IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100806

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00:08.36tfoutowhat error?
00:09.47ElBartoMEjust a compiling error
00:12.00tfoutook
00:18.20krat0sElBartoME you finally fixed it?
00:19.38ElBartoMEwell, guess not. bt is messed, idk why. still working on it
00:20.22krat0sElBartoME: oh.. but the SOD has been fixed?
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00:21.34ElBartoMEthis already has been fixed by manusfreedom, which was first fixed by cotulla xD
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00:23.44krat0sElBartoME: did manusfreedom released a new zImage? coz the no power collapse he released stil has the SOD
00:23.50ElBartoMEhm
00:23.57ElBartoMEi guess not
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00:24.34bbd9123hello everyone
00:24.47krat0sElBartoME: although, i noticed that if you keep it plugged in to the wall, it doesn't SOD
00:25.07bbd9123got a problem with audio can anyone help?
00:25.53krat0sat least that's what i've noticed
00:26.26krat0sbbd9123: what audio problem dude?
00:26.43lpsi2000[A]is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 120 minutes
00:26.48krat0smost audio problem is fixed with the new cotulla zImage
00:26.55bbd9123on HTC tilt2
00:27.17krat0sahhhh... ooopppsss.. sorry.. i don't own a tilt2 :D
00:27.34bbd9123I ran the "BLAZN" beta v1
00:28.08bbd9123everythings seem to be working except the sound
00:28.28nineX_did you do clrcad?
00:28.43bbd9123any suggestion on how to fix it
00:28.48nineX_before you ran haret?
00:28.53FD-hd2Not hd2
00:29.00bbd9123nineX "clrcad"?
00:29.09krat0syeah, not HD2 :D
00:29.25nineX_bbd9123: are you using hd2?
00:29.41bbd9123no, I am using "HTC Tilt2"
00:29.43FD-hd2Clrcad wont help
00:29.44Ultima99he's using a tilt2
00:29.44nineX_getting confused with different conversations
00:29.46nineX_oh ok
00:30.18FD-hd2I think no audio is right
00:30.35FD-hd2Were lucky :)
00:30.53krat0syes we are :D
00:30.58bbd9123I mean not with incoming call?
00:32.47FD-hd2We are not familiar with tilt2 sorry. I'm sure someone else was here with the same problem though
00:33.24bbd9123thanks
00:33.45FD-hd2Google might help
00:34.04bbd9123If anyone else have a fix please let me know.  Thanks
00:36.23Ultima99im looking for help with getting data settings to stick (using an Alltel Touch Pro on VZW service)
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00:41.48ElBartoME~leo-ramconsole
00:41.48aptrumour has it, leo-ramconsole is pwf myramconsole 0x2FFC0000 0x40000
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00:54.56Jack-Ewow
00:55.01Jack-Eboot is a lot faster
00:56.23krat0sJack-E: on which zImage?
00:56.57Jack-EzImage.384MB
00:57.09krat0smanusfreedom's?
00:57.10Jack-Esorry for the random outburst
00:57.13Jack-Eyes
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00:57.22Jack-Elol
00:57.24krat0saren't you having the SOD issue?
00:57.32Jack-Enot yet
00:57.43David_Whats the dif. between zImage and Image
00:57.49krat0syeah.. it was a fast image.. the 384mb ram does make a difference
01:01.16krat0sDavid: i think it's just that the zImage is compressed
01:01.24krat0sthat's all i know.. :D
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01:01.49tfoutojack do you have advanced task killer?
01:04.47Jack-Eyes
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01:11.36tfoutocan you see how much memory you have left when you kill apps in TASK
01:11.49tfoutoi only get 150
01:11.54tfoutomost of the time
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01:13.04NeoFluxI had 250+
01:13.21tfoutohmmm...
01:14.33tfoutoon startup
01:14.41tfoutoset initrd_offset is important?
01:14.45tfoutoany values?
01:14.56tfoutospecific value
01:15.01NeoFluxDon't change anything other than image name and ram address
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01:15.21tfoutoi just cant get more than 180
01:15.29tfoutosometimes 200 but rarely
01:15.33tfoutofroyo?
01:15.36NeoFluxyes
01:15.43NeoFluxwhat image, 252 or 384?
01:16.21tfouto384
01:16.38NeoFluxram is a little low, most likely too many apps running, make sure you kill everything
01:17.41tfouto160
01:20.23tfoutobah
01:23.13hnamanhon boot i get about 250 free too
01:24.11tfoutocan anyone pastebin or copy paste your startup please?
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01:27.26hnamanhtfouto: http://pastebin.com/dZHb39wP
01:27.42tfoutothks
01:28.00hnamanhdont forget to change rel_path to your build folder
01:28.15NeoFluxbbs
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01:30.25tfoutorel_path to build folder?
01:30.36hnamanhwhich build are you using?
01:30.41tfoutofroyo
01:30.48hnamanhby who?
01:30.52tfoutodarkstone
01:31.10hnamanhwhat is the name of his folder? or is he using the root sdcard?
01:31.28tfoutoAndroid
01:31.41tfoutoset cmdline "lpj=638976"
01:31.59tfoutono rel_path
01:32.06hnamanhon that line copy it from the darkstone one
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01:32.42tfoutoyour ramsize is 0x0fc00000
01:32.42hnamanhcan you pastebin me the dark startup.txt
01:32.49tfoutowhich 256 MB
01:32.52hnamanhthe ramsize doesn't matter
01:32.55tfoutook
01:34.03tfoutohttp://pastebin.com/rKWerdSy
01:34.19tfoutothis is the original
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01:34.42tfoutoi changed the ramadress
01:35.32hnamanhhttp://pastebin.com/FCf6wKza
01:35.35hnamanhtry that one
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01:36.03hnamanhshould work now
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01:37.42hnamanhif you need more help go to #htc-linux-chat
01:37.58hnamanhi dont want to spam here. its for dev to read logs
01:38.31tfoutook you right
01:38.38tfoutobut the file its the same
01:39.05tfoutoi changed the ramaddress to that value
01:39.08tfoutothanks anyway
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02:00.33unclemeatHello
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02:33.21unclemeatWhile holding the volume buttons, press the END/POWER button briefly and then release it.
02:33.24unclemeatopps sory
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03:06.58Ninpophh, tmzt or ToAsTcfh any of you guys here?
03:07.08NinpoI could use a sanity check on some C if you have a moment
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03:34.08Castle`Hi all
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04:51.30danibjor~seet mattc
04:51.35danibjor~seen mattc
04:51.37apti haven't seen 'mattc', danibjor
04:51.47theredundantlol
04:51.51theredundantthink he goes by a different name
04:51.57danibjorhm
04:52.16danibjorhe mentioned getting camcorder to work on desire
04:52.34danibjoranyone know if he posted some apk's?
04:53.49mattchaven't posted any APKs yet
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04:54.00theredundantoh lol
04:54.02theredundanthes here
04:54.03theredundantweird
04:54.04danibjorwee
04:54.09mattcI'm lurking lol
04:54.18theredundantapt says he hasnt seen u :O
04:54.19theredundantghost.
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04:54.22danibjormattc, hwo big is the fix?
04:54.34mattcJust an apk so far
04:54.44danibjorboth camera and camcorder?
04:54.48mattcyes
04:54.53danibjornice
04:55.14mattcanyone know if 720p capture is in kernel?
04:55.44danibjorit's better to be sure there are no bugs.. I better beta-test that apk :P
04:56.04theredundantmattc; planning on a no-sense release?
04:56.08mattcIt has bugs, 720p crashes camcorder
04:56.22danibjoron all kernel's?
04:56.23theredundantonly your build has gangstar working for me (without crashing after entering car)
04:56.26mattcothers have no-sense
04:56.41danibjordon't quit sense ;)
04:56.44danibjorwe love it
04:56.50mattcoh, I might try to make some others without sense but I'm a sense guy
04:56.55theredundanti understand
04:57.03theredundantfair enough
04:57.06theredundanti dont like sense so
04:57.25mattcSomeone posted on the xda board how to disable sense in my build
04:58.05theredundantyeah
04:58.11theredundantjust install another launcher and default it
04:58.14danibjorwhy would you? just install a non-sense rom
04:58.21theredundantbut it runs slows down
04:58.29theredundanthis rom is the only one that can run this game w/o crashing
04:58.34danibjorwhy waste space on the phone if you don't want to use it
04:59.12mattcHave any of the other builds have HD playback?  I don't remember if mine did before or not
04:59.32danibjor480p on cyanogenmod roms
05:00.06mattcI can play the transformers that was loaded on the SD card now, I couldn't before fixing the camera.  Weird
05:00.10danibjorv1.4 runs smooth with the 384mb kernel
05:00.25mattcI was going to ask about that, I haven't tried it yet, any sod?
05:00.33danibjornot so far
05:00.45mattcsweet, low memory kills sense
05:00.51danibjorusing zImage.384MB.noPC
05:01.34danibjorpushed a new bcm4329.ko too.. and got everything but GPS working
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05:06.44danibjorjust tested - BT audio and calls also works
05:07.38mattcnice, I'm copying it over right now
05:08.35danibjorusing zImage and bcm4329.ko from here: http://htcleo.noobhands.net/manusfreedom/
05:08.46theredundantzimage384.nopc
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05:13.41dunedudeany luck with sound?
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05:23.14adioph_manusfreedom: zImage 384MB doest full charge the battery, it stops charging @ approx 90%
05:27.41danibjori would choose 384 ram over 100% battery any day
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05:30.18adioph_but runs smoothly on matts1.4
05:31.30ShadowFoxBiHruns smoothly on almost any rom
05:31.36ShadowFoxBiHSOD is an issue though
05:31.53adioph_i got no SOD
05:32.13ShadowFoxBiHwell i get no SOD on shu8i's build
05:32.20ShadowFoxBiHbut on darkstone's build i get SOD
05:32.43adioph_use this one http://htcleo.noobhands.net/manusfreedom/zImage.384MB.noPC and edit your startup.tx
05:32.46adioph_use this one http://htcleo.noobhands.net/manusfreedom/zImage.384MB.noPC and edit your startup.txt
05:33.10adioph_and get no SOD
05:33.14ShadowFoxBiHhmm alright
05:33.33adioph_been using it last night until now
05:33.59mattcWow, much faster
05:34.01ShadowFoxBiHive been using shu8i's build so its alright just i dont like how the battery heats up
05:34.33adioph_my battery goes to normal temp on standby
05:35.26ShadowFoxBiHso which build do you recommend?
05:36.05danibjorShadowFoxBiH, what radio are you on?
05:36.40ShadowFoxBiH2.10.50.26
05:37.21adioph_matts if you have bluetooth headset, if not user shu81 cyanogen
05:37.36adioph_matts if you have bluetooth headset, if not use shu81 cyanogen
05:37.51danibjork, used that for a while, but flashed back to the 2.12 version a few days back.. no problems or SOD after that, running with 384mb kernel
05:39.13ShadowFoxBiHeh 2.12 seems to drain my battery
05:39.41danibjorhm.. i actually had good battery life on cyanogenmod with the 2.10
05:40.01danibjorgotta check on mattc 1.4 + 384 + 2.12
05:40.08adioph_mattc: when is your target release for camcorder with 720P? :-)
05:40.26danibjorwhen it's done? :P
05:41.46adioph_mattc: thanks for the great build
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05:42.02ShadowFoxBiHlol damn too many builds out there to try
05:42.13ShadowFoxBiHwhy cant we have one uniforrm build
05:42.24adioph_i stick to matts
05:42.39ShadowFoxBiHi like dark and an
05:42.40ShadowFoxBiHdan*
05:43.21ShadowFoxBiHjust dan hasnt released a new build in a while
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05:44.49Linkman_sry, someone knows how to decrease touch screen sensitivity?
05:45.18adioph_dark and dan working for a new camcorder
05:45.48ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:45.52ShadowFoxBiH720p would be nice
05:46.02ShadowFoxBiHbut i dont care much for it since i dont ever take videos
05:46.22ShadowFoxBiHi want working data
05:46.41ShadowFoxBiHand maybe pm
05:46.44danibjorit would be nice just to have a button to take the picture - and start/stop recording :P
05:47.11danibjorShadowFoxBiH, data works fine on mattc's v1.4 with 384 kernel
05:47.14ShadowFoxBiHlol it would be nice if HTC just handed us their source code for the hd2
05:47.24ShadowFoxBiHdan its not fully working data
05:48.04danibjori get hsdpa
05:48.19ShadowFoxBiHyea but your actual downloads speeds arent high due to packet loss
05:48.22danibjorat least the H is there on the signal
05:48.26danibjorhmm.. true
05:49.12ShadowFoxBiHi see an H as well but i get nowhere close to the 6 mbps i usually get in win mo
05:49.33danibjorlemme do a speedtest
05:52.49danibjorwifi, 3.2 mbit/s - mobile data 0.67 mbit/s
05:52.51danibjor:/
05:52.58ShadowFoxBiHlol yeah
05:52.59ShadowFoxBiHcrap
05:53.07danibjorand we have 25 mbit broadband :S
05:53.24ShadowFoxBiHnice
05:53.26danibjorso, somthing needs to be fixed :P
05:53.31ShadowFoxBiHlol you think
05:53.50danibjornot that i download movies and shit on the phone anyway.. but speed is nice
05:53.55ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:54.09ShadowFoxBiHlol im surprised that my isp hasnt cut me off yet
05:54.14danibjorhehe
05:54.25ShadowFoxBiHi download over 400gb a month
05:54.32danibjorstill, android is good enough for daily usage
05:54.36danibjordamn :O
05:55.10ShadowFoxBiHyeah one month i hit a little over a tb
05:55.50danibjorhow big is your movie collection? :P
05:56.01ShadowFoxBiHlol i have 4 2tb hdd
05:56.07danibjorhaha
05:56.29ShadowFoxBiHi download movies in 720p usually
05:56.36ShadowFoxBiHso they take up more space
05:57.14danibjoryea, it's shit to watch old style divx on hd tv'ds
05:57.17danibjortv's *
05:57.24ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:57.34ShadowFoxBiHi try to get 1080p but 720 is fine for me
05:57.54danibjor720p and AC3 sound - and i'm happy
05:58.06ShadowFoxBiHyeah same here
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06:06.53alcyanyone ?
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06:58.43alcyanyone got a clue about "haret is not running in system mode, major functionality won't be present" ? I did get the surreal unlock app but seems that doesn't work ? I don't know $hit about windows, so any help appreciated. also, unrelated but haretconsole times out on my linux host as well
06:58.51alcyrepeats question
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07:03.27Linkman_sry, someone knows how to decrease touch screen sensitivity?
07:08.00jonpryLinkman, screen protector
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10:30.09rdsusI found motonav
10:30.21rdsusfor my hd2 ( using froyo)
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10:53.15slayernsin leo, the ati 3d acceleration chip s no enabled right?
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10:53.39slayernsapt fuck
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10:53.51slayernsit doesn't do its job
10:53.53slayernssilly apt
10:53.54slayernsanyway
10:54.01slayernsin leo, the ati 3d acceleration chip is not enabled right?
10:54.22theredundanti was hoping someone would share that information as well
10:54.42theredundantis that for tmous
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10:57.15SlayerNSno the ati chip is in all qsd8250
10:57.16SlayerNSafaik
10:57.28theredundantmkay
10:57.33SlayerNSbut i don't know whether there is a driver that uses it
10:57.45SlayerNSor it is completely disabled by hardware
10:57.57theredundantchainfire released one for winmo
10:57.59SlayerNSi would take the chance to modify hardware if it is hardware based
10:58.04ali1234i rather doubt it can be disabled in hardware
10:58.08SlayerNSthat is not ati acceleration
10:58.11SlayerNSthat is different
10:58.20SlayerNSali1234
10:58.22SlayerNSwhy
10:58.35ali1234because it would require doing a whole other run of the SoC die
10:58.36SlayerNSsimply thy might modify some input of the chip
10:58.49SlayerNSthey*
10:59.09SlayerNSi need to know whether it is enable
10:59.10SlayerNSd
10:59.32SlayerNScan we write drivers in java^^?
10:59.36SlayerNSfor android
10:59.45ali1234hah
11:00.04SlayerNSisn't non-kernel based driver possible?
11:00.09ali1234it's possible
11:00.19ali1234if you can read/write /dev/mem from java you can make a driver
11:00.23SlayerNSharder or easier than doing in kernel
11:00.25SlayerNShmm
11:00.41BigDaDDyis it possible to root froyo on hd2 throught adb shell alone?
11:00.42ali1234much harder and much slower too
11:00.47SlayerNSprobably it will be slower
11:00.48SlayerNSyeah
11:00.55SlayerNSi hate OOP:D
11:01.01SlayerNSbut all i know is OOP
11:01.14ali1234not because of oop, because of of the switch between user and kernel mode
11:01.30ali1234anyway, the driver for the ati GPU is called yamato or something
11:02.00SlayerNSafaik, OOP languages is a little bit slower since they are high level
11:02.04SlayerNSare*
11:02.10SlayerNShmm
11:02.11SlayerNSright
11:02.41ali1234that's not what high-level means... and java is slow because it is basically running inside an emulator (aka virtual machine)
11:03.01phhno
11:03.07phhjava can be compiled into machine code
11:03.14phh(ok, mostly noone does that.)
11:03.16ali1234yes, in a JIT
11:03.22SlayerNSphh,why?
11:03.24ali1234which all emulators do too nowadays
11:03.26SlayerNSpainful?
11:03.29ali1234they're still slow though
11:03.32phhSlayerNS: don't know
11:03.36phhyou ofteh hear of gcj ? :p
11:03.45SlayerNSwhy google uses java for andro
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11:03.54SlayerNS?
11:04.04phhI'm still not sure
11:04.21SlayerNSi mean for application development on android, you need to use java
11:04.22SlayerNSafaik
11:04.28phhyes yes
11:04.29SlayerNSwhich is slow as ali1234 said
11:04.35SlayerNSand graphics sucks in java
11:04.39ali1234so they can have the same app store on x86 and on arm
11:04.44phherr don't worry about graphics.
11:04.47SlayerNSwhy
11:04.57SlayerNSis it handled by something else?
11:04.58phhandroid doesn't use "normal" java api for graphics
11:05.00SlayerNSgl is no prob?
11:05.03SlayerNSah
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11:05.25ali1234android uses a virtual machine that is mostly java compatible but with a totally different standard library
11:05.30SlayerNSali1234, and what is the benefit of that since they don't have apps on x86
11:05.40ali1234they don't have apps today
11:05.52SlayerNShmm
11:05.59phhyou forgot android x86 ! p:
11:06.02ali1234also running inside a VM lets them do their crazy power-saving stuff and also sandboxing
11:06.14SlayerNSyou think android x86 coming? :P
11:06.22phhSlayerNS: android x86 already exists
11:06.25SlayerNSi thought that was chrome which is very diferent
11:06.31SlayerNShow?
11:06.37ali1234chromium os sucks, everyone knows it
11:06.42SlayerNS:D
11:06.47phhSlayerNS: google android x86 ?
11:06.53SlayerNSi didn't know about android x86
11:06.55ali1234it's literally just chrome running full screen
11:06.58SlayerNSdoin now:D
11:07.05SlayerNSali1234, yeah:D
11:07.16ali1234android was ported to x86 before the first android phone was even out
11:07.26SlayerNShmmm
11:07.29SlayerNSgoogle is greedy
11:07.31phhali1234: really ?
11:07.31phhhum
11:07.44phhAOSP was released before G1 ?
11:07.46ali1234phh: yeah really. it took them a few years to make a mouse driver though
11:07.53phh:p
11:07.57SlayerNS:D
11:08.07phhanyway, I don't think there will be a real market for android on x86
11:08.10ali1234yes, AOSP was released about 6 months to a year before the first phone
11:08.17SlayerNSphh, why?
11:08.24SlayerNStablets can be good which is its aim
11:08.28phhSlayerNS: x86 has poor battery performances.
11:08.29ali1234because x86 sucks for portable devices
11:08.33SlayerNSahhh
11:08.34phhSlayerNS: compare an x86 tablet to an arm tablet -_-'
11:08.34ali1234for that reason ^
11:08.35SlayerNSright xD
11:08.38phhjust the battery life and the weight.
11:08.43ali1234and the heat output
11:08.43phhnot mentioning the features.
11:08.50phhali1234: well that comes with the battery life :p
11:08.50SlayerNSdefinitely right
11:08.51SlayerNSi forgot
11:08.51ali1234you can't have a decent x86 without a fan
11:09.06phhanyway, I want smartbooks
11:09.26ali1234smartbooks are kind of over rated... android ones anyway
11:09.52phh(something like toshiba ac-100 or lenovo skylight)
11:10.00ali1234or a compaq airlife?
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11:10.07phhali1234: I plan on installing a real OS on it. don't worry about it.
11:10.15SlayerNSnow i am considering again, why the hell android would do then on x86 :D
11:10.19phhI've already ubuntu on my TP2, so ...... :p
11:10.27ali1234https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=tree;f=drivers/gpu/msm;h=dcacc55d835348f71454784c0e32b819424af4be;hb=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32
11:10.38ali1234i do believe this is the qsd graphics driver ^
11:10.42ali1234open source part anyway
11:10.47ali1234you need a binary blob too
11:10.54phhali1234: yup
11:11.18phhyou guessed that because it's called gpu/msm ? :p
11:11.26SlayerNS:p
11:11.31phhhum, the android-msm-2.6.32 tree has g12 support ?
11:11.33ali1234no, i recognized the "yamato" bit, which is how the blob is named
11:11.34phhweird.
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11:12.15ali1234so, the compaq airlife is qsd8250 and has the blob installed for 3d support
11:12.22ali1234that's where i saw it
11:12.27phhali1234: yeah
11:12.35phhairlife is android ?
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11:12.42ali1234yes
11:12.46ali12341.6 though
11:13.02phhI'd like to see chrome os for qsd8250
11:13.05phhto have 3D/X11 drivers
11:13.17ali1234the toshiba one looks a lot better
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11:13.39phhyeah the toshiba ones looks incredible
11:13.49phhbut the lenovo skylight with qsd8672
11:13.49phh<3
11:14.31phh(dual core 1.3GHz + 1080p playback + *4 3D performances compared to 8250)
11:14.53phhit's just what netbook should have been.
11:15.26ali1234yeah, my netbook can't even get close to 1080p playback
11:15.42ali1234i could install a bcm decoder card but then i'd have no wifi
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11:16.08slayernsall present netbooks sucks
11:16.18slayernsvery bad perf even on xp
11:16.41ali1234windows -_-
11:16.57slayernsyeah
11:17.10slayernsbut atom isn't good to
11:17.11slayernstoo*
11:17.11ollip79http://www.slashgear.com/aava-mobile-intel-moorestown-mid-hands-on-1674254/  this is what android x86 is for
11:17.46dcordes-webhi
11:18.14dcordes-webintel moorestone...
11:19.05phhollip79: battery life ? :p
11:19.12phhanyway I've heard about moorestone for years now
11:19.13dcordes-webdont know what to think of it
11:19.41slayernsis andorid sdk 2.2 for windows buggy?
11:19.49slayernsi mean buggier than for linux?
11:19.54dcordes-webI dont see chance for it in the handset area
11:20.05ollip79battery life is still to early to say.. from the numbers of intel its still no way near the ARMs
11:20.05dcordes-webslayerns: yes
11:20.28theredundanthow buggy is buggy?
11:20.29slayernsbig difference?
11:20.34theredundantworks fine for me
11:21.08dcordes-webof course intel meego is available for moorestone
11:21.14phhollip79: wait. current smartphones can barely do the day... their stuff can barely do the houor ? :p
11:21.16slayernsi mean for instance, iphone simulator and iphone itself is different enough to make apps that doesn't work quite good on the phone
11:21.16dcordes-web:>
11:21.18slayernsis it like it?
11:21.28spastikmanI would say that the problem is not in the SDK but in the IDE (which in my case is the eclipse) :p
11:21.32dcordes-webslayerns: #android
11:21.41slayernsok i shut u
11:21.42slayernsp
11:21.48spastikmanI hate develop android applications using eclipse
11:21.56slayernswhy
11:22.25ali1234slayerns: the android emulator is qemu, i doubt there will be a difference between running it on windows vs linux... still might not match real hardware though
11:22.35spastikmanbecause it is full of bugs ... it is slow ... auto complete doesn't work... and it crashes frequently
11:22.38spastikman:p
11:22.49slayernshave you tried 2.2
11:22.49slayerns?
11:22.50spastikmangoogle should have developed its own IDE
11:22.52ali1234eclipse is pretty horrible bad to use
11:22.55spastikmanlike visual studio :D
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11:23.02slayernsah
11:23.03slayernsok
11:23.04slayerns:D
11:23.15slayernswrite it on notepad :D
11:23.19spastikmanLOL
11:23.22ali1234i would be happy if they took their inventor thing and added a window where i can just edit the code instead of play with jigsaws
11:23.26spastikmanthat would make things even harder
11:23.27spastikman:D
11:23.36slayernsbut neat :P
11:23.39spastikmanali1234: exactly !
11:24.13slayernsvisual studio is good afaik
11:24.17slayernsdeveloper friendly
11:25.48spastikmanindeed
11:26.10spastikmanand because of that, productivity grows
11:26.14slayernsyeah
11:26.46slayernshow is androi development in eclipse compared to iApps on xcode
11:26.48spastikmanif android had a similar IDE, it would have much more applications available
11:27.02slayernsdefinitely
11:27.09spastikmannever tried using the iphone sdk
11:27.16spastikmanonly wimo and android
11:27.20slayernsit is the only reason that i like ms about
11:27.27spastikmanyes
11:27.40slayernsi also don't suggest to use :D if you get used to VS
11:27.44spastikmanit is much more easy to develop applications for windows mobile than it is for android
11:27.45slayernsit is pain in xcode
11:27.55slayernsbut winmo sucks at app xD
11:27.59spastikmantrue
11:28.02spastikman:D
11:28.08slayernsbut that is related to marketing i guess
11:28.26dcordes-webali1234: any progress with the omap panel detection?
11:28.29slayernsmaybe a little slow
11:28.34slayernsvery :d
11:28.35slayerns:D
11:29.39slayernsanyway
11:29.40slayernsgotta go
11:29.41slayernsc ya
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11:35.57spastikmanHi Cotulla :>
11:35.58Cotullalogs are funny ^_^
11:36.22firkosahey guy has anybody tried the new update on Rhodium is the sound working ?
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11:36.52manusfreedomhi
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11:37.03dcordes_Cotulla: hi
11:37.14manusfreedomdcordes_: any news about GIT?
11:37.43firkosaCAB - Android v2.2 Froyo: BLAZN View Android v2.2 Froyo: 700MHz Overclock // Auto Memory Manager // ClockSync // BLAZN Theme w/ transparent notification tray // Bloatware Removed // LauncherPro Home // 2D Gallery for Rhodium Compatibility // Start Menu Shortcut // WM Start-up Utility w/ Update Tool  14 hours ago
11:37.57dcordes_manusfreedom: yes I post the patch later that day on ml
11:38.06Cotullahey dcordes
11:38.10dcordes_firkosa: aha the blazn. of course
11:38.27firkosais the sound work for Rhodium :))
11:38.29firkosaman :)
11:38.30ali1234dcordes_: no, i'm taking a break from it :)
11:38.42dcordes_firkosa: this isn't #android-kitchen sorry
11:38.58firkosaok :)
11:39.03firkosabb man :)
11:39.06firkosatnx for info
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11:47.02theredundantCotulla; whys log funny
11:47.55CotullaQSD8250 have ATI Z430 which is working in Android :)
11:48.00adioph_cotulla, yay!!!
11:48.09CotullaAndreno200
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11:49.02theredundantfer reals
11:49.12theredundantbut is it 'activated' ?
11:49.42huggy_72...wich is working...?
11:49.59theredundantokay :P
11:51.17adioph_Cotulla:any idea why zImage 384MB can charge only 90% approx?
11:51.41manusfreedomadioph_: don't ask Cotulla it's not his image
11:51.42theredundanti have that problem since early kernels
11:52.06LordDeathwhere can I get a 384mb enabling zimage?
11:52.16luc_with zImage 384MB battery drain
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11:52.20adioph_manusfreedom:sorry, just ask it to you then?, thanks
11:52.27theredundantanyway, what i wantedt o ask is if it is optimized, the 3d acceleration
11:52.33Padre|WorkLordDeath, http://htcleo.noobhands.net/manusfreedom/zImage.384MB.noPC
11:52.50LordDeathPadre|Work: thx
11:52.57Cotullayes, manusfreedom right
11:53.12Cotullaeven battery support declared as "in testing"
11:53.16Cotullaso it's normal if u got 90%
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11:53.37Cotullawanna help - logs in studio...err in chat
11:54.30huggy_72manusfredom: why i have this  output
11:54.31huggy_72# dmesg|grep battery
11:54.33huggy_72dmesg|grep battery
11:54.34huggy_72<6>[16732.507700] active wake lock htcleo-battery
11:54.36huggy_72<6>[16745.136294] active wake lock htcleo-battery
11:54.38huggy_72<6>[17804.538132] active wake lock htcleo-battery
11:54.47huggy_72manusfreedom: *
11:55.27adioph_sry, no idea about C programming
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11:55.52LordDeathPadre|Work: do I need to change the startup.txr?
11:55.58LordDeathtxt
11:56.07luc_yes
11:56.31LordDeathwhat exactly?
11:57.09phhcyanogen: hum, why is there debug.sf.hw=0 in your default build.prop ?
11:57.19phhsomeone's building CM6 for liquid, and it was slow because of this
11:58.14Ninpophh: Figured that shit out
11:58.17Ninpowith the cpu governor
11:58.22phhNinpo: ah, gimme
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11:58.59LordDeathguys, can you help me with the startup.txt for the 384mb zimage please?
11:59.09Ninpowell I'll tell you what it was that was causing the panic, I'll release the patch once the governor is FULLY working (it panics if you switch to it from another governor atm)
11:59.16dcordes_Cotulla: what is going on when the batterey is fully charged and AC is connected ?
11:59.25dcordes_Cotulla: (green LED)
11:59.28Ninpophh: basically the ARM arch in 2.6.29 has no protection for setting pm_idle = null
11:59.39Ninpoand the governor was allowing it
11:59.47BigDaDDyis it possible to root froyo on hd2 through adb shell alone?
11:59.48phhNinpo: ah
11:59.55dcordes_Cotulla: independent of driver. assume wince
12:00.00Ninpoby not checking that variables had been initialised before setting pm_idle to them
12:01.49Cotulladcordes, u talk about HW?
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12:02.00dcordes_Cotulla: yep
12:02.05Cotullanothing happen
12:02.17BigDaDDy~seen parad0xua
12:02.20aptparad0xua <~paradoxua@rrcs-69-193-179-210.nyc.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 13h 19m 15s ago, saying: 'yw :)'.
12:02.30BigDaDDydamn :P that is a long time ago
12:03.00dcordes_Cotulla: i.e. ?
12:03.24Cotullait's SW world
12:03.51dcordes_the charging mechanism ?
12:03.55Cotullayes
12:03.59CrashmanI think dcordes wants to know, if it can overcharge the battery
12:04.01dcordes_doesn
12:04.06Cotullaonly inital charging when low power done by hardware
12:04.07dcordes_the battery explode ?
12:04.20Cotullano, DS2745 protects from it
12:04.32Cotullaalso driver turn off charging at high temperature
12:04.37dcordes_aha
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12:04.52LordDeathdamn
12:05.10dcordes_Cotulla: is the datasheet public ?
12:05.21dcordes_Cotulla: I want to understand how it works
12:05.33Cotullagoogle DS2745
12:05.33LordDeathafter this wrong faulty android start with the wrong startup.txt my HD2 has now problems with recognizing the SD card :-(
12:05.38Cotullaoh no DS2746
12:07.02Ninpophh: I am now figuring out how to configure ramconsole
12:07.18Ninpoto get better idea as to why the phone freezes (no reboot, hard lockup) when I switch to the governor from another
12:07.39phhNinpo: hum I'm pretty sure it's enabled by default for you
12:08.03Ninpoyeah but I've enabled so much debugging stuff and the last_kmsg is so big it's getting corrupted at the end
12:08.51Ninpoat least I assume that's why
12:08.51Ninpobefore I turned on practically every debug option it displayed fine
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12:17.58LordDeath9404 active users in the xda-devs forum -.-
12:18.10LordDeathwhat server is it running on?
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12:22.45Art-Xheya Elbar
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12:23.18Art-X<Art-X> ElBartoME: with your zImage, when you enable Bluetooth, TS gets very unresponsive
12:23.40ElBartoMEwhich zimage? Oo
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12:24.16ElBartoME~seen Parad0XUA
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12:25.08Art-XElBartoME: oeh my bad, Manus did this one I think.. zImage.384MB.noPC, sorry :p
12:25.37Art-Xbows his head in shame
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12:26.36gauner1986heyho
12:26.41ElBartoMEhi
12:26.51gauner1986any news? :)
12:27.29ElBartoMEguess not, not sure
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12:30.07dcordes_anybody who's interested in xf86-video-msm ?
12:30.22gauner1986dcordes_ did you finally manage to get it working?
12:31.03unclemeatIs wifi not working with 8/5 kernel?
12:31.57manusfreedomhi
12:32.02gauner1986hey
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12:49.56luc_what build do you use
12:50.04luc_darkstone
12:50.29luc_sry
12:51.06luc_wrong window
12:52.50Guest81817Cotulla, do you have plans to release a z
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12:53.10Guest81817zimage with 512mb when it works well?
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13:00.53maricsmithhello gents.
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13:10.51adioph_gauner: what is a z?
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13:20.38Cotullawho tell android is slow on LEO?
13:20.56gauner1986it is?
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13:21.00gauner1986didnt know
13:21.01gauner1986:P
13:21.11Cotullahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-GtRY--D90
13:21.22Cotullawho think slow look this video
13:21.37kefir=)
13:22.03Art-Xstill waiting for the bootup... <taps foot>
13:22.04fakkersup
13:22.23gauner1986hey fakker
13:22.31Art-Xyawns :p
13:22.33fakker:)
13:22.41gauner1986uh
13:22.47gauner1986it got past the kernel logs
13:22.57gauner1986after 1:20
13:23.27FlawlesStylelol
13:23.37fakkerleast they didnt have speedy issue
13:23.56gauner1986they have a slowness issue
13:23.59fakker:D
13:24.08fakkeri'd laugh, after all that wait - gsod
13:24.09Art-XCotulla: I've seen a friend of mine boot android on the HTC wizard.. it was faster than this
13:24.59gauner1986that phone looks ugly
13:25.07fakkeri'd buy that for a dollar
13:25.08fakkergahuahah
13:25.19gauner1986not sure if that isn't too much
13:25.31CrashmanI think they have two problems: 1) No HD2 2) No Cotulla :D
13:25.37fakkeri was just quoting robocop ;)
13:25.46gauner1986:P
13:26.32krat0sArt-X: have your friend boot winmo on his wizard if he/she can..
13:26.33krat0s:D
13:26.37fakkerhometime
13:26.38fakkeri be back soon
13:26.54gauner1986you mean:
13:26.58gauner1986i'll be back
13:27.12phhor not
13:27.13Art-Xkrat0s, that's what he normally has: winmo 6.5 (I believe)
13:27.28krat0si mean beat the hd2 on booting time
13:27.50Art-Xwizard boot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RzlJrOBUfU (start at 1:42 to be fair)
13:27.51krat0sit's winmo 5
13:28.30Art-Xkrat0s not his :-) he updated the rom
13:29.06krat0si still don't think that it can beat HD2 on booting with their native os
13:29.32gauner1986nothing can beat a hd2 port till now
13:29.47Art-Xgauner1986: u bet!
13:29.50krat0syup!
13:31.46Art-Xstill for a wizard it looks pretty smooth considering the cpu etc.
13:32.21gauner1986true
13:34.09ali1234hey my video :)
13:34.12phhNinpo: any working patch ? :D
13:34.12krat0sbut they've been working on the port for a longg time.. while the hd2 just started just over a month ago
13:34.16gauner1986thought so
13:34.16gauner1986:D
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13:35.15krat0sanyone know about this low power kernel release whether it came with the 384mb zImage?
13:35.15Ninpophh: not yet, still trying to find this fuckin null pointer it's dragging in from some hellhole deep in the htc source
13:35.25phhNinpo: ah
13:35.29ali1234my wizard has 5.3 t-mobile official rom... cos i don't like unofficial roms
13:35.32Ninpophh: it works fine, so long as you have it as default and your only governor
13:35.37krziei have a topaz (diamond2), i extracted XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.29.7.10.RC2.1.7z to my sd card root per the directions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493    but when i run haret.exe it just reboots windows
13:35.42krzieany suggestions?
13:36.03ali1234android 1.5 does run pretty smooth on it, but then the first android versions were developed on similar hardware
13:36.04phhkrzie: #xdandroid
13:36.10Ninpophh: I have a trace if you fancy having a look with us
13:36.18krzieahh cool thanx, so many channels :)
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13:47.36gauner1986did someone experiment with ppp lately? ^^
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14:08.37gauner1986strace pppd doesnt really work :(
14:08.51flagadahi thx its really good now with 384 mo and wifi :p
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14:10.50flagadathe first dan1j3l without sens of 13/07/10  working really good with all update
14:11.33Art-Xtried ppp on the road with maps navigation.. was a disaster
14:12.13gauner1986pppd seems to crash immediatly for me after start
14:12.35flagadahttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q1ACLMKX
14:12.38Art-XI have the feeling that when connection is lost, regaining it is the problem
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14:14.06Art-Xbut the same happens with wifi
14:14.24phhleviathan: what's the status of xf86-video-msm on G1 again ?
14:14.26Art-Xif you walk out of range, it has trouble reconnecting
14:14.35phhor dcordes_ perhaps ?
14:15.54maricsmithAnyone know where i can find a copy of swype for my hd2?
14:16.16spastikmanswype would be nice :D
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14:24.42manusfreedomI get a 512MB kernel booting without whitescreen
14:24.51gauner1986neat
14:24.51ElBartoMEit's working?
14:25.00manusfreedombut it freeze before displaying the interface
14:25.05gauner1986not neat
14:25.06gauner1986:P
14:25.06ElBartoMEhm
14:25.09manusfreedomlol
14:25.22manusfreedom~leo-ramconsole
14:25.23aptfrom memory, leo-ramconsole is pwf myramconsole 0x2FFC0000 0x40000
14:28.35manusfreedomhow can we clear all the ram before booting?
14:29.09manusfreedombecause I think we have some data staying in
14:29.35Art-Xmaybe u can run memmaid
14:29.37Ninpophh: Do you know of any decent tools to decipher this with? http://pastebin.com/bXPtDH3c
14:29.41Ninpoor anyone
14:30.00phhNinpo: brain :p
14:30.03phhbut your paste is wrong
14:30.07ElBartoMEmemaid does not wipe all the ram
14:30.16ElBartoME*memmaid
14:30.26Ninpophh: what do you mean it's wrong
14:30.31manusfreedomor do in very start of kernel before allow memory to device and other?
14:30.48phhNinpo: line 7 and 14 sounds familiar.
14:30.55gauner1986manusfreedom: why do you want to do that?
14:31.04NinpoI just grabbed a random cross section since it all looks similar
14:31.26Ninpothen I get lots of these
14:31.27Ninpo[<c0210c74>] (cpufreq_idle+0x0/0x74) from [<c0210c94>] (cpufreq_idle+0x20/0x74) r4:c041c000 r3:c0210c74
14:31.30Ninpo[<c0210c74>] (cpufreq_idle+0x0/0x74) from [<c0210c94>] (cpufreq_idle+0x20/0x74)
14:31.37Cotullagauner1986, that there with ppp?
14:31.45manusfreedomgauner1986: because we can't be sure that we don't have some data where we must not have it
14:31.58Cotullaand with liblights
14:32.03Cotulla:P
14:32.04gauner1986cotulla: ?
14:32.15gauner1986manusfreedom: ok
14:32.57Cotullayes
14:33.00gauner1986cotulla: pppd executes, but does nothing afterwards it seems.. it doesn't show in ps
14:33.03Art-Xhow come there is so much difference between battery drain between builds?
14:33.19Cotullaoh
14:33.22Art-Xin*
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14:33.29gauner1986cotulla: strace shows execution, but nothing afterwards.. dunno if that is due to the nature of daemons
14:33.49Cotullawhat about rild?
14:34.24ElBartoMEgauner1986: it seems to be on cm. letama have it working on xdandroid froyo and i got it working on cotulla's eclair build.
14:34.40gauner1986elbartome: mhm..
14:34.58gauner1986cotulla: rild seems to run fine with the generic lib
14:35.07gauner1986cotulla: everything works, but data
14:35.10Cotullareally fine?
14:35.15Cotullaor "just working"?
14:35.28ElBartoMEthe modem sometimes crashes
14:35.31gauner1986yeah
14:35.37gauner1986and sometimes everything hangs
14:35.39gauner1986^^
14:35.51Cotullaok clear now...
14:35.57Cotullawhat about liblights?
14:36.47gauner1986put all my researchtime into ppp until now :)
14:37.03Cotullaok
14:37.19gauner1986but that generic ril lib seems to have some issues.. as reception is horrible with it
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14:38.30gauner1986maybe it's better to patch the proprietary htc ril.. if you know how to do it ^^
14:38.59Cotullaofcourse better
14:39.10Cotullait's quality tested by HTC
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14:41.55gauner1986cotulla: how can i find out how to talk to the lights? what's the best way? haret?
14:43.09CotullaI ask about android library only... there no work with HW
14:43.13Cotullaonly with SYSFS
14:43.40gauner1986if that's the case it will probably not be difficult
14:43.46Cotullayes
14:43.57Cotullabut no one want to do it
14:44.25gauner1986i wanted.. but it wasn't clear to me that it's just sysfs :)
14:44.30tfouto_manusfreedom: maybe this is a really stupid question but, is it possible to create a 490 or a somehow less than 512 MBram image?
14:44.48Cotullahm I said it several times
14:44.54Cotullajust liblights with access sysfs
14:45.07Cotullathere screen backlight
14:45.09Cotullakey light
14:45.12Cotullaand one led
14:45.15gauner1986ok
14:45.17Cotullawith 7 states
14:45.21Cotullaread logs
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14:45.25Cotullathere all information
14:45.28gauner1986i saw it
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14:46.38gauner1986"/sys/class/leds" just contains flashlight and lcd-backlight
14:46.39gauner1986mhm
14:46.51Cotullayes
14:46.56Cotullathere also will be
14:46.58Cotullakeylight
14:47.18Cotullahttp://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/msm7k.git;a=blob;f=liblights/lights.c;h=af435c3ee5d6f40af50e1c83c5ff1ce58fabb712;hb=852205246a4b9cf2bea4ca42b5c52a6798cb37b4
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14:48.13manusfreedomwihtout wifi enable I get the android interface display!! but freeze too...
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14:48.35gauner1986cotulla: ah ok.. so it's not implemented yet in kernel, but you want the library before to test?
14:49.31Cotullayes
14:49.36Cotullait's too simple I/F
14:49.42Cotullaso there should not be problems
14:49.59Cotulla"/sys/class/leds/button-backlight/brightness"
14:50.00Cotulla"/sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness"
14:50.16Cotulla"/sys/class/leds/main/brightness"
14:50.24Cotulla"/sys/class/leds/amber/control" (?)
14:50.31Cotullaor maybe merge brightness with control
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14:50.47gauner1986control's just on off?
14:50.55Cotullacontrol - 7 states
14:51.02gauner1986ah ok
14:51.32gauner1986but i guess we don't have brightness for that leds? never seen them become brighter or darker
14:54.23Cotullano
14:54.31Cotulla7 states
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14:59.23Cotullafck two mouses
15:02.08leviathanphh: we do neither have rotation nor do we have 3d on xf86-video-msm
15:02.13leviathanin OE
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15:10.21phhleviathan: but 2D is accelerated ?
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15:10.33leviathanphh: yes
15:10.55phhno rotation = no xrandr rotation ?
15:10.58phhbut can be set in config file ?
15:11.03leviathanyes
15:11.13phhi'll take that.
15:11.17leviathanwe just don't have randr extensions
15:11.19phhi've just no clue how I'll build it
15:11.34leviathanphh: we have a recipe in OE
15:11.42leviathanalready with all the needed patches
15:11.44leviathanuse this
15:11.57phhleviathan: I don't want to rebuild a full distrib :p
15:13.06phhleviathan: do you have an url for the recipe and patches ?
15:13.26leviathanhmm
15:13.28leviathanmom
15:14.15leviathanhttp://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/xorg-driver/xf86-video-msm
15:14.28phhthanks
15:14.29BigDaDDyanyone got 384mb, bt, usb host and root permissions to work?
15:14.31leviathanhttp://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/xorg-driver/xf86-video-msm_git.bb
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15:18.18Art-Xdo I see correctly in lights.c that the top led is an RGB led? so also blue?
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15:19.40crackmanusfeedom the 384 did you use pm.sleep_Mode = 0?
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15:21.04phhleviathan: do you have a built one available ? :D
15:21.52leviathanhmm
15:21.53leviathannope
15:21.55leviathan:-)
15:22.07phhOKAY, I'll build it
15:22.08phhfrom my TP2
15:22.10phhthat's going to be funny.
15:22.34leviathanphh: are all people somewhere on the road with a mobile in the claws?? O_o
15:22.47leviathanand am I the only one behind a workstation right now?
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15:22.57phhleviathan: na I'm on my desktop right now
15:23.00phhbut cross building is annoying
15:23.05leviathanahaa
15:23.06leviathanok
15:23.20leviathanphh: try scratchbox
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15:35.51leviathanspastikman: lol
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16:05.57huggy_72anyone know was is corect memory adress to try zImage.FULLRAM.noPC from manusfreedom ?
16:06.10huggy_72i mean on startup.txt
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16:08.01tfouto_its not working yet
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16:12.41huggy_72ask for memory adress not if its working :)
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16:14.46tfouto_:)
16:15.37manusfreedomdon't use it for the moment
16:16.47gauner1986are you still on 512 mb?
16:16.48gauner1986:P
16:17.18manusfreedomyes just try something
16:17.24gauner1986hm
16:17.41manusfreedomall whitescreen is problem with addressing...
16:19.03BigDaDDyis it possible to root froyo thought adb alone?
16:19.11BigDaDDythrough*
16:19.35ElBartoMEchmod 4755 /bin/su
16:19.55ElBartoMEshould do it
16:19.56BigDaDDy# chmod 4755 /bin/su
16:19.56BigDaDDychmod 4755 /bin/su
16:19.56BigDaDDychmod: /bin/su: Read-only file system
16:20.03ElBartoMEyou have to remount
16:20.20ElBartoMEadb shell mount -o remount,rw /system
16:22.42huggy_72so if you can determine how many ram still used
16:22.50huggy_72you also can decrease a little
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17:00.18flagadahi
17:00.58flagadawhat is number edit in startup.txt with the last full ram size pleaze
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17:02.07huggy_72no need for read log
17:02.09huggy_72is only 10 line up the answer....
17:02.10huggy_72O_o
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17:05.35flagada:s
17:09.30flagadaplease startup.txt whit full ram please
17:10.53Dr`RyderFull ram doesn't work.
17:11.00Dr`RyderIf you read the logs, you'll see that.
17:11.26phh[acl]: err, concerning sound, in wince's dll I can see weird accesses to ad5base+ 0xc0000c
17:11.32flagadaplease startup.txt whit full ram please ?
17:11.36flagadasorru
17:11.39flagadasorry
17:11.39Dr`Ryderflagada: FULL RAM DOESNT WORK
17:11.41phh[acl]: ever heard of it ?
17:11.44flagadayes
17:11.48flagadai konw now
17:11.56flagadawhere is log
17:12.04huggy_72flagada ???
17:12.05huggy_72manusfreedom>don't use it for the moment
17:12.24[acl]phh: havent even looked at it. maybe jonpry ? i havent completely jumped on the sound bandwagon
17:12.32flagadaDr`Ryder> If you read the logs, you'll see that.
17:12.37phh[acl]: well jonpry isn't here :p
17:12.38huggy_72[18:15]
17:12.41Dr`RyderNothing to read now.
17:12.44Dr`RyderWe just told you.
17:12.58flagadaokok
17:13.02Dr`RyderWe're not going to help you break your phone so you can come back whining on how to fix it.
17:13.06flagadaim return at 384 :p
17:13.10[acl]phh: ima have to talk to him about it. You back to disassembling ?
17:13.15phh[acl]: yeah
17:14.06flagadathe best build :p
17:14.28flagadafroyo wuithout sens version 1 of 13/07/10
17:14.47flagadawith all update its very good build
17:15.06Dr`Ryderflagada: Take the off-topic chat to #htc-linux-caht
17:15.10flagadadan1j3l :p
17:15.12Dr`Ryder#htc-linux-chat *
17:15.18flagadayes im go ryder
17:16.01flagadahttp://depositfiles.com/files/vbhyaflbw test that :p
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17:17.18[acl]phh: only thing ive been studying is dzo's code. i see now why he made the changes.
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17:17.36phh[acl]: ah ?
17:17.41[acl]phh: most of the irq and grp changes he made was for nand boot
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17:17.50phhah right
17:18.09[acl]phh: i tried all the changes. They dont break the kernel but it dont help the irq issue
17:18.24phh[acl]: concerning irq issue, WisTilt2 has some things
17:19.28[acl]phh: do tell .. or do i need to hunt down logs
17:19.41phh[acl]: neither.
17:19.47phhI'll let him tell you
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17:22.28[acl]phh: also what happened to your friend who had some documentation ?
17:22.38phh[acl]: WisTilt2 is this guy :p
17:23.17[acl]NICE
17:23.23[acl]WisTilt2: dood.. spill it
17:23.54[acl]phh: he must be sleeping
17:23.59phhno he is not
17:24.04[acl]phh: shy?
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17:45.07ToAsTcfhphh: u know of any reason htc_wifi_nvs would cause an early panic
17:45.09ToAsTcfh?
17:46.16ToAsTcfhbasically all my board files and everything else is initing but htc_wifi_nvs is panicing really early
17:46.35phhany trace ?
17:46.41ToAsTcfhno console
17:47.02ToAsTcfhi moved it to late init and it just panics then
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17:47.15ToAsTcfhhold up ill show u my source
17:47.42ToAsTcfhphh: http://github.com/toastcfh/cm-kernel/commit/679b089082d96b483b3546fc139d6d09da01ad14#commitcomment-123129
17:48.07phhthat's a patch not a source -_-'
17:48.10ToAsTcfhnotice the line i have commented out in board-ss-wifi.c
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17:49.07ToAsTcfhwhen i uncomment that line i get a early panic. like real early
17:49.50ToAsTcfhbut when i comment it out it just panics on board-ss-wifi-init
17:50.03ToAsTcfhi dont get it
17:51.05ToAsTcfhi tried to just not build the htc_wifi_nvs.o and the board-wifi. but then i get a really early init panic still
17:51.51ToAsTcfhive disabled wifi, rfkill, and mmc all at once and still get the same thing
17:52.39ToAsTcfhphh: thats my working tree. on branch master
17:53.20phhToAsTcfh: you're telling me that commenting it out makes it work .
17:53.23phh?*
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17:53.42phhwhile it needs the ptr addr to be right on the line right after it
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17:54.13ToAsTcfhwell when i comment it outr i dont get an early panic. i get a panic on board-ss-wifi-init
17:54.55ToAsTcfhthe ptr line after it in the init causes that panic
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17:55.38ToAsTcfhbut when i uncomment it the panic happens before even msm_pm_init happens
17:56.09ToAsTcfhbtw this sux because im using reboot to track my way through the kernel
17:56.23[ad]ist away (bye)
17:56.29ToAsTcfhreboot_reason()
17:58.28ToAsTcfhi njust dont see how that line can cause a panic so early when i set htc_wifi_nvs to have a late init
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17:59.23ToAsTcfhi dont understand what that line im commenting out is effecting so early in init
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17:59.30ali1234ToAsTcfh: you cmmented a function prototype?
18:00.36ToAsTcfhwell when i uncomment it it causes a early panic. when i comment it, it panics in the next init which is board-wifi
18:00.44ali1234that won't actually have any effect on the final result beyond that the compiler won't know how to call that function properly and will just crash out when it tries
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18:01.17ali1234you need to find where that function is actually used
18:01.41ToAsTcfhive tried and dont see anything of use that early on
18:01.56ToAsTcfhno way to debug the shit either
18:02.06ali1234commenting the prototype is not going to do anything good... ever
18:02.15ToAsTcfhi know
18:02.28ali1234don't you have kernel console on screen?
18:02.32ToAsTcfhit s just me trying to see how far im getting in init
18:02.36ToAsTcfhno
18:02.41ali1234why ever not?
18:02.44ToAsTcfhim in init stagew 7
18:03.06ToAsTcfhalmost to ramconsole
18:03.21ali1234bluetooth is init before framebuffer?
18:03.56ToAsTcfhthis panic happens before msm_pm_init
18:04.10ToAsTcfhwhen uncommented
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18:04.36ToAsTcfhwhen commented out i see that everything inits fine but that
18:04.45ali1234well instead of commenting the prototype, you should comment the body of the function wherever that is defined
18:05.08ToAsTcfhtried and it causes another early init panic
18:05.21ali1234ok so then that function isn't your problem
18:05.45ali1234what happens when you don't give the prototype is that you end up corrupting the stack and random undefined things happen
18:06.19ali1234like jumping right over a whole load of code into another random place in the kernel
18:06.35ali1234in this case, jumping over the real error code, but then eventually crashing due to the stack being corrupt
18:06.36ToAsTcfh:/
18:07.26LSnake_no adress for FullRam zimage?
18:08.01LSnake_i was trying 0x24000000 but dont work
18:08.02ToAsTcfhso its in my board files somewhere and im just tricking it into initing as far as it is?
18:08.08ali1234basically yeah
18:08.18ali1234earlycon is really useful in cases like that
18:08.23ali1234you would get the stacktrace
18:08.27ali1234then you'd know where the real problem is
18:08.49ToAsTcfhi need a way to debug this shit
18:08.50ali1234but i guess QSD doesn't have "normal" uarts to use for that
18:09.13ali1234have you got some LEDs on GPIO?
18:09.33ToAsTcfhnot sure but i think its all microp
18:09.47ali1234i'm not familiar with QSD hardware stuff
18:10.03ToAsTcfhits just like msm7k
18:10.07ali1234except that everything is on the stupid shared memory that makes it impossible to use
18:10.08ToAsTcfhwell kinda
18:10.18ali1234i don't know much about msm either
18:10.23ToAsTcfh:/
18:10.59ToAsTcfhi guess im gonna have to start over
18:11.05phhleviathan: meeeeeeeeh xorg-server >= 1.6.3
18:11.20ToAsTcfhive fuct something up
18:11.23LSnake_no adress for FullRam zimage? [12:07], i was trying 0x24000000 but dont work.. anyone know what is the address?
18:11.52ToAsTcfh0x20000000?
18:12.10ToAsTcfhfor qsd
18:12.24LSnake_for full ram?
18:12.33LSnake_0.20000000 is for 384mb
18:12.52ToAsTcfhok i could be wrong :x
18:13.27phhno you're right
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18:14.25ali1234oh Markinus is here :)
18:14.37leviathanphh: what?
18:14.39LSnake_0x2000000 for 574MB?
18:14.50leviathanis that version a problem?
18:14.51phhleviathan: xf86-video-msm requires xorg-serevr >= 1.6.3
18:14.55phhI only have 1.6.0
18:15.01phhstupid distrib
18:15.01leviathanphh: what distro?
18:15.06phhubuntu 9.04
18:15.09leviathanuhm
18:15.14leviathantry scratchbox
18:15.17leviathanwith debian sid
18:15.18phhcan't update because of floating point.
18:15.20leviathanfor arm
18:15.33ali1234try gentoo embedded :)
18:15.34phhit's not build-time dependence, it's runtime
18:15.35phhaccording to the code.
18:15.49phh(they use DRI2 which is only in 1.6.3)
18:16.02phhali1234: I'll wait for a proper port to TP2.
18:16.17ali1234what you say?
18:16.20ToAsTcfh'ToAsTcfh gets ready to point a gun at his kernel source'
18:16.25leviathanphh: http://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/scratchbox-on-ubuntu/
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18:20.20ali1234Markinus: did you ever have success with lcd detection?
18:20.43Markinusali1234: I thought it's complete? I never tested it
18:20.45LSnake_ok. finally i get full ram working on my android :D
18:20.58ali1234Markinus: perhaps but i am seeking more general knowledge on how it works
18:21.19ali1234specifically the stuff where you read from the pixel bus (r0, g0, b0 etc)
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18:21.40ali1234this technique is used on a lot of htc boards
18:22.34ali1234i am trying to figure out if it is a function of the panel or the board itself (ie pull resistors on the data bus)
18:22.35Markinusali1234: I have to look, moment
18:23.01ali1234i suspect the latter, meaning the panel should be off when you try to detect
18:23.15shatterv2Far as the 384 zImage from manusfreedom, what do we need to edit in startup? Ive changed ramddr to 20
18:23.42ali1234also i looked in the code for i think vogue? yesterday and the lcd detect in that tree has been commented... "this should detect the lcd... but it doesn't work"
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18:25.25ali1234every board i ever tried it on returns 1 on every pixel bit... that could be because i did it wrong, or it could be because every board i tried it on really is supposed to return 1 on those bits
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18:26.25Markinusali1234: DetectA UO panel by reading, LCD_R0=1, LCD_G0=1,LCD_B0=1
18:26.25Markinusthere are =1 auo, =4 samsung, and =10 sharp panels, + 3 auo options depending on the board id
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18:26.39Cotullahi Markinus\
18:26.51Markinusali1234:
18:26.51Markinusif board is !bcc4 then auo normal
18:26.51Markinusif board !bcs 3 then auo 2.8
18:26.51Markinuselse auo 3.0
18:27.20MarkinusCotulla: hi
18:27.23ali1234we have similar things: https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/linwizard/wiki/LCDDetect
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18:27.33Cotullaoh lcd detect talk :P
18:27.39ali1234but with different bits, IDs, and screens
18:28.01Cotullaali1234 and why u need all this shit?
18:28.15ali1234to make LCD work...
18:28.17Cotullaforgot about it... bootloader already detect panel and other parameters
18:28.28Cotullau just need to read values and init panels
18:28.47ali1234and when turn the panel off to save power?
18:28.57Cotullahow u want...
18:29.05Cotulladifferent functions for different panels
18:29.19ali1234if we don't know what panel we have, how do we know how to turn it back on?
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18:29.34Cotullau need read panel type from memory
18:29.47Cotullait should be stored there?
18:29.49Cotullawhich dev?
18:29.59ali1234the ones listed on that wiki page^
18:30.02manusfreedomI remove the full ram zImage
18:30.07manusfreedomand don't use it
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18:30.24ali1234excalibur, prophet, artemis, vox, gene, wizard, herald
18:30.39Cotullaoh 850
18:31.16Cotullahm
18:31.40Cotullait should be in drv globals
18:31.56ali1234what is drv globals??
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18:32.49Cotullaglobal variables
18:33.10ali1234from SPL?
18:33.19Cotullau have spl?
18:33.23ali1234yes
18:33.24CotullaI can look and say to y
18:33.26Cotulla*u
18:33.52ali1234everything i found on that page so far was from disassembling spl
18:34.22ali1234i just grabbed random SPLs from xda forums
18:34.31Cotullagive me one
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18:34.51ali1234http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/htc/wizard/spl/
18:36.02Cotullashit it's doubled
18:38.03Cotulla<PROTECTED>
18:38.03Cotulla<PROTECTED>
18:38.03Cotulla<PROTECTED>
18:38.05Cotullau saw this?
18:38.13Cotullait's where panel type stored
18:38.17Cotulla0x9002713C\
18:38.57ali1234yeah, but it's different on every SPL
18:39.16Cotullaso it's  PA = 0x2002713C
18:39.30Cotullahm wait
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18:39.50ali1234is that even going to survive after WM has booted and we run haret?
18:40.03CotullaI think WM use this value
18:40.03Cotullaalso
18:40.10Cotullau looked to WM?
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18:40.43ali1234we have capability to boot both with and without WM so reading it from there is not acceptable
18:40.55Cotullaacceptable
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18:41.06Cotullait should be saved
18:41.16Cotullashow ddi.dll for me
18:41.22Cotullathere should be also lcd detection
18:42.03ali1234that will take a minute
18:42.05Cotullait's how I done it on leo
18:42.15Cotullabootloader init screen and show splash
18:42.25Cotullaso it already detected screen
18:42.31Cotullano reason for me detect it again
18:43.46Cotullau say different on every SPL? which ones?
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18:45.31ali1234every device has a different spl
18:45.45ali1234some devices have multiple versions of spl
18:46.05CotullaI think it's same for different versions of SPL
18:46.09Cotullaand can be different for devices
18:46.25ali1234i don't know how to get ddi.dll out of the phone
18:46.53Cotullahm
18:46.55ali1234anyway, since it is per device, i might as well just reverse engineer the real hardware method
18:47.21Cotullaheh don't lost time
18:47.42Cotullatry to read 0x2002713C
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18:53.16Cotulla[acl] here?
18:53.20Rafyvittoddi.dll should be in OEM folder on your rom dump, or OEM Drivers folder
18:53.49ali1234all i have is 80040000-OS_0.nb... reading how to unpack now
18:54.12Rafyvittowhat device is it?
18:54.15Rafyvittowizard?
18:54.16ali1234wizard
18:54.19Rafyvittook
18:55.55Rafyvittoyou need NBH tool to dump it
18:56.21Rafyvittoand...fuck its been so long since i've cook WM roms ><, im forgeting things
18:56.49ali1234all this shit is for windows
18:57.16Rafyvittothe dumping tools and stuff? yes
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19:02.48Rafyvittoali
19:02.51Rafyvittodownload this kitchen
19:02.54Rafyvittohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501941
19:03.01Rafyvittoit has everything dumped alredy
19:03.11Rafyvittoonce downloaded head over to the OEM folder
19:03.16ali1234i'm already half way through figuring out imgfs utils
19:03.18Rafyvittoand search for the ddi.dll
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19:03.44Rafyvittono need to, unless your thinking of cooking roms for the wizard =]
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19:04.15ali1234ok done it
19:04.32xUmaRixphh r we using htc_headset.c and htc_35mm_jack.c in xdandroid kernel ?
19:04.56phhxUmaRix: htc_headset.c but not htc_25mm_jack.c
19:05.45xUmaRix35mm jack wont work during call currently
19:06.05xUmaRixi just read some stuff at code aurora
19:06.13ali1234Cotulla: http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/htc/ddi.dll
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19:07.20Cotullaok
19:07.47Cotulla.text:10004890 sub_10004890                            ; CODE XREF: sub_100035BC+68p
19:07.47Cotulla.text:10004890                                         ; sub_10004ED4+A8p ...
19:07.47Cotulla.text:10004890                 LDR     R3, =0xB002713C
19:07.47Cotulla.text:10004894                 LDRH    R0, [R3]
19:07.47Cotulla.text:10004898                 BX      LR
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19:08.08CotullaI think it is
19:08.19ali1234well it's same address...
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19:08.44Cotullait should be PA=0x2002713C
19:08.54Cotullatry to read from it via haret or itsme tools
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19:13.24Joe__Hello
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19:24.18xUmaRixphh i just tested libhtcgeneric-ril.so from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7535661&postcount=663 and now my carrier is displayed on my blac100 lockscreen
19:24.59phhthat's going to help a lot.
19:25.11xUmaRixhave u look at it
19:25.28xUmaRixim still looking at androidonhtc git now
19:25.31phhwhat the hell do you want me to do with yet another binary ril ?
19:25.35phhI've already dozens
19:26.30xUmaRixwell i got full bar on this ril
19:27.33ShadowFoxBiHlol your point?
19:28.03ShadowFoxBiHdoes data work perfectly?
19:28.06xUmaRixb4 this it always fallback to UMTS
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19:30.34ElBartoMEis there a sourcecode for that?
19:30.59ShadowFoxBiHso ElBartoMe any luck with getting a working ril ?
19:31.13ElBartoMEit does not work on cm6
19:31.23ElBartoMEit does work on xdandroid froyo
19:31.34ElBartoMEbut the reception is bad
19:31.42ElBartoMEand the modem crashes very often
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19:34.59ali1234Cotulla: thanks, this is helpful... looks to me like SPL only reads from that address on wizard, is that right? it only appears one time in the whole file
19:36.36Cotullano SPL fill value there
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19:37.38Tripknotixanyone here use hd2 android?
19:37.44Cotullanone
19:38.19Cotullahere devs... they are develop, not use
19:38.22Tripknotixheya cotulla how are u
19:38.27Tripknotixi didnt realise all of u hang out here
19:38.31Tripknotixim an #xda-devs chan person
19:38.36Cotullaoh nice :)
19:38.45Tripknotixi didnt realise this was so popular
19:38.53Cotulla"this" == ?
19:39.01Tripknotixsince i dont run with the linux crowd, but now that android is essential to my flash game development ;)
19:39.05Tripknotixthis channel
19:39.13Tripknotixwww.realdefinition.net/fighting
19:39.14Cotullahehe
19:39.26Tripknotixalso i have to fix controls but www.realdefinition.net/mode4
19:39.31Tripknotixi am working on those controls
19:39.34Tripknotixfor acceleromter
19:39.41Cotullafor android?
19:39.42Tripknotixlooks perfecton hd2
19:39.44Tripknotixyes
19:39.45Tripknotixandroid 2.2
19:39.47Cotullahm...
19:39.58Tripknotixim entering it in the mochiads contest, and also the kongregate contest
19:40.00Cotullaand is it working there in browser?
19:40.03Tripknotixflash for android 2.2 contests
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19:40.05Tripknotixofcourse
19:40.07Tripknotixowrks both
19:40.09Tripknotixon android 1ghz
19:40.11Tripknotixand pc 1ghz
19:40.17Cotulla"D
19:40.18Cotulla:D
19:40.19Tripknotixtry it cotulla ;)
19:40.23Cotullalater
19:40.23Tripknotixthey are tech demo
19:40.55Tripknotixim using 16gb memory card tho =(
19:40.57Tripknotixits class 2
19:40.59Tripknotixso slow to load
19:41.11Cotullayes sd is rather slow
19:41.26ali1234oh nice, a tunnel racer :)
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19:44.45NeoFluxCotulla: you there?
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19:45.35Cotullano
19:45.51NeoFluxCotulla: did you try that key i gave you the other day? :)
19:46.08Cotullano yet
19:46.14NeoFluxAhh oki :)
19:46.22NeoFluxSorry, hoping it'll work :P
19:46.32Cotullalazy
19:46.34NeoFluxlol
19:46.37Cotullai am
19:46.38NeoFluxYou tried Windows 7?
19:46.49NeoFluxAs in, have you used Windows 7 before?
19:47.13Cotullain vmware
19:47.28Cotullaosk.exe fffuuuuuuuuuuuuu
19:47.33NeoFluxShame, Much getter not in a vm :P
19:47.40NeoFluxbetter*
19:48.07NeoFluxAlso Cotulla, i advise not using the key when using Windows 7 within a VM
19:48.21Cotullayes
19:48.36NeoFluxOtherwise MS might lock the key to the VM and not the computer :/
19:48.50NeoFluxBut Cotulla You should be able to use the key on upto 10 computers
19:49.02NeoFluxBut i advise against it just incase :)
19:49.43NeoFluxCotulla: What OS do you use then?
19:50.07CotullaXP
19:50.19Cotullaconnected keyboard back...
19:50.39Cotullamigration to new system may take time
19:50.41Cotullafor me
19:50.47NeoFluxXP is a good OS :)
19:51.03NeoFluxBut... Windows 7 in my opinion is better, but it might be a slight learning curve
19:51.05Cotulla2 years already
19:51.28[acl]i think windows 7 is dog shit
19:51.30Cotullaeven I wanted to install Windows 7  a 5 months ago
19:51.30[acl]:-\
19:51.31NeoFluxCotulla: is that how long your XP install is?
19:51.42Cotullayes current XP is 2 year old... %)
19:51.46Cotullahey acl?
19:51.55[acl]sup Cotulla
19:51.56CotullaI looked something for u more
19:51.57NeoFluxCotulla: Suppose you could install Windows 7 as a dual boot and try it properly to see if you like it or not :)
19:52.18[acl]NeoFlux: why would u want people to use win 7?
19:52.27Cotulla[acl], there call display_SignalGRP from ddi.dll
19:52.37Cotullatry to call it at init like ddi do
19:52.38NeoFlux[acl]: because it isn't a bad OS?
19:52.52CotullaNeoFlux, problem that I have a loooot of stuffs
19:52.58[acl]Cotulla: Do you know what that call does ? can we just replicat wha it does on init ?
19:52.59Cotullait's not easy to migrate
19:53.16Cotulla[acl] seems it's write to MDP register
19:53.21Cotullatry to do same...
19:53.32NeoFluxCotulla: I understand that, that's why I suggest dual booting, at least then you can mirgrate and not trash your XP install if you decide to go back
19:53.38[acl]NeoFlux: i dunno. i have mixed feelings on it since its just too bloated. XP to the death for me
19:53.47Cotullahm I also want HW upgrade...
19:54.02fakkerstill runs with e6600 ;x
19:54.05[acl]Cotulla: hmm. i'll need to see the asm so to see what registers to mod. So far all the changes i made from dzos code didnt help but didnt hurt either
19:54.13[acl]Cotulla: they will help for the nand boot tho
19:54.16fakkerand a xeon ml360
19:54.32Cotullau have mdp reg write function somewhere?
19:54.42NeoFluxfakker: e6600 still a good processor, I have two of those sitting around, I have a q6600 now :D
19:54.50[acl]Cotulla: yeah in mdp code ..
19:55.01fakkerNeoFlux, i have no need for a workstation anymore... i have about 10 laptops
19:55.03fakker:D
19:55.06[acl]Cotulla: not in init.. So i need to see what what to write
19:55.09NeoFlux[acl]: suppose you are right to some agree, but OS's are generally more bloated from one release to the next, i.e. Windows 2000 > XP
19:55.18NeoFluxfakker: loooooooool
19:55.27fakkernot over estimate either
19:56.29[acl]NeoFlux: True, but in general i think 7 is inefficient. Even at work i switched fully to ubuntu instead of 7. Maybe its just not my cup of tea
19:56.35Cotulla0xaa2101ac
19:56.51fakkeri like 7 - just for general fuck about
19:56.56fakkerweb browsing, facebook stalking
19:57.00fakker;D
19:57.06NeoFluxfakker: other chatroom :)
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19:57.27Cotullaacl
19:57.34Cotullatry to read data from PA 0xaa2101ac
19:57.39Cotullaand then write 1 to it
19:58.30[acl]Cotulla: OR 1 to it you mean ? or just set it to 1
19:58.44Cotullaset to 1
19:59.12[acl]Cotulla: im finally going back home today so ill get to try it tonight.
20:00.38Cotullaok
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20:02.59Cotullay f
20:03.03fakker:)
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20:30.51theredundantsup guys
20:33.16Sharky^gerhey, anyone here who is trying mattc 1.5?
20:34.53Crashmandownloading actually...but thats something for chat
20:35.41Sharky^gerokay i will move
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21:07.08antoszkaWhat's “noPC” in “zImage.384MB.noPC”? (speaking about kernels here: http://htcleo.noobhands.net/manusfreedom/)
21:07.25phhno power collapse ?
21:07.29manusfreedomyes
21:07.51antoszkaIf you excuse my ignorance, what's power collapse :)?
21:10.40phhpowering off the cpu during sleep
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21:11.13antoszkaWhich of the two do you suggest for everyday use? (if any)
21:12.16Seggywell if you want the best battery life, you probably want it to power off the cpu during sleep
21:13.09huggy_72yes and never return back......
21:13.12antoszkaCertainly – but I presume there are some downsides to it if there's a noPC version.
21:13.21antoszkaWhich is why I'm asking.
21:13.37huggy_72older
21:13.48phhantoszka: sleep of death or something like that
21:14.02antoszkaUhm.
21:14.29huggy_72whit nopc i have good battery life...
21:14.49antoszkaAnd „sleeps of death”?
21:14.57huggy_72no at all
21:15.42phhhuggy_72: good meaning ?
21:16.17huggy_72can make dmesg|grep battery...
21:16.23huggy_72can't sry
21:16.33huggy_72i have strange out..
21:17.18huggy_72but on sleep was from 60 > 54% on 4 hours
21:17.29antoszkaA bit off topic – what terminal emulator would suggest for working over SSH on remote machines? I've installed Connect Bot, but can't figure out how to send control chars, so it's a bit useless.
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21:21.41antoszkaI'm reading the latest dev-releases of connect bot have that issue fixed, will give those a go.
21:26.00LordDeathdoes the rooting of android phones make use of any security vulnerabilities?
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21:26.31LordDeathlike this iphone jailbreak which uses a hole in the pdf viewer
21:26.39phhdepends on which phones
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21:26.53huggy_72phh: you know what mean this output please?
21:26.55huggy_72# dmesg|grep battery
21:26.56huggy_72dmesg|grep battery
21:26.58huggy_72<4>[    2.796930] $$$ htcleo_battery_probe $$$
21:27.14phhjust that the htcleo_battery_probe function has been called
21:27.14zfxpwell break it down
21:27.22zfxphtcleo = hd2
21:27.32zfxpbattery probing is basicly getting how much battery you have
21:27.33zfxplol
21:27.39phhnot really.
21:27.46phhit's just loading the driver
21:27.58zfxpdmesg displays the system log
21:28.03zfxpwhich means it loaded the driver for battery
21:28.10phhor tried to at least
21:28.13huggy_72so why i have this output whit this kernel?
21:28.17phhwhy not ?
21:28.26phhit just means the battery driver is loaded /o\
21:28.37huggy_72384.noPC from manusfreedom
21:28.56huggy_72ussualy i have the full info on battery
21:31.07ToAsTcfhdamn here goes nothing
21:31.43phhToAsTcfh: has anyone done a dualboot system for android ?
21:31.56[acl]dual boot you say ?
21:32.00phhi'm doing one right now, but sounds complicated.
21:32.02phh[acl]: yeah
21:32.15phhlike full featured Eclair vs Froyo lacking camera
21:32.24phhand possibly SHR one day :p
21:32.36ToAsTcfhphh: but if i had to fix board-rfkill to get this far do u think it would still be something in my main board? and no no one has done that yet
21:32.56phhToAsTcfh: get real logs -_-'
21:33.11ToAsTcfhbah i need to get into console
21:33.19ToAsTcfhim almostr there
21:33.19phhpoor you
21:33.27phhso no dualboot ?
21:33.33ToAsTcfhfb console doesnt work either
21:33.42ToAsTcfhno dual boot
21:33.48ToAsTcfhthat i know of
21:33.50phhk
21:33.55phhI have to do everything :p
21:33.59ToAsTcfhpeople wanna do it
21:34.11phhit's boring to do
21:34.17ToAsTcfhlike from recovery have the option
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21:34.32phhwhat ?
21:34.42ToAsTcfhud have to boot one from the card i guess
21:34.44phhwhy recovery oO
21:34.46phhyes of course
21:35.17ToAsTcfhwell i guess u could add some sort of grub of sorts
21:35.27phhtoo complicated :p
21:35.38ToAsTcfhthen how u plan on doing it
21:35.44phhToAsTcfh: I've one master boot.img that boots on the nand
21:35.44ToAsTcfhthe choice part
21:35.50phh*but* if there is a key
21:35.53phhlet's say volume down
21:35.55phh(could be a gui)
21:36.03ToAsTcfhah
21:36.06phhit stops booting, flashes the other ROM's boot.img
21:36.08phhand reboot
21:36.18phhthis other rom's boot.img let's call it a slave boot.img
21:36.25phhwould get its stuff on the sdcard
21:36.29phhand flashes back the "master" boot.img
21:36.50phhand boot normally.
21:36.52phhon the sdcard
21:36.52ToAsTcfhnice idea. i think ur the man for it too
21:37.42phhI first wanted to use kexec
21:37.44phhbut that never worked
21:38.08ToAsTcfhphh: are u able to get fb console working on the liquid
21:38.16phhyes why ?
21:38.22ToAsTcfhi dont need a serial cable for that do i
21:38.24phhI don't use it though
21:38.28phhlol ? no
21:38.32phhit's just on the screen :p
21:38.47ToAsTcfhdid u have to do anything special
21:38.58phhyes, enabling it in make menuconfig :p
21:39.09phh(and it's left disabled actually, people dislike that :p))
21:39.24ToAsTcfhi guess id have to at least make it to pannel to get that though huh
21:39.32ToAsTcfhpanel
21:39.48phhyour panel doesn't work ? uh ?
21:39.52phhah it crashes before
21:39.53phhright
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21:40.03ToAsTcfhyeah befor ramconsole
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21:45.33ToAsTcfhphh: what is fb console under in menuconfig
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21:46.36phhToAsTcfh: devices drivers => graphics support => console display driver support => framebuffer console support + map to the primary device
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22:07.39[acl]nan
22:08.51ToAsTcfhphh, its not there in .34 :/
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22:25.56tmztCotulla: what are you writing to MDP for what is SignalGRP?
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22:32.39ToAsTcfhphh: \o/ i got ramconsole
22:32.52ToAsTcfhhttp://pastebin.com/UkBGXJqK
22:32.54ToAsTcfh:/
22:33.07ToAsTcfhbut its ramconsole none the less :P
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22:37.14manusfreedomhi!!
22:37.23manusfreedomI get a 512MB working!!
22:37.32SamanthaMarquezwell done!
22:38.59antoszkaCongrats.
22:39.07SamanthaMarquezyou deserve a bottle of champagne manusfreedom
22:39.16BigDaDDylicks manusfreedom's ***
22:40.19BigDaDDywould using your 512mb kernel require anything more than replacing the kernel and changing startup.txt? and does it brake anything? :P
22:40.45manusfreedomjust that
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22:40.50ElBartoMEmanusfreedom: what was the problem?
22:41.00manusfreedombut I get some error on log, that I don't like
22:41.10ElBartoMEwhat errors? kgsl?
22:41.12BigDaDDyError 6846: You will not like this error.
22:41.20manusfreedomE/qsd8k.gralloc(  202): cannot flush handle 0x3cff98 (offs=234000 len=1e000)
22:41.25ElBartoMEwell
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22:41.39ElBartoMEthat error slows down the system extremely
22:41.49antoszkaBigDaDDy: lol
22:42.18manusfreedomand I get some graphic corrupt on android but only in interface not in 3d
22:42.25BigDaDDy:p
22:42.32manusfreedomElBartoME: same perf on neocore
22:42.57ElBartoMEhm, when i get the error the whole transitions gets slow
22:42.59ElBartoMEokay
22:43.31manusfreedomall is smooth here
22:43.41ElBartoMEgood
22:43.41manusfreedomvery smooth...
22:44.05ElBartoMEjust need to get rid of that graphic errors
22:44.12manusfreedomI port the memory allocation of codeaurora
22:44.38manusfreedomI think it's a mdp memory problem with fb
22:44.44manusfreedombut not sure
22:44.47ElBartoMEhm
22:45.10manusfreedomall load are quick...
22:45.41ElBartoMEi also had that graphic errors when using cotulla's full ram arragement
22:46.08ElBartoMEsome "windows" were really distorted
22:46.20manusfreedomI think I will try to port all change from codeaurora
22:46.28ElBartoMEtry that
22:46.33ElBartoMEmaybe it works
22:46.55manusfreedomI just got line on some icone but it clean quick
22:47.49ElBartoMEi remember this error from the "old days" where hw3d wasn't supported
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22:48.05manusfreedomgallery is very smooth
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22:49.01ElBartoMEcamera working?
22:49.15stuartdbhey manuisfreedom can you put the full ram on your sever for testing plz :)
22:49.51manusfreedomElBartoME: yes
22:49.55ElBartoMEokay
22:50.01ElBartoMEwell, looks goot then.
22:50.20tmztcan you pastebin anything with kgsl errors?
22:50.25BigDaDDyhow bad is the corruption?
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22:50.55manusfreedomBigDaDDy: not much
22:52.09manusfreedom3d drwer is so smooth!!!
22:52.25ElBartoMExD
22:52.34ElBartoMEwell, you are able to pastebin the log?
22:52.45stuartdbcan you share plz m8 so i can test please
22:52.48manusfreedomI reboot and post the zImage
22:52.49tmztToAsTcfh: you change gpio without disabling a gpio irq?
22:52.58manusfreedomI need to go sleep
22:53.08BigDaDDyif you share the zimage, also share startup.txt or whatever :P
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22:53.12manusfreedomyes
22:53.25BigDaDDygonna test it as well
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22:53.34BigDaDDydon't mind about some corruption, gimme the memory
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22:53.45stuartdbgood job manusfreedom :)
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22:54.34ElBartoMEmanusfreedom: make a diff when you have time. you don't have to do it today. ;-)
22:54.45manusfreedombut for the moment you only see 282MB of free ram
22:54.57manusfreedomI think I can get 350MB
22:55.16manusfreedomthe used part is reserved for device
22:55.40manusfreedomElBartoME: tomorrow if I have time
22:55.53ElBartoMEtake your time. does not hurry
22:55.57BigDaDDywell, that does it for me as a WWE HD2 user... good luck TMOUSers :)
22:56.37BigDaDDyEU i meant :P
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22:57.53manusfreedomhttp://htcleo.noobhands.net/manusfreedom/
22:58.13BigDaDDyty :P
22:58.14manusfreedomoh... I get an auto reboot...
22:58.31ElBartoMEnot gootd :-/
22:58.40manusfreedombut on boot not after
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22:59.21blackrailsame startup.txt settings?
22:59.35BigDaDDyblackrail: file is there also for settings
22:59.46manusfreedomsee the default.FULLRAM.txt
23:00.02Tungmeister_is zImage.384MB.noPC  stable? i've been away for afew days, abit behind lol
23:00.10blackrailhaha. i should have hit f5, my bad
23:00.19ToAsTcfhtmzt' idk whats up. i guess ill start at the top and work my way down
23:00.34manusfreedomnow whitscreen...
23:00.49ElBartoMEhm
23:00.53manusfreedomI am sure we have a problem with memory not clear before we boot kernel
23:00.55ToAsTcfhtmzt, spi seems to be failing bad also
23:01.04tmzthmm
23:01.29ToAsTcfhthats pretty cool though. im not blind anymore
23:01.29manusfreedoman dI get corruption only on fb
23:01.35manusfreedomthe kernel continue to boot
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23:02.31ToAsTcfhtmzt, i took ramconsole from late init to device init
23:02.41ToAsTcfhit worked though
23:02.43ToAsTcfh:P\
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23:04.00manusfreedomI will work on the FB, maybe we do something wrong...
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23:05.09FlawlesStylenoPC :(
23:07.07ToAsTcfh_~seen tmzt
23:07.09apttmzt is currently on #webos-internals #htc-linux #meego #openezx #openmoko-cdevel. Has said a total of 195 messages. Is idling for 6m 5s, last said: 'hmm'.
23:07.16tmztI'm here
23:07.24tmztyou know I don't respond instantly some times
23:07.58ToAsTcfh_i just got dumped on my internet and was making sure i didnt miss anything
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23:09.13tmztok
23:10.09ElBartoMEstrange
23:10.16ElBartoMEi don't get that error
23:10.23ElBartoMEoops
23:10.25ElBartoMEnvm
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23:13.12ElBartoMElooks good. just need to get these glitches fixed
23:15.44manusfreedomElBartoME: more smooth for you?
23:16.40ElBartoMEhw3d -> no change. maybe a little worse. but the menus and homescreen is smoother
23:17.04ElBartoME*are
23:17.56blackrailwill the fullram kernel show more then 384 in system info? i still only have 384
23:18.27ElBartoMEwhere do you see the ram? Oo
23:18.30manusfreedommaybe because I use more for device
23:18.30ElBartoMEi can't find it
23:18.50blackrailandroid system info app, zego's CM6
23:19.04ElBartoMEah okay
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23:42.42David_Why do i get this after taking a picture
23:42.43David_http://yfrog.com/mssdc12723tj
23:42.57David_I pushed the new camera files
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