IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100721

00:02.01on1ydabestany devs around
00:02.23Scrizzask cyanogen
00:02.31Scrizzhe made some changes to that
00:02.41Scrizzor fireat on forums
00:03.07on1ydabestk
00:03.14Scrizz;)
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00:11.29Scrizzy u little abuser U
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00:18.21Tungmeisternot sure if anyone else is having this problem but in desire5 i've got no ringtones or notification sounds available to select
00:19.32Cassadd some from marketplace
00:19.57Tungmeisterjust confirming that there aren't any meant to be present
00:20.06Cassa few people have mentioned it
00:20.15Tungmeisterkk
00:20.15Cassjoin #htc-linux-chat
00:20.17gauner1986hey cass
00:20.26Casshey bud .. hows you ?
00:20.31gauner1986hm
00:20.33gauner1986little bored
00:20.34Tungmeisterit's all good was just confirming it wasn't an issue
00:20.34gauner1986:)
00:20.36gauner1986you?
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00:20.50CassTungmeister, np .. discussions been happening there
00:20.56Cassgauner1986, yeah fine
00:21.02Cassnot bored looking at a few things
00:21.09gauner1986what is that?
00:21.17Cassohh its secret :p
00:21.28gauner1986oh my god.. :P
00:21.47Casslol, nah looking to see why i cant add google camersa to desire build .. and how i should go abt resigning it if it needs
00:21.52Cassand also gps .
00:22.06Cass$GPGSV,4,3,16,12,,,,30,,,,23,,,,26,,,*7C
00:22.06Cass$GPGSV,4,4,16,27,,,,14,,,,31,,,,10
00:22.12Cassgot that from smd27 tonight
00:22.18Casscant be much in the way of it working
00:22.25gauner1986hm
00:22.27gauner1986looking good
00:22.30Casslooking to desire source for a clue
00:22.36gauner1986maybe just the connection to android is missing
00:22.52Cassnot sure .. to get that im sure i had to be connected to gps in winmo
00:22.55gauner1986windows has some kind of proxy for gps
00:23.01gauner1986i wonder if it's the same on android
00:23.16Cassthe source seems not to be too detailed on gps ..
00:23.26Cassthere is not much place for smd to be going on for it ..
00:23.36Cassalso android seesm to use libgps
00:23.47Casslooking for phh app just now to see if that works
00:23.56Casshe made a userland one ..
00:23.58gauner1986phh app?
00:24.00gauner1986hm
00:24.16gauner1986and how did you dump gps?
00:24.23Casscat /dev/smd27
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00:25.32slovenecdarkstone, ur v5 build is just awesome!!!! it's 3.30 am here and i just can't stop myself from playing with it:D
00:25.39Cassfnar
00:25.42gauner1986hmmm.. how long did it take for you to get sth there?
00:25.46slovenecand battery actually charges :P
00:26.09gauner19862.25am here
00:26.10gauner1986:)
00:26.21fakker1:25
00:26.24gauner1986hope today is cotulla's leo day
00:26.45Cassit was immediatly after boot .. nothing now .. if yo activate gps in winmo, then boot then cat you will see it .. could just be residue but hey the device is created and there is data showing
00:26.59sloveneceverybody hopes that next day is cotulla day
00:27.07slovenecwe al his bitches:P
00:27.20slovenecall*
00:27.21fakkerif we quit bugging he might
00:27.42Scrizzyes
00:27.49Scrizzquit bugging and donate more
00:27.52gauner1986nah
00:27.54Casshey he's off coding for my magician so :p
00:27.55gauner1986bugging rules!
00:28.01gauner1986magician
00:28.01gauner1986pah
00:28.04gauner1986what's that
00:28.11Cassahh you one
00:28.13sloveneche isnt doin it just for money i believe
00:28.14Cassyoung
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00:28.27Scrizzwell money is still good
00:28.36Casshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Magician
00:28.37fakkerstill has magician
00:28.45fakkerin a cupboard under the stairs
00:28.46fakkerlol
00:28.47sloveneci hope guy gets rich some day
00:28.56gauner1986that phone is too old to have android
00:28.57gauner1986:P
00:28.59Scrizzlol
00:29.04Scrizzban cass
00:29.05gauner198664 mb
00:29.06Scrizzlolz
00:29.10gauner1986that's gonna be a pain
00:29.14Scrizzdisgraceful
00:29.18Scrizzlolz
00:29.18slovenecthey had 128 version too:P
00:29.23Cassandroid pfff who'd waste a work of art like that with a new fangled os like android
00:29.24gauner1986128 sucks too
00:29.27gauner1986:P
00:29.35slovenecxD
00:29.42Cassthe magician2
00:29.44Cass128
00:29.58Cassworst fucking phone i ever had
00:30.02gauner1986:D
00:30.12Cassit ran out of battery and had to hard reset
00:30.15gauner1986my worst phone was... a motorola
00:30.17gauner1986the first one
00:30.18gauner1986:P
00:30.25Scrizz<PROTECTED>
00:30.28fakkeri had the nokia 7110
00:30.31gauner1986then it was.. siemens sl45.. first mp3-phne
00:30.55slovenechas anyone noticed that turbo mode is only when ur device has been to sleep once or it isnt on charger? maybe windows PM fucks clocks somehow
00:31.10fakkerslovenec, yeah - if its been on winmo sleep and i try its nearly always turbo
00:31.24gauner1986interesting
00:31.32slovenecso this could be it
00:31.32fakkeri thought it was just me
00:31.36CassScrizz, yeah it was named after me :P
00:31.41DiscoLinux435desire v5 killed winmo sense for anybody else?
00:31.41gauner1986for me it is always
00:31.46gauner1986first turbo mode
00:31.48gauner1986then gsod
00:31.49gauner1986then booting
00:31.51gauner1986:D
00:31.52sloveneci don't think we would get turbo from NAND boot
00:31.53fakkerii dont get gsod anymore
00:31.57fakkeryou gave me my first gsod :(
00:32.08Cassgauner1986, polluted my hd2 .. i get them now and again
00:32.08gauner1986don't smoke too much man
00:32.09gauner1986:P
00:32.12fakkerpfff
00:32.16fakkerthe night is still young
00:32.23Scrizzand so is fakker
00:32.25Cassgreen smoke of doom
00:32.30gauner1986:D
00:32.32gauner1986well
00:32.33fakkerlike lost
00:32.34ScrizzxD
00:32.36fakkerwaaaaaaaaaaalt
00:32.43gauner1986someone got a fogmachine?
00:32.45gauner1986:D
00:32.47Cassi have
00:32.48sloveneci had
00:32.54slovenecand it broke
00:32.55fakkeri have a strobe
00:32.58Cassraver
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00:33.01fakker;]
00:33.02slovenecexcessive use (A)
00:33.05fakkertechno techno techno
00:33.09fakkerlol
00:33.11Casse e the drug for me
00:33.12slovenechouse
00:33.16fakkerhaha
00:33.18slovenecand electro
00:33.22fakkergabber
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00:33.42gauner1986i'll make some creepy pictures with gsod + fog
00:33.55fakkerwaits for quake live to load
00:34.09slovenecgauner, how come you always end up with gsod?
00:34.15gauner1986not always
00:34.17gauner1986but often
00:34.25sloveneci know
00:34.29gauner1986and i don't know
00:34.31gauner1986:)
00:34.31slovenecbut it's funny
00:34.43slovenecxD
00:34.47fakkerdid dan release his build yet? he tweeted about his froyo sense build
00:34.54Cassno
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00:34.59gauner1986it's like an epidemic
00:35.05slovenecit's also 3am in zagreb... so...
00:35.06hypersonicxwhats dans twitter?
00:35.06fakkerare we there yet?
00:35.18fakkerhttp://twitter.com/dan1j3l
00:35.26gauner1986no
00:35.30gauner1986he hasn't released anything
00:35.46hypersonicxcool
00:35.53hypersonicxdoes dark use twitter also?
00:36.00sloveneche's slow worker, not like cotulla..
00:36.24fakkerhypersonicx, dunno - he talks in #htc-linux-chat about whats going on
00:36.27gauner1986cotulla's on vacation
00:36.33gauner1986otherwise he couldn't do so much
00:36.35gauner1986:)
00:36.36slovenecwell deserved
00:36.38slovenec;)
00:37.12gauner1986mh battery is at 38°C
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00:37.45slovenec:O
00:37.49slovenec38?!?!
00:37.58sloveneci had 34 and i was scared
00:38.14gauner1986i don't think that's dangerous at all
00:38.14slovenecphone burned on back
00:38.19ElBartoMEi had 43°C the other day :P
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00:38.27gauner1986re dan
00:38.28gauner1986:)
00:38.34fakker:D
00:38.35fakkerhe watches
00:38.36ElBartoMEthe battery shuts itself down when it's getting to hot
00:38.38Cassmine is 31.9
00:38.46ElBartoMEat least in wm xD
00:38.51gauner1986:D
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00:38.54gauner1986in wm
00:38.55gauner1986yeah
00:39.10slovenecyeah there must be some code to support it
00:39.29Cassbattery has basic code right now in linux
00:39.35Cassread onlu
00:39.37Cassonly
00:39.49gauner1986i still wonder what has to be written on battery
00:40.08sloveneccharge when not plugged from boot on
00:40.29slovenecit recognizes but does not charge
00:40.49slovenecand calibration
00:40.53Cassthe carge part comes from wimo
00:40.56Casscharge
00:41.11slovenecso NAND will solve again
00:41.14slovenec...
00:41.18Cass??
00:41.26Cassmode code will solve from linux
00:41.29Cassmore
00:41.35Cassgod im shite at typing tonight
00:41.37slovenecif we don't have wm screwing up it boots freshly
00:41.51gauner1986time to select: do not charge when plugged into pc
00:41.52Cassyes but the code still needs to be there for battery
00:42.25slovenecyep, this is why cotulla doesn't release it
00:42.42Casswhat nand or fully battery support ?
00:43.00ElBartoMEi made a full log today of the battery. gonna send them to cotulla. hope that helps
00:43.07Cassgood man..
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00:43.16ElBartoMEhalf charged -> full charged -> fully discharged
00:43.19gauner1986darkstone's new build is pretty fast
00:43.26Cassyeah its nice
00:43.29sloveneci meand if we get fresh boot from bootloader skupping WM it could skip some problems
00:43.37Cassohh yeah im sure we could
00:43.42Refugedid he release a new build today?
00:43.46Jack_Eyep
00:43.49Cassnot so easy i dont thinhk thuough
00:43.49Refugeyay
00:43.51Refuge:p
00:43.53sloveneclike an hour ago
00:44.04gauner1986okay
00:44.06slovenecor two time flies fast(A)
00:44.13gauner1986it's time to do the coding alone *ehem*
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00:44.31Cassgauner1986, good luck with that
00:44.34slovenecwhat u working on gauner
00:44.37slovenec?
00:44.38gauner1986was just kidding
00:44.58gauner1986i'm checking code here and there and see if i can do anything
00:44.59slovenecyou little!!! argghgrr
00:45.01gauner1986but mostly it fails
00:45.03slovenec:P
00:45.18gauner1986lack of asm skills
00:45.21Jack_Efailcode?
00:45.26Refugethere's no download link
00:45.27Refugeon the page
00:45.28Refuge:p
00:45.31slovenecit is
00:45.35slovenecon the bottom
00:45.35Refugewher lol
00:45.37Jack_Egotta love failcode
00:45.39Refugeoh
00:46.01gauner1986usb storage still doesn't work on darkstone's new build
00:46.10Refugehow is the new build
00:46.19slovenectry it ;):P
00:46.25slovenecsuperfine for me
00:46.25Cassgauner1986, no ?  tried disabling adb in android
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00:47.12gauner1986cass: hm.. yes..
00:47.17Cassk
00:47.29Cassworks on froyo to my annoyance ..
00:47.35Refugewhen will he put in apps2sd
00:47.36Refuge?
00:47.37Casscould not figure out why it worked
00:47.38gauner1986in froyo it also works for me
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00:48.17slovenecerm, why is init panel so friggin long and slow on HD2... i had andromnia once and i participated there-init was like flash for 2 seconds
00:48.46Cassbigger panel :p
00:48.49gauner1986:D
00:49.00slovenecthat one was deep xD
00:49.03Casshaha
00:49.10slovenecspiritual
00:49.16slovenec:P
00:49.18ElBartoMElol, since i have backlight on 100% the temperature went from 33°C up to nearly 38°C
00:49.37gauner1986okay
00:49.46gauner1986i switched off charging when connected to pc
00:49.51slovenecHD2 has one huuuuge bulb for backlight:P
00:49.55ElBartoMEyeah i did that too
00:49.55gauner1986and battery is at 34°c now
00:50.17ElBartoMEi'm not discharging and it's at 37.4°C...hmm
00:50.36ElBartoMEseems the backlight procudes a lot of heat
00:50.37Casskill all apps, i fond battery heats up when im running lots
00:50.47tmztCass: that's probably stuff left in the smd circular buffer
00:50.48ElBartoMEi don't have any apps running
00:50.54slovenecand back cover off
00:50.58ElBartoMEit's off
00:51.01Casstmzt, yeah could be
00:51.08gauner1986elbartome: maybe look to top.. if there is an app that takes a lot of cpu usage
00:51.14Casstmzt, any idea where phh userland app is ?
00:51.59ElBartoMEno app, i didn't touch android since it is booted
00:52.07ElBartoMEonly set backlight to max
00:52.22gauner1986there can still be a proccess eating up cpu time
00:52.24ElBartoMEsince then it went up to ~38°C
00:52.28slovenecreboot?
00:52.32gauner1986-c
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00:52.54ElBartoMEbattery at 8%
00:52.59ElBartoMEwanna see when it's turning off
00:53.40slovenecturn on camera for faster drain
00:53.43slovenechehe
00:53.45gauner1986mine feels totally cool now
00:53.50ElBartoMEi have -344mA :P
00:53.54ElBartoMEthat's enough for now
00:54.07ElBartoME107mAh left
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00:55.04sloveneccrap
00:56.41slovenecdoes anyone know what cotulla has on his mind to work on next?
00:56.51gauner1986magician? T_T
00:57.10slovenecisn't this just for today?
00:57.13ElBartoMEyeah, i hope he has the leo on his mind :P
00:57.25gauner1986otherwise we have to get leo on his mind
00:57.26gauner1986:D
00:57.36ElBartoME:D
00:58.17slovenecwith those paranormal specialists xD
00:58.25ElBartoME6%, it's getting critical
00:58.47slovenecbut, will it blend?
00:58.57ElBartoME:D
00:58.59slovenec:D
00:59.00gauner1986lol
00:59.02ElBartoMEoff
00:59.12ElBartoMEdied at 6%
00:59.30sloveneci was already writing to you that i bet you it will die in a minute
00:59.43slovenecit should at 5% like WM
01:00.24ElBartoMEk
01:00.41ElBartoMEgonna clean up the logs and send them to cotulla tomorrow
01:00.48Scrizzk
01:01.23slovenecwhat os do you guys use for adb
01:01.31sloveneccms sucks
01:01.31Scrizzwin here
01:01.35Cassubuntu
01:01.35ElBartoMEwindows and linux
01:01.56sloveneci tried to setup in latest mint but it fails
01:02.16slovenecsome crappy unexplainable errors
01:02.23slovenec:S
01:02.24gauner1986i use cygwin shell
01:02.36Scrizzgross
01:02.42gauner1986displays colors correctly
01:02.43Cassgauner1986, you compiled in that yet ?
01:02.48Scrizzpfft
01:02.50gauner1986you can't use the arrow keys though
01:02.57gauner1986cass: compiled in what?
01:02.57Casssame oon linux
01:03.01Casswindows
01:03.16gauner1986cass: didn't get the kernel to compile on cygwin if you mean that
01:03.17Casshjkl for vi :)
01:03.22Cassyeah i meant that
01:03.22Scrizzpower shell w/ thing?
01:03.39gauner1986but in console (a windows program) you can actually use the arrow keys
01:03.40sloveneccrappy os's i think cotulla shoud build one... opensource and standard
01:03.50gauner1986but no colors in it
01:03.51gauner1986-.-
01:03.53Scrizz>_>
01:04.03Scrizzwe liek pretty color, eh?
01:04.06Cassgauner1986, you can use arrows on vi from a windows cmd ?
01:04.12gauner1986cass: yes
01:04.16Cassinteresting
01:04.20Scrizzyes
01:05.08slovenecandroid sdk supports mac too?
01:05.13Cassyes
01:05.15slovenecgotta try this one
01:05.16gauner1986hm
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01:05.23gauner1986does the screen really turn off now?
01:05.27Cassi rooted my legend on a mac
01:05.30slovenecmaybe it will do better job
01:05.30gauner1986adb works fine on mac
01:05.44slovenechehe
01:05.50slovenechackintosh ftw
01:05.54Cassgauner1986, yeah screen turns off for me .. well the blk does anyhoo
01:06.02gauner1986that's good
01:06.15Cassand more importantly it turns back on :P
01:06.26gauner1986nah
01:06.31gauner1986who needs turning it back on
01:06.31gauner1986:D
01:06.50slovenecyeah.. you have red button that always turns it on
01:06.54slovenec:P
01:07.02Scrizzjaja
01:07.03Scrizzhaha
01:07.09gauner1986i have a red button to destroy the world
01:07.12gauner1986muhahaha
01:07.12Scrizzthey even have web OS
01:07.20Scrizz:(
01:07.40gauner1986web os...
01:07.42gauner1986who needs that..
01:07.45Scrizzu
01:07.51slovenecgauner1986 take the red pill, or the blue pill
01:08.00slovenecprinter from now on:P
01:08.08slovenecprinters**
01:08.12Cassred
01:09.10slovenechp fucked up with palm. htc should buy it, tae all good things and shut it down forever
01:09.13slovenecmuhahaha
01:09.53sloveneciEvil
01:09.58gauner1986what would htc just be without xda?
01:09.58Casshtc probably didnt think webos was all that
01:10.19Casspossibly even the patent portfolio
01:11.34slovenecbut it was cheap for their patents, so buy, take, shut down and make them just distributor for U.S.
01:11.54slovenec:P
01:12.38gauner1986only 31° :)
01:13.03slovenecthis is my average:O
01:13.45ElBartoMEokay the battery lasts about 5 1/2h (minimal backlight/full backlight when i was on 30%, no "sleep mode", no wifi)
01:14.06sloveneccan someone get spare parts app
01:14.13slovenecto work for hd21
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01:14.33slovenecshare an apk or whatever
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01:16.03Cassdunno what that is
01:16.04Scrizztry asking the peeps in chat
01:16.37slovenecand app that monitors complete usage of phone
01:16.40ElBartoMEgn8 everybody
01:16.43gauner1986night
01:16.44ElBartoMEneed some sleep
01:16.49slovenecand has some advanced settings
01:17.10slovenecnvm found it
01:17.10gauner1986hm
01:17.15gauner1986didn't get fm to crash anymore
01:17.16gauner1986:D
01:17.29slovenecno GSOD?
01:17.32slovenec:P
01:17.34Scrizznope
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01:18.46Refugehow do you guys measure temp
01:18.47Refuge?
01:18.51Refugeon the phone
01:18.58slovenecwell i'm off too... time to give my phone abit rest
01:18.59gauner1986dmesg
01:19.07slovenecor you can use apps
01:19.14Refugeoh
01:19.18Refugewhat is normal temp
01:19.21Refugefor the hd3
01:19.22Refuge2
01:19.41gauner1986around 32°C or so
01:20.01Refugeit's getting hot
01:20.03Refugeon android
01:20.07slovenecaround 30
01:20.24Refugeis it possible to overheat the processor
01:20.34slovenecdownload yourself battery indicator to see it in task bar
01:20.49Refugeoh k
01:20.52slovenechardly
01:21.04slovenecif gauner didn't do it:P
01:21.17slovenecand he had crashes and gsod's:P
01:21.29Refugewhy is there no root in the desire build?
01:21.35Refugei tryed terminal emulator
01:21.37Cass?
01:21.37Refugeand i can't su
01:21.50Refugeand grant any apps with root promissions
01:21.52slovenecwe don't have that
01:21.55gauner1986su doesnt work in terminal emu
01:22.02Refugeoh
01:22.10Refugeis it possible to grant apps with root?
01:22.16Refugei wanted to try over clocking
01:22.22Cass:)
01:22.26slovenecxD
01:22.30Refugelol what
01:22.30Refuge?
01:22.43slovenecoverclocking the fastest proc
01:22.44slovenec:P
01:22.46Refugeramp it up to 998 it's been stuck on 768
01:22.47Cassteeter is not running fast enough
01:22.54gauner1986:D
01:23.04slovenecbut not because slow processor
01:23.13slovenecwe need optimization
01:23.14CassRefuge, it will scale if it needs too
01:23.39Refugeanyone been having the slow market ishue
01:23.40Refugeand install
01:23.46gauner1986btw.. how do i use this superuser app in android?
01:23.49gauner1986anyone knows?
01:23.59sloveneccan you use it?
01:24.04gauner1986no
01:24.09gauner1986that's why i'm asking
01:24.12Refugethat's what root uses
01:24.27Refugeit's just a list of root user apps
01:24.30Refugeand control for them
01:24.35slovenecoh
01:24.43slovenecand you can't add right?
01:24.54Refugei guess not they just said it didn't work
01:24.54Refuge:p
01:24.57Refugeboo
01:24.57sloveneci mean in UI
01:25.08Refugeif su won't work then that wont work
01:25.09Refuge:p
01:25.31sloveneccrap, why even having a shortcut then
01:25.33Refugeany chances on getting a defanged version of sence
01:25.33Refuge?
01:25.33slovenec:P
01:25.49slovenecdefanged?
01:25.53Refugerooted
01:25.57Refuge= defanged
01:26.11Refugesuper user access
01:26.13sloveneci believe darkstone tried
01:26.19slovenecbut failed
01:26.23Refugelol
01:26.37slovenecfrom custom desire rom with root
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01:26.45Refugemost root access is used by a modifactions to the install
01:26.50Refugeso once we get nand running
01:26.53Refugewe should be able to do it
01:27.07slovenecyep nand solves a lot of crap
01:27.25Refugei'm looking foward to apps2sd
01:27.42slovenecit doesn't work?
01:27.44Refugei think it would make a big difference
01:27.56Scrizznope
01:27.59Refugei dont think he added on the new build
01:28.01Scrizzy u want that
01:28.03Refugei know he was talking about it
01:28.13Scrizzwe have plenty of rom space to use
01:28.16Refugebecause it makes apps run better from sdcard
01:28.20Scrizzwhen we get to that point
01:28.23slovenecbut i remember it, maybe froyo has it?
01:28.31Refugethe os runs from the sdcard
01:28.34Scrizzapps run slower on sd
01:28.38Refugeapps2sd would help
01:28.43Scrizzno
01:28.52Scrizzit's good for like the g1
01:29.01Scrizzand devices with low amount of rom
01:29.06Refugeoh
01:29.09sloveneci know
01:29.21slovenecNFS shift is 100mb apk
01:29.23slovenec:P
01:29.27RefugeScrizz is there any difference in the us version and the other hd2
01:29.41Scrizzyes
01:29.42slovenecnand
01:29.50slovenec=rom
01:29.50Refugei have a us version
01:29.53Scrizzeu hd2 512 rom
01:30.00Scrizzus hd2 1024 rom
01:30.02Scrizz:P
01:30.03Refugeso, we have more rom
01:30.15Scrizzwe(us) yes
01:30.20slovenecand coloured keypad ;)
01:30.21Refugei'm in the us
01:30.21Refuge:p
01:30.24slovenechaha
01:30.28Scrizzok then
01:30.29Refugecolored
01:30.29Refuge:p
01:30.35Scrizzsd card is slower than nand
01:30.47Scrizz1gb of rom is plenty
01:30.51Scrizzlolz
01:31.07Refugeyou from england
01:31.08Refugeuk
01:31.09Refuge:p
01:31.13RefugeScrizz
01:31.14Scrizzno
01:31.29Refugehmm... that's how uk spells color
01:31.32slovenecnot alot of britons here
01:31.42Refugelol scrizz is one
01:31.43Refuge:p
01:31.52Refugehe spells color colour
01:31.52Refuge:p
01:31.58Scrizzno look up
01:31.59sloveneccolour it is
01:32.02Scrizzu need glasses
01:32.12Scrizzit was slovenec
01:32.13Scrizz:P
01:32.21slovenecyep it was me
01:32.27slovenec;)
01:32.40RefugeScrizz it's my damn tab key sorry
01:32.41RefugeScrizz
01:33.12Refugeok booting up the new rom :p
01:33.17slovenecguys i'm leavin' ya... have fun!
01:33.18slovenecbye
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01:33.30Cassohh i just got root on terminal app :)
01:33.35Scrizzgj
01:33.40RefugeWHAT BUILD
01:33.41Refuge?
01:33.43Refugenice
01:33.43Cassany build
01:33.47Scrizzme want Cassipeian cookie
01:33.47Refugehow
01:33.48gauner1986cass: and how?
01:33.50Cassyou have adb ?
01:33.54Cass@refuge
01:33.55Refugeyep
01:34.05Cassadb shell in and do chmod 4755 /bin/su
01:34.12Cassthen in term app do su
01:34.13Cassid
01:34.14gauner1986ah
01:34.15gauner1986suid
01:34.15Cassshows root
01:34.16gauner1986:)
01:34.22Refugedoes it stick
01:34.26Cassit will do
01:34.36Casstry it
01:34.39Refugegsod on first boot damn
01:34.40Refuge:p
01:34.43Refugehold on
01:34.43Refuge:p
01:35.06Refugei thought that was fixed
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01:35.44Refugeyay
01:35.46Refugeit worked
01:35.54Refugenice man
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01:41.01Scrizzty Cass
01:41.19Refugeanyone have the download link for adb
01:41.21Refugei moved pcs
01:41.24Refugeand i dont have it handy
01:41.51Scrizzu mean android sdk
01:41.56CassScrizz, np fella
01:42.08Refugeyes
01:42.10Refugety cass
01:42.17Casshey np
01:42.18Refugethe one for hd2
01:42.21Scrizzrefuge: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
01:42.27Scrizz?
01:42.29Scrizzhd2?
01:42.35Refugelol
01:42.44Refugeare you guys using adb for windows?
01:42.49Refugethrough windows
01:42.49Scrizzi am
01:43.04Refugei'm wanting access to the android
01:43.34Casswell that link has ll os's
01:43.36Cassall
01:43.41Refugek
01:44.55Scrizzwell i dunno wwhat OS he' s using
01:44.59Scrizzso
01:45.07Scrizzhe can get whichever he needs
01:45.14Casswhat i wann know is where is the adb for solaris
01:45.37Cassgooglers put the hate on the finest os in the land
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01:46.10fakker;p
01:46.11Scrizzjaja
01:46.22Scrizzguess you have to make it yourself?
01:46.29Cassheh yeah
01:46.30Scrizzdo they even have sources for that?
01:46.33Scrizzlolz
01:46.45Cassan sdk for the sdk
01:46.58KhaytsusPeople still use slowlaris except for servers?
01:47.03Casspff puleez
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01:47.17Cassslowaris went out with s7 or 8
01:47.23Cassflies now
01:47.36Ondalfisn't Solaris non-free nowadays?
01:47.40Scrizzlol
01:47.45Scrizzawesome for 3d
01:47.46Casswell .. opensolaris is free
01:47.47Scrizzlolz
01:47.59Casssolaris is free as in beer
01:48.08Ondalfi've used solaris 8 and 9 on Sparc, nothing else
01:48.09Cassyou can download it .. just ignore the mail oracle sends yo now
01:48.37KhaytsusPeople still use solaris except for servers?
01:48.38Casss10 is sexy
01:48.44Cassyes .. its a fine os
01:48.47KhaytsusSince you're all huffy about "slowaris"
01:48.51Casshaha
01:49.01Casshuffy :)
01:49.12Ondalfthey removed U1 (sun4u) support from S10, so haven't tried...
01:49.16Cassi work for the slowlaris makers :P
01:49.24KhaytsusAh, that's why.
01:49.38Cassultra 1 support yeah went years ago
01:49.48KhaytsusThat's like a pepsi driver drinking a coke, you gotta use Solaris.
01:49.58Cassthats not really why tbh its just a good os
01:50.07Ondalfi still has Ultra1E with 2D card :P awesome that is
01:50.14Cassim using windows7, ubuntu, solaris and macosx
01:50.19Scrizzi like solaris too
01:50.24Scrizzbut
01:50.25Cassim no fanboy
01:50.32Scrizzi don't like ubuntu
01:50.32Ondalfah, and that supa-heavy 20" Sony-Trinitron (with sun markings)
01:50.39Scrizzfangirl then?
01:50.44Scrizzlol jk
01:50.54CassOndalf, lovely monitor :P used to have one on my desk
01:51.03Cassnow im all about the sunray
01:51.08Scrizzi have one in front of me now
01:51.11Scrizzlol
01:51.19Ondalfyea, does 1280x1024 @85 or was it 82Hz
01:51.26Scrizz85
01:51.26Cass85
01:51.29KhaytsusI hate trinitrons.. Damn lines get on my nerves
01:51.30Ondalfgot 2 of them
01:51.40Scrizzwhat lines
01:51.49Khaytsus...
01:51.50Ondalfthose lines are manageable, but that weight isn't :D
01:52.01Casscmon big boy
01:52.03Scrizztell me about the weight
01:52.33Ondalfhttp://bayareamonitors.com/sun_sony_20_tinitron.htm found it accidentally
01:52.36Scrizz1360x1024@85
01:52.54CassUsed SONY Trinitron Sun 20-inch monitor is ideal for demanding gamers and professionals alike
01:52.56Scrizzewww the sun one
01:52.56CassLOL
01:53.01Cassdemanding gamers
01:53.11Scrizzmines black
01:53.13Scrizzand
01:53.14Casslove the marketing speak
01:53.15Scrizzflat
01:53.18Scrizzhaha
01:53.25Ondalfbut i cannot see why there's gamers since its fixed sync monitor
01:53.34Ondalfiirc
01:53.50KhaytsusI'll keep my LaCie LCD's, thanks.
01:54.17Ondalfoh, it wasnt accroding: http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/sony/gdm20e20.html
01:54.40OndalfSO it should do 120Hz at 640x480
01:55.03Ondalfhow about little game of Counter-Strike beta 5.2 with Voodoo 2 graphics and win98? ;))
01:55.23Cassvoodoo
01:55.28Ondalfgotta blow dust from my K6-2 350MHz which still has those awesome hardware
01:55.39Cassk6
01:55.44Cassgawd your old
01:55.52Scrizzhaha
01:55.55Ondalfwell, i collect computers
01:56.04Cassi used to
01:56.06Ondalfthats like my fifth computer
01:56.07Refugei keep geting device now found
01:56.11Cassthey mostly are in the bin now
01:56.21Refugehmm
01:56.29Casswhat os Refuge ?
01:56.30Scrizz1600x1200@85
01:56.32Scrizzlolz
01:56.51OndalfCass: ye, i've threwn out 2x SparcStations and one useless Ultra. Still got one Ultra1E for kicks
01:57.00Scrizzlol
01:57.01Refugei'm in android i turn on debuging and get a connection sound then it disconnects
01:57.29CassOndalf, sparc 5 was my fave box
01:57.33Ondalfmost 386 and 486 i've threwn away, except one laptop (Toshiba T1000) and old computer system (Olivetti PG 24)
01:57.38Cassalmost cried when they took it off me
01:57.45Ondalfhmm, it wasn't PG, it was M24
01:57.47Cassi have a java station somewhere
01:57.54OndalfxD
01:57.57Cassm24
01:58.07Cassused to hate configuring those
01:58.20Refugecass does adb work in android?
01:58.25Cassyes
01:58.30Casswhat clisnet os are you on ?
01:58.32Cassclient
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01:58.34Refugewinxp
01:58.36Cassk
01:58.45Cassthen boot with usb in
01:58.57Ondalfhttp://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=535 <3 i got overlays for flight simulator for the keyboard and original boxes for it too :)
01:58.58Cassshould need nothing fancy on the client side
01:59.01Refugeso, reboot and boot android with usb already pluged in
01:59.06Cassyes
01:59.10Refugek
01:59.17Refugei got the adb shell to start
01:59.17Scrizzand then check device manager
01:59.20Refugethen it stoped working
01:59.35Scrizzhave u installed the device in device manager?
01:59.36Cassohh then whatver you are doing is good .. not sure why it stopped
01:59.48Refugeno
01:59.52Refugewhere can i get the drivers
01:59.59Scrizzit's in sdk folder
02:00.02Refugeoh
02:00.10Scrizzjust right click the Leo device
02:00.15Scrizzand hit update
02:00.26Scrizzand point it to the drivers folder in sdk
02:00.28Scrizz;)
02:00.37CassOndalf, i remember those overlays .. god good times :~)
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02:01.14Scrizzheh i gotta install opensolaris now
02:01.18ScrizzTY again Cass
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02:02.05Ondalf:) hahaha, i still remember i made valentine day cards with WP5.2 on DOS for our class xD with those lines (one line per row, or two lines per row). i drew house with flower with that ascii art and wrote "Happy Valentine's day"
02:02.06Casshaha Scrizz yvw
02:02.32CassOndalf, you must have really liked her
02:02.39Scrizzlol
02:02.44Ondalfher?! whole class :D
02:02.48Cassascii art is a dedication
02:03.01Casswell it must have had a destination :)
02:03.18Ondalfyea, i aimed straight to whole class' heart
02:03.18Cassohh you made whole class one
02:03.23Casshah misread that
02:03.28Refugewtf
02:03.31Refugeno drivers
02:03.33Cassi prefer my version :P
02:03.34Refugein the folder
02:03.51OndalfCass: yea, that would've been better...
02:03.53Cassthe whole class takes the fog from the story
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02:04.06Scrizzrefuge: C:\android-sdk-windows\usb_driver
02:04.19Ondalfwish i still had those papers somewhere T_T
02:04.26Scrizzrefuge: do you have the whole sdk installed?
02:04.28Refugei know there's no directory like that
02:04.37Refugeyea
02:04.48Scrizzreinstall ie then
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02:05.03Scrizzrefuge: yeah
02:05.14Cassie ?
02:05.25Scrizz*it
02:05.27Casslol
02:05.33ScrizzxD
02:05.39Scrizzlol
02:05.43Scrizzhe can do that too
02:05.44Scrizzlolz
02:05.49Cassthought you were going all isp call center on me there
02:05.55Scrizzlolz
02:05.59Scrizzhahaha
02:06.08Scrizzomg don't get me started on that
02:06.11Scrizzjaja
02:06.16ScrizzVerizon.....
02:06.19Scrizzlolz
02:06.30Ondalfoh, someone remember dot-matrix? sound they used to make? i had Panasonic XP-1124 and it was 24-dot printer. gosh it made noise when "I as 10yr old" decided to make nice car picture with little sky and printed it out to show parents. that printer screamed my paint-skills
02:06.46Casshaha
02:06.52Scrizzi don't have to remember
02:07.08Scrizzi work for some ppl who have a okidata
02:07.09Casshad a massive dot matrix in one of our buildings years ago .. noisy fucker it was
02:07.12Scrizz320 turbo
02:07.14Scrizzlol
02:07.48Ondalflol, that okidata looks clever one
02:07.55Scrizzhaha
02:08.12Ondalfbut only 9 pin ;)
02:08.30Ondalfmakes less noise than 24 pin
02:08.41Scrizzyeah
02:08.44Scrizzi can tell u that
02:08.46Scrizzlols
02:08.47Scrizzz
02:08.48Ondalfmy neighbour had some panasonic 9-pin
02:09.05Scrizz*had
02:09.06Scrizzlolz
02:09.12Scrizzb4 cops got called
02:09.13Ondalfit was like music to my ears when i printed some cheat codes for doom
02:10.04Cassdoom ..lol & quake .. the last games i could play with a kb
02:10.14Ondalf:D true
02:10.31Ondalfdoom was first games along Transport Tycoon that i played on LAN at my home
02:10.43Scrizzomg i miss quake
02:10.44Ondalfpacket drivers on DOS and games over IPX
02:10.45Scrizz:(
02:10.49Casswas never much into those building things
02:10.56Cassewww ipx
02:11.00Scrizzlolz
02:11.15Scrizzi remember starcraft with IPX
02:11.17Scrizzlolz
02:11.20OndalfNovell-Anthem 2000 compatible ethernet cards were good since there was drivers almost everywhere preinstalled
02:11.29Ondalfalso they were on win95 cdrom
02:11.50Casschanges channel to good old times where memories never fade
02:11.55Scrizzhaha
02:12.08Ondalfalso my first ethernet was driven over BNC, not rj-45...
02:12.10Refugeyippy
02:12.12Refugei got it
02:12.13Refuge:p
02:12.17Scrizzk
02:12.23Scrizzlol bnc
02:12.26Cassbnc was my fist networking equip
02:12.27Refugethanks man
02:12.27Refuge:p
02:12.33Ondalfi still got those T-parts, 50ohm terminators etc at safe place <3
02:12.34Refugebnc's are nice
02:12.35Cassfist time i saw it i was like wtf
02:12.44Scrizzlol
02:12.55Scrizzsame here cass
02:13.26ScrizzRefuge: u get adb up?
02:13.37Ondalfi wasn't that "wtf" actually since same cables were used for GSM-900 and NMT-450 networks at our camp in-the-middle-of-nowhere
02:13.38Refugewell
02:13.47Refugei'm in cmd.exe
02:13.57Refugecd'd to c:\android-sdk-windows
02:13.59Refugecd tools
02:14.01Scrizzk
02:14.05Refugeadb shell says device not found
02:14.08Refugebut the drivers are there
02:14.11Scrizzok
02:14.17Scrizzhave u installed it yet?
02:14.26Refugeinstalled what
02:14.27Refugelol
02:14.31CassOndalf, i had just been sent to a faraway land with a truck load of windows boxes and a box load of bnc and told to make em work in a lan for training
02:14.36Scrizzthen make sure u have usb in when booting android
02:14.43Refugeyea
02:14.46Cassi was like wtf
02:15.00Scrizzrefuge: installed the phone with adb drivers
02:15.14Refugeyea
02:15.18Refugei got the drivers to install
02:15.18Refuge:p
02:15.23Scrizzk
02:15.27Scrizzjust reboot phone
02:15.34Scrizzleave the usb plugged in
02:15.48CassOndalf, i believe it was a ring network
02:15.56Cassbnc had in and out ports
02:15.58Refugek
02:16.16OndalfCass: guess what would be nice addition into that? 3COM PCI cards with BNC connectors (3c590) and Windows Vista or 7. No support for 3com products xD
02:16.17Refugewhy does the backlight stay on
02:16.20Refugewith android
02:16.21Refuge?
02:17.07Ondalfmine wasn't tokenring. i actually threw out ~10 tokenring cards 2 weeks ago
02:17.07Cass3c509 sound familiar :)
02:17.07Ondalfit was 10baseT, not tokenring this time
02:17.20Ondalfyea, 3c5x9 was ISA version of 59x
02:17.26Casstokenring :) not heard that in years
02:17.39Scrizzomfg not ISA please
02:17.41Cassccna course may have been the last time
02:18.15CassISA .. gawd you on 386 man
02:18.52Ondalfat ISDN times i used old 386-hardware from local bank to run it as "server" on linux and shared internet over it
02:19.11Ondalfit was time when i got first rj-45 10mb 5-port hub
02:20.21Ondalftoo bad i'm just self-learned these things, and no actual Cisco papers even my knownledge is great enough. well, i'm trying into school of programming. they got Cisco classes there. got my degree then ;)
02:20.24Cassisdn is quite rare these days too .. 64k dedicated donchaknow :)
02:20.38Casspri and bri
02:20.54Cassmamories have faded with a lot of that stuff
02:21.00Ondalfbut good thing over modem was that 64k was always the speed when called
02:21.01Cassmemories even
02:21.07Scrizzi actually have a friend who runs Session 8 on his win 3.11 machine
02:21.08Cassit was indeed
02:21.21ScrizzISA scsi and all
02:21.44RefugeC:\android-sdk-windows>cd tools
02:21.45RefugeC:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb shell
02:21.45Refugeerror: device not found
02:21.45RefugeC:\android-sdk-windows\tools>
02:21.45Ondalfand also i made isdntools for linux to call another line when it ran over 10 minutes at full speed (over 7kb/s constant)
02:21.47Refugegerr
02:22.03CassScrizz, session8 ?  dec ?
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02:22.41OndalfSession reminds me about Creative Recording Session which had song called Sockshop.mid or sth like it
02:22.51Ondalfthat program came with certain SB16 packet
02:22.58Casssounblaster ..lol
02:23.00Ondalfi just had SB AWE32 ;)
02:23.27Scrizzlol session 8
02:23.40Ondalfbut it was some "lite" model. it just had those 3x different cdrom drive pins but no different SIMM slots for additional SFX memory
02:23.41Scrizzis precursur to protools
02:23.51Scrizzit still works
02:23.53Cassk
02:23.58Ondalf*SBF, sound banks
02:24.06Scrizzso "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
02:24.12Scrizzhaha
02:24.12Cassexaclty
02:24.26Scrizzactually the original machine died
02:24.30Casswindows 3.1 though
02:24.36Scrizzand had to find one with a isa slot
02:24.36Cassthat was broken out the box
02:24.46Scrizzyeah
02:24.56Scrizzbut for running session 8 it works fine
02:25.16Cassstart.bat
02:25.22Cassdone
02:25.37Scrizzhha
02:26.11Ondalfwin3.1 was awesome way to learn english for me... atleast i had to learn it in order to use computer
02:26.38Cassit was my first os at college .. they gave me a mouse and i was like wtf
02:26.47Cassi was used to kb
02:26.55Casshad been out of it for a while
02:27.05Ondalfour school had WfW3.11 and those were in finnish, so that didn't actually help :P
02:27.18Scrizzlol
02:27.27Ondalfumm, to be exact, WinME along with WinNT were first true OSses
02:27.39Ondalfother ran over DOS
02:27.47Casswell NT yeah .. ME .. not so much ;)
02:28.11Ondalfhaha, ME fais superior failure. Even i had to try, how it works. it worked 2 weeks and BOOM
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02:28.21Ondalf"Cannot find OS"
02:28.31Scrizzlol
02:28.35Scrizz<PROTECTED>
02:28.46Ondalfoh, fais as in was
02:28.54Scrizzppl that compared vista to ME have no idea what they were talking about
02:29.34Casswell both tried to be shiney
02:29.55Ondalfyeah. and i'm still happily using vista x64. i do not complain since it works perfect for my use. its not slow, not fast, but perfect. just enough power to run all my needs an thats it
02:30.58Cassall that matters realy
02:31.41NeoFluxCass: Battery charging needs fixing
02:31.44OndalfAND before someone tries me "have you used ubuntu? its awesome, you HAVE to install it" i can say, no thanks. i've used linux since 2000 :/ i know where it shines, where it fails and how hard it is to sometimes update single packet when packetmanager tolds "FU" :/
02:31.50Casswell chaps .. been good .. im off to bed now .. have fun !!
02:31.50NeoFluxCan't charge my phone :(
02:31.57CassNeoFlux, yes it does
02:32.00Ondalfnite, Cass :)
02:32.07NeoFluxnight Cass
02:32.12fakkerggood night
02:32.21Ondalfthanks for awesome memorial evening (or morning actually)
02:32.34Cassheh yeah its been real :)
02:32.38Cassnn
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02:35.14Refugethe drivers are installed i rebooted and still says no device gerr
02:35.18Refugeadb shell
02:35.19Refuge:p
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02:45.13Refugewhat was the command for root
02:45.16Refugeit's working now
02:45.32nineX_adb remount
02:45.35nineX_that cmd?
02:45.38Refugeno
02:45.40Refugefor root
02:48.01RefugeC:\>cd android-sdk-windows/tools
02:48.01RefugeC:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb shell
02:48.01Refuge#htc-linux chmod 4755 /bin/su
02:48.02Refugechmod 4755 /bin/su
02:48.02Refuge#htc-linux
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02:49.29cookiesownsAnyone having the same issue, of the cpu frequency is only at 768? Instead of the 998, or downclocking itself?
02:50.27Refugeit's been like that
02:50.43Refugeit scales
02:51.06cookiesownsIt's not scaling for me. Doesn't seem like a documented issue. I thought i just might add.
02:51.34Refugei think it's known
02:51.39Refugei just got root
02:51.43Refugei'm going ot try and over clock
02:51.44Refuge:p
02:57.08Refugehey
02:57.10Refugei just got mine
02:57.12Refugeto 998
02:57.15Refugeyippy
02:58.03cookiesownsHey.
02:58.08Refuge?
02:58.15Refugeit's working at 998
02:58.17cookiesownsAnyone know of the different between .ext2 and .sqsh?
02:58.17Refugefor me now
02:58.18Refuge:p
02:58.32cookiesownsSeems like darkstone changed the system file between V4 and V5
02:58.46darkstoneyes
02:58.49Refugehe released a new version today
02:59.01Refugedarkstone i overclocked my phone to 998
02:59.05Refugeit's running nice
02:59.10Refugegained root through adb
02:59.14darkstone:D
02:59.25darkstoneyou did su?
02:59.29Refugeyes
02:59.31darkstone:P
02:59.34Scrizzyes
02:59.39Scrizzrefuge is happy now
02:59.50darkstoneim going back to bed
02:59.55Refugelol
02:59.56darkstonenn
02:59.57Refugenn
03:00.48Refugewhat program tells the temp of the processor
03:00.51Refugebat
03:01.15cookiesownsrefuge teech me how to rootz da phone.
03:01.24Refugedo you ahve adb
03:01.36cookiesowns:( no.
03:01.39Refugelol
03:01.41Refugethen it won't wokr
03:01.43Refugework
03:01.43Refuge:p
03:01.54cookiesownsoh
03:01.58cookiesownsdon't tell me i need to run a WM
03:02.01cookiesownsthen use adb
03:02.03cookiesownsand bla bla bla
03:02.05cookiesownsVM*
03:02.10Scrizzno vm
03:02.12Scrizzhahaha
03:02.14ScrizzPWND!
03:02.16Refugeno
03:02.19Refugeit's in android
03:02.25Scrizz..
03:02.28Scrizzrefuge
03:02.34Scrizzadb is in sdk
03:02.35Refuge?
03:02.37Scrizzon pc
03:02.41cookiesownsAndroid Debug Bridge (adb) is a versatile tool lets you manage the state of an emulator instance or Android-powered device. It is a client-server program that includes three components:
03:02.43Refugeyes
03:03.04Scrizzget the sdk for windows
03:03.08cookiesownsThen..?
03:03.10cookiesownsk.
03:03.17Scrizzdo that first
03:03.21Scrizzthen we'll talk
03:03.52Scrizzlet's take this to #htc-linux-chat
03:03.55Scrizzhttp://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
03:12.08Refugethe maket it working faster
03:12.15Refugenow with the overclock
03:12.20Refugethe install process at least
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03:13.04Scrizz..
03:13.07Scrizzlet's take this to #htc-linux-chat
03:13.10Scrizzty
03:13.43Refugelol
03:13.45Refugeok boss
03:13.46Refuge:p
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04:26.54NRGZ28hello :)
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04:27.54Scrizzhello
04:27.58Scrizzwelcome
04:28.03Scrizzi love your roms
04:28.05Scrizz:P
04:28.25NRGZ28hehe
04:28.27NRGZ28thanks :)
04:28.44Scrizzhehe
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04:39.21NRGZ28hey darkstone when u see this..  msg me :)
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05:37.25chris5932NRGZ28, you try to hire darkstone? ;)
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05:59.00NRGZ28lol
05:59.02NRGZ28"hire"
05:59.10NRGZ28no...     nothing like that...
05:59.11NRGZ28lol
06:01.10Scrizzlol
06:01.33Scrizzi prefer NRG titanium roms
06:01.37Scrizzover anything
06:01.40Scrizzjajjajaj
06:01.45Scrizzhahaah
06:02.24hypersonicxfunny, went into a theater to watch a movie with phone on android... when movie was over... battery dead...
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06:03.48Scrizz?
06:03.55Scrizzwhat version were u using?
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06:59.05Art-Xmorning
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07:00.11Scrizz:P
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08:37.33Defiant-Using NRGs minimal wm rom with desire 4 now and it has proven stable since 9.00am yesterday
08:37.36Defiant-with perfect calls in and out and one charge
08:37.38Defiant-nice work
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08:46.43Art-XDefiant- also call end works well?
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09:23.37luxoidhi everyone!
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09:24.21luxoidI like to put Android OS to Rhodium GSM
09:24.28luxoidwith boot loader
09:24.38luxoidwhich version is the best to try?
09:24.53luxoidI saw a lot of updates and versions
09:25.15luxoidshall I use the latest (06.12.10)?
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09:25.53luxoidand what is CliffTrue version?
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09:28.46luxoidI see nobody like to help
09:29.07luxoidwell I guess I google it up better
09:29.09luxoidthanks anyway
09:29.14luxoidbye all
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09:29.30zozi_luxoid: go to #htc-linux-chat e ask there..
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09:34.13hunterkllKhaytsus: My E250R would like a word with you... ;)
09:35.37hunterkllScrizz: there was a 9 pin dot matrix okidata that used to be the company standard for mcdonalds. :D
09:37.50hunterkllalso....
09:38.07hunterkll*psst* I... have... a 100meg cat5 tokenring network... here ;)
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09:44.17Defiant-Art-X: yes all fine
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10:07.33lfcorreia= !fun!
10:07.52lfcorreiahi all, sorry 'bout that
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10:18.08tonz22hi..
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10:25.27iDavid1No more development for awhile ?
10:27.07Art-Xnot at the moment
10:29.01Art-Xbut it's not only Cotulla who's developing ofcourse
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10:36.01iDavid1Only him :?
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10:36.08iDavid1:P
10:36.29Khaytsushunterkll: er, a Sansa mp3 player?
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10:48.07danibjorhmmf.. Desire v5 (using recomended winmo rom and radio) giving me robotic voice on incomming calls.. on outgoing it's all fine. And volume in calls are really low :/
10:49.10danibjori'll try another radio and see if it's getting better
10:52.21Scrizzhahaha
10:52.26Scrizzeveryone is weak
10:52.30Scrizzi never sleep
10:52.36ScrizzI am THE  BOT
10:53.18DomZmsot of the android games that are using 3D are unplayable ;s
10:53.32Scrizzhahaha
10:53.36ScrizzI Win
10:53.57DomZthere is really something wrong our 3D driver
10:56.58Art-Xhas there been any work on the gps? looking at the source
10:59.00Scrizzgps doesn't work
10:59.10DomZI think he knows that lol
10:59.13Ondalfhmm, kernel .nbh for kaiser froyo build from kallt_kaffe has one "but" in it which i found after reading the file with iHex
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10:59.25iDavid1Not 3D driver, its the memory
10:59.47DomZhow you know that ?
10:59.52iDavid1we get 50 mb memory available on sense...
11:00.01DomZand ?
11:00.08DomZI don't use sense
11:00.09iDavid1So can you play asphalt 5 with such memory
11:00.36DomZhow much I need to play asphalt 5 ?
11:00.46iDavid1Ask god!
11:01.05iDavid1about these stuffs
11:01.11Art-Xyea, I was wondering if I could hack up the kaiser-gps to work for leo
11:01.24phhArt-X: you'd better start from raphael stuff
11:01.38phhwell the problem is that it's a bit cleaner than kaiser-gps.
11:01.47Art-Xphh: got a link for me?
11:02.20phhArt-X: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/libhardware_legacy
11:02.42Art-Xthank you
11:02.48phh(yes that's userland only stuff)
11:06.13Ondalfhey, what git kaiser uses?
11:06.24Ondalfi'm being blind today for some reason
11:06.24phhOndalf: linuxtogo
11:06.28Ondalfah, ty
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11:10.10Ondalfeh, now i'm a bit confused
11:11.02Ondalfsince this froyo kernel reports it to be 2.6.25 and last change into that tree was made 20 months ago
11:11.32Ondalfcould it be Vogue head that i'm looking for?
11:11.46Ondalfcorrect: it was that.
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11:13.27DomZok it's not a memory problem
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11:53.00Ondalfhm, according to http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/board-kaiser-battery.c;h=7e4495bdc125a3dc3d7b2ee749fdb9559ae421bb;hb=d5d0a56fae6df779443a82e2d90b7ec8097cb332 batterys mAh are hardcoded, am I correct?
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11:53.30Ondalfjust wondering since KAIS160 battery should have only 1350mAh... atleast so my battery says
11:54.02Ondalfthere's value 2700 hardcoded with #DEFINE
11:55.12Ondalfso i also assume passing kernel value for battery_capacity doesn't help much, since it always pulls value from hardcoded value and uses it as base for init and calculation
11:56.36ali1234it is not quite hard coded, you can set it through a module param
11:56.52ali1234see line 72
11:58.18ali1234also the battery status data includes a field containing maximum capacity but it isn't used, see line 147
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11:58.58Ondalfyep, that line 72 is initialized 2 lines before and it takes value from #define at line 65
11:59.12ali1234it's a module parameter, you know how that works?
11:59.20Ondalfactually, no ;)
11:59.58Ondalfmain thing i want to know, does it take parameters thru kernel bootstring?
12:00.05ali1234yes exactly
12:00.16ali1234you would put something like:
12:00.40Ondalfah. so thats it. testing with 1350 if it gives somehow correct results since my phone dies after giving 15% left
12:00.43ali1234ds2746_battery.battery_capacity=1350
12:02.55ali1234check page 2 of this: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf
12:03.52ali1234this only works if the module is compiled in to the kernel not as a separate module
12:04.09ali1234if it is separate then you must supply the parameter with modprobe when loading the module
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12:06.50KayJhi all
12:06.53KayJanyone around?
12:07.06KayJcan someone help a noob to replace the 40a2sd script file???
12:07.20KayJi tried ADB but i dont really now whats happening
12:08.28Ondalfali1234: hmm, the parameter from kernel is given with board-kaiser-battery.battery_capacity
12:09.14Ondalfguess its right atleast somehow...
12:09.23KayJi edited 40a2sd script and wanted to replace the file on my android but it doesnt work...
12:09.32KayJi want to move data/data to system/sd/data
12:09.38KayJran out of space
12:09.43KayJ..
12:10.18ali1234Ondalf: you should see it in /sys/module/ somewhere
12:10.31Ondalfhmm, i'll look into it
12:11.01ali1234you could also try to fix the code that autodetects battery, i dunno which it is disabled
12:11.07ali1234*why
12:11.24KayJhow do i replace the 40a2sd script in system/etc/init.d/ successfully?
12:11.33KayJi booted into recovery mode even...
12:11.35ali1234probably whoever wrote it only had one kind of battery and couldn't test it properly
12:12.00Ondalfthat could be... i got one almost died kaiser battery and not sure if it reports anything right
12:12.12OndalfWinMo might report it right with Batti or such tool...
12:14.08Ondalf/sys/modules/board_kaiser_battery/parameters/battery_capacity now says 1350, so i guess i kinda "fixed" it for now. let's see how it works - the formula for calculating how much is left that is...
12:21.51Ondalfali1234: without thinking and reading code, i assume that #if 0 --- #endif part at lines 148-163 is that auto-capacity thing which is disabled
12:22.05ali1234yes
12:22.12ali1234well, that's how it looks to me
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12:22.35Ondalfah, red logs. you said about it earlier
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12:27.48gauner1986heyho
12:28.47adiophhello gauner
12:30.16KayJstupid rom developers. why do they make the 40a2sd useless? ran out space already. seems like i cant edit that script because its overwritten by boot.img
12:30.33KayJtried to adb push the editted script but it doesnt seem to work...
12:31.02KayJcant move data/data to system/sd with that current script because the folder is moved back to phone memory...
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12:42.41tonz22can install new font on desire v5
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12:54.23antoszkaAny news of a possibility to flash the Leo from Linux (at least the radio)?
12:55.07phhthe radio would be the most annoying part.
12:55.59antoszkaWhichever. They're all RUU files.
12:56.15phhah right, I mess with another phone.
12:57.47Ondalfhmm, what sends aux0 and aux1 information into logs? just curious what those numbers are
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13:01.56Ondalfanswering to myself: its the same battery driver
13:04.38gauner1986apt: phh is a future leo owner and developer
13:04.38aptokay, gauner1986
13:04.42gauner1986:)
13:04.48phhgauner1986: uh ?
13:04.50phhyou offer me one ? :p
13:05.23gauner1986hmm.. maybe at the end of the year, when a more sexy phone comes out :P
13:05.32phhpfffff
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13:29.51Microangapt seen cotulla
13:29.53aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 17h 42m 29s ago, saying: 'thought about it'.
13:30.25NeoFlux_We need PM next!
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13:40.19MicroangHey everybody! I've just been to the O2 shop to see what all the fuss is about the iPhone 4's screen and apart from it's size I noticed a major floor that all 4 iPhone 4's had in the shop. Their screens had marks on them that looked like burns or pressure marks. Seeing that really made me very happy as not only do I have a bigger screen, I have a better one on my HD2, anyone wanting to look at what I mean look here: http://s872.p
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13:42.52fcnatest
13:44.23Ondalftest succeed!
13:47.58phhMicroang: not complete link.
13:49.41Microangphh: http://s872.photobucket.com/albums/ab289/microang/iPhone%204%20Bad%20Screen/
13:50.13Jack_Eweird
13:50.18phhMicroang: wow oO
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13:51.08phhMicroang: ah. that's because of their anti-theft security
13:51.09phhI'd gues
13:51.10phhs
13:51.48MicroangI don't think so there was a HD2 there and it didn't have a problem in the same holder
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13:52.23MicroangIt seems it's a manufacturing fault thanks to the glue they use on the glass XD
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13:52.47phhmy liquid does the same when I press heavily on it
13:52.50Microangbut the pressure marks in the middle I don't know
13:53.04phhit depends on how it deforms the phone
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13:54.29Microangnut the yellow spots are plainly glue residue! SO google says XD
13:54.59lucidan1j3l is working on a new build :)
13:57.14gauner1986isn't google always right?
13:57.33gauner1986as they know everything
14:00.33luciseen dan1j3l
14:01.03DomZ~seen dan1j3l
14:01.05aptdan1j3l <~dan1j3l@93-138-97-77.adsl.net.t-com.hr> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 16h 39m 18s ago, saying: 'DiscoLinux: no, it's not yet finished'.
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14:28.48gauner1986hey dcordes_
14:31.17dcordes_ali1234, DiscoLinux435, if you think clrcad.exe function should be added in haret, you should propose it on the haret devel mailing list at http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haret-devel . regardless of what exactly it does and source code situation.
14:31.31dcordes_gauner1986, hi
14:31.36ali1234i don't think that at all actually
14:31.48gauner1986why not?
14:31.50ali1234i highly suspect that whatever it does can be done in default.txt without modifying haret source
14:32.05gauner1986really?
14:32.36ali1234i can't be sure without knowing exactly what it does but haret can peek/poke and that is probably enough
14:33.18ali1234otoh if it links into wince dlls then that is a different matter
14:34.13gauner1986hm
14:34.16gauner1986don't think so
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14:35.11dcordes_DiscoLinux435, who runs hd2_android twitter? => "fakker".
14:35.16Art-Xdcordes, I don't see the mirror in the forum link?
14:36.02dcordes_gauner1986, so you are saying if it is some gpio that needs to be fired or something similar it should be added e.g. in the board init ?
14:36.15dcordes_Art-X, I didn't put it. closed my irc client and lost the link
14:36.24Art-Xahh :-)
14:36.28dcordes_Art-X, can you give provide it again please ?
14:36.34Art-Xleo.artworkx.nl
14:37.01dcordes_awesome. thanks
14:37.10Art-Xur welcome :-)
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14:38.21dcordes_Art-X, I will put the link in ubuntu and kernel section
14:38.42Art-Xdcordes: ok
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14:41.20dcordes_Art-X, done. thanks again
14:41.52dcordes_darkstone, GIT Repo |  HTC-Linux Wiki - (kernel source is located here) | Nyleveia | XDA-Developers
14:42.29ali1234so by the look of things, clrcad.exe opens CAD.DLL with LoadLibraryW and calls the function cad_dInit from it
14:42.35dcordes_darkstone, can you make it 'GIT Repo - kernel source is located here |  HTC-Linux Project | Nyleveia | XDA-Developers' ?
14:42.41dieselboyxi have flashed miri rom with 2.10.50.26 and have echo
14:42.50dieselboyxformatted sd also
14:42.53dcordes_ali1234, so it might be really good to put it in haret ?
14:43.13darkstonedcordes, sure, but im at work at the moment so i wont be able to update it until later on today
14:43.21ali1234meh, haret is for hardware stuff
14:43.28dcordes_darkstone, thanks
14:43.53dcordes_ali1234, we have the cpu init stuff in there already. don't see a problem
14:44.02ali1234it's calling microsoft code
14:44.06ali1234but up to you
14:44.09luci<PROTECTED>
14:44.11dcordes_ali1234, if you don't add it in haret, how else you wanna put it ? I think the need of an extra executable is bad
14:44.18dcordes_ali1234, ah that...
14:44.23ali1234haret can shell another exe can't it?
14:45.04dcordes_ali1234, no clue.. as I said it might be best to put it on the list
14:45.12ali1234this does something with device.exe too
14:45.27dcordes_ali1234, NetRipper Kevin2 & friends are always reading it so they might find quick fix
14:45.42ali1234this code should not be used at all really
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14:45.51ali1234instead there should be proper initialization code in the kernel
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14:46.11gauner1986hm
14:46.19gauner1986actually i was wrong
14:46.28gauner1986there is some dll involved with clrcad
14:46.41gauner1986cad.dll
14:47.00dcordes_<ali1234> so by the look of things, clrcad.exe opens CAD.DLL with LoadLibraryW and calls the function cad_dInit from it
14:47.09gauner1986ah
14:47.18gauner1986yeah
14:47.21gauner1986that's what i saw
14:47.22dcordes_ali1234, so it's something for mobile-linux-discuss list ^^
14:48.11NeoFlux_dcordes_: What's being worked on next do you know? :)
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14:58.04gauner1986good morning fakker
14:58.05gauner1986;)
14:58.15fakkergut morgen
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15:00.23Art-Xdcordes: has there been any attempt on the gps?
15:01.02dcordes_darkstone, what is that nyleveia thing by the way? it sounds like famous manufacturer of beauty product
15:01.25darkstonedcordes_: friends site :p
15:01.40darkstonehe wanted more visitors so im doing him a favor
15:01.53darkstoneim not suprised though, the name itself is tricky to remember
15:01.55darkstoneshrugs
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15:02.24dcordes_darkstone, lol
15:02.37dcordes_darkstone, he could change it to nivea
15:02.54darkstonehah
15:03.07Art-Xgrins
15:03.18dcordes_Art-X, it seems like Cass did what is proposed in the wiki. reading data from the gps device node.
15:03.30darkstoneim comparing the desire and my build
15:03.37darkstoneactually nice to see performance is pretty close
15:03.38darkstonehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfSxWNOG8DQ
15:04.01dcordes_darkstone, btw did you consider what I proposed about adding a release not in the 'builds' ?
15:04.29dcordes_s/not/note/
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15:05.40darkstonedcordes: i did, but i forgot to add a note last night
15:05.46darkstonei'll do it in my next build
15:07.28dcordes_darkstone, nice. this will be very useful for the consumers of all the different rars and zips
15:08.01darkstonebtw, did you set up the FB page?
15:08.15darkstonehtc-linux
15:08.18dcordes_darkstone, also it's good to have people understand what they get. you also put information on the included kernel ?
15:08.33dcordes_darkstone, I would look it up my self but I have very limited bandwidth
15:09.14darkstonebasically, there is no info with the builds at all
15:09.16darkstonejust the files
15:10.57rEDi`darkstone; reporting on your desire v5 build; very stable and excellent uptime now that charging is sorted... a couple of bugs though;
15:11.18rEDi`phone still occasionally has robot voice or call loopback so that a caller can hear themselves - only seems to be when they ring you
15:11.43rEDi`outbound is ok though
15:11.47dcordes_darkstone, now I'm puzzled since you said 'I did' above.
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15:12.19darkstoneoh
15:12.25darkstonei meant i did consider it
15:12.46darkstonebut i completely forgot about release notes
15:12.58darkstonei update the info on the download page though
15:14.34DomZalso I think that you could consider too, is to install your build into a custom sd card directory, like "Darkstone V5"
15:14.51DomZlike that we could have many android rom installed on SD card
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15:15.32darkstonethat is not hard
15:15.37DomZwe could have side by side Darkstone V5 and another froyo build for example
15:15.40darkstoneedit init file in rootfs
15:15.49darkstonei'll sort it out later
15:15.55DomZwith the text editor ?
15:15.57darkstonei need to return to work
15:15.59darkstonebye
15:16.02DomZok
15:16.43Art-Xdarkstone, about comparing your build and the desire.. I feel that in the end, leo and desire will perform the same.. and with some luck, since we don't have the optical trackball taking interrupts, maybe even faster
15:18.45gauner1986hm
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15:18.48gauner1986still no cotulla
15:18.50gauner1986:(
15:19.05NeoFlux_Where is our favourite Russian hacker? :(
15:20.01fakkeri paid him not to come back
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15:20.23Art-Xjob interview at B. Gates :p
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15:21.11NeoFlux_darkstone: how do you use adb?
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15:21.22NeoFlux_C:\Windows\system32>E:\tools\adb.exe shell
15:21.22NeoFlux_* daemon not running. starting it now *
15:21.22NeoFlux_* daemon started successfully *
15:21.23NeoFlux_error: device not found
15:21.35gauner1986install proper drivers
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15:22.05NeoFlux_usb drivers are installed according to the sdk
15:22.11veda_sticksyeh you need diff usb drivers to use adb
15:22.17veda_sticksoh
15:22.20gauner1986you need to install them in windows
15:22.25NeoFlux_oki
15:22.29Ondalfhow can total mAh of battery measure? i'm lost with Kaiser kernel battery drivers :S
15:23.00Ondalflol, failed at english :D how is total mAh measured within kernel? or how it should be calculated?
15:23.32Art-XNeoFlux_, did u update to V3 usb driverpack?
15:23.40Ondalfsince so far i haven't found one that calculates, automeasures or such thing in kaiser kernel
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15:24.07Ondalfi'm just total lost with DS2746 datasheets
15:24.37gauner1986ondalf: i'm sure cotulla can help you out on this one
15:24.40veda_sticksuckily NiMh and NiCds have fairly flat discharge curve. You could hook up a load, measure current and battery voltage. Due this fairly often so voltage does not vary much during the interval stopping when terminal voltage reaches end of charge specification (note that is not zero volts).
15:24.44veda_sticksSum all the intervals and you will know battery capacity.
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15:25.07Ondalfveda_sticks: meh, talking about Li-Ion - easy play stopped here :/
15:25.16Art-XNeoFlux_: http://developer.android.com/sdk/win-usb.html and for usage: http://forum.samdroid.net/f37/some-useful-adb-commands-121/
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15:26.43slovenecguys i figured out how to take a picture in htc camera without trackball
15:26.45Ondalfi just wonder this since my kernel shows battery status 100/100 for a long time even though its discharging for like 300mAh (from 4050mV to 3750mV) and voltage is part of formula used to calculate something
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15:26.57slovenecpress and hold on screen ;)
15:27.05Ondalfwhoa, not mAh but mV's
15:27.20Bladesquick question is adb working without connecting the phone to the comp prior to launching haret? i'm trying to get su so I can get that pesky 768mhz bumped up to the real deal
15:27.34slovenecnope
15:27.38slovenecit doesnt
15:27.53Bladesis that in response to me
15:27.56Ondalfquick question back: how it could? ;)
15:28.14slovenecwith proper driver or pluged on boot
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15:28.52Bladesso i need to boot back into wm... launch haret when activesync is connected?
15:28.57NeoFlux_slovenec: Already knew that ;)
15:29.05NeoFlux_But unfortunately the same doesn't work for video recording
15:29.36sowedneoflux try some aplication for the market
15:29.41slovenecyep sucks for video
15:29.52slovenecapps from market sux
15:29.56Bladesugh i forgot where you check the charge rate
15:30.04Bladesi wanted to see how much current this is drawing from usb
15:30.09sowedsomeones have a buton to do it
15:30.09slovenecBlades yes.. or into wall charger
15:30.29Bladeswall charger? serious? that doesn't even have data pins.. they are shorted
15:30.36Ondalfkernel shows messages
15:30.46NeoFlux_Art-X: When i plug in the phone, Windows doesn't detect a new device..
15:30.50Bladesand thats the only way?
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15:31.05OndalfBlades: not shorted (atleast htc ones) but open afaik
15:31.08Bladesi could've sworn i came across the current draw
15:31.16NeoFlux_I'm in the device manager and there is no devices that aren't installed and I can't find anything related to android or my phone also
15:31.18slovenecit works if you have it connected somehow on boot.. doesnt matter where
15:31.49Bladesthis might sound like a silly question.. but does it have to be supplied power
15:31.51Ondalfatleast kaiser shows current draw via kernel messages so its readable thru log. Batti program for WinMo shows it on screen
15:31.54NeoFlux_USB on my phone isn't working...
15:31.55Bladesor can i just heh... connect it
15:32.13Art-XNeoFlux_ have you restarted, and started the phone in android?, also, is USB debugging activated in android?
15:32.15OndalfBlades: usb from comp into phone?
15:32.28Ondalfi guess you can connect it without +5VDC
15:32.31NeoFlux_Art-X: Android is already booted, and I don't know the second bit
15:32.41NeoFlux_Art-X: I'm using Darkstone's V5 build
15:33.05Art-XNeoFlux_: pull down the top bar, it should tell you
15:33.16Bladesi'll try. that constant red led bugs me.. and.. the power supply (wall charger) intrigues me..
15:33.40NeoFlux_Art-X: Don't see anything about debugging
15:33.47slovenecdarky's builds dont have usb i think.. on dan's it worked
15:33.51Ondalfi prefer wall charger over usb, since 1A is better than 500mA from computers usb ;)
15:33.56veda_sticksdarkstones desire 5.7 downloading. gonna give it a shot. Just to check,
15:34.08sowedneoflux_ with Qik you can record video ;)
15:34.10Bladesmy tp2 pulls 1a thanks to modded battery driver
15:34.17slovenecwhy everyone think they are 5.7
15:34.26Blades928ma to be exact.. off of any usb port
15:34.27slovenecits .7z.. 7zip
15:34.31Bladesmy favorite is the cable box
15:34.32Art-XV5 has debugging I believe
15:34.44OndalfBlades: hmm, modified motherboard i assume, or usb-hub?
15:34.51veda_stickssorry v5
15:35.05Bladesnope.. stock mobo on a gateway laptop
15:35.10Bladeswhich of course could mean usb hub
15:35.22NeoFlux_darkstone: You there?
15:35.23Bladesinternal
15:36.11Bladesthe laptop has no trouble supplying this power.. and none so far have
15:36.20Bladeshttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716777
15:36.42Bladesi posted pics and whined about the hd2 not performing a similar trick
15:38.21NeoFlux_Art-X: USB debugging is turned on according to Android via Applications > Development menu
15:38.39slovenecblades, why you want to know-does it matter
15:38.52slovenecit's just charging, the faster the better
15:39.23Art-Xwhat do you see when you do "adb devices"
15:39.24Bladesdo i want to know what..
15:39.30Bladesyou guys are correct
15:39.31Ondalfawesome! just what i needed
15:39.36Ondalfgotta install winmo back
15:39.39Bladesplug in usb prior to launching haret
15:39.46OndalfTBattery i mean
15:40.14Bladesdoes not matter if battery charging is enabled
15:40.34Bladeswtf.. android just started playing 3oh3 without reason
15:40.42NeoFlux_Art-X: nothing
15:40.58NeoFlux_Art-X: Going to try something else, brb
15:41.32Art-XNeoFlux_: ok.. I gtg work is done :-)
15:41.36Art-Xbb all
15:41.40Bladesfyi when usb charging is turned off in winmo.. it is the same in android
15:42.27Bladeswhat driver is everyone using for adb
15:42.50Ondalf1000000x times more accurate readings in OS that machine is originally designed for
15:43.12Ondalfor i'm just fail using those arguments that battery driver tells
15:44.08NeoFlux_Art-X: bb :)
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15:45.52sloveneci wonder.. if chanfire could help with 3d drivers for ur HD2
15:45.58slovenecmake it faster
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15:46.29slovenecand he has sources so no decompile needed
15:46.49Ondalfand is it OS fault, that button says pressed even i don't do anything? i was writing something in shell, and soon one button remained as "pressed" state. keyboard driver dies and reboot only helps into situation
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15:52.13ali1234Ondalf: which buttons? the keyboard?
15:52.31Ondalfyes, the actual keyboard driver randomly fails at me
15:52.49ali1234kaiser has a simple matrix keypad
15:52.52Ondalfages ago someone told me to rewrite whole thing :P
15:52.59ali1234the code is kind of sucky
15:53.17ali1234there is a proper matrix keyboard scanner in newer kernels which you can use instead
15:53.23Ondalfyea, same as pxa270 uses. i got toshiba g900 as "second" device which has same type of keyboard
15:53.29Bladeswoohoo su was easy stuff. now i have 998mhz
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15:54.05ElBartoMEBlades: how did you do this?
15:54.39Ondalfali1234: what could cause deathloop and leave button in pressed state which ofc causes kernel repeater to endlessly print out that button which was pressed
15:55.16Bladesand now that i am at 998mhz. how to overclock further
15:55.27Bladesusb-adb..
15:55.33Bladesadb shell
15:55.34Ondalfno shifts or Fn's used when it stopped this time. button "a" was left pressed
15:55.40gauner1986blades: why would you want that?!
15:55.41ali1234Ondalf: on a matrix keypad it could be that one of the inputs is misused as an output, or it could be an irq problem
15:55.51ElBartoMEi have adb running. but how did you change the frequency?
15:55.53Bladesadb shell chmod 4755 /bin/su
15:55.55slovenecto burn his phone
15:56.09Bladeswell, its not upping the voltage
15:56.22gauner1986voltage control is not implemented in kernel
15:56.22sloveneclike 40°C isnt enough
15:56.25Ondalfali1234: other programs uses same irq? atleast pxa270 has multiplexer
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15:56.32Bladesi've had my '528mhz' tp2 to 800mhz stable
15:56.34Bladesheh
15:56.34ali1234Blades: that doesn't matter, higher clock = more heat
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15:56.45gauner1986yeah
15:56.49gauner1986and more power consumption
15:56.53ali1234it might be stable but you'll reduce the lifespan... meh, whatever, it's your phone :)
15:56.55gauner1986which really sucks for a mobile phone
15:57.20ali1234higher heat will reduce battery lifespan by cooking the battery too
15:57.46Bladesif the voltage remains the same.. how is that possible
15:58.02slovenecso the point is that there is no point to point our clock to point where it overheats right
15:58.05Ondalfwell, Li-Ion doesn't have temp sensors for "looks"
15:58.09ali1234Ondalf: not familiar with kaiser irqs, but probably not... but there is nothing to stop some other buggy driver from mucking up the irq config
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15:58.40ali1234Blades: same voltage, higher current draw?
15:59.06Bladesook.. my phone jsut randomly started playing music
15:59.07Bladesagain
15:59.21ElBartoMEBlades: what's the point of changing the attributes of /bin/su ?
15:59.36gauner1986elbartome: to make su accessible from terminal emu
15:59.49gauner1986or for other programs
15:59.50Ondalfali1234: i kinda guessed that :/ funny that it happens usually when i'm doing not-so-particular things so i cannot pinpoint what irq it could be
15:59.54ElBartoMEaahh allright
16:02.03Bladesi still don't get how overclocking without upping voltage is going to increase power draw
16:02.06Bladesbut thats kinda ot
16:02.38Ondalffaster rate of processing data? try with your computer
16:02.59Bladesi have my laptop undervolted
16:03.10Ondalfatleast without raising voltage my Q6600 doesn't stay as cool as default voltage, when raised 266MHz FSB up to 333MHz
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16:04.02Bladesare there varying degrees of "turbo mode"
16:04.23slovenechow do you mean
16:04.24slovenec?
16:04.25Bladesi think i am experiencing a slight speed increase.. just not in the way i wanted
16:04.38Bladesever boot up into android and everything is.. super fast
16:04.39Ondalfspeed your hand gets sweaty?
16:04.45Ondalfaaaa
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16:04.53gauner1986yay
16:04.54gauner1986cotulla
16:04.55gauner1986:)
16:04.56Bladeswell, this is like.. half of that speed incrase
16:04.57sloveneccotullaa!
16:05.08ali1234quite possibly, these arm cores have many possible clock rates
16:05.16slovenecyes it makes animations and all faster
16:05.32Cotullahey ppl
16:05.44Cotullanews?
16:05.50Bladesyeah, i've had that version.. but.. this is about.. half as fast.. but still faster than normal..
16:06.02ElBartoMECotulla: i made some battery logs. you want them?
16:06.08gauner1986cotulla: not really
16:06.19slovenecnothing worth to mention
16:06.19OndalfCotulla: you were the battery expert?
16:07.38slovenecBlades, it's a mistery how this happens, it just does as any "turbo"
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16:08.07Bladesok. so there is probably only one degree of turbo-mode.. not variations
16:08.20slovenecwho knows
16:08.26Bladesotherwise my clock would report the time 5 minutes faster by now
16:08.38slovenecnoone measures how fast it is
16:08.39DiscoLinux435turbo mode seems most common if winmo power management has done something (ie phone to/from sleep) since last reboot
16:08.55gauner1986also noticed that
16:09.05slovenecyes i know, try using "play" clock, it has secnds so you see how fast it is
16:09.24ElBartoMECotulla: here are the logs: http://pastebin.com/nUk4NVKS , the ACR levels: http://pastebin.com/ET5xxHRZ
16:09.26slovenecyep i wrote this like 4 days ago
16:09.46ElBartoMECotulla: the battery died for me at 6%
16:09.55Bladesnormal for green tearing during vid play?
16:10.11slovenecmhm
16:10.20slovenecit's also in layar
16:10.46slovenecit used to be when you turned screen off
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16:10.57CotullaElBartoME, so logs
16:10.59Cotulla(show
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16:11.06Bladesnot in rockplayer thus far
16:11.33ElBartoMECotulla: the links above
16:11.35Ondalfhmm, what git desire uses for kernel?
16:11.35luciWelcome ! <Cotulla>
16:11.41Cotullaoh ElBartoME, nice work!
16:11.56sloveneceveryithing's kinda buggy, there is a lot of work to makem all smooth
16:12.29ElBartoMECotulla: don't worry about the jump from -170mA to -320mA
16:12.46ElBartoMEi changed the backlight from minimum to maximum
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16:13.36Cotullaso it died at 6%?
16:13.45ElBartoMEyes
16:13.49Cotullanot bad
16:13.50ElBartoMEwith 77mAh
16:13.50NeoFlux_Cotulla: My battery died on me this morning @ 29%
16:14.13Cotullalgos?
16:14.32Ondalfis the dying point measured as millivolts? so when hardware shows certain mV -> forced shutdown?
16:14.34Bladesim at 33%.. how do i start logging
16:14.42Bladesand is there a flashlight/torch app
16:14.45NeoFlux_I was playing with the phone then it went off, so I thought I somehow crashed it, tried to boot up WinMo, got half way then the phone went out, then I swapped the battery out with my spare... the main battery was completely drained
16:14.51Bladesthat really drains
16:14.51NeoFlux_Cotulla: have none :/
16:15.09Cotullawhen u used WM?
16:15.21CotullaElBartoME, u use some filter for logs?
16:15.27ElBartoMEyes
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16:15.35Cotullanice
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16:15.53gauner1986cotulla: you can filter them via grep if there's a common word in the part you're interested in
16:15.54ElBartoMEdmesg |grep htcleo-battery
16:16.01ElBartoMEdmesg| grep ACR
16:16.04ElBartoMEthese two
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16:16.37Cotullabut it can't store full log right?
16:16.53Cotullathere about 128kb dmesg buffer?
16:17.02ElBartoMEright
16:17.08Cotullahow u solve it?
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16:17.32ElBartoMEi saved the logs into txt files and copy them all together to a big one
16:17.47Cotullaanyway nice work.
16:17.52ElBartoMEthx
16:17.56Cotullasome things now clear
16:18.08Bladeshow do you export logs into a text file
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16:18.30Cotullaany news with GPS?
16:18.39ElBartoMEdmesg |grep htcleo-battery > /filename.txt
16:18.43ElBartoMEfor example
16:18.46Cotullathere something in irc logs
16:18.47Bladesoh much easier with adb
16:18.56gauner1986cotulla: cass got something out of /dev/smd27
16:18.58ElBartoMEand then you can pull the file using adb
16:19.20gauner1986cotulla: but we guess it was just in some kind of buffer
16:19.28gauner1986cotulla: actually from winmo
16:19.31Blades[ 2351.350609] htcleo-battery 0-0026: batt:  28%, 3685 mV, -240 mA (-240 avg), 3
16:19.31Blades2.5 C, 354 mAh
16:19.36Bladescan you explain the parts of this
16:19.42veda_sticksdesire v5 working fine for me, using elegancia gtx rom and radio 2.12.50.2_2. touch.facebook.com works a treat, ahvnt tried any other sites yet. signed into google, but was unable to download any apps, which i knew would bne the case without wifi
16:19.44Bladesis 2351.350609 a value for time?
16:19.49ElBartoMEyes
16:19.53Ondalfsince boot as seconds
16:19.53CotullaACR value?
16:19.54gauner1986blades: the uptime
16:20.09Bladesok.. this should be easy to make nice in excel format
16:20.20ElBartoMEBlades: also use: dmesg |grep ACR > /filename2.txt
16:20.22luci<veda_sticks> Htc-linux-chat
16:20.23NeoFlux_We need battery charging fixed and PM
16:20.26ElBartoMEfor logging ACR values
16:20.30veda_stickswhoos sory wrong group
16:20.33NeoFlux_then I can use Android full time
16:20.54Bladesoh ah. thank you that works better than copy/paste
16:20.54Bladesheh
16:21.09Cotullaheh :) Ctrl+C Ctrl+V :D
16:21.20NeoFlux_Cotulla: what you working on atm?
16:21.30sloveneccotulla u have any plans for PM
16:21.41slovenecor you still work on magician
16:21.46ElBartoMEi used copy + paste for the last 10% xD because i was not sure when the system will die
16:21.59gauner1986:D
16:22.13Bladesis there an interval which it is writing to the file at?
16:22.27NeoFlux_Blades: no
16:22.33CotullaAlphine however
16:22.33NeoFlux_It will write when data comes through
16:22.58CotullaI won't tell u my plans, not sure about them...
16:23.06Bladeswhich seems to be every 50 seconds?
16:23.12Cotullamaybe look at charging
16:23.21slovenecok cotulla :D
16:23.22NeoFlux_whispers PM in Cotulla's ear ;)
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16:24.01ElBartoMEBlades: unfortunately it doesn't update itself. you have to type it again. of course you can write a script that it will save it in a defined intervall. but i was too lazy xD
16:24.06NeoFlux_PM is stopping people from using Android full time.. And battery charging not working properly is stopping people from using android because PM isn't working
16:24.36slovenecgood explanation NeoFlux xD
16:24.37Cotullais it bad?
16:24.38NeoFlux_Cotulla: Oh btw, When I was charging my phone by plugging it in before booting haret  The amber light was on, and the battery percentage was stuck @ 57% over night..
16:24.42Cotulla:D
16:25.14Cotullait doesn't matter which colors of led u have in android
16:25.21NeoFlux_I got a message @ around 11am, so I unplugged my phone and left it, woke up after 2pm and I was playing with the phone when it died @ 29%
16:25.22Cotullathey are saved in same state from WM
16:25.34luciand after removing charger the light stays on
16:25.40slovenecyes
16:25.41Cotullaand?
16:25.43slovenecno leds work
16:25.49Cotullanothing wrong here...
16:25.50slovenecyet
16:25.53slovenec;)
16:25.54Cotullaled doesn't change status
16:25.58Bladesyeah.. so is the usb charging.. if thats turned off in winmo.. its turned off in android
16:26.00luciyes
16:26.11NeoFlux_Cotulla: I'm wondering.. if battery was still discharging when android thought it was charging?
16:26.16NeoFlux_Even with the amber light on..
16:26.28Cotullait's known to be bugyy
16:26.40Cotullabrrr..NeoFlux forgot about leds
16:26.41darkstonegamesquare is down
16:26.46darkstonehost got pissed :P
16:26.50darkstonewill fix this asap
16:26.52NeoFlux_So when it was stuck @ 57%, it was still discharging until I unplugged it, and somehow android thought the battery was @ 29% when in fact the battery was dead
16:26.56Cotullaoh
16:26.56Bladesnah. amber light doesn't mean anything.. you can start haret with a text message blinking green light.. and that will stick with you thru android
16:26.59gauner1986darkstone: too much traffic? xD
16:27.04darkstone10tb
16:27.07gauner1986n1
16:27.11CotullaI thought it was hacked by iPhone hackerzzz
16:27.15slovenecsweet darky:D
16:27.15darkstonei guess unlimited doesnt mean unlimited anymore :P
16:27.29Cotullahow much used now?
16:27.36slovenecRussian hacker hacked :O
16:27.39ElBartoME:D
16:27.55Cotulladarkstone not russian hacker seems :)
16:28.06Cotulla~seen Parad0XUA
16:28.09aptparad0xua <~paradoxua@rrcs-69-193-179-210.nyc.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 1d 18h 7m 12s ago, saying: 'as far as I understand it's an interface channel between arm9 and arm11'.
16:28.20NRGZ28hey darkstone ..  get on MSN
16:28.20Bladesi wonder if comcast will beef about that
16:28.21NRGZ28:P
16:28.29Cotullahm where lights
16:28.45gauner1986at the end of the tunnel :)
16:28.53slovenechahaha :D
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16:29.14Bladesfrigging comcast is 'experiencing difficulties with ftp". so much for a mirror
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16:30.51sloveneceveryone seem to be experiencing difficulties with android on HD2 builds :P
16:31.54dominicanhi all, I have issues with TP2 - Android
16:31.56luci<darkstone> big batt. drain
16:31.59luciv5
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16:32.16Cotullaluci, #htc-linux-chat?
16:32.30dcordes_dominican, shoot
16:32.33dcordes_Cotulla, hi
16:32.36Cotullahey :)
16:33.00dominicanIt is not vibrating, even I set it
16:33.19dcordes_Cotulla, spent some time with medico engineering ? :)
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16:33.30dominicanI remember with old versions I had the vibrating on
16:33.43dcordes_dominican, where is the version you are using ?
16:33.57Cotulladcordes, hm?
16:34.37dominicanI got this cab file:
16:34.41dominicanhttp://reefermattness.scepterr.info/ProjectAndroid2.2BLAZN.071610.cab
16:34.48ElBartoMEchanging the speed from 768mhz to 998 mhz actually makes the system noticeable faster
16:34.56dcordes_Cotulla, didn't see you in a while and was wondering if you put some time into university
16:35.09dcordes_ElBartoME, on hd2?
16:35.29NeoFlux_ElBartoME: how did you do that?
16:35.35ElBartoMEyes, but let me test something
16:35.43ElBartoMEmaybe it's just the placebo effect xD
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16:35.44dcordes_dominican, hmm there is no information on the version ?
16:35.58BigDaDDyheya brothers in liunx :P
16:36.01Cotullaheh no university now
16:36.02gauner1986benchmarking
16:36.03gauner1986:P
16:36.05dcordes_ElBartoME, in ubuntu such clock difference is noticeable
16:36.06Cotullaup to 1 sept
16:36.17dominicanAndroid v2.2 Froyo: 767MHz Overclock // Auto Memory Manager // ClockSync // Blacked Out Theme // Bloatware Removed // LaunchPro Home // 2D Gallery for Rhod // Start Menu Shortcut // WM Start-up Utility w/ Update Tool
16:36.19gauner1986cotulla: so you gotta finish leo before 1 sept xD
16:36.31dcordes_dominican, ok where that taken from ?
16:36.40ElBartoMEis there a cpu benchmark app for android?
16:36.46dcordes_Cotulla, nice. enjoy
16:36.46NeoFlux_ElBartoME: Neocore
16:36.48dominicanfrom here: http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads
16:37.05NeoFlux_dcordes_: how do you change clock freq?
16:37.06dcordes_dominican, haha project android.
16:37.11ElBartoMEi'm using neocore right now.
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16:37.21ElBartoMEahh, there is a difference
16:37.23dcordes_NeoFlux_, you write to some file in sysfs while the userspace governor's set.
16:37.24NeoFlux_ElBartoME: I get 24.9 with 768
16:37.28ElBartoME768 -> 24.7fps
16:37.33ElBartoME998 -> 25.5fps
16:37.37NeoFlux_lol
16:37.39ElBartoME384 -> 19.2fps
16:37.41Cotullaare anythere clear 2.2 android for nexus?
16:37.43DomZlol
16:37.57Cotullatry 254.7 Mhz
16:37.59NeoFlux_dcordes_: fair enough
16:38.09dominicanyeah
16:38.15ElBartoMEi can try 245mhz
16:38.49dcordes_Cotulla, why not compile it from source ?
16:38.50sowedIf Cotulla finish before 1 sept, will have a cold beer and a paella if he wants to come to valencia for holydays :D
16:39.33Cotulladcordes, compile what?
16:39.50gauner1986guess android
16:39.51gauner1986:)
16:39.59Cotullabecause I won't do it
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16:40.12ElBartoME245 -> 13.8fps
16:40.14gauner1986cotulla: i guess dan's build is pretty clean
16:40.17Cotullasomebody may do it before me
16:40.39dcordes_Cotulla, ok. I will produce clean scratch build android for nexus for you.
16:40.56Cotullaok nice
16:41.37ElBartoMEi'm curious of ondemand scaling works
16:41.37dcordes_bbiab
16:41.41ElBartoME*if
16:41.46Cotullaok I booted my ubuntu
16:41.48Cotulla^_^
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16:41.59dcordes_ElBartoME, it does. just try it
16:42.20gauner1986elbartome: which benchmarking app do you use?
16:42.30ElBartoMEneocore
16:42.35Cotulladcordes, why u sure?
16:42.37dcordes_ElBartoME, 'echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor'
16:42.46ElBartoMEk
16:43.01dcordes_Cotulla, because you can see the cpu frequency switching while in ondemand
16:43.09dcordes_Cotulla, i.e. you can read it form sysfs
16:43.16dcordes_need to switch links
16:43.53ElBartoME[ 2137.253898] acpuclk_set_vdd_level 1050 no regulator
16:43.58ElBartoMEwhat does that mean?
16:44.11gauner1986voltage setting not working?
16:44.31ElBartoMEhm
16:44.58eugenbCotulla how hot is it in russia? / where u live ^^
16:46.14ElBartoMEi wonder how the frequency will change the power consumption
16:46.28ElBartoMEgonna restart and disable usb charging
16:46.55ElBartoMEnvm
16:46.57ElBartoMEfreeze
16:47.03Cotulla?
16:47.29ElBartoMEwhen using setcpu i get more freezes than normal
16:47.47CotullaI am not sure if it's woring\
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16:48.15ElBartoMEyes, it seems that voltage setting is not working
16:48.22Cotullait's not working
16:48.29CotullaI about freq change
16:48.32Cotullaauto freq change
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16:48.49ElBartoMEit works if you install setcpu
16:48.59ElBartoMEthe application itself will change the frequency
16:49.07ElBartoMEbut i get a lot of freezes
16:49.10Cotullano
16:49.14CotullaI about autochange
16:49.21ElBartoMEok
16:49.26Cotullawill test it now
16:49.28gauner1986cotulla: linux kernel has some integrated freq change algorithm
16:49.30Bladeswhat
16:49.42Bladesi have had success with this business
16:49.43Bladesheh
16:49.46Cotullabut I guess it's not working
16:50.20Bladesare you guys trying to up cpu voltage
16:50.23Bladesthat i haven't
16:51.19Bladeselbartome.. you have gotten freezes with setcpu?
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16:51.24ElBartoMEyes
16:51.36Bladesunder autodetect... select performance mode
16:51.46ElBartoMEautoscale
16:51.49gauner1986elbartome: have you had a look at ramconsole afterwards?
16:51.56Bladeswhat is your min/max set at
16:52.05ElBartoMEif you tell me how ;) don't know how to access it
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16:53.30gauner1986boot winmo, connect activesync, start haret, press listen for network connection, connect to 169.254.2.1 port 9999 via telnet
16:53.33gauner1986and type
16:53.38gauner1986~leo-ramconsole
16:53.39apti heard leo-ramconsole is pwf myramconsole 0x2FFC0000 0x40000
16:53.43gauner1986what apt says
16:53.46ElBartoMEk
16:54.20ElBartoMEdo i need another haret version if it just starts booting instead of showing the button for listening?
16:54.21gauner1986and most important
16:54.26gauner1986do not pull your battery out
16:54.30ElBartoMEi know
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16:54.52gauner1986no
16:54.59gauner1986then you just have to change your default.xt
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16:55.11gauner1986there must be a line in it for autobooting
16:55.13gauner1986take it out
16:55.16ElBartoMEk
16:55.16ElBartoMEthx
16:57.17OndalfCotulla: how are main battery resistances etc measured in kaisers kernel? atleast according to TBattery information on WinMo i receive totally different values that i can read from logs, or this thing just goes far out
16:58.06Ondalf*logs on froyo based android kernel on kaiser
16:58.42Bladeshttp://home.comcast.net/~edward.savides/test2.html is this what you all are looking for as far as battery logs
16:59.02Ondalfalso is there particular reason linux to draw 50mA more on idle than linux? its probably just backlight...
17:00.16darkstoneJohn: [10:57:16 AM] We currently estimate 15 to 45 minutes for the investigation, but we don't know for the completion yet.
17:00.16darkstone[10:57:37 AM] the site will be up after we have reviewed your changes--just let us know then
17:00.22dcordesCotulla: you can use 'watch -n 1 cat /proc/cpuinfo'
17:01.00Cotullabattery resistances?
17:01.07gauner1986no
17:01.11Cotullawhy it meansured where?
17:01.11gauner1986cpu information
17:01.13gauner1986like speed
17:01.45Cotulladarkstone, limit is out?
17:01.47Cotulla:(
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17:02.19darkstoneprobably an hour till gamesquare returns
17:02.21OndalfCotulla: i mean ADC, ARC, ACR etc... i'm interested why i cannot get FULL (mAh) under linux
17:02.38darkstoneCotulla: they didnt like the traffic xD
17:02.40CotullaFULL?
17:02.43darkstonei'll upload to megaupload
17:02.48Cotullaoh
17:02.51gauner1986i like traffic
17:02.51gauner1986:D
17:02.53Cotullaepic fail :'(
17:02.59ElBartoMEi wonder why i have to reinstall neocore on every reboot
17:03.28DomZbecause it's a useless tool
17:03.30DomZ:)
17:03.44OndalfCotulla: how to measure or read values when your battery pack is full loaded, and how much mAh is it when its full
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17:03.58DomZso android auto-uninstall it
17:04.17Ondalfon WinMo those are easily readable values, i'm just curious if i can help with it since i somekinda build huge interest for it xD
17:04.53darkstoneif i posted link to torrented version of the builds, would everyone here be ok with that?
17:05.09slovenecwhy not?
17:05.13darkstonejust until i sort out host issues
17:05.18Cotullau need discharge battery with high current
17:05.20slovenecif not everyone just leeches
17:05.20DomZOndalf: full mAh should be 1350 on kaier
17:05.34Ondalfyes, mine reads 1380 atm
17:05.54DomZweill your at max I think
17:05.55Ondalfand default kernel (without manual passing correct value) now passes 2700
17:06.19OndalfDomZ: no, it doesn't actually read anywhere when using linux. cannot get info about mAh anywhere
17:06.38Ondalfnow using TBattery on WinMo and getting values from there
17:06.58Ondalfi'm just wondering, how the formulas for calculating value works
17:07.12Ondalfor actually - how it should work
17:07.15Cotullait can be calculated
17:07.19Cotulla*can't
17:07.34Cotullaor u about stored value?
17:07.41Cotullathere may exist OCC
17:07.43Ondalfso its roughly estimated under windows too?
17:07.46Cotullain battery date
17:07.49Cotulla*data
17:08.29dcordesdarkstone, with great power comes great responsibility. you are in charge of the most popular place for ready to use android on hd2 archives. many people around htc-linux are putting big efforts to keep people informed about what they are using and where the source code to it is available. I am asking you to sustain that detailed information flow and do not embody a dead end.
17:09.02Cotulladcordes, propaganda? :)
17:09.19gauner1986:D
17:09.44slovenecdarkstone should make torrents
17:09.56slovenecso we can also contribute
17:10.00slovenecwith upload
17:10.05slovenecand better speeds
17:10.11DomZtorrents + MU + RS + ...
17:10.35slovenec....private server?
17:10.37slovenec:P
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17:11.14slovenecand he should get ads back on site
17:11.27DomZhey there is also vbnfiles
17:11.34DiscoLinux435ask not what your dcordes can do for you, ask what you can do for your dcordes
17:11.35DomZa lot of winmo cookers use that
17:11.48slovenecyes, but they are slow
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17:12.03slovenecmaybe write sanjeev a pm
17:12.12slovenecand see
17:13.02Cotulladcordes, ppl should be informed? disagree. Testers (high experienced users) should be informed, they can really help to project, but all other ppl are make problems actually. (like ppl appear here and ask "hey, anything neeeew?" "when u finsih it" and etc) Lets developers to develop peacefully!
17:13.03OndalfCotulla: is that mAh with full battery estimated in any cases or requires calibration? (since i thought that calibration wasn't for OS but that chip itself)
17:13.22gauner1986lol
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17:13.26gauner1986poor noobs
17:13.27gauner1986:)
17:13.32sloveneccotulla ur right :P
17:13.37CotullaI seriously.
17:13.37NRGZ28Cotulla: when that happens
17:13.42NRGZ28have an Operator kick ban them
17:13.43sloveneci have a black screen!
17:13.48NRGZ28trust me.. it feels good
17:13.49NRGZ28:P
17:14.14Cotullayeah, calibration should be....
17:14.39Cotullabut it's not easy things... u want to know real capacity or OCC?
17:15.03Ondalfi just wonder, how getting max capacity can be implemented?
17:15.12Ondalfthat updates from time to time
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17:17.35Cotullareal capacity or OCC?
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17:18.44Ondalfdefine: OCC
17:18.51sloveneccotula u mean Orange County Choppers ? :P :P
17:18.59slovenechaha
17:19.05Ondalfah, that was it ;))
17:19.14CotullaOriginal Cell Capacity
17:19.20dcordesCotulla: I am getting your point. but it is wrong to put files without any information.
17:19.41Cotullait's wrong to _get_ files without any information
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17:20.21gauner1986hey dan
17:20.22gauner1986:)
17:20.25slovenecdan, hi
17:20.28dan1j3lhi
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17:20.52DomZhi daniel
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17:21.11dan1j3lwhat's up, any news, or should i read logs ?
17:21.18gauner1986not really
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17:21.25gauner1986nothing to read so far
17:21.45dan1j3lok, then back to work :D
17:21.47DomZthe only good news it that Cotulla and dcordes are there :)
17:21.51gauner1986cotulla's working on battery, hopefully :)
17:21.52slovenecdan r u workin on froyo?
17:22.11strollerdan1j3l: will you do also a sense-less version?
17:22.16dan1j3lyes, im on froyo with sense
17:22.24sloveneccute
17:22.34slovenecworth anything?
17:22.35Cotullaare u still using xdandroid rootfs?
17:22.35gauner1986dan1j3l: what about the bugs? full-screen-3d possible?
17:22.45dan1j3lstroller: yes
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17:22.53strollerohh, great, thanks
17:23.10dan1j3lCotulla: no, im using my own rootfs, xdandroid are too buggy
17:23.36Cotullaheh +1
17:23.39dan1j3lgauner1986: 3d working ok, full screen too :)
17:23.44gauner1986that's nice
17:23.49gauner1986so we have a replacement for 2.1
17:23.50gauner1986:)
17:23.52ElBartoMEgreat
17:23.56dan1j3lnow i have problems with fm and camera
17:24.13gauner1986what's up with that?
17:24.46Major_SarcasmLooking at stroller's little sense-less pun; has anyone else noticed that you can read HTC Sense as "HT See Sense"? Or have I been remarkably obtuse in not noticing that before?
17:24.46dan1j3lcamera does not show preview, blank screen, but everything works
17:24.56Major_Sarcasmshuts up again
17:25.04DomZthere were no fm radio app in your previous froyo build, where did you get this one ?
17:25.22slovenecsense
17:25.25slovenecxD
17:25.26dan1j3land with fm problem while turning fm on,
17:25.34Cotulladan1j3l, logs?
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17:25.49OndalfMajor_Sarcasm: when you process more that: hates T see - Phones
17:25.51dan1j3lCotulla: i will post logs later
17:26.03Major_Sarcasmheh
17:26.17dan1j3li think there is permissions problem
17:27.07dan1j3lnow time to gather camera logs :)
17:27.31DomZdan1j3l: does your next build still runs on a custom directory in the sd card ?
17:27.47dan1j3lDomZ: yes
17:27.51DomZcool thanks
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17:28.09slovenecall builds should
17:28.14DomZyeap
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17:28.49dan1j3lDomZ: this way it's much more cleaner
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17:29.20DomZyes and we can have more than one android rom installed in the sd card
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17:29.50dan1j3lDomZ: that's the main point of my builds :D
17:30.01slovenecdan1j3l how about performance
17:30.01DomZ:)
17:30.14slovenecwith sense
17:30.22slovenecbetter than .1
17:30.24slovenec?
17:30.40tuxxieI have a little over 100 16Gb flash drives unopened... Anyone interedted?
17:30.51darkstonehttp://kimoshi.net/dan1j3l-LeoFroyo-1.0.zip.torrent
17:30.51darkstonehttp://kimoshi.net/desirebuild_v5.7z.torrent
17:30.51darkstonehttp://kimoshi.net/hd2-ubuntu_0.1.zip.torrent
17:30.51darkstonehttp://kimoshi.net/Parad0XUA_Experimental.7z.torrent
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17:31.03gauner1986hi letama
17:31.09slovenecdarkstone sweet:P
17:31.13dan1j3lwell sense slows down complete system, but that's the price we must pay if we want sense :p
17:31.17darkstoneplease seed
17:31.18LeTamahi gauner1986, hi all
17:31.29DomZI think all roms should have sense, because it's only a matter of 3/4 clicks for disabling sense on android start
17:31.31darkstoneplease post on xda
17:31.40DomZhi LeTama
17:31.48rEDi`domz; yes but you get the htc keyboard which is dire
17:32.58DomZah ... no option to choose the standard one ?
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17:33.17rEDi`nope
17:33.20rEDi`just the htc keyb
17:33.29DomZoki :s
17:33.36DomZI dislike the htc keyword too
17:33.36rEDi`apparantly there is a swype keyb available? googling for it now
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17:33.54DomZkeyboard*
17:34.10rEDi`bingo: http://www.androidcentral.com/download-beta-version-swype-android
17:34.23slovenecdarkstone, posted on XDA
17:34.28dan1j3lok, FM is just fine :D
17:34.35gauner1986what was the problem?
17:34.35DomZcool
17:34.41DomZpermissions ?
17:34.52dan1j3lbluetooth stack
17:35.08gauner1986still a funny idea to control fm via bluetooth
17:35.12gauner1986:)
17:35.38Cotullait never was funny
17:35.43Cotullajust HCI interface
17:35.51dan1j3l5 problems out of 10 are solved :d
17:35.59luci<PROTECTED>
17:35.59gauner1986reminds me of some low budget pc's sold by medion or so.. which had a pci card containing tv chip AND modem
17:36.00gauner1986:P
17:36.41DomZhehe I got one like that, I buy it on aldi :)
17:36.47gauner1986yeah
17:36.49gauner1986:D
17:36.57slovenecdo you buy computers i Hofer xD
17:37.02slovenecin*
17:37.02DomZwas pretty happy with it
17:37.11gauner1986nah
17:37.15gauner1986i assemble mine myself
17:37.18Cotulladan1j3l, is it hangs later still?
17:37.26slovenecme too
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17:37.36gauner1986and they're usually better in price than any aldi pc
17:37.39BigDaDDydan1j3l: are you working on a new build?
17:37.44dan1j3lCotulla: no, it's ok after solving bt
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17:37.54DomZthe last one is assembled by myself too :)
17:37.55dan1j3lCotulla: more tests later
17:38.13gauner1986diy is best you can get :)
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17:38.29slovenecbig bang for low buck
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17:38.55DomZANTEC P183, Core i7 850, RAM 6GB, ENORMOUS NOCTUA FAN :p
17:38.55gauner1986cotulla: couldn't reproduce the hang problem yesterday anymore
17:39.07gauner1986i also have an antec :)
17:39.14gauner1986and noctua fan
17:39.19gauner1986and core i7
17:39.23DomZlol
17:39.25gauner1986920 though
17:39.29dan1j3lCotulla: interested in camera log ?  http://pastebin.com/nMarZgcw
17:39.37DomZah so Core i9
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17:39.43gauner1986nah
17:39.44gauner1986i7
17:39.48slovenecgigabyte+q9300+9800gt two years old setup and still works as charm
17:39.58gauner1986gigabyte x58 ud3r
17:40.07gauner1986+gtx 480
17:40.08gauner1986:P
17:40.17DomZgigabyte UD4P for me
17:40.18BigDaDDydan1j3l: is your new build gonna be Sense only?
17:40.19slovenecsweet
17:40.37dan1j3lBigDaDDy: i think not.
17:40.50dan1j3lBigDaDDy: but we'll see
17:40.51CotullaW/CameraSwitch(  840): no file - can't switch camera
17:40.52Cotulla?
17:40.54BigDaDDygreat... coze your current build without sense is great
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17:41.12antoszkaWhoever hosted this site: http://gamesquare.co.uk/desire.html ← looks hosed rather than hosted to me.
17:41.14gauner1986dan1j3l: did you try the mknod command?
17:41.29dan1j3lyes, there are nods form camera
17:41.32Cotullais it HTC or Android camera/
17:41.34Cotulla?
17:41.35NeoFlux_dan1j3l: When you uploading a new build?
17:41.43dan1j3land permissions are ok
17:41.59eugenbWhen Its Done!
17:42.00dan1j3lNeoFlux_: when i solve all problems
17:42.06NeoFlux_dan1j3l: fair enough :)
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17:42.12slovenecdon't push him ;)
17:42.30NeoFlux_pushes slovenec
17:42.30dan1j3l:p
17:42.31NeoFlux_:P
17:42.41slovenec:P
17:42.46darkstonethanks guys
17:43.28dieselboyxdan1j3l, will video camera be working?
17:43.32dan1j3lfor this build i will take time, because probably will be my last one, at least froyo :D
17:43.39dieselboyx:O
17:43.41slovenecdarkstone, guys over xda are complaining about speed :P
17:43.42DomZlol
17:43.54darkstonespeed of rom or download?
17:43.54slovenecdan1j3l why?
17:44.00dieselboyxyeah why
17:44.02slovenecdownload
17:44.03DomZyou want to build gingerbread for the next one ?
17:44.07gauner1986too much real life in here :D
17:44.15dan1j3lslovenec: no more challenge :p
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17:44.26slovenecheheh
17:44.36slovenectry rooting
17:44.39slovenec;)
17:44.48gauner1986or leo pm
17:44.49gauner1986:P
17:44.59gauner1986if you want the real challenge
17:45.04DomZahah dan1j3l, I think there is a lot of challenge on Android 3.0 :d
17:45.13NeoFlux_dan1j3l: Please keep the froyo builds coming until at least more rom cookers come on board :(
17:45.20dan1j3lDomZ: cant wait :D
17:45.30DomZ:D
17:45.46sloveneci wonder what will they bring in 3.0
17:45.48dan1j3lok, no more off-topic
17:46.05slovenecshit this isnt -chat :S
17:46.22ElBartoMEi'm gonna seed desirebuild_v5
17:46.43gauner1986some filehoster mirror's also would be nice
17:47.04slovenecfilefront?
17:47.14lucidesire v5 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FXY0M5DL
17:47.19gauner1986vote for netload.in
17:47.25dan1j3lcotulla: which nodes are MUST BE for camera, because this rootfs works just fine with n1 system
17:47.45hypersonicxthere a new build out today?
17:47.54Cotullamsm_camera
17:47.57Cotullathere config control
17:48.01Cotullawait
17:48.22Cotulla# cd msm_camera
17:48.22Cotullacd msm_camera
17:48.23Cotulla# ls
17:48.23Cotullals
17:48.23Cotulla?[1;35mconfig0?[0m   ?[1;35mcontrol0?[0m  ?[1;35mframe0?[0m
17:48.27dan1j3lconfig0, control0, frame0
17:48.34gauner1986... /dev/msm_camera && mknod /dev/msm_camera/control0 c 250 0 && mknod /dev/msm_camera/config0 c 250 1 && mknod /dev/msm_camera/frame0 c 250
17:49.00Cotullaso is it HTC
17:49.03Cotullaor Android camera?
17:49.24dan1j3lhtc
17:49.28dan1j3li think
17:49.49Cotullamaybe it need more files
17:49.52Cotullalike backgrounds\
17:49.54Cotullaand etc?
17:50.05dan1j3lhmm... maybe
17:50.16dan1j3lok, time for more logs
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17:57.34slovenecgotta go bye
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18:07.04dan1j3lwatching Kamelot - The haunting in HQ on froyo :D
18:07.11gauner1986:D
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18:09.21HADI2hello
18:09.25dan1j3li think there is no audio sync problem like on ce
18:09.32HADI2apt seen darkstone
18:09.37aptdarkstone is currently on #htc-linux (1d 49m 42s). Has said a total of 87 messages. Is idling for 25m 43s, last said: 'speed of rom or download?'.
18:09.48phhyou already have hardware decoding working ?
18:10.02gauner1986how to tell that?
18:10.08gauner1986hq videos play fluidly
18:10.09phhwell, if video playback works.
18:10.10gauner1986:P
18:10.14phhdamn.
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18:10.19phhhate HD2.
18:10.23dan1j3lhehe... HQ :D
18:10.23gauner1986lol
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18:12.03zonerphh, why not buy a HD2 ^^
18:12.08phhzoner: €€€€€€€€€€
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18:12.12gauner1986apt: phh
18:12.13aptfrom memory, phh is a future leo owner and developer
18:12.16zonersave some
18:12.19phhapt: .
18:12.19apt.
18:12.29phhzoner: for HD2 ? I can't see why I would :p
18:12.43gauner1986hw decoding works
18:12.43zonercan'T see why?_???
18:12.44gauner1986:D
18:12.45phhit's not far from my current liquid in specs
18:12.46zonershocked
18:12.49phhgauner1986: liquid too -_-'
18:12.54gauner1986yeah
18:12.56gauner1986:D
18:13.06phhmy next smartphone will be a qsd8650a I think
18:13.07dan1j3lnow, only things to solve are camera and tethering
18:13.11phhor qsd8672
18:13.21phhdan1j3l: lol what ?
18:13.23phhtethering doesn't work
18:13.24phh?
18:13.35zoner.with what?
18:13.44phhyou've pretty much everything working, but not tethering ?
18:13.45phhimpressive.
18:14.01NeoFlux_phh: You need to get an HD2 :D
18:14.03NeoFlux_Brilliant phone :D
18:14.03zoneryeah there must be a problem with tethering
18:14.10gauner1986nah
18:14.13gauner1986power management
18:14.15zonercuz, i couldnt get adhoc get work
18:14.19gauner1986doesnt work
18:14.22zonerget adhoc work
18:14.26phhzoner: just set softap ? :p
18:14.30gauner1986that makes it unusable for everyday use
18:14.32gauner1986:)
18:14.49zonerphh, you mean?
18:15.01phhzoner: there is a softap mode in the bcm4329 driver
18:15.10NeoFlux_gauner1986: PM wouldn't be so bad if we had working battery charging ;)
18:15.28gauner1986part of it
18:15.28gauner1986yes
18:16.08HardDisk_WPoi
18:16.09zonernvm me, kinda noob
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18:18.34dan1j3lhmm there is still problem with mtu
18:18.34dcordesdan1j3l: you talking about the rmnet ?
18:18.34gauner1986dan1j3l:  you know about the mtu-fux?
18:18.34gauner1986s/fux/fix/
18:18.34dan1j3ldcordes: yes
18:18.38gauner1986apt lags
18:18.39dan1j3lmtu on 500
18:18.44dcordesdan1j3l: like Cotulla I think we should try ppp
18:18.45gauner1986i use 700
18:18.56dcordesphh: did you ever try rmnet on diamond and firends ?
18:19.02dan1j3ldcordes: ok, thnx
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18:20.09dan1j3lcompass is kinda funy :D
18:20.32dcordesdan1j3l: do you know how mechanism of reading compass data works ?
18:21.09dan1j3ldcordes: no, didn't investigate that, but it seams i should
18:22.56dcordesdan1j3l: I am wondering if it is obfuscated data transport that depends on android lib or normal accessible via proc
18:23.00Cotullajust there no calibration
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18:23.05Cotullaeven for GSensor
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18:23.11dcordesCotulla: do you have the answer ?
18:23.55dan1j3lshows offset of 40 degrees
18:24.01Cotullaanswer to what?
18:24.43iDavidCotulla
18:24.57NeoFlux_compass needs calibrating in a number '8' type pattern
18:24.58iDavidIs it so hot in Moscow ?
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18:26.34phhdcordes: no
18:26.40phhdcordes: cr2 told me to use ppp, I don't tried anything else :p
18:26.59gauner1986what protocol does rmnet use?
18:27.15dcordesphh: we have a (buggy) support for rmnet in htcleo. htcleo has wince amss...
18:27.29phhdcordes: I know
18:28.11phhgauner1986: rmnet is the name of the protocol I believe
18:28.16dcordesphh: I am wondering if it is possible to repair the current problems we face with that setup. it is related to package size
18:28.25phhdcordes: uh ?
18:28.28phhwhat problems do we have ?
18:28.34phhwait, HD2 problems ?
18:28.41gauner1986:D
18:28.52phhok it's a you I guess.
18:28.53dcordesphh: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=dccd2c065e29be821df935db76a6e3734637d5af
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18:29.02HardDisk_WPcalibrating the gsensor should be easy
18:29.09HardDisk_WPit's described in the BMA150 data sheet
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18:29.24phhHardDisk_WP: don't you access gsensor through microp ?
18:29.38HardDisk_WPit's not directly via I2C?
18:29.45phhthat's what I'm asking.
18:29.49darkstonesite is back
18:29.52HardDisk_WP<-- no idea
18:29.53darkstonelinks replaces with torrents
18:29.53phhnewer devices use microp
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18:30.00phhwhich would mean no calibration needed :p
18:30.14Cotullaphh WTF?
18:30.20phhCotulla: not leo ?
18:30.53Cotullamicrop doesn't mean that u don't need calibration
18:30.59phhCotulla: true
18:31.07phhstill I'm pretty sure they did the calibration in factory
18:31.16Cotullacalibration on nand
18:31.20phhah.
18:31.26Cotullaeven in desire also
18:31.28HardDisk_WP... which isn't readable
18:31.35gauner1986phh: why can you then calibrate g-sensor in winmo?
18:31.44phhgauner1986: ah.
18:31.44phhokay.
18:31.45dcordesphh: maybe you can try it on msm7xxxA-wince
18:31.52phhthey didn't do the obvious thing to do.
18:31.57HardDisk_WPgauner1986, the question is: do you need to do everything you're able to?
18:32.14phhdcordes: no thanks, I prefer ppp, and I don't want to mess with this thing I barely understand
18:32.15gauner1986if it's boring... YES
18:32.16gauner1986:D
18:32.50dcordesphh: ok
18:33.25dcordesphh: can you point my to commit that adds ppp in msm7xxxA-wince tree ?
18:33.37phhdcordes: it wasn't really added
18:33.43phhdcordes: it's a standard /dev/smdXX device
18:33.46phhon which we run ppp
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18:35.55dcordesphh: are you telling me trout has ppp ?
18:36.00phhdcordes: no
18:36.13phhdcordes: but trout has an emulation of serial port over shared memory
18:36.20dcordesphh: why would trout kernel add /dev/smd1 with ppp ?
18:36.20phhthat's the one we use
18:36.30dcordesit still needs patching
18:36.37phhit just needs to add the smd1 device
18:36.45dcordeswhere's the patch ?
18:37.26phhI can't find it (really verbose log.), but basically, in smd_tty.c, in smd_tty_init, at the end, add:
18:37.32phh<PROTECTED>
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18:37.43phhtheorically the 27 one is already there
18:37.46phhthe 0 too actually
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18:38.40Cotullaanyone have leo carcit?
18:38.44dcordesphh: we get quiote some
18:38.45phhcommit id= 57f8b6c754c93c4614377fd281baef68bc1ea215
18:38.51dcordesphh: thanks.
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18:44.12mil132_is there something specific that you need to do in order to get charging to work?
18:44.30gauner1986yeah.. finish the battery driver implementation
18:44.44phh(or start when charging)
18:45.17Cotullamaybe he talk about HTC Wallaby?  :)
18:45.40phhunlikely.
18:46.13mil132_hd2
18:46.24gauner1986:)
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18:50.09dan1j3lARM9 has crashed :D
18:50.18phhthat is weird.
18:50.27gauner1986how do you tell it's arm9?
18:50.27gauner1986:)
18:50.36dan1j3lBY
18:50.37phhgauner1986: it's in dmesg ? :p
18:50.41dan1j3llogs
18:50.43dan1j3l:D
18:50.45gauner1986really?
18:50.46gauner1986:P
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18:52.41dcordesphh: this looks too simple
18:52.42dcordes:)
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18:53.11phhdcordes: % grep "ARM9 has crashed" -rFi arch/arm/mach-msm
18:53.11phharch/arm/mach-msm/smd.c:        pr_err("ARM9 has CRASHED\n");
18:53.14phhanything else ? :p
18:54.37Cotulladan1j3l, how u did that?
18:55.14dan1j3lCotulla: enable GPS in ce and start android
18:55.20Cotullaheh
18:55.24Cotullanot bad\
18:55.25gauner1986:D
18:55.34dan1j3lbtw. gps enabled via compass
18:55.37gauner1986how do you enable gps?
18:55.47phhyour A9 seems more stable than our.
18:55.48Cotullaoh
18:55.58phhwe have a lot of ways to crash A9
18:55.58Cotullaour A9 is better than urs
18:56.01dan1j3lcompass with gps reading
18:56.10gauner1986hm
18:56.54Cotullau have reason of crash?
18:57.06Cotullau can add debug
18:57.08Cotullato SMD layers
18:57.14Cotullaso see when it crashes
18:57.22CotullaI guess some RPC call
18:57.27dan1j3lok
18:57.31gauner1986ah
18:57.38gauner1986that's where rpc is used for
18:57.46DiscoLinux435A little off-topic, but whats a good free tool for backing up winmo settings?
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18:57.54gauner1986spbbackup
18:57.56dcordesphh: need to check if the commit will work
18:58.03dcordesphh: we have like 20 smd devices already
18:58.12phhdcordes: oO
18:58.54dcordesphh: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/smd_tty.c;h=8715544dfdc167c5e4615bf810f7d8762cb8006b;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32
18:59.23phhdcordes: I can see only two oO
18:59.31phhand it seems you have a different smd_tty.c than us
18:59.40Cotullahe about non /dev/
19:00.08CotullaI guess
19:00.17phh?
19:02.33Cotullanot about smd devs in /dev/]\]
19:02.40Cotullaabout channels
19:03.20phhah you have 20 smd channels
19:03.21phhok
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19:06.15gauner1986dan1j3l: when's your froyo rom finished? :)
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19:08.00dan1j3lgauner1986: when it's done :p
19:08.05dan1j3l:d
19:08.44dan1j3lanyone knows where can i find android source for desire ?
19:09.12Cotullakrnl/
19:09.13Cotulla?
19:09.22strollerFYI: when launching Haret got this message: "Trampoline physical/virtual addresses overlap."
19:09.25dan1j3lno, android source
19:09.39dan1j3li already got kernel source
19:09.53phhdan1j3l: not available
19:10.04lucihttp://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/bravo_54b7033a.tar.gz
19:10.10lucidesire
19:10.10phhyeah that's kernel.
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19:10.47dan1j3lhmm, damn, i need to take a look in libcamera
19:11.07darkstonedan1j3l
19:11.08darkstone:D
19:11.09darkstonehi
19:11.14phhdan1j3l: ah you too ?
19:11.16darkstonehow goes the froyo sense port?
19:11.18dan1j3lhi
19:11.35dan1j3ldarkstone: ok, only camera left
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19:11.56darkstonedan1j3l ncie
19:11.57darkstonenice*
19:12.02dan1j3lit seams froyo uses newer lib versions
19:12.14Scrizznice
19:12.19dan1j3lwith different camera controll
19:13.04darkstonedan1j3l: how did you solve tethering/usb mass storage?
19:13.25Scrizzc6fdebe3
19:13.26dan1j3li feel that camera will be "party-breaker" for now..
19:14.20dan1j3ldidn't test that fully, camera is No. 1 priority
19:14.25dan1j3lfor now
19:14.51Scrizzs/6/8
19:14.53Scrizz?
19:15.27Scrizz~seen darkstone
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19:17.47dan1j3lafter playing a while with sense i must say it's pretty responsive and fluid
19:17.57Major_SarcasmJeepers; Dan's on a mission
19:18.25dan1j3lmission to conquer camera :D
19:18.47gauner1986dan1j3l: then you could also find out how to enable 5mp mode
19:18.48gauner1986:P
19:18.53Scrizz:D
19:19.35Major_Sarcasmapt: dan1j3l
19:19.36aptrumour has it, dan1j3l is on a mission
19:19.42Major_Sarcasmarf
19:19.45phh-_-'
19:20.09dan1j3l:P
19:20.14Scrizz<PROTECTED>
19:20.20phhScrizz:  ?
19:20.28Scrizzphh?
19:20.38Scrizz?
19:20.42phhwhy oO ?
19:20.43Scrizzhello
19:20.48Scrizzb/c of u
19:20.57phhOo
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19:25.27dan1j3lit's dinner time ! :d bbl
19:26.02Scrizzbb
19:26.05Scrizzgimme some
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19:35.29[acl]wow another hd2 holiday? this is odd
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19:36.59Ondalfgrr, i hate power chips now. there's no straight way to calculate anything and those are hard to describe how one works
19:38.01Ondalfalso i wonder if kaiser returns correct values since those are static for me :S
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19:39.05iDavidSuspend is working ?
19:40.01iDavidacl: Do you understand that Cotulla cant script in a weather like in africa
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19:40.30iDavid:/ its like 30*c right now
19:40.35iDavidthere
19:40.43iDavidAm i right Cotulla ?
19:40.44iDavid:D
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19:41.06Ondalfhere is 16.5C
19:41.09Ondalfand rains
19:41.17iDavidThats in your country
19:41.19Cotullain battery?
19:41.24iDavidNope
19:41.26iDavidin russia
19:41.46Cotullaomg
19:41.52iDavidYeah? or ...
19:42.00Scrizzit's 36 here
19:42.01iDavidI saw it on the news...
19:42.02Scrizz:(
19:42.16Ondalfand it rains snow in Chile ;) i wanna there
19:42.26iDavidIts 25 in Kiev
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19:43.54OndalfCotulla: i guess you've played with TBattery on WinMo? how is battery charge percentage calculated there since it constantly changes unlike kaiser on linux. those reg values doesn't change over time
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19:44.34[acl]iDavid: we have killer heat wave here in NYC too.. power outages trying to handle everyones air-conditioning
19:45.11dan1j3lmount -o loop system.ext2 /mnt4
19:45.18dan1j3low, wrong window
19:45.20Ondalfeven in finland we had +28C here last week, now rain came and air is better. si nycg ciiker :)
19:45.27Ondalf*so much cooler
19:45.39CotullaFuel Gauging/
19:45.45NeoFluxWe have thunder and lightening here atm! :D
19:45.47Cotullamaybe
19:45.53CotullaDS2746?
19:46.07Ondalftomorrow we got thunder - so forecast says
19:46.13Cotulla#htc-linux-weather :)
19:46.33OndalfCotulla: i've been trying to figure out that from datasheet - even from evaluation kits datasheet
19:46.54Cotullathere no information
19:46.57huggy_72_whit cpu OC app, set to min on on screen off i have lost  6 c on BT on 30 sec
19:46.58Cotullaactually it's
19:47.19OndalfCotulla: so its conspiracy like automatic transmission repairs :/
19:47.28CotullaRAAC = (ACR - AEL) / (FL - AEL)
19:47.37iDavidsuspend is working anyway ?
19:47.52huggy_72_min freq i meant
19:48.14Ondalfis that max current calculated per minute and converted into hours or how its made?
19:48.17huggy_72_not real PM but working for now
19:48.30Cotullawhich max?
19:48.51Ondalfoh, that real cell capacity
19:49.05Cotullareal... it's become with time less and less than OCC
19:49.11Cotullait cause problems with percentage
19:49.15Ondalfyes thats true
19:49.19Ondalfbut now my problem is reversed
19:49.24Cotulla?
19:49.33Cotullau need OCC?
19:49.40Ondalfphone is like 15% off. it stays 100 too long and shuts down after 15% shows first time
19:50.39Ondalfdoes programs for android calculate that OCC?
19:50.45Cotullamaybe AEL is too small....
19:50.50Cotullano
19:50.58Cotullait's only driver
19:51.00Cotullastuffs
19:51.01Ondalfso its totally kernel side thing
19:51.16CotullaOCC is hardcoded or can be stored inside battery
19:51.26NeoFluxCotulla: So he is having the same problems with me when the phone said it had 29% left but then it died?
19:51.55Cotulladunno
19:51.56OndalfACR is mAh left on phone?
19:52.00iDavidFor me while charging
19:52.03iDavidthat happens
19:52.16Ondalfatleast so it seems on TBattery
19:52.30iDavidIt says 87% and then the phone turns off
19:52.32CotullaACT have own metrics, but can be converted to mAh
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19:53.31Ondalfand i'm bit confused also why i got 3 almost same percents and one value in percent (KADC) that is 4% off from "mainline"
19:53.34Cotullafuck vi again
19:53.40huggy_72_for me battery show exact % of WM and died on 0%
19:53.42Scrizzyes ty cotulla
19:53.49OndalfCotulla: :q!
19:54.03Cotullawhere u found KADC?
19:54.10OndalfTBattery
19:54.15Cotullawhat is it?
19:54.38Ondalfsoftware came with HD2 debug bundle
19:54.50Ondalfment for WinMo
19:55.24Ondalfhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716777 has picture from values it can tell
19:55.30Ondalflast post
19:55.44Cotullau have leo?
19:55.50Ondalfbut values that are reported are more accurate on kaiser. no over 100% in any case
19:55.53Ondalfno, kaiser
19:56.10Dr`RyderLol
19:56.16Cotullahm...
19:56.30Ondalffor that picture, all but MS and PA percentages are 10x from right value
19:56.46CotullaMS?
19:56.50CotullaPA?
19:56.52Ondalfdon't ask. no idea
19:57.02dan1j3largh... froyo is just sense-less bast***
19:57.03Ondalfthose are values that windows use for showing battery
19:57.19Cotullamake screnshot?
19:57.29Ondalfhaven't seen that MS and PA are different
19:57.32NeoFluxdan1j3l: ?
19:57.43Ondalftell me soft that can be used to screencap
19:57.58Alastairslaps dan1j3l around a bit with a large trout
19:58.00Alastair:3
19:58.19Alastairdid you really get tethering up 'n' going?
19:58.34Cotullaleo still use msm72k_udc.c?
19:58.35dan1j3lNeoFlux: got irritated with some libs
19:59.48OndalfCotulla: is it okay if i tell you values that i see?
20:00.23Dr`Ryder(> NetSplit detected <) - (>Servers: *.net / *.split <)
20:01.11CotullaDr`Ryder are u human?
20:01.18Dr`RyderYes.
20:01.29CotullaWhy u output this "(> NetSplit detected <) - (>Servers: *.net / *.split <)"?
20:01.37Dr`RyderBecause a netsplit just happened.
20:01.45Cotullaoh ok
20:01.48Dr`RyderIt's an amsg.
20:01.50Ondalfleet scriptpack
20:01.56Dr`Ryder...Yeah. I made it.
20:01.57CotullaOndalf, better to see
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20:20.27OndalfCotulla: finished, finally! http://personal.inet.fi/cool/ondalf/CapScr0001.png
20:20.44Ondalfgrr i hate that procedure i went thru for that picture :|
20:21.23phhputting the phone in a super freezer at < 50K, take out the screen component, and read its memory back ?
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20:22.13phhhum no, normal people would love that, not hate.
20:22.58phh(we should do that on a retina display right after a death of an iphone4 since the retina is said to remember what it saw before its death)
20:26.02[acl]thats probbaly the weirdest thing i heard you say..
20:26.11[acl]and i read alot of logs :-p
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20:30.17NRGZ28Cotulla.. if you want.. I can get a screenshot of tbattery running on my Leo
20:32.13Cotullais it 1380?
20:32.33Ondalfno calibration done yet, so not sure
20:32.48CotullaKADC is % based on voltage
20:32.49Ondalfi now charge it fully and let it burn battery with full backlight
20:33.12Ondalfhmm, and probably with wifi, gps and BT on :P
20:34.38Ondalfi got battery bought at february, so it should be in pretty good shape, but we'll see
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21:01.47MNany news on power managemet
21:01.54MN*mangagement
21:02.45phh[acl]: thanks :)
21:03.58Ondalfteaching how different power managers work overall
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21:05.18fakker:(
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21:11.30Ondalfhttp://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=3586 that has good base for Atmel chips, maybe some parts could be used... too bad it gives too much information for at-chip compared to kaiser chip
21:12.20[acl]phh: its not the funniest thing youve said tho... the bear fucker was my fav till today
21:12.26phhbah.
21:12.33Ondalfhmm, offset is set when current is zero...
21:12.57phh[acl]: btw, you know all the wifi stuff we did for TP2 ? :p
21:13.01phhI had to redo the same
21:13.03phh**but**
21:13.10phhit didn't seem to work
21:13.24phhbecause on android (I love android.) insmod xxx.ko aaa=bbb ccc=ddd
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21:13.30phhonly sends aaa=bbb to the module
21:14.47phhI lost dozens on hours because of this stupid thing.
21:15.20[acl]phh: wait .. do the same for who ?
21:15.29phhacer liquid
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21:16.09[acl]phh: ahhh .. ic
21:16.13phh(they use crappily modded bcm4325 driver which needs changed libh_l, which is annoying to me
21:17.26[acl]phh: when u gonna come back and solve all this irq issue for me :-)
21:17.37phhwhen I'll get an idea about it ? :p
21:17.56phh[acl]: little brainstorming about it
21:18.08phhhow could we decide which IRQs we receive, which we don't ?
21:18.49[acl]hmm .. dont know. lol. i did find in the kernel where all of it gets enabled tho
21:19.13[acl]useless since im not exactly sure what happens
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21:19.50[acl]i was successfully able to turn off grp on winmo. Now if i cold only get haret to run right after.. it would make a good experiment
21:20.26[acl]clk_regime_msm_enable / disable do a nice job of it
21:23.54Cotullawhat's up?
21:24.05phh[acl]: ok
21:24.06[acl]phh: also i wonder if disabling the irq before haret loads will help.
21:24.08phhand in linux ?
21:26.04Ondalfoff i got. need some sleep
21:26.07Ondalf*go
21:26.30Ondalf24h feels -.- cannot concentrate
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21:26.45NRGZ28hey Cotulla...  did darkstone talk to you about PM and battery in his desire builds ?
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21:31.04[acl]phh: havent tried in linux.. thats what i need to try..
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21:32.01[acl]phh: can i get haret to load and run functions of a winmo dll ? would be nice to have
21:32.10phhdon't know
21:33.41[acl]clk_regime_msm_enable can actually enable and disable everything for grp and other devices. im wondering if i can even shut off sound from there. Just a matter of passing it the right constant
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21:39.52Cotullaright?
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21:44.52[acl]Cotulla: .. or left?
21:45.21Cotullaleft
21:45.27Cotullabecause there too many clocks for audio
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21:45.46Cotullaso u can't disable it via clk_regime_msm_enable
21:45.53QDRany development on pm
21:46.25BigDaDDyisn't nand support is going to require some hd2's bricked in the process? :P
21:46.37BigDaDDy-is
21:46.37[acl]Cotulla: oo interesting. are the values the same for all the phones ? will help if i dont have to look at that asm again
21:46.41Scrizzc6fdebe3c6fdebe3
21:48.38Cotullamostly
21:49.07[acl]0x36 was for grp. 0x38 for pannel i think. I forgot the rest. But id be nice to have documented.
21:49.32[acl]at least that what it is for rhod
21:50.16Cotulla55 - IMEM 56 - GRP   on LEO :)
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21:51.18[acl]Cotulla: so its a lil off. Ok, so im not gonna bother with sound clock crap.
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21:53.46[acl]Cotulla: How can i disable the irqs on winmo? only thing i could find was on the kernel some calls to addresses 0xC000000
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21:54.57CotullaIRQ?
21:55.02Cotullaclear VIC?
21:55.35[acl]writel(0xffffffff, VIC_INT_CLEAR0);
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21:56.06QDRany news on new build dan1j3l
21:56.54Cotullalike this I guess
21:56.58Cotullathere also CLEAR1
21:57.39[acl]Cotulla: we already do this on the irq.c in the kernel. but i want to try to do it in winmo
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21:59.23manusfreedomCotulla: in msm_iomap.h why we have #define MSM_MDP_BASE          IOMEM(0xF8010000) and #define MSM_RAM_CONSOLE_BASE     IOMEM(0xF8010000) ?
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22:02.12manusfreedomyes
22:02.20Cotullawait
22:03.05Cotullalol really
22:03.25manusfreedomwhich one we move?
22:03.55manusfreedom(I am doing what I said, use desire/bravo code)
22:05.05manusfreedomfrom what I see we don't use mdpw function
22:05.16manusfreedomso we don't use MSM_MDP_BASE...
22:05.53manusfreedomI will comment that in my work dir...
22:06.06NetRippermanusfreedom, hm this is a bug
22:06.12NetRipperit was known already, but i thought it was solved already
22:06.39manusfreedomso you confirm that we don't use it?
22:07.01NetRipperno i can confirm it will cause problems
22:07.01NetRipper:P
22:07.05NetRipperand it should've been fixed
22:07.21NetRipperit was on the mailing list a while back
22:07.27manusfreedomha...
22:07.49Scrizzhmm
22:08.21Cotullayes
22:08.33Cotullait maybe my fault ^_^
22:08.46Cotullaor not
22:08.52Cotullalets look when it added
22:09.11NetRipper[acl], see take_control() in haret: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/haret/haret.git;a=blob;f=src/cpu.cpp;h=db31f05b8817f5ad4a99a9bd93ab1e9db00bf856;hb=HEAD
22:09.18NetRipperit disables interrupts
22:09.23NetRipperwithout clearing/removing them :)
22:09.26NetRipperit's just a normal arm call
22:10.04[acl]NetRipper: nice .. thanks
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22:11.50NetRipperlet's fix that iomem problem
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22:14.32manusfreedomin arch\arm\mach-msm\include\mach\vreg.h: we have "void vreg_disable(struct vreg *vreg);", it's not "in vreg_disable(struct vreg *vreg);" ?
22:15.38Cotulla?
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22:18.45NetRipperwe'll change#define MSM_RAM_CONSOLE_BASE    IOMEM(0xF8010000)
22:19.01NetRipperinto #define MSM_RAM_CONSOLE_BASE    IOMEM(0xF8F00000)
22:19.13NetRipperthat should keep us out of trouble, even on a next merge
22:19.24manusfreedomoky
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22:28.02voffknurhi all, anyhing new in hd2 andoid dev, if I may ask? :)
22:31.06voffknurthink there if issues aboyt rhe stabillitie when there is a androidapps folder in the releases, anyone else notice this? darkstone brilliant releases was more stable in the v5 beta then v5....
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22:32.55voffknurwadent able to make the.beta break for 9 hours, where 7 hours was standby...
22:33.35voffknurmight be something te cheak into:)
22:33.35NetRipperNRGZ28, hi
22:34.20NetRipperNRGZ28, a while back, for raphael, you made a 'bare rom' with virtually nothing on it except the possibility to load haret.exe
22:34.29NetRipperNRGZ28, you think you can do that for leo as well?
22:34.31NetRipper:)
22:36.48theredundantthere is one NetRipper
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22:36.54theredundantbut for desire builds i think
22:36.58theredundantbut i know theres one for leo
22:37.02theredundantread it in a forum
22:37.19theredundantlemme just find the post
22:37.29theredundantsince im that nice
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22:38.02theredundanthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7272031#post7272031
22:40.12NRGZ28yeah I made that as well obviously
22:40.13NetRipperoh ok
22:40.21NRGZ28but it's not as light as the ones I made for the raph and rhodium
22:40.23NetRipperdidnt know it was there already
22:40.30NRGZ28I will make one like that today
22:40.58NRGZ28the one posted there is really designed to load the desire build and it doesnt find the right files, it will shut down on you automatically :P
22:41.17NRGZ28I'll build a very light one today/tonite and post it up in the HD2 android threads....
22:41.24fakker;]
22:42.17theredundantnice
22:42.19theredundantcheers :)
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22:43.49NetRipperNRGZ28, thanks, i suppose it's enough if it just runs haret.exe on storage card
22:44.55Bladesin desire v5, latinime has been removed, does anyone know of a reliable apk. I've seen too many file size variations to trust any old apk. What should the file size be with voice search removed - is that even possible?
22:45.00darkstonehallo
22:45.03darkstonejust back from work
22:45.14darkstoneright
22:45.19darkstonewhats fucked in v5?
22:45.26darkstonei'll take a look
22:46.08Bladesnothing. its very nice. its just that I prefer the default keyboard, and it appears to have been removed in this version.
22:46.24darkstonehehe
22:46.29darkstoneim talking about major bugs
22:46.30darkstone:P
22:46.39darkstonelike, freezes etc
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22:46.50Bladesi have one apk that is 187.6k in size, another that is 406.2k.
22:46.53Bladesah
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22:47.15Bladesi'm pretty sure the green tearing during video playback is driver related
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22:50.46Bladesi've had some strange behavior that seems to be related to when i recieve a new email via gmail. It plays the first track of a 3oh3 album as a notification on my sd card. obviously.. thats probably the first mp3 file indexed.. I'm not sure if that is specific to something i may have changed
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22:51.51NeoFluxBlades: Might be because there is no audio files in the build because darkstone removed them all
22:51.59dredarkstone: v5 still random freeze but imo way better than v4
22:52.05ala380darkstone: i still got sleep of death but only once and haven't been able to reproduce it yet so it was most likely a hiccup with my storage card
22:52.23dredarkstone: is there a way to change the mic vol ?
22:52.30darkstonenot yet
22:52.44dreno sleep death for me here
22:52.45Bladesin settings-sounddisplay-notificationsound there is a working list of audio/notification files
22:52.52Bladesso thats not the case
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22:53.36dredarkstone: k thx people say it very loud when i am on the phone with them
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22:54.02NeoFluxdre: Tell them to turn their volume down then
22:54.04Bladesturbo mode is a bitch.. the 'launch haret within 30 seconds' solution isn't really accurate.. if you boot into winmo, plug the charger in, unplug charger.. and then launch haret.. its turbo mode for sure.. so it seems to be any change in power state triggers it..
22:54.06dredarlstone: but all in all this v5 build really nice good job
22:54.17darkstonedre: yep i know about that mic gain needs to turned down
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22:55.09dreNeoflux: LOL yeah but all in all I still like the fact that i can use andriod instead of WM :-)
22:55.14Bladescom.android.settings is FCing.. but that seems to be from installing the droid x multitouch keyboard.. realizing it was hella buggy.. and then uninstalling
22:55.22Bladesso yea.. dont do that
22:55.53dredarkstone: any ideas on y freezing ?
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22:57.31darkstonedre: i have an idea of what it may be
22:57.39darkstonekeep in mind, i've had no crash so far
22:57.47darkstoneso it might be related to WM rom and radio
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22:58.50fakkerhm, you dont get the freezes?
22:58.57fakkeri only get freezes when installing apps
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22:59.33fakkerlarge apps mind
22:59.47fakkertwitter and such do nothing to it - if you try getting slingplayer, or google maps
22:59.51fakkersomething over 3-4mb
22:59.51iDavid@ darkstone: True, no more crashes but sometimes when you watch a video you get a green screen blinking
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23:00.08fakkerno crashes though ^
23:00.16dredarkstone: k np good to hear we might be close on the freeze issue, it really sucks but i am so happy to run andriod that a few freeze here and there is k for now
23:00.17Cotullaheh
23:00.18fakkerim nearly to have my hd2 back as my main phone
23:00.23edangelwhere is the google voice or voice search on launcher pro?
23:00.23fakker:|
23:00.30dreCotulla: sup
23:00.31Cotullaif ((rand() % 5) == 0)  BUG();
23:00.34fakkerthen someone can buy my Desire
23:00.36iDavid:P
23:00.39ala380i haven't had any freezes at all actually just the one random sleep of death.  v5 has been really really stable for me so far so maybe it is related to our wm roms
23:00.53fakkerim running stock 1.66
23:00.59iDavidif ((rand() %100) == 100) Cotulla is cool ();
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23:01.30dredarkstone: rom info that u use pls so i can try to see if that wrks
23:01.41iDavidMiri v17
23:01.52iDavidThe most stable one you can use with Android
23:01.59dredarkstone: using miri 17.6 right now with 2.10 radio
23:02.02edangelno voice search on launcher pro desire v5???
23:02.09iDavidUse 2.12 radio
23:02.26dredarkstone: tried 2.12 but signal was crappy
23:02.31Bladesok my bad.. the song i mentioned earlier is playing without new gmail notification
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23:02.34Bladesit just played on startup
23:02.47iDaviddarkstone: Can you recommend a Radio
23:02.52iDavid?
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23:04.08iDavidI guess if we flash into NAND
23:04.17iDavidWe'll have to use another Radio
23:04.22iDavidfor androids
23:04.31iDavidJust like Nexus and the others, am i right ?
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23:04.50darkstone<iDavid> darkstone: Can you recommend a Radio
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23:05.00drenand yes lets do it
23:05.04darkstoneif you look at the desire section on gamesquare
23:05.14darkstoneat the bottom i've listed the radio and rom i use
23:05.21Cotullaheh u lucky ppl
23:05.26Cotullau can guess something
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23:05.44Cotullabecause u dunno truth
23:05.44dreu have some new stuff for us :-)
23:05.53iDavidDarkstone: u recommended a wm rom
23:06.03Cotullabut I can't guess because I know :(
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23:06.16gauner1986what truth? :)
23:06.16darkstoneCotulla: you made the hd2 grant 3 wishes? :D
23:06.17iDavidCotulla: can you explain to us then, please ?
23:06.21darkstoneiDavid: its there
23:06.21tmzt805
23:06.35Cotullait's difficult
23:06.46ala380uh oh
23:06.49kevevdre: Yes nand next!  :o)
23:06.54iDaviddarkstone: kk.. let mec check :))
23:06.54Cotullawant to say that u have ability to guess something
23:06.58Cotullawhile I have not
23:07.00Bladeshas anyone gotten the device to literally speed up ([time] clock) while staying in android?
23:07.07Cotullabecause I know :)
23:07.12iDavidWe are supporting
23:07.13Cotullaso u lucky
23:07.23drekevev: yay thats what i am talking about bye WM
23:07.28iDavidLike a football team
23:07.32iDavidYou're the player
23:07.35BladesCotulla, would you be able to make use of Tmo HD2?
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23:07.46iDavidAnd we're the supporters/watchers
23:07.57Bladesi got one for my girlfriend and shes being a cunt
23:08.07Scrizzlol
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23:08.19ala380girl in the room blades we don't like that word, lol
23:08.27iDavidDarkstone: My radio is 2.10.50.26 << this is new :P
23:08.32fakkerCotulla, can you help me get windows mobile on htc desire?
23:08.38darkstoneiDavid: yup
23:08.46iDavidfakker: WTF ???
23:08.47fakkeri love you long time
23:08.47tmztfakker: ?
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23:09.09ali1234nand isn't all gravy you know
23:09.12tmztala380: girl in the room that's not cmonex?
23:09.18fakkerwould nand solve hte install issue?
23:09.22fakkerperhaps it's SD speed
23:09.23ali1234it might fix some problems, but introduce new ones if some hardware isn't init at all
23:09.23iDavidWe're trying to escape from wm and you want it ?
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23:09.34fakkeriDavid, it was a joke - relax
23:09.48iDavidIt might cuz more problems
23:09.55tmztI guess things really are changing
23:10.07Scrizzew
23:10.11iDavidSince we boot from Haret...
23:10.18kevevhas anyone ever accessed nand on any htc devices?
23:10.31kevevI mean flashed android to it?
23:10.39fakkeryeah
23:10.44iDavidCan you guys explain to us how does it work (Cotulla, dcordes) ??
23:10.53fakkertytnII can i think kevev
23:10.54kevevwhat device?
23:10.59kevevwow. cool
23:10.59fakkerguy sitting next to me has droid on his
23:11.10fakkeri think his is on nand ?
23:11.10Cotullafakker why u need it?
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23:11.18fakkerCotulla, forget - i was pulling your leg
23:11.23Cotulla:D :D
23:11.27fakkeri'll buy you a milk
23:11.33CotullaWTF!!!
23:11.38fakker5L of it!
23:11.39iDavidCotulla can you answer my question please ?
23:11.42CotullaI DON"T DRINK MILK
23:11.45CotullaONLY KEFIR!!!
23:11.51iDavidLol Kefir
23:11.53DiscoLinux435what if we mix vodka with the milk?
23:11.57fakkerkefir
23:11.58iDavidkifir = malako
23:12.03CotullaWTF fakker
23:12.16CotullaKEFIR!
23:12.23fakkerok
23:12.26ali1234"an effervescent beverage" - it's fizzy milk?
23:12.29fakker5L of Kefir
23:12.35Cotullaoh
23:12.36Cotullanice
23:12.37Cotulla:P
23:12.40fakkerbtw, i asked my gf about kefir
23:12.44Cotullaand?
23:12.47fakkerwe're going to latvia on friday
23:12.51fakkershe will buy me some
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23:12.53iDavidKefir is good you know
23:12.55CotullaOLOLOLO!
23:13.01CotullaOLOLOLO111
23:13.02fakkermaybe it'll make me smart? :D
23:13.07CotullaI am under table
23:13.11fakkerlolling? :P
23:13.15Cotullateah\
23:13.16fakkeri wanna try this amazing drink
23:13.20iDavidCotulla wanna get a suka ?
23:13.32Cotullaloling like bigest lol in the world
23:13.37Cotullasuka?
23:13.40Cotulla:D
23:13.44antoszkaKefir++
23:13.54iDavidYa
23:13.57kevevbeen drinking Thai Tea like crazy lately myself ;)
23:14.12fakkerCotulla, im serious lol... i asked her about it - she said she will buy me some when we go to see if i like it
23:14.18Cotullayeah
23:14.24fakker:D
23:14.25Cotullau will understand
23:14.29fakkerit better not taste gross man
23:14.33ala380Darkstone: I can't believe you actually asked for bug reports on the xda forum.  i think i'm going to stop reading it now, lol
23:14.34Cotulladifferences between milk at least
23:15.06Cotullawe can make bugtracker btw
23:15.13Cotullasetup some free bt system
23:15.13iDavidYEY!
23:15.52shu8i~seen danj3l
23:15.54apti haven't seen 'danj3l', shu8i
23:15.58iDavidFrom now we'll be chasing the bugs
23:16.01iDavidand kill them
23:16.09iDavidjust like the real bugs
23:16.17iDavidwe step on them
23:16.44shu8i~seen dan1j3l
23:16.44aptdan1j3l is currently on #htc-linux (17m 22s), last said: 'NeoFlux: got irritated with some libs'.
23:16.56Scrizzpunches fakker in the EYE!!
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23:17.24darkstone[00:14:32] <ala380> Darkstone: I can't believe you actually asked for bug reports on the xda forum.  i think i'm going to stop reading it now, lol
23:17.26darkstoneyep
23:17.35darkstoneim expecting an explosion of "OMG THIS DOESNT WORK"
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23:17.40Cotullaif u able to code like u flooding....
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23:18.12Cotulladarkstone, we will see reactions
23:18.19darkstonexD
23:18.22Scrizzlol
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23:18.57Cotullafakker, ur ftp really without limitations? :D
23:19.04fakkerCotulla, correct
23:19.11dre<Cotulla> any idea y 2.2 froyo freeze when the display auto rotate is on ?
23:19.19Cotullaget log and look
23:19.32Cotullamaybe kernel crash somewhere...
23:19.52Cotullahm ppl u still have speedy timerz?
23:19.57dre:-) pls tell me how to log so i can give u better info
23:20.05fakkeronly if the phone has been sleeping in winmo for some time Cotulla
23:20.15dan1j3ltime to sleep, nn
23:20.18fakkerthen it is nearly always speedy
23:20.27dieselboydan1j3l, no upload?
23:20.30Cotullahm
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23:21.09iDavidCotulla, after using the phone it does have a turbo speed
23:21.21iDavidBut when you boot it with JMZ
23:21.24iDavidit works fine
23:21.26Jack_Esame here
23:21.40iDavidNand would fix it right ?
23:21.45Jack_Eleave it about 2 mins and you'll get turbo
23:21.56Jack_Emust be something winmo does
23:22.15iDavidMaybe WinMo has a turbo mode
23:22.15kevevlol ya NAND!
23:22.44Jack_Enand is meh
23:23.12kevevya Im just too chep to buy a fast SD
23:23.24Jack_Eindeed
23:23.51ala380lol, yup just forgot that i restarted my phone and was left on JMZ screen for too long and still ended up with turbo speed after booting android.  First time I've had turbo speed
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23:24.36iDavidWhy is on http://robsbay.co.uk/ USB Charging is stated Completed
23:25.03iDavidWhile its kinda buggy while charging from PC
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23:25.29Scrizzw8 wth rosbay
23:25.50Dr`RyderiDavid: Don't use that one. It's not accurate. Use http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Status
23:27.30iDavidAtleast http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Status is giving something Logic
23:27.54iDavidBattery charging is stated as in testing
23:27.58Dr`RyderMhm.
23:28.25CotullaUSB charging is working however
23:28.28CotullaAC doesn't
23:28.36Scrizzhm
23:28.38Scrizzreally
23:29.05Dr`RyderAC charging works for me I think.
23:29.09Dr`RyderNever paid attention.
23:29.26fakkertakes ac adapter out of his bag to use for the first time
23:29.28iDavidWait...
23:29.37iDavidYou guys got Nand ?
23:29.37iDavidhttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo_NAND
23:29.45iDavidalready ?
23:29.45kevevlol no
23:29.49kevevwish so
23:29.55rob_____hey @idavid, sorry usb charging is working. the site is defo 100% up today.. anyhow.. Im getting the impression turbo is caused when windows mobile goes to sleep... can anyone agree?
23:30.01fakkerno point for nand yet, wait til everything works normal as can be
23:30.05rob_____up to date*
23:30.20kevevfakker: agreed
23:30.34kevevany development progress today?
23:30.43iDavidTry charging with your PC
23:31.08rob_____yes, no-one will want to remove winmo untill build is a little more developed, nand not neccasary yet (not saying it cannot be started though0
23:31.36iDavidWell... what if Nand requires another drivers
23:31.46rob_____:S? eh
23:32.14iDavidLike, not compatible with the builds...
23:32.24iDavidor dunno.. nvm
23:32.33dreCotulla: if i boot my phone with the ac pluged in it charges the phone slow but it charges
23:32.50Cotullabut it should charge fucking fast
23:32.57Cotullaso => not working
23:32.58dreLOL
23:33.10Cotullaalso u can read in status USB instead of AC
23:33.39dreyes true but it charges better than nothing for now
23:33.46rob_____im gonna leave usb charging as working on www.robsbay.co.uk , agreed? I will add another section for ac?
23:34.35drerob_____: k soungs good
23:34.48rob_____:)
23:34.53Scrizzvery bad
23:35.32antoszkarob_____: On your chart you're mentioning 65k colors done – isn't that a hardware limitation of the Leo? That's what we have in wimno, too.
23:36.05fakkerwhich is why there's X for both the others
23:36.25Scrizzsomething isn't done until it's fully working
23:36.44hypersonicxso using android we can get more than 65k color?
23:36.51dieselboynope
23:37.06hypersonicxawe
23:37.25rob_____well that is kind of up for speculation, i dont think it is a hardware limitation, well again, its questionable
23:37.39antoszkafakker: Which I suppose should be there at all (if it *is* a hardware speculation).
23:37.46antoszkaerr... limitation
23:38.04antoszkafakker: otherwise you could put „coffee brewing” [x] [x] there as well.
23:38.13fakkergo for it
23:38.17antoszkaNope.
23:38.29fakkerput kefir on there
23:38.56Cotullamda
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23:39.21iDavidMdr ?
23:39.26fakkermda lol
23:39.31fakkermdma? :P
23:39.34Cotullamda
23:39.38Cotullaìäà
23:39.45iDavid(12:38:55 AM) Cotulla: mda
23:39.51fakkerhow is the donkey Cotulla?
23:40.03Cotullano I wasn't there
23:40.06fakker;(
23:40.46CotullaI got  new crash
23:41.04iDavidOn WinMo we could remote a windows
23:41.07iDavidwith 16M
23:41.19iDavidand 256k too
23:41.31iDavidDoesnt that mean we can get them too ?
23:41.38Cotullano
23:41.54iDavid:(
23:42.10Jack_E:P
23:42.16Cotullait's no longer so hot hehe
23:42.50rob_____I have updated the table accordingly http://robsbay.co.uk/ :P
23:43.06iDavidI guess russian chicks caused the heat
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23:43.13fakkerheh
23:43.25fakkerdont say that :P
23:43.48iDavidWhat did you add exactly Rob ?
23:43.54Cotullafakker where u meet her? ^_^
23:44.08rob_____@idavid: KEFIR
23:44.18rob_____that is all
23:44.37fakkerCotulla, in england
23:44.57iDavid:P
23:45.05iDavidCotulla is english ?
23:45.06Cotullaomg
23:45.26CotullaI about facker's GF :P
23:45.37iDavidkk...
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23:45.56fakkerCotulla, she's from RU, but lived in Latvia but studies here
23:46.15fakkeri have to meet her family this weekend, i dont think they speak english - so im pretty screwed
23:46.23Cotullahehe
23:46.26Scrizzhehe
23:46.27Cotullalet learn u
23:46.28iDavidHello comrads
23:46.30Cotulla:D
23:46.30iDavid:P
23:46.32fakkersuka!
23:46.36fakkeri know some latvian
23:46.39CotullaOMFG
23:46.40iDavidpidar
23:46.44fakkerpupi, pimpis, ej dirst
23:46.49iDavidpawol naxui
23:46.50fakkeryou know it? :P)
23:47.00Cotullaoutof lol
23:47.06fakkeri think they will kill me if i said this
23:47.15fakkerhaha
23:47.17iDavidall those words are cool for families you know
23:47.26Cotullalll
23:47.32fakkerhey, ej dirst
23:47.39fakkershow me pupi, i show you pimpis
23:48.00Cotullalol
23:48.12Cotullaswear words
23:48.14fakkeryup
23:48.22iDavidna kalena suka
23:48.24iDavid:P
23:48.25Scrizzhaha
23:48.27Cotullabut RU have the best swears in the world
23:48.34Scrizzthe first things ppl learn in a new language
23:48.37fakkershe told me the same thing
23:48.42antoszkarob_____: Which part of Kefir is working :)?
23:48.43fakkeryou guys have many expressions for swearing
23:49.04Cotullayeah
23:49.09Cotullaalso we can create new
23:49.12Cotullafrom clear paper
23:49.14Cotulla:)
23:49.15fakkeri'd like to learn it, i guess - just so i know if she is saying bad things about me or not
23:49.18iDavid:?
23:49.25iDavidCan create ?
23:49.27Scrizzyeah
23:49.30Cotullayeah
23:49.32iDavidomg...
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23:49.38iDavidthis is not linux cotulla :P
23:49.41iDavidits irl
23:49.45Scrizzit's RU
23:49.47Scrizzjaaja
23:49.53rob_____antoszka: dispense is working but the flow rate is really bad, needs improving :P Taste is not great either :)
23:49.56iDavidi know and i live in ukraine
23:50.11fakkercool iDavid
23:50.22fakkeri think her mum is from there
23:50.27Rafyvittohello guys
23:50.30iDavidNice to hear :)
23:50.36fakkerlearn me something rude
23:50.37CotullaScrizz, Spain?
23:50.49iDavidLike ?
23:50.51Scrizzoh no
23:50.55Scrizzahaha
23:51.02Scrizzclose
23:51.08iDavidMexico
23:51.11iDavidVato'
23:51.12Scrizz>_>
23:51.13Cotullaow... shit... I forgot about it :'(
23:51.15Scrizzno
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23:51.26antoszkarob_____: Hm... I suppose this is related to the *graininess* of proper kefir. Perhaps we should build a Kefir homogenizer?
23:51.47rob_____phahaha oh dear
23:51.58fakkerrob_____, you actually put kefir on there? haha
23:52.04iDavidantoszka: believe me kefir is hard to...
23:52.09rob_____http://robsbay.co.uk/stats/awstats.pl?framename=mainright&output=alldomains  l000k at country list. many countrys visit site
23:52.11Cotullamy bear is too hungry, I need put him some meat... wait... go to kitchen now, will come back later
23:52.12NeoFluxhttp://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/
23:52.26iDavidBeer ?
23:52.28fakkerwhat about your donkey Cotulla?
23:52.31fakkerpoor guy
23:52.32iDavidor Bear omg
23:52.35CotullaBear
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23:52.42antoszkaiDavid: I drink kefir – it's enough to stir it with a fork to make it a little homogenized :)
23:52.53iDavid:P
23:52.58iDavidBTW!
23:53.06Cotullaok away
23:53.08fakkercu
23:53.12iDavid#htc-linux-chat
23:53.20iDavidDude...
23:53.26Scrizzlol
23:53.29iDavidwe've crossed the line
23:53.36antoszkaWell... It's in the wiki :)
23:53.39antoszkaSo it's official.
23:53.57antoszkaNow HTC will have to build Kefir support into the Leo.
23:54.09iDavidRofl...
23:54.13fakkerjoin chat
23:54.18antoszkaHardware-accelerated kefir.
23:54.41NeoFluxhttp://gprime.net/flash.php/youareapirate

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