else there too, because the 0x1ff in wrong config and enabling of it not work on my device
00:50.41Markinusonly disabled and 0x1ff
00:51.53Rajkothe value isnt used if the define is 0
00:53.39Markinusahh, right :) they read it and don't use it then
00:53.50Rajkothey read the original
00:53.52Rajkointo n
00:53.55Markinusyes
00:53.55Rajkointo saved_ecc_bu
00:53.56Rajkof
00:53.58Rajkothen if wrong is defined
00:54.06Rajkothey switch it every op, to the right one
00:54.18Markinusok
00:54.19Rajkoand that stuff is enabled on all devices
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01:01.59Rajkoi dont know why itdoesnt work with it enabled on your device
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01:02.01Rajkowhat hspl do you have
01:02.28MarkinusRajko: latest
01:02.37RajkoHSPL3_PKG ?
01:02.39Markinus1.66 or so?
01:02.49Markinuswait
01:02.51Rajkoyou need to have HSPL3_PKG.ZIP hspl
01:02.51Markinuswill boot
01:03.02Rajkocotulla even said that to me
01:03.41MarkinusI have 2.08
01:04.06Markinusdid you test with the new one?
01:04.20Rajkowhat new one ?
01:04.56MarkinusHSPL3
01:05.26Rajkoi have HSPL3_PKG.zip
01:05.31Rajkothat's 2.08
01:05.40Rajkoyou need that one
01:05.44Rajkoyou cant use th new tmobile one
01:05.49Rajkonever teste
01:06.00Rajkoand dont really want to, spl updates are bad news
01:07.01Markinusif  HSPL3_PKG.zip is 2.08 then I'Ve the correct one
01:07.25Rajkothen weird that it doesnt work
01:07.25Rajkobecause
01:07.29Rajkosaved_ecc = 0x1ff also
01:07.34Rajkowince uses th same thng SPL does
01:07.45Markinuswithout swiching?
01:07.53Rajkoand if saved_ecc == new_ecc then it doesnt send the switch command
01:08.01Markinusok
01:08.04Markinushmmm
01:08.04Rajkoso the behaviour with or without that define should be identical
01:08.07Rajkosave for a few more if checks
01:09.42MarkinusRajko: you'Re rioght, should be the same . .. strange
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01:18.27Markinusbed time, tight
01:18.30Markinusnight
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02:01.12Rajkowoooo
02:01.52Rajkoandroid ecc
02:01.57Rajkobang and the corruption is GOONE
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02:09.14Rajkotell cotulla to contact me immediately when he comes on
02:10.45Rajkooh wait god damn it
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02:19.05TheTruthRajko: do you have sucess making uboot work?
02:19.17Rajkowouldnt need cotulla if i did
02:20.04TheTruthok.. i asked because i was following the logs..
02:20.36TheTruthI hope you could do that.. uboot will be nice =P
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02:22.31Unholyhey were do i locate the zimage once iv compiled it on the htc leo kernel, it dosent seem to be in the same place as the htc_msm_linux one, also were can i find the rootfs git
02:22.50TheTruthRajko: markino and you were working in HSPL modifications to load uboot, or i'm wrong?
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02:23.05Rajkonever modify hspl
02:26.16TheTruthright..
02:26.29Rajkothere's absolutely no reason to
02:27.28TheTruthright.. but if you modify the hspl to act like in an android device, it would be better, right?
02:28.55TheTruthRajko: is there any possibility of doing that?
02:29.03Rajkono
02:29.09Rajkotheres absolutely no reason to modify it
02:29.09Rajkoever
02:29.36TheTruthright right right.. thanks for your explanation dude!
02:30.49TheTruthI hope you and the crew could make uboot to work.. or magldr.. whatever..
02:32.00TheTruthhave a nice weekend.. bye!
02:40.53Unholyok nvm the zimage i found it, so can someone tell were to find the htc leo rootfs git?
02:41.30Rajkono such thing
02:43.08Unholyso they use the one form the xdandroid project/
02:43.11Unholyfrom*
02:45.29Unholy?
02:46.51Rajkowho
02:47.44Unholyeh? who what?
02:48.17Rajkowho is "they"
02:48.41Unholywhoever
02:48.48Unholyanyone that compiles there own rootfs
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02:49.53Rajkoi dont even use one
02:50.03Unholyok nvm
02:53.30Unholyok what about the modules?
02:53.47Rajkothe modules ?
02:53.57Unholyyes
02:54.03Rajko"the modules" ?
02:54.34Unholymodules-20100913_001101-htcleo.tgz  this has to come from somewere
02:54.42Rajkoyeah
02:54.44Rajkoyou compile them
02:54.45Rajkowith the kernel
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02:59.44Curious_Hey Rajko, are you positive on "nand corruption is gooone"?
02:59.54Rajkono
03:00.04Rajkostill fucke
03:00.05Rajkoi give up
03:01.56Curious_I was about to celebrate :)
03:01.59Curious_ok
03:02.05Rajkoethereal forces
03:02.09Rajkoare making it happen
03:04.20Rajkoits 4am
03:04.23Rajkonothing seems to fix it
03:04.26Rajkoim done
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03:08.30Rajkoarrrghhh, kill me now
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03:12.08arrrghhhstabs Rajko with a tcp packet.
03:12.17arrrghhhgotta make sure it gets there.
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08:06.05Rajkoi totally got pissed off at android and reinstalled winmo after that nand shit
08:06.29Rajkomostly because i needed a workng alarm to wake me up in 3 hours as i was up late trying to fix it to no avail
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10:29.14tfoutototal storage: 16 mb
10:29.17tfouto?
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15:08.21mdeejayhi :)
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15:19.43jonprytoastcfh, did you ever get .35 framebuffer to work?
15:19.59toastcfhyeah
15:20.17toastcfhwell wait no
15:20.42toastcfhi did however get .35 woring
15:21.03jonprybut not the fb?
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15:22.35toastcfhi never tried fb console
15:23.11jonpryi see
15:23.30jonpryso no advice on how to fix it then :(
15:25.04toastcfhcan u get ramconsole?
15:25.11jonpryyeah
15:25.25toastcfhwhy not just use that
15:26.08toastcfhor ur wanting to check fb
15:27.39jonpryi just assumed that fb doesn't work if fb console doesn't work
15:27.49toastcfhahhh
15:27.58jonpryand i'm still having trouble with initrd
15:28.08toastcfhwhats ramconsole print?
15:28.29jonpryregarding initrd?
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15:33.03toastcfhjonpry, regarding what may be wrong
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15:35.57jonprytoastcfh, initrd doesn't seem to even try. no /dev/ram0
15:38.01toastcfhdid u try and kang over stuff from ur old initrd
15:39.15jonpryi am just using the old initrd, but the kernel does not see anything
15:39.25jonpryi thing the atag is not parsed
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15:50.58Alex[sp3dev]hi jonpry
15:51.22Alex[sp3dev]have you ever tried running kernel off nand?
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15:53.31jonpryAlex[sp3dev]: no  not at all
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16:02.14jonpryi dunno why people use that nand garbage :p
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16:04.01arrrghhhunwavering hatred of winmo
16:05.43jonprywhat if you really want to take a picture?
16:09.43arrrghhheh
16:09.52arrrghhhi don't really care about the camera
16:10.02arrrghhhother than some of the cool android apps that use it :P
16:10.11arrrghhhbut i'm not nand 100%
16:10.20arrrghhhi just test it... i can't use android 100%, radio's too unstable.
16:10.24arrrghhhamong other things.
16:11.40jonprylike faceback?
16:12.05arrrghhhhahahaha
16:12.25arrrghhhidentify someone's face with the back of their head, yes.
16:12.32arrrghhhthat does sound very useful...
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16:15.14Alex[sp3dev]now my panel is working when booting from nand (i think, because now i fore the pmdh ns to the winmo value, but maybe because of 35 fb driver), but the device just hangs several seconds after launching init. strange
16:15.24Alex[sp3dev]s/fore/force/
16:19.04emweAlex[sp3dev]: hi. the other day you said there are some modified wait values in msm_fb.c. i just reverted to "official" htc values and i think that fixes the recently present panel wake issues on topaz.
16:19.23emweAlex[sp3dev]: i'd be thinking about commiting them.
16:20.08Alex[sp3dev]emwe: yep, noticed that too. changed back to HZ / 10 (or 100, don't remember. the one that was in vanilla) and the screen wakes up immediately
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16:20.49emweAlex[sp3dev]: 10 yes, but that does only help partially i think. the other one is -                                     ktime_set(0, NSEC_PER_SEC/20),
16:20.49emwe+                                     ktime_set(0, NSEC_PER_SEC/60),
16:20.53Julian35961meed help with XDNADroid
16:21.53emweAlex[sp3dev]: can you try the second one on kovsky?
16:22.07emweAlex[sp3dev]: (additional to the HZ/10 one...)
16:22.14Julian35961is anyone going to help?
16:22.17Alex[sp3dev]emwe: not really. i am using the vanilla codeaurora 35 framebuffer
16:22.40emweAlex[sp3dev]: ah, which likely has a bazillion changes to msm_fb as well? ;)
16:22.40Alex[sp3dev]but if you have a prebuilt zImage, i could try later. really later. i am building my wm6.5.5 rom now ;)
16:22.56Julian35961hello need help?
16:23.14Alex[sp3dev]Julian35691: maybe you could state what your problem is?
16:23.19arrrghhhJulian35961, wrong room
16:23.23arrrghhh#xdandroid
16:23.26Julian35961XDANDROID
16:23.29arrrghhhyea
16:23.32arrrghhhlook at the room you're in
16:23.35emweAlex[sp3dev]: then let's just have public testing ;) i finally can go about finding out what panel init codes set up backlight over mddi_client writes so that i can comment that and have that doen vie micro_panel_[suspend,resume]
16:23.35arrrghhhgo to #xdandroid
16:24.18Julian35961How do i know which room im in?
16:24.25Alex[sp3dev]http://www.mediafire.com/?62nnd1q261he66p just made a video of my x1 nand boot ;)
16:24.25arrrghhhuh... what?
16:24.38arrrghhhJulian35961, how did you join this room!??
16:24.46arrrghhh<PROTECTED>
16:24.55Julian35961i push you?
16:24.58arrrghhh...
16:25.04arrrghhhwhat's with the trolls lately.
16:25.45Julian35961hmmm
16:26.40emweJulian35961: then please /join #xdandroid
16:26.59Julian35961its said im am banned
16:27.04Julian35961how?
16:27.35emweno idea
16:27.53Julian35961wow shady
16:27.59arrrghhhoh wait
16:28.04arrrghhhdid you come in as cvvd
16:28.12Julian35961nope
16:28.20arrrghhhhrm.  how did you get here?
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16:28.29Julian35961i sign up
16:28.33arrrghhhyou're banned for a reason.  probably for being a troll.
16:28.45arrrghhhlet me see if your IP is the same 1 sec
16:28.55Julian35961How im the troll i just register here.
16:29.13arrrghhhyea
16:29.15Julian35961wait is another person who use the ip
16:29.15arrrghhhyou are cvvd
16:29.32arrrghhhIPs match.
16:30.01Julian35961he must have had got banned  for doing stupid crap.
16:30.16Julian35961Now i cant get help now ?
16:30.16arrrghhhlol, likely story.  why should we believe you are not him...?
16:30.38arrrghhhi'd say no.  i'd also like to see your IP banned from this channel.
16:30.49arrrghhhi heard he got banned from the xda-devs forums too.
16:30.51Julian35961I dont know i just need help with the memory problem with installing apps.
16:31.07arrrghhhso you are him.
16:31.09Julian35961which one
16:31.19arrrghhhwhich one?  there's only one.
16:31.24Alex[sp3dev]use resize2fs and don't troll
16:31.31Julian35961ITd muiltiple
16:32.08Julian35961I dont know crap gosh this horrible service.
16:32.15arrrghhhget your money back.
16:32.23arrrghhhi'd DEMAND it.
16:32.23Julian35961ok lol
16:32.42Julian35961come on im begging you.
16:32.49arrrghhhnineX_, you've got ops... please?
16:32.57Julian35961Please
16:33.20Alex[sp3dev]Julian35961: use "resize2fs data.img 512M". for other questions, use google.
16:33.32arrrghhhgooooooooooogle lol
16:33.39Julian35961<PROTECTED>
16:33.46arrrghhhhe just told you how.
16:33.47Alex[sp3dev]i think he got banned on google as well
16:33.50arrrghhhLOL
16:33.56arrrghhhgoogle didn't like his searches
16:34.06Julian35961ok stop ganging up on me damn.
16:34.23Alex[sp3dev]ok, but you stop trolling then
16:34.38Julian35961are those files at the xda developer?
16:34.59arrrghhhgoooooooogle
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16:35.13arrrghhhmaybe google did ban him.  did bing ban you too?  although bing kinda sucks.
16:35.18arrrghhhtheir maps are cool.
16:35.19arrrghhhlol
16:35.47Julian35961I cant believe you cant get them from XDA Developer.
16:36.11Alex[sp3dev]get them from your repository. oh, you're using windows? poor you
16:36.45Julian35961it doesnt even show up on google.
16:36.52Alex[sp3dev]http://ring.nict.go.jp/pub/pc/gnu-win32/release/e2fsprogs/
16:37.00arrrghhhlol
16:37.23Julian35961What are these files?
16:37.37arrrghhhblargh.
16:37.41Alex[sp3dev]you're either a troll or a fool
16:37.44arrrghhhoh i wish i had a banhammer.
16:38.06arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], troll.  why do you think he got banned from #xdandroid?  he was in here too, but no body has banned him from here yet...
16:38.11Julian35961hoow the hell am i trolling?
16:38.21Alex[sp3dev]you're acting a fool
16:38.58Julian35961Man you people mean ass hell im just trying to get some help.
16:39.04arrrghhhyea, just like you couterpart cvvd was.
16:39.33Julian35961im not him im not the only one who goes on this site aat my house for help.
16:39.46arrrghhh...
16:39.55arrrghhhso there's several trolls at your house/IP?
16:39.56jonprydoes that mean your disorder is genetic?
16:40.01arrrghhhlmao
16:40.01Julian35961one
16:40.49Julian35961it was people at the house in they wanted to do some stupud crap on my computer  now this happens.
16:41.06arrrghhhbut you're acting almost exactly like they did.
16:41.35Julian35961How?
16:41.46arrrghhh<Alex[sp3dev]> you're acting a fool
16:42.06arrrghhhanyhoo, have fun guys.  hope you get banned Julian35961.  i'm gonna go cook some food.
16:42.28Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: to feed the troll?
16:42.48arrrghhhnah, my belly.  i'm hungry!
16:42.55arrrghhhhungry
16:43.01Julian35961bann me then you people are all self center and i will be contacting the owner of this.
16:43.40arrrghhhlol
16:43.54arrrghhhgonna hunt down and troll the 'owner'?
16:44.09arrrghhhyea you best better get your money back.
16:44.19Julian35961I just want help me hate trolling but why you all keep doing that.
16:45.25arrrghhhdon't feed the troll guys!  especially after midnight.
16:45.51Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: it's 8 p.m. here, almost supper time ;)
16:46.09Julian35961wat
16:46.56Julian35961nvm
16:47.30Julian35961I will ask babijoe.
16:47.50Alex[sp3dev]s/ask/troll/g
16:49.30Julian35961hmm
16:50.02Julian35961how can you all accept my appolgy?
16:51.07Julian35961bye
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18:22.55[Delenn]hello
18:23.31Alex[sp3dev]have you come here to give us the open-sourced version of magldr for msm7200A?
18:23.51[Delenn]sorry, no...
18:24.05[Delenn]anyway, u have "open source" uboot :)
18:24.43Alex[sp3dev]yes, probably that is a good idea. will need a bit of work to port from qsd to msm.
18:25.13[Delenn]ever I plan to port uboot later to leo
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18:40.28MN-hd2hello all
18:40.50[Delenn]hello MN
18:41.09MN-hd2how is it
18:41.29[Delenn]holidays ends ^^
18:41.46Alex[sp3dev]wtf holidays.
18:42.07MN-hd2you been busy then
18:42.16Alex[sp3dev]ah yes, i've forgotten. we were forced to study on friday ;)
18:42.54[Delenn]Alex. haha ever I don't remember how this holiday called
18:43.01[Delenn]:P
18:43.21[Delenn]but anyway, ppl always like new holidays
18:43.50[Delenn]ever if they called "Holiday #3" "Holiday #4" and etc :)
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18:48.49MN-hd2anyway nand corruption is a problem still i think
18:52.06MN-hd2[Delenn] how did your rmnet tests go
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18:53.05tfouto[Delenn] rajko wanted to talk to you
18:53.20tfoutosome changes needed on maglrd
18:53.20Rajkoi am
18:53.26tfoutook
18:53.57[Delenn]rmnet... some progress on new system but now audio crashes %)
18:55.55tfoutohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFMNtuNMey0
18:57.43[Delenn]it's prototyped dev
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18:58.18MN-hd2yh
18:58.55tfoutothe strangest thing is the 16MB of total available space... is ROM of wp7 so big?
19:00.20Echo31cr2_: Hi
19:03.23cr2_Echo31: hi. i can't find my old athena directory with wince stuff. looking into old hdds now
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19:05.55Echo31cr2_: What information do you search ?
19:06.34cr2_gpio68 handler in wince driver
19:07.42Echo31cr2_: can you explain to me, how the wince driver works without irq ?
19:09.33Echo31cr2_: How do you find the GPIO12 function from wiki ?
19:11.25cr2_the nk.exe (wince kernel) has all irq handling routines.
19:11.51cr2_gpio12 is configured as irq in the pxa270 cpu
19:12.07cr2_the nk.exe text comment says "epson irq"
19:12.35cr2_i have never seen irq/gpio12 in action
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19:13.06cr2_how it works without irq... it's a puzzle
19:13.22cr2_that's why i want to understand the gpio68 context first
19:14.00MN-hd2tfouto it may the rom is large due to it being an earlier build
19:14.15tfoutomaybe
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19:17.30gauner1986hi
19:17.44arrrghhhcamro, gauner1986, welcome.
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19:31.30gauner1986rajko: how has the exam been?
19:31.36Rajkothis mornings ?
19:31.39Rajkoor last evenings
19:31.46gauner1986both
19:31.47Rajkoaced last evenings cuz it was algorithms and data strcturs
19:31.57Rajkothis mornngs was RTL processor design
19:32.07Rajkoand i was so sleepy and my neck hurt that i just stared at it for an hour
19:32.14gauner1986lol
19:32.24Rajkothen when i got to the tram stop...i figured out the solution
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19:38.01gauner1986my alda exam was easy
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19:45.40Ginbuntuhi
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20:06.55MN-hd2hi again
20:10.41MN-hd2how is it
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20:17.23MN-hd2nand corruption still there?
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20:18.30RajkoMN-hd2, yes
20:18.34Rajkoi blame the jews
20:18.43MN-hd2lol
20:18.57MN-hd2y the jews
20:19.37Rajkoi bet they did this
20:20.11GinbuntuRajko, you must be cartman's friend
20:20.38Rajkoeither that, or its christian magic
20:20.51MN-hd2lol funny guy
20:21.04[Delenn]ktulxy rulezz
20:21.18[Delenn]it will eat ur brain
20:21.19[Delenn]:D
20:22.00MN-hd2no not the brain :p
20:22.24[Delenn]brain without life is more easy :D
20:22.29[Delenn]err life without brain
20:22.44Rajkoyeah, fuck consciousness
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20:49.13Curious_[Delenn], do you have any news about hd2
20:50.37RajkoCurious_, EVERYTHING IS BROKEN
20:50.50Curious_do i look like a spammer
20:50.51Rajkonothing is true, everything is permitted
20:51.12Curious_kid playing ac2..
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20:54.15FsTluxeGuys,
20:56.36FsTluxeI'e tried the hetcLeo_defconfig _usb_host for the last linux kernel..(ubuntu) but when ubuntu booted screen freez and reboot  when compile kernel with normal defcondig without usbhost mode  no problems at all..     Maybe i need to do a kernel dump??
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21:17.21Echo31cr2_: Do you find a rational for gpio68 ?
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22:43.30[Delenn]haha rmnet working :)
22:44.01[Delenn]# ping -M do -s 1472 ya.ru
22:44.01[Delenn]ping -M do -s 1472 ya.ru
22:44.01[Delenn]PING ya.ru (93.158.134.3) 1472(1500) bytes of data.
22:44.01[Delenn]1480 bytes from www.yandex.ru (93.158.134.3): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=471 ms
22:44.01[Delenn]1480 bytes from www.yandex.ru (93.158.134.3): icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=481 ms
22:44.02[Delenn]^C
22:44.08manusfreedomon which device?
22:44.09manusfreedomleo?
22:44.12[Delenn]yes
22:44.20manusfreedomwhat did you?
22:44.28Rajkohe hacked the gibson
22:44.30[Delenn]# ping -M do -s 1473 ya.ru
22:44.31[Delenn]ping -M do -s 1473 ya.ru
22:44.31[Delenn]PING ya.ru (87.250.250.3) 1473(1501) bytes of data.
22:44.31[Delenn]From 10.234.254.46 icmp_seq=1 Frag needed and DF set (mtu = 1500)
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23:02.19htc_tilt2i have admired linux for its open source nature... i have an htc tilt 2 (att) /touch rpo 2/ .. reluctant to install ubunto on it because of the issue with running uncertified apps after rebooting in wm.. does android have this issue ?
23:03.22htc_tilt2also, i have the startup utility downloading ... from what i understand its a gui for editing the startup.txt
23:04.06htc_tilt2i do not have my own computer, my htc tilt 2 is my computer , and i dispise the limitations and inflexability of wm
23:04.48Alex[sp3dev]the issue is that haret doesn't stop all pending writing operations in winmo, and the contents of the nand chip can become corrupted. not like there is a way out. probably the best way is to close all background apps and services (or do a reboot) before launching haret. in case you don't have a computer, i'd advise you to stay with WM. android is experimental (and may even cause damage, you know).
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23:07.58htc_tilt2thank you... a deeper understanding of the 'bug' is helpfull.. i have sktools installed on my wm .. i think it has a process mannager that shows all processess... i understand linux by its nature of flexability requers intelegence and forsight from its users...
23:08.58htc_tilt2thank you alex
23:09.06htc_tilt2out
23:10.02Rajkohmm
23:10.16Rajkoinit: cannot execve('/system/bin/mediaserver'): Permission denied yay
23:11.26htc_tilt2with that said, i would rather run ubuntu :D ...
23:12.41htc_tilt2i really do not like android because of its ties with google :p
23:13.46Alex[sp3dev]well, ubuntu is nice. i have never used rhobuntu, though. but with the internet working, you really have a full pc in your pocket. only the fonts are very tiny
23:14.01htc_tilt2sweet :)
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23:18.35hicksaren't there any barebones WM roms for tp2 that can minimise that kind of thing?
23:18.46hicksif you were to boot into android
23:19.27Alex[sp3dev]if i didn't have a pc, i'd restrict from flashing. i would advise to download a copy of rom an put it to sd card so as it will be flashable, just in case
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