IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100903

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00:06.06camrojonpry ..i bild a system.img without JIT ...and tested again ...
00:06.07camrohttp://pastebin.com/hY14t2eb
00:06.30camrothe crash is not so extreme like it was before, but also something wrong ...
00:07.20camroas you can see, the service manager also begin to kill some services
00:07.52camroso, the VOL UP bug is still there - but it was more compilcated to generate it :)
00:10.57camrojonpry: better look here ...
00:10.58camrohttp://pastebin.com/FRagBJhw
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00:11.52uriahheepcamro: just so you know, jonpry left :)
00:12.25camroah ok, thanks
00:12.32camrohe will see it in log :)
00:14.16camroand the info is also good for stinebd :)
00:14.32camrothat they know the JIT is not alone the problem
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00:26.37camrostinebd: still here ?
00:27.12cooperuptioni have an htc s640 and running haret causes a "Haret is not running in 'system' mode. Major functionality will not be present" error
00:27.13camrostinebd: maybe can you update the wiki - how to build rootfs ?
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00:28.16tmzt_cooperuption: hold on, there's a irc channel for ompa850 devices
00:28.21tmzt_do you know the codename?
00:28.38tmzt_#winglinux
00:28.49tmzt_sorry
00:29.05tmzt_#wing-linux
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00:29.17tmzt_talk to darkstar
00:30.16cooperuptionoh.. the s640 is a msm7500 processor
00:30.40tmzt_ok
00:30.45tmzt_that's the weird one
00:30.50tmzt_it's still smartphone?
00:31.00tmzt_you need the MS security tool or xda unlocker cab
00:31.45cooperuptionyeah its a phone that came out on the canadian provider telus only
00:32.10cooperuptionits a cdma phone... will those tools work on it?
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00:35.19tmzt_is it running smartphone os?
00:35.23tmzt_I've only seen that error on there
00:36.20cooperuptionits running windows mobile 6.1 standard version (non-touch)
00:36.29tmzt_okay
00:36.34tmzt_then you need xda unlock
00:36.37tmzt_then haret should work
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00:37.45cooperuptionoki i'll try xda unlock
00:37.49cooperuptionthanks
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01:10.04uriahheepdoes anyone have a version of playwav2.c with stdin/stdout support?
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01:26.50ali1234uriahheep: playwav2 -play /dev/stdin
01:27.43uriahheepali1234: oh really? nice. thanks
01:27.51uriahheepali1234: this way i can just pipe, right?
01:27.56ali1234in theory yes
01:28.15ali1234the wav files needs a header though, so it might not work
01:28.43uriahheepk, we'll see :P
01:30.07uriahheepali1234: oh... i'll need to mknod /dev/stdin first, right?
01:30.25ali1234yeah
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01:37.10stinebdcamro: for building rootfs, see the scripts directory
01:37.37camroah, ok ... i only thought to other users ...
01:37.52camrothanks for info
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01:41.27uriahheepali1234: if i just cat a wav file into it should it work, if said wav file has headers?
01:42.18tmzt_doesn't au work?
01:44.54uriahheeptmzt_: i'm trying to make playwav2 play something from stdin... but wav works anyway, so i'll stick with that for now
01:53.28uriahheepali1234: do you know how to select a different endpoint? like, make the sound come out of handset instead of speaker?
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01:59.20ali1234uriahheep: no
02:07.17camrogn8
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02:12.05jonprywozzer: yo
02:12.13WoZZeRyo
02:12.23jonprypower went out
02:12.25jonprybattery died
02:12.27WoZZeRthat sucks
02:12.42jonpryseems to be back on fttb
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02:15.23jonpryi don't remember what we working on
02:15.35WoZZeRincall volume and speakerphone
02:16.23jonpryoh yeah. so this is freaking weird stuff
02:16.33jonprydid you try to change the volume for that dmesg you sent?
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02:17.45jonpryi'm guessing you did, as you said volume didn't work
02:17.56WoZZeRyeah
02:18.01WoZZeRI tried all the way down and back up
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02:22.45uriahheepjonpry: have you ever tried using playwav2.c with stdin/stdout?
02:24.08jonpryno
02:24.29jonpryis it working for you?
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02:27.34jonpryalright woz. incall volume here we go
02:30.25jonprywozzer: http://pastebin.com/nUA7gQQU + 1 more
02:30.56uriahheepjonpry: nope, it isn't
02:31.08jonpryhttp://pastebin.com/qz2jA5mG qdsp5/snd.c
02:31.19jonpryuriahheep: why not?
02:31.49uriahheepjonpry: dunno, tried cat /sdcard/test.wav | playwav -play /dev/stdin
02:32.17jonpryi think it can only play a certain file. has to be /data/out.wav
02:32.34uriahheepoh wait
02:32.36uriahheepit did work lol
02:33.08uriahheepjonpry: nah, that's just what it uses when you don't specify a file ;)
02:33.17jonpryoh
02:34.50jonpryplayed through earpiece?
02:36.43uriahheepjonpry: nope, through handset
02:39.00WoZZeRjonpry: no incall change
02:39.41jonprywozzer: i just tested on a haret. no incall mic
02:39.47jonprycan you get a dmesg?
02:41.44WoZZeRhttp://pastebin.com/PiDVSm9Y
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02:43.15jonpryyou had in call mic? did you need echo?
02:43.24WoZZeRI'll test mic
02:43.32WoZZeRI have not needed echo in a while
02:46.49WoZZeRjonpry: mic still works
02:47.52jonprythas good
02:53.44uriahheepdoes anyone know whether playwav2.c can play raw pcm?
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02:59.53jonpryyou could use sox to convert a pipe of pcm into a pipe of wav
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03:24.02jonprywozzer. what should i do if i have like 10 different files for you?
03:24.18WoZZeRzip them up and send them over media fire I guess
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03:31.03jonprywozzer: yo its ready
03:31.34WoZZeRok
03:31.49jonpryyou get the dcc?
03:31.55WoZZeRno, try again
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03:32.06WoZZeRwait
03:32.08WoZZeRlemme look
03:32.27WoZZeRgot it
03:32.59jonpryput snd_state.h in qdsp5. everything else where is
03:33.49jonpryno idea what this will do. but it is at least close to the final solution for speakerphone
03:36.24WoZZeRso am I testing everything audio related then?
03:36.31WoZZeRincall sound, speakerphone
03:36.37WoZZeRmake sure nothing audio broke
03:36.52jonpryyeah. volume should work too
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03:42.21jonpryseems to be working on haret as well. the only thing that is different right now is acoustic. can't commit acoustic to htc-msm-2.6.27 because it will break raph/diam/etc
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03:42.39WoZZeRseems to work well
03:42.44WoZZeRincall volume did change
03:42.48WoZZeRalthough not a whole lot
03:42.53WoZZeRspeakerphone seemed fine
03:43.00WoZZeRvoice search worked after a call
03:43.05WoZZeRtesting another call now
03:43.11jonpryand annoying buzzing out of speaker?
03:43.31WoZZeRno!
03:45.21WoZZeRjonpry: is it stuff you can easy do with machine_is?
03:45.24hyperfire21nice speakerphone working?
03:45.28WoZZeRyeah
03:46.13WoZZeRjonpry: any ideas about data? don't gsm return 6125 now as well?
03:46.28WoZZeRit'll be easy for you to test since you are gsm, right?
03:46.44jonpryyeah we could make it not break other phones. we could probably even make it work for other nanded phones.
03:46.48jonprydata is broke?
03:46.57jonprybecause of your cdma detection?
03:47.02WoZZeRjonpry: not broke, but I was thinkging my amss detection method won't work
03:47.07WoZZeRsince you return 6125
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03:47.26jonpryi thought it was radio version. cdma had - in the radio version or something
03:47.44WoZZeRhmm
03:47.48WoZZeRtrying to think how to test it
03:47.51jonpryhey pohket: we integrated it, and it works great
03:50.02hyperfire21wozz did u get sound working in that sense build after robot sound?
03:50.17WoZZeRhyperfire21: I have not tried that sense build again
03:50.21WoZZeRI can in a bit though
03:50.27hyperfire21ok
03:50.37jonprywozzer: in htc_hw, radio_show(struct class *class, char *buf)
03:50.45WoZZeRjonpry: can you get the full amss string?
03:50.50jonprythat looks like your detector is not in there. and RIL uses that string
03:51.07WoZZeRyeah, it was in it, but your new versions did not have it
03:53.17WoZZeR*(unsigned int *) (amss_dump + 0x10) = readl(MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE + 0xfc030 + 0x10);
03:53.17WoZZeRprintk(KERN_INFO "amss_dump string: %s", amss_dump);
03:53.18WoZZeRamss_dump[19] = '\0';
03:53.26WoZZeRI added that, and I'm going to check my dmesg
03:53.35WoZZeRdot1 = strchr(amss_dump, '.');
03:53.43WoZZeRthat's what determines if it's cdma or gsm
03:54.48WoZZeRjonpry: you probably know of a way to get it without looking at a dmesg
04:00.38WoZZeRjonpry: my amss_dump is DSDCANPZM-6125
04:00.41WoZZeRwhat is yours
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04:02.11jonpryhave to reboot
04:02.17WoZZeRcool
04:02.37WoZZeRwhat do you think is the easiest for keyboard. just having it read from a file on the sd card?
04:03.10WoZZeRhave a keyboard.txt, where you put the model?
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04:05.34jonpryyour looking at fc030?
04:05.54WoZZeRthe whole 20 chars
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04:06.21jonpryradio ver is at fc020
04:06.24WoZZeRMSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE + 0xfc030 + 0x0 to 0x10
04:06.49WoZZeRI'm using the pre-existing code
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04:06.59bmnbmncongrats on the progress guys
04:07.07bmnbmnPohket: way to be the hero once again
04:10.01hyperfire21he fixed mic/sound?
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04:16.38hyperfire21yea definately great work guys
04:16.52hyperfire21tp2 droid is blowing up!
04:16.59WoZZeRonce I get a value back from jonpy, I'll release some builds
04:17.07mariooliveirahi any solutions  to use linux on my p3300
04:17.30mariooliveiraor by using haret or qemu
04:17.32hyperfire21nice been waiting to try it
04:18.18jonpryas soon as my wifi connects...
04:18.28WoZZeRonce acl is back from vacation, we're hopeing to get usb finished
04:18.33WoZZeRwhich will be data and charging
04:18.57hyperfire21cool
04:19.10WoZZeRI also want to try to release 1 nbh
04:19.15WoZZeRso I'm thinking of fixes for keyboards
04:19.18hyperfire21did wistilt2 mention his progress on lights?
04:19.35bmnbmnone nbh for all rhodiums would be nice
04:19.41WoZZeRlast I heard he was getting angry at the lights
04:19.59bmnbmnthere are four etc etc
04:20.27hyperfire21is that possible wozz to combine them?
04:20.54jonpry01ffc020 | 36342e33 2e35322e 00003831 00000000 | 3.46.25.18......
04:20.55jonpry01ffc030 | 332e3136 322e7430 36322e35 00000055 | 61.30t.25.26U...
04:21.09hyperfire21whats wrong with the keyboards?
04:22.08jonprycan't detect them or something
04:22.16WoZZeRjonpry: I think that will work then
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04:22.17jonpryalthough that is probably not true
04:22.40jonpryi have 01ffc070 | 4f4d2d54 30313042 00000000 00000000 | T-MOB010........
04:22.52WoZZeRhmmm
04:22.59jonpryeven though i have CID unlocked, with non tmobile radio
04:23.11jonprynon tmobile rom
04:23.24jonprynon tmobile sim
04:23.30WoZZeRhmmmm
04:23.45WoZZeRis that something that should be in the kernel anyway?
04:24.18jonprythere should be a /proc or sys device that gives platform specific information to userland
04:24.34jonpryit isn't the kernels job to make every piece of available information unavailable
04:24.44WoZZeRso we just need to update rootfs?
04:24.53jonpryyeah
04:27.29jonpryi think CID will tell you the phone model
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04:28.25WoZZeRjonpry: http://pastebin.com/4dtE8FP8
04:28.29WoZZeRdoes that code look right?
04:28.32WoZZeRI added some rhod protection
04:29.38WoZZeRwhoops, htcrhodium
04:31.41jonpryi think it should be amss_dump[16] = 0;
04:32.04WoZZeRok
04:32.07jonpryor not
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04:32.22WoZZeRdidn't crash or anything
04:32.28WoZZeRbooting android now to test
04:32.43WoZZeRso you think there should be CID somewhere, that has model id?
04:33.49WoZZeRwhy do no one else use that?
04:34.18bmnbmnsounds like you could use that for both keyboard and cdma/gsm detection
04:34.40jonpryCID is fc070
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04:37.03WoZZeRis there a reason no one used it before?
04:38.29jonpryneed a table of CID's for all the people that sold rhodium?
04:39.49bmnbmncant be that many
04:40.48jonprylol. acl give you a hard time with git
04:41.26WoZZeR??
04:41.27jonprywozzer did you try pcbxc?
04:41.39WoZZeRno, I have not tried anything
04:42.16jonpry0x081030 0x4
04:42.43WoZZeRjonpry: where did he give me a hard time?
04:43.06jonpryAdd usb_phy_shutdown. Re-enable usb with raph values after wozzers butchering :-p
04:43.13WoZZeRoh, yeah
04:43.14WoZZeRlol
04:43.19WoZZeRit wasn't a butchering
04:43.36WoZZeRI had a reason for the values. it took me a few minutes to figure out where they came from though
04:43.53jonpryi have pcbxc = ff000480
04:43.59jonpryanyone else have haret?
04:45.45jonpry00081060 | 55aaaa55 58899885 00480052 0044004f | U..U...XR.H.O.D.
04:45.45jonpry00081070 | 00310032 00300030 00000030 00000000 | 2.1.0.0.0.......
04:45.47jonprylol
04:45.50jonpryunicode
04:45.53WoZZeRohhh
04:45.54WoZZeRnice
04:46.12WoZZeRgrrrr, now I have to flash windows
04:46.38jonpryno more searching for dashes i guess
04:46.41bmnbmngot haret
04:47.02WoZZeRjonpry: no, I still need that, it's easier to have a general search instead of 14 cases
04:47.16WoZZeRfor cdma
04:47.20jonpryyou mean rhodvers > 210?
04:47.53WoZZeRwell, if I can pull rhod210, then keyboard will be easy
04:48.01WoZZeRjust gotta stick it in cmdline
04:48.25jonprywe could work that out
04:48.39WoZZeRflashing windows right now
04:48.54WoZZeRatt should come out to be tilt2
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04:49.26jonprythere are languages too
04:49.30bmnbmnjonpry: want me to run anything on my rhod400?
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04:49.44jonpryyeah pd 0x81000 0x100
04:52.57jonprywozzer: pohket says that second voice search after call is not working
04:53.22WoZZeRI'll have to test it after I get that p value
04:53.26WoZZeRI'll re flash back
04:53.30jonpryyeah no rush
04:54.03jonpryso what up with usb?
04:54.17jonpryi have never gotten usb anything to work under haret
04:54.30WoZZeRno one has
04:54.33WoZZeRfor topaz/rhod
04:54.42jonpryoh. so its not just a nand problem
04:54.43bmnbmn00081060 | 55aaaa55 58899885 00480052 0044004f | U..U...XR.H.O.D.
04:54.44bmnbmnoops
04:54.46alexkreuzcan i ask you guys a question
04:54.50WoZZeRyeah
04:54.52bmnbmn00081070 | 00300034 00300030 00000030 ffffffff | 4.0.0.0.0.......
04:54.57alexkreuzi compiled the kernel for the first time earlier today
04:55.00alexkreuzfor the hd2 leo
04:55.02bmnbmnjonpry: , hows that for you?
04:55.06jonprythats good
04:55.08jonprythanks
04:55.09alexkreuzand though it seemed to compile fine and worked well
04:55.13alexkreuzthe wifi shows "error"
04:55.16alexkreuzand i can't start it up
04:55.20alexkreuzi didn't make any changes to the source
04:55.32alexkreuzis that supposed to happen?
04:55.35jonpryi dunno if anybody here right now has a leo
04:56.20jonpryon rhod wifi is a module and has to be compiled separately and put somewhere special
04:56.32alexkreuzhmm
04:56.39alexkreuzi should ask one of the leo modders
04:56.41alexkreuzthey might know more
04:56.59WoZZeR00081060 | 4d524f46 58899885 00480052 0044004f | FORM...XR.H.O.D.
04:56.59WoZZeR00081070 | 00300035 00300030 00000030 ffffffff | 5.0.0.0.0.......
04:57.10WoZZeRneed someone with a tilt2 now
04:57.21bmnbmnFORM?
04:57.23jonpryyou can see if your wifi is a module by running a make modules, as opposed to zImage. if it builds some stuff that looks like your wifi....
04:57.36alexkreuzhmm
04:57.38alexkreuzill try that
04:59.05jonprywozzer: i wonder if that string is there on a nand boot
04:59.54bmnbmnwould it be in the same location?
05:00.07jonpryi would hope so
05:00.30WoZZeRhow would I test
05:00.33WoZZeRwhat's the base?
05:01.00WoZZeRor something I can check when I'm already in android?
05:01.16jonpryi don't know how you would read it actually
05:01.38jonprymight need to setup iomem
05:02.44WoZZeRjonpry: testing voice now
05:03.11WoZZeRworks fine for me
05:03.25WoZZeRvoice, call, voice voice
05:04.10alexkreuzyea its building modules
05:04.20alexkreuzdrivers/net, etc.
05:06.19jonprywozzer: that address is in spl
05:06.44jonpryreading it could get interesting
05:07.45WoZZeRlol
05:07.56jonpryi can try reading it in rhobuntu. then make some kernel code for you. is the goal to try and put it in tinboot?
05:09.18WoZZeRfor you nand fiends: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=131590
05:09.25WoZZeRjonpry: yeah
05:09.30WoZZeRbut it can be in kernel or in initrd.gz
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05:10.09WoZZeRif we want to keep the kernel close, so it can be merged at some point
05:10.12jonpryinitrd is potentially a pain because of build system
05:10.16WoZZeRinitrd.gz would probably be better
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05:11.02WoZZeRit may be easiest to just create a keyboard.txt file
05:11.44bmnbmnthanks woz
05:11.50alexkreuzmake ARCH=arm INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/mountpoint/of/your/rootfilesystem modules_install
05:11.57drellisdeehas anyone on here overclocked a msm7627?
05:11.58alexkreuzwhats the mountpoint of my rootfilesystem?
05:12.05WoZZeRjonpry: need to pass out soon and get my body on a regular schedule
05:12.22jonpryi see. what is a keyboard.txt?
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05:12.41WoZZeRit's a text file
05:12.45WoZZeRwhere you put tilt2
05:12.47WoZZeRor rhod500
05:12.49jonpryi got that much :-)
05:12.59WoZZeRit's not elegant
05:13.06WoZZeRbut it's easy, and doesn't touch the kernel
05:13.10WoZZeRcan be done in initrd
05:13.26jonprynothing wrong with touching kernel :)
05:13.33bmnbmnplease touch
05:13.49WoZZeRit has to create a value that can be read by bash
05:13.58WoZZeRsince all the keyboard stuff is done in rootfs
05:13.59hyperfire21please feel it up :)
05:14.36jonpryso we make a /sys/class/machine_variant/name
05:14.46WoZZeRthat might work
05:14.53jonprywhich is just a file, and you can read it, and it says rhod210 or what not
05:16.35WoZZeRthat would be easy
05:16.53WoZZeRwould it be easier to move the rootfs keyboard code to initrd then?
05:17.31WoZZeRput it after switch_root
05:18.12WoZZeRcrap, might need to make a new rootfs then
05:18.23jonpryyeah, not touching it would be better
05:18.29bmnbmnwouldnt that benefit haret and nand though?
05:18.36WoZZeRhmmm, automatically adding it to /proc/cmdline?
05:19.29jonprydon't really want to fake the command line.
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05:19.54WoZZeRthen there's no other way
05:19.57WoZZeRrootfs has an else
05:20.25WoZZeRsed -i -e "s:$: physkeyboard=${model}:" /tmp/cmdline
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05:21.04WoZZeRmodel=$(cat /blah/name)
05:21.04WoZZeRcp /proc/cmdline /tmp/cmdline
05:21.05WoZZeRsed -i -e "s:$: physkeyboard=${model}:" /tmp/cmdline
05:21.05WoZZeRmount --bind /tmp/cmdline /proc/cmdline
05:22.44jonpryi'm not really understanding
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05:23.06WoZZeRit just adds physkeyboard=rhod500 to the end of it
05:23.21WoZZeRsince I don't think you can edit cmdline directly
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05:23.33jonprythat is already in rootfs?
05:23.38WoZZeRyeah
05:23.43WoZZeRbut it's done for serial number
05:23.49WoZZeRSERIALNO=$(cat /data/serialno)
05:23.50WoZZeRcp /proc/cmdline /tmp/cmdline
05:23.50WoZZeRsed -i -e "s:$: androidboot.serialno=${SERIALNO}:" /tmp/cmdline
05:23.50WoZZeRmount --bind /tmp/cmdline /proc/cmdline
05:24.02WoZZeRI would be adding it to the end of initrd.gz
05:24.06WoZZeRafter it switchs root
05:24.46jonpryi don't think you can mount --bind /tmp/cmdline /proc/cmdline twice
05:25.09jonprybut maybe
05:28.50WoZZeRhmmm
05:29.01WoZZeRall it would do is error, right?
05:29.18jonpryyeah
05:29.20WoZZeRthe second one doesn't have to be sucussful
05:29.26WoZZeRsince it's already bound
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05:38.54WoZZeRjonpry: do you need a list of the rhods?
05:42.53jonpryi dunno
05:42.56WoZZeRjonpry: http://pastebin.com/NE0Fy44N these are the values it needs to return
05:42.59jonpryi wrote some code
05:43.15jonprydunno what it will do
05:43.16WoZZeRthere may be a rhod800 as well I think
05:43.20WoZZeRlol
05:44.06jonpryi'm guessing the language is not in this same spl region
05:44.38WoZZeRhhmm
05:45.00jonprywant the code?
05:45.11WoZZeRsure, I'd like to take a look at it
05:45.15WoZZeRbut I'm going to pass out soon
05:45.51jonpryhttp://pastebin.com/RDisf3N8
05:45.59jonpryi botched your cdma thing again
05:46.05WoZZeRlol
05:46.30jonpryhttp://pastebin.com/s6iLfwEX
05:46.54jonpryhttp://pastebin.com/mXtQErre
05:47.32jonpryit boots whatever it is
05:47.41WoZZeRlol
05:47.55WoZZeRI'll try them out tomorrow
05:48.02jonpryk
05:48.10WoZZeRseperate nbh's isn't THAT big a deal
05:48.15WoZZeRbut it would be nice to cut it down
05:48.25bmnbmnhey a new xdandroid build, yay
05:48.31WoZZeRreally?
05:48.44jonpryuntil you make a new script that builds them all and posts them on your thread
05:48.48bmnbmnhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692
05:49.21WoZZeRjonpry: lol, that would be the ultimate in lazyness. But I want other people to create this stuff in the future
05:49.52jonpryit works
05:50.01jonprycat /sys/class/htc_hw/machine_variant
05:50.01jonpryRHOD21000
05:50.06WoZZeRnice
05:50.16bmnbmnWouldn't the detection for the keyboard work as a (better?) solution for radio detection as well?
05:50.25WoZZeRbmnbmn: no
05:51.37jonpryi'm tempted to not put anything to massage the RHOD21000 into rhod210 in the driver
05:51.44jonprymaybe should be done in initrd
05:52.07WoZZeRjonpry: all we have to do is change it to an if
05:52.30jonpryshould be easy
05:52.36WoZZeRmodel=$(cat /sys/blah)
05:52.41WoZZeRif model = xxxx
05:52.54WoZZeRso it would have an if for each
05:54.11jonprywhat did they change in new system?
05:54.20jonprymaybe fixed that nasty jit bug
05:54.30WoZZeRI don't know what git to check for changes
05:54.48jonpryme neither
05:55.28bmnbmnmaybe babijoee will enlighten us
05:56.11babijoee?
05:56.49bmnbmnbabijoee: jonpry asked whats changed in the new system
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05:59.04jonpryoh well. i'm out
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05:59.17WoZZeRlater
05:59.22bmnbmnnight
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06:17.04babijoeeooo
06:17.08babijoeeummm
06:17.34babijoeemultiple changes within http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Source_Repositories
06:18.15babijoeestinebd has been doing all the work lately
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06:21.19bmnbmnO_o
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06:27.00babijoeeanyways progress is progress
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06:40.24Bladeswozzer?
06:40.28WoZZeRyes
06:40.31WoZZeRjust about to pass out
06:40.51Bladesi just was reading the logs.. i'm here to run haret on vzw rhod so you don't have to flash windows
06:40.53Bladesthat is, if you want
06:41.08Bladesah, well then.. pass out it is
06:41.11WoZZeRnah, I got it
06:41.16WoZZeRI flash to windows during the day
06:41.44WoZZeRit was just for a test
06:41.51WoZZeRso we don't need physkeyboard in nbh
06:41.52Bladesah yeah.. if you didn't.. then you wouldn't be here working on the wip
06:42.00Bladesyeah i was reading along..
06:42.19Bladesis it configurable from a cmdline/config file edit
06:42.41Bladesi think most users could handle editing a config file to specify the keyboard
06:42.41WoZZeRbut there is no startup with tinboot
06:42.52Bladesyeah.. but does it matter
06:42.55WoZZeRBlades: true, but why not try to make it automatic
06:43.10WoZZeRsomething future phones can use as well
06:43.43Bladestrue.. or have a front end for the config file
06:43.49Bladesallowing users to custom map keys
06:44.00WoZZeRthat would be cool
06:44.03Bladeshave it included in the rom..
06:44.04WoZZeRbut they are all in the rootfs
06:44.38Bladeswhy, its not as simple as a config file or kmap.txt
06:44.41Bladessomething like that?
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06:45.14Bladesthere is a program for windows mobile that allows rhod devices to custom map keys.. allowing for ctrl+c via fn+c
06:45.41Bladesperhaps that dev could share some info on the various flavors of rhod out there
06:45.59Bladesnot too many i suppose
06:46.36Bladeshey, program could read device id and assign a keymap?
06:47.01babijoeeWoZZeR: you can copy the keymap into the system
06:47.10babijoeethats how we do it
06:47.34WoZZeRbabijoee: I'm going to use current rootfs stuff
06:47.40WoZZeRI'm just trying to get rid of the physkeyboard
06:47.54Bladeswhat do you mean by that
06:48.10babijoeedoes your nand use rootfs?
06:48.10bmnbmnno manual command line parameter
06:48.24WoZZeRyeah, it's the exact same as the bundle
06:48.30WoZZeRexcept initrd.gz and zImage are in nand
06:48.30babijoeeah i c
06:48.33WoZZeRthe rest is sd card
06:48.41babijoeewhy do you want to remove physkeyboard anyway?
06:48.53Bladesyeah, ditto
06:48.54WoZZeRbecause the cmdline is in tinboot
06:49.04Bladesoh
06:49.05WoZZeRso I need a seperate nbh for each device
06:49.20babijoeeah
06:49.24bmnbmnwhy would you not want automated detection of the device?
06:49.44WoZZeRI suppose I could make it try to read th file
06:49.48babijoeebmnbmn: lol if only we could autodetect
06:49.55Bladesyeah.. is that something initrd.gz can do.. read the device id and set the appropriate keymap.. i'm really shooting in the dark here
06:49.55WoZZeRbut then people would have to change their startup, and it would be a different format
06:50.14babijoeewell
06:50.20WoZZeRbabijoee: my goal is to release maybe 2 nbh's, 1 for normal clocks, 1 for oc
06:50.21bmnbmnBlades: jonpry and wozzer were just working o that
06:50.25Bladesyou are really sympathetic to these endusers
06:50.37babijoeei c
06:50.37WoZZeRno, I'm not sympathetic
06:50.39Bladeshahah
06:50.41WoZZeRit's the oppisite actually
06:50.45WoZZeRI think everyone is stupid
06:50.48WoZZeRand I don't want to help them
06:50.54babijoeeWoZZeR: just focus on using the keylayout for which ever device you're using
06:51.06Bladesyeah
06:51.11Bladesthat works. rhod500
06:51.14Bladesw00t
06:51.17bmnbmnheh yeah,screw everyone else
06:51.22babijoeenot really :p
06:51.25WoZZeRbabijoee: jonpry found the pcbpx, which returns model number
06:51.40WoZZeRthere's a /sys/class/machine_varient_name, which pulls that
06:51.46WoZZeRso he has RHOD210000
06:51.51WoZZeRI probably have RHOD500000
06:51.51babijoeehmmm
06:51.53WoZZeRand so on
06:52.04WoZZeRand just cat that instead of physkeyboard=
06:52.14babijoeehrmmm
06:52.23babijoeewonder why our devs havent found that yet :p
06:52.29WoZZeRno idea
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06:52.34WoZZeRthat was the first thing I thought
06:52.37babijoeephh: you alive'
06:52.39WoZZeRunless olderdevices didn't have that
06:52.41Bladesor just cat 7 characters.. is that possible
06:53.00WoZZeRBlades: no point
06:53.04WoZZeRit's all reletive anyway
06:53.05Bladesbtw.. wozz. i tried installing linux.. big fail.. 4x raid 0 would not play nice with grub
06:53.13WoZZeRhaha
06:53.19WoZZeRsoftware raid?
06:53.21WoZZeRor true hardware
06:53.30WoZZeRich9/10R = software
06:53.35Bladesoh you just want to make me say it
06:53.37Bladesfakeraid
06:53.42Bladesnforce4
06:53.47WoZZeRgeee, no wonder it didn't work :P
06:54.10Bladeswell, ubuntu supports it and i tried everything.. alt-install
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06:54.32WoZZeRbabijoee: any idea if cdma location is in the works
06:54.42Bladesit wanted to write to sda every single time. and when i pointed it to the dmraid created volume.. it was like... no
06:54.53WoZZeRheh
06:54.54Bladeswhat is cdma location. triangulation
06:54.55Blades?
06:54.57babijoeeWoZZeR: dont know
06:55.05babijoeemakkonen is the CDMA developer
06:55.15babijoeei think MrPippy too
06:55.24babijoeebut they aren't active as they used to be
06:55.29WoZZeRyeah
06:55.47Bladeswoz, not really too important. but does ##DATA and so on work in nand
06:56.06WoZZeRdon't know
06:56.13WoZZeRprobably not
06:56.13babijoeeWoZZeR: do you and jonpry have same device?
06:56.15Bladesi forgot what those were called. but dialer command stuff
06:56.24WoZZeRbabijoee: no, he has rhod210, I have 500
06:56.36WoZZeRgrrr, new android froze
06:56.39babijoeedoes the pcbpx work and identify your device
06:56.58WoZZeRI have not tested it yet on my device
06:57.06WoZZeRbut in winmo it got it right
06:57.09WoZZeRfrom haret memory
06:57.29WoZZeRand he said it worked in rhobuntu
06:57.38bmnbmn_indeed
06:57.44babijoeeokay
06:57.57WoZZeRit's in spl
06:58.04WoZZeRso no idea if it's the same location for all devices
06:59.40babijoeehrmm
06:59.50babijoeei'll ask phh if he knows anything bout this :p
06:59.51Bladeswhy wouldn't it be
07:00.10babijoeeanyone here running the newest xdandroid system?
07:00.13bmnbmn_babijoee: maybe phh was just developing for his own device? :P
07:00.23WoZZeRI am
07:00.26bmnbmn_im booting it on haret right now
07:00.39babijoeebmnbmn: nope he develops for all his android children
07:00.40WoZZeRbabijoee: seems a little slower
07:00.52babijoeeWoZZeR: do you have receoption?
07:01.04WoZZeRyeah
07:01.10WoZZeRlet me call vm
07:01.12WoZZeRI have bars
07:01.31WoZZeRyup
07:01.38babijoeeok
07:01.38WoZZeRvoicemail answered
07:02.05babijoeeshutdown works :)
07:02.20WoZZeRtesting shutdown
07:02.24WoZZeRtime to flash back to windows
07:02.38babijoeeso whats the status on nand?
07:02.54WoZZeRslightly ahead of haret :D
07:03.06babijoeecool
07:03.11babijoeewhat doesnt work
07:03.11Bladeswould the imei # provide info about what type device
07:03.13WoZZeRmic works perfectly now
07:03.29babijoeecool
07:03.30WoZZeRbabijoee: 3d, usb, bt, charging/PM
07:03.43babijoeeok
07:03.53WoZZeRcharging works
07:03.57WoZZeRbut it's not accurate
07:03.59babijoeewell 3d does work for rhod/topaz
07:04.05babijoeeits just u guys dont have enough mem
07:04.21WoZZeRit's something else I think
07:04.28WoZZeRacl can't get an irq
07:04.40WoZZeRI think we have the same amount of memory as blackstone
07:04.57babijoeeblackstone is same issue
07:05.08babijoeehrmm
07:05.14WoZZeRblackstone has 3d
07:05.25babijoeeworking?
07:05.30WoZZeRit was a gralloc.ko issue
07:05.40babijoeeoh its been fixed
07:05.42babijoee:p
07:05.43WoZZeRbabijoee: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764948&page=3
07:06.20mariooliveiraafter using harat how do i get back?
07:06.27WoZZeRpower off
07:06.29mariooliveirato normal
07:06.37WoZZeRthen boot
07:06.40bmnbmn_WoZZeR: reflashing your rhod400 one more time tonight, crossing my fingers
07:06.46mariooliveiraand if i install a cab?
07:06.48WoZZeRbmnbmn_: worked fine for me
07:06.56Bladeswozzer, someone who is using a cid unlocked phone with a different radio.. wouldn't they have a different amss string?
07:07.01WoZZeRmariooliveira: cab has nothing to do with it
07:07.11WoZZeRBlades: jonpry didn't
07:07.24WoZZeRhe has non t-mo sim and CID unlocked
07:07.45Bladesyet still has tmo baseband?
07:08.13mariooliveirai have a p3300 im gona try install wing-linux. its a cab file
07:08.17Bladesso if we flashed a sprint radio. it would still be dscanblahblah-vzw 6125 or whatever it is
07:08.28babijoeedoes the wvga 3d apply to rhod / topaz non nand?
07:08.31WoZZeRthat's something else
07:08.48WoZZeRBlades: radio version will match your radio. pcb is hardware model
07:08.58WoZZeRbabijoee: no, that's acl's project
07:09.08WoZZeRrhod is a pain of a phone
07:09.14babijoeeah i c
07:09.21babijoeei didnt know what acl was :p
07:09.23Bladesyeah.. i wanted to find out what android means when it says baseband version
07:09.36Bladesso i did dmesg | grep -i 15.40 on my hd2
07:10.26Bladesand got amss version: 15.40.50.07U
07:10.43Bladesi just recognize that from boot screen (spl screen or whatever it is)
07:11.59Bladesyeah.. i'm trying to learn.. maybe i should go back  to work on that raid install. try to use a usb stick to load grub to load linux
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07:12.47bmnbmn_Blades: you have a rhod400?
07:13.06Bladesnope.. rhod500 and leo
07:13.36bmnbmn_bleh ok
07:13.50Bladeshah, why..
07:14.04Bladeswhats different sans keymap?
07:14.17babijoeeWoZZeR: you guys plan on making this for other msm7k devices?
07:14.21babijoeenand*
07:14.24bmnbmn_having an issue with the new nand test
07:14.43WoZZeRbabijoee: I'm only doing dev on rhod, but it should work for any device
07:14.53WoZZeRIt's just an xip replacement that loads the zImage
07:14.59Bladeswozzer.. like i said before. i can test on att pure
07:15.10Bladesor whatever that diamond 2 att is called
07:15.18DuperManWoZZeR: tinboot?
07:15.23babijoeeoh cool
07:15.25WoZZeRDuperMan: yeah
07:15.53WoZZeRbabijoee: the problem is that wince takes care of a lot of the tough work, so you need to write screen drivers and stuff
07:16.00WoZZeRwe already had that since topaz seemed to work fine
07:16.13WoZZeRrhod seems to use a lot of topaz code
07:16.27babijoeeyeah
07:16.41babijoeethose two a probally same device + keyboard
07:16.45Bladesoh yeah? want me to try to flash to a topaz?
07:16.45WoZZeRyeah
07:16.53WoZZeRno reason it shouldn't work on other devices
07:16.56WoZZeRtinboot was from vogue
07:16.58Bladesscreen and digitizer is different probably.. so much.. cheaper
07:17.33WoZZeRbabijoee: I think that it worked for HD2, but they don't have a screen driver, so they don't know where the kernel is dying
07:17.46babijoeehas any brave soul tested to see if it runs on the raph/diam
07:17.46Bladesthats why I have two topazs.. my ex gf managed to screw up two digitizers
07:17.52babijoeelol
07:17.54WoZZeRlol
07:18.02Bladesi took both apart
07:18.07Bladesthe first one, she dropped in the toliet..
07:18.24babijoeemaybe they should write a screen driver :p
07:18.31DuperManLIES! Chicks don't use the toilet:|
07:19.00Bladesi fixed that.. and THEN she broke the digitizer.. newtons rings was the first 'symptom' of the dying digitizer
07:19.29Bladesyeah, thats what i said
07:19.55bmnbmn_WoZZeR: when you tried nand, did you use the new 9/3/10 system?
07:20.00DuperManlol. what're 'newtons rings'?
07:20.43babijoeeWoZZeR: can you link me to the source repo your working on
07:20.45Bladesbut yeah. i have two frankentopazs that are partially fixed.. newtons rings appear between the lcd and the digitizer.. they look like.. drops of oil in a puddle of water.. kind of
07:20.58Bladesand damn it hasn't even been 9/3/10 for 3 hours
07:20.59Bladesheh
07:21.29DuperManthought so. meh.
07:21.53bmnbmn_babijoee: http://gitorious.org/~acl/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-rhod-nand
07:22.27WoZZeRbmnbmn_: yes, I told you that already
07:22.37WoZZeRthx bmnbmn_
07:22.39bmnbmn_WoZZeR: sorry I didnt see that
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07:28.29mariooliveirafrom were can i download the android 2.2 for testing on my pda?
07:28.51Bladesthe different file that necessitates different nbh among devices. how big is it
07:28.52mariooliveiraim at http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2.html but
07:29.08mariooliveirano download
07:29.19mariooliveirai dont wast sdk
07:29.24WoZZeRBlades: it's only the physkeyboard now
07:29.28babijoeemariooliveira:  wat devuce
07:29.28WoZZeRI fixed the data issue
07:29.30babijoeedevice*
07:29.50mariooliveirap3300
07:30.04Bladesheh, i could make a bat that uses wget to download the appropriate file for device and nbhutil to build the nbh
07:30.05babijoeeis that a htc msm7k device?
07:31.00WoZZeRBlades: for what? I have a script that does all that and builds the kernel from source
07:31.43WoZZeRok, time to sleep
07:31.48Bladesem, well. post one file.. thats always updated
07:32.19Bladesend user downloads that zip file with.. bat/wget/nbhutil.. and that pulls the most up to date build for the device
07:32.22WoZZeRBlades: because a lot of the tests are failures
07:32.39Bladeswell, thats the fun part
07:33.13Bladesheh.. guess i enjoy different things from avg ppcgeeks forum
07:33.20WoZZeRit wouldn't be hard, just have a script that does git pull, runs the creation scripts and uploads it
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07:33.53WoZZeRactually, if we get the keyboard thing fixed, tinboot will be finalized
07:34.08WoZZeRand I can just post that binary for rhod as xip.bin
07:34.12WoZZeRbut, sleep now
07:34.21Bladesgoodngiht man.. awesome work
07:34.27mariooliveirababijoee,   do i download sdk to install on my phone?
07:34.57babijoeeno
07:34.58mariooliveirababi xda developers send me to a wing-linux
07:35.21Bladesone more thing.. does nand get formatted/partitioned..
07:35.31Bladesis it mountable in android or rhobuntu.. if so where
07:35.34mariooliveirababijoee, but i guess its not most recent
07:35.58Bladeswell, i assume u already are out wozz. heh.. so consider that rhetorical
07:35.59Bladesadios
07:36.26babijoeemariooliveira: hmmm try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=711692
07:36.36babijoeei have no clue what device you have mariooliveira
07:36.46mariooliveirap3300 htc
07:36.51babijoeecodename
07:37.06babijoeediamond, touch pro, tp2 td2 blackstone?
07:37.10mariooliveiraartemis
07:37.21mariooliveirababijoee,  artemis
07:38.29babijoeewow
07:38.34babijoeedont think you can run android :p
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07:38.55babijoeedont know if theres a working linux kernel for your device
07:39.39bmnbmn_fuck I hope someone can reproduce this rhod400 nand problem
07:41.02Bladeswhats happening
07:42.02bmnbmn_mariooliveira: http://wing-linux.sourceforge.net/trac/
07:43.22bmnbmn_Blades: not booting into xdandroid
07:44.23mariooliveirabmnbmn_,  yes  . if i install cab file what happens to my htc?
07:44.40bmnbmn_mariooliveira: I dont know, it installs a program that you can run to load android?
07:44.46Bladesmario - the android port is not that functional..
07:44.49Bladeshttp://wing-linux.sourceforge.net/trac/wiki/HTCArtemis
07:44.51bmnbmn_probably creates a shortcut for you
07:45.12Bladesyeah.. it could also electrocute u
07:45.18Bladestheres that
07:45.40mariooliveirabut a hard reset fixes it right?
07:46.09Bladesbmnbmn - where is it halting.. theres evidence of it finding the goods on the sd card, right?
07:46.43mariooliveirathat is a w ay i w anted to install using haret
07:47.00bmnbmn_Blades: as far as I know its finding everything
07:47.13Bladesdid it create data store and all that?
07:47.24bmnbmn_yep
07:47.29mariooliveirathe wing software is 6 months old
07:47.59Bladesi can try flashing it on my rhod500
07:48.07Bladesthe only thing different is the keyboard, right?
07:48.07bmnbmn_dont bother, it works for wozzer
07:48.12Bladesoh
07:48.14bmnbmn_I think I am just being impatient, maybe my SD card is dieing
07:48.19mariooliveiracan a cab damage rom firmware?
07:48.28Bladesthe rhod400 works for wozzer. or just the overall nand build
07:49.00Bladesyes, if the cab runs the phone over.. but it'd have to be a bad driver
07:49.06bmnbmn_the rhod500 nand build works for wozzer
07:50.00Bladesaside from the keyboard config, there is no reason why the rhod500 build wouldn't work for you
07:50.25Bladesjust for testing purpose.. to see if there was something amiss with the configuration of the rhod400 build
07:51.35Bladesthat was a questment.. half question.. half statement
07:51.40bmnbmn_true
07:51.49Bladesso, flash it..
07:52.02bmnbmn_maybe I will!
07:52.09bmnbmn_what do you think about them apples
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07:52.56Bladesoverrated and overpriced x86-64 PCs with an OS designed by the creators of Hello Kitty
07:52.59Bladesthats what i think about apples
07:55.17bmnbmn_000206B3: 34 35
07:55.25bmnbmn_nothing wrong with the build
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07:55.55BladesHitTheWifiok.. did it work
07:55.59bmnbmn_no
07:56.09bmnbmn_I'll just wait and see if anyone else with a rhod400 complains, in the meantime I will order a new microsd
07:56.22BladesHitTheWifiand i don't know if you got this.. before i switched off my wlan.. but what about the modules
07:56.53BladesHitTheWifidid you create andboot folder and Android folder
07:56.53bmnbmn_its there
07:57.13bmnbmn_yep
07:57.23BladesHitTheWifii think i remember having trouble at first with that.. I had to make a folder called Android as well. i just sprinkled my sd card with android setups
07:57.43BladesHitTheWifiyay
07:58.23Bladeswell, thats tough luck. what are the specs on the sd card
07:59.00bmnbmn_just the included sandisk 1gb microsd from tp2 retail package
07:59.15Bladesoh.. yeah..
07:59.20Bladesi never knew it came with one
07:59.28Bladeswell i have vzw
07:59.33Bladesthey just give you bills
07:59.38Bladesthe bad kind
08:00.02Bladesbut yeah.. euthanize that card and get a class 6 4gb for like 20$
08:00.26Bladesi stand corrected
08:00.28Bladeshttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183246&cm_re=class_6_4gb_microsd-_-20-183-246-_-Product
08:00.32Blades9$
08:01.03Blades6$ more gets u 8gb
08:01.44Bladesk im out.
08:01.54Bladesgood luck. try diff android build
08:02.45Bladesformat the card too
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08:03.35mariooliveiraafter instaling a  wing linux cab. can i redo to windows mobile? does its afect rom fine in anayway?
08:03.42mariooliveira<PROTECTED>
08:06.03Ondalfi guess its made with haret, just rebooting phone brings you back to winmo.
08:06.33mariooliveirayes but files are cab
08:07.19Ondalfit doesn't matter. its just user friendlier installer
08:08.15mariooliveiraOndalf,  soif i reset i get old windows mobile safely?
08:08.53Ondalfreplace word reset with turn off mobile from android.
08:09.05mariooliveiraok ty
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09:34.11babijoeestinebd: going to make an official XDANDROID youtube page. where we can post tutorials and members can upload their fan videos :)
09:34.19babijoeeopps wrong chan
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09:55.15[acl]who der ?
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10:03.41camrohi alura :)
10:03.51camrohi alaura :)
10:05.11[acl]:-p
10:05.21[acl]how goes it
10:05.25[acl]u the only one around
10:07.39[acl]WoZZeR: im keeping track with the progress but this aruba connection hurts
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10:13.26camrowel, i'm looking for camera driver ...
10:13.32camrois there any open source ?
10:13.37camroex: for htc hd2 ?
10:13.50[acl]camera ? hmm no idea..
10:14.06camroi want to see, if it is complete unrealistic to get this working on blackstone
10:14.21[acl]so low priority for tp2 that i never researched
10:14.35[acl]camro: how is progress on blackstone?
10:14.43camrowell, good ...
10:14.54[acl]camro: whats missing ?
10:15.04camroyesterday - a lot of testing for INCALL volset
10:15.43camrojonpry have all infos for it ... hopefully get fix it with the new rhod package, which will also fix the INCALL volume
10:16.16camrofor now - missing ... camera ... it's a 4,9M camera ..
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10:16.53camroso, i need a phone with an open source driver for camera ...
10:17.21[acl]may need to start the research. you the only one dev on black right now ?
10:18.14camrono ...
10:18.55camroworking the most time with other guys together ..OLiWe do the most parts for it - i'M only the slave :)
10:19.26camroat first - i need a working android phone + camera
10:19.50camroany idea ? - i mean htc hd2 - there the camera is working - or ?
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10:21.25[acl]no idea whats up with hd2..
10:24.20camroi will ask Cotulla if he is back ...
10:24.32camrohow is going on your side, acl ?
10:25.35HardDisk_WPfriend of mine has broken tp2 screen, fell down and now the glass is broken
10:25.50HardDisk_WPthe colors are intact, so i think it's digitizer
10:26.08HardDisk_WPwhere can i get a cheap replacement in germany?
10:27.40Hick-Satlooks like some discussion on camera in here http://www.drakaz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=154
10:29.21camroprobieroh, thanks Hick-Sat .. will take a look :)
10:37.58Hick-Satwld the samsung open source driver help us in any case
10:46.36camroseen Cotulla
10:47.49camrowell, it is also a qualcom base ... hmm - we will se ..
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10:56.18gauner1986hi guys
10:56.48hyperfire21Wozzer i just tried the rhod400 nbh. it seems its getting stuck at: [133.607849] DISABLING IRQ #26
10:58.17hyperfire21Used latest rootfs, modules, zimage
10:59.21camrohi gauner1986
10:59.32gauner1986hi camro
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10:59.55CotullaV20hey
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11:08.09gauner1986hey cotulla
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11:14.07THRHOPE4LINUXI was wondering what is the current status for NAND boot on the HD2 been out of country for a while and shocked by the quick progress since July overall
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11:14.17[Delenn]hello
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11:14.52[Delenn]gauner1986 how are u?
11:15.27THRHOPE4LINUXanyone?
11:15.32[Delenn]me here
11:15.34[Delenn]:)
11:15.40gauner1986[Delenn] i'm a bit tired.. have to get myself a coffee now.. and you? :)
11:15.49gauner1986still another name everyday?
11:15.49gauner1986:P
11:16.15THRHOPE4LINUXhave i missed cotulla?
11:16.26[Delenn]camro, how is it?
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11:16.59MNhello
11:17.06camrohi Delenn, thanks fine
11:17.10camrohi MN :)
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11:17.35MNhows it going
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11:17.42camrohow is going, Delenn ?
11:18.22[Delenn]not bad
11:18.42[Delenn]not ricked yet
11:19.36MNhi gauner1986
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11:20.45[Delenn]~seen Delenn
11:20.54apti haven't seen 'delenn', [Delenn]
11:20.54camrowell, if someone knows LOW LEVEL information about the camera driver for blackstone - please let me know ..
11:20.54gauner1986hi mn
11:21.04[Delenn]which model there camro?
11:21.35camroHTC HD (blackstone) - should be a 5m camera - maybe qualcomm ..
11:21.45[Delenn]hm
11:25.28[Delenn]qualcomm never developed cameras
11:27.01camrook, i have no idea yet ... i used my camera in last 2 years for ~20 picture
11:27.13camrobut it should work on android, too :)
11:28.47[Delenn]search in WM dump for S5K string (with big letters)
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11:37.01camro~seen ph
11:37.04aptph <n=hidden@CPE000f66256171-CM009064a16520.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gsoc, 565d 14h 37m 4s ago, saying: 'Great. Thanks for the help.'.
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11:38.09camrophh: when can you commit the implementation of 3,5mm cinch to kernel ?
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11:39.36hyperfire21camro is it working for rhodium?
11:39.50camrocan't test it there ..
11:39.56camrohave the rhod also a 35mm ?
11:40.02hyperfire21yea
11:40.40camrowell, it is done now for blackstone board ..maybe you can use almost the same ..
11:40.43StummeJcamro: if you have the kernel and zimage ill be glad to test on the rhod500
11:41.04camroprincip: it is only implemented for blackstone - i mean ..
11:41.16camrobut not 100% sure now ..
11:41.44camromaybe it could be easily implemented in rhod board, too.
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11:42.18[Delenn]camro, why u didn't implement it two years ago?
11:42.19camrobut what i know, jonpry do a lot of things for rhod audio - so, maybe it is better to wait for finishing his job
11:42.37camroi'm on android since 2 weeks *G
11:42.45camronever treid it before ...
11:43.17camroadditionally - OliWe did the changes for it ..
11:44.02camrobefore the blackstone was not usable (because touchscreen doesn'T do what the finger tell it :)
11:44.22[Delenn]hm
11:44.42camrosince this is fixed (also OliWe and me) - blackstone will be getting more android user every day :)
11:45.38camrobut the blackstone fixes - goes all to Oliwe ...
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12:37.17Tripknotixdoes android on tp2 run things like calls, and IM's faster than winmo
12:37.26Tripknotixand also, is there any battery issues with android on tp2?
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12:42.07LeTamaHello guys!
12:42.18[Delenn]hi LeTama
12:42.21[Delenn]how are u?
12:42.30LeTamagood thank you, and you ?
12:42.39[Delenn]also, but cold and rains :(
12:43.01[Delenn]true autumn seems :(
12:43.06LeTamaagain ? unusual for the season ?
12:43.18[Delenn]yeah
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12:44.00LeTamasame here, we have nice weather but lower temperature than usual
12:44.08[Delenn]oh
12:44.27[Delenn]seems weather controller got bugs haha
12:44.49LeTamalol, fix it!
12:45.25gauner1986hey letama
12:45.27gauner1986:)
12:45.37LeTamahey gauner1986!
12:46.00LeTamadid you have time to play with my xdandroid stuff ?
12:46.04gauner1986not yet
12:46.05gauner1986:(
12:46.10LeTamaok
12:46.18gauner1986will hve some time on sunday
12:46.39LeTamaok, let me know how it goes...
12:50.03LeTamayou will have to patch liblights, xdandroid doesn't have LIGHT_ID_DUALLED, LIGHT_ID_CAPSFUNC, LIGHT_ID_JOGBALL
12:50.24gauner1986i'll also try to do it on cm git
12:50.33LeTamacool
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12:51.40gauner1986ok, gotta go
12:51.40gauner1986bb
12:51.54[Delenn]bb
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13:23.46EdLinwhich is better to run with Android, Energy ROM or Elegancia? If both run equally well, which (or another one?) do you prefer?
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13:25.56EdLinmaybe I'll ask when people aren't at work / asleep. :-)
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13:35.49smooth_penguinHey, Im thinking of getting the htc desire phone and try the cyanogen mods on it
13:35.58smooth_penguinwhat do you guys think of the phone
13:37.38EdLinsmooth_penguin, you might want to ask on #android, this is the channel for modding HTC phones that don't already run Linux mostly.
13:37.55EdLinsmooth_penguin, for what it's worth, it's a good phone. :)
13:38.18smooth_penguinEdLin, ah thanks :)
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13:43.14Tripknotixcan i get acouple of people with android 2.2 to test a flash game (3D Racing) in their browser please?
13:43.36Tripknotixwww.realdefinition.net/mode4 please tell me ur FPS while moving, (its at the top right)
13:47.58stinebddoes n1 count? averages around 17fps
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13:49.32Tripknotixok
13:49.34Tripknotixthe big question is
13:49.37Tripknotixwhere did it peak at?
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13:49.42Tripknotixand where did it lower at
13:49.47stinebd23 was the highest i saw, 12 was the lowest
13:49.52Tripknotixok there we go
13:49.55Tripknotixyeah its maxed at 20
13:49.58Tripknotixbut it goes above sometimes
13:50.12Tripknotixmy android on hd2, does 14-18 almost always
13:50.18ali1234i keep falling out the track for no reason :(
13:50.18Tripknotixso thats good to hear it goes above
13:50.34Tripknotixwww.realdefinition.net/mode4 i need another testing round please, everyone whats ur high fps and ur low fps and ur average
13:53.02Tripknotixstinebd
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13:55.46stinebdsorry i'm using the phone right now
13:55.46Tripknotixlolz
13:55.46stinebdapparently these things do voice calls too
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14:07.46gauner1986re
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14:11.24MNHi
14:13.31dcordesey
14:13.53dcordesQue tal
14:14.18gauner1986muy grande
14:14.21gauner1986y tu
14:14.37dcordesmaravilloso my friend
14:14.55gauner1986hm.. now that the ps3-mod is out
14:15.09dcordesyou can install linux again ?
14:15.19gauner1986every fucking pre-soldered atmel board is sold out
14:15.28dcordesah I see chip
14:15.32gauner1986:(
14:15.50gauner1986i never upgraded to a non-linux-firmware
14:15.51gauner1986:)
14:16.09dcordesI want to see linux-ps3 with direct hardware interaction no hypervisor bs. then I will also buy one
14:16.36dcordesbbiab
14:16.36gauner1986it's possible now
14:16.37gauner1986;)
14:16.43dcordesreally ?
14:16.53gauner1986yeah.. if you mod the kernel for it xD
14:17.15gauner1986and write a haret-like app :)
14:17.59[Delenn]lol on words all is rather easy ;)
14:18.44gauner1986http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/155248/ATMEL-TOOL-AT90USBKEY/SHOP_AREA_29142&promotionareaSearchDetail=005
14:18.45gauner1986need
14:18.46gauner1986:(
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14:20.39gauner1986[delenn]: yeah.. but now that the exploit is out.. it IS possible :D
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14:21.00[Delenn]:D
14:21.21tids2k@darky .. u thr
14:21.37gauner1986[delenn]: did you also deal with those devices?
14:21.58[Delenn]no...
14:22.02[Delenn]wait
14:22.07[Delenn]u about PS3 or AVR?
14:22.16gauner1986http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/155248/ATMEL-TOOL-AT90USBKEY/SHOP_AREA_29142&promotionareaSearchDetail=005
14:22.18gauner1986this one
14:22.40[Delenn]hm
14:22.48gauner1986you can program it with the ps3-exploit
14:22.54[Delenn]is it expensive?
14:23.01gauner1986at this shop, yes
14:23.07[Delenn]u can buy beagle board for 100$, isn't it?
14:23.29gauner1986but there are other shops which have it for 40$ or so
14:23.46gauner1986beagle board would be overkill ^^
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14:32.20gauner1986rofl
14:32.28gauner1986maybe hd2 can do the jailbreak also
14:33.59hyperfire21they should try to use psp as the jailbreak
14:34.06gauner1986i dont have one
14:35.17gauner1986basically every device which is able to do usbhost should do it
14:35.28hyperfire21http://netzke.blogspot.com/
14:35.38hyperfire21check it
14:36.00gauner1986lol
14:36.01gauner1986nice
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14:37.08hyperfire21imagine it.. mom and son fighting over the phone.. i need to play! - son.. i'm the phone damn it! - mom :p
14:37.20gauner1986:D
14:37.56MNlol
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14:38.13gauner1986i think you dont need to have it connected all the time
14:38.14gauner1986:P
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14:40.03gauner1986but he doesnt have sourcecode
14:40.04gauner1986T_T
14:41.34flagadawith n900 work already
14:41.38gauner1986i know
14:41.47gauner1986but i didnt find that sourcecode
14:43.55flagadahttp://xceleo.org/psfreedom.tar.gz
14:45.08gauner1986hm
14:45.10gauner1986thx
14:45.13flagada:)
14:45.14gauner1986but that's a binary
14:46.15gauner1986ah ok
14:46.17flagadahttp://kakaroto.homelinux.net/2010/09/psfreedom-jailbreak-ps3-with-n900-worked-finished-and-released/      other but down
14:46.24gauner1986yeah
14:46.24gauner1986pity
14:46.26gauner1986:(
14:46.32gauner1986not even on google cache
14:47.14gauner1986i wonder about the size of the module
14:47.15gauner1986Oo
14:47.18gauner1986it's 190k
14:47.19gauner1986wtf
14:47.44gauner1986is that so much code for emulating an usb-hub and plugging a few devices on and off?
14:48.26[Delenn]u should be haooy
14:48.28[Delenn]happy
14:48.34[Delenn]it not 10 mb
14:48.37[Delenn]:)
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14:48.42flagadai have friend with n900 and tested that and its work
14:48.51gauner1986yeah
14:48.53gauner1986i thought so
14:48.53DuperManI'm happier still, it's not a gig
14:48.54gauner1986:)
14:48.58gauner1986:D
14:49.14DuperMan:)
14:49.18[Delenn]they may insert there pictures in BMP
14:49.25[Delenn]or sound crappy sound\
14:49.25gauner1986hm
14:49.26flagadabut now me wait for hd2 :)
14:49.29gauner1986could be
14:49.34[Delenn]maybe album...
14:49.38gauner1986lol
14:49.42gauner1986yeah
14:49.44gauner1986shitty musi
14:49.46gauner1986music
14:49.57gauner1986which the ps3 doesnt like
14:50.03[Delenn]or just random data
14:50.07gauner1986so it gets said and gives up
14:50.14gauner1986s/said/sad/
14:52.11gauner1986if he releases the source
14:52.16gauner1986it should also work on leo
14:52.19gauner1986*hopefully*
14:52.20gauner1986:D
14:52.29flagada:)
14:53.51flagadaor a GS my wife have that :p
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14:57.47gauner1986:)
14:57.57gauner1986gs?
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15:03.38gauner1986uh
15:03.39gauner1986darkstone
15:03.42gauner1986you here?
15:03.43gauner1986:P
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15:03.56gauner1986ok, not here
15:03.56gauner1986^^
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15:04.37darkstonehi hi
15:04.42gauner1986hi
15:04.44dcordesdarkstone: Hi
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15:04.55dcordesdarkstone: How's it goin ?
15:05.01Cassnot darkstone
15:05.03darkstonenot bad, at work at the moment
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15:05.10darkstoneim darkstone
15:05.16darkstonejust testing a ban
15:05.24darkstone-_-
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15:05.58darkstonedcordes: apparently the new wifi commit in git causes some hard freezes in sense builds
15:06.08darkstonewell, reading threads on xda suggests this anyway
15:06.26dcordesdarkstone: Yeah you remember our conversation about the reason ?
15:06.38dcordesdarkstone: AFAIR we talked about that on #htc-linux-chat
15:06.45darkstoneah the firmware?
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15:06.58dcordesdarkstone: the HTC programs expect a different version of the driver which is handled in a different way.
15:07.16dcordesdarkstone: ...generally speaking
15:07.24darkstoneok, looks like i'll need to revert that then D:
15:08.08dcordesdarkstone: did you get to scan manually with the client firmware loaded in GIT ?
15:08.14darkstoneno xD
15:08.19darkstonenone of the commands worked
15:08.26darkstonedcordes: http://pastebin.com/gXpvG71E
15:08.41darkstonedon't know if its a userspace issue
15:08.55darkstonei assume these commands work in ubuntu?
15:09.29Cassinsmod wpa_supplicant ?  insmod bcm4329.ko fw_pwt etc .. surely
15:10.25darkstonei'll try that too, though i just tried the commands dcordes asked me to test
15:10.47Casswpa_spuu is not a kernel module
15:10.56darkstonebinary
15:11.00Cassthe insmod bcm pw_path etc should work
15:12.18darkstoneok, back to work
15:12.20darkstonebbl D:
15:12.34Cassenjoy
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15:17.43gauner1986[delenn]: help me to make that a kernel module -> http://github.com/psgroove/psgroove/blob/master/psgroove.c !!!! :D
15:19.03[Delenn]which problem u got?
15:20.05gauner1986that's very specific to that avr.. they use a strange usb framework
15:20.12gauner1986dunno how to do that in linux kernel
15:22.20[Delenn]yeah
15:22.38[Delenn]just replace it with linux functions
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15:26.31gauner1986i fear it would be a complete rewrite :P
15:26.50gauner1986but i'll read a bit.. maybe i can do some stuff there
15:28.49tids2kdarky @ can u add support for extended batteries in ur kernel
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15:45.49WoZZeRjonpry: you there?
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15:47.08bmnbmnhyperfire21: looks like you have the same issue with the nand build that I do, did you happen to find a solution for it?
15:47.30WoZZeRbmnbmn: yeah, use the 8/30 build
15:47.43bmnbmnfigures
15:47.58bmnbmnwait, 8/30 build of what?
15:48.02WoZZeR9/19
15:48.04WoZZeRarg
15:48.05WoZZeR8/19
15:48.14bmnbmnoh system.ext2? yeah that was the ONLY thing I didnt try
15:48.21WoZZeRstinebd: you there?
15:48.35bmnbmnbecause last night wozzer told me he used the 9/3 build :P
15:49.16stinebdWoZZeR: sorta
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15:50.02WoZZeRstinebd: the 9/3 build seems to cause issues for rhod400 using nand boot, but not 500, any idea why?
15:50.11WoZZeRthere's a polling irq #26 error
15:50.41stinebddo previous builds act similarly?
15:50.53WoZZeR8/19 seems to work fine
15:51.03WoZZeRbmnbmn: you can test this
15:51.16stinebddoes it get to a point where logcat starts up?
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15:51.43WoZZeRI'm not sure. I have a rhod500, so I'm going based on what people say
15:51.51WoZZeR[133.607849] DISABLING IRQ #26.
15:51.58WoZZeRso it's probably pretty far into the boot
15:52.08bmnbmnWoZZeR: I will test this right as I get off the phone
15:52.10stinebdindeed, a couple of minutes
15:52.28bmnbmnIt actually happens to me about ~50 seconds in
15:52.41bmnbmnand if I dont calibrate the touch screen, it'll happen before that
15:52.55stinebdcan you verify that old builds are the same?
15:52.59stinebderr
15:53.00stinebdaren't*
15:53.01bmnbmnI am going to try 8/19 right now
15:53.08stinebdthanks
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15:58.15Microangapt seen mattc
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15:59.01WisTilt2WoZZer: on that irq26 issue, did you add some kind of code in that build that is playing with the secure digital controller #2?  Thats what that irq is.
15:59.40bmnbmnWoZZeR: same result on 8/19
15:59.44bmnbmnstinebd: same result on 8/19
15:59.45bmnbmnbrb
15:59.58stinebdfun
16:00.03[Delenn]maybe SD2 is WLAN
16:00.05stinebd<3 cdma
16:00.05WoZZeRbmnbmn: hmm. I reverted back to the old working clocks, is that what you are talking about WisTilt2?
16:00.10WoZZeRsdc2 is mmc
16:00.13WoZZeRsdc1 is wlan
16:00.23[Delenn]:)
16:00.34gauner1986wlan is connected via scsi?
16:00.35WisTilt2yeah, maybe something in clocks init no good now?
16:00.36gauner1986funny
16:00.46WoZZeRWisTilt2: but it works for 500, lol
16:02.16WoZZeRI'll have a test for bmn as soon as he comes back
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16:05.23hyperfire21wozz u got an update?
16:05.31WoZZeRyou have a 400, right?
16:05.37hyperfire21yea
16:05.44WoZZeRdid you get the irq 26 error?
16:05.50hyperfire21yea
16:05.53WoZZeRtry this: http://www.mediafire.com/?gh9di90u1gdtyci
16:06.13hyperfire21ok 2 min
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16:07.26gnutoohi jonpry
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16:09.09bmnbmnback sorry
16:09.13WoZZeRbmntry this: http://www.mediafire.com/?gh9di90u1gdtyci
16:09.25bmnbmnheres something interesting to note
16:09.33bmnbmnmy ts calibration file didnt get saved to my sd card
16:09.50bmnbmni calibrated after the irq problem
16:09.53bmnbmnok trying
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16:12.13bmnbmn_WoZZeR: xdandroid booted this time, not using that new file you linked
16:12.15hyperfire21a fake bmnbmn?
16:12.28bmnbmn_it opened sound at the end of the boot process
16:12.42WoZZeRso it worked fine with the old one?
16:12.44bmnbmn_instead of before the calibration this time
16:12.50bmnbmn_well, yes the 2nd time
16:12.55WoZZeRbad mmc?
16:13.05bmnbmn_i pulled the battery, restarted it, and it worked... through luck
16:13.56bmnbmn_let me try your new file because, it just froze on the splash screen
16:13.59bmnbmn_how wonky
16:14.37l_dam. i was instaling wing -linux for my artemis device. all seemed to work fine untill i see lst message  switch_root cant open '/dev/consoles no sutch file or directory   :(
16:14.55l_rrrrrrg
16:15.04hyperfire21still booting.. so far its fine.. at splash screen
16:15.24l_i think its stoped
16:17.01dcordesphh: ping
16:18.46hyperfire21splash screen is at a loop...
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16:20.21Tripknotixwww.realdefinition.net/mode4 how does my Cell Phone friendly buttons look for the lobby?
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16:21.17MN_Hi
16:22.20WoZZeRhyperfire21: I've noticed that the opening screen takes a while now
16:22.25WoZZeRit sat there for about 7 minutes
16:22.28WoZZeRon frist boot
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16:23.03hyperfire21lol damn... i just restared after 5
16:23.11hexedWozzer: So am I reading the logs correctly?  TP2 has better volume control now on NAND?
16:23.20WoZZeRyeah
16:23.22hexednice
16:23.24hexedcongrats man
16:23.34hexedfor sound and everything obviously
16:23.35WoZZeRit's pohket and jonpry
16:23.50hexedof course
16:23.53stinebdspeaking of which, anybody have paypal info for pohket?
16:23.53WoZZeRThey've got the sound insights
16:23.57hexedbut don't be so modest
16:23.59hexed:P
16:24.06hexedyeah
16:24.15PohketNo - that loser totally needs to set something up though...
16:24.17hexedpohket did the "save the day" thing again I see
16:24.29hexedcongrats pohket
16:24.43PohketWorking on the little bugs that're still around in it
16:24.47hexedof course
16:24.51bmnbmn_yeah he needs to save the day on 3d and bluetooth and everything else
16:24.57stinebdPohket: please do set up paypal, we have a cut of the donations for you
16:25.01hexeddoes this fix translate well into the haret version yet?
16:25.19PohketI only run Haret version hexed -- so basically - these fixes translate into nand
16:25.46Tripknotixso what does nand mean? if u install on the flash hard drive?
16:26.04hexedahh
16:26.04hexedic
16:26.08hyperfire21wozz second time it stopped at DISABLING IRQ #26
16:26.19WoZZeRwith the new file?
16:26.38hexedhave the updates been posted in a new zimage file?
16:26.49hyperfire21YEA
16:26.57WoZZeRhmmm, no idea
16:27.07WoZZeRmight need to wait for acl to get back from his vacation
16:27.24bmnbmn_damn rhod400
16:27.38bmnbmn_hyperfire21: out of curiousity, what are the specs on your microsd card?
16:28.17hyperfire21class 2 1gb
16:28.30bmnbmn_the one that came with the touch pro 2?
16:28.47hexedWoZZeR: Ahhh.. so ACL is the one who wraps that stuff up?
16:29.09WoZZeRwell, he has a 400, so he can test. he also does a lot of the clock work
16:29.20hexedic
16:29.29hyperfire21i guess..
16:29.38hexeddang.. he is out for like 10 days or so eh?
16:29.54WoZZeRnot sure
16:32.33bmnbmn_hyperfire21: mine is 1gb as well, probably class 2
16:32.57hyperfire21well the first time it did boot to splash screen.. i guess i didnt wait long enough
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16:41.47MN_hows the hd2 dev going
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17:10.46l_arrg how do i copy a file to a nother directory on my htc on windows mobile?
17:11.26l_i clicked on file cd click  copy. but i cant figger how to paste
17:11.45l_im using file explorer
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17:15.56l_<PROTECTED>
17:16.26gauner1986this is not a windows mobile help-channel
17:16.49l_im trying to install linux l
17:17.43THRHOPE4LINUXbeen in here a while .. wondering anyone know how nand development is going on the hd2?
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17:23.25bmnbmnWoZZeR: fyi same result from new rhod400 test file
17:23.36bmnbmnI guess we'll just have to wait and see what ACL comes up with
17:23.40WoZZeRI think it's your sd card or something then
17:24.10bmnbmnI can tell you all kinds of funky stuff happening on bootup if you like, but I don't know if any of it is related
17:24.52bmnbmnI wish I could get you a log file for you to look through
17:24.57bmnbmncause I could pick and choose from errors all day
17:25.07bmnbmnor messages, not errors, I should say
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17:27.53Tripknotixwhat does nand devlepoment mean?
17:28.25Tripknotixwhich phone l_
17:28.43l_p3300
17:28.47l_artemis
17:29.23l_it starts booting linux but terminades witha n error /dev/console
17:29.46l_coudnt no ..../dev/console
17:31.14l_maybe i miss somting
17:32.22l_i just wanted to try linux on pda so see its potentials even no calls  or gps
17:32.39l_like instaling kismet
17:32.58l_or wireshark
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17:51.06NeoMatrixJR_MobiWoZZeR: damn, leaving on vacation soon but saw nand is AHEAD of haret now?! Any plan to backport changes to haret?
17:51.37NeoMatrixJR_MobiFull working mic would be awesome for hands free navigation
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17:52.51NeoMatrixJR_MobiAnd working 3D?
17:53.14NeoMatrixJR_MobiCrap...wish I had time 2 read all the logs
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17:57.29Tripknotixoh, nand means a full on rom, to the hard drive i bet
17:57.36Tripknotixinstead of running off microsd
17:57.39Tripknotixvia haret
17:57.48Tripknotixthey got that for the hd2 yet or just tp2?
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17:58.32MNHello
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17:59.22camrohi MN
17:59.32camro+seen Cotulla
17:59.41Microang~seen cotulla
17:59.43aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 6h 32m 7s ago, saying: 'it's my time :D'.
17:59.47camro~seen Cotulla
17:59.47aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 6h 32m 11s ago, saying: 'it's my time :D'.
17:59.50Microang:D
18:00.34Tripknotixwhat does he mean by its his time anyway
18:00.36Microanghard drive lol
18:00.45camrokmy keyboard is crappy
18:00.45Tripknotixsolid state drive?
18:00.46Tripknotixo.O
18:00.48Tripknotixflash drive
18:01.18camrotoo much cigarettes on the kb
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18:02.20MNhe was on yesterday try cotullav20
18:03.54MicroangNAND is ROM
18:04.00MicroangRead only Memory
18:04.06Microangin this case flash memory
18:04.07Microang:D
18:04.42Microang<PROTECTED>
18:04.43Microang:D
18:05.44MN~seen cotullav20
18:05.46aptcotullav20 <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 7h 5m 51s ago, saying: 'hey'.
18:06.09Microanglol
18:06.12Microangv20?
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18:06.32Microangapt cotullav20
18:06.41Microangapt cotulla
18:06.41aptit has been said that cotulla is a n00b
18:07.33Microanglol NO O_o
18:07.43MNlol yh he upgraded to v20 :P
18:08.48Microanghe's already got wp20?
18:08.52MicroangXD
18:10.01WisTilt2WoZZer: how familiar are you with micropklt?
18:11.09MNlol
18:12.24MNi wonder if Mavy ever got tinboot to work on the hd2
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18:16.26jonpryhey wozzer
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18:26.43EdLinis anyone working on NAND access for the HD2 for Android, or is that on hold?
18:28.45dcordesEdLin: cotulla works on that
18:28.55dcordesEdLin: but you have to sign an NDA to get extra info
18:29.32EdLindcordes:I don't do NDAs.
18:29.36jonprywhat is the eta on nand for hd2?
18:29.41LeTamahi dcordes!
18:29.51dcordesLeTama: Hi there
18:29.51LeTamadcordes: have you seen that ?
18:29.52LeTamahttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Xdandroid
18:30.06dcordesLeTama: Nice !
18:30.10LeTamadcordes: text is ok for you ?
18:30.30dcordesLeTama: Awesome I have to try that asap
18:30.33MNjonpry not sure yet
18:30.40jonpryi was j/k
18:30.43EdLindcordes: I assume you were joking, this isn't Apple, is it?
18:30.44MNoh lol
18:30.53dcordesnods
18:31.18LeTamadcordes: good, you'll be the first one to test it then. I did compile but didn't check result yet
18:31.25gauner1986letama: nice :)
18:31.36LeTamadcordes: the manifest I mean
18:32.15LeTamadcordes: to compile, you will have to patch liblights, xdandroid doesn't have LIGHT_ID_DUALLED, LIGHT_ID_CAPSFUNC, LIGHT_ID_JOGBALL
18:32.23LeTamadcordes: just comment stuff there
18:32.38gauner1986LeTama: you just need to add these in the header file
18:32.55LeTamagauner1986: in liblights?
18:32.56gauner1986dan1j3l forgot to commit that
18:33.01LeTamagauner1986: ah, ok
18:33.35gauner1986it are string values
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18:33.43gauner1986i'll check what i have
18:33.53l_wow i see android in my phone :) :) i guess i messed up in my previous attempts
18:34.11LeTamagauner1986: ok, thanks...
18:34.27l_i see a black screen saying android
18:34.54l_wow
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18:37.23gauner1986#define LIGHT_ID_CAPSFUNC"capsfunc"
18:37.23gauner1986#define LIGHT_ID_JOGBALL"jogball"
18:37.23gauner1986#define LIGHT_ID_DUALLED"dualled"
18:37.27gauner1986@LeTama
18:37.39LeTamagauner1986: got it, thanks!
18:37.39gauner1986in hardware\libhardware\include\hardware
18:37.45gauner1986lights.h
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18:39.45LeTamal_: de-activate pin code in windows ce before launching android
18:39.58l_ohh ok
18:40.04l_ty
18:40.16LeTamal_:np
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18:42.41uriahheepello
18:43.16uriahheepi'm trying to port http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/speex/speexclient/ to my vogue, and i'm basing myself on playwav2.c
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18:43.52uriahheephowever, i'm at line 148 of speexclient.c and i'm not sure what to replace the alsa-related file descriptor stuff with
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18:45.28uriahheepbzo: perhaps you would know?
18:45.52jonpryuriahheep: the latest kernels have alsa support built in. so you do not need playwav2 per se. just aplay or arecord
18:46.01jonpryor maybe speex client
18:46.05uriahheepjonpry: vogue 2.6.32?
18:46.10jonpryoh
18:46.15uriahheep;)
18:46.40bzono idea, maybe you have me confused with dzo?
18:46.46uriahheepperhaps ;)
18:46.57uriahheephe doesn't hang around here, does he
18:47.07uriahheepsorry about the mixup
18:47.09bzohaven't seen him here in a long time
18:48.18uriahheepdoes anyone here know something about the vogue's audio?
18:49.59bzoyou would probably have better luck finding vogue devs at xda-developers or ppcgeeks
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18:51.57uriahheepbzo: alright, thanks
18:58.28WisTilt2jonpry: you still at the kbd?
18:58.47uriahheepbzo: if one looks at alsa_device.c in the speexclient code, though, all that alsa_device_nfds does is...
18:58.57uriahheepreturn dev->writeN+dev->readN;
19:01.36PohketBy default, does android vibrate on ring when in silent mode?
19:02.44MNi dont think it does
19:05.54PohketThat's good - one less thing I broke then =)
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19:08.31jonprywistilt2: i am here
19:09.44WisTilt2hey you dont happen to know off the top of your head whre micropklt suspend/resume is trigger from do you?
19:10.18jonprynot really. working on keyboard lights still?
19:10.53WisTilt2yeah got most working but suspend seems to be clearing something and they dont come back on unless reboot
19:11.14WisTilt2blue light staying on all the time and didnt touch it intentionally also.
19:11.34jonpryi'm pretty sure that a9 takes over microp now and then. so it might be up to you to get it back to normal after a resume
19:12.14WisTilt2yeah sounds right.  need to get the suspend source located to i can see what that routine is doing.
19:15.55jonprylooks like pm.c
19:17.07jonprythen there is arch_idle() which determines if the processor has been idling some percentage of time. and it does things like slow down a9, and kill a11, lol
19:18.11camrodoes anyone know from where this can come from ?
19:18.11camrodalvikvm-heap(  684): 15936-byte external allocation too large for this process.
19:18.11camroGraphicsJNI(  684): VM won't let us allocate 15936 bytes
19:18.11camroJavaBinder(  684): *** Uncaught remote exception!  (Exceptions are not yet supported across processes.)
19:18.11camroJavaBinder(  684): java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: bitmap size exceeds VM budget
19:18.12camroJavaBinder(  684): at android.graphics.Bitmap.nativeCreateFromParcel(Native Method)
19:18.28camrois this also JIT related ?
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19:24.15WisTilt2jonpry: thanks, that looks like where i need to do some testing in pm.c
19:26.16WisTilt2jonpry: is phh on vacation? i should have lights done this weekend and need him to commit it.
19:26.46WisTilt2might have them done today if people around here would stop bugging me lol. at office i mean
19:27.17l_not sure what to say about android. a bit disapointing at least on my p3300
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19:27.46jonprywistilt2: just go nand. don't need phh
19:28.41l_im in console but keyboard disaper and i cant send entre command
19:28.47l_<PROTECTED>
19:29.35l_i guess it need a phone fater with keys
19:29.42l_faster
19:29.44WisTilt2jonpry: should be fixed in both shouldn't it?  people are still going to haret boot im sure.  unless you guys make nand superior:)
19:29.48jonprywistilt2: are your wireless products ISM band?
19:30.22gnutoojonpry, hi any news or git repo to follow about alsa on your device?
19:30.41WisTilt2yes our real high speed stuff is, up to 50mbps.  all on 5ghz, no 2.4 stuff anymore.
19:31.06jonprygnutoo, i managed to mostly break it
19:31.15gnutoothe device or the code?
19:31.22jonprythe code
19:31.24gnutoook
19:31.28jonprynothing useful atm
19:31.32gnutooso rebase broke
19:31.40gnutoook
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19:31.51bzoWisTilt2: phh mentioned he was going to be busy for a week. When he or acl gets back, one of them can commit for you
19:32.08jonprywistilt2: so you are able to reprogram qdsp4 and a9 to do something totally not gprs/edge/3g/ etc
19:32.33WisTilt2bzo: ok thanks. ill have to get jonpry the fixes for lights first then.  nand will be first now:)
19:33.04jonprygnutoo: mmap broke alsa in rhobuntu. but made it make terrible noises under debian
19:33.31bzowho would of thought - nand pulling ahead of haret
19:33.32WisTilt2jonpry: no, our wirelesss service for low speed (up to 3-5mbps) uses our other equipment, mostly mobile, on 3g.
19:33.40gnutoojonpry, yes I know
19:33.57gnutoojonpry, that's because you use some alsa extensions
19:34.05WisTilt2we have high speed fixed and low speed mobile service.
19:34.10gnutootry plain alsa
19:34.14gnutoowith mplayer
19:34.25jonpryi did that just freezes
19:34.33gnutooso remove mmap
19:34.41gnutoobut I can see big buck bunny with mmap
19:34.44jonprythen it just freezes
19:34.44gnutooat 8000Hz
19:34.56gnutoomplayer freexe
19:34.58gnutoook
19:34.59l_how do i turn on keyboard?
19:35.02gnutoouse my patches then
19:35.08gnutooI solved the mplayer block
19:35.13gnutooat FRAMEI something
19:35.21jonpryyeah, i just don't see how this is so complicated
19:35.36gnutooeven worse, they abused the API so no upstream
19:35.43gnutooand mark brown is indisponible at that hours
19:35.50gnutooI should have asked my question sooner
19:35.53jonpryor why it is broke. i kind of like dmix because it lets you force a buffering setup from userspace
19:36.08gnutooremove dmix if you use mmap
19:36.15gnutooand remove it if you don't use mmap too
19:36.32jonprydmix is only hope
19:36.56gnutoowhy?
19:37.39jonprybecause it lets you decouple the buffer from the application a little. that is why it will play without your patches
19:38.02gnutoook
19:38.22gnutoohow can I reproduce your dmix setup?
19:38.30gnutoodmix with hw plug?
19:38.58jonpryjust install those packages. modern alsa userspace will try to autoconfig dmix
19:39.08gnutoook
19:39.50jonpryjust have to specify you want to use it with -ao alsa:driver=dmix or whatever. aplay -L will give you a list
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19:42.11l_my kernel version is 2.6.25 is this old?
19:42.58l_has at lest 6 monyhs i think
19:43.01MNtp2 guys seem to be taking over lol
19:44.16l_MN,  whats ur kernel version?
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19:45.26MNthe one ending in.32 i think
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19:47.41l_MN,  is that recent?
19:48.00MNyes i think so it is used on the desire
19:49.18l_its dam disapointing for me with my crap p3300
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19:49.50gnutoojonpry, thanks a lot!!!!!! I tied -vo sdl!!!!!
19:49.52gnutoooops
19:49.54gnutoo-ao sdl
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19:50.16l_im gona try  an android simulator to see
19:50.18jonprydoes it work?
19:51.13gnutoomplayer -vo dga -ao sdl bbb_44100.mkv is perfect
19:51.22gnutoothat's without mmap
19:51.33MN~seen mavy
19:51.42aptmavy <~Mavy@5ED0C9C0.cable.ziggo.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 9d 5h 1m 59s ago, saying: 'MN, no sadly not. i am waiting for a device i can connect to jtag to figure out what is missing in the kernel. I pretty sure we are missing some hardware init stuff'.
19:51.58jonprygnutoo: how is sdl setup?
19:52.36jonpryexport SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa
19:52.36jonpryexport AUDIODEV=plug:dmix?
19:52.38gnutooI don't know
19:52.50gnutooI just came across that: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Mplayer_%28Howto%29
19:52.57gnutooI'll echo theses vars
19:53.21gnutoothe vars are not exported
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19:57.44camroji jonpry - how is going ?
19:58.04jonprygood. you get your volume crash fixed?
19:58.13camrono,
19:58.25camroi will wait for your commit, before going on with that ..
19:58.40camromaybe - you have an idea ,,, i have very often crashes ...
19:58.41camrodalvikvm-heap( 2533): 75336-byte external allocation too large for this process.
19:58.41camroGraphicsJNI( 2533): VM won't let us allocate 75336 bytes
19:58.41camroJavaBinder( 2533): *** Uncaught remote exception!  (Exceptions are not yet supported across processes.)
19:58.41camroJavaBinder( 2533): java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: bitmap size exceeds VM budget
19:58.58jonprysounds like you are out of memory
19:59.03camrois this JIT related ?
19:59.14jonpryi doubt it
19:59.33camrohmm - swapon will not hep - or ?
20:00.17jonpryit might. depends on why it is out of memory. there are per processes limits. and total limits that may be less than the amount of real/virtual memory available
20:01.15camroanyway - must analyse it ... - how is going about your sound baby ?
20:02.10jonprylooks pretty good to me. need some code cleanup. pohket says somethings are broke, but nobody else has confirmed. might wait for bug reports
20:02.38camropossible to help on testing ?
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20:03.04camroa lot of parts are also for another devices ...
20:03.34gnutoojonpry, I'll look, maybe putting pulse on top of it could be a good idea, not sure
20:03.45camroi'm also waiting, that phh commit some fixes which he got ...
20:05.25camroand next part ....video/camera ... this will be the next on my list ... maybe a huge baby ..
20:05.32camrohow is about the camera on rhod ?
20:06.50jonpryi have never tried. supposedly power is on but userland drivers do not work or some such thing. there are better kernel drivers but they require and upgrade of the kernel version
20:09.51jonprygnutoo: pulse! that is some dangerous stuff
20:10.55jonprypulse doesn't even work on my quad core machine
20:10.58Triskelioskeep that crap far away from embedded systems
20:11.40jonpryi bet flash player has an embedded pulse audio server
20:14.37jonprygnutoo: can you play your video full screen? i can only get like 2fps if i go bigger than 320x240
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20:23.11gnutoojonpry, yes fullscreen
20:23.15gnutoo-vo dga
20:23.17gnutoompeg1
20:23.21gnutoopre-rotated
20:23.23gnutooetc..
20:23.27gnutoobut it plays fullscreen
20:23.33gnutoomaybe mpeg2 works too
20:23.35gnutooI must try
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20:25.43jonpryi was using a divx movie. decoding doesn't seem to be a problem, just moving pixels. you do have a lower res display no?
20:26.31hamagcbzo: have you submitted your camera work yet?
20:27.45gnutoojonpry, higher than you
20:27.50gnutooI'll give you the params
20:28.08bzohamagc: nah, I've been stuck on getting it working
20:28.22gnutoohttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player#htcdream
20:28.33hamagcany new news on it?
20:28.37gnutoosrate 8000 is not needed anymore
20:28.46hamagci'm curious to see if the g1 drivers will work, i believe it's the same camera
20:29.15bzoI've been using those drivers, both in the kernel and userland
20:29.42hamagcdamn, guess it won't be as easy as copy and paste lol.
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20:30.28bzoI think there's still some low level problem to figure out, probably in qdsp5
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20:31.56jonprydo you have mt9t013?
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20:33.22bzoyeah, on my diam500, think it is the same on the tp2
20:33.37hamagcshould be the same on tp1,2,diam
20:35.42hamagchttp://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/staging/dream/camera/?v=2.6.32
20:35.47hamagcincase there is anytihng useful
20:35.50jonprythats good. hope you get it working then
20:36.18bzonow that the dsp seems to be working, I'll probably give it a try on the tp2 next
20:36.46bzowasn't sure if I ever found the right offset for the qcamtask on the diam500
20:36.58jonprywe don't have that on rhod either
20:37.13LordDeathmy provider is so kickass 8-) http://mirror.netcologne.de/
20:37.47bzojonpry: it is defined in structs, but it is probably optimistic to think it is correct
20:39.01jonpryif wistilt2 ever gets his lawyereze docs. then he should be able to tell us the values for that table
20:39.08hamagc0x0106dd8f???
20:40.38bzolet's hope WisTilt2 can get that stuff released. The magic number guesswork thing is such a waste of time and effort
20:40.55hamagclol you don't like trial and error? more error than trial
20:41.42bzoalternatively we can all became expert arm disassemblers
20:41.55bzomy feeble attempts at it have gained me no insight
20:42.34WisTilt2jonpry bzo: amen to that guys.  we already signed the papers and sent back to qc. just waiting for their signed copies back and we are good to go.
20:43.02bzoglad to hear it WisTilt2!
20:43.07hamagcdef!
20:43.26WisTilt2you know how legal stuff is, lawyers like to drag feet to run up that billed time.
20:43.45WisTilt2took us nearly 3 months to get our 1st nda with them!
20:52.32TripknotixWisTilt2 with who
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21:46.19kindredhello, someone know if leviathan has a blog/website.
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22:11.46dcordeskindred, hello what information are you  looking for ?
22:11.56dcordes~seen jonpry
22:11.58aptjonpry <~jonpry@63.245.31.4> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 1h 32m 57s ago, saying: 'if wistilt2 ever gets his lawyereze docs. then he should be able to tell us the values for that table'.
22:12.10dcordesphh: did you see leviathan and gnutoo have fixed the dream alsa problems ?
22:12.25dcordesphh: AFAIR you had similar problems like them on rhod & friends
22:12.29dcordesgnutoo: ping ?
22:12.39gnutoodcordes, not fixed,found a workarround
22:12.48dcordesah sorry I didn't read the log.. well it can't be repeated enough
22:12.51dcordesvery nice
22:16.33dcordesis so done
22:16.40dcordesgood night
22:20.05l_cya merry critmas all.i wish we all get android phones for cristmas  :)
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22:30.11kindredI was looking to a sort of follow up more readable than the git log, or perhaps a little why the linux compliant kernel.
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22:34.21[acl]who der?
22:34.43WisTilt2hey vacation going good?
22:35.00[acl]WisTilt2: it is .. except the connection sucks
22:35.13[acl]cant even load a speed test page to see whats going on
22:35.14[acl]lol
22:35.24WisTilt2well you missed party.  3d, sound, everything working nice!
22:35.29[acl]cant read logs either.. not sure wy
22:35.35[acl]WisTilt2 woa .. when was this
22:35.58WisTilt2:) j/k - you aren't supposed to go on vacation until this stuffs done!
22:36.03[acl]ahaha
22:36.18WisTilt2I do think jonpry has sound working on nand though
22:36.19[acl]fuk u hand me too
22:36.33[acl]yeah i spole to wozz bout that..
22:36.49[acl]i wanted to work more on usb but i cant with this connection
22:36.52WisTilt2i have lights working but have to fix the sleep that keeps clearing them where they wont come back on til reboot.
22:37.00[acl]plus my gf will probably stab me if i do
22:37.23[acl]WisTilt2: so pm kills lights and they dont come back?
22:37.28[acl]clocks issue?
22:37.33WisTilt2when im done with lights this weekend im going to start looking at usb.
22:38.11WisTilt2no, lights are getting cleared from the micropklt suspend, just need to code around it to keep the clearing from happening.
22:38.45[acl]ahh
22:39.00WisTilt2after sleep, no lights or leds come back on til you reboot.
22:39.30WisTilt2also, blue light is stuck on all the time so have to figure out what thats about since i didnt touch that intentionally.
22:39.57[acl]WisTilt2: ill handle usb, what we need help on on both nand and haret version is power management. Right now when the device supposed to sleep.. looks like the backlight iis still on. WoZZeR knows the issue
22:40.29[acl]unless you got some really want usb then ill try pm
22:41.20WisTilt2ok i can do that.  i noticed that the power down/reboot back into winmo is broke now also, did work before.  ill take a look at power stuff. going to browse usb though because i want it working so i can network to it to do some of this testing.
22:42.15WisTilt2power should be easy. usb going to be tougher but doable.
22:42.37bzoWisTilt2: I think the power down without rebooting was changed on purpose
22:42.39uriahheephey, does anyone want to take a look at a port of speexclient i made for my vogue?
22:43.00WisTilt2ok i have to run for about an hour.  if dont catch you this weekend, have a great vacation and rest your brain so it will be fresh!
22:43.12uriahheepi'd like someone to review it before i give it a try, heh, since this is like my 2nd attempt at writing / porting / hacking C code in my life
22:43.25uriahheeppatch: http://pastebin.ca/1932033 / c file: http://pastebin.ca/1932042
22:43.32WisTilt2bzo: really why?
22:43.57bzoI think there are separate power down and reboot functions in android
22:44.05bzothough we don't seem to show the reboot option
22:44.15bzoinitially, the power down was mapped to reboot
22:44.21bzobecause trying to power down hung the device
22:44.26bzoso the reboot was just a hack
22:44.56bzothe recent change had to do with a new method found to power down that didn't hang the device
22:45.07WisTilt2ah, i need to check that out.  ok got to run and will bb in about an hour.
22:46.26[acl]WisTilt2: how bout we concentrate on 3d ? :-) need it man.. the crowd is thirsty for it
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23:19.46montraydavisHello.. :)
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23:21.48montraydavisI have a question. Has anyone worked on MMS support ?
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