| 00:06.15 | *** join/#htc-linux Heh116 (~androirc@c-71-231-132-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:07.38 | Heh116 | hello |
| 00:12.01 | *** join/#htc-linux Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@cpe-76-170-247-232.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 00:34.21 | Netham45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.26 | Netham45 | android is failing to install on my TP2 |
| 00:43.03 | *** join/#htc-linux fakker (~noobhands@cpc2-hitc6-2-0-cust335.9-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 00:45.29 | *** join/#htc-linux arrrghhh (~arrrghhh@c-71-237-40-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 00:47.01 | arrrghhh | needhelp, i can help you w/tp2 issues in #xdandroid. this isn't the right room. |
| 00:47.52 | *** join/#htc-linux theredund (~thereduda@27-32-116-207.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:53.28 | *** join/#htc-linux Heh116 (~androirc@c-71-231-132-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:59.17 | *** join/#htc-linux slim_ (~slim_@41.239.33.137) |
| 01:01.10 | *** join/#htc-linux Mstrk242 (~Mstrk242@99-183-237-58.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:15.34 | *** join/#htc-linux Rajko (bitrot@wan.rajkonet.info) |
| 01:16.35 | *** join/#htc-linux kmd (~deanek@ip68-9-219-143.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 01:18.03 | *** join/#htc-linux myn (cereal@cpe-71-64-8-228.insight.res.rr.com) |
| 01:20.24 | *** join/#htc-linux gauner1986 (~Miranda@p5B38A94E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:20.50 | *** join/#htc-linux EdLin (~EdLin@securabit/listener/edlin) |
| 01:29.48 | WisTilt2 | hey stinebd you around tonight? |
| 01:42.41 | *** join/#htc-linux hastarin (~hastarin@220-253-153-24.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 01:50.40 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's shakin man? |
| 01:55.24 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh not much just messing with the speakerphone mic problem. going to turn on back green when speakerphone mode also. |
| 01:56.17 | WisTilt2 | looking at the sensor also to do the auto speakerphone trick like winmo does. should be pretty easy. |
| 02:00.04 | *** join/#htc-linux ElFinLazz (~elfinlazz@112.154.189.103) |
| 02:14.39 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 02:14.45 | arrrghhh | prox sensor in call would be cool too |
| 02:15.01 | arrrghhh | although call stability i'd prefer more than anything... blargh i wish you had a cdma phone :P |
| 02:15.42 | WisTilt2 | we'll hit that one also eventually. does the 400 and 500 both do the auto speakerphone mode when on its face in a call? |
| 02:17.12 | arrrghhh | i believe so |
| 02:17.18 | arrrghhh | i don't think i've tested it tho... |
| 02:17.43 | arrrghhh | there's definitely a prox sensor so when it's close to your face it goes completely blank, and then comes right back when you take it away from your face. |
| 02:19.14 | WisTilt2 | well, i see why mic isnt working in speakerphone mode. now i need to find where the heck to put the fix in so its in the right place. |
| 02:20.02 | arrrghhh | well at least you know why it's not working haha |
| 02:21.00 | WisTilt2 | yeah, there's no code to turn it on anywhere, only the front mic. |
| 02:31.33 | arrrghhh | ah well |
| 02:31.35 | arrrghhh | g2g |
| 02:31.43 | arrrghhh | have a good one sir |
| 02:31.59 | WisTilt2 | nite |
| 03:03.21 | *** join/#htc-linux dekar (~dekar@drms-4d0150e8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 03:18.30 | *** join/#htc-linux C_h_r_i_s (~ja@dslb-084-057-064-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:56.15 | *** join/#htc-linux dharvey (~dharvey@c-69-254-236-232.hsd1.ks.comcast.net) |
| 04:15.38 | *** join/#htc-linux raymonddull (~raymonddu@24-247-53-174.dhcp.monr.mi.charter.com) |
| 04:17.27 | *** join/#htc-linux phantomcircuit_ (~phantomci@adsl-99-37-226-48.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:18.06 | *** join/#htc-linux AndChat- (~raymonddu@216.220.222.131) |
| 04:26.26 | *** join/#htc-linux phantomcircuit (~phantomci@adsl-99-37-226-48.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:31.50 | *** join/#htc-linux arrrghhh (~arrrghhh@c-71-237-40-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 04:36.39 | *** join/#htc-linux myn (cereal@cpe-71-64-8-228.insight.res.rr.com) |
| 05:06.41 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: i have an image to test when you can that turns back green led on when speakerphone selected and off when disabled. still working on back mic. |
| 05:17.07 | *** join/#htc-linux markmark (dcfd5bde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.91.222) |
| 05:23.39 | arrrghhh | so does that mean speakerphone works? |
| 05:23.51 | arrrghhh | or the green led works when it's 'enabled'? :P |
| 05:25.37 | WisTilt2 | green led on when in speakerphone mode only. still working on fixing the speakerphone mic. |
| 05:25.44 | arrrghhh | cool. |
| 05:26.02 | arrrghhh | did they ever commit your adsp.h changes? |
| 05:26.06 | arrrghhh | i think that was the file... |
| 05:26.15 | WisTilt2 | back led that is. front one should go off when speakerphone on, then back to normal when you take it back out of speakerphone. |
| 05:26.27 | WisTilt2 | nope not yet |
| 05:26.43 | arrrghhh | that sucks. |
| 05:27.19 | arrrghhh | bootin now |
| 05:27.41 | WisTilt2 | after i get mic working im going to add back led to red along with mute when you hit mute button like it should work. |
| 05:27.45 | arrrghhh | so on the autobuild kernels i noticed the led doesn't get initialized right away like your kernels do... |
| 05:27.49 | *** join/#htc-linux wladston (~wladston@201.80.94.14) |
| 05:27.52 | arrrghhh | nice. |
| 05:28.07 | *** join/#htc-linux Kasjopaja23 (~Tina@p57BC1798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:28.12 | WisTilt2 | yeah phh took that startup led init out for some reason. |
| 05:28.25 | arrrghhh | hm |
| 05:29.14 | arrrghhh | crap i think i forgot to switch my startup back... |
| 05:29.54 | arrrghhh | gotta reboot & fix it so i can make a call. |
| 05:29.56 | wladston | arrrghhh WisTilt2 hey guys :) |
| 05:29.57 | WisTilt2 | when you make a test call, toggle speakerphone on and off a couple times to make sure that back led goes on and off with the mode. |
| 05:30.03 | wladston | you here even on sundays! :D |
| 05:30.09 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:30.12 | arrrghhh | still saturday here |
| 05:30.14 | WisTilt2 | its saturday here |
| 05:30.16 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 05:30.17 | *** join/#htc-linux taiu (~andrem@allikas.gospa.ee) |
| 05:30.18 | wladston | woops |
| 05:30.21 | wladston | saturday |
| 05:30.29 | wladston | here it's 3:30am |
| 05:30.35 | arrrghhh | well for me it'll be saturday for another 30 minutes. |
| 05:30.35 | wladston | so .. sunday |
| 05:30.39 | WisTilt2 | where are you? |
| 05:30.41 | wladston | brazil |
| 05:30.42 | arrrghhh | dude, you're in the future |
| 05:30.46 | wladston | WisTilt2: and you ? |
| 05:30.49 | wladston | LOL |
| 05:30.53 | WisTilt2 | damn. calif here |
| 05:30.58 | wladston | COOL |
| 05:31.15 | wladston | not nice to be in the future ... It means I get to sleep less eventually |
| 05:31.56 | wladston | WisTilt2: I was going to ask you ... where is that repo source again ? I thought it was easy to find |
| 05:32.04 | wladston | WisTilt2: I only find plain images |
| 05:32.09 | WisTilt2 | which one? |
| 05:32.13 | wladston | for the kernel ? |
| 05:32.27 | wladston | that runs on our beloved msms |
| 05:32.36 | WisTilt2 | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Source_Repositories |
| 05:32.54 | WisTilt2 | top link is kernel we are working with |
| 05:32.56 | wladston | WisTilt2: thanks!!! |
| 05:34.03 | arrrghhh | so WisTilt2 are kbd lights & caps/fn lights going to be pretty simple to knock out? |
| 05:34.21 | wladston | arrrghhh: wow, that's nice :) |
| 05:34.44 | WisTilt2 | they're done as far as all the code, just need to finish the defines and clean up all the code so it's committable. |
| 05:34.45 | arrrghhh | ? |
| 05:34.51 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 05:34.52 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 05:35.59 | WisTilt2 | kbd lights need to be tested on other rhods still. never tried that on other than the 300 and really hope its the same since its rather complicated. |
| 05:36.15 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 05:36.19 | arrrghhh | yea i don't think i've tested that yet |
| 05:36.23 | wladston | found a GREAT article, wish I could have found that 5 days ago |
| 05:36.23 | arrrghhh | with any of your kernels... |
| 05:36.26 | wladston | would have saved me hours |
| 05:36.28 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:36.29 | wladston | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/Porting-Android-to-a-new-device/ |
| 05:36.32 | arrrghhh | wladston, been there before. |
| 05:37.23 | arrrghhh | man that 810 is a nice looking phone. |
| 05:37.38 | arrrghhh | kbd reminds me of my htc apache |
| 05:37.56 | WisTilt2 | if kbd lights are diff on each rhod im going to have to have one of each device to code it. dont really want to go there time wise if i dont have to though. |
| 05:38.11 | arrrghhh | haven't used that phone in years... |
| 05:38.37 | wladston | arrrghhh: found the answer to yesterday's questions : |
| 05:38.41 | wladston | "Google also provides an Android emulator. The emulator is a virtualized ARM microprocessor that runs the same system code -- and almost exactly the same Linux kernel -- that runs on a device" |
| 05:39.03 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, well let me know. i can try to help in any way possible... i know a little bit & i have a build environment for git. |
| 05:39.10 | wladston | wonder if we could emulate the RHOD |
| 05:39.29 | arrrghhh | but we have the devices... |
| 05:39.45 | arrrghhh | i guess devs could benefit from having each iteration... |
| 05:40.06 | arrrghhh | pretty sure that would have to come from HTC, and that's not happening. |
| 05:40.51 | wladston | right... |
| 05:42.24 | WisTilt2 | i was thinking of making a real compact vm to run winmo in that could be setup to grab all the different microp,gpios,etc we need. could be done but would take awhile to create that. probably less time than doing all the haret dumps and dll analyzing everyone has been doing though. |
| 05:43.05 | arrrghhh | hm |
| 05:43.10 | arrrghhh | interesting.. |
| 05:43.15 | arrrghhh | not sure how you could do it tho. |
| 05:43.26 | arrrghhh | so in deep sleep i should be getting a blinking green led on the front? |
| 05:43.30 | arrrghhh | going to do a test call. |
| 05:43.32 | wladston | WisTilt2: true or false ? -- with the kernel working, a build on the default android repo should bring the device up |
| 05:43.44 | arrrghhh | solid green in wake, blinking green in sleep |
| 05:43.51 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: yep blinking green in sleep, solid in wake. |
| 05:43.55 | arrrghhh | k |
| 05:44.24 | WisTilt2 | wladston yep |
| 05:44.31 | wladston | wow |
| 05:45.00 | WisTilt2 | it will be the same as the autobuild everyone downloads, just you're building it yourself. |
| 05:45.16 | wladston | so android is like a normal operating system - it auto-addapts and goes up on any "machine" with the kernel working. |
| 05:45.41 | WisTilt2 | kernel build will only make the zImage. you'll have to pack the module file yourself though. |
| 05:45.53 | wladston | WisTilt2: so I can generate my image from the vanilla android repo, and it will be up ? |
| 05:45.56 | wladston | that is really incredible |
| 05:46.01 | WisTilt2 | yes |
| 05:46.15 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, all works just as you describe. |
| 05:46.26 | WisTilt2 | xdandroid system file and rootfs will run with your own kernel build |
| 05:46.51 | WisTilt2 | toggling speakerphone on/off turns on/off green back led then on the 400? |
| 05:46.54 | arrrghhh | green led on back when speakerphone is on, and led goes dim on the front when speakerphone is off |
| 05:46.58 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 05:47.01 | WisTilt2 | nice |
| 05:47.03 | arrrghhh | flipped it on and off several times |
| 05:47.07 | arrrghhh | in 2 calls |
| 05:47.15 | arrrghhh | both were outbound, i'll check inbound real quick. |
| 05:47.37 | tmzt | what switches the led on and off |
| 05:47.45 | WisTilt2 | great. when i get the speakerphone mic fixed ill commit that as a seperate patch then. |
| 05:47.46 | tmzt | oh |
| 05:47.57 | tmzt | there goes notifications :) |
| 05:48.08 | arrrghhh | schweet |
| 05:48.16 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, works on an incoming call too. flawlessly. |
| 05:48.21 | arrrghhh | stupid murphy & his laws. |
| 05:48.59 | tmzt | you can answer calls with sound? :) |
| 05:49.02 | arrrghhh | every single test call i've made has been perfect. every time my dad or gf calls, the phone freaks out in several different creative & flamboyant ways. all result in the call failing tho lol. |
| 05:49.04 | WisTilt2 | tmzt, we're just controlling the speakerphone led in this test. notify would be front led still. back led has 3 colors so we can do other things with it. |
| 05:49.41 | tmzt | too bad my tp2 is a nice big mifi right now |
| 05:49.48 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh only goes nuts on incoming? does it happen every time or just now and then? |
| 05:50.34 | arrrghhh | well it's not every time that's for sure. |
| 05:50.46 | arrrghhh | but like i said whenever it's "important" it seems to fail. |
| 05:51.01 | WisTilt2 | but outgoing never messes up? |
| 05:51.09 | arrrghhh | i've had it do all sorts of wacky things |
| 05:51.14 | tmzt | I have no issues with outgoing with speakeroff.ko |
| 05:51.15 | arrrghhh | uhmmm.... not that i can remember. |
| 05:51.19 | arrrghhh | but calls always make me nervous. |
| 05:51.26 | arrrghhh | so i don't make them in Android :P |
| 05:51.34 | arrrghhh | unless i'm testing. then it's fine haha |
| 05:51.42 | tmzt | I never get to ata fast enogh anyway |
| 05:51.45 | tmzt | so I call back |
| 05:52.38 | arrrghhh | i swear my dad calls me once at week at the most |
| 05:52.45 | arrrghhh | and every time he calls when i'm in android it fails |
| 05:52.52 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh you have time to test 1 more image? i want to test back led with speakerphone on with green flash red. also ill add kbd lights always on to see if the 400 is same as 300. |
| 05:52.57 | arrrghhh | once it decided to reboot & turn on the speakerphone at the same time. |
| 05:53.05 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i'm game. is it up? |
| 05:53.15 | WisTilt2 | give me a minute to code it... |
| 05:53.21 | tmzt | anyway I was talking about using back for notification |
| 05:53.34 | arrrghhh | cool. take your time. |
| 05:53.37 | tmzt | because I leave sound off most of the time and the phone upside down |
| 05:57.43 | WisTilt2 | ok image ready. this should give you green with flash red on back with speakerphone on. also kbd backlight locked on along with the caps/fn lights on. |
| 05:59.12 | wladston | another thing that was cathy to figure out is that xdandroid uses only one product - full_msm - instead of one for each product as adviced on google |
| 05:59.31 | WisTilt2 | tmzt that could be done. back led has green/red/orange so orange could be used for notify and wouldn't interfere with green for speakerphone on and red when muted. |
| 05:59.53 | arrrghhh | yea i swear i've never seen orange on winmo |
| 06:00.45 | WisTilt2 | there's a lot of things these devices have that isn't being used. |
| 06:01.11 | arrrghhh | stupid htc. |
| 06:01.15 | tmzt | awesome though, somebody'd writing a real bootloader |
| 06:01.19 | tmzt | replaces spl |
| 06:01.32 | wladston | WisTilt2: really ? for example ?! |
| 06:01.36 | arrrghhh | should've put better hardware inside to match the polished outside. and probably android natively :P |
| 06:01.45 | tmzt | tp2? |
| 06:01.47 | wladston | reads log |
| 06:01.47 | arrrghhh | ja |
| 06:01.54 | tmzt | g2 is pretty good, want arrows |
| 06:01.57 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 06:01.59 | tmzt | but otherwise |
| 06:02.03 | arrrghhh | 5-row kbd is nice. |
| 06:02.12 | arrrghhh | indeed, otherwise it seems like a good device. |
| 06:02.21 | tmzt | when it's unlocked |
| 06:02.25 | arrrghhh | underclocked proc is promising |
| 06:02.38 | wladston | cool |
| 06:03.25 | arrrghhh | amazing what those guys w/the droid got on overclocking that omap proc |
| 06:03.38 | tmzt | how so? |
| 06:03.43 | arrrghhh | they got almost 3ghz |
| 06:04.16 | arrrghhh | out of a 1.0 ghz proc |
| 06:04.26 | arrrghhh | i think they said 2.5ghz was "stable" lol |
| 06:04.34 | arrrghhh | didn't see it myself, just a vid on the youtooobs |
| 06:05.04 | WisTilt2 | need to carry around a car battery and liquid nitrogen to run and cool it though:) |
| 06:05.11 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 06:05.15 | arrrghhh | yea, i've seen those vids |
| 06:05.26 | arrrghhh | 6ghz with liquid nitrogen cooling hahah |
| 06:06.36 | *** join/#htc-linux taiu (~andrem@allikas.gospa.ee) |
| 06:06.51 | WisTilt2 | i'll be glad when this damn election is over. really sick of the thousands of political ads. |
| 06:07.01 | arrrghhh | seriously. |
| 06:07.37 | WisTilt2 | you still booting that thing up? |
| 06:07.38 | arrrghhh | ok so on call w/speakerphone i get alternating green/red led on back |
| 06:07.52 | arrrghhh | i don't get any kbd or caps/fn lights |
| 06:07.58 | arrrghhh | do i have to do anything special to get those to work on bootup? |
| 06:08.26 | WisTilt2 | not even getting caps/fn? no, nothing needed from winmo. |
| 06:08.40 | arrrghhh | no caps/fn lights either... |
| 06:08.57 | WisTilt2 | ah wait, they will only be on when speakerphone is active since i stuck the code inside that func to test. |
| 06:09.12 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:09.20 | arrrghhh | didn't test it like that... |
| 06:09.21 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 06:09.32 | WisTilt2 | easiest way to do it quickly |
| 06:09.40 | arrrghhh | k |
| 06:09.42 | arrrghhh | 1 sec |
| 06:10.04 | WisTilt2 | kbd backlight should be at full brightness also |
| 06:10.12 | WisTilt2 | there are 5 levels btw |
| 06:12.25 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 06:12.28 | arrrghhh | so in call |
| 06:12.32 | arrrghhh | with the speakerphone on |
| 06:12.57 | arrrghhh | the caps/fn were always on |
| 06:13.01 | arrrghhh | no matter what... |
| 06:13.04 | arrrghhh | and no kbd lights |
| 06:13.38 | WisTilt2 | caps/fn should have gone off when you turned off speakerphone |
| 06:14.51 | arrrghhh | oh i thought they would relate to the caps/fn buttons |
| 06:14.54 | arrrghhh | silly me :P |
| 06:15.12 | arrrghhh | yep |
| 06:15.29 | arrrghhh | that's how they're working. both caps/fn lights turn on with speaker, and off with speakerphone off. |
| 06:15.46 | WisTilt2 | and back green/red does the same? |
| 06:15.52 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 06:16.01 | arrrghhh | alternating green/red on back with speakerphone on |
| 06:16.12 | WisTilt2 | but no kbd backlight at all in any mode? |
| 06:16.25 | arrrghhh | and nothing on back with speakerphone off. green led on front with no speakerphone, no led in front with speakerphone on |
| 06:16.40 | WisTilt2 | yeah thats right |
| 06:17.14 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 06:17.24 | arrrghhh | what's weird is the phone doesn't switch to landscape in call |
| 06:18.05 | arrrghhh | seems the dialer has no landscape feature. |
| 06:18.13 | WisTilt2 | should only do that with kbd open or on its side |
| 06:18.27 | wladston | WisTilt2: there is a kernel driver for GPS, right ? |
| 06:18.30 | arrrghhh | yea, i think that's a system image problem. |
| 06:18.40 | arrrghhh | i'll file a bug for stine :P |
| 06:18.52 | arrrghhh | i'll make sure it's not present in reference. |
| 06:19.11 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, so yea, still no kbd lights. caps/fn do turn on/off with speakerphone on/off tho. |
| 06:19.39 | wladston | WisTilt2: how can I debug/test a kernel driver on android ? |
| 06:20.06 | WisTilt2 | wladston dont know for sure but i think gps is all handled in userland. im sure there are some hooks to the kernel but dont know. i havent touched any of that area yet. |
| 06:21.23 | wladston | WisTilt2: right. what about the camera then ? |
| 06:21.28 | wladston | I need something to teset |
| 06:21.31 | wladston | test |
| 06:21.49 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh what im going to have to do it make a test kernel where you turn on kbd lights in winmo then boot haret and at sleep it will go through all the combos to turn off the lights. you'll have to watch it and count some led blinks so we can find it for that phone. |
| 06:22.53 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sounds good, let me know... |
| 06:22.56 | WisTilt2 | wladston thats a bzo question, he's doing camera, i just did the adsp tables for it. i know there is no code for camera to fire it up in the public source yet though, he's working that area. |
| 06:23.12 | wladston | humm, right... |
| 06:23.15 | wladston | thanks :) |
| 06:23.32 | wladston | for tomorrow I'll try to find out where is the gps code |
| 06:23.34 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh ill set that up next week. looks like we'll have to do the same for all rhods |
| 06:23.44 | wladston | I've been trying to do that for 3 days now |
| 06:23.48 | wladston | lol |
| 06:23.54 | wladston | WisTilt2: I'm in for testing |
| 06:24.07 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sounds good. |
| 06:24.09 | WisTilt2 | wladston what device you have? |
| 06:24.13 | wladston | RHOD100 |
| 06:24.18 | WisTilt2 | damn |
| 06:24.23 | wladston | same you have too ? |
| 06:24.28 | WisTilt2 | rhod300 |
| 06:24.32 | arrrghhh | i've got a 400 |
| 06:24.35 | wladston | great |
| 06:24.39 | arrrghhh | there's only the 500 & 210 then |
| 06:24.42 | wladston | we can test it on 3 devices |
| 06:24.45 | arrrghhh | nate has the 500 |
| 06:24.55 | WisTilt2 | we've tested on all but the 100 i think |
| 06:25.05 | wladston | cool |
| 06:25.11 | arrrghhh | lol how convenient... |
| 06:25.12 | wladston | will you be here tomorrow too ? |
| 06:25.34 | WisTilt2 | probably late tomorrow afternoon |
| 06:25.35 | wladston | I'm falling asleep on the keyboard, this android thing is messing with my sleep cycles |
| 06:25.38 | wladston | lol |
| 06:25.40 | wladston | right |
| 06:25.55 | wladston | well, I'm goin then ... nite to you guys |
| 06:26.04 | WisTilt2 | nite |
| 06:26.08 | *** part/#htc-linux wladston (~wladston@201.80.94.14) |
| 06:26.10 | arrrghhh | g'nite |
| 06:26.12 | arrrghhh | ah well. |
| 06:27.00 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh ill work on the mic tomorrow when i get back home. like to get that knocked out since its not that difficult, just need to trace where to put it. |
| 06:27.19 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, ok. have you looked into the mic in apps at all? |
| 06:27.26 | arrrghhh | i've noticed that doesn't work quite right either. |
| 06:27.30 | WisTilt2 | if it was up to me i'd stick everything in the kernel and forget all the userland stuff lol. |
| 06:27.30 | *** join/#htc-linux [zozi]_ (~chatzilla@bl15-77-155.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 06:27.36 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 06:27.45 | arrrghhh | well they complement eachother. |
| 06:28.19 | WisTilt2 | i havent looked at any mic apps no |
| 06:28.24 | arrrghhh | k |
| 06:28.38 | arrrghhh | i just noticed the mic doesn't seem to get initialized |
| 06:28.42 | arrrghhh | just like the speakerphone |
| 06:28.47 | arrrghhh | perhaps the same issue |
| 06:29.03 | WisTilt2 | i really havent been into the userland side much except when i first got into this, then went off to the kernel where all the probs were. |
| 06:29.11 | arrrghhh | for navi, google search, etc. |
| 06:29.23 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 06:29.26 | arrrghhh | yea most of the problems do seem to be in the kernel. |
| 06:30.40 | WisTilt2 | there is a lot of code in the snd device control that makes no sense to me as far as why it is coded the way it is. lots of pieces put in by different people to do different things that probably mess up other modes. |
| 06:31.09 | arrrghhh | yea, a lot of it needs to be cleaned up... |
| 06:31.20 | WisTilt2 | so google search doesnt work then? |
| 06:32.14 | arrrghhh | too many chefs with no recipes :P |
| 06:32.28 | arrrghhh | well it does, but not voice search |
| 06:32.34 | arrrghhh | i think if you make a call first it does work. |
| 06:33.25 | WisTilt2 | yeah im looking at the snd code right now and after a call the mic is muted so voice search stuff cant work unless that userland app can turn it back on. |
| 06:33.45 | WisTilt2 | looks like its muted if any sound plays also. |
| 06:34.32 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 06:34.40 | arrrghhh | sounds like it might be a problem :P |
| 06:35.55 | WisTilt2 | ok im going to hit the sack. ill be on sometime after 4 my time tomorrow. |
| 06:36.13 | arrrghhh | cool dude |
| 06:36.19 | arrrghhh | have a good one |
| 06:37.20 | *** join/#htc-linux Netham46 (~Netham45@about/windows/regular/netham45) |
| 06:37.43 | Netham46 | anyone who's used Ubuntu on their TP2, answer me this: given that I can get to the run box, what's the program to run to recalibrate the screen? |
| 06:38.24 | arrrghhh | well if it's the same as xdandroid, you just delete the ts-calibration file |
| 06:38.33 | arrrghhh | and then on boot it asks to recalibrate |
| 06:39.31 | arrrghhh | i have a tp2, but never used ubuntu on it... |
| 06:45.41 | jonpry | you have to delete the calibration file |
| 06:50.01 | arrrghhh | isn't that what i said... :P |
| 06:51.51 | arrrghhh | jonpry, how are you doin mate. haven't seen you say much in here in quite some time... |
| 06:59.48 | *** join/#htc-linux GlemSom (~glemsom@0x5da34bca.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk) |
| 07:08.23 | *** join/#htc-linux Netham45__ (~Netham45@c-67-166-1-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 07:20.40 | *** join/#htc-linux Netrix (~Netrix@CPE00222d9f4e3f-CM00222d9f4e3b.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 07:22.07 | *** join/#htc-linux Chalkster (~Chalkster@cpc1-ando4-0-0-cust799.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:26.21 | *** part/#htc-linux Netrix (~Netrix@CPE00222d9f4e3f-CM00222d9f4e3b.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 07:29.14 | *** join/#htc-linux kvaster (~kvaster@vpn-e0.bas-net.by) |
| 07:41.53 | *** join/#htc-linux dekar_ (~dekar@drms-4d015a02.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 07:43.53 | *** join/#htc-linux Andreyxxl[HD2EU] (~Andreyxxl@89.32.146.153) |
| 08:00.08 | *** join/#htc-linux Echo31 (~olivier@mir31-4-82-240-194-54.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:13.50 | *** join/#htc-linux Andreyxxl[HD2EU] (~Andreyxxl@89.32.146.153) |
| 08:32.17 | *** join/#htc-linux jonolo (~jonolo@host-87-75-138-19.dslgb.com) |
| 08:34.11 | *** join/#htc-linux Dust2Dust (~Houtveste@205-50.bbned.dsl.internl.net) |
| 08:38.01 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen (~kiozen@rgnb-5d878755.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:46.22 | *** join/#htc-linux Chalkster (~Chalkster@cpc1-ando4-0-0-cust799.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:52.47 | *** join/#htc-linux goxboxlive (~jrs@92.84-48-211.nextgentel.com) |
| 09:22.15 | *** join/#htc-linux |Jeroen| (~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:44.52 | *** join/#htc-linux Neo31 (~Neo31@unaffiliated/neo31) |
| 09:47.38 | *** join/#htc-linux LeTama (~IceChat7@vau06-1-82-228-252-90.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:47.49 | *** join/#htc-linux theredund (~thereduda@27-32-116-207.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:48.08 | *** join/#htc-linux naxx (~andrew@ppp91-78-20-22.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 09:49.01 | *** join/#htc-linux Arash18k (~Arash18k@94.182.90.175) |
| 09:55.23 | *** join/#htc-linux mdeejay_ (~mdeejay@188.168.168.101) |
| 10:14.08 | *** join/#htc-linux flaep (~flaep@188.109.111.178) |
| 10:17.29 | *** join/#htc-linux pkirsche_ (~pkirsche@p5DF533AF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:18.23 | *** join/#htc-linux brazier (~brazier@137.79-160-138.customer.lyse.net) |
| 10:23.01 | *** join/#htc-linux miknix (~miknix@gentoo/developer/miknix) |
| 10:23.45 | *** join/#htc-linux GNUtoo|laptop (~gnutoo@host108-131-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:24.40 | *** part/#htc-linux pkirsche_ (~pkirsche@p5DF533AF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:28.12 | *** join/#htc-linux DuperMan (~1@93-172-186-171.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 10:28.55 | *** join/#htc-linux noe (~noe@94-23-154-153.kimsufi.com) |
| 10:44.50 | brazier | why does the makescript say that /dir-to/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc does not exist when it in fact does? |
| 10:50.13 | *** join/#htc-linux Brazier (~AliG@137.79-160-138.customer.lyse.net) |
| 10:51.08 | flaep | chmod? |
| 10:54.12 | Brazier | nope it is set to 777 |
| 10:55.03 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-211-173.dsl.kci.net.nz) |
| 10:55.51 | Brazier | found it out:P typo |
| 10:56.58 | vegaman | tab completion :D easy way to avoid typo's like that |
| 10:57.37 | Brazier | that was the problem:P |
| 11:00.01 | *** join/#htc-linux TheDeadCPU (~TheDeadCP@ti0064a380-0702.bb.online.no) |
| 11:00.22 | vegaman | Brazier: out of interest, you using the codesourcery toolchain too? |
| 11:02.33 | Brazier | yeah |
| 11:03.26 | Brazier | but in not long im not going to use sh** cus i hate errors |
| 11:03.58 | vegaman | was wondering if it was the right choice... since there doesn't seem to be much choice and making my own toolchain for cross-compiling has never worked |
| 11:04.02 | vegaman | errors? |
| 11:04.22 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w (~bob@pD95ECAA1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:04.59 | Brazier | scripts/mod/sumversion.c: In function ‘get_src_version’: |
| 11:04.59 | Brazier | scripts/mod/sumversion.c:384: error: ‘PATH_MAX’ undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 11:04.59 | Brazier | scripts/mod/sumversion.c:384: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 11:04.59 | Brazier | scripts/mod/sumversion.c:384: error: for each function it appears in.) |
| 11:04.59 | Brazier | scripts/mod/sumversion.c:384: warning: unused variable ‘filelist’ |
| 11:05.00 | Brazier | make[2]: *** [scripts/mod/sumversion.o] Error 1 |
| 11:05.01 | Brazier | make[1]: *** [scripts/mod] Er |
| 11:05.50 | Brazier | and since im not a programmer and just a "do what webpage" tells me to i dont understand wht im doing wrong:P |
| 11:07.24 | vegaman | haha, gotta learn sometime :-P , pretty self-explanatory, it's trying to do something with PATH_MAX but it's not in the code... what are you trying to compile? |
| 11:07.50 | Brazier | kernel |
| 11:07.58 | Brazier | for a pxa272 |
| 11:08.34 | vegaman | ah, leo here |
| 11:08.48 | vegaman | is there a defconfig for it that you've tried? |
| 11:09.11 | Brazier | yeah and iwe run it without as much as an error |
| 11:09.35 | Brazier | so should i declare PATH_MAX maybe? |
| 11:10.20 | *** join/#htc-linux taiu (~andrem@allikas.gospa.ee) |
| 11:10.40 | vegaman | not really, since you have no idea what it's supposed to be, most likely it's in something that hasn't been included because of the config |
| 11:10.46 | *** join/#htc-linux Guachiflai (57d91f4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.217.31.74) |
| 11:13.16 | Brazier | i tried another defconfig which is for an almost identical hardware and still same error. |
| 11:14.10 | Brazier | so the thing is one of the developers is making this happen to me:P |
| 11:14.25 | vegaman | using the right kernel source? |
| 11:15.03 | Brazier | well the source is 3yrs old but should still be functional, only place i could find it |
| 11:16.54 | vegaman | looks like http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Xanadux could have some info for you... most people here are using leo (hd2) or rhodium though |
| 11:17.10 | Brazier | actually the file with the error is 4 yrs old:O |
| 11:20.23 | Brazier | it says kernel works, why not just give me the link and would have to sit her compiling old code:P |
| 11:21.30 | vegaman | what device? |
| 11:22.35 | Brazier | htcbeetles/ipaq hw6515 |
| 11:23.11 | Brazier | i googled the error and it seems to be a general kernel problem with the version i have, i found a patch i think |
| 11:23.54 | Brazier | yep |
| 11:24.16 | Brazier | included an extra file in sumversion.o |
| 11:25.28 | Arash18k | climits.h ? |
| 11:25.46 | Brazier | limits.h |
| 11:27.07 | Arash18k | limits is already included in that file |
| 11:27.28 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (~fcr@AMontpellier-554-1-90-183.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:27.28 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (~fcr@unaffiliated/babelo) |
| 11:28.45 | Brazier | i didnt find it if its not included through another file |
| 11:29.06 | Brazier | and the kernel compiled |
| 11:29.09 | *** join/#htc-linux tjs_bsd (~tjs@mail.CDPA.cc) |
| 11:29.23 | Arash18k | ah then your file is different :p |
| 11:29.57 | Arash18k | it should be in that file, not included anywhere else |
| 11:31.20 | Brazier | byt my source is 4 yrs old |
| 11:35.04 | *** join/#htc-linux kroukes2000 (2961ef9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.97.239.159) |
| 11:46.03 | *** join/#htc-linux pH5 (~ph5@e178225189.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:46.56 | Brazier | what a beautiful little penguin on my ipaq |
| 11:48.36 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-211-173.dsl.kci.net.nz) |
| 11:50.04 | Brazier | its working |
| 11:51.11 | vegaman | sweet |
| 11:51.42 | vegaman | now you have the fun of trying to get otherstuff to work, running any userspace? |
| 11:52.36 | *** join/#htc-linux TheDeadCPU (~TheDeadCP@ti0064a380-0702.bb.online.no) |
| 11:52.39 | Brazier | not yet, u see all normal ppl left this device... |
| 11:53.02 | vegaman | yeah, go get an hd2 :-P |
| 11:53.40 | Brazier | this is my testphone |
| 11:53.49 | Brazier | i already have a phone running native linux |
| 11:54.53 | vegaman | fair enough |
| 11:56.36 | Brazier | in the end the hope was to be running debian with lxde just for phun |
| 12:02.38 | *** join/#htc-linux TheDeadCPU (~TheDeadCP@ti0064a380-0702.bb.online.no) |
| 12:05.19 | *** join/#htc-linux LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-165-181.netcologne.de) |
| 12:05.40 | *** part/#htc-linux TheDeadCPU (~TheDeadCP@ti0064a380-0702.bb.online.no) |
| 12:19.08 | *** join/#htc-linux Jack-E (~Jack@host86-165-173-43.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:21.36 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-211-173.dsl.kci.net.nz) |
| 12:33.24 | *** join/#htc-linux MethoS- (~clemens@134.102.106.250) |
| 12:38.09 | *** join/#htc-linux flagada (58a1e24e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.161.226.78) |
| 12:39.29 | Brazier | what would be the next step intp getting my device to boot into something useful |
| 12:41.44 | Arash18k | simple busybox? |
| 12:45.35 | Brazier | hmm |
| 12:50.58 | dcordes | hi |
| 12:51.08 | dcordes | Arash18k: ubuntu |
| 12:51.18 | dcordes | Arash18k: we can document the image creation |
| 12:51.29 | dcordes | Arash18k: did you compile the "gnu" kernel for hd2 ? |
| 12:51.43 | Arash18k | i'm using pre-build usbhost atm |
| 12:52.20 | Arash18k | was trying rootstock for lucid but it need ubuntu kernel patch |
| 12:52.20 | dcordes | ok |
| 12:52.28 | dcordes | don't use lucid |
| 12:52.31 | dcordes | use maverick |
| 12:52.46 | dcordes | are you in #ubuntu-arm ? |
| 12:52.52 | Arash18k | yep using karmik atm, it boots to login, but looks like networking crashes befor starting |
| 12:52.57 | Arash18k | no |
| 12:53.23 | Arash18k | freenode? |
| 12:53.31 | dcordes | yese |
| 12:53.36 | *** join/#htc-linux |Jeroen| (~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:53.42 | dcordes | [[Ubuntu]] |
| 12:53.43 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu |
| 12:53.47 | dcordes | unilinky: good boy |
| 12:54.43 | dcordes | wiki has a trivia for user creation now. no more spam accounts !! |
| 12:54.48 | dcordes | thanks to ellis |
| 12:56.42 | dcordes | ~seen vgrade |
| 12:56.46 | apt | vgrade <~martinbro@cpc2-nrte22-2-0-cust128.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 3d 13h 32m 42s ago, saying: 'only seems to have homes for auke,lbt,sivan,stskeeps and xfade ATM'. |
| 12:57.42 | *** join/#htc-linux bally3 (~bally3@cpc10-blbn8-2-0-cust86.10-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:57.45 | LeTama | hi dcordes, sorry for brutal silence last time, too many tunnels ;) |
| 12:58.31 | Kensan | dcordes: hi there |
| 12:58.56 | LeTama | HD2 users, new libwrapper for test here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824413 |
| 12:58.56 | dcordes | Kensan: hey. long time no see |
| 12:59.10 | dcordes | LeTama: don't worry I got side tracked as well |
| 12:59.26 | Kensan | dcordes: yeah, been out of the country and before that doing my yearly military service. |
| 12:59.30 | dcordes | LeTama: hope you arrived savely despite strikes etc :) |
| 12:59.38 | Kensan | dcordes: how are things? |
| 13:00.07 | dcordes | Kensan: a geek at war ? :) I thought they abolished the need to serve |
| 13:00.48 | LeTama | dcordes: yes, thanks. In fact, train are more on schedule during strike and I'm forced to go back home earlier... Not so bad finally |
| 13:01.10 | theredund | sup kents |
| 13:01.17 | *** join/#htc-linux gauner1986 (~Miranda@p508C6A18.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:01.50 | dcordes | LeTama: I take it you live at the french riviera ? |
| 13:02.10 | Kensan | dcordes: Not war; defend neutrality *heh* |
| 13:02.14 | theredund | how u fellas doing aye |
| 13:02.21 | LeTama | dcordes: yes |
| 13:02.31 | gauner1986 | hi |
| 13:02.34 | Kensan | dcordes: I just put my brain in hibernation so I survive... |
| 13:02.39 | LeTama | hi gauner1986 |
| 13:03.15 | *** join/#htc-linux Rajko (~Rajko@wan.rajkonet.info) |
| 13:04.12 | LeTama | gauner1986: I modified libhtc_ril_wrapper for pppd to monitor it and relaunch if it dies |
| 13:06.54 | *** join/#htc-linux slim_ (~slim_@41.239.33.137) |
| 13:08.49 | *** join/#htc-linux Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@dynamic-acs-24-112-135-245.zoominternet.net) |
| 13:08.55 | Hunterkll | Ubuntu grumble grumble :P |
| 13:10.03 | dcordes | LeTama: cool it's such a nice area.. |
| 13:10.08 | dcordes | hi Hunterkll |
| 13:10.16 | Hunterkll | hi |
| 13:10.24 | *** join/#htc-linux RaiderX (~AndChat@91.110.72.178) |
| 13:10.37 | dcordes | ~leo-android |
| 13:10.37 | apt | hmm... leo-android is http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Android |
| 13:10.46 | Hunterkll | dcordes, i have gotten hung up |
| 13:11.04 | Hunterkll | I do not understand why haret is not properly executing my kernel, or why my kernel is not properly executing itself |
| 13:11.15 | Hunterkll | I need to build serial device, I guess. I break down and do this sometime soon :) |
| 13:12.44 | Hunterkll | I think I need to do more research into how the kernel actually gets jumped into, not the kernel itself. I may be trying to jump off wrong? |
| 13:13.37 | LeTama | dcordes: true |
| 13:13.49 | dcordes | Hunterkll: I recommend hopping on the haret mailing list [[Contact]] |
| 13:13.50 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contact |
| 13:13.56 | noellenchris-zzz | LeTama, thx for wrapper, I will give it a go....:P |
| 13:14.24 | LeTama | noellenchris: thanks |
| 13:14.26 | Hunterkll | dcordes, I'd laugh a lot if we added solaris specific support, oh dear. |
| 13:14.31 | Hunterkll | can haret in theory load another nk.exe? |
| 13:14.37 | Hunterkll | or is it mainly wrapped around linux |
| 13:14.52 | Hunterkll | I have yet to dive into that code |
| 13:14.59 | dcordes | gauner1986: LeTama it would be nice to add some info on what the wrapper is either in gitorious description or in wiki link above |
| 13:15.24 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-211-173.dsl.kci.net.nz) |
| 13:15.44 | dcordes | hi noellenchris |
| 13:16.09 | *** join/#htc-linux Cass-hd2 (~Cass@188-220-34-222.zone11.bethere.co.uk) |
| 13:16.11 | noellenchris | hi dcordes |
| 13:16.21 | dcordes | Hunterkll: nobody will shoot you for asking solaris related things in the haret ml |
| 13:16.51 | dcordes | Hunterkll: I'm not too good with all this but I guess haret is a good base to start off for what you are trying to do |
| 13:16.56 | Cass-hd2 | hey letama how you monitor for change? |
| 13:17.02 | Hunterkll | yes, right now i'm trying to get a kernel to execute |
| 13:17.09 | Hunterkll | beyond that, it's a whole new world out there, friends |
| 13:17.55 | LeTama | Cass-hd2, as wrapper launch it, I can do a wait(pid). It should be cpu/power friendly |
| 13:18.33 | Cass-hd2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.44 | Cass-hd2 | works nixe |
| 13:18.54 | dcordes | [[Leo/Android]] beside libhtc_ril_wrapper what are the other modifications in android user space that are critical to use it on HD2 ? |
| 13:18.55 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Android |
| 13:19.06 | Cass-hd2 | but if yous wotks perfect :) |
| 13:19.39 | dcordes | it would be good to demystify rom creation |
| 13:19.41 | LeTama | Cass-hd2: notify on filesystem change with pid file? |
| 13:20.05 | dcordes | instead of creating an autobuildsystem we can add a sticky with all the information at xda-developers |
| 13:20.24 | Cass-hd2 | binary that looks for notifications from fil/ dir changes |
| 13:20.43 | Cass-hd2 | kernel alerts inode change |
| 13:22.23 | Cass-hd2 | curious if your wait pid watches fir many changes? |
| 13:22.54 | Cass-hd2 | ie does it start then go back ti monitir? |
| 13:23.04 | gauner1986 | LeTama: ah, good news :) |
| 13:23.31 | gauner1986 | LeTama: you have commit rights? otherwise i'll commit it |
| 13:23.48 | Cass-hd2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.56 | Cass-hd2 | amn phone |
| 13:24.46 | dcordes | gauner1986: can you help completing above wiki page ? |
| 13:24.51 | gauner1986 | dcordes: it sends some at commands to have it working on nand |
| 13:25.27 | gauner1986 | okay |
| 13:25.39 | dcordes | except for [[Leo/Magldr]] hd2 nand is unknown in the wiki |
| 13:25.39 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Magldr |
| 13:27.35 | LeTama | gauner1986: I don't think I have commit rights. you want to commit right away or wait for some feedback ? |
| 13:29.47 | gauner1986 | letama: hm. i'd prefer to have it tested first.. you have a diff? |
| 13:32.51 | dcordes | LeTama: you have a gitorious account, right ? |
| 13:33.10 | gauner1986 | the repo is owned by dan1j3l |
| 13:34.00 | dcordes | ~seen dan13l |
| 13:34.06 | apt | dcordes: i haven't seen 'dan13l' |
| 13:34.06 | dcordes | ~seen dan1j3l |
| 13:34.06 | apt | dan1j3l <~dan1j3l@93-142-54-40.adsl.net.t-com.hr> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 3d 16h 58m 54s ago, saying: 'heh, late eater :p'. |
| 13:34.12 | dcordes | ok |
| 13:34.25 | gauner1986 | he's busy atm ^^ |
| 13:35.25 | dcordes | what is the situation with Magldr ? you are talking about some nand performance tuning or so while this thing doesn't even exist. a leaked binary ? |
| 13:35.44 | gauner1986 | no, just closed testing |
| 13:35.46 | noellenchris | I'm putting the wrapper through some stress test...hehe....so far it's working.....at least if I say it's working it'l pass the knock on wood test...:P |
| 13:36.53 | dcordes | I like cr2's comment on u-boot http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&day=29 |
| 13:37.13 | dcordes | it would be nicer to have u-boot working as an alternative to the binary bootloader |
| 13:37.23 | gauner1986 | true |
| 13:37.29 | gauner1986 | but magldr has some very nice features |
| 13:38.11 | Rajko | its also completely unknown |
| 13:38.26 | Rajko | and has bugs you cant fix |
| 13:38.39 | dcordes | gauner1986: yes features that exist in other open source bootloaders |
| 13:39.11 | dcordes | actually one feature in magldr would be sufficient: booting linux kernel. rest can be done with kexec |
| 13:39.14 | Rajko | like i'd like to have a little recovery mode going like it exists on real android devices |
| 13:39.16 | gauner1986 | mass storage.. ramconsole to sd.. usb tty.. boot menu.. |
| 13:39.36 | gauner1986 | and even it can boot wp7 / wm65 |
| 13:40.10 | NetRipper | is it open source? |
| 13:40.17 | gauner1986 | nope |
| 13:40.21 | NetRipper | there we go |
| 13:40.23 | dcordes | http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/kexecboot/ |
| 13:40.36 | dcordes | NetRipper: hi |
| 13:40.40 | NetRipper | hi m8 |
| 13:40.53 | dcordes | what you think about uboot ? can we do it ? |
| 13:41.16 | *** join/#htc-linux lkthomas_ (~lkthomas@n219077081010.netvigator.com) |
| 13:41.16 | NetRipper | umm i have been out of it for a long time |
| 13:41.18 | lkthomas_ | hey guys |
| 13:41.23 | Rajko | uboot is very nice |
| 13:41.51 | lkthomas_ | does HD2 is the most successfully winmo device ported to android ? |
| 13:42.00 | lkthomas_ | HD2 price is still too high to buy and do hacks |
| 13:42.02 | *** join/#htc-linux luc_ (5e3edc93@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.62.220.147) |
| 13:42.10 | dcordes | ~seen Markinus |
| 13:42.13 | apt | markinus <~Miranda@212.255.42.243> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 22h 39m 49s ago, saying: 'think'. |
| 13:42.13 | lkthomas_ | want to find alternative if there is a cheaper one |
| 13:42.35 | Rajko | lkthomas_, no |
| 13:42.41 | *** join/#htc-linux Neonkoala (~Neonkoala@cpc1-rdng18-0-0-cust21.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:42.45 | lkthomas_ | Rajko: yeah ? what is the no mean ? |
| 13:43.13 | *** join/#htc-linux tfouto (5f5fcbed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.95.203.237) |
| 13:43.56 | lkthomas_ | HD2 used device price is almost similar with Dell Streak |
| 13:43.59 | gauner1986 | i wonder if ppp dieing is the only symptom of data disconnects |
| 13:44.36 | dcordes | gauner1986: you mean pppd process ends when the connection closes ? |
| 13:44.44 | lkthomas_ | also, any plan for xda dev community to port the SD android flash into native flash ? |
| 13:44.57 | *** join/#htc-linux hastarin (~hastarin@220-253-153-24.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 13:45.21 | dcordes | gauner1986: from 'man pppd' : |
| 13:45.25 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.25 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.34 | gauner1986 | dcordes: yeah.. but i wonder if this is the only issue with it.. |
| 13:45.44 | dcordes | I don't see where it is an issue |
| 13:45.49 | gauner1986 | dcordes: we tried persist, doesnt make a change |
| 13:45.56 | dcordes | it's expected (see above) |
| 13:46.07 | dcordes | ok |
| 13:46.20 | dcordes | do you run some patched andorid pppd ? |
| 13:46.33 | lkthomas_ | anyone mind to answer my questions ? |
| 13:46.37 | *** join/#htc-linux ^A^kira (~quassel@static.36.105.40.188.clients.your-server.de) |
| 13:46.51 | tfouto | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-inotify/?ca=drs- |
| 13:47.04 | tfouto | this was what cass was talking... |
| 13:47.08 | tfouto | hastarin find it... |
| 13:47.11 | dcordes | Efficient and effective file system event-monitoring in the 2.6 kernel |
| 13:47.39 | hastarin | Hi folks. I just noticed LeTama has posted a new library. I was going to ask if he's using inotify, and look, tfouto just mentioned it. :p |
| 13:47.41 | dcordes | tfouto: ah I have seen 'hastarin hd2 kernel' on xda |
| 13:48.06 | lkthomas_ | Hello ?! |
| 13:48.09 | lkthomas_ | anyone still alive ? |
| 13:48.18 | dcordes | hastarin: do you have a list of changes you make in your kernel ? |
| 13:48.32 | hastarin | lkthomas_: Ask questions in -chat. |
| 13:48.37 | dcordes | hastarin: we should cooperate and merge useful things in the main kernel |
| 13:48.57 | hastarin | dcordes: My build includes a diff against the main tree at the time I built it. |
| 13:49.05 | lkthomas_ | hastarin: where ?! |
| 13:49.19 | tfouto | htc-linux-chat |
| 13:49.25 | hastarin | dcordes: I've sent Letama and Markinus messages on gitorious about doing just that. |
| 13:50.31 | dcordes | hastarin: such things should be discussed on mobile-linux mailing list [[Mailing_Lists]] or here |
| 13:50.31 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Mailing_Lists |
| 13:50.45 | dcordes | else limited amount of people will see it |
| 13:51.30 | hastarin | Looking at the archive no one is using that? |
| 13:52.34 | *** join/#htc-linux RaiderX (~AndChat@91.110.72.178) |
| 13:52.35 | dcordes | just send patches there |
| 13:52.51 | noellenchris | lkthomas, pls use the chat channel for questions not related to dev..... |
| 13:53.38 | dcordes | hastarin: this a good way to send patches: [[AdvancedGitGuide#Patches]] |
| 13:53.38 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=AdvancedGitGuide%23Patches |
| 13:54.14 | hastarin | I can just push direct to the main tree that I cloned from. No need to deal with patches. |
| 13:55.30 | hastarin | The patches are rather Leo specific. I can't see them being of use to the wider community. |
| 13:55.30 | noellenchris | morning hastarin, LeTama is not using notify, but Cass was trying to tell him about it, but he's on his phone and hates typing on his small 4.3 inch screen, Cass wants a Android tablet.....hehe |
| 13:56.37 | dcordes | hastarin: don't worry. it is of use to more people to put it on he list than letting it drown in the microcosm of this git website |
| 13:56.45 | hastarin | hehe well the link tfouto pasted above should tell him more than I can. I'd be happy to explain the basic concept, but not sure LeTama is about atm? |
| 13:57.04 | dcordes | hastarin: there are logs. |
| 13:57.42 | *** join/#htc-linux mastermerlin (~Adium@p4FEE4D45.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:57.45 | hastarin | Yes but doesn't mean he reads them. If he did he'd already have seen me mention it and that link. |
| 13:57.57 | RaiderX | Hi |
| 13:57.59 | *** join/#htc-linux mastermerlin1 (~Adium@p4FEE4D45.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:58.47 | dcordes | hastarin: regarding kernel it would also be a good step to mention your code in the wiki |
| 13:58.55 | hastarin | dcordes: My patches are against the git main tree for Leo, not xandroid or one of the other ports. I can post them to the list, but they obviously won't be able to be applied as is. |
| 13:58.56 | dcordes | [[Leo/Kernel]] |
| 13:58.56 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Kernel |
| 13:59.26 | LeTama | In fact, I use wait(pid), which is probably more efficient than using a notify on filesystem |
| 13:59.35 | RaiderX | Hi |
| 13:59.37 | dcordes | hastarin: I will add ti in the news section so it's seen |
| 13:59.50 | hastarin | LeTama: Cool :) |
| 14:00.14 | dcordes | hastarin: sorry it's Leo#Kernel |
| 14:00.44 | hastarin | dcordes: Add what? I've just done a few minor patches to the base kernel. It's really not that different to http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_on_wince_htc |
| 14:01.12 | hastarin | dcordes: Do you want me to link to my kernel thread from there? |
| 14:01.13 | dcordes | hastarin: a reference to your copy of the leo kernel source code |
| 14:01.40 | dcordes | hastarin: if it holds additional information that might be useful as well |
| 14:01.51 | luc_ | dcordes: any news on ubuntu? |
| 14:01.59 | dcordes | luc_: what news do you want ? |
| 14:02.06 | luc_ | 0.3 |
| 14:02.44 | luc_ | are you still workin on that? |
| 14:02.58 | RaiderX | Anyone tried porting dhd kernel to Leo? |
| 14:03.26 | hastarin | dcordes: I'll make some notes to do what you've requested when I get a chance. It's 1am atm so you'll have to forgive me if I don't do it right now. :) |
| 14:03.54 | RaiderX | Wow its 2pm here |
| 14:05.14 | tfouto | Letama how long does ppp to reconect? in average? |
| 14:06.41 | hastarin | LeTama: Sounds like your patched wrapper should restart pppd when it dies (which coincidentally isn't a problem I've had), but just to make sure you know (you probably do) there is still something related to data that causes it to hang completely and smd_tty to start flipping out requiring a reboot. I'm yet to manage to log the crashthough. |
| 14:07.43 | LeTama | Tfouto: 2 seconds after pppd termination |
| 14:08.01 | tfouto | nice... |
| 14:08.17 | LeTama | plus 2 to 5 seconds to re-establish |
| 14:08.51 | *** join/#htc-linux leobaillard (~leobailla@leobaillard.org) |
| 14:08.53 | dcordes | luc_: yes and no |
| 14:09.03 | luc_ | i see |
| 14:09.14 | dcordes | luc_: I have v ery few time thus I'm creating instructions on how I do it. watch [[Ubuntu/Leo]] |
| 14:09.14 | luc_ | some issues |
| 14:09.15 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo |
| 14:09.54 | luc_ | 0.2 was super ok |
| 14:10.33 | dcordes | luc_: 0.2 is super slow because the base is designed for an older processor |
| 14:11.26 | LeTama | hastarin: I saw some memory problems with smd_tty yes, but didn't see anymore it since my last commit |
| 14:11.41 | luc_ | maybe we should go for meego |
| 14:11.42 | LeTama | err, 'see it anymore' |
| 14:12.38 | darkstone | hi |
| 14:12.48 | hastarin | LeTama: I've had it since that, though that's with my kernel. Not that I expect the changes I've made to be the cause of it. Part of the reason I've tried to get my kernel closer to the main tree is so any issues reported are of more use. |
| 14:13.29 | LeTama | hastarin, ok... you have the dmesg ? |
| 14:13.45 | hastarin | LeTama: I'll install your new wrapper now and see if I can fault/crash data. Playing with Speedtest is what did it earlier. |
| 14:14.04 | LeTama | ok |
| 14:14.50 | hastarin | LeTama: Sadly the dmesg is rapidly filled with "<3>[13863.370758] smd_tty_work_func: tty_prepare_flip_string fail " when it happens. |
| 14:15.00 | noellenchris | speedtest is very nice +20 or so test and got bored...moving on to market and Tmous mobi tv.... |
| 14:15.33 | LeTama | hastarin: ok, so same problem then |
| 14:15.42 | hastarin | So I haven't caught what happens just before this. I had once seen oom kicking in and the error that I patched for (http://gitorious.org/~hastarin/linux-on-wince-htc/hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc/commit/034a9856f881879fda9b2299364bf2b6692a36aa) |
| 14:16.42 | hastarin | So I'd hoped between that and your change to lowmem/himem it might have been prevented, but no luck. I'll definitely let folks know if I can reproduce and get logs. |
| 14:17.12 | LeTama | hastarin: interesting... Have to run for now, we'll discuss that later. Could be because pppd dies and smd_tty retains data until it goes back |
| 14:17.17 | *** join/#htc-linux IFailStuff (~IFail@unaffiliated/ifailstuff) |
| 14:26.55 | *** join/#htc-linux mitsutaka (~mitsutaka@p1227-ipbf3907marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 14:27.36 | *** join/#htc-linux Echo31 (~olivier@mir31-4-82-240-194-54.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:30.43 | *** join/#htc-linux bally3 (~bally3@cpc10-blbn8-2-0-cust86.10-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 14:42.22 | *** join/#htc-linux FD-hd2 (~FD-hd2@82.132.211.106) |
| 14:49.53 | *** join/#htc-linux NujaWay (~R2D2@chy94-2-82-226-71-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:54.02 | *** join/#htc-linux m77 (~m77@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust764.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 14:54.09 | *** part/#htc-linux m77 (~m77@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust764.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 14:54.39 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-211-173.dsl.kci.net.nz) |
| 14:56.03 | *** part/#htc-linux Arash18k (~Arash18k@94.182.90.175) |
| 14:59.03 | *** join/#htc-linux brazier (~brazier@137.79-160-138.customer.lyse.net) |
| 14:59.05 | *** join/#htc-linux jonpry (~jonpry@63.245.31.4) |
| 15:00.19 | *** join/#htc-linux mitsutaka (~mitsutaka@p1227-ipbf3907marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 15:07.20 | *** join/#htc-linux brazier (~brazier@137.79-160-138.customer.lyse.net) |
| 15:12.10 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-209-226.kc.net.nz) |
| 15:14.51 | *** join/#htc-linux brazier (~brazier@137.79-160-138.customer.lyse.net) |
| 15:15.06 | brazier | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:15.47 | brazier | i do understand that this might be a bit naggin question, but we all gotta start somewhere. |
| 15:16.57 | Rajko | whatever you want |
| 15:17.09 | Rajko | kernel launches initrd/init |
| 15:17.09 | Rajko | it doesnt care |
| 15:19.42 | *** join/#htc-linux brazier (~brazier@137.79-160-138.customer.lyse.net) |
| 15:22.14 | *** join/#htc-linux brazier (~brazier@137.79-160-138.customer.lyse.net) |
| 15:30.15 | *** join/#htc-linux Rob2223 (~Miranda@p4FFF28E4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:30.30 | *** join/#htc-linux brazier (~brazier@137.79-160-138.customer.lyse.net) |
| 15:30.31 | Rob2223 | Hello all. |
| 15:32.50 | *** join/#htc-linux [acl] (~abel@cpe-69-203-141-229.si.res.rr.com) |
| 15:33.57 | *** join/#htc-linux Daevoq (~IceChat7@host148-0-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:36.06 | *** join/#htc-linux |Jeroen| (~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:36.57 | *** join/#htc-linux g3rm (g3rm@chello089072100169.chello.pl) |
| 15:57.20 | *** join/#htc-linux AgentBlair (~AgentBlai@adsl-69-224-191-49.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 16:06.53 | *** join/#htc-linux Ashar (deadly@unaffiliated/ashar) |
| 16:14.10 | *** part/#htc-linux slim_ (~slim_@41.239.33.137) |
| 16:16.56 | *** join/#htc-linux programmer8922 (~Evan@67.219.166.182) |
| 16:18.01 | *** join/#htc-linux life4ufn (~jimmy@114-37-132-157.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 16:18.54 | g3rm | phh here? |
| 16:23.31 | *** join/#htc-linux mastermerlin (~Adium@p4FEE4D45.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:27.10 | *** join/#htc-linux largeprime (~LargePrim@173-109-3-225.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 16:31.12 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (~fcr@AMontpellier-554-1-90-183.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:31.12 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (~fcr@unaffiliated/babelo) |
| 16:35.07 | *** join/#htc-linux gauner1986 (~Miranda@p508C6A18.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:35.11 | gauner1986 | hi |
| 16:35.49 | toastcfh | hi |
| 16:36.18 | toastcfh | apt lart everyone for being quiet |
| 16:36.18 | apt | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at everyone for being quiet |
| 16:39.14 | hastarin | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-page-allocation-failure-erro/ Going to try 200 for vfs_cache_pressure to see if it helps with pppd crash I am still getting. |
| 16:40.46 | *** join/#htc-linux leobaillard (~leobailla@leobaillard.org) |
| 16:42.34 | *** join/#htc-linux largeprime (~LargePrim@173-109-3-225.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 16:43.52 | gauner1986 | letama: here? |
| 16:44.30 | LeTama | yes |
| 16:44.44 | gauner1986 | you have the diff for the ril stuff? |
| 16:45.50 | LeTama | gauner1986: Doing it... However, wait for committing, I have crash modem reports |
| 16:45.57 | gauner1986 | hum |
| 16:45.58 | gauner1986 | okay |
| 16:46.05 | hastarin | LeTama: Just replied on thread. I am up and running again but have to give up on testing that wrapper. I need sleep. |
| 16:46.36 | LeTama | hastarin: ok. saw your log, modem crash... I'll do more tests |
| 16:46.50 | gauner1986 | letama: maybe you should also commit the commenting out of the reboot in smd.c where the arm9 crashes |
| 16:47.11 | LeTama | gauner1986: right |
| 16:47.51 | hastarin | I'll try to read IRC logs after work tomorrow. See above for another "tweak" I'm trying. Ie. "write /proc/sys/vm/vfs_cache_pressure 200 " in init.rc |
| 16:48.49 | *** join/#htc-linux taiu (~andrem@20.146.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 17:01.49 | *** join/#htc-linux theredund (ohnoes@27-32-116-207.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 17:13.17 | *** join/#htc-linux noobhands (~noobhands@cpc2-hitc6-2-0-cust335.9-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:17.52 | *** join/#htc-linux Chalkster (~Chalkster@cpc1-ando4-0-0-cust799.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:19.49 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-209-226.kc.net.nz) |
| 17:22.02 | *** join/#htc-linux tekoholic (~quassel@174-29-134-201.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 17:27.41 | *** join/#htc-linux curiousGeorge (ae14382d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.20.56.45) |
| 17:28.24 | curiousGeorge | Hi all! I was wondering about the progress of ALSA wrapper development (for non-Android userspace). |
| 17:28.25 | *** join/#htc-linux cazh_ (~quassel@3007ds2-rd.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 17:30.00 | curiousGeorge | dcordes ? Are you the same dcordes on xda-developers? |
| 17:31.03 | curiousGeorge | I've been following the htc_linux twitter account, and there was mention of a "beta" of "Ubuntu 0.3" to be released a few weeks ago. Did I miss the beta, or was it delayed due to other circumstances? |
| 17:33.07 | *** join/#htc-linux Andreyxxl[HD2EU] (~Andreyxxl@89.32.146.153) |
| 17:36.01 | *** join/#htc-linux gauner1986 (~Miranda@p508C6A18.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:40.20 | *** join/#htc-linux wladston (~wladston@201.80.94.14) |
| 17:47.03 | curiousGeorge | I also want to know if there have been efforts to integrate the V4L driver yet (camera support). |
| 17:53.01 | *** join/#htc-linux theredund (ohnoes@27-32-116-207.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 17:53.45 | gauner1986 | hey fakker |
| 17:53.53 | fakker | hi |
| 17:54.10 | *** join/#htc-linux Downy (~Downy@p5DF533AF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:54.29 | *** join/#htc-linux Andreyxxl[HD2EU] (~Andreyxxl@89.32.146.153) |
| 17:57.07 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-209-226.kc.net.nz) |
| 17:57.29 | *** join/#htc-linux arrrghhh (~arrrghhh@c-71-237-40-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 18:02.52 | g3rm | arrghhh: do you know someone with blackstone who would do some kernel testing? |
| 18:14.54 | arrrghhh | g3rm, camro has a blackstone... |
| 18:15.17 | arrrghhh | i think he said something about it blowing up tho, i have no clue... haven't talked to that cat in a while. |
| 18:15.22 | arrrghhh | ~seen camro |
| 18:15.26 | apt | camro <~camro@89-104-29-101.customer.bnet.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 3d 23h 58m 12s ago, saying: 'ah ok .. then i have no idea - don'T know the kernel from Markinus'. |
| 18:15.52 | g3rm | ok thx |
| 18:16.54 | arrrghhh | i'd just throw up a post in xda-devs under the blackstone android dev section with [TESTING] at the start of the subject. |
| 18:17.07 | arrrghhh | that'll get quite a few people to test whatever you need tested :D |
| 18:17.52 | g3rm | maybe it won't be necessary |
| 18:18.03 | wladston | I'm writing a "getting started with android development" text |
| 18:18.06 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 18:18.08 | wladston | hope it will help people |
| 18:18.47 | g3rm | it's just a quick fix enabling WisTilt2's auto_bl for blackstone |
| 18:19.08 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 18:19.18 | *** join/#htc-linux phh (~quassel@2a01:e35:2e4b:b2b0:250:8dff:fee1:c793) |
| 18:19.46 | g3rm | and I'm a kernel noob so it's likely I've done something wrong :) |
| 18:20.06 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 18:20.10 | arrrghhh | you don't have a blackstone yourself? |
| 18:20.21 | g3rm | I have |
| 18:20.47 | g3rm | and it works on my phone |
| 18:21.14 | *** join/#htc-linux Kasjopaja (~Tina@p57BC1798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:21.59 | arrrghhh | that's good |
| 18:22.08 | g3rm | but I can't be 100% sure for the reasons stated above |
| 18:22.09 | *** join/#htc-linux gnutoo (~gnutoo@host108-131-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:22.17 | arrrghhh | yea, xda-devs will probably be the quickest ways to get the kernel tested |
| 18:23.40 | g3rm | shame WisTilt2 isn't around... he would know if it's ok :) |
| 18:26.05 | phh | g3rm: yes |
| 18:26.20 | g3rm | hi phh |
| 18:26.34 | g3rm | i've made a patch to enable auto_bl on blackstone |
| 18:26.38 | *** join/#htc-linux ALoGeNo (~alogeno@83.34.16.244) |
| 18:26.38 | *** join/#htc-linux ALoGeNo (~alogeno@unaffiliated/alogeno) |
| 18:26.55 | g3rm | using WisTilt2's method |
| 18:27.26 | g3rm | and I'm too n00b to tell if its good enough to be commited |
| 18:29.46 | g3rm | http://pastebin.com/wCW3nwPg |
| 18:30.11 | g3rm | phh: can you take a quick look? |
| 18:31.06 | *** part/#htc-linux flaep (~flaep@188.109.111.178) |
| 18:31.28 | phh | well what you've done is more linked with what i've done than WisTilt2 :p |
| 18:31.30 | phh | anyway, yes it's fine |
| 18:31.42 | phh | and I'm back home, I can commit it \o/ |
| 18:31.52 | g3rm | nice :) |
| 18:37.29 | *** join/#htc-linux XirXes (~chatzilla@c-98-202-0-163.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 18:39.13 | *** join/#htc-linux Downy (~Downy@p5DF533AF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:49.36 | *** join/#htc-linux Patrick (~Downy@p5DF533AF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:49.37 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w (~bob@pD95ECAA1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:53.06 | arrrghhh | haha nice commit g3rm :P |
| 18:56.27 | *** join/#htc-linux Mstrk242 (~Mstrk242@99-183-237-58.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:57.36 | wladston | hummm ... anyone could explain me what is the modules-2.6.27.46-01212-ge59fdaf.tar.gz file that seens to be related to the kernel ? |
| 18:58.41 | AstainW00T | how goes the progress on tp2? |
| 18:59.08 | g3rm | arrrghhh: i'm just happy it worked ;) |
| 19:01.42 | gauner1986 | letama: nice.. i even receive dns now.. :) |
| 19:01.51 | gauner1986 | letama: really curious what you changed |
| 19:03.00 | *** join/#htc-linux L_miller (~IceChat7@68-115-50-78.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 19:06.38 | *** join/#htc-linux tekoholix (~quassel@174-29-180-146.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 19:20.54 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 19:21.05 | gauner1986 | logcat is spammed with: |
| 19:21.05 | gauner1986 | D/pppd ( 3342): rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x64 <ms-dns1 10.11.12.13> <ms-dns3 10.11.12.14> <ms-wins 10.11.12.13> <ms-wins 10.11.12.14>] |
| 19:21.05 | gauner1986 | D/pppd ( 3342): sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x65 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 0.0.0.0>] |
| 19:24.57 | *** join/#htc-linux Chalkster (~Chalkster@cpc1-ando4-0-0-cust799.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:27.13 | wladston | I'm starting to get a rought idea on where does the gps info comes from |
| 19:28.27 | wladston | looks like it comes from HTC hero's source |
| 19:32.29 | *** join/#htc-linux EdangeL (~EdangeL@79.107.221.180) |
| 19:32.31 | LeTama | gauner1986: I enabled debug on pppd, that's why you see all these |
| 19:32.37 | gauner1986 | okay |
| 19:32.43 | gauner1986 | but dns doesnt get set it seems |
| 19:32.50 | gauner1986 | i get spammed with these messages |
| 19:32.55 | gauner1986 | maybe that's why dns is not set |
| 19:33.10 | LeTama | I guess yes |
| 19:33.17 | theadde | anyone having issues with market? everything gets unsuccessfull :o |
| 19:34.06 | gauner1986 | market sucks atm |
| 19:34.07 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 19:34.08 | *** join/#htc-linux kvaster (~kvaster@vpn-e0.bas-net.by) |
| 19:34.18 | *** join/#htc-linux Andreyxxl1 (~Andreyxxl@89.32.146.153) |
| 19:34.52 | gauner1986 | letama: hm.. i'm currently checking if i can just handle one of these requests and abandon further requests |
| 19:36.18 | gauner1986 | letama: maybe the other side is expecting something that we do not send.. |
| 19:36.24 | theadde | sucky market, thought it was permissions on sd that was bogus again. |
| 19:41.14 | LeTama | gauner1986: possible, yes |
| 19:41.46 | *** join/#htc-linux arrrghhh (~arrrghhh@c-71-237-40-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:46.28 | *** join/#htc-linux Jack-E (~Jack@host86-165-173-43.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) |
| 19:57.39 | gauner1986 | letama: setting some ppp options fixes it |
| 19:57.58 | LeTama | gauner1986: oh? what option ? |
| 19:58.01 | *** join/#htc-linux Heh116 (~androirc@c-71-231-132-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:58.14 | gauner1986 | usepeerdns |
| 19:58.14 | gauner1986 | maxfail 40 |
| 19:58.15 | gauner1986 | persist |
| 19:58.15 | gauner1986 | novj |
| 19:58.15 | gauner1986 | novjccomp |
| 19:58.18 | gauner1986 | these options |
| 19:58.33 | gauner1986 | i guess novj and novjcomp are the interesting ones |
| 19:58.55 | gauner1986 | it's set correctly now |
| 19:59.09 | LeTama | nice |
| 19:59.32 | gauner1986 | no need for any dns script hacks anymore |
| 20:00.05 | noellenchris | LeTama, wrapper still working..all day now...no crash yet...and I'm using R8 kernel, as others have boot problems ? oh well thanks for the progress |
| 20:03.48 | LeTama | noellenchris: yes, saw that... No clue why sometimes it hangs modem |
| 20:07.40 | *** join/#htc-linux Daevoq (~IceChat7@host148-0-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:48.52 | *** join/#htc-linux apt (~apt@rikers.org) |
| 20:48.52 | *** topic/#htc-linux is Welcome to the HTC Linux project | Community portal & WiKi http://htc-linux.org | For IRC logs, HaRET & kernel mailing lists etc. see http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contact | The htc-linux.org project is not affiliated with the HTC Corporation | This channel is for development purposes - Join #htc-linux-chat for offtopic |
| 20:48.54 | tmzt | love it as non-phone haven't tried it as phone |
| 20:48.58 | tmzt | miss my arrow keys |
| 20:48.59 | tmzt | on kbd |
| 20:49.06 | [Delenn] | what about root? |
| 20:50.13 | tmzt | you mean is it working? no |
| 20:50.24 | tmzt | I haven't had a direct use for it yet though |
| 20:50.52 | [Delenn] | so it's not rooted yet? |
| 20:51.44 | [Delenn] | I read on some yellow site that there copy of system... and it's restored if crc wrong... is it right? |
| 20:51.51 | tmzt | yellow? |
| 20:51.53 | tmzt | no |
| 20:52.14 | tmzt | it prevents writes to the eMMC and caches them in ram using the built in kernel mechanism for doing that |
| 20:52.23 | tmzt | there's nothing even specific to G2 in the kernel for that stuff |
| 20:52.33 | tmzt | the mmc layer just doesn't care if writes fail |
| 20:52.44 | [Delenn] | hm... |
| 20:52.52 | [Delenn] | so no root? |
| 20:53.00 | fakker | yellow site? chinese? |
| 20:53.20 | [Delenn] | no... don't remember which... |
| 20:53.26 | [Delenn] | but there a lot of blablabla |
| 20:53.30 | [Delenn] | there copy of system |
| 20:53.33 | [Delenn] | and it's copied back |
| 20:53.40 | [Delenn] | if crc of os is diferent |
| 20:53.47 | [Delenn] | so it's self restore if os damaged |
| 20:53.51 | phh | g3rm: pushed |
| 20:55.01 | [Delenn] | emmc is funny... I heard htc hd7 have inside SD cardO_o |
| 20:55.08 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 20:55.10 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 20:55.11 | [Delenn] | it's also some kind of eMMC :P |
| 20:55.13 | gauner1986 | some stupid ms rule |
| 20:55.26 | gauner1986 | microsd slot maybe present, but not accessable by te user |
| 20:55.31 | gauner1986 | to have memory cheaper |
| 20:55.48 | [Delenn] | sd ofcourse more slow |
| 20:56.34 | [Delenn] | but 7230 / 8255 funny... wants it already but with WP7 |
| 20:58.02 | AstainW00T | gauner1986 you know why rule there? |
| 20:58.11 | AstainW00T | its cause os partition is striped accross the sd too |
| 20:58.21 | fakker | hd7 is cheap |
| 20:58.25 | gauner1986 | fail |
| 20:58.36 | [Delenn] | I don't think so |
| 20:58.45 | fakker | £380 here |
| 20:58.57 | [Delenn] | rule... because there some kind of internal data organization on sd |
| 20:59.17 | [Delenn] | so if user remove it and change something it may cause problems |
| 21:00.53 | gauner1986 | i don't like it |
| 21:01.06 | gauner1986 | i like to buy my own stuff |
| 21:01.15 | gauner1986 | maybe upgrade existing things |
| 21:01.25 | [Delenn] | u can disassemble hd7 |
| 21:01.27 | [Delenn] | and replace card |
| 21:01.32 | gauner1986 | great |
| 21:01.33 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 21:01.53 | [Delenn] | dunno I don't think it's so bad |
| 21:02.14 | [Delenn] | most ppl don't move card a lot of |
| 21:02.31 | [Delenn] | but ofcourse it's problem for android development :D |
| 21:03.35 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 21:03.36 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 21:03.51 | gauner1986 | i don't like restrictive policies anyway |
| 21:04.01 | gauner1986 | it's my phone and i want to do with it whatever i like |
| 21:04.11 | [Delenn] | yes |
| 21:04.13 | gauner1986 | even knowing that it may void warranty |
| 21:04.14 | [Delenn] | u still can... |
| 21:04.19 | gauner1986 | yeah.. but how |
| 21:04.22 | [Delenn] | open it and replace sd |
| 21:04.39 | *** join/#htc-linux Alex[sp3dev] (~alexander@91.209.218.3) |
| 21:04.40 | gauner1986 | i'm not able to do such things |
| 21:04.50 | [Delenn] | anyway ppl using iPhones by years and no problems |
| 21:04.57 | [Delenn] | so ur problem is definitely fake... :D |
| 21:05.13 | [Delenn] | and it's more funny |
| 21:05.25 | gauner1986 | they have other claims |
| 21:05.30 | [Delenn] | u need open it to replace sd... it's funny... |
| 21:05.35 | gauner1986 | i like to dev a lot |
| 21:05.36 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 21:05.44 | [Delenn] | if life is too easy, it's not intersting |
| 21:06.06 | *** part/#htc-linux wladston (~wladston@201.80.94.14) |
| 21:06.12 | *** join/#htc-linux Chalkster (~Chalkster@cpc1-ando4-0-0-cust799.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:06.12 | gauner1986 | i'm not the hardware guy.. and i dont have the hardware equipment |
| 21:06.15 | tmzt | haven't removed g2 card at all |
| 21:06.16 | gauner1986 | so i prefer to mod software |
| 21:06.17 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 21:06.25 | tmzt | just run ubuntu.img on it, don't even use it otherwise |
| 21:06.39 | [Delenn] | hm |
| 21:07.08 | [Delenn] | anyway wp7 is much better for me than android... |
| 21:07.30 | [Delenn] | because there something to hack / explore / improve, while android isn't |
| 21:07.56 | g3rm | phh: thx |
| 21:08.09 | [Delenn] | android is open source, it's makes things boring... |
| 21:08.10 | gauner1986 | hm.. i think android got a lot of potential for hacking |
| 21:08.15 | *** join/#htc-linux largeprime (~LargePrim@173-109-231-112.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 21:08.20 | [Delenn] | gau, it's not true hacking |
| 21:08.39 | gauner1986 | not all source is available |
| 21:08.47 | [Delenn] | it's called "port version A to version B, because version +0.01 have a lot of useless changes" |
| 21:09.03 | gauner1986 | and the major flaw in ms phone oses is.. nobody develops for it |
| 21:09.09 | gauner1986 | "nobody" |
| 21:09.32 | [Delenn] | while on WM: we have WM65 running on BlueAngel with WM50 kernel... binary compatible... |
| 21:10.02 | tmzt | because Microsoft doesn't use the arm isa properly |
| 21:10.10 | [Delenn] | arm isa? |
| 21:10.13 | tmzt | they still compile for armv4 until latest version |
| 21:10.16 | tmzt | instructuion set |
| 21:10.18 | tmzt | armv4t |
| 21:10.19 | [Delenn] | heh |
| 21:10.23 | [Delenn] | u really think it's bad? |
| 21:10.31 | tmzt | otherwise you wouldn't run wm6.5 on a pxa |
| 21:10.42 | [Delenn] | it's mostly ponts.. :) |
| 21:11.01 | [Delenn] | it doesn't give u 200% of speed |
| 21:11.07 | *** join/#htc-linux Necrosan (~necrosan@unaffiliated/necrosan) |
| 21:11.24 | [Delenn] | yes some new instructions, but on OS layer they are use-less |
| 21:11.38 | tmzt | faster strings |
| 21:11.45 | [Delenn] | how faster? 1%? haha |
| 21:11.57 | [Delenn] | better to lost 1% and save binary compatible of code |
| 21:12.16 | tmzt | better to have source and build for device :) |
| 21:12.21 | [Delenn] | ofcourse, in media programs this new instructions are nice |
| 21:12.24 | [Delenn] | this is also not good |
| 21:12.34 | [Delenn] | u need setup build env, build it, maybe fix errs |
| 21:12.38 | [Delenn] | binary don't need this |
| 21:12.40 | [Delenn] | :P |
| 21:13.02 | LeTama | well, I understand binary compatibility from 5.0 to 6.5, they didn't change anything (just kidding) |
| 21:13.06 | [Delenn] | most open source projects don't understand that users don't want fuck with compiling... they want use product |
| 21:13.14 | [Delenn] | just use... not fuck with it |
| 21:13.54 | [Delenn] | LeTama, there changes in kernel, but _external_ API is almost same :) it why it's working.... |
| 21:13.56 | AstainW00T | is an x10 worth buying? |
| 21:14.11 | [Delenn] | I heard x10 is well protected |
| 21:14.12 | LeTama | [Delenn]: I know, microsoft is strong at this |
| 21:14.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: most open source projects are found by geeks for experience, and then these geeks go to work and develop proprietary software which is sometimes opensourced |
| 21:14.47 | [Delenn] | Alex, true |
| 21:16.08 | LeTama | [Delenn]: however, they had time, experience and money for that. |
| 21:16.12 | [Delenn] | so OS compiled for ARMV7 isn't very different in performance with OS compiled for ARMV4 |
| 21:17.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: do you think it could be possible to patch out armv7 instructions of wce7 binaries? |
| 21:17.52 | [Delenn] | patch - no |
| 21:18.01 | *** join/#htc-linux swc|666 (~x00@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 21:18.06 | [Delenn] | some V7 instructions need 2 or more V4 |
| 21:18.17 | [Delenn] | but it's possible to emulate them |
| 21:18.54 | [Delenn] | via undefined instruction |
| 21:19.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | like, running a hypervisor and trapping unsupported opcodes? |
| 21:20.10 | [Delenn] | why hypervisor... just replace undef handler |
| 21:20.25 | [Delenn] | I did such things in CE kernel and it worked ;) |
| 21:21.09 | [Delenn] | u need load undef opcode, parse it |
| 21:21.13 | [Delenn] | extract operands |
| 21:21.18 | [Delenn] | and do manual actions |
| 21:21.30 | [Delenn] | as source u can use QEMU V7 emulation |
| 21:21.51 | [Delenn] | it's only one emulator which have half support of V7 :( |
| 21:23.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: what is ce7 (not wp7) minimum arm version? |
| 21:23.26 | *** join/#htc-linux Kasjopaja (~Tina@p57BC1798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:23.35 | *** join/#htc-linux angelox_123 (~Angelo@201-95-90-34.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 21:23.49 | [Delenn] | CE70 supports V5 V6 V7 (CTM preview at least) |
| 21:24.08 | [Delenn] | seems they dropped V4 support |
| 21:24.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: necrophilia time then |
| 21:24.57 | [Delenn] | wtf? :) |
| 21:24.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | some guy from 4pda wants to give me loox 720 to port android. why not ce7 then?) |
| 21:25.12 | [Delenn] | it's bad idea IMHO |
| 21:25.18 | [Delenn] | 128 ram not enough for android |
| 21:25.23 | [Delenn] | as well as PXA270 |
| 21:25.32 | [Delenn] | no 3D and etc |
| 21:25.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | android? yep, bad. but i want that pda. i'll be running ubuntu when android is done ;) |
| 21:25.45 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 21:25.47 | [Delenn] | so grab it :P |
| 21:25.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | of course |
| 21:26.15 | gauner1986 | what do you want with such an old device? |
| 21:26.20 | [Delenn] | ubuntu also may be slow? |
| 21:26.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | nah, pretty fast. pxa framebuffer is ultra fast compared to how fbdev works on msm |
| 21:26.58 | [Delenn] | on msm with mddi |
| 21:27.04 | [Delenn] | lcdc is same like on pxa |
| 21:27.18 | [Delenn] | direct render via dma without manual updates |
| 21:27.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway, pxa architecture is well known, so it may be a good device to test new stuffs. |
| 21:27.30 | [Delenn] | yeah... pxa is very friendly |
| 21:27.31 | [Delenn] | not like msm |
| 21:27.33 | [Delenn] | :D |
| 21:27.42 | gauner1986 | who developed pxa? |
| 21:27.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | intel did |
| 21:27.45 | [Delenn] | Intel |
| 21:27.50 | gauner1986 | ah |
| 21:27.58 | gauner1986 | i have an old dell lying around |
| 21:28.05 | gauner1986 | x35i or so |
| 21:28.11 | gauner1986 | it may have pxa |
| 21:28.13 | [Delenn] | pxa270 will be always in my heart :) |
| 21:28.20 | [Delenn] | err 272 |
| 21:29.02 | *** join/#htc-linux eugenb (~Adium@dslb-188-101-082-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:29.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | i will also need to add my jtag code to openocd. i am going to use my arduino (atmega328 board) to bitbang jtag. wonder how i can test given that my loox 520 boards are broken. guess i'll use my old omap730 phone |
| 21:29.47 | *** part/#htc-linux angelox_123 (~Angelo@201-95-90-34.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 21:29.48 | [Delenn] | but it seems not known how to flash 720, isn't it? |
| 21:30.17 | gauner1986 | [delenn] got a strange error for yaffs |
| 21:30.30 | gauner1986 | [delenn] http://pastebin.com/iqw6gYnV |
| 21:30.35 | gauner1986 | now everything is corrupted again |
| 21:30.38 | [Delenn] | show in the studio... err in chat ;) |
| 21:31.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: what do you mean by flash 720 unknown? |
| 21:31.04 | *** part/#htc-linux Alex[sp3dev] (~alexander@91.209.218.3) |
| 21:31.05 | *** join/#htc-linux Alex[sp3dev] (~alexander@91.209.218.3) |
| 21:31.33 | [Delenn] | are there roms or something like this... or ever boot mode? |
| 21:32.06 | [Delenn] | gau, look to yaffs_rename |
| 21:32.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: yes, there are. wm2003 upgrades. i think i'll use u-boot |
| 21:33.00 | [Delenn] | u want replace original boot? |
| 21:33.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: chainload it. like you do |
| 21:33.33 | [Delenn] | haha |
| 21:33.41 | [Delenn] | lol almost all supproted already |
| 21:33.42 | [Delenn] | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Loox700SeriesStatus |
| 21:33.43 | [Delenn] | :P |
| 21:34.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: yeah, but we need to port that to up-to-date kernel and fix android userspace. anyway, would you reject if someone offered you a pda as a present? |
| 21:35.33 | *** join/#htc-linux swc|666 (~x00@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 21:35.46 | [Delenn] | yeah, may reject... |
| 21:35.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | cause of being busy? |
| 21:36.04 | [Delenn] | yes with other hobby projects |
| 21:36.31 | [Delenn] | now I am working under leo and alphine |
| 21:36.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, what other stuff are you doing except wince? maybe some DSP or 3D? |
| 21:37.21 | [Delenn] | 3D no... but coded a bit on OpenGL |
| 21:37.25 | gauner1986 | [delenn] it's working ON btw :P |
| 21:37.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | aw yeah. everyone likes opengl |
| 21:38.02 | gauner1986 | i have a study course on opengl this semester |
| 21:38.03 | [Delenn] | DSP need special stuffs I think... I have not professional tools... like JTAG, RS232 and etc |
| 21:38.38 | *** join/#htc-linux g3rm (g3rm@chello089072100169.chello.pl) |
| 21:38.42 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen (~kiozen@rgnb-5d878755.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:38.54 | [Delenn] | I am rather bad in HW stuffs |
| 21:39.36 | [Delenn] | like add jtag wire to device... it's almost impossible mission for me :) |
| 21:40.03 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 21:40.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | i got interested in HW quite recently, especially because my friends are ham radio operators. too bad we study in different cities and have little free time. but i think it would be cool to have at least some experience in HW |
| 21:40.09 | gauner1986 | you need a steady hand |
| 21:40.33 | *** part/#htc-linux Pulser|BUSY (~pulser@villainrom.co.uk) |
| 21:41.30 | [Delenn] | yes steady |
| 21:41.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh, wce7 is 8 gbytes.. i think i will download it when i go home for the weekend |
| 21:41.46 | [Delenn] | 8 gb.. it's normal for now |
| 21:42.02 | [Delenn] | I am downloding films 2GB often |
| 21:42.08 | [Delenn] | ;) |
| 21:42.09 | gauner1986 | what? |
| 21:42.11 | gauner1986 | scandalous |
| 21:42.16 | [Delenn] | just four films :P |
| 21:42.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Delenn]: not with the kind of internets you have in the dormitory |
| 21:42.24 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 21:42.33 | gauner1986 | btw does russia use synchronization on films? |
| 21:42.43 | [Delenn] | synchronization? |
| 21:42.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think i'll need to buy wimax contract from yota or comstar |
| 21:42.46 | gauner1986 | or subtitles? |
| 21:42.57 | *** join/#htc-linux FsTluxe (~FsTluxe@82.176.11.11) |
| 21:43.04 | gauner1986 | dubbing artists |
| 21:43.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: syncronization. |
| 21:43.15 | [Delenn] | yes, special bears do it in the datacenters |
| 21:43.21 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 21:43.30 | gauner1986 | with the winxp default computer voice i guess |
| 21:43.31 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 21:43.36 | *** join/#htc-linux swc|666 (~x00@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 21:43.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | you have selected Microsoft Sam as the computer's default voice |
| 21:43.50 | [Delenn] | anyway |
| 21:43.54 | [Delenn] | few years ago |
| 21:44.08 | [Delenn] | I downloaded CE42 with 128kbytes/sec |
| 21:44.14 | [Delenn] | it takes few days I remember |
| 21:44.31 | gauner1986 | alex[sp3dev]: yeah.. had a lot of fun with it when i was younger :P |
| 21:45.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: like making it say rude words and make pranks on your friends via the telephone? |
| 21:45.22 | [Delenn] | but vista have new voice? |
| 21:45.26 | [Delenn] | Ann? |
| 21:45.34 | gauner1986 | Alex[sp3dev]: yes.. things like that :D |
| 21:45.58 | tmzt | Alex[sp3dev]: nlos out the window :) |
| 21:46.17 | *** join/#htc-linux pkirsche__ (~pkirsche@p5DF533AF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:46.24 | [Delenn] | haha |
| 21:46.30 | [Delenn] | seems everybody did this |
| 21:46.34 | [Delenn] | tmzt, u did this? :P |
| 21:46.44 | tmzt | no |
| 21:46.46 | tmzt | ? |
| 21:46.54 | [Delenn] | >> Alex[sp3dev]gauner1986: like making it say rude words and make pranks on your friends via the telephone? |
| 21:46.59 | tmzt | no |
| 21:47.05 | [Delenn] | heh |
| 21:47.10 | tmzt | watch Blank Check though |
| 21:47.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | tmzt: decipher your phrase, i didn't get it |
| 21:47.13 | tmzt | love that movie |
| 21:47.20 | tmzt | nlos is non line of site |
| 21:47.29 | tmzt | essentially fixed wireless |
| 21:47.53 | *** join/#htc-linux Kasjopaja (~Tina@p57BC1798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:48.25 | *** join/#htc-linux Kasjopaja (~Tina@p57BC1798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:51.26 | gauner1986 | [Delenn]: fix charging when off please :) |
| 21:51.41 | [Delenn] | when off? |
| 21:51.43 | [Delenn] | what u mean? |
| 21:52.52 | gauner1986 | if you turn the phone off |
| 21:53.00 | gauner1986 | it gets stuck in a "charging" state |
| 21:53.19 | gauner1986 | if you plug cable off then the amber light remains to blink |
| 21:54.54 | gauner1986 | rajko: you there? |
| 21:55.23 | gauner1986 | rajko: i tried the old yaffs driver again.. i'm somehow getting strange errors now... [ 10.020904] init: cannot execve('/system/bin/mediaserver'): Permission denied |
| 21:59.31 | Rajko | yes |
| 21:59.35 | Rajko | system must be RO |
| 21:59.39 | gauner1986 | ok |
| 21:59.40 | Rajko | if you want to use old yaffs driver |
| 21:59.50 | Rajko | also try without noatime nodiratime |
| 21:59.52 | [Delenn] | hey Rajko |
| 21:59.58 | Rajko | because official doesnt have hose (they speed shit up) |
| 22:00.11 | Rajko | [Delenn], playing super meat boy last level busy bye |
| 22:00.17 | [Delenn] | okay |
| 22:00.17 | gauner1986 | but why only system? |
| 22:00.18 | gauner1986 | oO |
| 22:00.25 | [Delenn] | is it difficult? |
| 22:00.25 | Rajko | binaries |
| 22:00.30 | Rajko | [Delenn], holy hell |
| 22:00.31 | fakker | Rajko, good game huh |
| 22:00.46 | gauner1986 | rajko: but data can be rw then? |
| 22:00.50 | gauner1986 | mounted the normal way? |
| 22:03.04 | *** join/#htc-linux bally3 (~bally3@cpc10-blbn8-2-0-cust86.10-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:03.51 | gauner1986 | rajko: hm.. still failing.. /system mounted ro |
| 22:03.58 | gauner1986 | i'm trying the other options |
| 22:04.54 | *** join/#htc-linux RaiderX (5b6e48b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.110.72.178) |
| 22:04.57 | RaiderX | hi |
| 22:06.17 | *** join/#htc-linux tekoholic (~quassel@63-231-67-192.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 22:06.45 | [Delenn] | gau, why it just can't work? |
| 22:06.57 | gauner1986 | dunno.. thought you are the magician |
| 22:06.58 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 22:09.33 | gauner1986 | still fails with the options you mentioned @ rajko |
| 22:09.37 | gauner1986 | same errors |
| 22:11.19 | *** part/#htc-linux [Delenn] (~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv) |
| 22:12.43 | *** join/#htc-linux RaiderX (5b6e48b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.110.72.178) |
| 22:12.48 | RaiderX | anybody here? |
| 22:13.48 | gauner1986 | at least my tar backup worked |
| 22:17.28 | *** join/#htc-linux MikeBanks (~michael@c-174-56-198-233.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 22:17.43 | gauner1986 | ok, maybe my corruption was caused by using a too recent yaffs driver this time |
| 22:17.55 | gauner1986 | back to rajko's one.. it's fine so far |
| 22:18.06 | fakker | super meat boy! |
| 22:19.14 | gauner1986 | an android game? |
| 22:19.21 | fakker | 360 |
| 22:19.25 | gauner1986 | ah |
| 22:19.35 | gauner1986 | don't have one |
| 22:20.19 | NujaWay | says *you have more*....ok ok i go =>[] |
| 22:20.46 | gauner1986 | ... what? |
| 22:20.47 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 22:20.55 | tmzt | gauner1986: can you git bisect that? |
| 22:21.09 | gauner1986 | tmzt: hm..? don't understand |
| 22:21.12 | tmzt | I'm sure somebody would like to know what's really happening and not this one works and that doesn't |
| 22:21.18 | tmzt | how close are the kernels |
| 22:21.22 | tmzt | and the yaffs2 drivers |
| 22:21.53 | gauner1986 | tmzt: dunno the revision rajko used in our git.. |
| 22:22.11 | gauner1986 | i used latest yaffs2 head |
| 22:22.19 | gauner1986 | checked out today |
| 22:22.29 | tmzt | okay |
| 22:22.34 | tmzt | his works and HEAD doesn't? |
| 22:22.37 | *** join/#htc-linux niko-nojo (~noel@212.183.140.5) |
| 22:22.53 | tmzt | try bisecting a few commits or see what in git log -p is likely to have broke it |
| 22:22.55 | gauner1986 | dunno if it fully works.. it works for now.. and i don't have the issue i pastebined above |
| 22:22.58 | tmzt | that's a pretty serious issue |
| 22:23.36 | tmzt | where's the pastbin? |
| 22:23.51 | gauner1986 | http://pastebin.com/iqw6gYnV |
| 22:23.53 | gauner1986 | this one |
| 22:24.41 | NujaWay | 23:19 <gauner1986> don't have one <= you have two or more :D xD |
| 22:25.19 | tmzt | git blame that line |
| 22:25.25 | RaiderX | does gsensor freeze happen on nand still or is that only happening when using haret? |
| 22:25.28 | *** part/#htc-linux niko-nojo (~noel@212.183.140.5) |
| 22:26.04 | gauner1986 | nujaway: haha :P |
| 22:26.22 | gauner1986 | i'm not rich enough yet |
| 22:26.54 | gauner1986 | i need some sleep now |
| 22:27.23 | gauner1986 | goodnight guys |
| 22:28.01 | NujaWay | nn |
| 22:28.10 | *** join/#htc-linux Ashar (deadly@unaffiliated/ashar) |
| 22:28.18 | NujaWay | maybe u know someone rich enough :p |
| 22:44.58 | *** join/#htc-linux TheDeadCPU (~TheDeadCP@89-162-46-133.insignal.net) |
| 22:48.17 | *** join/#htc-linux gauner1986_HD2 (~gauner198@p508C6A18.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:55.07 | *** join/#htc-linux mes (~mes@S0106000c417884fe.cc.shawcable.net) |
| 22:58.22 | *** join/#htc-linux Echo31 (~olivier@mir31-4-82-240-194-54.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:06.05 | *** join/#htc-linux heh_ (47e78418@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.231.132.24) |
| 23:06.51 | heh_ | LeTama: Does your ppp fix only works on eve kernel? |
| 23:07.04 | heh_ | coz i tried it on n1 kernel and it was not working |
| 23:07.06 | heh_ | no data |
| 23:07.07 | RaiderX | it should work on both |
| 23:07.45 | heh_ | I get the 3g sign but no connection |
| 23:08.35 | RaiderX | did you update the init.rc? |
| 23:09.17 | heh_ | i did not |
| 23:09.27 | heh_ | is there something have to be added? |
| 23:09.34 | RaiderX | u need to add the service to run the script |
| 23:09.40 | heh_ | let me check latema's thread |
| 23:10.22 | *** join/#htc-linux RaiderX303 (~AndChat@91.110.72.178) |
| 23:11.20 | heh_ | yea, latema did not mention any init.rc lines |
| 23:12.55 | RaiderX303 | Did ya try using an evo kernel, if ur using ppp the evo kernel is better |
| 23:13.17 | RaiderX303 | I'm on an evo kernel and ain't had one drop all day |
| 23:14.16 | heh_ | yea |
| 23:14.22 | heh_ | i figured it wont work on n1 kernel |
| 23:14.26 | heh_ | let me try evo |
| 23:16.13 | heh_ | worked on n1 kernel after adding the line |
| 23:16.16 | heh_ | thanks raider |
| 23:24.08 | *** join/#htc-linux miknix (~miknix@gentoo/developer/miknix) |
| 23:25.29 | *** join/#htc-linux Cass (~Cass@188-220-34-222.zone11.bethere.co.uk) |
| 23:25.45 | LeTama | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.54 | LeTama | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.39 | *** join/#htc-linux kroukes2000 (2961d412@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.97.212.18) |
| 23:30.25 | Cass | hi LeTama |
| 23:30.32 | LeTama | hi Cass |
| 23:30.35 | Cass | changes not in git for wrapper ? |
| 23:30.57 | LeTama | no, don't have access and it causes problems for some |
| 23:31.20 | Cass | ok .. i just installed it so ill see how it goes for me |
| 23:31.46 | LeTama | be careful, if it crashes, it crashes very early |
| 23:32.02 | Cass | it crashes stuff ? |
| 23:32.29 | LeTama | modem crash early during boot |
| 23:32.34 | LeTama | without adb access to fix it |
| 23:32.40 | Cass | ewww |
| 23:32.43 | LeTama | yes |
| 23:32.44 | Cass | how come |
| 23:32.52 | Cass | thought it just monitored |
| 23:32.54 | LeTama | no idea, couldn't get a log |
| 23:33.55 | LeTama | it does also the ATD |
| 23:34.11 | Cass | yeah i suspected that |
| 23:34.27 | Cass | you wait 10 secs from the pppd death and the restart of it > |
| 23:34.28 | Cass | ? |
| 23:34.40 | Cass | i notice sometimes we get issues if we dont sleep for a bit |
| 23:35.23 | LeTama | I have a few waits, but I restart 2 seconds after pppd death |
| 23:35.34 | Cass | ok |
| 23:35.48 | noellenchris | I can't get this one to crash, well I guess I'm lucky this time...:) |
| 23:36.36 | Cass | i noticed when i was playing if you go through the band switch and you lose cell coverage if you run ATD too soon you never get data or cell back until ril is restarted |
| 23:36.58 | Cass | 10 secs for me seemed the sweet spot |
| 23:37.47 | noellenchris | LeTama, do you have any changes planned for wrapper? |
| 23:39.52 | LeTama | noellenchris: well, I need to figure out what cause the crashes for all these guys, and it's not 100% bulletproof too |
| 23:41.14 | Cass | they need to have andlog installed and the ramconsole stuff defined to get any logs |
| 23:41.21 | Cass | logcat wont help with arm9 crash |
| 23:41.33 | *** join/#htc-linux vegaman (~vegaman@ip202-27-209-226.kc.net.nz) |
| 23:41.43 | noellenchris | cass is andlog on market? |
| 23:42.01 | LeTama | Cass: yes, and even with that, as reboot fills up the log, it won't do much |
| 23:42.16 | Cass | k |
| 23:42.21 | noellenchris | I have alogcat, I'll check out andlog |
| 23:42.24 | Cass | noellenchris, no its cotulla tool |
| 23:42.44 | noellenchris | ohh...ok |
| 23:42.47 | Cass | it creates a file from ramconsole on next boot in winmo |
| 23:42.51 | noellenchris | from wm you pull right |
| 23:42.54 | Cass | its dmesg effectivly dumps ram |
| 23:43.04 | Cass | crash > winmo > andlog > dmesg |
| 23:43.15 | noellenchris | forgot about that... |
| 23:43.17 | noellenchris | thx |
| 23:44.06 | noellenchris | I havent' been able to crash this one yet, maybe tomorrow since I'll be at work and no access to a computer to fix....lol |
| 23:44.29 | LeTama | Cass: I'll push a change to remove the reboot on crash tomorrow, it doesn't really work and we can't see anything when it happens |
| 23:44.49 | Cass | ok .. |
| 23:44.57 | Cass | i have no data with wrapper |
| 23:45.09 | Cass | and i also see the ATD issue i describe |
| 23:45.23 | Cass | no cell return when pppd is started too soon |
| 23:46.02 | LeTama | Cass: ok. We need to find the right trigger to respawn pppd at the proper time |
| 23:46.45 | tmzt | just put ppp in the wrapper :) |
| 23:47.38 | LeTama | tmtz: won't help I'm afraid :) |
| 23:47.38 | Cass | letama do you have the diff handy for this patch ? |
| 23:48.55 | Cass | working nice now |
| 23:49.08 | Cass | needed ril restart |
| 23:49.09 | noellenchris | cass did u wait and toggle apn |
| 23:49.15 | Cass | for ? |
| 23:49.20 | noellenchris | how did u restart ril |
| 23:49.27 | Cass | stop ril-daemon |
| 23:49.30 | Cass | start ril-daemon |
| 23:49.36 | noellenchris | in term |
| 23:49.38 | Cass | yes |
| 23:49.42 | noellenchris | cool |
| 23:49.52 | Cass | airplaine mode would do the same |
| 23:50.02 | Cass | as would apn id guess |
| 23:50.07 | LeTama | no, not exactly |
| 23:50.10 | Cass | maybe not |
| 23:50.15 | LeTama | airplane doesn't kill ril |
| 23:50.16 | noellenchris | my scratch paper has so much stuff written down, I'll never find anything I need.....:P |
| 23:50.23 | Cass | LeTama, ok |
| 23:50.25 | LeTama | stop/start is required |
| 23:51.26 | noellenchris | yes, i had issues in past toggling apn off/on.....didn't always work....I like new method in term.....now to wait for crash...lol |
| 23:52.01 | LeTama | Cass: diff : http://home.lestamas.fr:8080/ril_0.2.zip |
| 23:52.12 | Cass | thanks .. i want to play with this |
| 23:52.37 | LeTama | good! |
| 23:52.38 | *** join/#htc-linux mickey|spazieren (~mickey@80.81.242.146) |
| 23:53.50 | LeTama | got to run, later guys |
| 23:53.57 | noellenchris | cya |
| 23:54.03 | noellenchris | thx too |
| 23:54.08 | Cass | later ! |
| 23:54.59 | *** join/#htc-linux mitsutaka (~mitsutaka@rt.miraclelinux.com) |
| 23:55.59 | Cass | damn patch fails to apply |
| 23:56.17 | Cass | fresh pull of lig i guess |
| 23:58.35 | Cass | nope on clean head patch fails .. |
| 23:59.04 | *** join/#htc-linux nineX_ (~nunya@75-132-13-29.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |