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02:38.17 | dieselboy | i am using latest darkstone froyo and my hard keys backlight will not turn off in standby |
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02:40.28 | TheWifis | When you go boot into android make sure your lights are off in winmo |
02:40.39 | TheWifis | then run it |
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02:51.57 | dieselboy | ok, i'll try that TheWifis |
02:52.56 | TheWifis | dieselboy, yea np |
02:53.32 | dieselboy | this new build is smoot |
02:53.36 | dieselboy | *smooth |
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02:56.31 | Guaufio | Scrizz: htc-chat-espanol |
02:57.40 | dieselboy | now it seems the hard key lights do not turn on at all :( |
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03:02.52 | TheWifis | heh yea they will get it, its better to be off and save bat |
03:03.07 | Scrizz | guau |
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03:25.09 | dieselboy | anyone else find the speaker volume to be quite low? |
03:26.06 | Dr`Ryder | Yes. It's been reported once before. |
03:28.20 | dieselboy | ahh, ok |
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03:30.06 | darkstone | everyone read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736454 |
03:33.40 | thePACE | this is cause of new android forum |
03:34.10 | thePACE | and wider amount of "builds" all using cotulla image and darkstone/daniel other stuff |
03:34.25 | thePACE | and people now think everything works and come here with complaints |
03:34.53 | darkstone | yes, it seems that people are expecting everything to work flawlessly |
03:35.02 | darkstone | f*cking leeches |
03:35.16 | darkstone | L( |
03:35.17 | darkstone | :( |
03:36.28 | darkstone | it bothers me that no-one is searching or reading the first few posts of any thread |
03:36.31 | darkstone | for their problem |
03:37.15 | darkstone | sheer lazyness |
03:37.15 | darkstone | doesnt matter |
03:37.15 | darkstone | going to bed, bb |
03:38.30 | thePACE | bye |
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03:54.53 | nineX_ | 22:34:59 | darkstone: f*cking leeches |
03:54.55 | nineX_ | tru |
03:55.37 | TheWifis | tru tru |
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05:52.25 | EdVaIl | ~seen fakker |
05:52.31 | apt | fakker is currently on #htc-linux (1h 31m 18s), last said: 'bb'. |
05:52.40 | fakker | morning |
05:52.52 | EdVaIl | fakker: morning - query |
05:55.30 | fakker | ;] |
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06:02.39 | Scrizz | that little fakker |
06:02.48 | Scrizz | he didn't send me my kefir |
06:03.07 | Scrizz | rips kefir from fakker's arm! |
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06:10.01 | chris_____ | i just installed on my touch pro2 and its just restats |
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06:10.40 | chris_____ | can anybody help |
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06:11.04 | tmzt_ | guess not |
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06:28.05 | jonpry | [acl], thnx, lol that didn't get us very far |
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09:27.20 | manusfreedom | Good news: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2010/Librarian-of-Congress-1201-Statement.html |
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09:46.48 | manusfreedom | ² |
09:46.54 | manusfreedom | oups... |
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10:28.35 | DomZ | humm does it will be the GPS day today ? :) |
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11:39.31 | yogib__ | . |
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12:05.23 | kevev | good morning :o) |
12:05.36 | Cotulla | ~seen LeTama |
12:05.53 | apt | letama is currently on #htc-linux (7h 49m 58s), last said: 'gauner1986: yes, quite easy to follow when you have a real dll'. |
12:05.53 | iDavid | Its not morning kevev -_-' |
12:05.53 | Cotulla | ~apt die |
12:05.59 | apt | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
12:06.06 | Cotulla | ~apt nice |
12:06.07 | apt | nice is probably prime example of SuperJuan, or a good term for GNOME a derogatory term meaning bland, boring, feeble, or just crap. Example: That's a nice haircut. a city in france, or a program that will run a program with a modified scheduling priority (from -20 to 19, where 19 is the lowest). |
12:06.39 | Cotulla | news? |
12:06.55 | iDavid | Cotulla - you're the one with the news :P |
12:07.05 | Cotulla | ok so no new I gotta go |
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12:07.14 | kevev | lol |
12:07.16 | iDavid | :/ |
12:07.23 | iDavid | He's pissed off |
12:07.25 | iDavid | Lol |
12:07.29 | kevev | ha |
12:08.36 | iDavid | Damn! i'm just waiting for the GPS and i move to android for ever :D |
12:08.58 | phh | how long has he been working on it ? |
12:09.00 | phh | two days ? |
12:09.09 | iDavid | 3 i guess |
12:09.14 | phh | that must be incredibly complicated |
12:09.26 | iDavid | It doesnt seem to be cool stuff to code |
12:09.28 | iDavid | i guess |
12:09.46 | iDavid | Since it connect tough the sattelites it means it gotta be huge |
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12:10.32 | kevev | wow |
12:10.40 | kevev | no wonder he's pissed |
12:10.48 | phh | lol, don't worry all maths are done in A9/DSP |
12:10.52 | phh | we just get the results |
12:11.32 | iDavid | Seems like 16m colours wont work... |
12:12.48 | ala380 | any important news/progress/information? |
12:13.13 | iDavid | ala380 - twitter is the best place to check |
12:13.33 | iDavid | cuz devs put the news before they release |
12:13.47 | ala380 | no i mean with the actual development, not releases. |
12:14.26 | ala380 | i don't care about releases. want to know who's working on what now |
12:14.57 | iDavid | I only know that GPS is being worked on |
12:15.03 | ShadowFoxBiH | looks like dan found a way to fix the 3G packet loss issue |
12:15.22 | iDavid | Good job dany |
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12:15.42 | ShadowFoxBiH | @dan13l I will push data patch to git so it can also be used in android. 100% packet loss and MTU hack free. |
12:15.43 | ShadowFoxBiH | about 22 hours ago via web |
12:15.43 | ShadowFoxBiH | @dan1j3l I will push the data patch later so you can also benefit from the smooth 3G in android. You need to install an extra program though |
12:15.46 | ShadowFoxBiH | off twitter |
12:15.58 | kevev | sweet |
12:16.57 | ShadowFoxBiH | would love to see Hspa 7.2 speeds on my hd2 again |
12:18.12 | ala380 | that sounds like good news about data :) |
12:18.26 | ala380 | gps is a pain in the a** |
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12:33.21 | fakker | hey ala380 |
12:33.24 | fakker | you gonna make me fail again? ;[ |
12:33.39 | ala380 | probably :) |
12:33.45 | fakker | im not gonna bother then :P |
12:33.54 | ala380 | lol |
12:34.31 | fakker | where in US are you? |
12:35.09 | iDavid | Are you wearing glasses ? |
12:35.13 | iDavid | You! |
12:35.41 | fakker | no, i wear contact lenses |
12:35.47 | iDavid | Not you |
12:35.50 | iDavid | But you! |
12:35.56 | ShadowFoxBiH | lol what does glasses have to do with anything? |
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12:35.59 | fakker | in russia glasses wear you |
12:36.12 | ShadowFoxBiH | in russia the government owns your glasses and |
12:36.13 | ala380 | Philadelphia fakker |
12:36.14 | iDavid | so soviet russia cars drives you |
12:36.19 | fakker | ala380, i saw in chat |
12:36.20 | iDavid | in* |
12:36.23 | ShadowFoxBiH | lol so do the women as well |
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12:37.01 | iDavid | in soviet russia hd2 codes you |
12:37.13 | ala380 | lol |
12:37.24 | ShadowFoxBiH | hahah |
12:37.29 | ShadowFoxBiH | that was good |
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12:38.46 | ShadowFoxBiH | lol wtf i love florida the weather stations say no rain but there are rain clouds right outside |
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12:39.04 | iDavid | They're liersi |
12:39.22 | ShadowFoxBiH | would be better off listening to fortune tellers these days |
12:40.08 | iDavid | Floridians are liars, big a**, nerds, wearing big and huge glasses, dumbasses, idiot and bullshiters :) |
12:40.58 | iDavid | *low voice* looks like ShadowFoxBiH is prepairing to rage! |
12:41.07 | manusfreedom | ~seen NetRipper |
12:41.48 | apt | netripper is currently on #htc-linux (8h 25m 53s), last said: 'but yea no raid0'. |
12:41.49 | ShadowFoxBiH | lol i dont really care idavid not a born floridian |
12:41.49 | ShadowFoxBiH | im european |
12:41.49 | iDavid | Just joking :P |
12:41.58 | iDavid | ~lag |
12:42.08 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, lag is very bad here :( |
12:42.14 | ShadowFoxBiH | lol |
12:42.30 | ShadowFoxBiH | well im out for the day so you guys have fun |
12:42.41 | iDavid | Indeed |
12:42.51 | iDavid | *low* with ourselves |
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12:51.14 | shu8i | ~seen mattc |
12:51.15 | apt | shu8i: i haven't seen 'mattc' |
12:51.41 | adioph | just test 1280 x 720 P video and wow it really can play unlike in winmo |
12:52.10 | kevev | nice |
12:53.39 | theredundant | what format? |
12:53.41 | theredundant | mkv? |
12:55.43 | adioph | mp4 |
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12:58.34 | tb_killa | hello hello |
12:59.16 | tb_killa | Have one simple Question: Has one of the Developers Informations about Qualcomm PM7540 ?? |
12:59.35 | phh | . |
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13:00.35 | tb_killa | I have Datasheed of the PM7540 !! |
13:01.08 | phh | gimme. |
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13:02.09 | tb_killa | In the Datasheet there are many Informations (Technically) of these Power Managment Chip |
13:02.36 | kevev | yes please |
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13:03.09 | tb_killa | I uploaded it and send Link |
13:03.35 | kevev | k |
13:03.37 | manusfreedom | phh: did you know we can't use more than 0xF9010000 in virtual memory? |
13:03.47 | phh | manusfreedom: ??? |
13:04.04 | manusfreedom | I search to resolve the problem with MSM_RAM_CONSOLE_BASE & MSM_MDP_BASE |
13:04.17 | manusfreedom | they have the same value in actual leo git |
13:04.27 | phh | are they used and mapped ? |
13:04.30 | manusfreedom | did you know why* |
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13:05.23 | manusfreedom | yes but for the moment I think MSM_MDP_BASE is not used, but NEtRipper say we need it. |
13:05.30 | tb_killa | here the Link of the Datasheet: http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/17541572/file.html |
13:06.22 | tb_killa | hope these could help for programming ? |
13:06.37 | phh | could be |
13:06.43 | phh | I'll have to jump on captnoord next time I see him |
13:06.44 | tb_killa | do you download it ? |
13:06.48 | phh | yes |
13:06.51 | manusfreedom | phh; you are working on pm for leo? |
13:06.57 | phh | manusfreedom: no |
13:06.59 | phh | I've no leo. |
13:07.03 | manusfreedom | ok |
13:07.20 | tb_killa | but these PowerChip in many devices from HTC |
13:07.35 | phh | all msm7k devices I guess |
13:07.42 | tb_killa | phh: right |
13:07.50 | manusfreedom | from the wiki it's the same on leo, but I don't know if it's accurate |
13:07.54 | phh | well, msm7x0x |
13:08.20 | tb_killa | phh: Do you think downloadlink should printed in wiki ? |
13:08.39 | phh | if it has a long time life yes |
13:09.12 | tb_killa | phh: File Life: 30 days after no activity. |
13:09.17 | phh | ok fine |
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13:09.47 | tb_killa | phh: fine that I could help ... |
13:09.52 | kevev | thanks tb_killa |
13:09.59 | phh | tb_killa: you have others like that one ? :p |
13:10.03 | kevev | cant download from here. someone save a copy for dwvs. |
13:10.06 | kevev | devs |
13:10.18 | tb_killa | phh: sry no ? |
13:10.47 | phh | hum that's only electrical/mechanical specs actually |
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13:11.02 | tb_killa | phh: See it ;-) |
13:11.04 | phh | damned, seemed more a software thing at first look |
13:11.44 | tb_killa | kevev: could uploaded to another mirror |
13:12.00 | tb_killa | kevev: If you couldn´t download from zippy.... |
13:12.43 | kevev | on mytouchslide. cant. |
13:12.46 | luc_ | mirror |
13:12.47 | luc_ | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2Y0F3HNX |
13:12.52 | tb_killa | phh: Hope Cotulla would show his local tree for porting to LEO Tree |
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13:13.00 | kevev | thanks luc_ |
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13:17.51 | huggy_72 | so SD should consume -150 mA |
13:18.01 | tb_killa | phh: Damn If you show into the Datasheet there are sooooo many Informations... |
13:18.49 | tb_killa | phh: But without Software Informations we couldn´t work :-( |
13:19.05 | phh | yeah |
13:19.19 | phh | infos on AMSS would be wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy more useful |
13:19.22 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, ah yes |
13:19.26 | NetRipper | still had to commit that |
13:19.27 | NetRipper | :) |
13:19.45 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: hi |
13:20.52 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: I think we have above of permitted virtual address if we want move MSM_RAM_CONSOLE_BASE |
13:21.15 | manusfreedom | in the git is the same has MSM_MDP_BASE |
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13:23.19 | manusfreedom | and the one you give me on IRC (0xF8F00000), is in the range of MSM_AD5_BASE |
13:23.25 | manusfreedom | & MSM_AD5_SIZE |
13:23.52 | NetRipper | yea i notice indeed |
13:23.54 | manusfreedom | so when I tested it, the kernel freeze on the start |
13:23.56 | NetRipper | i moved it to 0xf91* |
13:24.06 | manusfreedom | and it worked for you? |
13:24.12 | NetRipper | yes |
13:24.13 | manusfreedom | not for me... |
13:24.18 | NetRipper | -#define MSM_RAM_CONSOLE_BASE IOMEM(0xF8010000) |
13:24.19 | NetRipper | +// Originally this does not need to be defined, |
13:24.19 | NetRipper | +// but is required to make early_ramconsole work. |
13:24.19 | NetRipper | +// These values must match the values used in |
13:24.19 | NetRipper | +// the defconfig. |
13:24.20 | manusfreedom | ok I will try again |
13:24.21 | NetRipper | +#define MSM_RAM_CONSOLE_BASE IOMEM(0xF9100000) |
13:24.27 | NetRipper | you also have to change the address in .config |
13:24.34 | NetRipper | if you forget that it wont work either |
13:24.49 | manusfreedom | ha... maybe my mistake.... |
13:25.01 | NetRipper | -CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_EARLY_ADDR=0xF8010000 |
13:25.02 | NetRipper | +CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_EARLY_ADDR=0xF9100000 |
13:25.34 | NetRipper | test that if you would pls, if it works, i just need to push this commit |
13:25.39 | manusfreedom | oky ;) |
13:25.47 | manusfreedom | oky |
13:25.54 | manusfreedom | did you saw my dif? |
13:25.56 | manusfreedom | f |
13:26.38 | LeTama | Hi guys |
13:26.50 | NetRipper | no i haven't |
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13:28.31 | Cotulla | ~seen LeTama |
13:28.56 | apt | letama is currently on #htc-linux (9h 13m 2s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 2m 18s, last said: 'Hi guys'. |
13:28.57 | DomZ | hi Cotulla |
13:28.57 | NetRipper | he's here |
13:28.57 | NetRipper | :) |
13:28.57 | Cotulla | hey\ |
13:28.57 | LeTama | Hello Cotulla |
13:28.57 | Cotulla | LeTama, I fixed get pos gps problem |
13:29.22 | Cotulla | u have android tree |
13:29.25 | Cotulla | to build driver? |
13:30.03 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: compiling |
13:30.09 | NetRipper | k |
13:30.18 | LeTama | Cotulla: yes, I have two trees |
13:30.30 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, where did you put your diff then? |
13:30.41 | LeTama | I need to check if the hardware is ok is what I have |
13:30.53 | Cotulla | ? |
13:30.55 | manusfreedom | why we don't use: define MSM_RAM_CONSOLE_BASE IOMEM(CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_EARLY_ADDR) ? |
13:31.17 | manusfreedom | log: http://pastebin.com/29aiveWV diff: http://pastebin.com/hvq5vtmJ |
13:31.26 | theredundant | whats up fellas |
13:31.43 | manusfreedom | *-CONFIG_ |
13:32.07 | manusfreedom | ... or not.... |
13:32.25 | LeTama | Cotulla: libhardware has wifi |
13:32.40 | Cotulla | actually |
13:32.47 | Cotulla | it's possible to use one from desire |
13:32.53 | Cotulla | there gps in external so |
13:33.12 | DomZ | but ? |
13:33.24 | LeTama | Cotulla: one of the tree I have I have doesn't use bcm4329 |
13:34.14 | Cotulla | ? |
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13:35.28 | LeTama | The other one doesn't also |
13:36.05 | Cotulla | actually libgps.so |
13:36.15 | Cotulla | with gps_get_hardware_interface() from hardware legacy |
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13:38.26 | LeTama | Cotulla, you want to build libgps.so ? proprietary, no ? |
13:41.32 | DomZ | let's build it but don't commit it, after that it is the responsability of the cooker ? |
13:43.15 | LeTama | ok, reading sources, wifi won't probably be a problem, just have to change path to the module |
13:43.38 | LeTama | we could use xdandroid libhardware_legacy, no ? |
13:44.13 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: it's working well ;) |
13:44.16 | DomZ | it seems that libgps.so is already hacked by a lot of prople lol |
13:44.20 | DomZ | people |
13:44.45 | DomZ | example : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606091 |
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13:46.54 | Cotulla | libgsp is good idea |
13:47.31 | Cotulla | LeTama so how the best way to do it |
13:47.32 | Cotulla | >\ |
13:47.33 | Cotulla | > |
13:47.34 | Cotulla | ? |
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13:48.16 | DomZ | build it, add it, and let's android load the module (it should do it itself) and see if it works ? |
13:48.21 | Cotulla | or it can be builded without android tools? |
13:49.09 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, ok good |
13:49.29 | Cotulla | btw who know who is owner of @hd2_android twitter? |
13:51.00 | theredundant | mmm |
13:51.04 | ala380 | no idea i was trying to figure out who owned it yesterday |
13:51.25 | Cotulla | oh ok |
13:51.31 | theredundant | why Cotulla |
13:51.33 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, pushed it |
13:51.52 | Cotulla | theredundant? |
13:52.01 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: ok |
13:52.33 | CIA-100 | htc-linux: linuxtogo htc-msm-2.6.32 * rv2.6.29-38112-g3c155bb /arch/arm/ (4 files in 2 dirs): msm: resolve virtual memory conflict between MDP and ramconsole |
13:52.57 | Cotulla | actually it was a conflict? we never use both values seems |
13:53.08 | NetRipper | doesn't matter, it's still an overlap |
13:53.17 | NetRipper | if we were to use it, there's be a really weird problem you'd not find :p |
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13:53.20 | Cotulla | just delete both :D |
13:53.23 | gauner1986 | hey all |
13:53.28 | NetRipper | no |
13:53.32 | Cotulla | yes I used FFit %#*(%&#&*(%*( |
13:53.38 | Cotulla | :( |
13:53.39 | fakker | hello |
13:54.17 | NetRipper | FFit? |
13:54.22 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: what did you think about my diff, with a kernel compiled from it the user experience is better :) |
13:54.53 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, i haven't seen your diff, and i couldn't find the link eaisly |
13:54.54 | Cotulla | *it |
13:54.57 | NetRipper | easily* |
13:54.59 | Cotulla | in mach init |
13:55.05 | DomZ | http://pastebin.com/29aiveWV |
13:55.06 | Cotulla | and guess why it's not working |
13:55.08 | NetRipper | ah ok |
13:55.10 | DomZ | http://pastebin.com/hvq5vtmJ |
13:55.14 | gauner1986 | 384mb enabled? |
13:55.35 | manusfreedom | gauner1986: yes |
13:55.37 | gauner1986 | did you take care of the problems associated with that? |
13:56.17 | manusfreedom | gauner1986: could you be more precise? |
13:57.58 | gauner1986 | manusfreedom: letama once had a similar patch, which we discarded, because enabling the additional bank of memory made problems with some interfering things.. dunno what exactly |
13:58.03 | gauner1986 | cotulla can tell you more probably |
13:58.57 | manusfreedom | gauner1986: ok LeTama is the guy I search to put in the changelog... for info I added the 384MB as an option in config file |
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13:59.36 | manusfreedom | gauner1986: I'm running my android with 384MB actually... so I will let you know if I get errors... |
13:59.50 | gauner1986 | ok |
14:00.00 | NetRipper | i think the area above 0x18* is fine |
14:00.11 | NetRipper | we had problems at 0x118* |
14:01.24 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, did you completely redo the msm_iomap.h or does the diff just fuck up and make it look like more changes? |
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14:02.23 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: I just ordered it |
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14:08.40 | Cotulla | LeTama? |
14:12.19 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, against what git version has that patch been made? |
14:12.58 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, it doesn't apply msm_iomap.h cleanly (after having undone my last commit) |
14:13.33 | NetRipper | and msm_iomap.h hasn't been changed in the last few commits |
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14:14.31 | NetRipper | or the last month even |
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14:17.43 | Cotulla | NetRipper, u know anything about arm linux syscalls? |
14:18.02 | NetRipper | as in, which are available? not really |
14:18.11 | Cotulla | how they are done? |
14:18.19 | Cotulla | SWI? |
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14:19.25 | NetRipper | interrupt? i dont think so |
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14:20.18 | Cotulla | ok |
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14:20.31 | NetRipper | i think it's ipc |
14:20.36 | Cotulla | will search in sources |
14:20.50 | Cotulla | and in google |
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14:21.33 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: sorry I was away. I used the last GIT with "htcleo: fix turbo mode" |
14:21.56 | NetRipper | Cotulla, http://linux.die.net/man/2/syscalls |
14:22.00 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, it doesn't apply against that |
14:22.12 | manusfreedom | ha... |
14:22.21 | manusfreedom | It complain on what? |
14:22.26 | manusfreedom | *s |
14:22.36 | NetRipper | last chunk of msm_iomap.h |
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14:23.57 | Cotulla | heh nice |
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14:26.41 | LeTama | Cotulla: sorry, was busy at work |
14:28.03 | LeTama | Cotulla, if I understand things correctly, we need a libhardware_legacy to link android to gps. |
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14:28.23 | Cotulla | I suggest to make libgps new |
14:28.52 | LeTama | Do we have the source for libhardware_legacy that supports libgps ? |
14:29.13 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: I launched again the diff and I don't see any problem... :( |
14:29.17 | Cotulla | yes, but actually we don't need it |
14:29.23 | Cotulla | we can get one from desire |
14:29.34 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, maybe the download from pastebin is bad |
14:29.55 | gauner1986 | the one from desire works out of the box? |
14:30.00 | Cotulla | it's why I hate GIT :) |
14:30.32 | Cotulla | no there call to another library |
14:30.38 | LeTama | Cotulla: ok, we could do that, it means that you have reverse libgps.so functions ? |
14:31.02 | Cotulla | there 1 function only |
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14:31.13 | LeTama | huh, ok :) |
14:31.13 | Cotulla | gps_get_hardware_interface() |
14:31.24 | Cotulla | it's like in gps7k |
14:31.27 | Cotulla | but external |
14:31.33 | LeTama | I see |
14:31.52 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, send me your msm_iomap.h instead |
14:31.54 | NetRipper | or pastebin it |
14:32.10 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: oky |
14:33.03 | DomZ | Cotulla: it's time for a diff from your tree :p (BKL, BATTERY, ...) :p |
14:33.27 | NetRipper | compalins that it ends middle of line |
14:33.31 | NetRipper | so i guess it has to do with download |
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14:33.56 | Cotulla | LeTama, is it possible to compile without android stuffs? |
14:34.05 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: http://pastebin.com/wZ1PcmsX |
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14:34.33 | NetRipper | oh it works now |
14:34.34 | manusfreedom | DomZ: completly agree... |
14:34.34 | LeTama | Cotulla: I don't think so, you need external dependencies |
14:34.42 | NetRipper | i just added an empty line at the end of patch file |
14:34.47 | manusfreedom | I come back in 5 minutes |
14:35.05 | Cotulla | so |
14:35.09 | Cotulla | u will able to compile |
14:35.20 | LeTama | yes, I can build it if you want |
14:35.32 | Cotulla | so make libgps |
14:35.44 | Cotulla | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/qcom/gps.git;a=blob;f=loc_api/libloc_api/loc_eng.cpp |
14:35.50 | Cotulla | sample interface |
14:35.58 | Cotulla | but put there code from gps7k |
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14:36.00 | Cotulla | and my changes |
14:36.56 | gauner1986 | where are your changes? |
14:37.23 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, you didnt add the 32MB video memory option to defconfig? and 384mb is off by default? |
14:37.37 | Cotulla | 32 for GPU? wtf |
14:38.02 | theredundant | challenge galaxy s |
14:38.21 | DomZ | Cotulla more the time you don't commit your changes and more hard it will be to commit them :s (sorry to bother you with that) |
14:38.37 | Cotulla | hard? |
14:38.58 | montraydavis | dan1j3l Are you there? |
14:39.31 | theredundant | read dans twittter |
14:39.36 | theredundant | said fix 3g |
14:40.07 | theredundant | oh wait |
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14:40.41 | DomZ | hard : yes because there is already some commits that can conflicts with your changes |
14:41.04 | NetRipper | manusfreedom, and as they're both disabled by default, you can just keep them "not set" :) |
14:41.25 | DomZ | and also you can broke your local sources |
14:41.53 | Cotulla | actually there not much commits |
14:42.19 | LeTama | Cotulla: ok, it should be do-able |
14:42.24 | Cotulla | wait |
14:42.27 | Cotulla | I send u file |
14:42.51 | DomZ | your first big diif was hard to commit by dcordes if I remember well |
14:42.59 | montraydavis | Do you guys think it would be ok to use dan1j3l's Bluetooth data for my build? Or should I get permission from him? O.o |
14:43.30 | theredundant | i personally think its ok, but just mention him |
14:43.37 | theredundant | i dont know about others |
14:44.25 | montraydavis | Yeah, I will definitely credit him, as I did everyone else in the thread (: |
14:44.39 | theredundant | wow now my screen wont turn on |
14:45.09 | Cotulla | LeTama: http://pastebin.com/pnb2eu61 |
14:45.35 | Cotulla | things which are intersting why there no free() in pdsm_get_position()? |
14:45.40 | Cotulla | is it memory leak |
14:46.09 | LeTama | Cotulla: ok, will work on it |
14:46.23 | gauner1986 | memory leak ftw |
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14:47.16 | Cotulla | NetRipper, are there syscalls for so load/so getprocaddress? |
14:49.38 | manusfreedom | NetRipper: yes I know, I did not correct defconfig sorry |
14:49.49 | NetRipper | Cotulla, no idea |
14:50.10 | Cotulla | I wanna to insert system call into libhtc_ril |
14:50.20 | Cotulla | system("me.sh"); |
14:51.32 | NetRipper | Cotulla, i have no clue about hacking binaries this way :) |
14:51.44 | Cotulla | heh |
14:51.54 | Cotulla | btw who have clue? |
14:51.56 | Cotulla | :P |
14:52.28 | NetRipper | let's see if someone stands up |
14:53.36 | NetRipper | tmzt, phh, any of you know this? question a few lines back |
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14:53.46 | phh | NetRipper: no clue either :p |
14:53.47 | Cotulla | are *.so loaded by userspace? |
14:53.53 | LeTama | yes |
14:53.55 | phh | yes |
14:53.57 | Cotulla | shit |
14:54.06 | NetRipper | phh, you knew i was gonna ask you, didn't you ;) |
14:54.14 | phh | NetRipper: right. |
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14:55.10 | NetRipper | Cotulla, http://linux.die.net/man/2/create_module? |
14:55.16 | NetRipper | without the ? |
14:55.19 | NetRipper | in url |
14:55.33 | Cotulla | hm |
14:55.47 | Cotulla | but if mods in userspace there no syscalls for it |
14:56.05 | [acl] | jonpry: y0 |
14:56.18 | NetRipper | and if already loaded, http://linux.die.net/man/2/query_module |
14:56.25 | NetRipper | i dont know if this is regaridng kernel modules, or any modules/libs |
14:58.11 | NetRipper | Cotulla, From libc 4.4.4 on only the library "/lib/ld.so" is loaded, so that this dynamic library can load the remaining libraries needed (again using this call). This is also the state of affairs in libc5. |
14:58.27 | NetRipper | http://linux.die.net/man/2/uselib |
14:59.51 | Cotulla | ok |
14:59.54 | NetRipper | http://linux.die.net/man/3/dlopen "The four functions dlopen(), dlsym(), dlclose(), dlerror() implement the interface to the dynamic linking loader. " |
15:00.27 | Cotulla | but it's not linked with them |
15:00.57 | NetRipper | ok |
15:01.16 | Cotulla | ok doesn't matter now |
15:01.32 | Cotulla | LeTama, how GPS going? |
15:02.09 | LeTama | Cotulla, just at the beginning, still at work and not much time |
15:02.36 | Cotulla | ok |
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15:31.13 | emwe | phh, around? can you tell me why on panel setup, the init code is written via microp instead of client_data->remote_write() (mddi_remote_write()) ? |
15:31.33 | phh | emwe: I guess panel's SPI is connected on microp rather than mddi client |
15:32.15 | emwe | phh: but what if it works? ;) and it's seriously faster on writing the init code via mddi correctly. (on my topa100 here) |
15:32.38 | emwe | phh, if it works, you see no real harm if it is done directly via mddi, no? |
15:32.51 | phh | if it works no |
15:32.56 | phh | but I can't see how both can work /o\ |
15:33.49 | emwe | phh, dunno. and the mddi client for the novatek panel isn't really different from the modded epson mddi client code we have in linux-msm. all I can say is, that it works ,) |
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15:35.20 | emwe | phh, i also assume that i can drop all epson related client_platform_data? according the htc-linux wiki topa and rhod should only have the novatek panel. just the product_ids differ... |
15:35.41 | phh | I really don't know those panel stuff |
15:36.21 | emwe | phh, you still have your rhod? then you could testdrive once committed, eh? ;) (still need to seriously clean up this mess here) |
15:36.30 | phh | ok |
15:36.34 | emwe | thanks. |
15:37.05 | emwe | on a totally unrelated topic: any idea on how to find the OEMAddressTable address *dynamically* in WinCE? |
15:38.11 | dcordes_ | anybody tried htcleo backlit from git ? |
15:38.40 | dcordes_ | gauner1986: ? |
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15:40.19 | gauner1986 | dcordes_: there is a backlight fix in git? ^^ |
15:41.00 | gauner1986 | dcordes_: haven't paid attention to it yet |
15:41.13 | gauner1986 | let's see what it does |
15:41.15 | manusfreedom | dcordes_: my last compil with GIT didn't contain the fix... |
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15:41.42 | BigDaDDy | Guys, I've found 3 different users that have a super-sensitive microphone issue, no matter what rom/radio/build combination... When I'm talking to someone and have even weak background noise in my room, the other side can barely hear me... Its really frustrating because I really wanna use Android but my phone feature is useless and people don't wanna talk to me when I'm on Android.. |
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15:43.15 | BigDaDDy | Currently I'm using Miri v17 / 20.10 / Darkstone's Froyo (exactly Darkstone's combination). I've used Task 29 before... |
15:43.22 | BigDaDDy | 2.10* |
15:44.07 | dcordes_ | manusfreedom: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commit;h=f98fb131436aeb1618b75e49f412887537b6716a |
15:45.53 | montraydavis | BigDADDY <3 |
15:46.04 | BigDaDDy | where is the love? :( |
15:46.28 | BigDaDDy | I have to get back to WM in order to be able to talk to someone on the phone... |
15:47.03 | dcordes_ | BigDaDDy: your usb issue solved ? |
15:47.07 | flagada | your problem its for all ppl |
15:47.19 | dcordes_ | BigDaDDy: likely there is no support for regulating volume in call yet |
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15:47.40 | dcordes_ | BigDaDDy: so you shouldn't expect it to work |
15:47.48 | BigDaDDy | dcordes_: Not yet :p Need to get home for that... I'll update you Thursday... When's Ubuntu v0.2 out? ;) I heard its going to be a blast... |
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15:47.57 | dcordes_ | manusfreedom: gauner1986: I'm not saying it ever worked :) |
15:48.03 | dcordes_ | manusfreedom: gauner1986: never tried |
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15:48.13 | BigDaDDy | dcordes_: So, if implemented, it would probably solve my issue of super-sensitivity? |
15:48.31 | BigDaDDy | flagada: You have the same issue? |
15:48.40 | montraydavis | The love is here brodee haha. What's up? |
15:48.45 | dcordes_ | BigDaDDy: not sure about it being a blast but it sure is better than the 0.1 version. you wanna beta test :D ? |
15:49.01 | montraydavis | Wait.... |
15:49.06 | montraydavis | What would backlight have to do with sensitivity? O.o |
15:49.20 | manusfreedom | dcordes_: ok |
15:49.39 | BigDaDDy | I'd love to, but only on Thursday :) Use my device for thetering... We disabled our ISP account because we're moving aparatment :P |
15:49.55 | BigDaDDy | using* |
15:50.03 | dcordes_ | montraydavis: multi task chatting. you can use the "<nicknamne>: blabla" feature in IRC for that :D |
15:50.13 | BigDaDDy | Didn't try thethering on Android... Does it work? :P |
15:51.14 | dcordes_ | BigDaDDy: it should. we have the driver that supports ap mode and working 3g |
15:51.56 | BigDaDDy | Interesting. I'll check it (means I'm going offline, bb) :] |
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15:52.59 | DaM^ | I am having the exact same issue as BigDaDDy, and also have resorted to rebooting to WinMo to make calls |
15:54.00 | manusfreedom | dcordes_: I launched my android without touch the git code and the backlight doesn't work, but maybe we need to change something... |
15:54.14 | flagada | all have that problem nobody have a clen sound when call |
15:55.01 | huggy_72 | use handset |
15:55.33 | huggy_72 | Headphones* |
15:55.42 | flagada | yep sound for ppl listen me its bad |
15:55.54 | flagada | a i dont test with headphone |
15:56.07 | huggy_72 | not whit headphones is good |
15:56.12 | flagada | ok |
15:56.21 | flagada | thx for that |
15:56.22 | flagada | :p |
15:56.50 | dcordes_ | manusfreedom: ok |
15:57.03 | dcordes_ | manusfreedom: so we have to wait for cotulla source day |
15:57.33 | huggy_72 | i think is not volume in call problem |
15:57.34 | huggy_72 | but noise sensor not used |
15:57.53 | dcordes_ | huggy_72: you cannot change how the radio performs such operations. |
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15:58.01 | dcordes_ | huggy_72: there's no driver for that or so |
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15:58.11 | Mike | hello |
15:58.35 | huggy_72 | how android handle it |
15:58.37 | huggy_72 | via radio? |
15:59.06 | MN | hi dcordes hows the ubuntu build going? |
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16:01.12 | ElBartoME | hi |
16:01.20 | gauner1986 | hi |
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16:15.40 | crack | @dcordes_ do i need leo driver to run adb? |
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16:17.58 | huggy_72 | dcordes: so what make noise reduction sensor communicate whit radio? |
16:18.41 | NRGZ28 | yes you do crack |
16:19.17 | crack | where to get it , look at google can't find it.. |
16:19.18 | crack | can I use htc sync? |
16:20.17 | huggy_72 | crack: what OS? |
16:20.27 | crack | win xp |
16:20.36 | gauner1986 | netripper: which issue does your latest patch resolve? |
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16:20.49 | manusfreedom | gauner1986: the last one in GIT? |
16:21.02 | gauner1986 | yes |
16:21.42 | manusfreedom | gauner1986: currently nothing, it's to avoid future problem with virtual address memory |
16:21.45 | huggy_72 | crack: http://developer.android.com/sdk/win-usb.html |
16:21.49 | gauner1986 | ok |
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16:22.20 | crack | @huggy_72 ok cheerz :D |
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16:22.53 | DomZ | manusfreedom: what about your other fix (GPU, ...) ? |
16:23.13 | manusfreedom | DomZ: it's in NetRipper hand... |
16:23.24 | DomZ | ah ok :) |
16:23.54 | DomZ | NetRipper: what about the other things from manusfreedom ? is it ok ? |
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16:25.48 | Scrizz | hello people |
16:25.50 | Scrizz | :) |
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16:26.44 | Cotulla | ~seen LeTama |
16:27.11 | apt | letama is currently on #htc-linux (12h 11m 17s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 1h 25m 2s, last said: 'Cotulla, just at the beginning, still at work and not much time'. |
16:27.11 | jonpry | [acl]: how do you know the VIC data is correct? did the file actually get written for you. seems like mine reboots before writing the file |
16:27.12 | gauner1986 | re cotulla |
16:27.23 | Cotulla | LeTama, any news? |
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16:27.50 | DomZ | it's 18h27 in France, I think he is still working :) |
16:27.59 | [acl] | jonpry: i saw it on the debugger |
16:28.01 | iDavid | Looks like the compass is working fine for me |
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16:28.12 | [acl] | jonpry: it matched my haret dumps so its correct |
16:28.40 | jonpry | [acl]: did it manage to disable any of the interrupts before rebooting? |
16:29.04 | jonpry | i figure one of them is hooked up to the timer |
16:29.12 | [acl] | jonpry: once the disable interrupt fires phone just reboots |
16:29.13 | Cotulla | maybe compile it by myself |
16:29.20 | Cotulla | gauner1986, u have android tree? |
16:29.36 | jonpry | and watchdog then kills the phone |
16:29.48 | [acl] | jonpry: ahh is that the first one ? |
16:29.54 | Cotulla | WD? |
16:29.59 | jonpry | hmmm |
16:30.00 | Cotulla | wtf |
16:30.08 | LeTama | Cotulla: build ongoing |
16:30.15 | LeTama | Android build system sucks |
16:30.22 | Cotulla | heh |
16:30.33 | Cotulla | it's why I wanna make my hands dirty with it |
16:30.36 | Cotulla | *don't wanna |
16:30.43 | Cotulla | :) |
16:31.01 | iDavid | Do you guys want to smoke some weed with me |
16:31.15 | Cotulla | weed? |
16:31.20 | iDavid | yea homie |
16:31.33 | gauner1986 | cotulla: yes |
16:31.43 | gauner1986 | cotulla: just downloaded :D |
16:31.50 | crack | weed no good for brain? :D |
16:31.51 | Cotulla | LeTama already working seems |
16:32.50 | huggy_72 | but the crack is worse |
16:32.52 | huggy_72 | lol |
16:33.06 | flagada | me i smoke weed every day :p:p:p |
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16:33.20 | iDavid | Weed is cool homies |
16:33.20 | Cotulla | who this ppl? |
16:33.27 | manusfreedom | come back in 2 hours |
16:33.28 | [acl] | jonpry: should switch orders around to see if they all crash the phone. Sorry i shoulda done it but i just didnt have time. |
16:33.29 | crack | well that different anyway lets dev work here :D move to chats |
16:33.30 | iDavid | americans |
16:33.34 | flagada | its great for brain for mine |
16:33.36 | flagada | :p |
16:33.37 | iDavid | :P |
16:33.54 | iDavid | >> chat |
16:33.57 | crack | we need cotulla to stay freshhh |
16:34.03 | jonpry | [acl]: i think 0x33 is A9->A11 |
16:34.34 | HTCdemon | mmm |
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16:34.53 | jonpry | changing the order around would be better than nothing |
16:34.58 | Cotulla | at the end almost all is working so I can have break I guess |
16:35.23 | MN | when is pm going to be implemented? |
16:35.44 | [acl] | jonpry: so 0x33 A9-A11 should be Bit 23 |
16:35.56 | Cotulla | [acl] what are u doing? |
16:35.57 | crack | btw gps working? |
16:36.09 | [acl] | Cotulla: helping jonpry ... |
16:36.19 | gauner1986 | guess he's working on another phone |
16:36.20 | [acl] | Cotulla: what are you doing ? gps? |
16:36.20 | gauner1986 | :) |
16:36.27 | Cotulla | I just read this log |
16:36.33 | Cotulla | gps seems to be done |
16:36.33 | Sharky^ger | ^^ |
16:36.37 | shu8i | ~seen slovenec |
16:36.45 | apt | slovenec <~slovenec@cpe-92-37-78-99.dynamic.amis.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 3d 17h 33m 47s ago, saying: 'take away your honeycomb startmenu'. |
16:36.45 | crack | niceee |
16:36.45 | jonpry | trying to figure out how winmo IntId's map to VIC interrupts |
16:36.48 | gauner1986 | what? |
16:36.49 | gauner1986 | gps done? |
16:36.52 | gauner1986 | :) |
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16:37.03 | gauner1986 | cotulla: need me to compile sth? |
16:37.13 | Cotulla | LeTama seems already started |
16:37.17 | crack | btw cotulla if pm work will it make battery longer? |
16:37.25 | Cotulla | should |
16:37.29 | Cotulla | at least in suspend state |
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16:38.43 | jonpry | [acl], so if we right *VIC = *VIC & ~(1<<23). it should crash the phone too? |
16:38.53 | crack | nice atm using dan build, battery life is great, after PM should be magnificent then ;) |
16:39.06 | [acl] | jonpry: ill try it in haret. easier to crash the phone :-p |
16:39.25 | Cotulla | crash phone... get stone and down to phone. all problems are gone. even A9 and A11. |
16:39.32 | [acl] | jonpry: jonpry: how can i find out the intid for hw3d? i changed the bit before in haret and it didnt crash. so im wondering if i can do it in winmo like you did |
16:39.33 | gauner1986 | :D |
16:40.02 | Cotulla | self reset? |
16:40.41 | jonpry | if you disassemble the dll and look for calls to interruptinitialize. the id will be contents of r0 |
16:41.09 | crack | btw what happen with green blinking notification ? I change several build using same kernel still got green notification blinking |
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16:41.41 | jonpry | or maybe r1 |
16:41.49 | Cotulla | Parad0XUA didn't finish lights |
16:41.50 | jonpry | is r0 constant zero? |
16:42.04 | hunterkll | Cotulla: maybe he did |
16:42.13 | Cotulla | it won't be done seems until he finish it |
16:42.23 | gauner1986 | hm |
16:42.25 | gauner1986 | :( |
16:42.25 | hunterkll | not been here recently |
16:42.34 | gauner1986 | he has too much real life! |
16:42.35 | gauner1986 | :P |
16:42.35 | [acl] | jonpry: i'll have to look into it. |
16:42.38 | Cotulla | he shiould be busy on work |
16:42.50 | hunterkll | Cotulla: is fixed code for panel uploaded to git yet or still hiding:? |
16:43.00 | Cotulla | still nothing |
16:43.02 | NRGZ28 | cotulla... u plan to update the kernel to work with Sharp panels as well ? |
16:43.10 | NRGZ28 | lol hunterkll |
16:43.14 | Cotulla | not now |
16:43.35 | hunterkll | :( |
16:43.35 | NRGZ28 | :/ |
16:43.39 | gauner1986 | :D |
16:43.39 | NRGZ28 | lols |
16:43.40 | Cotulla | I am moving memory and now nothing working |
16:43.43 | hunterkll | my device is basically brick :'( |
16:43.46 | gauner1986 | lol cotulla |
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16:44.07 | iDavid | hunterkll ?? |
16:44.24 | Cotulla | if it will be bricked |
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16:44.30 | Cotulla | I will be happy I guess :D |
16:44.33 | hunterkll | iDavid: sleep of death on the only kernel that could give good battery life :P |
16:44.37 | hunterkll | :'( |
16:44.47 | hunterkll | I want sources not binary |
16:44.56 | gauner1986 | cotulla: because of a new debricking challenge? :P |
16:45.16 | NRGZ28 | i bet dag can debrick HD2s with his new jtag |
16:45.17 | Cotulla | no because I got mini and will do something with it |
16:45.17 | NRGZ28 | lol.. |
16:45.33 | hunterkll | >< |
16:45.37 | iDavid | You got what ? |
16:45.45 | Cotulla | mini |
16:45.45 | hunterkll | cotulla secretly has docs and bsu :( |
16:45.57 | iDavid | You've been working on a mini all the time :O ? |
16:46.02 | Cotulla | hunterkll, u know it's not finished |
16:46.10 | Cotulla | when I finish up to stable point |
16:46.20 | Cotulla | when put tree to tar.gz |
16:46.24 | Cotulla | and upload it again |
16:46.26 | hunterkll | lol |
16:46.32 | gauner1986 | that's nice |
16:46.46 | hunterkll | I thought you had sharp panel working under old memory map |
16:47.09 | Cotulla | no I have auo |
16:47.12 | hunterkll | oh |
16:47.14 | [acl] | jonpry: So lets say you find the vic mappings. You are gonna try to enable them manually ? |
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16:47.54 | jonpry | i'm just checking the defines |
16:47.56 | hunterkll | so you fixed sharp after messing with everythng, okay :) |
16:48.02 | Cotulla | yes |
16:48.07 | jonpry | most likely impossible that they are wrong |
16:48.30 | jonpry | [acl]. the other program didn't really seem to work either |
16:48.31 | gauner1986 | auo ftw! |
16:48.40 | Cotulla | aou? |
16:48.45 | gauner1986 | never heard auo |
16:48.47 | [acl] | jonpry: the other app dumped 0s.. i dunno what you were looking for |
16:48.47 | gauner1986 | but hey |
16:48.47 | gauner1986 | :D |
16:49.03 | jonpry | something besides zero's :-) |
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16:49.23 | [acl] | jonpry: so it worked just not like expected :-p |
16:49.31 | jonpry | well yes |
16:49.44 | hunterkll | Cotulla: attempting to expand available ram and device drivers crying because addresses are shifting? |
16:49.45 | Cotulla | also it should support old radios, there only 451mb for android |
16:50.00 | Cotulla | with new radios 515 mb for android |
16:50.02 | crack | so what is still missing for leo? is it only nand and pm? |
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16:50.23 | jonpry | i think the data i passed isn't complete. seems to be a mess of structures. not sure how big each one is |
16:50.25 | gauner1986 | cotulla: thought there wre only 384mb? |
16:50.54 | Cotulla | no |
16:51.03 | hunterkll | Cotulla: full amt as reported in winmo not available because linux shows actual usable ram with reserved chunk not counted? |
16:51.09 | Cotulla | 384 on prototypes which are NOT supproted |
16:51.10 | hunterkll | reserved chunk = gfx |
16:51.15 | gauner1986 | ok |
16:51.32 | Cotulla | 515 inlude GPU FB and etc |
16:51.47 | gauner1986 | and how much memory will be really usable then? |
16:51.53 | gauner1986 | netto |
16:51.53 | gauner1986 | :P |
16:52.01 | Cotulla | 400+ |
16:52.10 | hunterkll | Cotulla: so 515 user usable 576 by system right? |
16:52.13 | hunterkll | oh |
16:52.15 | hunterkll | i'm confused |
16:52.18 | Cotulla | no |
16:52.24 | Cotulla | 515 for all android stuffs |
16:52.32 | Cotulla | fb is 6 mb, camera is 8mb, gpu is 3mb |
16:52.40 | Cotulla | mdp is around 20 mb |
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16:52.48 | hunterkll | so where last 61? |
16:52.51 | Cotulla | so 515 - 6 - 3 - 20 |
16:53.07 | Cotulla | used for other cores |
16:53.10 | hunterkll | oh |
16:53.18 | hunterkll | why wince report it than lol |
16:53.32 | Cotulla | actually u buy device with 576 memory |
16:53.33 | crack | btw cotulla which new radio rom? |
16:53.34 | [acl] | jonpry: Need to think of something else now. Ive seen the 3d code enable the vic values and still nothig. So even if we verify all these mappings. somethign else is missing. |
16:53.58 | Cotulla | [acl], yes |
16:53.59 | [acl] | jonpry: what i havent tried and i geuss i should have is to disable the 3d bit on haret before android boots |
16:54.16 | hunterkll | Cotulla: i mean... why report ram that ce cant use for program/os exec |
16:54.27 | Cotulla | CE reports less |
16:54.29 | [acl] | but even that might not work since we blank out the vic bits during init |
16:54.53 | Cotulla | I have total 458 |
16:55.05 | hunterkll | oh wow |
16:55.15 | hunterkll | okay, my misunderstanding |
16:55.33 | hunterkll | used to devices w/o second cpus to offload tasks |
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16:57.00 | Cotulla | should mi->bank[0] be same like haret one? |
16:58.46 | Cotulla | also ramconsole 4mb |
16:59.19 | Cotulla | hm it should be moved |
16:59.19 | gauner1986 | i guess ramconsole can be thrown away once we flash android to nand? |
16:59.20 | gauner1986 | :) |
17:00.04 | hunterkll | no |
17:00.10 | hunterkll | keep it |
17:00.20 | Cotulla | on 448 there no such memory |
17:00.35 | hunterkll | or you will break bluetooth |
17:00.37 | hunterkll | >:3 |
17:00.44 | Cotulla | why? |
17:00.48 | hunterkll | kidding |
17:00.51 | hunterkll | :( |
17:00.56 | gauner1986 | :D |
17:01.00 | Cotulla | how to break? |
17:01.07 | Scrizz | :D |
17:01.09 | gauner1986 | using a stone :P |
17:01.16 | Scrizz | a dark |
17:01.17 | Scrizz | stone |
17:01.22 | Scrizz | :P |
17:01.27 | hunterkll | Cotulla: joke, saying removing ramconsole will break bt lol |
17:01.29 | Cotulla | ok nie |
17:01.54 | hunterkll | because no need for ramconsole on nand, no way to recover w/o jtag |
17:02.51 | Cotulla | wtf |
17:02.59 | Cotulla | dunno about ur methods |
17:03.23 | hunterkll | Cotulla: it was joke |
17:03.24 | jonpry | what do you think this means: 20:16:51 [D:AUD] AUDIO: IsDeviceEncryptionEnabled() return 1 |
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17:03.39 | hunterkll | me saying keep it or something absurd happens |
17:03.54 | hunterkll | because is not needed in that situation |
17:05.35 | Cotulla | ok building |
17:06.01 | Cotulla | LeTama, how is it? |
17:06.42 | Cotulla | gauner1986 maybe u should compile it? |
17:07.35 | gauner1986 | cotulla: if you tell me what? |
17:08.01 | Cotulla | libgps |
17:08.06 | Cotulla | based on gps7k |
17:08.31 | Cotulla | and changes which I pasted before |
17:09.10 | Cotulla | ok it's time to boot |
17:09.19 | Cotulla | epic fail |
17:09.27 | gauner1986 | cotulla: ok |
17:09.52 | Cotulla | is kernel relocable |
17:09.55 | LeTama | Cotulla, build done, testing... |
17:10.00 | gauner1986 | ah ok |
17:10.01 | Cotulla | or it have fixed add? |
17:10.01 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
17:10.06 | LeTama | first test failed :) |
17:10.10 | Cotulla | wtf? |
17:10.26 | Cotulla | u puted it outside of window |
17:10.27 | Cotulla | ? |
17:10.37 | Cotulla | look to logs |
17:11.34 | LeTama | I'm testing with last froyo from darkstone, it seems the libhardware_legacy doesn't use libgps.so |
17:11.47 | Cotulla | hm |
17:11.51 | Cotulla | strange |
17:12.03 | Cotulla | search for libgps string in it |
17:12.03 | LeTama | I reboot to check if it was loaded before I switch dlls |
17:12.12 | LeTama | yes, will do |
17:13.14 | LeTama | ok, it was loaded, now it doesn't boot :) |
17:13.23 | Cotulla | ? |
17:15.01 | LeTama | I don't know why, seems I corrupted my image |
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17:19.42 | LeTama | ok, the problem my libgps |
17:19.54 | Cotulla | ? |
17:20.05 | LeTama | no idea why yet |
17:20.13 | Cotulla | llogs? |
17:21.31 | LeTama | doesn't show much, seems unrelated: I/dalvikvm( 710): Unable to dlopen(/system/lib/libandroid_servers.so): |
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17:21.53 | LeTama | cannot load library: link_image[1995]: failed to link libandroid_servers.so |
17:22.57 | LeTama | when I renamed dll, it started |
17:23.30 | Cotulla | wrong deps maybe? |
17:23.34 | Cotulla | try to stub code |
17:23.49 | gauner1986 | ls |
17:23.51 | gauner1986 | ahrg |
17:23.53 | gauner1986 | wrong windows |
17:23.56 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
17:24.04 | Cotulla | wrong |
17:24.10 | Cotulla | ls |
17:24.12 | Cotulla | cd .. |
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17:24.17 | Cotulla | cd kernel |
17:24.19 | Cotulla | make zImage |
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17:24.32 | hunterkll | lol |
17:24.39 | gauner1986 | it's rather make -j 5 zImage :P |
17:24.42 | hunterkll | windows building :( |
17:24.51 | Cotulla | no |
17:24.57 | Cotulla | ubuntu |
17:25.10 | gauner1986 | it seems you can't build the linux kernel on windows |
17:25.19 | Cotulla | it's bad |
17:25.22 | Cotulla | :\( |
17:25.26 | Cotulla | :'( |
17:25.28 | gauner1986 | somehow you could |
17:25.33 | gauner1986 | but it would mean some effort |
17:25.33 | gauner1986 | :D |
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17:28.29 | NRGZ28 | u probably can in a VM |
17:28.38 | hunterkll | no |
17:28.38 | gauner1986 | thats what cotulla does |
17:28.51 | hunterkll | cygwin + different fs.... |
17:29.01 | gauner1986 | cygwin could do it |
17:29.03 | hunterkll | i think ntfs building may be possible tho |
17:29.07 | gauner1986 | yeah |
17:29.09 | gauner1986 | it is |
17:29.12 | hunterkll | i dont remember |
17:29.17 | gauner1986 | symlinks are supported |
17:29.20 | hunterkll | my win2k runs on ext2 |
17:29.21 | hunterkll | ;P |
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17:29.39 | hunterkll | (LOVE that kernel source leak lol.. ;) ) |
17:29.53 | gauner1986 | :P |
17:30.14 | gauner1986 | develop the same for windows 7 please :P |
17:30.15 | Cotulla | kernel must on bottom of memory/ |
17:30.15 | Cotulla | > |
17:30.17 | Cotulla | > |
17:30.18 | Cotulla | ? |
17:30.38 | gauner1986 | cotulla: that's how it's traditionally done it seems |
17:30.41 | hunterkll | gauner1986: leak me 7 source code :P |
17:30.46 | Cotulla | wtf |
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17:30.53 | hunterkll | Cotulla: is not required |
17:30.57 | Cotulla | and noone documented it |
17:31.11 | hunterkll | kernel can load anywhere |
17:31.25 | hunterkll | (or else kexec() would not work) |
17:31.40 | Cotulla | what is kexec? |
17:31.41 | hunterkll | kernel can also relocate itself |
17:31.57 | hunterkll | Cotulla: executes another linux kernel in ram |
17:32.06 | hunterkll | like how haret boots linux from ce |
17:32.08 | Cotulla | why it need? |
17:32.32 | hunterkll | Cotulla: boot new kernel with security patches without full system cycle |
17:32.37 | gauner1986 | to upgrade your kernel on a running system? |
17:32.38 | gauner1986 | :D |
17:32.50 | Cotulla | hm |
17:32.52 | hunterkll | aka no hardware re-init because of power cycle |
17:33.01 | hunterkll | far shorter reboot time |
17:34.15 | hunterkll | also proprietary solution allowing patching running kernels without reboot lol |
17:34.55 | hunterkll | Cotulla: CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START defines the start address of kernel. |
17:35.02 | hunterkll | you use yes? |
17:35.22 | Cotulla | I want to save kernel at 20000000 |
17:35.30 | Cotulla | and add some memory before it |
17:35.32 | Cotulla | :) |
17:35.46 | hunterkll | support full memory |
17:35.56 | hunterkll | than tell kernel where it lives |
17:36.02 | hunterkll | then tell haret to load there |
17:36.19 | Cotulla | it say 20000000 |
17:36.24 | Cotulla | without changes |
17:36.26 | Cotulla | because |
17:36.32 | Cotulla | I didn't move kernel |
17:36.35 | hunterkll | or tell haret to load at X and use CONFIG_RELOCATABLE to move at run time |
17:37.12 | hunterkll | This feature (enabled with CONFIG_RELOCATABLE) isn't very noticeable for end-users but it's quite interesting from a kernel POV. Until now, it was a requirement that a i386 kernel was loaded at a fixed memory address in order to work, loading it in a different place wouldn't work. This feature allows to compile a kernel that can be loaded at different 4K-aligned addresses, but always below 1 GB, with no runtime overhead |
17:37.15 | gauner1986 | cotulla: what do you want to add before it? Oo |
17:37.18 | Cotulla | there no such |
17:37.20 | Cotulla | CONFIG_RELOCATABLE |
17:37.22 | hunterkll | i do not know about arm support |
17:37.24 | Cotulla | in cofnig |
17:37.33 | Cotulla | even CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START |
17:37.42 | hunterkll | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=968de4f02621db35b8ae5239c8cfc6664fb872d8 |
17:37.49 | hunterkll | maybe i386 only? O.o |
17:38.19 | Cotulla | but ram size in atags is useless? |
17:38.23 | Cotulla | if I have sections |
17:38.32 | Cotulla | ? |
17:39.39 | phh | ram atags are overwriten by machine fixup |
17:39.40 | Cotulla | nice |
17:40.14 | hunterkll | Cotulla: just fyi http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/arm/memory.txt |
17:40.35 | hunterkll | don't know if you are familiar with arm sacred spaces |
17:41.01 | Cotulla | it's VM |
17:41.04 | Cotulla | layout |
17:41.05 | Cotulla | not PA |
17:41.14 | hunterkll | right rgght |
17:41.26 | gauner1986 | there are sacred spaces? |
17:41.27 | gauner1986 | :D |
17:42.22 | hunterkll | do not touch or no boot ;P |
17:42.48 | Cotulla | how to increase dmesg size? |
17:42.58 | hunterkll | Cotulla: research says run time relocation or even rigged kexec location not possible on arm |
17:43.07 | Cotulla | LeTama, auuu? |
17:43.55 | Cotulla | there much more serious problems |
17:44.40 | hunterkll | Cotulla: to expand dmesg? |
17:44.51 | Cotulla | no... with memory problems |
17:44.57 | hunterkll | linux/kernel/printk.c |
17:45.03 | gauner1986 | maybe it would be a good idea to run syslog or something |
17:45.15 | gauner1986 | insted of increasing dmesg size |
17:45.23 | hunterkll | #define LOG_BUFFER_LEN or something |
17:45.39 | hunterkll | gauner1986: can be case we drop messages before loger even up |
17:45.41 | hunterkll | uhh |
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17:45.49 | hunterkll | LOG_BUF_LEN |
17:45.55 | hunterkll | google confirms me |
17:46.00 | gauner1986 | hunterkll: ok true |
17:46.03 | hunterkll | http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0110.0/0186.html |
17:46.42 | Cotulla | CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT |
17:46.43 | Cotulla | actually |
17:46.58 | hunterkll | Cotulla: i recall kernel 2.4.x :P |
17:47.08 | hunterkll | Date: Mon Oct 01 2001 - 18:48:33 EST <-- :) |
17:47.08 | gauner1986 | how ancient |
17:47.50 | gauner1986 | ls |
17:47.51 | hunterkll | Cotulla: that does size or ram addr? |
17:47.52 | gauner1986 | ahrg |
17:47.53 | gauner1986 | fu |
17:47.55 | gauner1986 | again |
17:47.56 | gauner1986 | :) |
17:47.57 | hunterkll | gauner1986: stop it |
17:47.58 | hunterkll | :P |
17:48.03 | Cotulla | size |
17:48.03 | gauner1986 | sorry.. :) |
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17:48.27 | gauner1986 | with two screens it's sometimes difficult to follow |
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17:48.41 | hunterkll | this patch for 2.4.10 adds support for the Intel i830 chipset to the agpgart < same time as other msg lol |
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17:51.29 | gauner1986 | oi |
17:51.31 | gauner1986 | markinus |
17:51.34 | gauner1986 | nice to see you back |
17:51.35 | gauner1986 | :) |
17:51.42 | Cotulla | ~seen Markinus |
17:51.45 | apt | markinus is currently on #htc-linux (22s), last said: 'Cotulla: yes, you're right'. |
17:51.56 | Markinus | hi |
17:52.00 | Cotulla | hello |
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17:52.43 | gauner1986 | battery driver is finished now :P |
17:52.51 | Markinus | ahh, great |
17:52.53 | Cotulla | it's android one |
17:52.56 | Markinus | I had no time :( |
17:53.02 | Markinus | nice |
17:53.11 | Cotulla | even charging and etc |
17:53.13 | Markinus | Cotulla: whats with sound? |
17:53.19 | Markinus | Cotulla: cool! |
17:53.27 | gauner1986 | sound is working except for in-call vol control |
17:53.39 | gauner1986 | even hw3d is working |
17:53.49 | Cotulla | it's now without FL calibration |
17:54.07 | gauner1986 | fl ? |
17:54.13 | Cotulla | yes |
17:54.18 | Cotulla | FullLoad |
17:54.33 | Cotulla | and it's DS2746 :P |
17:54.35 | gauner1986 | ok |
17:54.46 | Markinus | Cotulla: whats with battery draining? Did one tested it? |
17:54.54 | Cotulla | because they read from AUX0 which not exist in DS2745 |
17:55.03 | Cotulla | Markinus, drain current? |
17:55.12 | hunterkll | <PROTECTED> |
17:55.16 | hunterkll | ... er |
17:55.16 | hunterkll | :( |
17:55.27 | Markinus | Cotulla: intresting, the DS2746 has a fix i2c address and this is a other one, , |
17:55.35 | Cotulla | I dunno... also there log |
17:55.40 | Markinus | Cotulla: yes, battery life |
17:55.41 | Cotulla | function for temperature |
17:55.56 | hunterkll | I am try to code arm asm with one hand and type wrong window |
17:55.57 | hunterkll | >< |
17:56.01 | Cotulla | actually now with panel off I got -70 ma |
17:56.11 | Cotulla | but some ppl got -10 ma ... |
17:56.15 | Cotulla | it's strange |
17:56.27 | Cotulla | even CPU only in WFI mode |
17:56.49 | Markinus | Cotulla: yeah, this is one of the biggest problems, to get same battery life as other android devices |
17:56.53 | gauner1986 | there is an actual power management device? |
17:56.55 | hunterkll | Cotulla: perhaps they wish they do? |
17:57.04 | Cotulla | I don't think it's problem for me... |
17:57.04 | hunterkll | or logs provided |
17:57.20 | gauner1986 | cotulla doesn't know the word problem |
17:57.21 | gauner1986 | :P |
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17:58.05 | Markinus | Cotulla: in whitch powersave modus is the kernel running in suspend? 1 ? |
17:58.15 | Cotulla | in WFI |
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17:58.34 | Cotulla | CONFIG_MSM7X00A_SLEEP_MODE=2 |
17:58.41 | Cotulla | CONFIG_MSM7X00A_IDLE_SLEEP_MODE=2 |
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17:58.45 | hunterkll | Markinus: arm state names are weird, no 'back to c!' here.. ;) |
17:58.46 | Markinus | ahh, ok |
17:58.59 | hunterkll | (Anyone remember that message? :) |
17:59.14 | Cotulla | suspend not working yet |
18:00.24 | Markinus | Cotulla: we need a right display type detection too, with the right init code |
18:00.53 | Cotulla | lol |
18:00.58 | Cotulla | *was need |
18:01.03 | gauner1986 | markinus: i guess in market devices there is only one display type :P |
18:01.23 | Markinus | gauner1986: maybe . . .. in the rom are 4 different types |
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18:01.36 | Cotulla | Markinus, already done and finished |
18:01.45 | Cotulla | 2 types - SHARP and AUO |
18:01.45 | Markinus | Cotulla: wow, nice :) |
18:01.57 | Cotulla | prototypes with samsung not supported |
18:01.58 | Refuge | still working on gps |
18:02.48 | Markinus | Cotulla: yeah, there are no hd2 with oled . . |
18:02.52 | Cotulla | LeTama: ping |
18:03.23 | BigDaDDy | are there any plans to work on in-call volume regulations? |
18:03.26 | BigDaDDy | regulation* |
18:03.40 | BigDaDDy | i can't talk with ppl, my mic is too sensitive :( |
18:03.53 | BigDaDDy | i'm not the only one it turns out |
18:04.10 | eugenb | BigDaDDy tried MicDroid App? |
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18:04.26 | gauner1986 | i have a very quiet voice, so no problem here :) |
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18:06.05 | Cotulla | solution... |
18:06.34 | BigDaDDy | gauner1986: its not about quiet voice. every little ambient noise will KILL the other side |
18:06.41 | BigDaDDy | they DONT wanna talk to me while on android :( |
18:06.46 | gauner1986 | :D |
18:06.55 | BigDaDDy | eugenb: no, what is this app? :P |
18:08.26 | eugenb | BigDaDDy: http://intervigil.posterous.com/pages/micdroid |
18:08.40 | eugenb | didn't try it myself yet xD |
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18:09.46 | Cotulla | screen is just white |
18:10.00 | gauner1986 | nice |
18:10.01 | gauner1986 | :P |
18:10.08 | NujaWay | lol |
18:10.37 | MN | so what is the next step pm or .. |
18:10.40 | hunterkll | WSOD +1 |
18:10.59 | hunterkll | mn: no, it;s apparently breaking out of the ram jail |
18:11.09 | hunterkll | we currently only use 251mb or sommat |
18:11.49 | Cotulla | no it still working |
18:11.56 | Cotulla | sounds and etc |
18:12.02 | MN | hmm ok |
18:12.12 | Cotulla | [ 49.483535] kgsl kgsl: |kgsl_mh_intrcallback| mmu page fault interrupt: 0003524b |
18:12.12 | Cotulla | [ 49.483561] kgsl kgsl: |kgsl_mh_intrcallback| mmu page fault interrupt: 0004824b |
18:12.12 | Cotulla | [ 49.483585] kgsl kgsl: |kgsl_mh_intrcallback| mmu page fault interrupt: 0005924b |
18:12.16 | Cotulla | why it's white |
18:12.21 | hunterkll | so working WSOD :P |
18:12.29 | hunterkll | WWSOD +1 |
18:12.31 | Cotulla | WSOW |
18:12.39 | gauner1986 | white screen of win? |
18:12.43 | Cotulla | of work |
18:12.46 | gauner1986 | lol |
18:12.59 | hunterkll | effective death cotulla, effective death. renders mosly useless |
18:15.03 | MN | WSOD thats new |
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18:16.41 | jonpry | [acl]: i wrote a wrapper for wavedev.dll http://pastebin.com/VJZx06Zx |
18:17.10 | LeTama | Cotulla: Sorry, no more time left for now. Wife complains too much :) |
18:17.18 | Cotulla | ok |
18:17.25 | gauner1986 | lol |
18:17.26 | Cotulla | gauner1986, try to compile it |
18:17.27 | Cotulla | :) |
18:17.31 | Cotulla | lol |
18:17.43 | gauner1986 | just because i don't have a wife |
18:17.44 | gauner1986 | :D |
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18:18.19 | Cotulla | u volunteer anyway |
18:18.22 | Cotulla | ;) |
18:18.51 | gauner1986 | sure |
18:18.51 | gauner1986 | :) |
18:19.08 | gauner1986 | but i can't find your changes |
18:19.16 | Cotulla | pastebin |
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18:19.49 | gauner1986 | ah |
18:19.51 | gauner1986 | there it is |
18:19.52 | gauner1986 | ok |
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18:21.11 | Cotulla | so do it! |
18:21.20 | dan1j3l | ello |
18:21.21 | gauner1986 | on it.. |
18:21.23 | gauner1986 | hey dan |
18:21.26 | Cotulla | heu |
18:21.27 | Cotulla | hey |
18:21.34 | [acl] | jonpry: looks good. |
18:21.54 | dan1j3l | is reading logs |
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18:22.25 | [acl] | jonpry: i'll compile tonight. |
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18:32.18 | gauner1986 | cotulla: which file does your file replace? |
18:32.35 | Cotulla | gps-rpc there changes |
18:32.53 | Cotulla | u need apply them to gps-msm7k |
18:33.00 | dan1j3l | ~seen dcordes_ |
18:33.26 | apt | dcordes_ is currently on #htc-linux (6h 57m 19s) #openmoko-cdevel (6h 57m 19s). Has said a total of 91 messages. Is idling for 2h 35m 25s, last said: 'huggy_72: there's no driver for that or so'. |
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18:33.27 | dan1j3l | ~apt seen dcordes_ |
18:33.28 | apt | dcordes_ is currently on #htc-linux (6h 57m 21s) #openmoko-cdevel (6h 57m 21s). Has said a total of 91 messages. Is idling for 2h 35m 27s, last said: 'huggy_72: there's no driver for that or so'. |
18:35.41 | koobool | well, I have got android tree as well :P |
18:36.17 | dan1j3l | dcordes_ ping |
18:36.47 | Cotulla | try dcordes_lib |
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18:38.03 | dan1j3l | ~apt seen dcordes_lib |
18:38.04 | apt | dcordes_lib <83bc1732@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.188.23.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 3d 8h 13m ago, saying: 'mickey|tv: hi'. |
18:38.33 | Crush | hello dev, I see that you are all busy, but i have a java question. I am searching for the location of audioservice.java. I assume it's in framework.jar? |
18:38.44 | Crush | an i must de-dex it... |
18:38.48 | Crush | and* |
18:39.00 | gauner1986 | cotulla: you mean from: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/libhardware_legacy ? |
18:39.16 | Cotulla | ys |
18:39.19 | gauner1986 | ok |
18:39.24 | Cotulla | need to put it to libgps |
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18:39.56 | luc_ | ~apt seen dcordes_ |
18:39.57 | apt | dcordes_ is currently on #htc-linux (7h 3m 50s) #openmoko-cdevel (7h 3m 50s). Has said a total of 91 messages. Is idling for 2h 41m 56s, last said: 'huggy_72: there's no driver for that or so'. |
18:40.03 | Cotulla | dan1j3l, how u fixed issues with packets? |
18:40.35 | dan1j3l | Cotulla: i didn't fixed 3g, where did u get that ? |
18:40.44 | Cotulla | on ur twitter? |
18:40.52 | dan1j3l | ? |
18:41.08 | Cotulla | hm or not ur? |
18:41.25 | dan1j3l | not on my tweet... |
18:41.28 | dan1j3l | :p |
18:41.36 | Cotulla | but there was ur name |
18:41.46 | koobool | @dan13l I will push data patch to git so it can also be used in android. 100% packet loss and MTU hack free. |
18:41.47 | dan1j3l | dcordes said something about stable 3g fix |
18:42.02 | Cotulla | http://twitter.com/hd2_android |
18:42.05 | dan1j3l | so i'm trying to find out what |
18:42.06 | Cotulla | oh read this :) |
18:42.43 | dan1j3l | i don't know who wrote this, but it's bogus.... |
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18:42.59 | dan1j3l | at least i DIDN'T fix it |
18:43.02 | koobool | possibly it was dcordes then... |
18:43.07 | DomZ | dan13l lol |
18:43.28 | Cotulla | u have progress? |
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18:44.22 | koobool | yeah, it was dcordes |
18:44.27 | dan1j3l | in code everything seems fine, tryed to rewrite driver but got same results... |
18:44.34 | koobool | but still no patch in git |
18:44.40 | dan1j3l | maybe userspace related ? |
18:44.49 | rob__ | Hello, any updates, Am I right or wrong in thinking 3G is now 100% no MTU? Should I post? |
18:44.56 | rob__ | mtu problem* |
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18:45.12 | Cotulla | dan1j3l, u implemented packet split? |
18:45.23 | koobool | apparently, but dcordes hasnt uploaded the patch yet |
18:45.35 | Cotulla | rob__, wrong |
18:46.09 | rob__ | okay, Will not post, thankyou :) is there any other progress to report, have skimmed through logs , didnt see much that i should post, did i miss anything? |
18:46.21 | dan1j3l | no, didn't tried that, was too tired, and to little time... |
18:46.29 | Cotulla | dan1j3l, u saw u just got not response if size of ping more 726 bytes |
18:46.40 | koobool | nope, gps work is still in progress.. |
18:47.05 | dan1j3l | cotulla: yes |
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18:47.35 | Cotulla | can someone |
18:47.43 | Cotulla | try different MTU |
18:47.47 | Cotulla | and check ping limit |
18:47.50 | Cotulla | ? |
18:48.01 | Cotulla | to collect statistic |
18:48.13 | manusfreedom | through adb? |
18:48.17 | Cotulla | yes |
18:48.35 | Cotulla | table: MTU == 1500, limit is 726 bytes |
18:49.46 | dan1j3l | i will try to collect some stats |
18:49.48 | Cotulla | hm |
18:49.53 | mastermerlin | will also try |
18:50.43 | Cotulla | hm I got a problem |
18:50.52 | Cotulla | screen is white but I got SMS %) |
18:50.57 | gauner1986 | lol |
18:51.13 | dan1j3l | :D |
18:51.27 | Cotulla | how to grab it??? |
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18:52.40 | manusfreedom | Cotulla: what do you want ping? |
18:52.53 | Cotulla | anything |
18:52.57 | Cotulla | it doesn't matter |
18:53.06 | Cotulla | important is ping size |
18:54.55 | manusfreedom | ....I don't get anything... |
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18:59.00 | manusfreedom_ | re |
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19:00.18 | manusfreedom_ | Cotulla: I do'nt get anything on ping... |
19:00.32 | Cotulla | MTU? |
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19:00.56 | gauner1986 | i can ping without problems |
19:01.58 | manusfreedom_ | MTU at 1500 or 750, I get no return from ping command |
19:03.01 | Cotulla | how big ping? |
19:03.05 | gauner1986 | i have mtu 700 and |
19:03.05 | gauner1986 | ping -c 3 www.google.de |
19:03.06 | gauner1986 | PING www.l.google.com (209.85.129.105) 56(84) bytes of data. |
19:03.06 | gauner1986 | 64 bytes from fk-in-f105.1e100.net (209.85.129.105): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=685 ms |
19:03.06 | gauner1986 | 64 bytes from fk-in-f105.1e100.net (209.85.129.105): icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=502 ms |
19:03.06 | gauner1986 | 64 bytes from fk-in-f105.1e100.net (209.85.129.105): icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=462 ms |
19:04.11 | manusfreedom_ | me I don't get return... but I receive all my mail... 8) |
19:04.52 | dan1j3l | ping with -s option |
19:05.45 | manusfreedom_ | my ping does not have that... |
19:06.01 | manusfreedom_ | maybe I do not have a good andoird... |
19:06.28 | mastermerlin | http://pastebin.com/4ZzG4RLe |
19:07.44 | Cotulla | mastermerlin, we need exact value |
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19:08.26 | mastermerlin | which value? |
19:08.42 | mastermerlin | mtu is 1500 |
19:08.45 | Cotulla | in seconds |
19:08.55 | Cotulla | no |
19:08.55 | Cotulla | err |
19:08.58 | Cotulla | ping size |
19:09.27 | Cotulla | with MTU=1500 |
19:09.33 | Cotulla | there break at 727 |
19:09.35 | Cotulla | or near |
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19:09.53 | mastermerlin | lines 28/29 |
19:10.03 | mastermerlin | -s 700 gives 728 packetsize |
19:10.08 | mastermerlin | which got truncated |
19:10.40 | Cotulla | oh |
19:10.41 | mastermerlin | u need the last value that works? |
19:10.44 | Cotulla | -s 727 |
19:10.48 | mastermerlin | mom |
19:10.51 | Cotulla | yes last value |
19:10.58 | Cotulla | with different MTU |
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19:14.27 | mastermerlin | I am on it .. is kinda weird what seems to work an what doesn't |
19:14.36 | m_a_r_k | quick question for devs when you have a moment: is ip_tables being loadied into the kernel? I ask because DroidWall doesn't work, it complains as if ip_tables isn't loaded |
19:15.37 | dan1j3l | with mtu 700 largets packet i was able to ping is 672 |
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19:16.04 | Cotulla | "-s" option or packet ? |
19:16.09 | dan1j3l | -s |
19:16.23 | Cotulla | with 1500 is 726 right? |
19:16.27 | dan1j3l | yes |
19:16.38 | Cotulla | what about 750? |
19:16.46 | dan1j3l | will try now |
19:17.07 | mastermerlin | had to reboot leo .. |
19:19.25 | dan1j3l | with 750 = 722 |
19:20.34 | mastermerlin | mmhh |
19:20.35 | mastermerlin | PING google.com (74.125.39.104) 694(722) bytes of data. |
19:20.35 | mastermerlin | ^C |
19:20.35 | mastermerlin | --- google.com ping statistics --- |
19:20.35 | mastermerlin | 24 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 23006ms |
19:21.02 | mastermerlin | mtu 750 |
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19:23.19 | gauner1986 | cotulla: i get |
19:23.20 | gauner1986 | hardware/libhardware_legacy/gps/gps-rpc.c:11:17: error: rpc.h: No such file or directory |
19:23.21 | gauner1986 | hardware/libhardware_legacy/gps/gps-rpc.c:12:30: error: rpc_router_ioctl.h: No such file or directory |
19:23.24 | gauner1986 | while compiling |
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19:24.16 | phh | build the librpc |
19:25.25 | phh | in hardware/msm7k/librpc |
19:25.35 | gauner1986 | how do i build that alone? |
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19:26.23 | phh | cd hardware/msm7k/librpc |
19:26.23 | phh | mm |
19:26.47 | gauner1986 | mm? |
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19:27.12 | phh | yeah mm |
19:27.20 | phh | that's an alias you get when doing . build/envsetup.sh |
19:27.41 | gauner1986 | ah i see |
19:29.03 | gauner1986 | make: *** No rule to make target `vendor/htc/bravo/proprietary/parse_radio_log', needed by `out/target/product/bravo/system/bin/parse_radio_log'. Stop. |
19:29.09 | gauner1986 | wtf ^^ |
19:29.22 | gauner1986 | okay.. i'll take that bravo shit out |
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19:31.54 | phh | you want me to build it ? |
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19:32.06 | gauner1986 | would probably be faster.. if you'd do it :) |
19:32.10 | gauner1986 | http://pastebin.com/pnb2eu61 |
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19:32.18 | gauner1986 | that are cotulla's changes |
19:32.21 | gauner1986 | he wanted to test |
19:32.40 | Cotulla | it based on original LeTama test app |
19:32.47 | Cotulla | there stuffs should be uncomented |
19:33.21 | phh | ah it's still just a test app ? |
19:33.55 | Cotulla | dan1j3l, intersting |
19:33.58 | Cotulla | what about 3000 |
19:33.59 | Cotulla | ? |
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19:34.25 | dan1j3l | wait |
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19:35.07 | Cotulla | mastermerlin, so u have full lost with 726? |
19:36.23 | mastermerlin | seems |
19:36.24 | mastermerlin | # ping -s 698 google.com |
19:36.24 | mastermerlin | PING google.com (74.125.39.106) 698(726) bytes of data. |
19:36.24 | mastermerlin | ^C |
19:36.24 | mastermerlin | --- google.com ping statistics --- |
19:36.24 | mastermerlin | 16 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 15006ms |
19:36.27 | mastermerlin | mtu 3000 |
19:37.35 | mastermerlin | # ifconfig rmnet0 mtu 700 |
19:37.35 | mastermerlin | # ping -s 698 google.com |
19:37.35 | mastermerlin | PING google.com (74.125.39.106) 698(726) bytes of data. |
19:37.36 | mastermerlin | ^C |
19:37.36 | mastermerlin | --- google.com ping statistics --- |
19:37.36 | mastermerlin | 15 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 14006ms |
19:37.51 | phh | /home2/pt/android-2.0/hardware/msm7k/librpc/test.leo.c:745: undefined reference to `pdsm_get_position_leo' |
19:38.15 | dan1j3l | 726 is highest we can get |
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19:38.34 | mastermerlin | 1452/2 |
19:38.49 | mastermerlin | where 1452 was old setting in most routers i know |
19:39.15 | phh | hardware/msm7k/librpc/test.leo.c:726: warning: too few arguments for format |
19:39.15 | phh | am I supposed to fix everything wrong in the source ? |
19:39.22 | gauner1986 | lol |
19:39.28 | Cotulla | ? |
19:39.32 | Cotulla | phh |
19:39.46 | Cotulla | what is test.leo.c? |
19:39.55 | phh | the file gauner1986 pastebin |
19:40.00 | gauner1986 | also didnt have that file |
19:40.16 | phh | http://husson.hd.free.fr/test-gpsleo |
19:40.16 | Cotulla | what about MTU=350 |
19:40.40 | phh | http://husson.hd.free.fr/test.leo.c for the source file |
19:40.42 | Cotulla | u putted init_leo()? |
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19:40.50 | phh | no |
19:41.00 | Cotulla | gauner1986, u? |
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19:41.20 | Rafyvitto | hello guys |
19:41.52 | gauner1986 | cotulla: no |
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19:42.03 | gauner1986 | cotulla: that's the pastebin as i found it |
19:42.08 | Cotulla | shit |
19:42.28 | Cotulla | it won't wor |
19:42.31 | Cotulla | k |
19:42.43 | Cotulla | how big is android tree? |
19:42.54 | phh | some GB |
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19:43.34 | Cotulla | bad |
19:43.36 | Unholy | 2gigawatts |
19:43.39 | Unholy | XD |
19:43.43 | Rafyvitto | lol |
19:43.53 | gauner1986 | cotulla: 2 or 3gb |
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19:44.01 | mastermerlin | for mtu 350 max is 700 for me |
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19:44.57 | Cotulla | so we can't get GPS working |
19:45.05 | Cotulla | because we just can't compile |
19:45.06 | Cotulla | lol |
19:45.15 | phh | I just built it |
19:45.26 | Cotulla | but there should be changes |
19:45.34 | gauner1986 | what changes? |
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19:46.18 | Cotulla | there printf("GPS:Event Velocity\n"); |
19:46.23 | Cotulla | code should be uncomented |
19:46.49 | Cotulla | also use init_leo() instead of init_gps6125() |
19:46.53 | phh | perhaps first check the demo code works ... ? |
19:46.56 | phh | ??? |
19:47.00 | phh | the code I have use init_leo |
19:47.02 | Cotulla | demo code is working |
19:47.04 | mastermerlin | gotta go ⦠|
19:47.13 | Cotulla | but file which I give it's demo |
19:47.17 | phh | why the hell do you give me the sources of a demo code then |
19:47.28 | Cotulla | I give it to gauner1986 |
19:47.44 | Cotulla | I assume he will change it back |
19:47.48 | gauner1986 | you didn't tell me to change sth |
19:47.49 | gauner1986 | :D |
19:47.52 | Cotulla | because I have not android tree |
19:47.55 | dan1j3l | for me max is MTU-28 (for 350 =322) |
19:47.57 | Cotulla | I thought u know... sry |
19:48.04 | gauner1986 | cotulla: np :) |
19:48.14 | Cotulla | dan1j3l |
19:48.22 | Cotulla | but it should split ping? |
19:48.53 | dan1j3l | hmm |
19:49.12 | phh | Cotulla: perhaps rmnet is somehow flooded |
19:49.53 | dan1j3l | it get past but with 99% loss |
19:50.10 | dan1j3l | but most of the time 100% loss |
19:50.18 | mastermerlin | seemss something is wrong with packet |
19:50.29 | phh | right, once upon time, there was a ping packet that succesfuilly went through. |
19:50.37 | phh | but we've never seen him again |
19:50.41 | mastermerlin | MTU - 28 "overhead" |
19:51.09 | mastermerlin | ping /dev/null :P |
19:51.42 | gauner1986 | cotulla: the volcity printf actually is uncommented |
19:51.54 | Cotulla | gauner1986, u need get original version |
19:51.55 | gauner1986 | so are the other debug printfs |
19:52.06 | Cotulla | and compare |
19:52.12 | Cotulla | and add only chnages for leo |
19:52.21 | gauner1986 | ok |
19:52.22 | phh | Cotulla: basically the only change is pdsm_get_position arg size ? |
19:52.31 | Cotulla | yes and init |
19:52.39 | phh | init looks identical oO |
19:52.48 | Cotulla | versions |
19:52.54 | phh | yeah right |
19:53.14 | Cotulla | dan1j3l, so ping can occupy several packets? |
19:53.22 | gauner1986 | cotulla: sorry, didnt know that |
19:53.37 | dan1j3l | it seems so |
19:53.54 | Cotulla | u have dump enabled |
19:54.01 | Cotulla | ? |
19:54.46 | MN | ~seen dcordes_ |
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19:56.43 | koobool | cotulla: I have got full android tree, I can build something for you if you wish |
19:57.16 | Cotulla | it maybe difficult because it may need changes |
19:58.21 | koobool | mmm.. I see |
19:58.56 | dan1j3l | ok, time to recompile kernel with some debug info |
19:59.55 | koobool | you need libloc_api? |
19:59.56 | Cotulla | in my driver |
20:00.01 | Cotulla | there |
20:00.05 | Cotulla | already some output |
20:00.09 | Cotulla | koobool, no |
20:00.17 | Cotulla | gauner1986, progress? |
20:00.43 | koobool | libhardware_legacy/gps? :) |
20:00.46 | gauner1986 | i keep getting dependency-errors in android tree, when trying to compile that stuff.... |
20:01.40 | Cotulla | koobool, we need |
20:01.44 | Cotulla | gps7k |
20:01.48 | Cotulla | compiled as libgps |
20:02.07 | koobool | mm.. there is no gps7k in my tree :/ |
20:02.29 | gauner1986 | i think cotulla means |
20:02.29 | gauner1986 | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/libhardware_legacy/trees/master/gps |
20:02.35 | Cotulla | yes, but with changes |
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20:02.52 | Cotulla | koobool, maybe u can provide RDP? |
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20:03.04 | gauner1986 | cotulla: i can give you ssh access |
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20:03.23 | gauner1986 | cotulla: or whatever you want |
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20:04.22 | Cotulla | I need some kind of remote to see and edit |
20:04.27 | gauner1986 | ok |
20:04.32 | gauner1986 | are you familar with ssh? |
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20:04.34 | koobool | I have got only: Android.mk gps.cpp gps_qemu.c |
20:04.37 | Cotulla | no :D |
20:04.40 | koobool | wrong branch i guess... |
20:04.45 | Cotulla | yes |
20:05.10 | gauner1986 | cotulla: nothing special about it.. you just need http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe |
20:05.16 | gauner1986 | and my connection data |
20:05.26 | gauner1986 | and then a terminal connection will be established |
20:05.31 | gauner1986 | just like you have it in ubuntu |
20:05.43 | gauner1986 | you can use nano or so to edit |
20:05.50 | Cotulla | nano??? |
20:05.57 | gauner1986 | console based editor |
20:06.02 | gauner1986 | or vi |
20:06.06 | gauner1986 | or whatever you like |
20:06.18 | Cotulla | mc? |
20:06.23 | gauner1986 | mc is also present |
20:06.28 | Cotulla | lets try... |
20:06.32 | gauner1986 | ok |
20:06.37 | dan1j3l | i work everything with joe :d |
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20:06.48 | Cotulla | joe? |
20:07.02 | Cotulla | is it nice |
20:07.07 | Cotulla | or even more #(*%&#& than vi? |
20:07.30 | dan1j3l | well, it's very easy to work with |
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20:07.49 | koobool | nano ftw :D |
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20:11.15 | dan1j3l | time for dinner, bbl |
20:11.15 | koobool | i would advise you cotulla to get your local android tree, it is pretty straightforward.. like two-three commands or so :P |
20:11.16 | koobool | but there is quite a lot of source to download;] |
20:11.16 | Cotulla | I don't wanna to put my hands in shit |
20:11.17 | Cotulla | yeah |
20:11.17 | Cotulla | too many files |
20:11.17 | Cotulla | hm joe |
20:11.17 | koobool | lol |
20:11.18 | Cotulla | at least I found how to exit from it |
20:11.18 | HardDisk_WP | joe is the easiest |
20:11.18 | HardDisk_WP | of all |
20:11.18 | koobool | not true, nano wins here ;p |
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20:11.18 | koobool | mcedit is easy as well ;] |
20:11.18 | HardDisk_WP | Cotulla, vi is the always-#1 of fucked-up editors... |
20:11.35 | Cotulla | no |
20:11.40 | Cotulla | I hate vi |
20:11.47 | koobool | vi is for no-lifes and linux geeks :D |
20:12.00 | Cotulla | or I even hate vim |
20:12.04 | Cotulla | :D |
20:12.07 | redgar | but that what ulearn in school |
20:12.10 | koobool | however, it is pretty powerfull though... if you know how to use it.. |
20:12.17 | koobool | but it can take years to learn :D |
20:12.21 | Cotulla | but I should hate VI more than VIM I guess |
20:12.53 | redgar | nano is gewd |
20:13.11 | bozuk | what about emacs ? that's what I call shit |
20:13.11 | The_Tess | cmd.exe is the one ha |
20:13.24 | koobool | ok, what about edlin then? :D |
20:13.39 | bozuk | nightmare |
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20:13.54 | koobool | anyone remmebers it? :P |
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20:13.59 | bozuk | Me |
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20:14.08 | bozuk | even I have to use it |
20:14.13 | koobool | lol |
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20:14.25 | bozuk | and when I met Vi afther that vim I was just happy |
20:15.27 | thevishy | hi |
20:15.52 | thevishy | which wud be a nice htc to buy for phone / 3g browsing / ebook reading / videos |
20:16.06 | thevishy | with nice display |
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20:17.29 | bozuk | I thing that if someone lost sometime to learn vim I'll not regret, the most powerfull editor I have seen for console |
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20:17.37 | koobool | bozuk: yes, I agree, although learning curve is pretty steep |
20:17.57 | koobool | so it is not for casual users |
20:18.00 | bozuk | Yes I also agree with that |
20:18.18 | thevishy | any reco for the phone with the above specs |
20:18.21 | bozuk | I will say vim is for programmers only |
20:18.35 | thevishy | is this HTC phone page :) |
20:18.55 | thevishy | can i know where i can ask q about mobiles |
20:18.56 | ElBartoME | no, not really |
20:19.02 | thevishy | :( |
20:19.23 | thevishy | .join gsm |
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20:20.19 | koobool | vim is actually much better than pure vi.. with all this code coloring.. and you can just type/edit files straight away, no need to use some weird combinations |
20:20.19 | koobool | as long as you need combination to quit, it is OK :D |
20:20.19 | koobool | *know ;] |
20:20.29 | thevishy | why do the unlocked phones cost much higher than locked ones ? |
20:21.00 | thevishy | if it costs only a mere software hack to make it unlocked , then why such a big difference ? |
20:21.13 | huggy_72 | -q |
20:21.27 | thevishy | can we buy an HTC from some company and unlock ourselves |
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