IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100824

00:00.02Ondalfis there also different payments for non-tether and tether use for cell?
00:00.22Cassgauner1986, its on my phone
00:00.26gauner1986pff.. not in germany.. i guess
00:00.47Cassdcordes, http://szym.net/android/adhoc-wpa-supp.html
00:01.00gauner1986would suck..
00:01.15Ondalfgauner1986: not in finland too. i heard USA had an exception in this matter afaik. dunno anymore tho
00:02.06Ondalfheh, i still got a bill from Sept 2008 which says 1.6GB data used in month and it was over EDGE mostly
00:02.14CassOndalf, yeah same in the uk, some carriers want payment for tethering
00:02.20gauner1986lol
00:02.22Cassiphone on o2 is a prime example
00:02.32Cassbut another crap phone on o2 you can do what you like :_)
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00:02.34gauner1986i would hack it somehow
00:02.48gauner1986just out of my principles..
00:02.55OndalfCass: is that passable? like gauner said
00:03.28Ondalflike just launching ICS from winmo phone?
00:03.34Cassto have iphone for free tether ?
00:03.46Ondalfor any phone?
00:04.12Ondalfdoes data go via certain proxy or how its moderated?
00:04.18Cassyeah just use a tether app .. they will never know unless they inspect packets and see you really go to full pages instead of mobile
00:04.33Cassits all marketing id suspect to get cash from the non geeks
00:04.37dcordesCass: thanks I added that in the wiki
00:04.37gauner1986cass: yeah.. how would they be able to detect if you're tethering or not, if not through a special apn or a special app?
00:05.00Ondalfah, but isn't that kinda against laws of persons privacy?
00:05.17dcordeshow is the GPS turned on in hd2 ?
00:05.25Ondalfsniffing packets
00:05.28CassOndalf, scare tactics .. but hey they own the network they can inspect traffic if they like
00:05.29gauner1986dcordes: yes
00:05.36gauner1986dcordes: gps works on android
00:05.46Cassdcordes, we press a button
00:05.50Cassit comes on
00:05.54Cassno magic
00:06.05gauner1986just starting a gps app is sufficient
00:06.07gauner1986:P
00:06.25dcordeshehe
00:06.26Cassunless you have gps disabled like me :P
00:06.29OndalfCass: does EULA cover it so they can do whatever with your information that flows into phone?
00:06.39Casseula matters not in the uk
00:06.44Cassthats an amer thing
00:06.50gauner1986^^
00:06.57tmzthuh??
00:07.02gauner1986i think eula isn't accepted in the whole eu
00:07.12Cassat the end of the day when you take a contract out you abide by it, the network decides what you do
00:07.17Ondalferr, everything has end user license agreement of something
00:07.18Cassgauner1986, yep
00:07.33Casseula does not apply in eu
00:07.49Casswe cannot be held to a contract withought signing nothing
00:07.51dcordesthe question is, what is calling the mechanism that will result in data being output on /dev/smd27
00:08.07dcordeswhich is not permanently the case
00:08.16gauner1986cass: nah.. phone contracts are also possible :P
00:08.31gauner1986dcordes: rpc?
00:08.33Cassgauner1986, yeah but those are not eula
00:08.35Ondalfwhen you agree into contract, you also get terms of service
00:08.52Ondalfor w/e its called
00:09.21Cassdcordes, i imagin kernel opens smd* for gps then libhardware tells droid to use that interface for data
00:09.28Ondalfdo they have sniffing things informed there?
00:09.54gauner1986kernel has no gps code at all
00:09.55Cassnah doubt it .. never heard a case over here of someone being demanded to pay for using a pc
00:10.23Cassgauner1986, smd_tty sets up smd interefaces
00:10.29gauner1986yes
00:10.36Cassthats kernel
00:10.42Cassor did i miss your point
00:10.54gauner1986nah i just wanted to say that it has no gps-related code
00:10.54gauner1986^^
00:11.06gauner1986it's all done on userspace
00:11.06Cassahh ok .. yeah its lib_hw id guess
00:11.08gauner1986by rpc calls
00:12.35Cassdcordes, gps works in ubuntu ?
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00:14.14dcordesCass: that's the question. if you just read from the serial channel and you get the NMEA data then it's no problem to use GPS in non-android
00:14.20dcordesbut I doubt that
00:14.28dcordesafaik it's a fucking hassle on dream
00:14.47gauner1986dcordes: i fear you would have to emulate that serial channel
00:15.00dcordesgauner1986: emulate the serial channel  can you elaborate ?
00:15.31gauner1986dcordes: the way winmo does it for example.. provide a comport for gps and let nmea data be transferred over it to the apps
00:15.51gauner1986where you do rpc calls behind the scenes
00:17.14dcordesI think we have to do distinction of controlling and just reading the data
00:24.00gauner1986gps is controlled via nmea commands normally?
00:24.06gauner1986dont have a clue about it really
00:25.49dcordesCONFIG_USB_ANDROID_PROJECTOR
00:25.57dcordeswhat is it ?
00:26.15gauner1986Markinus said it includes a modded msm fb driver..
00:26.21gauner1986dunno..
00:26.47dcordeshttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=drivers/usb/gadget/f_projector.c;h=c61180770b5e6d2cbcd1e9906f4ca6d32b0ec81d;hb=766a01523d6394e41657f2920c12b9a47d25d303
00:27.42gauner1986cass: replacing libandroid_runtime.so resolved the problem
00:27.56dcordesdoess this server for external display purposes ?
00:27.58Casscool so you now have tether ?
00:28.01gauner1986and libhardware_legacy.so
00:28.04gauner1986no
00:28.08gauner1986another error
00:28.09gauner1986:D
00:28.16dcordesit uses msm_fb code
00:28.20gauner1986but android doesnt restart anymore
00:28.31gauner1986dcordes: i think so
00:28.39gauner1986ah ok
00:28.39Cassdcordes id presume its support for the phones with build in projectors
00:28.41gauner1986phone froze
00:28.42gauner1986:D
00:29.06dcordesCass: are there any ?
00:29.12gauner1986cass: your phone also froze?
00:29.16Casshttp://www.be-mine.info/cellular-phones/samsung-halo-i8520-projector-android-phone
00:29.24Cassgauner1986, yeah until i reboot
00:29.30Cassthen its never froze again
00:30.21dcordesCass: ok. no reason to exclude it in evo kernel
00:35.17gauner1986ok
00:35.19gauner1986tethering enabled
00:35.22dcordesI am wondering if we can make usb modes optional using modules
00:35.24gauner1986lets see if i can find sth
00:37.22gauner1986cant find it
00:37.23gauner1986:(
00:38.11dcordesrun airodump-ng on some extra client while experimenting
00:38.23gauner1986rofl
00:38.38gauner1986would be sweet if the aircrack suite would run on leo
00:38.59dcordesseriously, that way you won't have to see if you can find something manually all time.
00:39.55gauner1986E/SoftapController(  197): Softap set - function not supported
00:39.58gauner1986hmmm
00:41.00dcordesyou might have to set your interface to monitor mode manually
00:44.18gauner1986ah
00:44.19gauner1986<4>[  135.824415] wlan: wl0.1: set promisc 0 failed
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00:50.12Cassgauner1986, using an earlier version of the tether app i can see the network on hd2 and connect
00:50.25Cassfiguring out why data is not routing right now
00:50.29gauner1986hm
00:54.54gauner1986cass: do you get an ip and dns?
00:55.32Cassno
00:55.38Cassplaying with manual nw
00:55.40Cassnow
00:55.49Casscant see how id get an ip with no dhcp server
00:55.53dcordesCass: compare your .config with arch/arm/configs/mahimahi_defconfig and check for networking relevant differences
00:56.28gauner1986cass: there should be one
00:56.28Cassgauner1986, this version of the tether app uses adhoc network in iwconfig and the later versions use master mode
00:56.34gauner1986cass: dnsmasq
00:56.46Cassyeah thats dns
00:56.50Cassnot dhcp
00:56.51gauner1986also dhcp
00:56.54Cassreally ?
00:56.56Cassdidnt know that
00:56.56gauner1986it has both
00:56.58gauner1986yes
00:57.04Cassschool day :)
01:00.23dcordesCass: try a program that is known working on nexus
01:00.52dcordesbetter approach might be to set the master mode manually..
01:01.37gauner1986question is how..
01:01.46Cassiwconfig
01:01.55gauner1986there are wireless tools?
01:01.57Cassyep
01:02.10dcordesifconfig eth0 down
01:02.14gauner1986not on my phone
01:02.15dcordesiwconfig eth0 mode master
01:02.24dcordesgauner1986: use one of my initrds
01:02.28Cassthey are in xbin gauner
01:02.36Cassat least on mine
01:02.46gauner1986hm
01:02.46gauner1986not for me
01:03.01Cass<PROTECTED>
01:03.17dcordeswtf xbin
01:03.32Cass# iwconfig eth0
01:03.32Casseth0      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"hf2"  Nickname:""
01:03.32Cass<PROTECTED>
01:03.51dcordesCass: try to set it to master
01:04.20Cassyeah it didnt work at all in master in later builds of app .. i do as a est though
01:04.22Casstest
01:05.10CassError for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
01:05.16Cassyeah cant change
01:05.27dcordesok
01:05.53dcordesyou should figure how the tether google android program loads the module with different firmware
01:06.00dcordesmight just be modprobe paramter
01:06.20gauner1986hm
01:06.26dcordesI will give it a go too
01:06.30gauner1986can the firmware be set via param?
01:06.51gauner1986it's not loaded by hotplug on android..
01:07.14dcordeshm where's the ap firmware.bin ?
01:07.43gauner1986"/etc/firmware/fw_bcm4329_apsta.bin"
01:07.58dcordessomebody got a link ?
01:08.58gauner1986wait
01:09.44gauner1986http://htcleo.noobhands.net/gauner1986/fw_bcm4329_apsta.bin
01:10.40Cass2.05 version of tether app uses that fw .. 2.02 does not .. uses normal bcm4329.ko
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01:10.48Cassguess it has no master support
01:10.52gauner1986hm
01:11.07gauner1986i dont see any mention of that firmware file in logcat
01:11.12gauner1986while using htc's app
01:11.19dcordesgauner1986: thx
01:11.20Cassits in the tether app logs for me
01:12.39gauner1986i see <4>[ 2332.743934] wlan: wl0.1: set promisc 0 failed on dmesg though
01:12.47gauner1986which is not good i believe
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01:13.53Casswhy you want promisc mode ?  you trying to snoop traffic ?
01:14.09gauner1986i guess the ap app wants it
01:14.24Cassweird
01:14.45Cassis your interface wl0 ?
01:14.50Cassnot eth0 ?
01:15.07gauner1986wl0.1
01:15.12gauner1986that if is up
01:15.17Casshmm
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01:16.28Cassyeah i see no traffic on layer 3 for ip etc
01:16.40Cassneed to d/l a wifi sniffer see what up
01:17.10gauner1986lucky that you're a networking guy arent we?
01:17.11gauner1986:P
01:19.49Cass:-)
01:20.28Cassyou can check too with tcpdump -i wl0.1
01:22.53gauner1986nothing
01:24.16gauner1986but i fear this is a driver issue
01:24.20Cassthis ap software is fooked .. kismac shows the traffic all over the place
01:24.20gauner1986[kosh] needed
01:24.30Cassthinks its got no crypto then wpa
01:24.39Cassthen its flipping channels
01:25.50Cassgauner1986, LeTama needed, its his driver :)
01:25.59gauner1986or letama :)
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01:38.06Cassgauner1986, wonder if it makes a diff that in the kernel we have
01:38.06CassCONFIG_BCM4329_204=m
01:38.07CassCONFIG_BCM4329_SOFTAP=y
01:38.17Cassand the evo does not have _204
01:38.45Casscould we need a CONFIG_BCM4329_204_SOFTAP ?
01:39.01gauner1986mine has
01:39.06Cassyeah ?
01:39.06gauner1986_204
01:39.09Cassmine does not
01:39.16Cass204_SOFTAP ?
01:40.17gauner1986hm
01:40.21Cassive removed the tether app and have moved on to froyos one .. and it seems to die for me
01:40.22CassD/SoftapController( 1543): Softap driver stop: 0
01:40.22CassE/SoftapController( 1543): Softap fwReload - function not supported
01:40.34Cassso i conclude we dont have softap support in _204
01:41.53Casscass@VMHP:~/htcleo-32/kernel$ find . -name *softap*
01:41.54Cass./include/config/bcm4329/softap.h
01:42.08Casshmm no softapp.h in _204 .. may not be needed .. ill look
01:42.52gauner1986i have it checked in my kernel
01:42.58gauner1986204_SOFTAP
01:43.40Cassbut does 204 have support .. im not sure
01:43.52gauner1986why not?
01:44.24dcordesok
01:44.33Cassok it does .. i typod
01:44.33dcordesrmmod bcm4329
01:44.41Cassmy .config does not have it _204
01:45.05dcordesmodprobe bcm4329 firmware_path=/wheres/my/apsta.bin
01:45.10dcordesifconfig eth0 down
01:45.14dcordesiwconfig eth0 mode master
01:45.16dcordestada
01:45.24dcordes~praise modinfo
01:45.25aptAll hail modinfo!
01:45.28dcordesgood night
01:45.30Casshaha
01:45.31Cassnn
01:46.03gauner1986night
01:46.56Cass#ifdef CONFIG_BCM4329_SOFTAP
01:46.56Cassstatic int ap_mode = 0;
01:47.12Cassthats from wl_iw.c
01:47.55Cassneed to put it as is not set i think
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01:52.17Cassok compiling .. see what happens
01:52.26gauner1986curious
01:53.11gauner1986dcordes said he's able to change to mastermode?
01:53.29Cassyeah
01:54.59gauner1986he doesnt have anything changed in _204
01:55.06gauner1986so i wonder if a change is even needed..
01:56.39Casswell the ifdef seems to impy disable ap mode if softap is set
01:56.51Cassi dunno .. see in a mo if it makes a diff
01:56.57gauner1986ok
01:57.19Cassrebooting
01:57.55Cassnot sure master mode is enough though to set it as an ap in droid
01:58.18Cassi had that in wireless tether app and it was not scannable
01:58.25Cassadhoc was though
01:58.32Cassnone would accept packets
01:58.35Casslakey
01:58.36gauner1986hm
01:58.38Cassflakey
02:02.26Cassfalied
02:02.31gauner1986hm
02:02.32Casssimilar messages
02:02.36gauner1986dmesg?
02:02.39Casseth0 not tetherable
02:04.33gauner1986hm
02:04.41gauner1986maybe we need to try dcordes method
02:04.55gauner1986and see if we're even able to set mastermode
02:05.38Casshttp://pastebin.com/RLLNpqaj
02:05.44Cassill try to manually set now
02:08.02CIA-109htc-linux: lukas htc-msm-2.6.32 * rv2.6.29-38163-geed82a0 /arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcleo-power.c:
02:08.02CIA-109htc-linux: htcleo: fix usb host mode
02:08.02CIA-109htc-linux: This fixes a compile problem and re-enables USB host detection by
02:08.02CIA-109htc-linux: disabling gpio USB mode detection in power driver while using usbhost_defconfig.
02:08.02CIA-109htc-linux: It would be nice to find a way to charge and use usb host at the same time.
02:08.03CIA-109htc-linux: lukas htc-msm-2.6.32 * rv2.6.29-38162-g63c41b5 /arch/arm/configs/htcleo-usbhost_defconfig: htcleo: usbhost config: add some networking items (tun, iptables..)
02:15.10Cassgauner1986, http://pastebin.com/6QpCAC7T
02:16.50gauner1986hmm
02:17.02gauner1986so it maybe loads the wrong firmware
02:17.10Cassinteresting part is wl_iw
02:17.19Casswrong fw how ?
02:17.26Cassfw is defined by kernel
02:17.38Cassi copied the ap fw to normal bcm name
02:17.48gauner1986i know.. that's why i think that
02:17.53Cass??
02:17.53gauner1986because mode master succeeded
02:18.00gauner1986not in your case
02:18.03gauner1986in general
02:18.04gauner1986i mean
02:18.06Cassit did in my case
02:18.11Cassi have master mode
02:18.16gauner1986yes
02:18.25Cassok
02:18.44Cassso you try copy the fw to normal bcm name
02:18.47Cassthen launch gui
02:18.56Cassyou still have orig .config in place
02:19.24Cassbut i think there is more to it
02:19.33Cassmissing support somewhere
02:20.17gauner1986hm
02:20.25gauner1986we should ask letama or [kosh] tomorrow
02:20.28Cassyeah
02:20.29gauner1986i need some sleep now
02:20.34Cassmee too .. nn
02:20.37gauner1986n8
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02:34.31jonpryWoZZeR, so i went through all the logs. and i see it enable poweramp, but never any other gpio
02:36.55WoZZeRhmmm
02:37.33jonpryi also tried running our little test application on my non nand setup, with no luck
02:37.46WoZZeRwhich test app?
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02:39.55jonprythe adc3001 driver
02:43.31jonpryproblem might be microp
02:47.41jonpryin general stuff does not make sense. vial seems to be able to talk to adc3001 just fine. then kernel cannot
02:49.00WoZZeRjonpry: don't know if this matters, but bit 320 in the feature mask is F_GPIO_30_bit
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02:52.33jonpryi have no idea what that means
02:52.56WoZZeRok
02:53.01WoZZeRsaw it in the nvram
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03:24.55theredundantlatest kernel almost blew my phone up
03:25.00theredundantwas chargining overnight
03:25.10theredundantchecked phone 6 hrs later, 60C
03:25.11theredundant:O
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04:46.28gpcDoes anybody know how which file controls the compass in kernel?
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05:02.14[acl]WoZZeR: sup dood
05:02.19[acl]jonpry: how goes it
05:02.25WoZZeR[acl]: got an interview tomorrow, about to pass out
05:02.38[acl]ahh ... any good progress ?
05:02.47WoZZeRnot really
05:03.09[acl]same here.. my usb theory failed.. but im not done yet
05:03.41WoZZeRwhat was the theory?
05:04.12[acl]i wanted to use rpc to enable usb.. there are 3 calls we can use
05:04.20[acl]but non-nand usb is kinda broken
05:04.31WoZZeRnand usb is broken as well
05:04.40[acl]i mean
05:04.40WoZZeRbut maybe for different reasons
05:04.46[acl]non-nand rpc
05:04.48[acl]oops
05:04.48[acl]lol
05:04.51WoZZeRlol
05:05.24[acl]any news on incall sound from jonpry?
05:06.25WoZZeRhe has lots of vial data
05:06.27WoZZeRfrom what I hear
05:07.08jonpryhey acl
05:07.14[acl]jonpry: sup dood..
05:07.21jonprysituation is not good!
05:07.24[acl]fuck
05:07.45jonpryright
05:07.45[acl]jonpry: just crazyness ?
05:08.13jonprywavedev isn't doing any turning on any gpio other than poweramp
05:08.26jonpryweird thing is that wince i2c is a bit banger
05:08.47jonprybut it seems to work for initing adc3001. so chip is on?
05:09.14[acl]interesting
05:09.28jonpryi can't tell if the bit banger is checking for acks, but assuming it does. then our i2c driver is fubar
05:10.04jonpryother thing is that is uses microp for something with the mic
05:10.39jonprycould potentially be our reset pin, but the driver seems to work with/with out microp. so i'm guessing it is just that stupid light for speakerphone
05:10.46[acl]damn.. this is looking like an uphill battle
05:11.12jonpryindeed
05:11.35jonprythere are newer i2c drivers in code aurora that fix some potentially serious i2c issues
05:11.45jonprybut i can't get the phone to boot with it
05:11.46[acl]wanna port em over ?
05:11.49[acl]ahh
05:12.10jonprysure, i think that is a good plan. either that or write a bit banger
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05:12.47jonpryany idea how to get ramconsole working?
05:13.12[acl]hmm.. should ask the hd2 guys how they did it
05:13.18[acl]no clues ..
05:13.28[acl]u going nand soon ?
05:13.55jonpryit might be a good idea to try writing the bit banger in userland and see if we can really talk to adc3001. then porting it to kernel could hopefully be strait forward
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05:14.41WoZZeR[acl]: jonpry: night guys
05:14.48jonpryttyl
05:14.48[acl]WoZZeR: good luck dood..
05:14.51WoZZeRthx
05:15.11[acl]jonpry: there is no plan b? lol.. something easier
05:15.38jonprythere should be a bit banger i2c driver in the kernel no?
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05:16.02[acl]oo u gave me a good idea.. did u check the eris code for any thing that migth help?
05:16.09[acl]finding alot of good ideas in there
05:16.14jonpryyou could run my vial contraption to init the chips, but i have no idea if incall sound can work after that assault
05:16.47jonpryi think that is what i have now
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05:17.41[acl]its fucked up how we can set the volume but not turn that thing on
05:18.12jonpry?
05:18.17jonpryspeaker amp works fine
05:21.06jonpryit would be cool if we could boot with msm-i2c and then test a gpio i2c after panel is up
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05:21.40[acl]u think wistilt can help in this situation?
05:22.14jonpryno, not at all
05:22.25jonpryhe doesn't have any tp2 info, just qualcomm
05:24.03[acl]i need to hunt down other devs who did nand and see what they did. I mean there were talks about raph and diam nand.. im sure they ran into the same issue
05:24.21jonprythere is a drivers/i2c/busses/i2c_gpio.c
05:24.38jonpryunfortunately there phones don't have dualmic or audience
05:24.52[acl]ahh audience
05:25.13jonprybut right now we are on dualmic
05:25.38jonpryi think we are kind of paving new ground here
05:26.23[acl]its all new ground with the tp2
05:28.19[acl]i dont get how there is like just a few guys deving the kernel but like everyone and their mother makes "a rom"
05:28.27[acl]everywhere i look "new rom for tp2"
05:28.39[acl]wtf is so new about it if we are stuck in the same boat
05:28.53jonpryalways more script kiddies than hackers
05:29.19[acl]they should spend their time learning haret ..lol.. get some good dumps here and there
05:29.48jonprythat would be cool. or pruning through massive mmutrace logs
05:29.56[acl]yeah .. just brute force
05:30.22[acl]time for another post on ppg ? lol.. haret pigs
05:30.46jonprywhich is kind of like my plan C. make an arm emulator for arm. then boot wince in it
05:31.33[acl]jonpry: sounds like tons of fun
05:31.46[acl]so you really think we shouldnt make a new branch?
05:31.59jonpryi figure if somebody went through the logs of such a thing, we would have all the necessary info
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05:32.44jonpryi guess it is fine. we really haven't made a single driver that has anything worth contributing
05:33.29jonprywant to try i2c-gpio?
05:34.15[acl]maybe after my rpc_hsusb abomination
05:34.38[acl]was usb always broke on the haret version too?
05:34.41jonpryany idea how i get the module included?
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05:34.58jonpryi've never gotten it to work. but i didn't try very hard
05:35.04[acl]jonpry: nope.. sounds like a phh question
05:35.24[acl]never gotten usb? i was under the assumption it worked.. but then again im never in android itself
05:36.14jonprycharging works
05:36.14jonpryand wifi. all i need
05:36.29[acl]ahh ic.. ok.. so wozzer doesnt even have charging
05:37.15jonpryi don't think that is a usb problem
05:37.43[acl]i should ask him.. im not sure of the isssue..
05:38.20[acl]anyways .. gotta get ready for bed.. we will talk tomorrow
05:38.22[acl]lata
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08:04.11Magnusriis anyone working on it?
08:04.34shu8imagnusri: google: android proxy
08:05.03Magnusrii have been looking for a couple of hours : /    doesn't work..
08:05.14shu8idunno then :|
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11:37.54HardDisk_WPdcordes, uh, any news on the suspend or NAND front the last 3 weeks?
11:39.02dcordesHardDisk_WP: afaik cotula was going to work on nand
11:39.40dcordesHardDisk_WP: actually I see no problem in activating nand. it might just be a matter of using the correct partition table
11:40.05HardDisk_WPkk
11:40.07dcordesHardDisk_WP: it's getting more tricky when it comes to booting Linux directly without the need to go to winmo first.
11:40.17HardDisk_WPyeah, thats what I meant^^
11:40.42HardDisk_WPbut the status table grew a lot greener :)
11:40.44dcordesthat's two things
11:41.31dcordesI don't understand this in the table
11:41.35dcordesProximity sensor  No Yes  No
11:41.53dcordesdoesn't make much sense
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11:43.29dcordestheredundant: not good I'm taking a look what went wrong :/
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11:50.45dcordeshm what about hardcoding LED status in battery driver ?
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11:52.16dcordesgpc: many device specific drivers are located ar arch/arm/mach-msm/
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11:52.38gpcokay
11:52.52dcordesgpc: looking at the Makefile in that directory you can check what is compiled for your device
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11:53.41dcordesdid anybody else experience problems with charging in the very latest git kernel ?
11:54.58dcordeshttp://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/zImage-20100824_043001-htcleo
11:55.23dcordesfor me usb detection works but theredundant said it wouldn't stop charging for him
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12:07.37dcordesluc__: you mean detection doesn't work for the m?
12:07.40dcordeshi Cass
12:11.59Casshi dcordes
12:12.09theredundantyo
12:12.16Cassyo
12:12.17theredundanti used 23rd aug kernel
12:12.21theredundantac charged for 6hours
12:12.24theredundantwoke up 60C temp phone.
12:12.30theredundantMADNESS I TELL YOUS
12:12.31Cassouch
12:12.41theredundantwas afraid it might blow up
12:12.47dcordes23rd..
12:13.06theredundantyeah
12:13.32dcordeshttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commit;h=e51cb9c975bb81ae498c286ff28efa89489c3b17
12:13.45dcordeshttp://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/zImage-20100823_123001-htcleo
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12:14.02theredundantim sure i used that
12:14.18dcordesluc__: can we please talk here
12:14.29dcordestheredundant: luc__ says it works for him
12:14.42theredundantweird then
12:14.47theredundanti changed builds/kernel now tho
12:14.49theredundantalls fine
12:14.55luc__ok
12:14.57theredundantjust saying, was a  scary moment for me
12:15.30luc__i have removed the charger at 97%
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12:15.56Cassall recent kernels for me stop charging at 99%
12:15.59dcordestheredundant: you are using http://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/zImage-20100824_043001-htcleo and it works ?
12:16.01Cassnever had an issue
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12:17.15luc__i remember there was a fix for charging stop
12:17.54luc__battery: hack to stop charging when full
12:18.02dcordesluc__: yes
12:18.03dcordes7 days ago
12:18.03dcordesSebastian Heinecke
12:18.05dcordeshtcleo: battery: hack to stop charging when full
12:18.07luc__yes
12:18.17luc__doesnt work then...
12:18.23dcordesit did work
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12:18.52dcordesif you look at the log there were some changes to usb
12:19.20dcordesI'm doing self test now
12:19.27dcordeswith the 24 kernel
12:19.54luc__i always charge my phone when off or in andro...but keeping eyes on phone :)
12:21.12dcordeslol
12:21.18dcordesif you look at the git log it's pretty clear
12:21.57dcordes42 hours ago markinus checked in the supsersonic usb gadget stack
12:22.04luc__what dcordes?
12:22.05dcordesthen noticed 26 hours ago
12:22.10dcordesthere is a bug and fixed it
12:22.31dcordesso people with ac charging problem grabbed kernel from that point
12:22.59luc__then people..dont charge the phone while you sleep..
12:23.30dcordesluc__: theredundant: please tell us your kernel version from broken zImage . you can look it up in android system info.
12:24.31luc__http://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/zImage-20100823_123001-htcleo my kernel
12:25.08luc__i never let the phone charge till 100% in android
12:27.13dcordesluc__: the problem is, that has only a date when it was compiled. please tell us the version
12:27.32luc__k
12:27.33luc__sec
12:27.42dcordes2.6.32.9-a2efd1a or so
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12:28.25luc__38161 #98
12:28.45luc__2.6.32.9
12:29.15dcordeswhere do you see #98 ?
12:29.29luc__end
12:29.53dcordesit should look like following
12:29.55luc__2.6.32.9-38161
12:30.02dcordesyes but something is missing
12:30.16dcordes2.6.32.9-38161-????????
12:30.26dcordes??? is the interesting bit
12:30.37luc__cl207528 test-keys
12:31.05luc__kernel vers or build vers
12:31.06luc__?
12:31.31GNUtoo|laptopbuild ver is #number
12:31.47luc__2.6.32.9-38161-ge51cb9c
12:31.55luc__ok?
12:31.58GNUtoo|laptopthat should be git ver?
12:32.15DuperManhmm... sorry for the build specific question, but is mattc 1.6 unrooted?
12:32.17DuperMan:(
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12:33.22dcordesluc__: 2.6.32.9-38161-ge51cb9c that looks right thanks
12:33.31luc__is git vers
12:33.47dcordesyeah
12:34.13slayernsso, dcordes, it is non-fixed vers right
12:34.16slayerns?
12:34.22slayernswithout markinus' ac charg fix
12:34.46dcordesslayerns: I am trying to locate the commit. you have it already ?
12:35.14slayernsnope
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12:35.36dcordescommit e51cb9c975bb81ae498c286ff28efa89489c3b17
12:35.36dcordesAuthor: Markinus <gitorious@markinus.de>
12:35.36dcordesDate:   Mon Aug 23 12:02:00 2010 +0200
12:35.36dcordeshtcleo: fixed AC charging problems
12:35.56slayerns-ge51cb9c,
12:36.09slayernswhere can this be matched?
12:36.15dcordesremove -g
12:36.33slayernshmm
12:36.36slayernsthen its bad
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12:36.47slayernsmarkinus couldn't fix it
12:36.51dcordestheredundant: can you also tell us your known broken charging revision ?
12:37.02dcordesslayerns: yes seems like it so we have battery toaster in git now
12:37.08slayerns:)
12:37.24slayernsseems cotulla is a little bit right:)
12:37.38dcordesslayerns: hm ?
12:37.47slayernsabout pushing broken patches
12:37.48slayernswithout test
12:37.58slayernsgit shouldn't be the place to test, should it?
12:38.51dcordesit is ok with me
12:39.12slayernseither way, we have to get along with it
12:40.23luc__for some peoples charging full in andro is 92% 95% 97%
12:40.51luc__thats why charging doesnt stop at 99^%
12:41.49theredundanthmmm
12:41.55dcordesluc__: a vague theoryas I have not seen such problems before supersonic USB patch
12:42.14theredundanti dont remember so
12:42.20theredundantlet me have a look
12:42.20luc__there where before
12:42.23dcordestheredundant: ok thanks
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12:42.43GNUtoo|laptopcharging issues?
12:42.46theredundanti remember this timing
12:42.50luc__different batteries diff capacities
12:42.56GNUtoo|laptopI've battery/charging issues too on dream
12:43.02GNUtoo|laptopbasically here's the issue:
12:43.09dcordesGNUtoo|laptop: you don't use self cooked driver do you ?
12:43.15GNUtoo|laptopno
12:43.29GNUtoo|laptopI keep it on, and not charging, so it discharges
12:43.37GNUtoo|laptopthen I charge it
12:43.41GNUtoo|laptopit charges very slowly
12:43.48GNUtoo|laptopaccording to the sys file
12:44.11GNUtoo|laptoplike 10% -> 14%
12:44.20GNUtoo|laptopthen I reboot
12:44.24GNUtoo|laptopand the battery is full
12:44.33luc__you have to boot the kernel with 100% battery then it will know what is 100%
12:44.35GNUtoo|laptopstrange isn't it?
12:44.52GNUtoo|laptopah?
12:45.06dcordesluc__: he doesn't have leo but dream
12:45.13dcordesluc__: whole different thing
12:45.21luc__i know...i was talking to you
12:45.42dcordesluc__: when there are many ppl it's useful to prepend the nickname
12:46.00dcordesI will ask markinus to review the diifs
12:46.05dcordesbbl
12:46.27luc__maybe to many ips
12:48.53DuperManis the backlight in the newer kernels?
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12:56.03GNUtoo|laptopDuperMan, by backlight you mean standard one, or led one?
12:56.29GNUtoo|laptopbecause for hd2,last time I looked there was only led one
12:56.41GNUtoo|laptopbasically it's an lcd backlight, it works etc....
12:56.49GNUtoo|laptopbut it's made with the led subsystem
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13:10.14MaricSmithdoes the notification led on the hd2 have 3 colors or only 2?
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13:32.45fakkeri think 2
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13:41.40Cassred / green / orange no ?
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13:46.51Cassyeah source indicates green / amber only .. im sure i see red in winmo when battery is < 10% .. could be wrong
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13:50.04shu8icass: i get red when charging in android :P
13:50.49luc__its amber not red lol
13:51.01luc__just tried
13:51.07luc__maybe mine is diff.
13:51.41Cassamber when charging, green when charged and in winmo im sure i get red when < 10% charge left ..
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13:56.15DuperManpretty sure there's no red:P
13:56.21DuperManwould've been great for disco apps
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13:58.23gauner1986heyho
13:59.33DuperManhiya santa
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14:16.26dglaroshello people!
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14:17.00dglarosi have a dimamond and looking for android OS any suggestion?
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14:32.20MicroangApt seen mattc
14:32.22aptmattc <~mattc@75.142.172.16> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 22h 44m 48s ago, saying: 'And a SUPER BRIGHT flash :)'.
14:32.37MicroangCrap, oh well
14:33.00AstainHellbringapt seen cr2
14:33.01aptcr2 <n=cr2@ip-109-84-74-80.web.vodafone.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 213d 18h 12m 8s ago, saying: 'MrPippy: where is this source ?'.
14:35.08Casshmm wonder if MrPippy knew..
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14:35.14gauner1986:D
14:35.26gauner1986i wonder what happened to the duck...
14:35.31Casshaha
14:35.41Cassapt seen cr2_
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14:56.16MNHI
14:56.55MNgauner1986 good job on ppp
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15:04.15gauner1986thx
15:04.54MNwhat are you working on next
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15:07.19uub11jonpry, so the whole issue with sound is that the processor for sound doesn't want to turn on thru haret right?
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15:08.46MNshu8i are you working on a new shubcraft rom?
15:09.06shu8iy
15:09.18BigDaDDywhats going to get changed in it?
15:09.59shu8imaybe ums
15:10.44MNany eta
15:10.56shu8inope
15:11.09gauner1986ums?
15:11.17jonpryuub11: i don't think it has anything to do with haret. the issue is that we don't have code for amss 6125
15:11.32MNok kl
15:11.51Cassgauner1986, usb mass storage
15:11.58gauner1986ok
15:11.58uub11which is the chip that controls sound?
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15:14.34jonpryits the software on the chip that controls sound
15:15.10jonpryfor that matter it is all one chip
15:15.46uub11and you can't see how the chip gets communicated too thru windows?
15:15.59uub11sorry trying to get a better understand of all this
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15:16.24[acl]uub11: sounds like you wanna get involved :-)
15:16.27jonprysort of can
15:16.33[acl]jonpry: sup my good man
15:16.36jonpryeverything seems right
15:16.53jonprynot much. i messed with i2c-gpio for awhile last night
15:17.12MicroangAre there any diamond devs around?
15:17.23[acl]jonpry: im pissed with rpc right now..
15:17.31[acl]jonpry: there is this call hsu_api_init_phy in rpc clnt
15:17.40jonprygot it compiled in, which would seem to be cool. but i haven't really got to try it yet
15:18.00jonpryi think we need to upgrade gpio
15:18.00[acl]jonpry: it is supposed to make a call to 0x30000064.. but i dont see that on our rpc servers list during boot
15:18.40uub11something like that acl, so everything seems right but still nothing......and so far there isn't a way to trick the chip to stay on? so the communication stays open?
15:19.02jonpryare you sure winmo is calling that rpc. there is lots of dead code in those dll's
15:19.27[acl]jonpry: im not sure at all.. fucking dead code.. why would they toruture us like this..
15:19.39[acl]like "here are some calls u can use" .. NOT
15:19.46jonpryi would start with the usbfn dll
15:20.05uub11lol
15:20.09[acl]back to the drawing board
15:20.09jonprysee what it calls
15:21.08dcordesGNUtoo|laptop: how do you enable GPS on htcdream ?
15:21.30GNUtoo|laptopdcordes, run "gps"
15:21.34GNUtoo|laptopthen:
15:21.40GNUtoo|laptopcat /dev/smd27
15:21.42dcordesGNUtoo|laptop: where is "gps" source code ?
15:21.46GNUtoo|laptopin fso
15:21.50GNUtoo|laptopthe recipe is android_rpc
15:21.56GNUtoo|laptopin android folder
15:22.04GNUtoo|laptopthere is the SRC_URI there
15:22.08GNUtoo|laptopdcordes, but that will change
15:22.10jonpryuub11, the thing is that the other processor uses the sound system too. so you have to negotiate with it to get sound. otherwise you end up missing things like in call audio
15:22.17GNUtoo|laptopI gave mickeyl newer activator source code
15:22.23GNUtoo|laptopit will be handled transparenty
15:22.27GNUtoo|laptopinstead of manually
15:22.37dcordesGNUtoo|laptop: can you show me the new activator source code ?
15:22.46dcordesGNUtoo|laptop: I want to create such a program for htcleo too
15:22.53GNUtoo|laptopok
15:22.59GNUtoo|laptopfor GNU/Linux or android?
15:23.07uub11Ok hhhmmm next question why is it that on our phones wm can't allow sound to overlap each other
15:23.17dcordesGNUtoo|laptop: GNU/Linux . Android already has mechanism for GPS actiavation
15:23.21GNUtoo|laptopdcordes, give me your mail and I'll send you the tarball
15:23.24uub11i.e. if i'm on a call and media player is playing it kills the sound from there
15:23.26dcordesuub11: what's your phone ?
15:23.27GNUtoo|laptopit's not published yet
15:23.33uub11tp
15:23.37gauner1986hey dcordes
15:23.50dcordeshi gauner1986
15:24.03uub11is that a processor thing?
15:24.12dcordesgauner1986, Cass : I noticed you can't set frequency(channel) in master mode
15:24.44gauner1986dcordes: mhm.. i guess the way it's supposed to do is.. you load the module with some kernel parameter
15:24.45jonpryuub11, its like you can't try to leave the sound enabled in winmo, and then boot linux, because then calls wouldn't work
15:24.46gauner1986like this
15:24.57gauner1986ASCII_CMD=AP_CFG,SSID=HTC network,SEC=wpa-psk,KEY=1e016a2e2350c137d2219718b2c58a429b7579bcac0aee1e94a04bfbadb06c2b,CHANNEL=0,PREAMBLE=0,MAX_SCB=2,END
15:25.03gauner1986like htc app does
15:25.10gauner1986btw tries to do
15:25.12dcordesgauner1986: 'modinfo bcm4329'
15:25.15gauner1986zego has it working on his build
15:25.35dcordesgauner1986: did you try to load it with those paramters and scan ?
15:25.46uub11calls to the processor right?
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15:25.59gauner1986dcordes: i got another driver from zego.. which origins from cm6 kernel repo
15:26.02dcordesuub11: do you have the gsm or cdma rhodium ?
15:26.04jonprycalls to your friends!
15:26.07gauner1986it can even read and set the mac addr
15:26.20[acl]lol..
15:26.20uub11gsm
15:26.30uub11i don't have friends...lol
15:26.32dcordesgauner1986: it might be because we hardcode the mac address
15:26.37uub11so then it doesn't matter
15:26.52gauner1986dcordes: yeah.. because it wasnt implemented before..
15:26.53uub11just pick on the noob = - P
15:27.12gauner1986with that new driver and zegos mod it reads correctly now
15:27.20GNUtoo|laptopdcordes, do you want me to do the activator for you?
15:27.30GNUtoo|laptopbecause I could do it quickeyly
15:27.33dcordesgauner1986: proper way would be to read it from NAND and pass it to ATAG
15:27.36[acl]uub11: ur much better than those guys that come in and demand a timeline on when its gonna be done.. now i love to have fun with those guys
15:27.46GNUtoo|laptopI do it, I commit to fso
15:27.49dcordesgauner1986: afair that is the way it works on nexus and friends
15:27.55uub11lol well i feel appreciated
15:27.58GNUtoo|laptopthen you modify it
15:28.31dcordesgauner1986: what is zego and I don't see any driver
15:28.38GNUtoo|laptopelse you just use my c source code and send a patch to fso uttilities
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15:29.07uub11like i told you i may not know much but i'm trying to learn and understand so that why i'm inquisitive!!
15:29.26gauner1986zego is the guy who posted the cm6 android builds
15:29.37[acl]uub11: its all good.. and to be honest first step is Haret.. need to learn that in and out buddy..
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15:30.29uub11yeah i'm about to start but haven't had a chance i've been tied with a warehouse expansion and crap with work
15:30.37uub11well i want to start
15:31.20jonpry[acl] have you used PCOM_RPC_GPIO_TLMM_CONFIG_EX?
15:32.20dcordesgauner1986: well that doesn't help very much without sources
15:32.34[acl]jonpry:  i had 0 luck with anything dex
15:33.26[acl]jonpry: i guess because i dont really know what data to pass down.. lol
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15:33.50jonpryafaict that should be necessary in order to bitbang on i2c
15:34.11jonprybut winmo doesn't seem to use it. and bit bang seems to work from userspace
15:34.37[acl]jonpry: need to get phh brain around this big gang bang
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15:35.12jonprybut we could do all kinds of stuff with that pcom tlmm. like software i2s, oooo, and usb
15:35.33[acl]where is it used now?
15:35.40jonpryit isn't
15:35.57[acl]how did u hear about it then ? just spider senses ?
15:36.19jonpryother phones use it as a matter of course. well used to anyways, gpio_tlmm is outdated driver now
15:36.37jonprythey have something even better, but it would require rewiring all of our gpio code
15:36.40dcordesCass: so you had no problems with the battery ?
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15:37.30theredundantguess i was the only one aye
15:39.53Cassdcordes, nope battery fine for me always
15:40.23[acl]jonpry: its worth investigating ..
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15:50.28Markinusdcordes: if I think about it, tehre could be problems if users are using a other battery like thge default one, 3.7V 1230 mAh, maybe the should post the battery values
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15:51.46Markinusdcordes: the whole code is fix to this values, if it's a other one the calculation of the actual capacity is totly wrong
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16:05.22luc_EVO 4G has another potential defect that seems to be affecting a notable (though probably still very, very small) number of devices: problems with the micro-USB port, an issue that bit Nokia not long ago on the N900. The main symptom here seems to be that the phone will no longer charge or charges intermittently
16:05.50GNUtoo|laptopping dcordes
16:05.52luc_i guess we are not the only one with charging problems :)
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16:26.09dcordesGNUtoo|laptop: segfault
16:26.47dcordesMarkinus: ok false alert then
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16:27.37GNUtoo|laptopdcordes, I told you you needed the source
16:27.46GNUtoo|laptopI'll try it on my phone
16:27.50GNUtoo|laptopit's armv6-novfp
16:28.14dcordesshould be fine
16:28.55GNUtoo|laptopok
16:29.09GNUtoo|laptopyou've got armv7
16:29.20GNUtoo|laptopand you needed special compiler obtimizations right?
16:29.29GNUtoo|laptopor is that info deprecated?
16:30.24dcordesnotneeded
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16:32.45GNUtoo|laptopok
16:32.49GNUtoo|laptopso I don't know
16:32.51GNUtoo|laptopit's static
16:32.54GNUtoo|laptopso it should work
16:33.02GNUtoo|laptopdid you unlzma it?
16:33.07GNUtoo|laptopwhat does file give?
16:33.39MNdcordes are you working on a new ubuntu build
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18:03.05[acl]jonpry: wtf is it gonna take to get people to stop posting about the damn headset .. jeez..
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18:04.53uub11you know how it works they hear something and run with it.......
18:05.02dan1j3lhi
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18:09.46[acl]uub11: yeah but we have been hearing this for almost a year now.. lol
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18:10.13uub11well they have been running for about a year now then........
18:12.40[acl]:-\
18:13.01uub11track stars
18:15.10uub11acl: conference calls on our phones use a9 or a11 or both depending on how many people are involved?
18:21.17GNUtoo|laptopdcordes, ahhh maybe I know why
18:21.22GNUtoo|laptopdcordes, different device nodes?
18:22.09GNUtoo|laptopdcordes, look in the source code about the device nodes
18:22.18GNUtoo|laptopand on your device
18:24.45GNUtoo|laptopdcordes :
18:24.47GNUtoo|laptop<PROTECTED>
18:24.48GNUtoo|laptop<PROTECTED>
18:24.50GNUtoo|laptopmodify that
18:25.38GNUtoo|laptopif I remember well
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18:28.03[acl]uub11: no clue..
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18:30.02jonpry[acl]. was your trouble with DEX related to the wince proccomm not taking 2 parameters?
18:35.29[acl]jonpry: no, it was actually that i didnt know the correct clock values to send. They arent the same as the linux clock values.
18:35.39[acl]jonpry: i never received errors.. but nothing was done.
18:36.02jonpryso no clocks were 2 parameters?
18:36.52jonpryor did you get that working?
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18:48.57[acl]jonpry: ill show u the code tonight.. i did pass 2 params i believe..
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19:36.57WoZZeR[acl]: jonpry: hey guys
19:37.43[acl]WoZZeR: how was the interview?
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19:37.52WoZZeRI think it went well
19:37.56WoZZeRjust waiting to hear back now
19:37.59[acl]nice niec
19:38.07WoZZeRany reason I should read the logs?
19:38.33jonprynothing working yet
19:38.37WoZZeRdamn
19:39.06EMP|FireStormnot dev related, but maybe someone on sprint would like to see it: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=117727
19:40.00WoZZeR[acl]: got any ideas to try?
19:40.28[acl]WoZZeR: nahh.. my tests were a failure last night
19:40.38WoZZeRwant me to try it on nand?
19:41.11WoZZeRactually, I need my phone in working condition for another few hours
19:42.06[acl]WoZZeR: it wont work as well
19:42.09[acl]we are missing some rpc servers
19:42.10WoZZeRk
19:43.53[acl]unless nand has more ? i dobut it
19:44.09WoZZeRis there stuff in the eris rpc that isn't in .27?
19:44.19WoZZeRor should I try a later rpd_server?
19:44.30WoZZeRrpc*
19:44.35[acl]WoZZeR; when u boot up.. there is a list of servers that come up
19:44.44WoZZeRin dmesg?
19:44.46[acl]30000XX and all that stuff
19:44.46[acl]yeah
19:45.31[acl]WoZZeR: im looking for 30000064
19:45.33[acl]but its not on the list
19:45.43[acl]sucks because i was going to use that to init usb
19:46.42WoZZeRare those part of rpc_server?
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19:50.41WoZZeRthink amss 6210 is similar to 6215?
19:50.49WoZZeRI found some audio rpc versions
19:53.50[acl]huh?
19:54.08WoZZeR[acl]: http://pastebin.com/cxjjriXg
19:54.18WoZZeRjust browsing through random kernels for eris
19:58.47[acl]dmesg would show if tis there. htc has the habit of defining rpc numbers on the fly
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19:59.03[acl]anyways.. what matters is that our phone doesnt have it
19:59.09WoZZeRk
20:03.41jonpryi got gpio i2c pretending to do something
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20:12.19uub11pretending?
20:14.17jonprynow upgraded to actually
20:14.53uub11actually sounds better than pretending....
20:15.05jonprywrite to tpa2016 now successful using i2c-gpio. but still no response from adc3001
20:16.23DuperManpretending? I knew it. i2c is a decepticon.
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20:23.48MaricSmithare you guys seeing any data activity hangs with the current ppp builds?
20:24.22DuperMannone when the device doesn't freeze:P
20:24.54emweWoZZeR, can i think of tinboot as a minimal boot loader loading zImage and handing over execution to it? everything "else" is still loaded from sd, right? nothing nand'ed, right?
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20:34.47WoZZeRemwe: yeah, it uses zImage and initd.gz
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20:35.27emweWoZZeR, which are nand'ed, right?
20:35.49WoZZeRemwe: correct. They are in the nand portion
20:35.56BazGee!invite Nikole
20:36.01WoZZeRthe system image and data are all on sd card
20:36.12emwehm. whonder if it's worth a try on my topa100 ;)
20:36.17WoZZeRI'm working on creating a version that uses the androidinstall.tar.gz now
20:36.27WoZZeRemwe: may as well try. It can't hurt
20:36.30emwebut then, i need my phone in a working state during the day ;)
20:36.33WoZZeRit's as safe as flashing a winmo rom
20:36.37emwehehe
20:36.42WoZZeRemwe: that's what the night is for
20:36.55emweif that wouldn't be soooo short ;)
20:36.59WoZZeRmy phone is only usable from about 8AM-9PM
20:37.13WoZZeRafter 9PM it's in android/flash land
20:37.18emweheh.
20:37.25WoZZeR[acl]: oh, I read you had a question about charging
20:37.54emweof course there would be faster turn-around-times for kernel testing as winmo+genydualboot would be out of the way.
20:38.16WoZZeRemwe: the problem is, that nand needs to init everything
20:38.29WoZZeRthe genydual boot and haret have a lot of carryover from ce
20:38.42emweWoZZeR, where linux-msm adjusted to nand comes into play i guess?
20:38.49WoZZeRyeah
20:38.53WoZZeRwe have a seperate kernel
20:38.56emwewhat was your guys plans? fork or adjust?
20:38.59emweoh you do?
20:39.03emweshared?
20:39.05WoZZeRyeah, fork
20:39.09WoZZeRno, it's all local to me right now
20:39.17WoZZeRwe are going to setup a branch soon though I beliefe
20:39.19WoZZeRbelieve*
20:39.37[acl]WoZZeR: i was talking to jonpry about that.. still havent decided if im going to branch it
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20:39.45emwepossible to integrate into the "mainline" version at all?
20:39.56WoZZeR[acl]: well, once usb is fixed, that was the first thing that I changed
20:39.58emwe(mainline as in linux-msm)
20:40.03[acl]WoZZeR: most of the stuff we have to fix.. needs to be done on the main as well ..
20:40.24WoZZeR[acl]: what about the rpcrouter problem?
20:40.44[acl]WoZZeR: need to make conditions to not execute certain portions for wince version
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20:40.49[acl]it works.. thats how its running for me
20:40.56[acl]i'm running a hybrid of nand/haret version
20:40.57[acl]lol
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20:41.04WoZZeRdid you falsh nand?
20:41.07[acl]nahh
20:41.14WoZZeRok, I can test it tonight
20:41.17jonpryno guts no glory
20:41.19WoZZeRsee if it works for me as well
20:41.48[acl]WoZZeR: i nee to fix this usb thing first.. code changed alot but my tests failed. So let me attack that or revent back at least
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20:42.12WoZZeR[acl]: I need my phone in working condition for the next 3 hours anyway
20:42.19WoZZeRincase I get a job
20:42.21emwe[acl], there'll be different code paths i guess? will they be conf'ed or taken on runtime dependant on mode? (nand, wince)
20:43.32jonpry[acl]. aren't there people who have ripped up there pcbs? so we could trace the reset on adc3001 to wherever it actually goes?
20:43.51[acl]jonpry: need to get a hold of them
20:44.21jonprywe have the pinouts for msm?
20:44.26emweWoZZeR, i see wine is required for tinboot. what is yang? part of wine?
20:44.26[acl]emwe: well i know more devices will probably go nand soon so eventually the code needs to be flexible for both.
20:44.33WoZZeRoh, 1 sec
20:44.43WoZZeRshit, I lost my refrence. just google 'yang htc-flasher'
20:44.49emwe[acl], i see.
20:44.57WoZZeRit is like nbhutil for linux
20:44.59emweWoZZeR, ah the google code project. ok.
20:45.04WoZZeRyeah
20:45.09emweanything else?
20:45.12[acl]jonpry: i knoe some animals documented all this info . need to search for it
20:45.17WoZZeRwine and yang are all you need I think
20:45.20WoZZeRlemme look at the code
20:45.24emweWoZZeR, can i use the codesourcery toolchain?
20:45.46WoZZeRdon't know
20:45.47emwei see the one in makexip is a different one?
20:45.53emwewhat is the one there?
20:46.06WoZZeRmakexip is run first
20:46.08WoZZeRthen makenbh
20:46.11WoZZeRmakenbh
20:46.35WoZZeR./buildkernel.sh
20:46.35WoZZeR./makexip.sh rhod500
20:46.35WoZZeR./makenbh.sh rhod500
20:46.40WoZZeRthat's my build process
20:46.45WoZZeRto remake a rhod500 image
20:48.16emweok, will give it a try when I find the time.
20:48.32WoZZeRemwe: makexip uses the .asm code to create a xip. then makenbh runs the tools to insert the xip into a flashable image
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20:49.25WoZZeR[acl]: is there a reboot command that I can issue for the phones in bash?
20:49.31WoZZeRdoes just reboot work?
20:49.39emweWoZZeR, and i flash on linux?
20:49.53WoZZeRemwe: I flash on windows. the .nbh is universal
20:50.02WoZZeRyou can flash from an sd card if you want
20:50.02emweWoZZeR, no reboot command ever worked for me ;)
20:50.09WoZZeRdamn
20:50.20WoZZeRok
20:50.35WoZZeRI'll test my androidinstall.tar.gz version later
20:50.44WoZZeRmaybe I don't need a reboot in it
20:50.56emweflash from sd. hm. i think ages ago i read something about that on the xda forums. will have to research that :)
20:51.03[acl]WoZZeR: depends on what distro.. i think my old sense ui had a shutdown binary that will turn off the phone
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20:51.31WoZZeR[acl]: what about from initrd?
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20:51.52WoZZeRemwe: name it rhodimg.nbh and flash like normal
20:52.01WoZZeRI have to hold down the end key longer to get it to register
20:52.10WoZZeRfor sd card
20:52.45emweoh, it's built-in capability of the device, right?
20:52.46WoZZeR[acl]: if I use switch_root, do all the previous folder mappings go away?
20:52.56emwei think for my topa it needs to be named different, though ;)
20:53.48WoZZeRyeah
20:53.49WoZZeRsorry
20:54.17emwei don't wan't to switch to win just for flashing ;)
20:54.18WoZZeRemwe: you'll also have to edit tinboot to add the device and put the command line you normally use
20:54.50emweyes, already had a look at that. if i come up with something - hopefully if time permits - i am gonna send over some patches.
20:54.52WoZZeRemwe: TOPAIMG.nbh
20:54.59emweWoZZeR, thanks
20:55.02WoZZeRnp
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20:56.34WoZZeR[acl]: I'm looking through the neopeek install initrd.gz, and it detects the rhod version (CDMA vs GSM). Can we use that to change cmdline params?
20:57.21WoZZeRif we change htc_hw.force_cdma=1 if cdma, 0 if GSM?
20:58.12[acl]WoZZeR: no.. they prob detect it from the rootfs .. i doubt they rewrote the kernel to detect
20:58.17[acl]sorry oh the phone
20:58.18[acl]brb
20:58.53WoZZeR[acl]: http://pastebin.com/K4hxTUjH
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21:04.02jonpry[acl]. can you try to contact the people with ripped up phones?
21:04.29[acl]jonpry: yes.. some topaz guys and that dood who claimed to do the jtag for rhod
21:05.39jonpryi don't think topaz will help
21:08.52[acl]WoZZeR: i dont think we can mod cdmline but we can get creative somehow
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21:22.06jonpry[acl]. if you can get someone to mail me a broken tp2 board, i can desolder it and such
21:24.56WoZZeRjonpry: http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Pro-2-BROKEN-SPRINT-Black-PARTS-/310244242238?pt=Cell_Phones
21:25.30WoZZeRI'll pay half the shipping
21:27.09WoZZeRthought it was buy it now, nevermind
21:27.28jonpryhmm
21:27.40WoZZeRstill some pretty cheap ones on ebay
21:27.42jonpryi figure most broken ones are expensive because of the screen
21:27.52WoZZeRfind one with broken screen
21:28.17jonprythere are people on craigslist that buy lots broken phones for salvage
21:28.20Microangapt seen mattc
21:28.22aptmattc <~mattc@75.142.172.16> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 1d 5h 40m 48s ago, saying: 'And a SUPER BRIGHT flash :)'.
21:28.28jonprymaybe they would give up a broken mobo for cheap
21:31.45[acl]jonpry: ok .. you want a hardware pig ? ill see what i cna do
21:32.57emwegnight everyone.
21:33.16WoZZeRnight
21:33.47WoZZeRcountdown: 2.5 hours until I can flash my phone
21:34.27jonprywozzer: what kind of job did you interview for?
21:34.35WoZZeRmarket research job
21:35.56[acl]WoZZeR: not a bad idea.. ill chip in for a broke on
21:35.57[acl]*one
21:36.02WoZZeRI will as well
21:39.04jonpryimho, 50 is a bit steep.
21:40.32WoZZeRhow about I just ask for donations for a new one, and send you my old one.... lol
21:40.48[acl]need to post on ppg geeks
21:40.50WoZZeRSEND ME MONEY PLz!
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21:41.23jonpryi would feel bad unsoldering an actually working phone
21:41.27[acl]gonna have to spread the word.. give an nice speech about contribution .. stir the soul
21:41.39WoZZeRjonpry: I can take care of that before sending it
21:41.58jonprylol
21:42.05WoZZeR[acl]: all we need is a few dollars for a broken one
21:42.09WoZZeRor if anyone know of a broken one
21:42.22jonpryi figure somebody on xda bricks there phone everyday
21:42.38jonpryespecially with your new nand kitchen. you should be getting emails about it
21:42.48WoZZeRjonpry: you can't brick with nand
21:42.52WoZZeRthank god
21:43.02jonprysomeone will manage
21:43.05WoZZeRprobably
21:43.14jonpryneeds spl right?
21:43.20WoZZeRHardSPL? ye
21:43.21WoZZeRs
21:43.31WoZZeRthat is where you can brick a phone, playing with spl
21:43.46jonpryor radio
21:44.00WoZZeRnot even radio, still salvagable
21:44.03WoZZeRwith sd flash
21:44.03[acl]ok im wiring on geeks.. anyone have a paypal account ?
21:44.10jonpryhmm
21:44.15WoZZeRI have one in my sig
21:44.24WoZZeRwhat's the plan, to buy a new tp2?
21:44.28[acl]new ?
21:44.29[acl]crazy
21:44.31jonprysomebody told me that putting the wrong radio on a phone will really brick it
21:44.32WoZZeRdead
21:44.35WoZZeRdead tp2,
21:44.41WoZZeRnew as in one that we do not own yet
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21:44.56[acl]ok lets ask for a dead tp2 first .. see where we get
21:45.02WoZZeRjonpry: it shouldn't any more, as long as you can get to bootloader mode
21:45.16jonprywhat do you mean anymore?
21:45.39hamagci have a tp1 up for grabs :p
21:46.15WoZZeRon some phones you could easily brick it with a bad radio
21:46.24WoZZeRbut new ones tend to be harder to brick
21:46.37jonpryfrom what i understand oemsbl is in radio
21:47.14jonpryand that is what they hacked to get it to load hardspl
21:47.21WoZZeRhmmm, maybe
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21:50.34bmnbmnrhodium forums on xdadev/ppcgeeks are a mess, sadness
21:50.43[acl]lol
21:51.10WoZZeRI think xda's rhod forum is even worse
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21:58.35[acl]WoZZeR:
21:58.36[acl]http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1922525#post1922525
21:58.39[acl]lets see what we get
21:58.53[acl]jonpry: i'll let you know if i fnid anyone with a broke board.
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22:03.07WoZZeR[acl]: do you know if most android distro's are going to be fat/ext2/swp, or is this just a fad
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22:03.33[acl]no idea..
22:03.56[acl]damn cookers run that show
22:04.02WoZZeRI think I've got a working kernel that will handle installing it and running it (instead of the retarded 2step process neopeek uses)
22:04.12WoZZeRinitrd.gz, not kernel
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22:14.24bmnbmnWoZZeR: didnt the majority of the major developers say that partitioning was unnecessary
22:14.32yimb0Hi all
22:14.33bmnbmnheh majority major
22:15.20WoZZeRdon't know. I think that having a system.ext2/sqsh is a cleaner way of doing things
22:15.28yimb0@WoZZeR are you talking about, use ext2 for android instead, IMG (like *.img or *.ext2)
22:15.35WoZZeRbut I've seen a few that use androidinstall.tar.gz, which is fat/ext2/swp
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22:15.55WoZZeRyimb0: If I'm reading it right, yes
22:16.11WoZZeRit's a ext2 partition that get's formatted when you install, and it boot from that partition
22:16.23yimb0its posible
22:16.27WoZZeRit's done
22:16.41yimb0who made it?
22:16.43WoZZeRI'm just converting the initrd.gz to do it in one shot
22:16.47WoZZeRneopeek made an installer
22:16.47yimb0i was try to do this
22:16.53bmnbmnWoZZeR: its surely an easier way to upgrade xdandroid builds
22:16.55yimb0could you share?
22:16.56WoZZeRyimb0: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741955
22:17.01bmnbmnor change xdandroid builds i should say
22:17.04WoZZeRyimb0: to install it in 1 go?
22:17.19yimb0yes i was see on diamond
22:17.33WoZZeRbmnbmn: with just a new file in the sd card instead of formatting and untaring the whole system image?
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22:17.46yimb0we need change some init too init.leo not sure if this file
22:17.51WoZZeRdo you just want my initrd.gz?
22:18.10Neonatorhi friends
22:18.15bmnbmnWoZZeR: yeah, btu maybe thats just my opinion
22:18.45WoZZeRbmnbmn: I agree, but if someone else wants to use the other method (which they *claim* is better), then I may as well port it to nand
22:18.58yimb0could i use, your initrd.gz with some built for leo like shub?
22:19.23yimb0i prefer you system, on SD
22:19.31yimb0your +
22:19.56WoZZeRyimb0: you'll probably have to modify it, and read through my initrd.gz to see how it works
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22:20.21yimb0w8
22:20.39yimb0i thought that i have someone
22:20.54WoZZeR??
22:20.56yimb0i was testing 2 days ago
22:21.37WoZZeRhttp://www.mediafire.com/?f2gvinbo1vuy1op that's my current WIP neopeek install port
22:21.52WoZZeRI mainly just modified his stuff, and stuck it in a single initrd
22:22.59WoZZeR[acl]: cp /proc/cmdline /tmp/cmdline is run before init.android. can we use a string replace on that for CDMA/GSM data detection
22:24.02[acl]you can try .. im not sure if we can mod the cdmline.
22:24.49WoZZeRhmm
22:25.00WoZZeRcan I get the cmdline from android to test if it worked?
22:25.10WoZZeRsed -i -e "s:$: androidboot.serialno=${SERIALNO}:" /tmp/cmdline
22:25.17WoZZeRthey have that, so it may work
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22:25.57[acl]:-\ lol im lost bro.. im not sure what you are trying to do
22:26.10[acl]remind me again why we need the to detect ?
22:26.29WoZZeRbecause if we don't force CDMA, we don't get data
22:26.35WoZZeRbut if we force it, gsm doesn't get data
22:26.40[acl]ahh
22:26.54WoZZeRat least I believe
22:26.57WoZZeRdon't have a gsm to test it
22:27.11WoZZeRbut I know CDMA does need the force to work
22:27.26[acl]ic
22:27.32WoZZeRwould be better if it was changed in kernel, but initrd.gz is an option
22:27.47WoZZeRor if android set it correctly
22:27.54WoZZeRI don't know exactly where the problem lies
22:28.33[acl]yeah.. need to find out where in the kernel thats being used ..and change it
22:28.45WoZZeR[acl]: well, it may be an android issue
22:28.52[acl]ooo
22:29.18[acl]no clue.. i havent messed with that stuff in ages.. since donut :-\
22:29.38yimb0@WoZZeR , im on your intrd
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22:29.52WoZZeRgrep -R "htc_gw.force_cdma" /home/wozzer/kernel/linux-msm/
22:29.57WoZZeRgot nothing so far
22:30.00WoZZeRit may be android
22:30.01yimb0where cai i download androidinstall.tar.gz
22:30.04WoZZeRoh, spelled wrong
22:30.06yimb0can *
22:30.25WoZZeRyimb0: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741955 that's one of the distros
22:30.46yimb0i have already Chromatic-Port
22:31.02[acl]WoZZeR: may need to talk to stinebd for that.. he is the guru behind xdandroid
22:31.28WoZZeRhtc_hw.force_cdma is in htc_hw.o, built-in.o and some other bins
22:32.08hamagcforce_cdma is in the system somewhere. we are no longer using it in our startup.txt's
22:32.22WoZZeRyimb0: try reading... Now Download latest CyanogenMod6-Port or any other Android (please have a look into our community. There are lot of builds available). Now rename this download to androidinstall.tar.gz and put it into the npkinstall-folder. There are several Text-Files in this folder like diamond.txt, raphael.txt etc. Just rename the one that matches your device to startup.txt.
22:32.52WoZZeRhamagc: I think last time I tested it without force cdma, I didn't get data
22:33.14hamagcdoes the apn auto populate?
22:33.24WoZZeRit does now. didn't use to
22:33.29WoZZeRI had to make a mock apn for data
22:33.31WoZZeRon a few builds
22:33.46WoZZeRI have not tested it without force cdma, I will later tonight
22:34.00WoZZeRbut I know that has fixed a few people's problems that have come in here
22:37.54bmnbmnI get no service at all with force_cdma=1 removed from my startup.txt for my rhod400 and loaded via haret
22:38.29hamagchmm, on 2.2 or 2.1?
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22:39.14bmnbmn2.2 8/19 xdandroid release with latest kernel/rootfs/initrd
22:39.41hamagcthats weird. we don't even have that code in our startup.txt options anymore. let me research. brb
22:40.52bmnbmnthere are no autopopulated APNs
22:41.16WoZZeRbmnbmn: do you have no service at all?
22:41.22WoZZeRthose should not be apn based
22:41.27WoZZeRtry searching for a network
22:41.29bmnbmnWoZZeR: no service at all, like can't make a call
22:41.45WoZZeRin settings somewhere you can try to pick a tower or something
22:41.59bmnbmnits searching, but it'll just sit there forever
22:42.22WoZZeRstill not sure if it's kernel or android based then
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22:44.02hamagcinit in rootfs has:
22:44.04hamagc391
22:44.04hamagcif [ "$SKIP" = "5744" ];then
22:44.04hamagc392
22:44.04hamagcecho "CDMA Rhodium detected"
22:44.04hamagc393
22:44.05hamagcfi;
22:44.07hamagc394
22:44.09hamagcif [ "$SKIP" = "4736" ];then
22:44.11hamagc395
22:44.13hamagcecho "GSM Rhodium detected"
22:46.57WoZZeRhamagc: but does that change anything?
22:47.44[acl]WoZZeR: ok dood.. gotta go.. ill be on tonite
22:47.51WoZZeR[acl]: cool
22:48.22WoZZeRit looks like it just echo's, and sets $skip
22:48.37WoZZeRwhich I don't believe changes anything
22:48.38bmnbmnyeah doesnt do anything in the init
22:48.48bmnbmnthe only thing is the for loop  before it for the nvram dump
22:48.51hamagcya i thought it did more
22:49.20WoZZeRI plan on using that to set it correctly
22:49.28WoZZeRbut I would rather not have to
22:49.40bmnbmnwhy not, shouldn't it be detected rather than forced?
22:49.41WoZZeRand have the issue fixed in the kernel or android
22:49.49WoZZeRbmnbmn: that's my problem with it
22:50.45WoZZeRchar *radio_type = ((machine_is_htcraphael_cdma() || machine_is_htcraphael_cdma500()) ||
22:50.45WoZZeR<PROTECTED>
22:50.50WoZZeRhmmm, seems to be in the kernel
22:51.18WoZZeRdon't know if that effects it
22:52.40WoZZeRthat may be where it is
22:52.46WoZZeRand that needs to be modified
22:57.24bmnbmnwhy are there unique functions for devices rather than a general one for everything
22:57.41WoZZeRprobably easier that way
22:57.54WoZZeRI'm going to look at the eris kernel
22:57.57bmnbmnby "everything" i mean for whats supported of course
22:58.43WoZZeRhmm, htc_hw is not a stock file
23:01.06bmnbmnwhats that file location?
23:01.24WoZZeR- /arch/arm/mach-msm/htc_hw.c
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23:05.26bmnbmnthanks
23:05.37WoZZeRnp
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23:08.31WoZZeRso I gues it's a rhod problem
23:14.44bmnbmnWoZZeR: if they can detect the type of device it is, why do they need to force the radio?
23:15.09WoZZeRthe radio is done at a different area of the kernel
23:15.20WoZZeRbest answer I can give, it was the easiest way
23:15.46bmnbmnIs that because we're using the same mtype for both device types?
23:15.53WoZZeRmost likely
23:16.06WoZZeReven if we had different mtypes, each would have to be checked
23:16.10WoZZeRso it's no different
23:16.24bmnbmnright
23:18.44bmnbmnIm no kernel developer, so I should probably just shut my mouf
23:19.47WoZZeRI have no idea what I'm doing either. at least I can kinda fix it (maybe) with the nand initrd
23:20.02WoZZeR1 less cmdline var to worry about
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