IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100719

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00:05.34FDok rootfs from desirebeta in froyo kinda works but is a no go really  :p
00:06.00gauner1986?
00:06.44FDwas a test to see if it enabled fullscreen apps, i wasnt that hopeful really  :)
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00:09.04gauner1986and what did that test yield?
00:10.01FDi couldnt get any results. it booted but not stable long enough to test  lol
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00:11.00gauner1986i don't think you can easily just replace it
00:11.06FDit would seem not
00:11.14hypersonicxwhen they did the froyo build it was from Nexus One which is not 800.480 screen res. I think they would need a whole new froyo build from a phone that already has 800.480 res Nexus is 600somthin by 300somthin which is why some apps arnt full screen
00:11.18FDi hadto move data.img and system.ext2 to sdroot to get it booting
00:12.29Scrizzdude
00:12.40Scrizzthe nexus is 800x480
00:12.42Scrizzhttp://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html
00:12.49Scrizzstop posting BS
00:12.52ScrizzThan You
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00:12.55hypersonicxits not true 800.480
00:13.00Scrizz*Thank You
00:13.19huggy_72connected to ac and on 3g for 3h the device is not so hot as usual
00:13.44huggy_72whit latest Cotulla kernel on desirebeta
00:14.17hypersonicxwow told me to stop posting BS lol
00:14.23hypersonicxScrizz http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-one-display-not-true-wvga-20100325/
00:14.43hypersonicxif it was 800.480 then all the appz would be full screen
00:14.51hypersonicxon the froyo port
00:16.02Scrizzahahahaha
00:16.23Scrizzit still is 800x480   :P
00:17.05hypersonicxfroyo is scaled to the nexus one 392 x 653 which is the scale of the appz not using all of the HD2 screen on the froyo build
00:17.36hypersonicxso um... No Thank You Scrizz
00:18.59hypersonicxdont get me wrong, the screen on the N1 is beautiful but it also has amoled where the HD2 is on lcd. i had 2 n1s so far and compared to the hd2 the n1 screen looks better
00:19.08hypersonicxbut i think thats the led making it look better
00:19.15hypersonicxbut the HD2 does do higher res
00:19.23Scrizzso vibrant screen Wins
00:19.26Scrizzright?
00:19.30hypersonicxyep
00:19.43Scrizzok
00:19.48Scrizzi admit defeat
00:19.53Scrizzpublicly
00:19.59Scrizz:D
00:20.00hypersonicxthey shoulda went amoled on the hd2
00:20.04hypersonicx:D
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00:52.59huggy_72hey guys
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00:54.07huggy_72i think you are happy to know video rec work perfect whit audio
00:54.23huggy_72mp4
00:54.37Scrizz?
00:54.40Scrizzwhat?
00:55.02huggy_72just use camcorder from market
00:55.16huggy_72whit touch rec button
00:55.39huggy_72and work out of the box :)
00:56.22huggy_72ancorder beta  app name
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00:57.13huggy_72i have used
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01:00.38huggy_72on desirebeta + last Doc.COTULLA Kernel
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01:06.31huggy_72MSG TO DEVS CAMCORDER WORK WHIT APP FROM MARKET, WHIT AUDIO!
01:06.56UnholyOMG CAPS
01:07.17huggy_72:( sorry
01:07.25ScrizzPWND!
01:07.35maejrepI think you meant WITH
01:07.36thePACEgreat
01:07.41maejrep(x2)
01:07.43thePACEcan you post app name to save me time
01:08.32huggy_72anCorder free one
01:08.43maejrep*4
01:08.54thePACEthx\
01:08.59Scrizzyw
01:09.11Brekemlol
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01:12.44ShadowFoxBiHhey guys whats up?
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01:15.32huggy_72then we need a dev remapping trackball to a Hardkey to htc camera to have videorec full working on default app
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01:20.03darkstonenew build @ http://gamesquare.co.uk/ Desire v4
01:20.05darkstoneenjoy
01:22.31huggy_72yeah darkstone! grazie mille
01:22.58ScrizzTY oh great Darkstone
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01:23.34huggy_72darkstone: have you noticed video rec are working?
01:23.58darkstonecant start video rec since there isnt an optical pad
01:24.00darkstone:p
01:24.01vadvaddoes the  phone freeze in sleep or is it fixt
01:24.07darkstonetrackball*
01:24.15darkstonevadvad: read the page.
01:24.34darkstoneAudio in calls | Battery Charging / Battery meter | FM Radio | Camera | Proximity sensor | Bluetooth fully working | Backlight control | Video Playback | Lower chance of phone freeze in sleep
01:24.38Dr`Ryderdarkstone: You know it's the 18th right? Or, is it the 19th where you are? Also, are we going to move past having to use a certain rom to get sound working right?
01:24.45darkstone19th where i am :p
01:25.05darkstoneDr`Ryder: from what ive heard, audio might actually be working for everyone fine now
01:25.10darkstonebut it's just a suggestion
01:25.14iDavidAny news ?
01:25.44Dr`RyderHmm. Well, I'm on a custom rom made by me and my friend. So, I'll be the only one to know if it works for me or not. I just don't see any sense in not using my own rom because of some dependency.
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01:27.12darkstoneDr`Ryder: it seems something to do with rilphone afaik
01:27.57huggy_72darkstone: video rec whit ancorder app from market ;)
01:28.07Dr`RyderAny custom rom should be able to use any copy of the rilphone, right? So, for now, we should probably find a rom it works with, extract the rilphone and include it in the builds so people who don't have sound working can use it.
01:28.14darkstonehuggy_72 nice :D
01:28.35darkstoneDr`Ryder: give the build a go first and tell me if you have issues though
01:28.41darkstoneit may be fixed already
01:28.44Dr`RyderIt's almost done downloading.
01:28.48darkstoneok
01:29.55huggy_72darkstone: we only need remap trackball then
01:30.09huggy_72any clue about this?
01:30.22darkstonewill probably end up replacing the camera app
01:30.51Dr`RyderExtracting.
01:31.01Dr`RyderWell, copying to SD.
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01:36.04huggy_72darkstone: yes the lazy way!
01:36.11Scrizz2aaf8105
01:36.47darkstonexD
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01:37.16huggy_72you know why is 3mpx limited?
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01:37.42huggy_72is this from desire right?
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01:38.14ShadowFoxBiHdamn usb cable keep getting knocked loose
01:38.20darkstonehuggy_72: yes
01:39.29huggy_72hum... is  a 5mpx camera....
01:39.53darkstoneit needs fixing
01:39.57huggy_72why only 3mpx max option?
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01:40.06huggy_72yeah
01:42.18huggy_72..dwldng whit h3g right now
01:42.22Scrizzi stopped here
01:43.41huggy_72so slow, battery can't charge whit intensive use, only  mantains level..
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01:45.23ShadowFoxBiHtry using the wallplug
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01:46.44vadvadi had lights on the Buttons the first time
01:48.02vadvadbut then they go off the second time
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01:50.28Dexaudioout working??
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01:57.01FD_HD2ancorder doesn't work in froyo it seems
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03:04.32fpozHey everybody! I just got an old HTC Apache (Verizon xv6700) and I started updating its kernel to something recent (Linux 2.6.34/35). I've run into a few problems, and I was wondering if anyone here knew their way around the hardware (specifically the EGPIO chip) - tekkdrone kind of left me in the dark when his git repository went down.
03:05.15darkstonenn
03:05.48AndroUserquit while ur ahead an get a htc hd2
03:06.08fpozWhat's the fun in that?
03:07.04AndroUserhmm im guessing u dont read alot
03:07.29fpozI do, and I can't stand devices without physical keyboards.
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03:08.19Dr`RyderI used to be like that.
03:08.28AndroUsersucks to be u then
03:09.47fpozI uploaded my WIP: http://pastebin.com/wfww9s4k (main board file) and http://pastebin.com/bPniLPWm (GPIO definitions) if anyone is interested
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03:14.14fpozI got the LCD, MiniSD, keyboard, and a few other things working... Unfortunately, almost everything else depending on the CPLD that worked in the handhelds.org kernel won't work (sound, WiFi, LEDs, etc)
03:15.25fpozAndroUser, I also use *native* Debian on my phones. Android is a programming nightmare...
03:15.31Refugedo i add apn's in the wireless apn names sections with start button
03:15.35Refugei'm getting task manager
03:15.36Refuge:p
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03:41.31Refugewierd
03:41.35Refugei can't get root access
03:41.41Refugeis this version not rooted
03:41.41Refuge?
03:42.13ShadowFoxBiHhey darkstone you around?
03:42.39noob_rhodium running latest froyo build:  anyone know how to turn off the bottom row hard buttons backlighting?
03:45.26noob_thanks
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03:54.11fpozdcordes? tmzt? Maybe you can point me in the right direction. Oh, wait, nobody here owns an HTC Apache anymore :P If nothing else, at least point me to someone who has one...
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04:20.56Refugethe charging curent is not enough for the device power consumptions
04:20.58Refugewierd
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04:38.23AndroUseryeah ive notice that also
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05:05.20Bladeswifi is still connecting @ G speeds, correct? 54mbps?
05:05.32ShadowFoxBiHyes
05:05.56Bladeshave you seen the transfer speeds?
05:06.13Bladesits blazing at 43 KB
05:06.24Bladesover SMB using astro.. that is
05:07.21Bladesin winmo, storage card access tends to work the cpu pretty hard, i'm guessing this is the case with android? I should do a test over usb.. see what the actual transfer rate is
05:07.38Bladesfyi centon class 6.. not exactly up to class 6 par
05:09.08Bladesit just occured to me that this desirebuildv4 uses sqsh
05:09.21Bladesnot ext2..
05:09.43Bladesis there a noticable difference in r/w speed?
05:11.05Bladesi wonder whos mac id this actually is
05:11.06Bladeshttp://standards.ieee.org/cgi-bin/ouisearch?00-11-22
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05:13.54Blades:( fios.
05:14.32ScrizzFiOS ftMFw
05:15.09Bladesyeah. i have two comcast cable modems on a multi-wan router.. but it'll never be fios
05:15.28Bladesit'll always be suck. and verizon said they don't plan to expand.
05:16.18Bladeshow much ram is made available to android currently?
05:16.44Bladesand does that include (shared) vram?
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05:19.50Bladesto noob_'s question.. said at 05:42 according to irc logs.. regarding rhod keyboard backlight.. if the keyboard/front button(s) backlight is on when haret is loaded, it will stay lit. same goes for charging/message led indicator.
05:20.20bizmark03i updated the radio and kept the stock rom...still get the robotic voice....
05:20.27Bladesi think its the same way with leo.. tho i am in the habit of making sure the keybd backlight is off before haret is loaded
05:21.25Bladesis this problem heard by the leo user or the person called?
05:22.27BlackRhinoI just made a call, no robodic voice. let me make an extended call..
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05:22.47BladesI'm calling my other phone right now to check that out.. is htc dialer supposed to sound all crazy? Those dial tones don't sound right.. sounds like an untuned piano
05:22.53Bladeshere goes
05:22.55bizmark03the other person can hear me clearly...i can hear the oter persons voice in a robotic manner
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05:23.42Bladesheh.. some sounds don't even register..
05:23.55Bladesbut if i blow into the phone. i do hear the robotic sound you are talking about
05:24.04Bladesand the ringing sound is robotic
05:24.19BlackRhinoincall sound fube
05:24.21BlackRhino*fine
05:24.38BlackRhinohowever land line i can hear myself/echo
05:24.44BlackRhinocrystal clear
05:25.05Bladesthats cuz you are probably holding both phones close!
05:25.06Bladesheh
05:25.20BlackRhinoshould be softer
05:25.24BlackRhinobut its picking it up
05:25.29BlackRhinolet me go far away.
05:25.53Bladesmy phone is bugging out.. a very midiesque tone.. doesn't seem like its going to stop.. oh and it just did
05:26.13voffknur_So what is the next plan?  GPS?
05:26.19BlackRhinook ultra sentitive
05:26.43Bladeshas anyone ever toyed with the audioreroute program in winmo before loading android
05:26.53Bladesi use it to force skype calls thru the earpiece
05:27.39Bladeswhat does clrcad actually do and would that program screw with its functionality?
05:28.04Bladesif all sounds were routed thru the earpiece, would they all sound robotic?
05:28.40Bladesuhh.. no skype in ando market?
05:28.48Bladesgreat
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05:43.07Bladesany fring users? Am I correct in assuming that fring call audio is supposed to be routed to earpiece?
05:43.31Scrizzum
05:44.06Bladesits just not happening.. and its acting rather laggy before it initiates a call
05:45.14Bladesit doesn't crash or anything.. but its damn close
05:46.20Bladesok.. well, i am able to adjust in call volume when fring call is initiated. that overlay comes up instead of media volume.. so yeah.. it looks like a call to android.. but dammit, wheres my robovoice
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05:48.08Bladesoh man, thats wild... video call seems to work.. as far as the video portion goes
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05:50.10Sakr2008quick question is it possible to use Android on BlueAngel I have been searching I found one youtube video
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07:43.03LSnakeQuestion. What is the Best RADIO version to RUN Android
07:43.03LSnakewithout problems.
07:43.44FD_HD2It's more affected by winmo Rom
07:45.20LSnakeim using Dutty Troy HG 4.0
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07:51.19Defiant-Miri's lightweight seems fine
07:52.51ScrizzI run it with CkuckyROM June23
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08:09.47SMASEMhello dev's and thire tails
08:10.26SMASEMsorry for bad english
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08:27.45BigDaDDywith the latest kernel by cotulla, when i press the power button, what happens? does it only turn off the screen?
08:29.19FDno
08:29.23FDit only dims the backlight
08:29.24FD;)
08:29.41FDscreen goes blank, doesnt turn off
08:29.52BigDaDDyoh :(
08:30.05BigDaDDyok so that explains the battery drain :P
08:30.15tmztthat would require the ability to reinit the display
08:30.31BigDaDDyjust got GSOD
08:30.51BigDaDDystarted dan's froyo with latest kernel when plugged to my pc
08:30.55BigDaDDygsod
08:31.16BigDaDDylol
08:31.24BigDaDDywhen i press the power button the gsod disappears
08:31.31BigDaDDywhen i press it again its back
08:31.39FDlol
08:31.42FDdoh
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09:48.29Defiant-A n00b question
09:48.40phhno.
09:48.41Defiant-how do you close apps on the android build?
09:48.47Defiant-I see them all running .... when I have a look?
09:49.36Cassinstall advanced task killer from marketplace
09:49.52phhDefiant-: why do you care ?
09:49.55CassAndroid is so sophisticated you never need to close apps ..
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09:54.16LSnakethe speech to text is missing in desire v4 :(
09:54.40Defiant-phh cause :P
09:55.19LSnake?
09:55.26LSnakephh?
09:55.39Defiant-Cass, were there not issues with that app?
09:55.50Defiant-I think someone here raised concerns about it
09:56.33Cassive been using it for months on my Legend, no issues at all .. been using it since i could boot android on the leo .. no issues at all
09:58.04Defiant-ok will install
09:58.13Defiant-the latest desire build v4 is quite nice
10:02.31BigDaDDyCass: which radio r u using?
10:09.21SMASEMmarket is forbidden in my country any way to do that like hotspot shield proxy
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10:15.18Anders_Keisdarkstone: Thx for an amazing build with the V4, gonna try it for production a whole day now :)
10:15.47CassBigDaDDy, 2.12
10:16.14BigDaDDyand is your device tmo or not?
10:16.21Cassnot
10:16.45BigDaDDyweird
10:16.59BigDaDDyi had 2.12 and on android ppl tell me they can hear themselves and that there are background noises
10:17.15BigDaDDyfroyo + cotulla's latest
10:17.42Cassdepends on the region your in with radios i think
10:17.47Casssome are good some are bad
10:18.06BigDaDDymake sense i guess
10:18.18danibjorBigDaDDy, had that widh the desireBeta build + cotulla kernel
10:18.21BigDaDDyjust task 29'ed and currently flashing 2.08 with miris
10:18.43BigDaDDydanibjor: did you resolve it?
10:19.10danibjorit was 3am - so no.. and i reflashed with desire v4 this morning when that was up
10:19.29BigDaDDygot it
10:19.36BigDaDDynot gonna use desire
10:19.46BigDaDDytoo heavy with sense in it
10:19.53BigDaDDyi dont see why u need sense in android
10:20.01danibjorit comes with the "stock" launcher too
10:20.02BigDaDDyit makes no sense :)
10:20.05danibjor<PROTECTED>
10:20.11BigDaDDyyeah but i just dont want it there :P
10:20.28danibjorthe htc keyboard is better
10:20.49BigDaDDywhat's on the android builds of non-htc devices?
10:20.53BigDaDDylauncherpro?
10:21.08danibjorlemme check
10:21.11Casslauncher2
10:21.26Casslauncherpro can be added from mktplce
10:21.56Cassfroyo has awb launcher or some such
10:22.18danibjorbtw, i'm using radio image Radio_15.40.50.07U_2.12.50.02_2
10:22.45darkstone[11:20:14] <BigDaDDy> yeah but i just dont want it there :P
10:23.01darkstoneyou DO realise that when you use the android launcher that sense isnt even loaded
10:23.02darkstoneright?
10:23.27darkstoneseriously, people are hating on my build even though i gave them a choice? O_O
10:23.45BigDaDDyyeah but its not froyo
10:23.46Cassi think peopl e just hate bloat :P
10:23.47danibjortheir loss :P
10:23.51darkstonebig deal its not froyo
10:24.05BigDaDDydarkstone: for me it is... i need rtl and its better supported
10:24.11darkstonertl?
10:24.19BigDaDDyright-to-left
10:24.26darkstoneah
10:24.37BigDaDDydarkstone: your builds are very good and of great quality, but why stick with 2.1?
10:24.43voffknur_I like your desire build v4, very stable:)
10:24.45darkstone2.2 is unstable
10:24.53darkstoneim trying to make a stable build
10:24.54Casswith sense ?
10:24.58darkstoneyes
10:25.00Cassk
10:25.21BigDaDDywell, i can't use 2.1 like i dont use wm 6.5
10:25.33voffknur_original froyo 2.2 unstable, or the one for hd2?
10:25.34BigDaDDyand froyo is stable enough tyvm
10:25.36Cassis ther even a 2.2 sense build out there for real android devices ?
10:25.43darkstoneno
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10:25.46darkstoneits hacked up
10:25.49Cassdont think there is
10:25.59Anders_KeisI like the cuurrent Sense Build alot, so thx Darkstone :)
10:26.07darkstonethanks guys :)
10:26.41BigDaDDycan't wait for checking xda hd2 android kitchen threads :P
10:27.21Defiant-darkstone: I like it
10:27.35Defiant-Just installed this morning the latest build and it is very good
10:27.36voffknur_Love eveything that works...:) stable and fast is important:) not new features...
10:27.39BigDaDDywell, i just hate sense anyways :P
10:27.57danibjordarkstone, is it possible to push back the keyboard you used in v3? with arrow buttons
10:28.07darkstonei'll take a look into it
10:28.08danibjoralso, get it rooted?
10:28.14danibjorwould make my day
10:28.25Cassrooted ?
10:28.31danibjorroot permissions
10:28.38darkstonei'll take a look later on today
10:28.52danibjorthere is a rooted desire build out there
10:28.55danibjoron xda
10:29.06danibjorPays-Desire-Sense_v2.0-BS
10:29.32darkstonetries that
10:29.34voffknur_So what is developes next goal?  more stable, gps?
10:29.35Defiant-darkstone: is charging fine in your build?
10:29.36darkstonetried that*
10:29.39darkstoneits unstable
10:29.47danibjorah, ok
10:29.56Defiant-I just noticed that connected to usb it said charging, then after an hour a red popup saying the battery was getting low
10:29.59darkstoneDefiant-: it works if you had charger plugged before you boot haret
10:30.04Defiant-Oh ok!
10:30.05darkstonethe indicators work
10:30.10Defiant-makes sence
10:30.22Defiant-dake
10:30.23darkstonebut charging doesnt really happen unless you put the charger in during boot
10:30.47darkstoneneocore :D
10:30.54darkstoneit runs on my build :p
10:31.00voffknur_would I notice allott of difference if I use rom that support more ram, then used andorid?
10:31.01darkstonejust search marketplace for it
10:31.27darkstonevoffknur_: you should really be able to tell a difference
10:31.32darkstonesince ram is cleared out
10:31.36darkstoneat haret boot
10:32.00darkstoneneocore is pretty fast on the hd2 :D
10:33.01Art-Xheya :-)
10:33.59voffknur_hm, actully like my hd2 more now, "once u go android u never go back", hehe
10:34.12danibjorum, when i launch neocore, it says; your device dies not support Qualcomm accelrated graphics. neocore will shut down.. then it FC o_0
10:34.22darkstoneon desire build?
10:34.28danibjorv4, yes
10:34.36darkstonedid you download from marketplace?
10:34.45darkstoneor did you get it from somewhere else?
10:34.49darkstonethe one on marketplace works fine
10:35.10danibjorupdated it on marketplace, yes
10:35.22voffknur_Ill give it a try, downloading it now
10:35.28Magnusrii also downloaded from marketplace. works fine
10:35.28darkstoneworks for me :S
10:35.34danibjorbut i use the latest cotulla kernel (i think)
10:35.54danibjorshould i use the one in the v4 package instead? or is it the same?
10:35.54Magnusri23.6fps
10:36.14darkstonedanibjor: what one is included with v4? O_o
10:36.19darkstonei never had it installed
10:36.31danibjorkernel*
10:36.39darkstoneok
10:36.44darkstonejust use the one included
10:36.46darkstoneits the same
10:36.53darkstoneMagnusri: i get 25 fps
10:36.54darkstone:D
10:37.03danibjori'll reinstall
10:37.04darkstoneare you running v4?
10:37.06Magnusri>: D
10:37.12Magnusrii'm on v4
10:37.28Art-Xv4 is the most stable and complete I've seen so far
10:37.39Magnusriye
10:37.41voffknur_shazam is a nice app, hope it work on android:)
10:37.44Defiant-darkstone: is turbo mode cured in your latest build?
10:38.07darkstonenah, thats a kernel issue
10:38.43Magnusrii have actually booted 5 times, no turbomode : p
10:39.18Magnusrimight just be luck : p
10:41.18danibjorreinstalled neocore, 24.4 fps :)
10:43.51voffknur_how long does the test take?
10:44.07danibjorunder a minute
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10:44.47voffknur_does it run many time the same vid?
10:44.54voffknur_or its that just me?
10:45.18Magnusriyou must press about an inch above the benchmark btn
10:45.29Magnusrisomething's wrong with the buttons
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10:47.31voffknur_I got 25:)
10:48.09Art-X25.1
10:48.27DomZany diff between tmous and europe Hd2 ?
10:48.39voffknur_bigger flash...
10:49.09DomZI know but with neocore did you observe a diff ?
10:49.35Magnusrishouldn't affect the fps
10:49.38Magnusrii think
10:49.47DomZyes should not
10:50.27Magnusribut i bet that it's limited to 25 fps : p
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10:50.57Art-Xwhich is good : less power consumption
10:51.04DomZwhat is the score of neocore on a droid x ?
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10:51.06Magnusritrue
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10:51.44Magnusriwith this hw, i guess you could make a hiiigh fps x)
10:54.43ElBartoME25.8fps
10:54.44ElBartoMEwow
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10:56.51DomZseems that neocore test only OGL 1.0 ?
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10:58.23DomZand 25 fps seems to be quite bad
10:59.02darkstonenexus one and desire get 26.5
10:59.06DomZbut it's near of the nexus one score (26.7)
10:59.14darkstoneyeah
10:59.19DomZyes but it's bad
10:59.34darkstoneso 25fps isnt suprising, the proc/gpu are same
10:59.36Art-XDomZ: critics! :p
10:59.48BigDaDDywell, isn't it going to get a little better?
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11:00.05DomZAcer Liquid 34.1
11:02.10DomZhttp://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-qualcomm-qx-neocore-BwF.aspx
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11:02.14DomZlooks at the comments
11:02.39SMASEMv4 nust be in froyo base
11:03.10DomZcom'on guy will you say that every day ?
11:03.44DomZmake your own buld if your not happy
11:03.54DomZbuild*
11:04.29DomZ25.9 HTC desire
11:04.31DomZlol
11:04.45SMASEMDomZ how r u again
11:04.57DomZ54.2 fps on Samsung Galaxy S with sound
11:05.03ShadowFoxBiHnice
11:05.13ShadowFoxBiHthe galaxy s has a better gpi
11:05.15ShadowFoxBiHgpu
11:05.25SMASEMDomZ how r u again
11:05.34DomZfine
11:05.41ShadowFoxBiHoh and btw are you guys sure that the hd2 doesnt have standby?
11:05.46SMASEMDomZ hwo r u again
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11:15.42ShadowFoxBiHlol so the morning crew arrives
11:15.57theredundant`715pm here :P
11:16.03ShadowFoxBiHlol its am here
11:16.05theredundant`btw ShadowFoxBiH read logs u had fixed rootfs for dans' image?
11:16.20ShadowFoxBiHyeah i did
11:16.37ShadowFoxBiHblame darkstone i accidentally deleted all my original files putting his desire build on root
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11:17.48theredundant`so
11:17.50theredundant`whats the fix
11:18.37ShadowFoxBiHno clue someone sent me a link for a rootfs
11:18.42ShadowFoxBiHforgot who it was now
11:18.53theredundant`i mean, whats the fix
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11:18.55theredundant`:P
11:18.55ShadowFoxBiHgot it off the android dev channel
11:18.56Alex[sp3dev]phh, here?
11:19.09theredundant`mmm okay
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11:19.10canthonyzahiya
11:19.13theredundant`for froyo specifically?
11:19.21ShadowFoxBiHi think so
11:19.26theredundantwhat does it fix
11:19.30canthonyzaI am getting gsod with Cotulla's latest zImage... anyone else got this?
11:19.35theredundantcanthonyza; nope
11:19.42ShadowFoxBiHapps work right and work full screen
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11:19.49theredundantmmm okay
11:19.51ShadowFoxBiHalthough with latest zimage apps work fine
11:19.55theredundantnow i need that :P
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11:20.01theredundantdoes
11:20.13canthonyzahmmm okay
11:20.17ShadowFoxBiHgsensor and prox work as well
11:20.23theredundantyeah'
11:20.29ShadowFoxBiHalthough for no standy it sure seems to work
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11:20.39ShadowFoxBiHsince it drained 1% after an hour and a half
11:21.07theredundantwow
11:21.09theredundantthats not bad lol
11:21.18ShadowFoxBiHyeah i was like wtf
11:21.21theredundant50% batt lasts 1hour
11:21.22ShadowFoxBiHand it doesnt have standby
11:21.42ShadowFoxBiHstill at 94%
11:21.51ShadowFoxBiHstarted off with 100% 3 hours ago
11:21.59ShadowFoxBiHa bit of heavy usage and standby ever since
11:22.36ShadowFoxBiHeven with pandora running for 45 minutes battery drained 2%
11:22.54theredundantu srs
11:22.57ShadowFoxBiHyeah
11:22.58ShadowFoxBiHno joke
11:22.59theredundantdamn.
11:23.06theredundantsetup?
11:23.18ShadowFoxBiHusing dan's build with cotulla's latest image
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11:23.31canthonyzaShadowFoxBiH: how do you mean no standby?
11:23.32SXForcePower management hasn't been implemented, right?
11:23.37ShadowFoxBiHyeah
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11:23.49theredundantmann
11:23.49ShadowFoxBiHwell technically only the screen turns off when you lock it
11:23.57theredundantur android must have sedatives
11:23.58ShadowFoxBiHther phone doesnt go into standby
11:24.03theredundantcoz mine drains every 3mintues
11:24.15theredundant1% per 3 min
11:24.18ShadowFoxBiHdown to 93% a
11:24.29ShadowFoxBiH1 hour 45 minutes
11:24.43theredundantmmm
11:24.57canthonyzaatleast it charges via Android :-P
11:25.02ShadowFoxBiHyeah
11:25.37ShadowFoxBiHhappy to have gsensor back though
11:25.43SXForceCan anyone tell if Power management (CPU usage) works already?
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11:25.49ShadowFoxBiHi dont think it does
11:25.56ShadowFoxBiHat least it doesnt according to the wiki
11:25.59SXForceYou don't need to tell me that the battery is working :P
11:26.04canthonyzacheck wiki
11:26.14SXForcethere is no line for that on wiki
11:26.21SXForcejust battery charging
11:26.26ShadowFoxBiHhttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Status
11:26.30ShadowFoxBiHpower management
11:26.32SXForcei want to know if the CPU is ajusted
11:26.34ShadowFoxBiHright before battery
11:26.57sowedShadowFoxBiH: its very curious... ur hd2 battery with android is better than mine with windows :D
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11:27.16ShadowFoxBiHlol what radio you using?
11:27.23SXForceyes, that's not quite clear. The wiki... does frequency scaling work ok not :p
11:27.31theredundantmines 2.50
11:27.32theredundanturs?
11:27.36SXForceit it supported, but does that mean it works
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11:27.37ShadowFoxBiH2.12
11:27.40ShadowFoxBiHyeah
11:27.46sowed2.10
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11:27.54theredundant2.10*
11:27.55SXForceoh, i think I have to update then? :p iam at 2.10
11:28.01theredundanti heard 2.12 drains fast
11:28.16ShadowFoxBiH2.12 runs fine actually saves battery
11:28.19ShadowFoxBiHaccording to most
11:28.31theredundantword
11:28.33theredundantill give it a shot
11:28.34theredundantsoon
11:28.40sowedill try this one
11:29.11ShadowFoxBiHoh and its a good idea to not use live wallpapers
11:29.17ShadowFoxBiHsaves battery dramatically
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11:29.33SXForcein the desire build, it has been turned off by default
11:29.39SXForce(active backgrounds)
11:29.42ShadowFoxBiHi dont touch those at all
11:29.52ShadowFoxBiHsense on hd2 is like vista on xp
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11:32.35SXForceyeah, just stick to the default android interface. It's clean and fast.
11:32.51DomZyou really should talk on #htc-linux-chat :)
11:33.03canthonyzawas just about to say yea :P
11:33.26canthonyzaDomZ: has anyone been able to test BT yesterday on latest git changes?
11:34.20DomZwith GIT I'm not sure, but at least it seems to works with last zImage from cottula ...
11:34.35canthonyzayeah, was able to pair and send file from laptop
11:34.38ShadowFoxBiHaudio through bt works?
11:35.04DomZI need to talk with darkstone about that, I don't know which zImage he use in his build
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11:38.11ShadowFoxBiHanybody have an idea why tethering fails on froyo?
11:39.29canthonyzacheck via adb ShadowFoxBiH
11:39.51ShadowFoxBiHalright will have to do that later
11:40.07ShadowFoxBiHstill testing battery out
11:40.34LSnakequestion.. i want a loudest speaker on the android hd2...
11:40.51LSnakehow can i do that?
11:40.57ShadowFoxBiHturn up the volume?
11:41.12LSnakethe volume its at maximun. but not enoght
11:41.20canthonyzatry Market
11:41.31LSnakeenough
11:41.39LSnakereally? oh. name of the app?
11:42.18canthonyzadont know, currently volume is restricted by kernel I am assuming, so if there aint app out there then what you have right now is as best as it gets
11:42.48LSnakeok.. im searching some apps
11:42.54LSnakebut thanks for the idea
11:43.52LSnakemaybe someone launch a volume app.
11:46.55Magnusriok, just switched to cotullas last zImage : ) locking seems better now
11:47.42canthonyzanice to see youtube working :)
11:47.58ShadowFoxBiHyoutube has worked for a while now
11:48.13Magnusrihehe
11:48.15canthonyzak...hasnt worked on my build
11:48.22ShadowFoxBiHwhat build you using?
11:48.37canthonyzai customised a N1 build
11:48.43canthonyzafroyo 2.2
11:48.49ShadowFoxBiHdan's build?
11:48.54canthonyzanope
11:48.59canthonyzafrom Nexus One forum
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11:49.11ShadowFoxBiHeh then i dont know dan's build has had working youtube for a while now
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11:49.38canthonyzayeah i recently made some changes to my rootfs, so it could be cos of that..
11:49.56ShadowFoxBiHyeah
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11:50.18edangelhello to everyone..
11:50.57LSnakei find the instructions but hate adb on my win7x64. http://android-simplicity.blogspot.com/2009/09/how-to-12-increase-max-volume.html
11:52.56canthonyzause terminal emulator :P
11:53.31LSnakeuff.... :(
11:53.34LSnakei will try
11:53.56LSnaketell cotulla to raise the level in his next build please XD jejeje. for everyone. :P
11:54.13ShadowFoxBiHhaha
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11:55.02LSnakeits necessary for everyone :P.. dont you think?
11:55.12ShadowFoxBiHlol i guess time to adb
11:55.33danibjorLSnake, thats somthing darkstone could add in his next android build - nothing kernel related
11:55.43LSnakei was in the car yesterday. and i put the call in speakerphone. i cant hear anything :(
11:55.46LSnakeahh thats true
11:56.09LSnakefor sure.. i will tell hin when gets onlinE :D
11:56.10ShadowFoxBiHok adb time
11:56.34voffknurinstalling apps to sd would be nice...
11:56.40LSnakeok. .next time. i gtg.. time to sleep here. 5.56am D:
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12:13.16huggy_72hi
12:14.24BigDaDDyi see mms isn't working :P
12:14.50ShadowFoxBiHit isd
12:14.55BigDaDDyhmm
12:14.59BigDaDDythen i probably need to configure it
12:15.04ShadowFoxBiHmine works fine
12:15.13ShadowFoxBiHjust got an mms about 15 minutes ago
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12:18.57edangelmms dont work for me too
12:19.03BigDaDDywell
12:19.05BigDaDDyi configured it
12:19.09BigDaDDybut it doesn't work
12:19.12edangelhaha
12:19.15BigDaDDyi press the 'download' button
12:19.19BigDaDDyand nothing happens
12:19.54edangelit depends propably on network operator that cannot take connection data to send
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12:21.47canthonyzaBigDaDDy: did you have to manually configure it? it should have imported from winmo
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12:23.58edangelprobably has to do something with WAP settings
12:24.57edangelif it cannot installed automatically from network operator then if we have to set it up manually?
12:25.00edangelbut how?
12:25.06theredundantbring this to #htc-linux-chat guys
12:25.20edangelyou re right
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12:34.00gauner1986hi
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12:34.53Art-Xhey gauner1986 :-)
12:35.21manusfreedomhi
12:35.28manusfreedomlast build rox...
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12:37.37Art-Xgauner1986: even though power managament is not fixed yet, I noticed that the battery is getting far less hot since the latest build, any explanation?
12:38.19Cassgauner1986, had added his special mini fairies to gently blow cold air on the battery
12:38.26DomZAndroid will freeze after a call ends.
12:38.32DomZis it still true ?
12:38.47gauner1986lol
12:38.53Art-X:-)
12:38.58gauner1986let off your battery case
12:39.03gauner1986-5°C at least
12:39.10gauner1986:P
12:39.30Art-Xow.. I was keeping in emerged in oil.. that's bad?
12:39.35manusfreedomDomZ: no
12:39.54DomZok, I haven't the problem anymore, I update wiki
12:40.00manusfreedomDomZ: I use Android Froyo since 3 days without any problem
12:41.39manusfreedomgauner1986: there is a way to get a bigger dmesg?
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12:42.11gauner1986manusfreedom: modify the kernel and enlarge the buffer for dmesg
12:42.13gauner1986^^
12:42.14manusfreedomgauner1986: because when I do a dmesg, I don't get all from start, but only the last 1h
12:42.35manusfreedomgauner1986: ok I will do that whin git will be update
12:42.51manusfreedomgauner1986: and I will try some tune on ts
12:43.07theredundantShadowFoxBiHs' battery life is amazing
12:43.08theredundant:|
12:43.12manusfreedomgauner1986: do you know shere is the buffer in source...
12:43.33manusfreedom*w
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12:44.08gauner1986no, dunno
12:44.16manusfreedomgauner1986: can we setup more memory in haret, or 256MB is the limit for us?
12:44.27manusfreedomgauner1986: ok I will search
12:44.44gauner1986manusfreedom: not sure, i think the 256mb limit was done for stability
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12:51.40manusfreedomgauner1986: for info http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/LOG_BUF_SHIFT.html , and we use 17=128KB
12:52.29DomZfound that : http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0110.0/0186.html but it's may be totaly useless :p
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12:53.25manusfreedomDomZ: in our code: #define __LOG_BUF_LEN     (1 << CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT)
12:53.40DomZahah ok
12:53.44manusfreedomso I will try 20 when I can
12:53.53manusfreedom20=1024KB
12:55.29DomZI hope that Cotulla will provide a diff today, then we could play with netripper autobuilds :p
12:55.39gauner1986yay
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13:08.59HD2_NoobHey :)
13:09.27HD2_NoobVideo rec works with ancorder ;)
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13:11.16HD2_NoobUsing desirebuild v4 ;)
13:13.50adiophHD2_Noob: do you have ancorder?
13:14.01adiophcant download it on marktplace
13:14.37DomZyeap me too
13:15.16adiophplease upload ancorder, please
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13:23.55manusfreedomIf anyone can help: Cotulla did the ts driver, did he it from inverse enginering? or did he find some documentation, because if anyone know, did we have only coordinate and pressure (on/off)? or did we have other information like size of the finger (pressure resolution), noise level,... from the device/controller? (I think we have it under WM)
13:24.44HD2_NoobCant upload it xD currently at work... and dont know how to upload a market app sry
13:25.11travhey what are u guys working on today? =D
13:25.41DomZflashlight is no more working
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13:27.10manusfreedomfor info cam recording under froyo doesn't work at all (included app or ancorder)
13:27.10HD2_NoobFlash never worked for me -.-
13:27.48DomZit has worked before
13:27.55DomZfor sure
13:28.04manusfreedomDomZ: in froyo it's work for photo
13:28.17manusfreedomit works*
13:28.40DomZusing last cotulla zImage (zImage.rar) ?
13:28.51danibjoranyone else get robotic voices on the phone with desire v4?
13:29.21danibjorcrap.. it worked like a charm last night on desirebeta1 with the lastest kernel image
13:29.21Cassnope
13:29.39travnope mine sounds perfect =P
13:29.47DomZvideo works in ancorder, I confirm
13:31.20travim having problems with adding the medium and small weather and small clock widget tho >=(
13:31.21adiophDomz: please upload ancorder
13:31.21manusfreedomDomZ: yes
13:31.44DomZadioph: I can't it's DL using android market, dunno how to extract it from the phone
13:32.12adiophtoo bad. i think using adb you can copy it?
13:32.30DomZI don't even know where the applicaiton is stored :p
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13:32.50manusfreedomin froyo, during call the sound send by mic is no good (too loud some time, or with much noise), it's only me or not?
13:32.50HD2_NoobHow to root desire v4 xD
13:32.50gauner1986"/data/apps/"
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13:34.14adiophlike adb pull ancorder.apk /data/apps/
13:34.33HD2_NoobCant access /data/ here -.-
13:34.40kreckdarkstone do u have any link for advance task killer
13:36.00Cassits in marketplace
13:36.42edangelis there a newest rootfs?am i missing something?
13:36.50edangeli read that it fixes data
13:37.42HD2_NoobData works here xD
13:37.51DomZusing abd shell I can access to data directory
13:38.00HD2_NoobKk thx
13:38.04DomZbut how to copy the file to other place ?
13:38.13kreckbtw cass how to set apn at android, try to set apn manually at setting but when I press it become black screen or I need to use adb?
13:38.20DomZI'm a n00b in linux ;)
13:38.36edangeli am using dan's froyo build with latest cottula zimage..
13:38.53adiophDomz: i think it adb pull filename.apk  /data/apps/
13:38.54edangelis there something new that i messed to try?
13:39.22DomZI am in adb shell
13:40.33DomZah I see what you mean adioph
13:41.22danibjori'll pull out taskkiller
13:41.48theredundantso who would vouch desire latest better than froyo
13:43.32danibjorwho wanted advanced taskkiller?
13:43.34Art-Xme
13:43.54adiophi want ancorder. lol
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13:44.35danibjori'll pull that one too :P
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13:44.49danibjorArt-X accept the filetransfer
13:45.08edangelmy idea is...get rid of winmo and boot up 2 androids..dan's one and darkstone one together..!
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13:45.20kreckme wanna task killer
13:45.22kreck:D
13:45.39Art-Xdanibjor, one moment then.. auto ignore
13:45.44danibjorkreck acept
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13:45.46danibjoraccept
13:45.50kreckI did
13:46.02hypersonicxtask killer in the android market
13:46.07hypersonicxjust search ATK
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13:46.13kreckbah failed
13:47.57kreckseem I cannt download here, always failed :(
13:48.42danibjorpm me your email
13:48.46kreckbtw anyone can tell me how to set up data with gprs? manually from android or from adb?
13:48.56Art-Xdanibjor, try again plz
13:49.13BigDaDDyhmm
13:49.22BigDaDDyi copied through android some stuff to my sd card
13:49.28DomZin shell how to copy to sdcard ?
13:49.32BigDaDDybut when i look in the file manager, nothing's changed
13:49.37hypersonicxto set up 3G go to network settings and click on APN
13:49.41BigDaDDydo i need to restart android to see the new files? :(
13:50.24Art-Xdanibjor, hmm firewalled here at work
13:50.46danibjorDomZ, adb push myFile.txt /sdcard
13:50.54HD2_NoobUse adb file explorer, works better than shell, search this tool with google its for windows
13:51.08DomZthanks nice
13:51.25HD2_Noob;)
13:52.36theredundantso who would vouch desire latest better than froyo!
13:52.42theredundantdang i thought this was chat
13:52.43theredundantmy bad
13:52.50adiophdanibjor: adioph@yahoo.com
13:52.52adiophthanks
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13:55.42kreckthat weird I go to network setting, then click access point names there only came up with black screen
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13:56.33HD2_NoobPress windows button xD
13:56.38manusfreedomgauner1986: where is the /etc/network/interfaces in android, i search with find but nothing
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13:57.40strollerJust to report, got Robotic voice in a call (I do have Miri ROM), note that this was after few "normal" calls.
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13:58.01gauner1986manusfreedom: there is none.. network setup is done via android ui or in init.rc
13:58.18HD2_NoobCya later
13:58.25Art-X~seen Netripper
13:58.27aptnetripper is currently on #htc-linux. Has said a total of 235 messages. Is idling for 15h 13m 9s, last said: ':P'.
13:59.35manusfreedomgauner1986: ok thanks
14:00.28NetRipperArt-X, sup?
14:00.56DomZanCorder is a zip file :)
14:01.08Art-XHeya NetRipper, preparing a mirror for your autobuilds
14:01.10danibjorapk's are zip files
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14:01.21DomZah ok lol
14:01.25Art-X100Mbit datacenter link
14:01.27NetRipperi dont really need a mirror for autobuilds
14:01.41DomZadioph: still wants anCorder ?
14:01.51NetRippermore for the files that are her: http://oe.netripper.com/files/
14:02.01Art-Xchecking
14:02.10NetRipperif you could mirror the ubuntu one, i can take that one off
14:02.32gauner1986NetRipper: have you had a look at the proximity patch by parad0xua?
14:02.48gauner1986to see if it is commitable? :)
14:03.04NetRipperi haven't see a patch
14:03.19gauner1986http://trash.eneqe.com/Leo/board-htcleo-microp.c
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14:04.34ElBartoMEhi
14:04.48NetRipperthats not a patch, thats a fil :)
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14:05.13gauner1986"patch"
14:05.14gauner1986:)
14:07.25NetRipperlets take a quick look
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14:08.27AxionktHi
14:09.01NetRipperthis is not a patch i can work with
14:09.25NetRipperthe file differs too much from current git base
14:09.35NetRipperunless you can tell me what commit it is based upon
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14:10.02DomZParaD0XUA said that he adds a lot of things in this file which was missing
14:10.14DomZand that the file was now very clean
14:11.15NetRipperhe also removed some things
14:11.21DomZyeap
14:11.27NetRipperi want to make sure it's based upon the latest git
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14:11.32NetRipperit's be a waste losting stuff
14:11.33NetRipperlosing*
14:11.47NetRipper- *   - Lightsensor
14:11.48NetRipper- *   - Headset remotekeys
14:11.48NetRipper- *   - G-sensor
14:11.48NetRipper- *   - Proximity (capella cm3602)
14:11.48NetRipper+ *   - G-sensor
14:11.50NetRipper+ *   - Proximity
14:12.01NetRipperremoves lightsensor, headset
14:12.06DomZbut it's easier for Cotulla to make the diff
14:12.53DomZbecause cotulla already include Parad0XUA changes in his local sources
14:12.54gauner1986NetRipper: hm.. not sure on this one.. i think he had to rewrite a lot of stuff.. maybe it's good to talk to him later.. he said this file/patch is in a pretty clean state
14:13.03gauner1986NetRipper: lightsensor doesn't work as it is
14:13.14NetRipperyes i read that
14:13.27NetRipperstill doesn't tell me enough
14:14.54DomZmay be Cotulla wants more feedbacks on battery before commit whole things on git
14:15.03DomZbecause battery is a sensible part
14:15.33NetRipperlet's wait for the actual developers instead of trying to figure out what they think :)
14:15.49DomZyeap
14:15.53manusfreedomDomZ: I think we need a bigger buffer for log battery
14:16.18gauner1986hm
14:16.19gauner1986true
14:17.19Art-XOk Netripper, I'll mirror ur whole files section
14:17.34NetRipperoki
14:17.38DomZhey volume works on radio ...
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14:26.49DomZfm radio sensitivity is really weird
14:26.58DomZI lost a lot of radio stations
14:28.28DomZback on windows and let's see if winmo app is better
14:28.49Cassdunno why but when i just tried radio on andorid i smiled .. never use the thing on winmo too :)
14:29.14DomZ:)
14:30.43DomZalso winmo give me 5 bars in HSDPA, while I only have one or two when I am in Android at the same place !
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14:33.29clayboytried altering rootfs for froyo build no dice for full screen
14:33.56DomZsame sensibility on winmo fm radio application :)
14:33.57hypersonicxthere going to need a whole new froyo build to get full screen to work
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14:34.29hypersonicxthe current froyo build came from Nexus One which isnt 800-480
14:34.39clayboyyeah i got that part
14:35.21hypersonicxthey need a current android phone with froyo with 800-480 and then build off the rom from that phone
14:35.36DomZandroid has strange side effect on winmo :p
14:35.42clayboyi got it to scale to 800 by altering the rootfs but wasnt documenting it so i can't remember what i did... dam sleep... human error
14:35.53hypersonicxLOL
14:36.32clayboywhere's shadow at... he need to find his dam rootfs
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14:44.13Parad0XUAhypersonicx what do you mean N1 is not 800x480?
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14:44.49clayboyitsnot native 800x480
14:44.56Parad0XUAwhat is it?
14:45.10clayboy6x3 something
14:45.24Parad0XUA392x653
14:45.30clayboyyeah
14:45.31BigDaDDyyuck
14:45.33Parad0XUAyeah but from OS point of view it's 800x480
14:45.38clayboythat's why the froyo build is not full screen
14:46.03Defiant-Well the screen is 392 x 653 in a N1
14:46.06Parad0XUAwhen is it not in full screen?
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14:46.13clayboyon apps
14:46.18Parad0XUAname one
14:46.20Defiant-the raster maybe 480 x 800
14:46.23BigDaDDyDoodle Jump
14:46.26clayboypandora
14:46.34Parad0XUAk I'll look at it...
14:46.36clayboyfacebook chat
14:46.36BigDaDDyDoodle Jump isn't fullscreen
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14:46.38canthonyzasay wha? but N1 hw specs says reso is 480 x 800
14:46.44clayboyi tryied messing with the rootfs but no luck
14:47.01Defiant-canthonyza: yes it does
14:47.09Defiant-the screen is that resolution
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14:47.36Defiant-but the pentile display cannot do that high
14:47.41Defiant-as its 2 pix not 3 pix
14:47.49DomZParad0XUA: is your work on board-htcleo-microp.c file is based on the latest git ?
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14:48.08Parad0XUADomZ uuum... possibly :)
14:48.11clayboyParad0XUA: that's where the problem lies in the rootfs
14:48.28canthonyzahmmm okay, so setting mddi.width to 392 and mddi.height to 653 should do the trick?
14:48.30Parad0XUAclaybot as far as I remember one thing you can set in build.prop is pixel density
14:48.34DomZlol ok so not sure :p
14:48.43canthonyzahmmm, will try that
14:48.48Parad0XUADomZ why?
14:49.04DomZNetRipper ask the question
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14:49.59Parad0XUADomZ I see
14:50.03clayboyParad0XUA well have a go sir ill check build.prop
14:50.23NeoFluxParad0XUA: You working on Light Sensor now or~?
14:50.38DomZcan someone try the flashlight on darkstone v4 ?
14:50.39Defiant-From the specs you get (480*800/2)*2/3 + (480*800)*1/3 = 256,000 pixels which is less than 384,000 you expect at 480x800
14:51.30Defiant-Images are scaled down on the N1 to match the addressable area of 392x653
14:51.31Parad0XUANeoFlux right now I'm too sleepy to do anything :) need to get some coffee and get some work done... dont wanna get fired :)
14:51.59Parad0XUADefiant nice... should also improve performance if we remove downscaling
14:52.16Parad0XUADefiant setting mddi.width and height should do the trick?
14:52.49Defiant-well the *docs* say it uses hardware to scale up to 480x800 so you could try and target the native screen then you wont scale
14:53.03Parad0XUAlets seeee
14:53.07Defiant-but compared to the droid the N1 looks blurry
14:55.08NetRipperParad0XUA, against what git did you base your microp file?
14:55.21NeoFluxAny one know how well dan's build would work if I used darkstones zimage from last night on it?
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14:55.37clayboyhopefully we can get that scaling sorted out that why i like dan's build its light weight and 124mb memory avail on boot vs Darks build with 78 sense off
14:56.05clayboythough all credit to Darkstone for a nice build
14:56.24Parad0XUANetRipper ugh... I just realized that I applied Cotulla's diff before dcordes merged it into git
14:56.59NetRipperyour latest microp isn't merged into git
14:57.00NetRipperafaik
14:57.06Parad0XUANetRipper nope
14:57.22NetRipperso what git was that based on?
14:57.25NetRipperor none?
14:57.31Parad0XUANetRipper lets say none
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14:57.34Parad0XUANetRipper you want proximity in git?
14:57.35danibjorthis is wierd.. i get bad sound quality on calls when i recieve them - but not when i make the call on desire v4
14:57.37hunterkllhaha ooops
14:57.47hunterklltold t-mo i was putting android on my hd2... backpedaled a LOT there. ;)
14:57.51NetRipperthe file is changed heavily.. and it seems it removes features
14:58.04hunterkll'no of course it didn't modify the internal memory.. battery pull puts you right back in winmo... '
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14:58.17Parad0XUANetRipper yeah... I removed lightsensor support until I figure it out
14:58.58NetRipperand headset?
14:59.21Parad0XUANetRipper yeah... Cotulla's headset driver is not in microp
14:59.31NetRipperit is in git though
14:59.37hunterkllused the latest cot kernel as a daily driver for 6 hours
14:59.49Promswhat need to work Charging  the battery?
14:59.50Parad0XUAit is? hmm
14:59.52hunterkllwas nice.... had to reboot once because i tried to answer a call over bluetooth headset while on my bike without thinking :)
15:00.25Parad0XUANetRipper let me check
15:00.44NetRipperParad0XUA, http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcleo-microp.c;h=a997e8e3840ba897e8d0371c2c4932d2eb7e3153;hb=0eed70ab96a3c21ecaa2e027deab0b8c38294b56
15:00.47BigDaDDyis there a merge planned? :P
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15:01.00hunterkllyou're a merge :)
15:01.22BigDaDDy:P
15:01.27NetRipperhunterkll, maybe #htc-linux-chat is a better place
15:01.42Parad0XUANetRipper linuxtogo is sloooowwww
15:01.54hunterkllNetRipper: possibly. ;)
15:01.57NetRippercomplain to its owners :p
15:02.06Parad0XUANetRipper :P
15:02.18hunterkllI propose moving back to CVS on hh.org
15:02.19hunterkll:P
15:02.32hunterkllOr getting in contact with france and having him install git....
15:02.33Parad0XUANetRipper see that #if 0 on line 108? :)
15:03.07Parad0XUAand there's also board-htcleo-hds.c
15:03.10NetRipperhm ok
15:03.36NetRipperso what was the issue with lightsensor then?
15:03.40NetRipperthat it had to be removed
15:04.04Parad0XUAbut ok... to do it right let me do a hard reset, pull and add add everything so that it makes sense :)
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15:04.47Parad0XUANetRipper what's the point of having parts that don't work and possibly even won't?
15:04.57NetRipperParad0XUA, not much
15:05.05NetRipperi just want a justification for removing it :)
15:05.29Parad0XUANetRipper I'm not removing it completely... I will be putting it back once I get some parts of it working
15:05.40Parad0XUANetRipper ok lets do this :)
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15:06.02Parad0XUANetRipper I'll do a hard reset and will just add a proximity to microp... possibly will comment out stuff that doesn't work
15:06.34Parad0XUANetRipper sounds good?
15:06.44NetRipperi dont mind pushing this to git, i just needed to confirm it's ok and that its the latest
15:06.51NetRippernot _accidentally_ removing stuff
15:06.52NetRipper:)
15:07.39NetRipperi'm checking if it compiles now
15:08.50NetRipperParad0XUA, ok do it your way :) it doesnt compile
15:09.18Parad0XUANetRipper ok... I'll ping you when it's ready
15:09.19DomZlol
15:09.28NetRipperprobably easy to fix but you know the context, i dont
15:09.28NetRipper:)
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15:09.47Parad0XUANetRipper :)
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15:13.14Parad0XUADomZ :P
15:13.23DomZyep ?
15:13.35Parad0XUAnope :P
15:13.38DomZlol
15:15.37hunterkllhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=361182&d=1279264381  is this legit?
15:15.41hunterklljtag pinout
15:16.46Art-Xoeh nice.. HD has jtag
15:16.58DomZof course it has
15:18.44hunterkllhuh
15:18.49hunterkllbcm4329 datasheet
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15:19.48hunterkll.... that'll be the day... it supports two a2dp devices at once
15:20.05megatonshi, i am getting Failed to find cpu subsys errors when running my own android build on the hd2
15:20.08hunterklloh, it's a retarded marketing datasheet
15:20.09hunterkllnevermind
15:20.10DomZwhere did you see that ?
15:20.21megatonswhen this happens, android reboots
15:20.24hunterkllDomZ: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622377
15:20.29megatonsany idea why this happens?
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15:22.42megatonsanyone?
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15:40.28Parad0XUANetRipper here you go http://trash.eneqe.com/Leo/proximity_diff.diff
15:42.09NetRipperta
15:43.33Parad0Xthis nick is registered :(
15:43.37NetRippercompiling
15:43.40gauner1986wtf
15:43.56Parad0Xgauner1986?
15:44.07NetRipperlol lots of warnings in microp
15:44.08gauner1986someone registered your nickname?
15:44.18NetRipperi'll take that for granted for now ;)
15:45.43Parad0XNetRipper yeah :\
15:46.26phhToAsTcfh: ?
15:46.30Parad0XI guess someone registered it before me so I have to use Parad0XUA
15:46.42ElBartoMEgonna register mine now Oo
15:47.03phhdid anyone got this error at some point:
15:47.09phharch/arm/mach-msm/avs_hw.S:75: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `fmrx r3,fpexc'
15:47.10phh?
15:47.33phhand fixed it with another way than disabling avs
15:47.38NetRipperyep
15:47.43NetRipperthere's a commit in our git
15:47.44NetRipperthat fixes it
15:47.52phhin linuxtogo ?
15:47.54NetRipperyes
15:47.57phhok
15:47.58phhthanks
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15:48.17PromsWe need logs battery?
15:48.46Parad0XUAProms wut?
15:48.47Promsdmesg log
15:49.00NetRipperphh, the fix only works on processors with fpu
15:49.04NetRipperhttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=f58fe83ca6c3c63e38e8ffd47c3cf8e484644da5
15:49.08NetRipperthis is neon-specific
15:49.21phhit's for a qsd8250 :p
15:49.22phhthanks
15:49.27NetRipperok
15:49.57phhyeah works fine
15:50.01NetRipperoki
15:50.21PromsParad0XUA I grab the logs with complete relaxation. 2 times.
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15:50.30phhfunny I don't have the problem in idle-v7
15:50.53Parad0XUAProms sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about
15:51.16phhok I don't have the same idle-v7 at all
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15:51.59NetRipperhehe
15:52.47NetRipperParad0XUA, can you sum up what your microp fixes/changes? fixes proximity?
15:52.58NetRipperfor commit msg
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15:54.56NetRipperhtcleo: microp: fix proximity and g-sensor, disables broken lightsensor
15:54.59NetRipper?
15:55.27Parad0XUANetRipper yeah... just adding proximity support + some code cleanup
15:55.37DomZhpin ?
15:55.42Parad0XUAg-sensor was fine
15:55.45NetRipperk
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15:55.54hegemoOnhello
15:56.01Parad0XUAhpin not important... it was never working so w/e :)
15:56.16Parad0XUAlightsensor is going to be a pain in the ass :(
15:56.21Parad0XUAif at all possible
15:56.28NetRipperwhy?
15:56.59NetRipperLOL
15:57.01Parad0XUAthere's no INT for it... I feel like microp takes care of it
15:57.05CIA-8htc-linux: no.email> 1279554825 +0200 htc-msm-2.6.32 * rv2.6.29-38110-g27643a3 /arch/arm/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
15:57.05CIA-8htc-linux: htcleo: microp: add support for proximity, disables broken lightsensor
15:57.05CIA-8htc-linux: Lightsensor implementation is currently broken. This is disabled until it has
15:57.05CIA-8htc-linux: been fixed. In the meantime the proximity sensor functionality has been added.
15:57.08NetRipperSending updates to CIA.. + done.
15:57.11NetRipperrofl.
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15:57.31NetRipperaha
15:57.34Parad0XUAhehe :)
15:57.37fakkeranyone else have compass issues?
15:57.49NetRipperautobuild will start in 3 mins
15:57.51Parad0XUAso you basically just set a flag and microp automagically handles brightness
15:57.56NetRipperah
15:58.02NeoFluxCan't get that | key to work :/
15:58.06NetRipperunless you disable the flag
15:58.11NetRipperand then you can set brightness manually
15:58.17fakkerand has Cotulla put changes to git?
15:58.22Parad0XUAsetting it manually works just fine
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15:58.42NetRipperin winmo we're also able to read out the lightsensor value
15:58.48NetRipperalthough maybe that's polling
15:58.51NetRipperinstead of via irq
15:59.00Parad0XUANetRipper oh we are?! that's a good news
15:59.07NetRipperthere's a lightsensor sdk
15:59.12NetRipperthat gives you light strength values
15:59.22Parad0XUANetRipper awesome... so polling it is then
16:01.37NetRipperParad0XUA, http://www.koushikdutta.com/search/label/Sensor%20API see 2nd and 3rd posts
16:02.12Parad0XUANetRipper nice
16:04.22NeoFlux....
16:05.04lpsi2000[A]is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 120 minutes
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16:06.07Parad0XUANetRipper have to learn C# :) looks pretty
16:06.16NetRipperlol
16:06.25NetRipperit's what i earn my $$ with
16:06.25NetRipper;)
16:06.34DomZC# is great, I use it everyday :)
16:07.53gauner1986hmpf... we're the #1 of heat in germany again... :(
16:08.06Parad0XUANetRiper oh nice :) PHP is what I earn my $$ with :(
16:08.10gauner1986i like java more in fact :P
16:08.15gauner1986but c# is also nice
16:08.50NetRipperjava is my secondary language
16:09.02fakkerthen Dutch? :P
16:09.09NetRipperthat's my 8th or so
16:09.10gauner1986:D
16:09.10NetRipper:P
16:09.38fakkeri can talk ios
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16:10.10clayboyslaps fakker for filthy mouth
16:10.19fakkeri want the one with the bigger gb's
16:10.56DomZ#htc-linux-chat :)
16:11.06NetRipperthere's no devtalk :P
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16:11.35NetRipperios, isn't that the new windows with all the bugs?
16:11.36NetRipper:)
16:11.54DomZWinME
16:12.00fakkercisco ios, not apple :p
16:12.08NetRipperfair enough
16:12.13fakkerthey stole both names - iphone and ios
16:12.24NetRippersue them
16:12.28fakkeri will
16:12.31NetRippermr jobs will love you for it
16:12.32fakkeryou watchin?
16:12.39NetRipperyou recording?
16:12.42fakkeryup
16:12.44fakkerdone
16:12.47NetRipperi'll watch
16:12.52fakkeruploaded
16:12.59NetRipperfaps
16:13.02fakker:D
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16:15.56DomZNetRipper: still building ?
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16:16.44NetRipperdunno, check the site
16:16.47fakkerhttp://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/
16:16.48fakkerhttp://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/zImage-20100719_180001-htcleo-usbhost
16:16.48NetRipperif the images are there, it's done ;)
16:16.51fakker2 are there
16:16.58NetRipperthen the 3rd is building
16:17.10NetRipperhttp://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/buildlog_20100719_180001.txt ;)
16:17.22NetRipperit's realtime
16:17.35fakkerthis is just straight from linuxtogo git?
16:17.41DomZyes
16:17.41NetRipperyes
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16:18.15DomZwould love to fix those warnings, I hates them :p
16:18.46fakkeri got work in 4 hours
16:18.52fakkerwhich games will i play today
16:19.20eugenbLOL
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16:30.33crgquestion on froyo build... has anyone had the data store explode on install?  I can't seem to get past this
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16:45.29gauner1986okay.. it's time for a cool beer in the garden now
16:45.44Parad0XUAgauner1986 bastard
16:46.05clayboygauner1986: wireless n still working ?
16:46.08gauner1986:D
16:46.28gauner1986clayboy: cotulla has it disabled on his build
16:47.07clayboygauner1986: okay... your free to go water you plants =)
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16:47.39gauner1986already sitting outside :)
16:50.17SamanthaMarquezwhat beer do you germans drink these days :P
16:51.02gauner1986i like diebels alt and becks gold ;)
16:51.23SamanthaMarqueznot too bad ;)
16:51.43gauner1986i live near the city where the diebels brewery resides
16:51.50gauner1986already worked there as a child
16:52.16gauner1986getting a crate of beer for free every month
16:52.17gauner1986:D
16:52.24SamanthaMarquezi live near the heineken brewery
16:52.41gauner1986heineken is also nice
16:52.52Jiggsyuk
16:52.54Jiggs:)
16:53.05Jiggsguinness!
16:53.14fakkermy cousin used to work for heineken in NL
16:53.24Jiggsif i'm in germany, i like erdinger weissbier
16:53.37gauner1986the classic :P
16:53.45fakkerstella artois! typical uk thug/wife beater drink
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16:53.52Jiggsat home (ireland) it has to be delicious guinness
16:53.57gauner1986yeah
16:54.05gauner1986i like guiness pretty much
16:54.07fakkerJiggs, it tastes different in ireland tho
16:54.10gauner1986but it's very expensive here
16:54.10gauner1986:D
16:54.15fakkeri can drink it there, anywhere else is pish
16:54.19Jiggs:(
16:54.34Jiggsi was in london 3 days ago, it was not as good, but acceptable
16:54.40Jiggsmurphys wasnt bad either there
16:55.12fakkerit's good weather for pear kopparberg
16:55.16Jiggshavnt had it in the US or mainland europe yet, but i hear its not nearly as good. i feel bad for you guys :)
16:55.18BigDaDDyanyone here with a non-tmo device and dan's froyo?
16:55.23SamanthaMarquezit's perfect weather for corona
16:55.27fakkerand lime
16:55.36Jiggswhere are you fakker?
16:55.46fakkerhertfordshire/north london
16:55.52DomZand champagne
16:55.58Jiggswhat should i have when i visit london next time?
16:56.05fakkercup of tea
16:56.08Jiggs:)
16:56.08fakkerlol
16:56.20Jiggsi don't like tea. im a rare irishman in that way
16:56.21fakkerdont even drink tea
16:56.25fakker:D
16:56.35fakkerwell, im asian and i dont drink tea - that's just odd
16:56.41Jiggswait, this isnt the chat channel :)
16:56.58fakkeri dunno much about beers i guess - i just go out and get wasted
16:57.01Jiggsmuch more technical over in the chat channel.
16:57.07Jiggslol
16:57.14Parad0XUA:-D
16:57.18fakkerdisaronno and coke tastes like dr pepper
16:57.24fakkerif you like dr pepper ;]
16:57.47JiggsI do that too, but i like a good beer/stout too
16:58.02fakkerif you have a shot of absinthe - then sip corona with lime
16:58.06fakkerit tastes like marijuana kinda
16:58.10gauner1986lol
16:58.11fakkeronly first few sips
16:58.11Jiggswin
16:58.29fakkeryeah - i was pretty amazed when i realised that
16:58.46Jiggswhen i was in london, i was disappointed with how many places were closed, or close early.
16:58.49Jiggspubs and such
16:58.55fakkeryeah 12oclock
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16:58.58Jiggsit was thursday nigth. is that normal?
16:58.59Jiggs:(
16:59.01fakkeris usual closing time
16:59.08Jiggswe evntually found a place open til 2am
16:59.12gauner1986what the hell?
16:59.13fakkerbut there are many that stay til 1 and 2
16:59.17Jiggsyou cant find a closed pub in dublin before 2 :)
16:59.20gauner1986in germany the pubs close at 5am or so
16:59.30phh(I feel like you shouold be in -chat)
16:59.31fakkeryeah - over here you have to obtain the 24hour license
16:59.33gauner1986depends on where you are
16:59.43Jiggsyeah, i lived in germany and ireland. both had better nightlife than london. i thought london was like us irish drunks :(
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17:01.06Jiggsaufwiedersehen
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17:01.11Anders_KeisDenmark is like 5 or 6 am :)
17:01.26Anders_Keisand then the morning pubs open h ehe
17:01.45fakkeruk is being tough - we have a lot of binge drinkers
17:01.49TrojiHi
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17:02.06gauner1986i already suffered from most mc donalds outsie germany having not open all the night
17:02.07gauner1986:D
17:02.16gauner1986in the netherlands the close at 11pm
17:02.17gauner1986wtf
17:02.20gauner1986+y
17:02.30fakkernah
17:02.36SamanthaMarquez3am now gauner ;)
17:02.38fakkerone of them in amsterdam is open late - i went there at 2am
17:02.42gauner1986hm
17:02.51SamanthaMarqueznot all of them tho haha
17:03.02SamanthaMarquezand in the big cities they are open 24/7
17:03.10fakkernot damrak or whatever, the road next to it
17:03.11Trojiwhats up guys any news ?
17:03.32gauner1986even the mc donalds at our small town here is 24/7
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17:03.55Trojiand how can i tell if i'm not muted in some how :/
17:04.24gauner1986seems like no cotulla today T_T
17:04.32fakkercall a friend, ask if they can hear you Troji
17:04.46Trojikewl :/
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17:04.57SamanthaMarquezit's still early ;)
17:05.12fakkerits 9pm or so wherever Cotulla is from
17:05.18fakkerhe's probably gettin some
17:05.22fakkerwoofwoof
17:05.26gauner1986:D
17:05.34fakkeryo lady, im cotulla - you know what this means?
17:05.35Trojino friends here i guess - lol
17:05.47fakkerTroji, i thought you meant on the phone?
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17:06.21Trojiatleast i have a fake one - lol
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17:07.35Troji9 yeays away from the irc - thanks tolinux i'm back again :/
17:08.18Trojiso whats cooking !?
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17:09.31Trojiam i on lag ?! <-- lol
17:10.05fakkerTroji, youll get more convo in #htc-linux-chat
17:10.08fakkeri guess
17:10.40Trojifakker can i atleast sing " ice ice baby " !!
17:10.53fakkergo for it, im goin to sleep
17:11.00Trojilol
17:16.50NeoFluxWhat's a good score on neocore?  I get ~24fps
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17:17.08phhNeoFlux: on raphael ?
17:17.36NeoFluxphh: HD2
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17:17.41phhah.
17:17.50phhthat's almost what raph gets, that gives you an idea.
17:18.16phh(raph gets ~ 21/22)
17:18.43NeoFluxMeans there is plenty of room yet :P
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17:35.18montraydavisHello.
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17:36.37montraydavisI have a question about the #Android kernel.....
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17:37.57gauner1986there is no android kernel
17:38.15jmzzz~seen Cutulla
17:38.17apti haven't seen 'cutulla', jmzzz
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17:39.01levinghello, i need help to root an adp1/g1 phone, i fail with all tutorials
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17:42.20levingthe phone has hboot 0.95.0000 and radio 2.22.19.26i, but i can't flash any other image, help needed
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17:43.23FDgot a interesting msg coming up in logcat: "Attempting to remove unknown iface(usb0), Ignoring" i havent had it plugged in for atleast 4 hours
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17:47.35montraydavisgauner1986 Uhm, yes there is... O.o
17:47.52gauner1986it's the linux kernel :P
17:48.01gauner1986with some dirty android modifications
17:48.03montraydavisAndroid still has a kernel, actually.. So there is one.
17:48.12montraydavisOtherwise, it could not run....
17:48.21montraydavisLinux kernel isn't enough.... That's just the core...
17:48.49gauner1986dunno what you mean with kernel then :)
17:49.00gauner1986anyway.. what was the question?
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17:56.27LeTamaHello gauner1986, quick question, desire v4 works for you ?
17:56.59gauner1986LeTama: haven't tested as darkstone said it's the same as the beta, only with cotullas latest kernel image
17:57.10gauner1986why are you asking?
17:57.28rediv4 works for me
17:57.34rediran it for 6 hours v.stable
17:57.35LeTamagauner1986: both beta and v4 dies on SurfaceFlinger on mine
17:57.43redibut battery finally died so had to boot back to windows
17:57.49redicharging sux atm :(
17:58.03LeTamagauner1986: What rom and combo are you using ?
17:58.14LeTamaerr radio combo
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18:00.11gauner1986LeTama: i'm using miri's 17.6 with sense
18:00.26gauner1986and radio 2.12
18:00.58jmzzz~seen Coutulla
18:01.00aptjmzzz: i haven't seen 'coutulla'
18:01.00gauner1986which gives me fine sound in calls on android
18:01.06gauner1986lol
18:01.15Refugeenergy
18:01.18Refugeis that ok to use?
18:01.19gauner1986yeah
18:01.22gauner1986energy works also
18:01.25gauner1986i heard at least
18:01.32Refugethat's what i use
18:01.32LeTamagauner: 2.12.50.02_2 ?
18:01.32Refuge:p
18:01.43gauner1986LeTama: yes.. that's the one
18:02.09BigDaDDygauner1986: fine sound in which build? froyo or desire?
18:02.15gauner1986both
18:02.20jmzzz~seen Cutulla
18:02.21apti haven't seen 'cutulla', jmzzz
18:02.27jmzzz*WALL*
18:02.29gauner1986~seen Cotulla
18:02.29aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 20h 56m 19s ago, saying: 'GO GO GO!'.
18:02.31FDCotulla
18:02.33FD;)
18:02.38BigDaDDygauner1986: can you link the rom plz? (and is your device tmous?)
18:02.39jmzzzok. Thanks
18:02.47LeTamagauner1986: strange, I think I tried this combo, Miri_HD2_WM65_21908_Sense25_V17.0.rar
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18:02.54LeTamathat's the one I have
18:03.20MicroangHi, I'm using the stock 1.6
18:03.23Microangoops
18:03.29gauner1986LeTama: i use this one: http://htcpedia.com/miri_hd2_wm23569_x_rom_sense25_v176/soft/htc-leo-rom.html
18:03.53gauner1986i had that surfaceflinger error in the very early days of kernel dev… mhm
18:04.02gauner1986can't remember what it was exactly though
18:05.00MicroangI'm using the stock 1.66 ROM and Dan1j3l's build and it seems that almost every time I restart back into winmo from android my email, wifi and data settings have been cleared, anyone else have this problem and know how to fix it or what causes it?
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18:05.29LeTamagauner1986: ok, thanks, I'll check this one. I'm crashing with the kernel provided and git head...
18:05.32Microangbtw I use the 1.66 and 2.10 radio and no robot sounds
18:06.13LeTamaMicroang: it happens from time to time, probably a file left open that gets corrupted during linux boot
18:06.43MicroangLeTema: Any suggestions on what to do to fix it?
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18:08.09LeTamaMicroang: no idea on how to avoid it
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18:11.31Microang_Oh well I'll just have to make a Sprite Backup to restore the settings when they get lost.
18:11.39Microang_apt seen cotulla
18:11.40aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 21h 5m 30s ago, saying: 'GO GO GO!'.
18:12.33dcordesMicroang_: hello
18:12.49dcordesMicroang_: do you know who wrote this ?
18:12.49Microang_Hello dcordes
18:12.58dcordesMicroang: "Ask any port progress questions [...] #htc-linux"
18:13.06gauner1986hi dcordes
18:13.22Microang_where decordes?
18:13.27Scrizzhahaha
18:13.41Scrizzuninstalled dcordes!
18:14.35Microang_oops dcordes
18:15.52dcordesMicroang_: how about a 'sorry guys I redirected tons of noobs here, although it is stated very clear everywhere that this channel is primarily for development talk.'
18:16.20gauner1986lol
18:16.26Scrizzouch
18:17.00tmztdcordes: what's going on? htc-linux is getting too popular?
18:17.16Unholydcordes: is this right http://pastebin.com/WZespiUT, im having problems booting a system img , it boots but stays in a black screen and log cat shows this http://pastebin.com/jc6mzBAC
18:17.33tmztpvf mentioned something about open source on phones and suggested some of the bigs should really cover it in depth, but I'm not sure what he was actually referring to
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18:17.59dcordestmzt: no problem about some offtopic stuff. but it is not necessary to invite everybody here to ask 'when is it done ?'. I think you second that
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18:18.00tmztI just want to see accurate information and not a proliferation of cabs and builds that have plagued Windows Mobile 'ROM' devleopment
18:18.08tmztof course
18:18.20tmztthe question is when is what done?
18:18.43tmzthow is the wiki matrix going? is cotulla, etc. updating it?
18:18.46dcordestmzt: Microang_ posted it on a forum thread about linux on hd2
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18:19.03tmztoh, that people should inquire about the progress in here?
18:19.13dcordestmzt: everybody who is registered for a while can edit. but cotulla tracks it and updates it I think
18:19.24dcordesyes
18:19.27tmztI assume somebody in the new channel actually knows about builds, I have no clue
18:19.43tmztI'm always willing to help with unixy stuff when I can, but I have to have some context
18:19.58tmztthis same thing happened with android root and countless other projects
18:20.31tmztdo you think the landing page should reflect the focus of the project?
18:20.44dcordesmight be a good idea
18:20.46basst85question: is there a .db file in /data/data/ with the current signal strength and battery level? or is it only settings?
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18:21.02tmztor reverse chronology of devices, not the xda like list on the index
18:21.07dcordesand the landing page should definitely be more reliable
18:21.17tmztmaybe make the index the wiki for now, keep your list of related projects somewhere else
18:21.30tmzttheme looks great, kind of androidy though in color choice
18:21.32dcordesmany good ideas
18:21.45dcordeswe should really sort devices like that
18:21.49tmztis there a primary build or series of builds that people are using?
18:22.01dcordesit is the htc green color code
18:22.05dcordesfrom htc.com
18:22.18tmztmaybe small pictures and market names, with an emphasis on codenames for discussion
18:22.36tmztah, cool
18:22.45dcordesno but I heard many people say they would like to see more enduser stuff on htc-linux.org
18:22.50dcordesi.e. more builds etc
18:22.54dcordesmaybe some news section
18:22.57tmztsure, to offload us
18:23.00dcordesthe status pages are a good start
18:23.10tmztwell, I'd rather weren't hosting actual build images
18:23.20dcordesindexing them
18:23.21tmztbecause those are likely to be derived from android images not AOSP
18:23.23DiscoLives4everLink to build images?
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18:23.40DiscoLives4evermaybe a table showing whats enabled in each build and android version?
18:23.44dcordesDiscoLives4ever: like that
18:23.52tmztit would also be nice if rhobuntu or similar had equal billing with android
18:24.00tmztto keep the focus of the project on the kernel and not images
18:24.25tmztbut more exposure means more developer resources hopefully, and a recognition that this is because an end user focused effort
18:24.27dcordestmzt: rhobuntu is xdandroid is htc-msm-2.6.27 :)
18:24.34tmztmostly because kernel has gone so well?
18:24.53tmztrhobuntu kernel is? I mean the existence of non-android userspaces should be highlighted
18:25.28tmztanother thing we could look at in future, including some android-shipped devices with a newer upstream-focused kernel
18:25.32dcordeslet me grab pen and paper :)
18:25.50fakkerthat's what the logs are for :P
18:25.51Microang_dcordes: I'm sorry if lots of noobs came here as a resault but I said to stay up to date with the LOGS on Netrippers site NOT join the chat!!! I am currently editing it to make it even clearer for total noobs!!!
18:25.52tmztthis would hopefully improve collaboration with qualcomm/quic/codeaurora as we reach out on linux-arm-msm
18:25.55tmzthah, logs
18:26.24tmztMicroang_: it shouldn't be a problem, as long as they find a niche and stay
18:26.36tmztpopping in to ask how it's going and not waiting for an answer is just noise
18:26.59Microang_dcordes: I am updating it to say if they really need to say something to do it in htc-linux-chat
18:27.17tmztanyway, dcordes
18:27.44tmztwe should move our focus to the second generation of A and snapdragon chips, remind people that vogue linux still exists for non-A and the progress there won't be lost
18:28.23tmztbut I would say HD2, TP2, D2? the android, N1, EVO, Dream/Magics
18:28.36tmztany of the samsungs that people really want ot support
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18:29.50ID2hello guys
18:29.54tmzthello
18:30.11ID2how devlop things going
18:30.29tmztID2: please ask a specific question, we log this channel and want to add to overall knowledge
18:30.54tmztwe are happy to answer questions, but if you're looking for 'well' or 'we're making progress' it doesn't really add much to the discussion
18:31.04tmztwe are discussing a new wiki for that (htc-linux.org)
18:31.22ID2sorry
18:31.23DiscoLives4everwhat's the command to change ones name on here? I want to switch to a shorter one....
18:31.46tmztdcordes: maybe we could do a matrix but make the areas links to a bug database for topics like GPS, Sound, etc.
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18:32.02tmztif we could get all of out kernel and xdandroid stuff in one place that would be pretty awesome
18:32.09tmztthen we would have work items to focus on
18:32.10ID2but i want to know abount nand and dual boot
18:32.17tmztID2: so first, what device
18:32.22tmztDiscoLives4ever: try /nick <whatever>
18:32.28ID2hd2
18:32.38DiscoLinuxtmzt great thanks
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18:34.15Unholy# create dalvik-cache and double-check the perms
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18:34.23Unholyare thos permission ok?
18:35.09Unholymy system img complaing it cannot chown cache/dalvik-cache/
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18:35.41tmztis /cache mounted properly?
18:36.16Unholywere do i check that?
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18:36.34dcordestmzt: sorry wrote everything down. thanks for all the good ideas
18:36.56tmzthah, that's what I (try to) do
18:37.11tmztUnholy: I would guess earlier in the script you're working on
18:37.32Unholyhmm seems its comment out
18:37.39Unholy#    mkdir /cache 0770 system cache
18:37.41dcordestmzt: such matrix with links exists
18:37.43tmztdcordes: I'm still thinking about doing a facebook thing, I think it's more approachable for non-devs than xda forums
18:37.44dcordestmzt: for the hd2
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18:38.04dcordestmzt: why not
18:38.11DiscoLinuxI volunteer my services for Facebook as well
18:38.31tmztwhen we get enough members (the five or us?) we get a short link
18:38.36tmztI'm guessing HTCLinux would be fine?
18:38.37dcordesyou and 5748 others like htc-linux.org project.
18:38.44tmztoh wow
18:38.46tmztlink?
18:39.07dcordesj/k . short utopia
18:39.11Unholytmzt: the system img im trying to make work is for my raph110, you shure i have to mount cache?
18:39.47dcordestmzt: would HTC-Linux work ?
18:40.02DiscoLinuxI was thinking an HD2-Linux specific one....
18:40.23dcordesDiscoLinux: I think it is bad to do highly device specific things
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18:41.07DiscoLinuxdcordes: fair enough, that makes sense. Did we want a page or a group?
18:41.15tmztpage, groups are dead
18:41.29tmztpages support tabs and forums and give us more control
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18:41.47tmztdcordes: where is that like thing?
18:41.58tmztI'd rather HTCLinux seems to fit better with HTC's efforts
18:42.11tmztI've been trying to be active on there but I think I just annoy carriers
18:42.12tmzt:)
18:42.31dcordeswhat HTC Efforts you mean? their presence on fb ?
18:42.39DiscoLinuxany opposition to me creating an "HTC Linux" page? I'll have to be the official representative...
18:42.48tmzthttp://www.facebook.com/#!/touchpro2?ref=ts
18:45.17tmztDiscoLinux: we should really look at what's involved I don't want to have issues later with absent group owners
18:46.39DiscoLinuxtmzt: I've got plenty of spare time in the foreseeable future, plus we can add multiple owners to the page I believe
18:47.15dcordesDiscoLinux: question is what is your involvement with the project
18:48.07DiscoLinuxFor the most part a passive observer. I have some linux development experience but haven't had a chance to play with it on my phone so I've just been trying to watch and add helpful comments when I can
18:48.28tmztit's community building we're looking for here, not development
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18:49.01DiscoLinuxRight, my thought is to centralize information including troubleshooting help and make it more layman-friendly
18:49.04ID2community is bad idea
18:49.33DiscoLinuxact as sort of a translator from dev-speak to end-user
18:49.38tmztDiscoLinux: what responsibilities would you be looking for? can you figure out how to add owners or is there still one owner?
18:49.48Microang_@dcordes and other developers: I have updated my builds thread on xda to make it as clear as possible to noobs so you guys don't get spammed so much, here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7032324 please give any suggestions as to what I should change. Thanks.
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18:50.38DiscoLinuxtmzt: I don't mind doing overall maintanence and news updates. also I can add admins
18:50.59tmztokay, I guess add me and lukas as admins if we're going to go with this
18:51.06DiscoLinuxAlso I will handle moderation of forums
18:51.10ID2and me
18:52.07DiscoLinuxok, have you joined the group already?
18:52.24dcordesDiscoLinux: I have the link and join later
18:53.22dcordesMicroang_: thanks.
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18:54.37Microang_Dcordes: sorry I didn't get your PM earlier I don't regularly go on xda anymore I just watch the logs so only noticed when I went to edit the thread.
18:56.26Microang_btw, the cleanex team want to help us in developing a NAND based ROM of android for the HD2 and have asked for developer help in case anyone is interested.
18:56.28Microang_:)
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18:58.42tmztalright, can we get an HD2 + Tux logo?
19:00.05DiscoLinuxtmzt: I was just looking for one
19:00.08tmztDiscoLinux: skler?
19:00.19DiscoLinuxyeah, but I go by Tod
19:00.31ID2good Microang_,so contact with cleanex now
19:02.31dcordesg2 run bb
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19:19.01DiscoLinuxVery basic beginnings of facebook page up and running. Called "HTC Linux". Still a work in progress, but any feedback appreciated
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19:21.12gauner1986still no cotulla? T_T
19:21.34FDtaking a day off?
19:21.40FDwell deserved  :p
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19:23.23ID2gauner1986 no cotulla no devolpment
19:23.34Scrizz:S
19:23.37ID2hi russia
19:23.47Scrizzhas Cotulla hidden!
19:24.26gauner1986you kidnapped him?
19:24.35Scrizzhaha
19:24.41Scrizzjust hidden
19:24.50ID2slap Scrizz right in his ass
19:25.00ID2lol
19:25.18Scrizzha
19:25.27Scrizzmaybe i won't bring him back 2morrow then
19:25.32Scrizz:P
19:25.39LeTamagauner1986: no change :( what hspl version do you have ?
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19:27.11gauner1986LeTama: hm.. strange.. 1.48 or so.. the first one that came out
19:27.33LeTamagauner1986: ok,  I have 2.08, let's try downgrade a bit
19:27.34gauner1986LeTama: but you had it running once?
19:27.37tmztokay, it looks like the facebook page is http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/HTC-Linux/139849279377225?ref=ts
19:27.42LeTamagauner1986: never
19:27.52tmztcreated by DiscoLinux, I'm an admin and dcordes will be also
19:28.16tmztso we need people to like it so we can get a username assigned
19:28.20LeTamagauner1986: froyo is running fine, cotulla is running fine
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19:28.52gauner1986LeTama: maybe your dl is just corrupted?
19:28.54tmztanybody who knows or wants to learn fbml can help out, we will need to get some content (like the FAQ) in that form
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19:29.35tmztDiscoLinux: I'm going to take the pictures tab out for now so we can get more focused content in the tabs
19:29.41tmztI don't think that will be a problem
19:29.43tmztthe logo is cool
19:29.52tmztI've added some text to the about but there's a limit
19:29.56SamanthaMarquezreceive my class 8 tomorrow :D
19:30.14tmztremember the about text is what shows up in the search and we need to simpify the first sentence a bit
19:30.17tmztcurrently
19:30.22Scrizz<PROTECTED>
19:30.31tmztWelcome to HTC Linux, the centralized information center for running all Linux userspaces (including Android) on your HTC phone!
19:30.33tmzt* We are not HTC or connected to the HTC company
19:30.36tmztProfile picture from http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/htc-tux.jpg
19:30.50Scrizzlol
19:30.51ID2its ugly
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19:31.10Scrizzwant something less tacky?
19:31.12tmzthah, well that's open for discussion I think
19:31.20tmztwe just don't want a giant ? while we decide
19:31.37tmztI'm thinking a simple HD2 with tux logo, not blingy tux with HD2
19:31.44tmztor generic phone as he seems to be holding
19:31.55Scrizzlol
19:31.59LeTamagauner1986: doesn't seem so, tried two different downloads
19:32.00tmztbut this at least gives us our own branding and minimizes confusion with HTC
19:32.10tmztwhich is important, this page is for HTC Linux not HTC
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19:32.13gauner1986LeTama: what's the error then?
19:32.19DiscoLinuxtmzt: that's fine about the pictures, also good call on the about text
19:32.41tmztthe HTC in our name is supposed to be descriptive, we at no point want to make ourseleves appear to be htc
19:32.53DiscoLinuxi concur
19:33.05tmztso I need some likes, trying to get the username but that requiers 5 I think
19:33.16Scrizzhmm
19:33.33Scrizzso this is HD2 linux?
19:33.41Scrizzfocusing on Leo?
19:33.43Scrizzor
19:33.47tmztthis is for HTC Linux, we can split a page for that later
19:33.48ScrizzHTC devices
19:33.51tmztbut let's get something going first
19:34.04Scrizzput link in chat
19:34.24tmzthah, trying to keep the forum wall clean
19:34.31ID2picture is not related to hd2
19:34.35tmztwe'll have a badge on htc-linux.org soon
19:34.44tmztID2: no, HD2 isn't the only device anyway
19:34.52gauner1986no?
19:34.53gauner1986:D
19:35.20DiscoLinuxyeah, it's all htc devices, but i think HD2 is where we'll get the most end users. I could be wrong though
19:35.44ScrizzHD2 is best looking one too
19:36.00gauner1986i prefer the hd2's style over desire's style
19:36.03LeTamagauner1986:  segfaults on surfaceflinger, no specific message
19:36.03gauner1986or nexus one style
19:36.05gauner1986it's sexy
19:36.14DiscoLinuxhd2 is the sexy cheerleader, all the other devices are the homely nerd firls
19:36.25tmztI'm actually pushing for more Android-shipped devices
19:36.34tmztI think it will help us get support on some technical issues
19:36.42gauner1986LeTama: mhm.. segfaults suck :(
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19:37.43gauner1986LeTama: i could upload you the files i use
19:38.24tmzttime to take back mobile :)
19:38.36tmztwith our facebooky goodness
19:38.59LeTamagauner1986: thanks but that's not necessary. I'll try hspl, format another sd, and give up :)
19:39.20tmztwelcome phh
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19:39.37phhthanks
19:39.49Scrizz:)
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19:40.10phhso who's in charge of this thing ?
19:40.19DiscoLinuxso far me and tmzt
19:40.24DiscoLinuxbut we can add others
19:40.36phhok
19:40.50[acl]so this is why the logs are packed huh.. stuff like this http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/htc-tux.jpg
19:41.02[acl]lol..
19:41.25phhlol
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19:42.12phhhow are the google waves going btw ?
19:42.17phhI haven't checked for a while.
19:46.06tmztphh: they were only open to a few people I think
19:46.18tmztthis is more of a end user effort that I, dcordes and DiscoLinux are working on
19:46.37tmztcentralizing support and increasing visibility and discoverability of the project
19:46.45phhhum ok
19:46.46tmztwe can do a dev group or something too if you want
19:47.30Scrizzhmm
19:47.32tmztphh: can you confirm me so I can add you as admin?
19:48.09phhtmzt: done
19:48.20tmztoh guys, I liked codeaurora when I found they have a page
19:48.28tmzttheir updates are funny and sometimes informative
19:48.53phhthe "live" stream on their front page
19:48.54phh?
19:49.11tmztmostly
19:49.22phhyeah I like it too
19:50.05tmzttoo bad ca is only for corporate members and NDAd devs
19:50.19DiscoLinuxtmzt: we're up to ten "Likes", do we get a better link now?
19:50.28phhtmzt: ca ?
19:50.31tmztit seems theres are waiting period
19:50.35tmztphh: codeaurora.org
19:50.42phhah yeah ok
19:51.07tmztsince they claim to be an open source project and the source for open source information on qualcomm devices
19:51.22phhtmzt: wait, with just NDAs we can work with them and get real infos ?
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20:02.01gauner1986here
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20:09.12slovenechi there
20:09.42sloveneci have a propsition for logo of htc linux.. something like that
20:09.42slovenechttp://www.shrani.si/f/2P/HL/34JRFyOX/bb.jpg
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20:10.36slovenecsimple.. i don't like clutter as it is now with this almost like rapper suited tux
20:12.09sloveneci'm gone, but i'm following logs, so you can write ;)
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20:13.56slovenecand thanks to all crew working their ass off, especially Cotulla, gauner1986, Parad0XUA, NetRipper and dan1j3l(brate!)
20:14.17Parad0XUA=]
20:14.19slovenecand darkstone, keep up with good work
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20:15.37slovenecbye ;)
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20:17.00[acl]wow.. more penguins
20:21.46tmztslovenec: well, that's almost the ancient L(i)nux logo
20:21.58tmztand the last one is HTCs trademark which we won't be using in a logo
20:22.01gauner1986i like dcordes logo :D
20:22.15tmztthe goal must be to differentiate ourselves and this does that nicely
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20:29.33zonertmzt
20:29.35zonerlogo is great
20:29.37zonernvm others
20:30.04zoneri would "like" the page if i hadn't closed my account
20:31.07HardDisk_WPhy
20:31.12gauner1986hi
20:31.17HardDisk_WPso now the prox-sensor also works oO
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20:31.27gauner1986it does
20:31.29gauner1986;)
20:32.49HardDisk_WPso list what doesnt work: power, keypad backlight, LEDs, call-audio issues, GPS and the lightsensor
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20:33.20HardDisk_WPoh, and NAND
20:33.20HardDisk_WPi bet a cheeseburger that by tomorrow night the LEDs or the keypad backlight work.
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20:34.37gauner1986because you're implementing it?
20:34.39gauner1986;)
20:34.44basst85and compass is not 100% working, north is not north. In WinMo it is.
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20:36.06basst85i'v made the 8 figure with hd2, but no difference
20:37.54basst85maybe someone else can test it?
20:38.10gauner1986i'm on it
20:39.35basst85ok, thanks
20:41.28gauner1986which app is there to test?
20:41.44bozukthe compas is not working for me also, I think there is 45 degrees shift north is pointing actually east
20:41.53basst85compass app and in google maps
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20:42.27basst85yes, same degrees difference here
20:43.51basst85the desire build has compass app installed, on Froyo i dont know :)
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20:44.06phhToAsTcfh: is there a system-wide audio equalizer available yet ?
20:44.31gauner1986basst85: where is it?
20:44.33gauner1986can't find it
20:44.40bozukI'm using snaptic compass v1.1
20:45.37basst85you also can test it in Google Maps (v4.3)
20:46.00manusfreedombozuk: same thing for me under froyo
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20:46.24xUmaRixphh ?
20:46.32phhxUmaRix: ?
20:46.41gauner1986not even google maps is installed on desire
20:46.43xUmaRixhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709717&page=2
20:47.01xUmaRixissit true i need to change pmem.c
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20:47.51basst85gauner1986, you dont see "Maps" in program list?
20:47.55gauner1986how can i test comapss on google maps?
20:48.04gauner1986basst85: no. had to install it via market
20:48.13phhxUmaRix: yes
20:48.25basst85do you see the blue arrow on your current location (on map)?
20:48.38xUmaRixthx phh
20:48.56basst85gauner1986: do you see the blue arrow on your current location (on map)?
20:49.02xUmaRixmight need to test to fix gpu in blac100
20:49.12gauner1986hm
20:49.13gauner1986yeah
20:49.18gauner1986it's incorrect by 45°
20:49.19xUmaRixbtw y we still not on 2.6.3x
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20:49.36gauner1986but the arrow is still spinning around
20:49.38basst85gauner1986, thats what i'm talking about :)
20:52.25danibjorwhy does android only report ~250MB total ram when the LEO has ~512
20:52.39gauner1986because only 250 are enabled in kernel
20:53.01danibjorany spesific reason?
20:53.06gauner1986stability
20:53.08danibjork
20:53.55basst85gauner1986: i don't know what causes the 45° difference, is this a "bug" in the zImage?
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20:56.05manusfreedombasst85: I will try to search in code
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20:56.28gauner1986basst85: could be..
20:56.34basst85ok thanks all. gtg now, good night
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21:00.28Cassgauner1986, the backlight stuff in git is the same as the backlight stuff that works in Cotullas kernel ?
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21:01.39Cassignore that dont think it is
21:01.54gauner1986Cass: nope
21:02.02Cassyeah figured
21:02.03gauner1986:)
21:02.13Cassnot been paying much attention the past couple of days
21:02.48Casswondered as i seem to have usbhost on the kernel im running just now and not adb
21:03.18Casstoo many kernels
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21:07.18gauner1986yeah..
21:07.22gauner1986we need some patches on git
21:07.23gauner1986:P
21:07.43Cassyeah .. soon i expect
21:07.53manusfreedomgauner1986: can we include the same file in ".c"?
21:08.17gauner1986manusfreedom: what do you mean?
21:09.32manusfreedomgauner1986: because we have #include <linux/akm8973.h> two time board-htcleo.c on git
21:09.40manusfreedomin*
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21:09.45gauner1986doesnt make sense
21:11.02Cassmanusfreedom, yeah may be a mistake ..
21:11.12Cassmake no diff though
21:11.20manusfreedomyes...
21:11.37Cassyeah its there twice ...
21:11.45manusfreedomakm8973 is used for other device?
21:11.46Casscreate a patch and clean it up :)
21:12.10Cassits one of the sensors
21:12.19gauner1986compass maybe
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21:12.26manusfreedomyes it is compass
21:12.41manusfreedombut I ask to know if other device like leo use it
21:12.56manusfreedombecause I don't understand why it send bad value...
21:13.09Casscompass works does it not
21:13.14gauner1986half
21:13.15Cassdid last time i checked
21:13.20Casshlf .. ok
21:13.25fakkeryeah it only does a certain movement
21:13.28gauner1986it doen't really show the right direction
21:13.32fakkerif you spin around it doesnt show the right place
21:13.32manusfreedomCass: it does not send the good north...
21:13.36Cassok
21:15.06Cassheh seems to show in reverse
21:15.10Casswrong polarity
21:15.31gauner1986mine misses by 45°
21:15.37manusfreedomdid you know that akm8973 send acceleration and temperature...
21:15.40Cassmine seems to be of by 90
21:15.40manusfreedom?
21:15.59Casswould nto have thought temp
21:16.00manusfreedomI see that in code
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21:17.10Cassgauner1986, so the kernel you are using has adb >
21:17.11Cass?
21:17.17Cassand bkl ?
21:17.20gauner1986Cass: yes.. the latest from cotulla
21:17.28gauner1986has proximity and backlight working
21:17.37Cass19th @ 00:51 ?
21:17.46gauner1986zImage.rar was it
21:17.52Cassor the 18th @ 23:15 ?
21:17.55gauner1986the old wlan.ko works
21:17.59Cassyeah
21:18.04Cassok i may have mixed those 2 up
21:19.25gauner1986i wonder what gps misses
21:19.28gauner1986:)
21:20.05Cassi thought someone had it working at linux level patd ?   im sure i saw a cat of /dev/smd27 and some data
21:20.15Casslast week or so
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21:20.34Alexeii heard that Cotulla had a car accident
21:20.37Alexeiis it true?
21:20.43Casshope not
21:20.47Alexeihope
21:20.49Alexeinot
21:20.51Alexeitoo
21:20.51gauner1986yeah
21:20.56gauner1986hope so too
21:21.10gauner1986and what's your source?
21:21.13phhheard s many things ...
21:21.18phhso*
21:21.21Alexeiread in a youtube comment
21:21.24Alexeiprobably lie
21:21.28gauner1986lol
21:21.33gauner1986most reliable source
21:21.35gauner1986:D
21:21.36Alexei:D
21:21.50Alexeieven though i don't trust it, it makes me concern ^^
21:22.00gauner1986yeah
21:22.05gauner1986what would we do without him?
21:22.06gauner1986T_T
21:22.10CassNSFW : i thought hed be of enjoying this http://bit.ly/dD7e2y
21:22.14Alexeiexactly T_T
21:22.32tmztthe progress is impressive, getting all of these little microcontroller protocols and everything documented
21:22.36Alexeii hope he is enjoying that
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21:22.38gauner1986is there any soft-reset app on android?
21:22.39Cass:)
21:22.41Cassi would be
21:23.43gauner1986wet t-shirts
21:23.44gauner1986yay
21:24.06Cassyeah gotta love em russian girls
21:24.25fakkerhah
21:24.39fakker's gf is from russia sorta
21:25.07fakkerjust call everyone a suka
21:26.23Casslucky fakker
21:26.44gauner1986fakker: does she have a neat girlfriend? :P
21:26.57LeTamagauner1986: problem solved, thanks for the help.
21:27.06gauner1986LeTama: what was the problem?
21:27.13LeTamagauner1986: sdcard
21:27.23gauner1986ugly :D
21:27.45manusfreedomI think akm8973 works, but it's has not the same position than the code
21:27.56NeoFlux_fakker: You lie, geeks don't have gf's
21:28.02fakkerim not a geek
21:28.14Casscourse hes not he does cisco :P
21:28.30fakkergimme dem cables
21:28.42Casshaha
21:28.54Cassplig it into 2/38 you say ?
21:29.03fakkeryep
21:29.08fakkerwaits and sees you plug it into 37
21:29.24Cassnah 37 is a span port
21:29.36fakkerdepends
21:29.42LeTamagauner1986: yeah. relieved that it' something simple though
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21:36.52fakkergauner1986, i'll ask when i get home in the morning... im sure the first question will be "how much money do you have?"
21:37.09fakkerstart saving!
21:37.18tmztWhen 25 or more people are connected to your page, you can select a username for your Facebook Page
21:37.25gauner1986fakker: got some reserves :D
21:37.25tmztcan we get there today?
21:37.57fakkertmzt, it lets you make a username for your page regardless?
21:38.08tmzthttp://www.facebook.com/pages/HTC-Linux/139849279377225?ref=ts
21:38.10tmztno
21:38.23fakkerohh
21:38.23tmztwe need 19 more likes
21:38.29fakkerdone
21:39.10DiscoLinuxAren't we almost to 25 already?
21:39.15fakker20
21:39.17fakker25
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21:39.23fakkeri was 25!
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21:40.00DiscoLinuxAh. I'm cleaning up the HD2 Android FAQ right now. After a certain amount of time you can't edit posts, so I'm having to make a new one and I will replace the old
21:40.24tmzthttp://www.facebook.com/HTCLinux
21:40.27fakkerhttp://www.facebook.com/HTCLinux
21:40.29tmztokay, right channel this time:
21:40.31fakkerjynx
21:40.33tmztYaY!!!!!
21:40.40DiscoLinuxnice!
21:40.49fakker4 people add
21:41.44fakkeri need friends
21:41.51tmzt32
21:42.02fakkersee that, now you should spam your personal one
21:42.23danibjor*likde*
21:42.27danibjor*like*
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21:43.19tmztit's like there's real people in this project
21:44.37daeds|zZzjust added myself to it :P
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21:46.10manusfreedomgauner1986: doc http://www.ic-on-line.cn/iol/datasheet/ak8973_4138699.pdf
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21:46.32tmztexponential growth
21:46.44manusfreedombut I don't know why it don't work correctly because the pitch an roll value are good...
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21:49.20DiscoLinuxHas anybody posted the FB page to xda? Does anyone dare? ;)
21:49.48ToAsTcfhphh: not that i know of
21:49.59phhToAsTcfh: interested in some ? :D
21:50.09ToAsTcfhlol sure
21:50.17phhwell it's not yet working.
21:50.22ToAsTcfhlol sure:/
21:50.38phhbut i'm pretty confident.
21:50.39tmztDiscoLinux: trying to grow organically
21:50.48ToAsTcfhhehe
21:50.53tmztwe'll get a badge on htc-linux with the partial redesign
21:50.57tmztToAsTcfh: come on in, the waters fine
21:51.23DiscoLinuxtmzt: organically a la the borg?
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21:51.37ToAsTcfhphh: hows liquid been coming
21:52.34tmztI want to see if people who wouldn't find use via xda or use xda will avail themselves of this resource
21:52.39tmztit's somewhat of an experiement
21:52.52tmztif you type HTC Linux in facebook search you get us, if you type HTC we're in the list
21:53.10ToAsTcfhnice
21:53.12ali1234needs moar android :)
21:53.34ToAsTcfhbut then came the noobs bigger then me :P
21:53.38ali1234although i suppose HTC is a lot more known than what it was when everyone was rebranding them a few years ago
21:54.22tmztyep, I found out when going in Best Buy and the girl selling phones referred to them as HTCs
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21:54.39tmztnow with the 'bad press' from iPhone 4 HTC is getting in the news for having the same issue
21:54.40Major_Sarcasmhad an SPV C500 back in the day
21:54.45tmztbut they are getting in the news
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21:54.52ali1234really? i hadn't heard that
21:54.59phhToAsTcfh: quite bad.
21:55.27ali1234hearing nothing but love for HTC lately
21:55.28phhToAsTcfh: that's why I'm moving to EQ, I might be more lucky there.
21:55.39ali1234i suppose there was that call drop thing on the ... eris?
21:55.56tmztali1234: really awesome hardware
21:56.04tmztno, the Nexus One, but theye kind of just killed that
21:56.09ToAsTcfhphh: meh lol jk i have faith in u
21:56.12tmztdepending on how you hold it
21:56.52ToAsTcfhphh: me and maejrep been working on 4G wanna talk about a PITA
21:56.58ToAsTcfhin aosp
21:57.00ToAsTcfh:/
21:58.19ali1234i don't buy it myself, i'm not an EE but i've seen what happens when you touch the aerial on a TV, as most people probably have. even if the problem isn't caused by the physical connection, most people probably think it is...
21:59.09ali1234and i mean i don't buy apple's story of "this happens on all phones"
21:59.38tmztall rf systems very with the surrounding material
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22:00.32ali1234sure, but if you connect something conductive to the aerial, you're not just blocking the signal you are also changing the aerial properties
22:00.47tmztyes, but you don't have to connect it
22:01.04ali1234everyone has had a Tv where you only get a good picture while actually physically holding on to the aerial ... or the opposite
22:01.05tmzttalk to PaulFertser in #openmoko-cdevel about it
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22:01.19tmztbut the picture changes when you walk near it too
22:01.35ali1234not as dramatically... of course it's a totally different system
22:01.37tmztis the iPhone 4 especially suceptible, yeah
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22:01.50ali1234but that's going to be the popular perception i would guess
22:02.07ali1234i mean it's not like anyone cares about the truth :)
22:02.24tmztApple wasn't wrong anyway, they were just incomplete in their statement
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22:10.54dan1j3lello
22:11.01gauner1986hi
22:11.09dan1j3lany news ?
22:11.16gauner1986hm
22:11.19gauner1986no cotulla today
22:11.19gauner1986so no
22:11.21gauner1986:D
22:11.35dan1j3l~seen cotulla
22:11.39aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 1d 1h 5m 29s ago, saying: 'GO GO GO!'.
22:11.47dan1j3lhmmm
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22:13.31gauner1986sad, isn't it? :D
22:14.38dan1j3lwhat ?
22:14.39gauner1986no cotulla today.. no action.. boring...  :D
22:14.53dan1j3lhm, yes
22:15.09dan1j3lbut he needs day off too
22:15.25dan1j3lok, now back to coding :D
22:15.32gauner1986good idea :)
22:15.44gauner1986what's on the meal?
22:16.06dan1j3lleds and gps
22:16.59gauner1986can't find code for it in git
22:17.13gauner1986*gps
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22:17.58dan1j3lhm, i see,first wee need to figure out how android gets data from gps
22:18.05dan1j3lwe*
22:18.08dan1j3l:)
22:18.30tmztrpc
22:19.06dan1j3lthnx
22:19.06tmzt45
22:19.26Parad0XUAdan1j3l /dev/smd27 is the gps
22:19.33dan1j3li know
22:19.47gauner1986i wonder why that is created without explicit code for gps
22:20.01Parad0XUAgauner1986 huh?
22:20.08dan1j3lbtw, did u code leds ?
22:20.16Parad0XUAnot yet
22:20.17Parad0XUAbusy
22:20.20gauner1986what's smd27?
22:20.26dan1j3lok
22:20.46dan1j3lbtw. today ordered new battery for leo
22:20.54gauner1986more capacity?
22:20.57Parad0XUAas far as I understand it's an interface channel between arm9 and arm11
22:21.03gauner1986ah okay
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22:21.12dan1j3lno, stock one, i like slim leo :d
22:21.21gauner1986hm.. yeah
22:21.23gauner1986i do too
22:21.40gauner1986waiting for one with extended capacity
22:21.48dan1j3lthis one started to loose capacity just in one day
22:21.50gauner1986without bigger size
22:22.02tmztDiscoLinux: http://www.hyperarts.com/blog/tutorial-facebook-pages-with-static-fbml-application/
22:22.08tmztlet's see if we can migrate FAQ
22:22.28stavespecially when connected to the internet in the background. mine lasts hours :)
22:22.41dan1j3lnow i get  4-6% drop in one hour
22:23.02gauner1986that's much
22:23.10gauner1986in standby?
22:23.16dan1j3li know, before was 1.8-2%
22:23.23dan1j3lyes, in standby
22:23.35stavstandby time is excellent if not got background internet process running
22:25.45Promshttp://rapidshare.com/files/407844808/Battery_log_dmesg.rar battery logs
22:27.43Promstwo discharge battery
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22:38.32DiscoLinuxtmzt: looks good, I'll research it a bit more a little later
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22:43.00Crushhello devs, i would like to logcat just my boot events is the easiest way just to clear the logs then reboot and pull the entire log as soon as it gets into android?
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22:45.29LordDeathI will try this android rom now :) http://gamesquare.co.uk/desire.html
22:45.35LordDeath-rom +build
22:45.57stavthat build works great apart from when i make a call i get a beep then it switches to speaker automatically then cuts off
22:46.22tmztokay now we need a little css (which has to go on a public server)
22:46.34stavapart from that really usable
22:46.39LordDeathdo we still have to disable PIN1 and the automatic backlight adjustment in WM before we start haret.exe?
22:47.04LordDeathon the HD1 that was the case
22:47.19LordDeathdoes this still apply to the current HD2 builds?
22:48.39stavnot sure about PIN1 but backlight yeah
22:49.00LordDeathok
22:49.26stavill try the miri wm rom to see if it fixes my call audio issue but i dont think it will
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22:49.42LordDeathi am using it already
22:50.16LordDeathbut I have to try it yet
22:50.26LordDeathuntil now android crashed after a couple minutes
22:50.36stavyeah same but that latest build is excellent
22:50.44kevevany fix for the robot voice in calls?
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22:51.14LordDeathdid you start clrcad.exe before haret.exe?
22:51.22stavyeah
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22:52.21kevevLordDeath: who was the question directed @>
22:52.22kevev?
22:52.36LordDeathto you
22:52.41LordDeathabout the robot calls
22:52.53LordDeathor does clrcad.exe just ensures that you have sound at all
22:52.56LordDeath?
22:53.11LordDeathi hope that one day we can use android on our current phones like it was built for it by HTC itself
22:53.20stavit enables the audio driver to work
22:53.53LordDeathi am still wondering how much performance we miss because it is running from the SD card
22:54.12kevevya I run it. I have sound. Using latest Desire build V4.
22:54.38FD-hd2what does lpj =   do in the command line
22:54.41stavcan you make calls without it bleeping and switching the speaker on and cutting off?
22:54.49Dr`RyderStill get robot voice though. That problem is rom and kernel dependent. Have to use a certain WinMo rom to get rid of robot voice.
22:55.06Dr`RyderAnd someone will have to fix that issue in the kernel.
22:55.09LordDeathcan I create batch files in WM?
22:55.16kevevstav: yes
22:55.31stavwhat wm rom are you using kevev?
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22:55.39kevevDr`Ryder: stock T-Mobile US rom
22:55.44FD-hd2to run clrcad n haret?
22:56.00kevevstav: Stock T-Mobile US rom
22:56.07Dr`RyderI use my own rom. I'm not using someone else's. I'll wait until the devs make it rom independent.
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22:56.29LordDeathFD-hd2: yes, a batch file to run first clrcad.exe and then haret.exe
22:56.31stavim using energy but just about to flash miri to see if it fixes the call audio issue
22:56.45FD-hd2I made a app to do it http://robsbay. co. uk/DroidBoot. exe
22:57.06FD-hd2remove the spaces lol stupid kbd
22:57.18tmztDiscoLinux: thougts?
22:57.22kevevFD-hd2: is this the one posted to xda-developers? I seen it the other day.
22:57.43FD-hd2I havent posted it..  no
22:58.11FD-hd2don't know if anyone else did.  they didn't tell me. :l
22:58.26LordDeathhm
22:58.29kevevoh. well, seen an app like it.
22:58.39LordDeathFD-hd2: the url for this site is case sensitive -.-
22:58.40FD-hd2prob jmz
22:58.50LordDeathafaik linux webservers act like this, right??
22:58.51tmztDr`Ryder: that's not really important, the issue isn't known it's just believed that that rom works better
22:58.55FD-hd2this one has no prompt
22:58.57tmztno reason your's can't
22:59.17kevevFD-hd2: So you're the guy who made that great list of HD2 Android working features?
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22:59.29tmztFD-hd2: can you help me update the fb page then?
22:59.30FD-hd2nope
22:59.42tmztor whoever, I'm just guessing
22:59.46FD-hd2its rob _____ site
22:59.47tmztand playing with sfbml
22:59.55kevevahhh
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23:00.44stavwhat radio are you using kevev?
23:00.53FD-hd2can't help dry my html is rusty at best lol
23:01.03FD-hd2sry*
23:01.08tmztno, with content
23:01.16tmztwe need to keep this wiki tab up to date
23:01.17kevevstav: checking
23:01.28tmztI'm putting links to a trac when we get one
23:01.40stavive not got a us tmobile hd2 so prob cant flash that stock rom
23:01.57FD-hd2I could help with that.  I lurk a lot lol
23:02.23FD-hd2u can use tmo Rom on Europe hd2
23:02.29FD-hd2I am
23:02.32kevevstav: 2.10.50.26
23:02.36stavinteresting
23:02.53stavi did have 2.10.50.26 on with desire v4 but had the call problem
23:02.59FD-hd2works so nice for android
23:03.03stavill try flashing miri
23:03.10stavif no good maybe try tmo rom
23:03.21FD-hd2its not radio its Rom
23:03.29stavgreat :)
23:03.36FD-hd2miri. will work
23:03.44stavit seemed perfectly usable apart from the call issue
23:03.59stavbut not sure about leaving it idle for any significant amount of time yet
23:04.12FD-hd2it is I've used it 3 days straight.  I autoboot Android
23:04.23FD-hd2froyo ftw
23:04.34DiscoLinuxtmzt: I like it, how hard would it be to make a table similar to the Leo wiki that we can show what works/doesn't work in each build?
23:04.38stavits definately a step in the right direction compared to the previous builds
23:04.48kevevI used Desire V4 all day. except for calls it works great.
23:05.03stavfroyo version would be nice
23:05.10stav:P
23:05.13tmztDiscoLinux: the wikis down, I'm going to work on css later after I finish another project
23:05.14FD-hd2I make calls and all. :p
23:05.25LordDeathyesterday I configured an htc desire for the first time
23:05.38LordDeathmy uncle bought one
23:05.49LordDeathit was 3 pm
23:05.55DiscoLinuxtmzt: does the fbml allow regular HTML code?
23:05.59tmztyep
23:06.03LordDeathlater I look at the watch: 7 pm ^^
23:06.10tmztfbml is additional tags
23:06.22kevevha
23:06.26LordDeaththis android stuff is somehow time consuming ;-)
23:06.26FD-hd2lol lord
23:06.27tmztit'll look great with css
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23:06.53kevevEvening NeoFlux :o)
23:07.07kevev:o(
23:07.33DiscoLinuxcheck the progress page now, I added dcordes table
23:08.20FD-hd2link
23:08.29DiscoLinuxhttp://www.facebook.com/HTCLinux?v=app_7146470109
23:08.37FD-hd2Ty
23:09.34tmztDiscoLinux: please <!-- --> mine then
23:09.41FD-hd2naice 1
23:09.44tmztjust don't delete it, I"m going to work on the bugs stuff
23:09.57DiscoLinuxtmzt: yeah i didn't want to delete it. I'll hide it though
23:10.33tmztI think this might be a little complicated for end users though
23:10.48tmztand things that really really work don't need progress indicateor
23:10.54tmztthis isn't a feature matrix from marketing
23:11.00DiscoLinuxYeah, what I'm thinking is that we'll use the basic table and siomplify it
23:11.18tmzt<PROTECTED>
23:11.22DiscoLinuxand also adapt it to various builds (ie Cotulla's latest, Desire, etc)
23:11.23tmztdev stuff :0
23:11.33tmztI'm trying to answer users questions about green screens, etc.
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23:11.54tmztDiscoLinux: rather not, can we stay with kernel where possible and let short term issues in builds sort themselves
23:12.05DiscoLinuxk
23:12.21kevevIm out
23:12.30DiscoLinuxshould we drop the GNU/Linux column?
23:13.03LordDeathdesire v4 build just booted
23:13.09LordDeathwhat the hell?
23:13.17LordDeaththere must be something wrong
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23:13.32LordDeaththis can't run such smooth...
23:13.42LordDeaththere must be an error somewhere ^^
23:16.15Dr`RyderThere is. Try using the GPS. ;)
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23:18.09LordDeathand again a freeze
23:18.19LordDeathhad to softreset the device :-(
23:18.26stavyouve got to give it a few minutes to settle down :P
23:18.52LordDeathmaybe it doesn't like my sd card??
23:19.10LordDeathi am still using this 8GB card shipped with the HD1
23:19.23stavmaybe ive just trashed my sd and copied the files across again. just about to flash miri to see if calls work better
23:19.28LordDeathfor the HD2 they included only a 2gb one -.-
23:20.51stavit works fine on the standard 2gb one
23:22.14stavcool ive ditched extreme for miri. lets see if it works better
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23:53.36stavhmm same prob with miri rom
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