IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100701

00:00.06AstainHellbringali1234 yes the screen goes completely blue
00:00.24Magnusrilol
00:00.52gauner1986if somebody could replace it with the microsoft variant? :P
00:01.08Magnusriu like white txt? x)¨
00:01.09gauner1986microsoft did it better!
00:01.19gauner1986yeah.. more informative and stuff
00:01.24Scrizzyeah
00:01.25Magnusritrue : p
00:01.44Scrizzbut BSoDs don't really happen in android normally
00:01.46Cassyeah, your mouse and kb is broken, click ok to continue
00:01.48nineX_ARGH
00:01.55nineX_can't get this sdcard formatted FAT
00:02.39nineX_does it need to be FAT or can i leave it FAT32?
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00:03.24gauner1986fat32 is good
00:03.45nineX_hmmm
00:04.10AstainHellbringconsensus is that blue screen is caused by frame buffer issue?
00:04.33gauner1986astainhellbring: i guess yes
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00:13.38nineX_just got my first taste of android on hd2
00:13.43nineX_it was glorious
00:13.49Scrizzgood
00:14.16nineX_didnt even bsod, just froze up
00:14.23darkstonedcordes: you there?
00:14.38darkstonei can mirror the ubuntu file for you if you wish
00:16.53nineX_who said they had gsm working on the android test?
00:17.05Magnusrii have?
00:17.31nineX_and you were just using - http://media2a.com/android/Android_Boot_Test_TS.zip ?
00:17.39Magnusrino
00:17.52Magnusrithe one with gsm patch
00:18.01nineX_link?
00:18.13Magnusridon't have it : /
00:18.27Magnusrii'll have a look in log
00:20.55MagnusriFull archive: http://woptimize.com/htc-leo/rootfs/XDAndroid-dan1j3l-GSM_Test.zip
00:22.10chris5932ubuntu with keyboard is cool :P
00:22.33LokisSwordchris5932 - got mouse working to?
00:22.35Magnusriyou use keyboard over usb? : p
00:22.41chris5932yes
00:22.48chris5932all working
00:22.52Magnusrinice
00:22.56chris5932but only one device at a time
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00:23.10chris5932selfmade cable
00:23.21NeoFlux_Any updates?
00:23.22chris5932powered by pc
00:23.31LokisSwordCan't get my keyboard detected, I'm certain my setup is correct - using a Y lead that came with my 3g dongle
00:23.35Magnusriok, how did you power by pc? :P
00:23.48Magnusriusual power connectors in pc?
00:23.55nineX_thnx Magnusri
00:23.56chris5932usb
00:23.56Magnusridirectly?
00:24.06MagnusrinineX_: np : )
00:24.15Magnusrioh, ofc XD
00:24.20Magnusrilol
00:24.55chris5932took an usb cable from an old mouse and cut it
00:25.24chris5932then i took an usb/bluetooth adapter for pc and cut it also, so i had 2 female ports
00:25.32chris5932wired all together.. works
00:26.21chris5932will post pictures on wiki maybe
00:26.56NeoFlux_Sooo... any updates? :P
00:27.18NeoFlux_MY server has been offline for a few hours while I've been in work so I can't look back at the chat logs
00:27.29chris5932nothing new.
00:28.02chris5932maybe cotulla is working out of here
00:28.09chris5932too much noise anyways
00:32.18NeoFlux_hmm
00:32.54gauner1986~seen cotulla
00:32.57aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 8h 4m 53s ago, saying: 'so u can continue later'.
00:33.09gauner1986hmm
00:33.29NeoFlux_Any idea if any progress to kill the bsod problem has been made?
00:33.52Magnusrii don't think there's been any..
00:34.03NeoFlux_shame, but we've come a long way since last week
00:34.12Magnusricotulla might be working on it in silence, or he might not : p
00:34.26gauner1986to work or not to work
00:34.27gauner1986*mhm*
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00:35.18Scrizzhe needs his rest too
00:35.20Scrizz:P
00:35.27NeoFlux_We thought he was a machine :P
00:35.35tids2khe is .... but keep the voice low yeh
00:35.36NeoFlux_Hack his way through sleep :P
00:35.57Scrizzi think hwe accidentally went into hibernate
00:35.59NeoFlux_probably dreaming of fixing the issue :P
00:36.07NeoFlux_Scepterr lols
00:36.09NeoFlux_ick
00:36.11NeoFlux_Scrizz *
00:36.45Scrizzsomeone should poke him
00:37.03tids2kwp7 port will be available somewhere in august
00:37.13Scrizzsource?
00:37.16NeoFlux_tids2k rly?
00:37.24tids2kso enjoy android on hd2 till then
00:37.27NeoFlux_I think the devs should have a competition :D
00:37.45NeoFlux_wp7 dev team vs linux dev team
00:38.01gauner1986what prize?
00:38.02ScrizzLinux>win-anything
00:38.03tids2kwell one of my sources* have told me
00:38.14NeoFlux_gauner1986 porn, whatelse>
00:38.18tids2kone might come from cotulla as well
00:38.24gauner1986well.. okay
00:38.28gauner1986then it must be really good porn
00:38.37NeoFlux_real life porn
00:38.42Scrizz>_>
00:38.46NeoFlux_lols
00:38.51tids2khe is on something like a modified bootloader
00:39.08Scrizzsweet
00:39.13NeoFlux_tids2k, is cotulla working on the wp7 port as well or?
00:39.20tids2klol. just get "em a girl u pornaholics
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00:39.28tids2kask him :p
00:39.33Scrizzlol tids
00:39.54ppmanhas a ton of c/kernel development experience and a free night or two
00:40.06gauner1986ppman: then gogogo
00:40.07ppmanhow can I help get camera or other similar important tasks to raph?
00:40.11tids2kppman get on it
00:40.38ppmanwhich other devs are working on it
00:40.44gauner1986well.. start with leo bluescreen issues :D
00:40.51tids2kextract the camera from bravo replace the values and u r done .... hehehe
00:40.56Scrizzppman: looking for raph?
00:41.14gauner1986yeah
00:41.16ppmanlooking for it? no, I have it right here next to me ;)
00:41.20gauner1986replace the string bravo with raph
00:41.27ppmanbravo?
00:41.44tids2khehe .. was a joke :p
00:41.48nineX_i thought hd2 wasnt getting wp7
00:41.56AstainHellbringwtf bravo is a snapdragon chip
00:41.58gauner1986not officialy
00:41.59tids2k@ppman look at the git
00:42.02nineX_oh
00:42.13AstainHellbringnineX_ only if dag gives it to it
00:42.35tids2k@ninex officially it isnt, but ino
00:42.39nineX_eh, wm65 isnt as bad as people make it out to be imo
00:42.51NeoFlux_nineX_ It's a slow OS
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00:43.08tids2ki likw wm6.1 > wm 6.5
00:43.09AstainHellbringits terribly inefficient
00:43.20NeoFlux_exactly AstainHellbring
00:43.46ppmantids2k: bah, I've forgotten how to use git correctly
00:43.54ppmanI have the tree, how do I update?
00:43.55tids2kread wiki
00:44.02ppmanwhich?
00:44.08tids2kraph
00:44.20tids2kif u r after one
00:44.45tids2k~seen cotulla
00:44.47aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 8h 16m 43s ago, saying: 'so u can continue later'.
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00:45.08nineX_i think i would still take android over wp7
00:45.23tids2k~seen Netripper
00:45.24aptnetripper is currently on #htc-linux. Has said a total of 388 messages. Is idling for 5h 49m 2s, last said: 'sometimes'.
00:45.39AstainHellbringhell id take an iphone over wp7
00:45.45tids2khe he he
00:46.10tids2kiphone os 4 is fast but sucks on any updated ui
00:46.46ppmantids2k: still not getting it
00:46.47tids2kwish iphone had a keypad
00:46.52ppmanhow do I update my tree?
00:46.56tids2kthat would be awesome
00:47.08tids2kcan someone please help ppman
00:47.35tids2khow many of u guys use a keypad/board with hd2
00:48.21Magnusrilast one online was gauner1986
00:48.25ppmanah ha
00:48.27ppmanfound it
00:48.31Magnusrii don't think anyone online does it
00:48.33ppmanturns out I pulled wrong
00:49.07ppmanI pulled right off the branch, instead of checking out
00:49.14ppmanthat's why I've always had trouble with git
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00:50.17Scrizzglad u got it working
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00:53.13tids2kok guys, please everyone look at this link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684185
00:54.08tids2kI did post this thread but i am not sure whether this will work as a usb external keyboard or not
00:54.57Scrizzwe have bluetooth working?
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00:55.20tids2kthough it does state as a usb key/board
00:55.25ppman_convert to I2C,
00:55.29ppman_hack in there
00:56.25Scrizzyeah just saw the usb thing
00:57.17tids2kif it does oli think usb host driver would supporrt is
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00:58.47tids2kppman were u reffering it to me
00:59.00tids2kfor bluetooth or usb ?
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01:04.03ppman_nah, just stick a I2C keyboard controller in it, wire it directly ;)
01:04.40chris5932i don't think anyone tested bt alrdy
01:04.54chris5932it may works with minor modifications
01:06.10ShadowFoxBiHso any news?
01:07.51ShadowFoxBiHbsod fixed yet?
01:09.20Dex_nope.
01:09.31ShadowFoxBiHdamn
01:09.33Dex_devs havent been here in awhile
01:09.44ShadowFoxBiHoh well I guess I can give ubuntu a try
01:10.23Dex_too hard for me to use with the touchscreen
01:10.46ShadowFoxBiHso the touchscreen works?
01:11.07NeoFlux_ShadowFoxBiH, yep
01:11.09ShadowFoxBiHnice
01:11.18NeoFlux_Though, it's not a proper ts driver, it's a touchpad one, haha
01:11.24NeoFlux_needs calibrating in ubuntu though
01:11.26ShadowFoxBiHlol whatever works
01:11.42ShadowFoxBiHI just want a non bsod version of android to play with
01:12.11NeoFlux_ShadowFoxBiH, give them time :)
01:12.11chris5932be patient guys
01:12.11ShadowFoxBiHi know
01:12.11ShadowFoxBiHI dont expect them to fix everything overnight
01:12.12chris5932lol
01:12.12ShadowFoxBiHalthough they have been moving pretty fast
01:12.33NeoFlux_ShadowFoxBiH, yes they have this past week, but they were stuck with the segfault problem for months
01:12.36ShadowFoxBiHI have waited 3 months for them to get a working kernel
01:12.53ShadowFoxBiHso I can wait another 4 for them to get a working android version up
01:12.58ShadowFoxBiHyeah well cotulla is the man
01:13.29ShadowFoxBiHand dcordes as well
01:13.32ShadowFoxBiHcant forget him
01:13.51ShadowFoxBiHif i had some extra cash i would be donating right now
01:15.15ShadowFoxBiHi stopped reading the forum though like 100+ pages of crap
01:15.38Linuzzlol so the new gsm test build crashes even more then the old ts build
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01:15.52ShadowFoxBiHyeah i noticed that
01:16.05Dex_yeah. does the usb work for you in the gsm build?
01:16.21Linuzzhavent tried it yet
01:16.35ShadowFoxBiHI actually managed to send an sms and make a call
01:16.37ShadowFoxBiHno audio though
01:16.52Linuzzahh not bad
01:17.04ShadowFoxBiHyeah now we just need data and no bsod
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01:17.25ShadowFoxBiHanybody have any ideas what causes the bsod?
01:17.44Linuzzi had the phone working over 30 mins...by not using the widgets and stuff
01:17.52ShadowFoxBiHlol i cant do that mine just crashes
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01:18.03ShadowFoxBiHeven if i let it sit
01:18.50tids2kguys i just became resident of Australia.
01:18.54ShadowFoxBiHcongratz
01:19.02tids2kYahoooooooooo !!!!!
01:19.04Dex_woo congrats!
01:19.14tids2kwow wow wow
01:19.22Linuzzcool
01:19.26tids2kjust checked it and finally !!!!!!
01:19.46ShadowFoxBiHso has anybody tried the wifi out on ubuntu?
01:20.43Linuzzlol
01:20.47Linuzzdoes that even work?
01:20.52ShadowFoxBiHdont know
01:21.00ShadowFoxBiHi figured i would ask
01:21.09tids2ksee u all later... its party time ')
01:21.32chris5932wifi doesnt work for me
01:22.31Cassneeds kernel work
01:22.48ShadowFoxBiHwell this should be interesting though
01:22.55chris5932i guess dcordes had it working
01:22.58Casstried to fix on android earlier today and Cotulla confirmed there is more work to do
01:23.04ShadowFoxBiHyeah
01:23.06chris5932so it should work since its his ubuntu i use
01:23.07ShadowFoxBiHi figured as much
01:23.18ShadowFoxBiHyeah i will try it out as soon as it finished booting
01:24.16chris5932cass u tryed wifi?
01:24.28Cassyeah on android
01:24.33chris5932ah
01:24.41Casssame kernel same issues id expect
01:24.58chris5932thought decordes had it working
01:25.08chris5932didnt he post twitter message via hd2?
01:25.14Cassid like to see how he did it if so as it would be useful in droid
01:25.28Cassnever seen it .. looking now
01:25.51chris5932on the pictures you can also see the browser opened
01:26.16Dex_ohh yeahh.. hmm can we implement that to android?
01:26.58Cassyou have a link ?
01:27.03Casscant find on twitter
01:27.06ShadowFoxBiHThere are some drivers for USB audio and networking devices installed.
01:28.00Dex_http://twitpic.com/20cruy
01:28.25Dex_the browser is open and he has twitter page up ^^
01:28.53ShadowFoxBiHyeah according to the readme networking drivers are there
01:29.12Cassinteresting
01:29.29Casswhere can i find this ubuntu ?
01:29.50ShadowFoxBiHlol
01:29.52chris5932http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/hd2/hd2-ubuntu_0.1.zip
01:30.02Cassbcm4329 driver on kernel has lower level issues as ther driver cannot attach
01:30.04ShadowFoxBiHyeah
01:30.12Cassim interested in seeing where and how he gets it to work
01:30.14Casstx
01:30.31ShadowFoxBiHalright ubuntu booted
01:30.34Cassthat twitter post is 3 days old
01:30.48Dex_yeah it is
01:31.01Cass643 meg ffs
01:31.12Cassmonster
01:31.46chris5932no worrys, fast server
01:31.55Cass31mins :)
01:32.23Casswonder if he is usuing mad_wifi or something
01:32.30Cassid guess he is
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01:33.43ShadowFoxBiHhmm guess I am going to have to get usb peripherals
01:33.59chris5932build your own
01:38.17Cassanyone know anything about rild ?
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01:39.38chris5932he writes nothing about wifi in readme so i guess its not working on this image
01:39.50ppmanalright
01:39.58ppmanfinally dl'd my tree
01:40.02Casscan you grep the image for mad_wifi ?
01:40.07Cassim suspecting this is used
01:40.11ppmanCass: back in my day, I did some poking
01:40.13Cassif not it can be configured
01:40.22Cassi plan to do this as soon as it comes down
01:40.31Casseasy enough to compile and configure
01:40.37Casson x86 anyway
01:41.59chris5932i cant get his image on my 2gb card.. its too big
01:42.01chris5932damn
01:42.38ppmanah haret,
01:42.41ppmanthe fond memories
01:43.06ali1234hey everyone, the meego handset UI has just been released. it has that crucial dialer UI you need to make phone calls. no modem driver for N900 but that shouldn't matter if you're on HTC hardware (assuming you have a driver)
01:43.27Cass</advert>
01:43.31ppmanali1234: have they released source?
01:43.45Scrizz:O
01:43.47ali1234not sure but they said they would with the "big reveal" which is what just happened
01:44.05ppmanI'm thinking it's probably similar to mer
01:44.13ppmanwhich I've at least brought to poc on our phones
01:44.17ali1234nope, this is not maemo
01:44.28ppmanoh
01:44.32ali1234this is the new and supposedly much more open thing
01:44.40ppmanis it going to be relatively vanilla linux?
01:44.50ppmanor some totally strange thing like dalvik
01:44.56ali1234oh it's vanilla, yes
01:44.58ali1234like maemo
01:45.10ali1234but with much more open components. it's not just for nokia, meant to be a standard base
01:45.11ppmanlike, X11 compatible stuff?
01:45.12Cassmaemo some other thing fusion
01:45.17ali1234maemo + moblin
01:45.18chris5932it is maemo
01:45.25ShadowFoxBiHyeah the ts use of ubuntu sucks
01:45.30ShadowFoxBiHcant do much of anything
01:45.32chris5932its maemo 6 but they renamed it
01:45.33ali1234but with moer Qt and less gtk on handsets
01:45.42ppmanI think I'm in love
01:46.05ali1234it's more than a rename, but i don't want to get into that discussion
01:46.22ali1234point is, there should in theory now be a decent open source dialer app that everyone can use
01:46.38ppmandoes it use existing stuff
01:46.41ppmanofono?
01:46.46ali1234yes, ofono is part of it
01:47.00ppmanofono is really a joy to work with
01:47.22ali1234ofono is a nokia and intel project, same as meego
01:48.21ShadowFoxBiHlol i just realized i was using the wrong initrd file
01:48.37ShadowFoxBiHno wonder why it crashed for no reason
01:50.08chris5932http://thenokiablog.com/2010/06/30/meego-handset-ui/
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01:52.44ali1234http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-handset-ux
01:52.50ali1234^ source codes :)
01:52.59Scrizz:D
01:53.01zoziit's possible port maemo for HD2?
01:53.11ShadowFoxBiHyes
01:53.18zozibut??
01:53.25Scrizz?
01:53.26ali1234zozi: maemo has too many closed components for a port to be useful
01:53.36ali1234meego otoh, should be easy and actually worthwhile
01:53.41Scrizzyeah
01:53.53Scrizzon HD2 screen =<3
01:54.14chris5932yes meego > android imo
01:54.36Scrizzstill want android though
01:54.45ShadowFoxBiHyeah
01:54.50ShadowFoxBiHwe are getting closer with android
01:54.53chris5932well i want a working kernel
01:54.58Scrizzlol
01:55.00ali1234yes, kernel is always key
01:55.07ShadowFoxBiHlol and i want a million bucks
01:55.17ShadowFoxBiHnow lets see who's wish will come true
01:55.18Scrizzjust a milion?
01:55.29ShadowFoxBiHi can turn 1 into 100 easily
01:55.45Scrizzmeh just change the m to a b
01:56.01zozimaemo its underfull
01:56.20ali1234but those of us who already have a working kernel on our old old phones have been waiting for a way to make phone calls in a decent way for some time (on a vanilla linux that is, not android)
01:56.32zozimaemo is gorgeous, would look very nice on HD2
01:56.54ali1234maemo devices are all 800x480 screens
01:57.15ali1234so it would look the same :)
01:57.32Linuzzlol this would be awesome...i have this one http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/century-usb-display-lcd.jpg
01:57.45ShadowFoxBiHok anyone else having freezing problems?
01:57.47Linuzzand they have linux drivers for it
01:57.59CassShadowFoxBiH, on android ?
01:58.05ShadowFoxBiHyeah
01:58.25Cassyes everyone has freezinf issue and everyone has bsod issue
01:58.33Cassits all random
01:58.45ShadowFoxBiHhmm well i guess the old build was better
01:58.50ShadowFoxBiHsince it only had bsod issues
01:59.27Cassnot really .. all the same except for ril for the radio and its not the cause of the freezong  issues i have been up for hours and no crash / freeze /bsod
01:59.35Cassit depends on what you click sometimes
01:59.41ShadowFoxBiHlol i guess
01:59.47ShadowFoxBiHthe kernel needs quite a bit of work
01:59.50Scrizzthese are all early alpha builds
01:59.51Cassyep
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02:00.17ShadowFoxBiHwell at least we know we are somewhere no more segfaults
02:00.25Cassthis thing is rock solid if you dont use the gui :)
02:00.33Scrizz:)
02:00.36Scrizzadb ftw
02:00.44Cassyeah man
02:00.58llumleyHerro!
02:00.59Scrizzbtw which build are you using?
02:01.11llumleyAny new builds?
02:01.23Cassme ? im on the latest with the radio fix
02:01.26Scrizzk
02:01.29ShadowFoxBiHyeah same here
02:01.45Scrizzand no problems with adb, correct?
02:01.56ShadowFoxBiHnot that I saw
02:02.04Cassadb is fine, been connected for hrs
02:02.11llumleyUbuntu or android?
02:02.14Cassdroid
02:02.18llumleyany bsod fix?
02:02.27ShadowFoxBiHnope
02:02.31Cassthis is getting dull
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02:02.34llumleyDarn
02:02.43ShadowFoxBiHlol calm down guys one bit at a time
02:02.50ShadowFoxBiHthey just got android working
02:03.03ShadowFoxBiHlet alone get a stable version out
02:03.06Scrizzllumley: bsods aren't just caused by one thing
02:03.15Cassits all about failure for me today .. failed with wifi, bluetooth and data
02:03.24ShadowFoxBiHlol
02:03.34Scrizzwell at least you know what NOT to do
02:04.00Casswell at least i know wifi is low level kernel issue .. i suspect bluetooth is the same
02:04.06Scrizzhmm
02:04.20Cassand data, i guess ril is not correct yet either looking at logcat logs
02:04.42ShadowFoxBiHyeah
02:04.50Cassreplaced rild and stil no joy .. needs research more
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02:11.11ScrizzCass: How did you get it to communicate with adb?
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02:22.30Unholystinebd you here?
02:22.38stinebdUnholy: yes
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02:29.00BlackRhinoTime to change the password =/
02:29.03Casslol
02:29.06Cassfuck it
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02:29.42Cassill blame the win 7 crash i just had ..
02:31.15Cassscrizz .. anyone answer the adb Q before i crashed ?
02:35.43BlackRhinoI dont see anything relevent from your lost connection to now.
02:38.05Cassok thanks .. i guess he is off doing something else
02:38.50Cassand so will i .. sleep .. nn all
02:39.15Dex_bb
02:40.19llumleydirka dirka
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02:47.21Sheraz150been gone for awhile, BSOD issues fixed yet?
02:52.10Dex_nope
02:53.01Sheraz150:(
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03:22.41r3c130nhi
03:23.05r3c130nwho has a latest build of Image?
03:23.35Linuzzits posted in the forum
03:23.49Linuzzpage...253
03:24.25r3c130nthnx
03:24.37Linuzzhttp://media2a.com/android/Android_Boot_Test_TS_GSM.zip
03:27.30nineX_hopefully cotulla will be back tomorrow with more goodies
03:28.02Scrizzi blame Cass
03:28.04Scrizz>_>
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03:40.15r3c130nin Russia we have morning now =)
03:40.26ShadowFoxBiHlol
03:40.35r3c130nCotulla too =)
03:40.58r3c130n11:40 p.m. on my clock
03:41.10r3c130n11:40 a.m.
03:41.19Linuzz05:41 am here
03:42.16r3c130nin Moscow now 07:42 am
03:42.41ShadowFoxBiH11:41 pm here
03:42.54r3c130nShadowFoxBiH u'r from NY?
03:43.03ShadowFoxBiHnope Florida
03:43.47r3c130n12 hours difference betwen U and me =)
03:44.06ShadowFoxBiHhah yeah i noticed
03:44.08r3c130nthats work Time Machine
03:44.39Linuzzlol so i can go back in time :P all i have to do is travel to usa
03:44.45Scrizzomg who's in Florida
03:44.55Scrizzme too
03:44.59Scrizzomg
03:45.17ShadowFoxBiHlol where are you at scrizz?
03:45.25Scrizztampabay area
03:45.28Scrizz:D
03:45.31ShadowFoxBiHhahah seriously?
03:45.34Scrizzyeah
03:45.38Scrizzbrandon actually
03:45.39ShadowFoxBiHwhat county?
03:45.40Scrizz:P
03:45.47Scrizzhillsborough
03:45.50ShadowFoxBiHoh lol I'm just north of you
03:45.52ShadowFoxBiHpasco county
03:45.55Scrizzeww
03:45.57Scrizzjp
03:46.05ShadowFoxBiHlol trust me i know its eww
03:46.11ShadowFoxBiHbut housing is cheaper
03:46.24Scrizzwell it's gone down in price here
03:46.26Scrizzso
03:46.27Scrizz:D
03:46.28ShadowFoxBiHyeah
03:46.34ShadowFoxBiHbut its bad here
03:46.44ShadowFoxBiHyou can find houses for less than 100k now
03:46.53ShadowFoxBiHwith 3 bedrooms and a pool
03:47.12Scrizzyeah
03:47.25Scrizzb4 it was ~300k
03:47.29ShadowFoxBiHyeah
03:47.31ShadowFoxBiHgive or take
03:47.43ShadowFoxBiHI just bought a house 3 months ago
03:47.46Dex_anyone know how to get sense on hd2?
03:47.56ShadowFoxBiHwhat do you mean sense?
03:48.07r3c130nhtc android sense
03:48.12Dex_yeah
03:48.14ShadowFoxBiHnot possible
03:48.18Scrizzyet
03:48.21ShadowFoxBiHyeah
03:48.23Dex_i read some guy did it ealier
03:48.27ShadowFoxBiHlol where?
03:48.30Dex_hmm ok
03:48.32Unholytry a system img from the blackstone forum
03:48.34Unholymight work
03:48.43Unholythey have 2.1 with sense ui
03:48.45ShadowFoxBiHwe dont even have a stable android build
03:48.52ShadowFoxBiHand i prefer good old vanilla UI
03:48.56Scrizzsame
03:49.25ShadowFoxBiHthe AOSP version they are using for alpha is nice for me
03:49.37ShadowFoxBiHas long as we get 2.2 i am good
03:49.41ShadowFoxBiHdont need the crappy sense ui
03:49.53ShadowFoxBiHjust slows down the phone
03:50.00Linuzzmaby we could "port" XPERIA X1´s interface ...i really like the cool animation and stuff they made
03:50.11r3c130nour 1GHz phone?
03:50.11ShadowFoxBiHlol
03:50.21Dex_http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7008656&postcount=2413
03:50.30ShadowFoxBiHyeah the sense ui slows down the phone especially on win mo
03:50.49Ondalfwell, compare win and linux
03:50.53ShadowFoxBiHtrue
03:50.55Ondalfirrelevant.
03:51.07ShadowFoxBiHbut still even the Hero running androind runs a but sluggish at times
03:51.14ShadowFoxBiHand the evo is no god send either
03:51.16nineX_22:48… ShadowFoxBiH: and i prefer good old vanilla UI
03:51.17nineX_same here
03:51.30nineX_i like the sense widgets though
03:51.37ShadowFoxBiHyeah the weather widget is nice
03:51.38Ondalfmaybe 'cause hero doesn't have enough juice to run, or optimizations are missing?
03:51.45ShadowFoxBiHand the evo ?
03:52.04ShadowFoxBiHthe sense ui is built on top of android and hence sucks extra resrouces
03:52.13ShadowFoxBiHI prefer the goold old UI
03:52.25ShadowFoxBiHsomething about the way it looks makes me prefer it
03:52.33Ondalferr, every feature is built _on_ android structure, if i'm correct
03:52.50Ondalfso its just desktop ui, nothing else
03:53.04Ondalfprogram that runs on X
03:53.06ShadowFoxBiHtrue but its sucking extra resources i can prove that
03:53.31ShadowFoxBiHcompare the N1 and the EVO and you will see
03:53.35Ondalfvalgrind it then! it probably is just random memory leak.
03:53.42ShadowFoxBiHthe N1 with stock 2.1 runs faster than EVO with Sense UI
03:53.45Ondalfwell, without sources its impossible
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03:55.15ShadowFoxBiHeach to his own though
03:55.19ShadowFoxBiHI just like the vanilla UI
03:55.27ShadowFoxBiHand 3.0 is supposed to be getting a revamped UI
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03:55.51ShadowFoxBiHand a lot of phones are going to be cut from the update list
03:55.59Scrizznexus evo same proc
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03:57.18ShadowFoxBiHalthough it will be interesting to see if XDA ports over 3.0 for the HD2
03:57.23Ondalfhumm, and different network subsystem - CDMA and GSM. dunno if it does altern situation much
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03:57.33Ondalfabout n1 and evo
03:57.36Scrizzno it's sense
03:57.53ShadowFoxBiHI feel its sense as well
03:58.09Scrizzlook at g1
03:58.16Scrizzw/ sense is nightmare
03:58.22ShadowFoxBiHtrue
03:58.58Ondalfdunno about nightmare since so far almost all builds for kaiser has been more than nightmare
03:59.15ShadowFoxBiHtrue but i found that roms not using the sense ui for the HD2 run faster
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04:01.53Ondalfseems its vista running on linux then :P
04:01.59ShadowFoxBiHlol yeah
04:02.06ShadowFoxBiHthats what it feels like
04:03.04Ondalfhmm, kaiser feels vista running on celeron 400mhz with 128mb ram and slow hdd with max 1mb/s read speed
04:03.17ShadowFoxBiHyeah that is sad
04:03.33ShadowFoxBiHdamn i wish they would get a bsod fix going
04:03.45Ondalfbut, current 2.1 i found had already some optimizations enabled
04:03.46ShadowFoxBiHcause I love looking at the vanilla UI on the HD2
04:03.54Scrizzdude multiple things are causing bsod
04:03.54Ondalfi'm still waiting JIT which comes in 2.2
04:04.08ShadowFoxBiHi know im not expecting a fix overnight
04:04.11ShadowFoxBiHbut one can dream
04:04.25Ondalfno-one sues for dreaming ;)
04:04.57Scrizzi will be the first
04:05.00Scrizz!!
04:05.05ShadowFoxBiHhahah good luck
04:05.21Scrizzwe should definitely create a new channel
04:05.28ShadowFoxBiHalthough ubuntu is fun to play with
04:05.38ShadowFoxBiHjust need the keyboard and mouse
04:05.56ShadowFoxBiHeven though i am wondering how dcordes got it in landscape mode
04:06.39Scrizzwell gnight peeps
04:06.48ShadowFoxBiHnightg
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04:10.57CicatrizeDoes anyone know if dmesg shows anything other than kernel messages?
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04:13.53llumleyHerro?
04:15.45Ondalfohai
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04:23.28nineX_hi llumley
04:23.42llumleyOh hai!
04:24.04ShadowFoxBiHlol i just got my phone to run android for longer than 30 seconds
04:24.20nineX_zzzzz i just posted on xda
04:24.31nineX_why is everyone continually running android over and over
04:24.42ShadowFoxBiHlol just to play with it
04:24.51nineX_but its soooooooo unstable
04:25.01ShadowFoxBiHso what
04:25.32ShadowFoxBiHbetter to have unstable android than stable win mo
04:25.40nineX_ahahahahahahahah
04:25.50nineX_true
04:26.01ShadowFoxBiHI cant even get swype to work and the aim app for win mo
04:26.05ShadowFoxBiHyeah right
04:26.20nineX_but i'm not going to run the chance of bricking over trying something
04:26.37llumleyDamn.  My android will run forever, if I dont use it a ton.
04:26.51ShadowFoxBiHkind of hard to brick your phone since haret doesnt flash anything
04:27.12ShadowFoxBiHit only temporarily flashes over the rom
04:27.19ShadowFoxBiHbut afte a soft reset that goes away
04:27.41ShadowFoxBiHand if you brick it you are good since you technically didnt void your warranty
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04:29.32ShadowFoxBiHha now that is what i am talking about
04:29.37ShadowFoxBiH6.38 mbps downlaod
04:30.17Linuzzwhere
04:30.21ShadowFoxBiHlol where i live
04:30.26Linuzzoh
04:30.42ShadowFoxBiHT-Mo has HSPA+ up and running so the speeds are pretty awesome
04:32.32BlackRhino@shadow, where?
04:32.41ShadowFoxBiHTampa Bay, Florida
04:32.59BlackRhinonot here yet....   Minneapolis, M
04:33.01BlackRhinoMN
04:33.11ShadowFoxBiHyeah its in plan so dont worry
04:33.12BlackRhinothe H icon teases me tho.
04:33.19ShadowFoxBiHi dont see an H icon
04:33.21ShadowFoxBiHever
04:33.30ShadowFoxBiHi just see 3G
04:33.47BlackRhinowhat rom?
04:33.54ShadowFoxBiH2.13.531.1
04:34.23ShadowFoxBiHalthough what is the latest radio version
04:34.41BlackRhinoIm running 2.11.50.20
04:34.47llumleyDude, your in minneapolis!?
04:34.50BlackRhinoyea
04:34.51ShadowFoxBiHhmm i might have to update mine
04:34.54llumleyEagan here man.
04:34.57BlackRhinoWell, north of minneapolis
04:35.00BlackRhinoCoon rapids
04:35.17llumleyWord.
04:35.25BlackRhino@shadow
04:35.25BlackRhinohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694868
04:35.29BlackRhinoworks best for me.
04:36.45ShadowFoxBiHit works for the HD2?
04:36.51BlackRhinoyep
04:36.53BlackRhinotmo
04:37.07ShadowFoxBiHhmm how did you flash it ?
04:37.18BlackRhinodownload that
04:37.28BlackRhinorename the file inside to LEOIMG
04:37.46ShadowFoxBiHalright and then what?
04:37.52BlackRhinofinding link... 1 moment.
04:38.17BlackRhinoI lied
04:38.25BlackRhinorename to RUU_Signed.nbh
04:38.32BlackRhinoor LEOIMG.nbh  both may work
04:38.38BlackRhinouse this to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4798017&postcount=1
04:38.47llumleyI was getting terrible reception with that 2.12.
04:38.57BlackRhinosame
04:39.14llumleyWent back to 2.10
04:39.27BlackRhinoThat wont show the H icon iirc
04:39.54ppmandoes rhod have a compass?
04:40.19llumleyWhats that?  The 2.10?
04:40.36ShadowFoxBiHso the 2.11 radio works fine rhino?
04:40.53BlackRhinoShadow, its my favorite so far
04:40.55BlackRhinomost stable
04:41.01ShadowFoxBiHalright awesome cant wait
04:41.04BlackRhinoFOR ME, and 2 other people that lives in MN
04:41.10ShadowFoxBiHi keep having issues with my phone and the signal
04:41.20ShadowFoxBiHi live about 400 meters from the tower
04:41.22ShadowFoxBiHand i get 3 bars
04:42.02llumleyHrm.  I get the H with 2.10.  Im also running Kumars Rom though.
04:42.11ShadowFoxBiHI dont get the H ever
04:43.24llumleyMine does it whenever I start data transmission.
04:43.43BlackRhinoLLumley the same happens to me.
04:44.10BlackRhinoI presueme when it officially launches, we will always get H
04:44.15BlackRhinowho knows
04:44.20BlackRhinoHURRY UP TMOBILE!
04:44.26llumleyI would think so.
04:44.41ShadowFoxBiHhmm it wont let me flash the 2.11 rom
04:44.53llumleyI think im gonna scoop up one of those Samsung Vibrants come July
04:46.21BlackRhinoI cant "switch" phones that fast
04:46.39BlackRhinonot sure how all you guys do it unless paying full price.
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04:47.11ShadowFoxBiHcustomruu want to instal 2.10.50.19_2
04:47.15llumleyCraigslist man.
04:47.25BlackRhinoyes shadow
04:47.33llumleyI buy and sell em about every other month.
04:47.34ShadowFoxBiHok so that is the right radio ?
04:47.39BlackRhino@llumley not for brand spankin new ones?
04:47.47BlackRhinoshadow it shows up weirdly
04:47.50BlackRhinojust update.
04:47.57ShadowFoxBiHok
04:47.58ShadowFoxBiHupdating now
04:48.42llumleyNo, I scooped up a G1 a while back for like 75 bucks,  Dude needed money real bad so I told him I would meet him right away.  Used it for about 3 weeks and sold it for 150.
04:49.01llumleyI have a blackberry 9700 I got for 200 off CL.
04:49.13ShadowFoxBiHI stopped using CL after some moron sold me a broken phone
04:49.23llumleyOuch.
04:49.24ShadowFoxBiHi unloaded it one someone else for the same price
04:49.34llumleyLOL!!!
04:50.23ShadowFoxBiHalthough I do sell phones on CL often
04:50.27ShadowFoxBiHbut I like my HD2
04:50.35ShadowFoxBiHi refuse to buy samsung products
04:50.49llumleyYea.  I like the HD2.  Ill be keeping this for a while.
04:51.00ShadowFoxBiHlol no H
04:51.03ShadowFoxBiHjust 3G
04:51.16llumleyI sold the Mytouch a couple weeks ago.   So i need to get another "stable" android phone.
04:51.25llumleyWell, im off to bed.
04:51.28llumleyTake it easy
04:51.38ShadowFoxBiHtake care
04:52.03BlackRhinoI want... an HD2, with android, with a physical keyboard
04:52.14BlackRhinoI'll be super happy.
04:52.16ShadowFoxBiHlol and I want a stable version of android right now
04:52.22ShadowFoxBiHone can only ask for so much
04:52.44ShadowFoxBiHI guess if you want you can ask Mr. HTC and see if he has santa drop it off for you
04:54.21ShadowFoxBiHok well the radio works
04:54.29BlackRhinoalways a bonus
04:54.38ShadowFoxBiHgave me a scare there for a second cause my data didnt want to work
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04:56.50ShadowFoxBiHyeah this radio is nicer i dont see my phone constantly dropping between 3 and 4 bars
04:57.29BlackRhinoIt will get pissy at 1 bar but tends to work.
04:58.18ShadowFoxBiHyeah well it annoys me because it should be 4 bars
04:58.35ShadowFoxBiHstill no H though
04:58.37ShadowFoxBiHwhich is weird
04:58.55BlackRhinoIm using the energy ROM
04:59.08ShadowFoxBiHnice i haven tried flashing a rom yet
04:59.12BlackRhinoit shows up there, and the recent one showed me an optopm tp turn off.
04:59.14ShadowFoxBiHdont feel like having to do a hard reset
04:59.17BlackRhino*option to turn off
04:59.43ShadowFoxBiHi dont want microsoft myphone syncing 2k texts
04:59.49BlackRhinoThats probably why then, custom roms tends to have fancy stuff.
05:00.01ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:00.05BlackRhinoAnyways im offf.
05:00.14ShadowFoxBiHalright night
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05:10.18trinoi live in usa california so what time in us does cotulla come on?
05:10.31borsteh...............
05:10.45borstehwhy
05:10.58trinowould like to read chat as it happens
05:11.03trinomaybe join in
05:11.10borstehjoin in how?
05:11.13borstehhelp with the dev or
05:12.45trinohelp with dev. all that i can kinda noob but i understand whats going on
05:14.47borstehmmm
05:15.09borstehid say he wont be here  for at least another few more hours
05:15.34trinook cool
05:15.39ShadowFoxBiHyeah dont expect much today unless they somehow fix the bsod issue
05:16.41ShadowFoxBiHalthough ubuntu is a full go
05:16.44trinoyeah i am trying to run gsm build but... bsod before i can get past the tutorial
05:16.46ShadowFoxBiHjust the TC sucks
05:16.57ShadowFoxBiHi got mine to run for like 5 minutes once
05:17.20trinoand i cant get it to come back like the previous build by hitting a button
05:17.37FlawlesStyletrino he gets on in about 7 hours (if he does the same thing as yesterday and the day before)
05:17.38ShadowFoxBiHhmm that works fine for me
05:18.01trinook thanks
05:18.04ShadowFoxBiHalthough if you really want check out ubuntu
05:18.09ShadowFoxBiHits fun to play with
05:18.14ShadowFoxBiHif you have the usb peripherals
05:18.52trinobut the ubuntu is same as desktop or netbook verion
05:19.02ShadowFoxBiHits the netbook version i think
05:19.18ShadowFoxBiHbut running karmic kola on the HD2 is hot
05:20.10borstehliteral hot or
05:20.13borstehlike
05:20.17borsteh"damn shes hot"
05:20.17borsteh:P
05:20.21ShadowFoxBiHnot literal
05:20.50ShadowFoxBiHI was showing all my iphone peers ubuntu on my HD2 and they were jealous as hell
05:21.27borstehwhats awesome about it?
05:21.44ShadowFoxBiHlol its a full desktop with wifi
05:21.57borstehwhy would i need a full desktop
05:21.59borstehhahaha
05:22.08ShadowFoxBiHcause its pretty cool
05:22.10borstehbut i guess the idea of it is nice
05:22.25borstehsec, gotta log off vpn
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05:24.21trinoi had a g1 and loved it except it was laggy... but android is awesome then i dropped it in the toilet, damn, then bought my hd 2 and realized win mo sucks
05:24.37Linuzzlol
05:25.47ShadowFoxBiHyeah win mo sucks
05:25.59ShadowFoxBiHhonestly I prefer the unstable android over win mo
05:26.01trinoso do we know what direction to start fixing bsod
05:26.08ShadowFoxBiHi cant even use swype
05:26.22trinoShadow: me too
05:27.01ShadowFoxBiHI tried aim for win mo it keeps freezing and crashing the entire phone
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05:27.55trinoI concur
05:28.02ShadowFoxBiHas for the bsod problem there seems to be multiple causes for it
05:28.09ShadowFoxBiHmight take some time to fix it
05:28.17ShadowFoxBiHbut i have faith in cotulla and dcordes
05:28.40trinoi do aswell
05:30.33IncognitoMan<ShadowFoxBiH> honestly I prefer the unstable android over win mo
05:30.35IncognitoManso sad
05:30.38IncognitoMan....but so true
05:30.42ShadowFoxBiHyeah i know trust me
05:30.45ShadowFoxBiHI hate win mo
05:30.53IncognitoManalthough i dont know
05:31.01ShadowFoxBiHi have problems with the keyboard all the time
05:31.02IncognitoMani would worship old win 6.5 over WP7
05:31.19trinobsod is my new best friend
05:31.19borstehhavent tried wp7
05:31.22borstehhard to judge.
05:31.22ShadowFoxBiHand I worship Vanilla 2.1 compared to 6.5
05:31.32IncognitoManborsteh, you know iphone?
05:31.42borstehyeah
05:31.43ShadowFoxBiHI would kiss the feet of the man who gets us a working 2.1 port
05:31.43IncognitoMantake that and make it 20x worse
05:31.47borstehwell
05:31.49IncognitoManlol
05:31.50borstehuve tried it?
05:31.52borstehon a device?
05:31.56IncognitoManthat little device
05:32.00IncognitoMankin
05:32.05ShadowFoxBiHkin doesnt run win 7
05:32.08trinokin is dead
05:32.10borstehisnt that pink
05:32.12IncognitoManwhatever that thing is
05:32.17borstehnot wp7
05:32.22ShadowFoxBiHyeah its now wp7
05:32.25ShadowFoxBiHnot*
05:32.53ShadowFoxBiHand the kin is officially dead
05:33.03IncognitoManwhat was that little device?
05:33.22ShadowFoxBiHwhat device?
05:33.37FlawlesStylehttp://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Port_Status time to start a Leo column, unfortunately with just about all red No's
05:34.11IncognitoMantries to find it
05:35.01ShadowFoxBiHlol well flawless we just got over the segfaults and according to dcordes they are taking a lot of drivers from the desire
05:35.05ShadowFoxBiHsince its the same hardware
05:35.33IncognitoManoh
05:35.36IncognitoManyall are right
05:35.39IncognitoManim sorry
05:35.51ShadowFoxBiHwe should have the best port of android
05:36.03ShadowFoxBiHsince HTC did a favor and kept the same hardware
05:36.30IncognitoManwants sound for his tp2....
05:36.41IncognitoManthen i would be all set
05:36.46FlawlesStyleyeah progress just seems crazy fast now that the segfaults are done
05:36.56ShadowFoxBiHyeah well the drivers are coming from other phones
05:37.00ShadowFoxBiHexcept for the touchscreen
05:37.21ShadowFoxBiHthat is the only problem we had till cotulla came along and gave us a generic driver
05:37.43ShadowFoxBiHeventuall i expect a fully working driver
05:38.54ShadowFoxBiH<ShadowFoxBiH> how are the drivers coming along if i may ask
05:38.55ShadowFoxBiH<dcordes> you know
05:38.55ShadowFoxBiH<dcordes> wants the initial support is there
05:38.55ShadowFoxBiH<dcordes> everything just falls into places
05:38.55ShadowFoxBiH<dcordes> won't be long until you can use it as everyday phone..
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05:40.04ShadowFoxBiH<ShadowFoxBiH> out of curiosity can we use some of the drivers from the desire ?
05:40.04ShadowFoxBiH<dcordes> yes we are doin this already
05:40.04ShadowFoxBiH<dcordes> the thing that fixed segfault error was looked up from desire bootloader
05:40.04ShadowFoxBiH<dcordes> but desire almost equlas nexus
05:40.04ShadowFoxBiH<ShadowFoxBiH> yeah with the exception of the TS
05:40.04ShadowFoxBiH<dcordes> these devices share lots of hardware
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05:41.00ShadowFoxBiHwell that is from dcordes himself
05:41.23trinook so what about wifi
05:41.36ShadowFoxBiHwell its all part of the drivers package
05:41.39nineX_i'm suprised more stuff isnt coming from evo
05:41.50nineX_seeing as hardware is almost identical
05:41.50ShadowFoxBiHonce they get the drivers setup i am guessing we will get wifi with full n support
05:41.51trinoright but is it same wifi from desire?
05:42.03ShadowFoxBiHninex the hardware is completely different for the evo
05:42.08FlawlesStyleevo definitely doesn't have as much in common as the nexus
05:42.09nineX_orly?
05:42.14ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:42.18ShadowFoxBiHcompletely different
05:42.21nineX_hmmmm
05:42.23FlawlesStyleaside from looking similar
05:42.25ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:42.27ShadowFoxBiHthat is about it
05:42.35nineX_evo doesnt have snapdragon?
05:42.44ShadowFoxBiHit does but different drivers
05:42.48nineX_hmmmm
05:42.52nineX_ok
05:42.58ShadowFoxBiHsince it usese 802.16m
05:43.06ShadowFoxBiHcompletely different radio
05:43.19ShadowFoxBiHand the TS drivers are not even close
05:43.38FlawlesStylejust imagine the headlines on engadget and gizmodo "Fully working Froyo port on HD2" :D
05:43.45ShadowFoxBiHlol one day
05:43.53ShadowFoxBiHand I expect gingerbread as well
05:44.10ShadowFoxBiHsince our phones meets the specs for gingerbread
05:44.13trinolol tomorrow? one day?
05:44.23ShadowFoxBiHone day let them finish 2.1
05:44.28ShadowFoxBiHand then we can wait for 2.2
05:44.46FlawlesStyleyeah 2.2 xdandroid is barely alpha
05:44.49ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:45.46FlawlesStylehopefully this week we can see a decrease in bsod's, my back cover is loose
05:46.02ShadowFoxBiHlol I leave mine off while i test android
05:46.07ShadowFoxBiHbut i stopped testing it no use
05:47.26FlawlesStylei was able to get a nice 45m session in last night, tested pictures, gallery, music, gsm
05:47.58FlawlesStyleafter it bsod'd i figured i might as well just wait till the next release
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05:49.11ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:49.14trinodang 45 did you try market
05:49.21ShadowFoxBiHdoensnt work
05:49.22ShadowFoxBiHno data
05:49.24FlawlesStyleyeah, just said need network
05:49.39ShadowFoxBiHi barely get 5 minutes if i am lucky
05:50.25FlawlesStyleturn off all winmo power management, and then disable sounds and animations in android and it tends to stay as long as you want, unless it runs on the faster clock
05:50.50ShadowFoxBiHwin mo power management?
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05:51.19FlawlesStyleif i get to the xdandroid boot splash at 23 seconds, i stay in android, if its already up to like 60s by the time it gets to the splash i just restart it right away
05:51.40ShadowFoxBiHhmm
05:52.04ShadowFoxBiHwell i get a BSOD often so i dont bother
05:52.05FlawlesStyleyeah i just set the backlighting to not turn off ever, and turn everything but phone off in connections
05:52.14ShadowFoxBiHhmm that might work
05:52.18ShadowFoxBiHlet me try that
05:53.53FlawlesStylehave fun, i'mma catch a bit of sleep
05:53.58ShadowFoxBiHalright night
05:55.01trinonn
05:55.41ShadowFoxBiHha it works awesome
05:56.24ShadowFoxBiHhaha awesome as fuck
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05:57.43trinono bsod?
05:57.47ShadowFoxBiHyeah
05:59.41lpsi2000[A]is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 120 minutes
05:59.54ShadowFoxBiHjust turn the data off
06:00.33trinosweet but volume down button auto freeze
06:00.34trinolol
06:00.47ShadowFoxBiHlol then dont touch it
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06:03.01fleixiusHow would I go about applying a kernel update to my android 2.2? Would I do this over adb modifying the /system folder
06:03.11ShadowFoxBiHyeah I would think so
06:04.42ShadowFoxBiHalthough you would be better off going to android dev channel
06:05.54ShadowFoxBiHhmm i am going to try sending a text again and see if it works
06:05.57ShadowFoxBiHlast time i had some issues
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06:07.52trino@shadow i got it to work
06:08.04ShadowFoxBiHi got it to send a text
06:08.11ShadowFoxBiHand then bsod
06:08.59trinobut as flwawles said after that its kinda pointless to keep playing cuz no data
06:09.06ShadowFoxBiHyeah and bsod
06:09.22ShadowFoxBiHonce they get it stable and a few drivers going i plan on using it
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06:10.29trinoas do we all i think
06:11.45ShadowFoxBiHwin mo blows nuts
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06:12.11ShadowFoxBiHalthough that jackass that says to install android as a rom i dont know has anyone tried that?
06:12.42Linuzzwithout windows mobile we wouldnt be able to run android or linux and windows 95 ...at the SAME phone xD
06:13.08ShadowFoxBiHtrue
06:13.16ShadowFoxBiHdoesnt mean win mo doesnt suck
06:15.23Linuzzand it might even have Windows Phone 7 :P
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06:15.36trinoi dont know all the legals but if i were htc and google i would have had this rom done already
06:15.36Linuzzso its a true god phone
06:15.53ShadowFoxBiHyeah
06:16.59Linuzzwell thats the problem ...its not built for android...the bootloader and so on
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06:17.11Linuzzand the 3 partitions
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06:17.19Linuzzin the memory
06:17.37ShadowFoxBiHlol
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06:17.55ShadowFoxBiHit would be nice if could completely get rid of win mo and just build the bootloader directly into the phone
06:17.59trinobut the hardware is so perfect for android
06:18.05ShadowFoxBiHyeah i know
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06:20.01nineX_ShadowFoxBiH: is that even a possibility?
06:20.06ShadowFoxBiHi doubt it
06:20.11nineX_:(
06:20.16ShadowFoxBiHit would require hard flashing the phone
06:20.43ShadowFoxBiHi mean anything is possible
06:20.49ShadowFoxBiHbut it wont be done through haret
06:21.37trinowhich also means chance of bricking
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06:21.58ShadowFoxBiHyeah
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06:23.25ShadowFoxBiHyou run the chance of bricking everytime you flash a rom too but the thing is you can go through recovery and fix that
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06:24.20ShadowFoxBiHalthough personally i dont find any of the roms to my liking so i just stick with the stock
06:24.39fleixiusShadowFoxBiH, what device do you have
06:24.45ShadowFoxBiHHD2
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06:26.56hunterkllsoup
06:26.58Linuzzhttp://www.omnia-repair.com... i bought one of those.... and it works on HD2 aswell :] repairs the qualcomm, if the phone bricks
06:27.16hunterkllfixed bsod on hd2
06:27.17fleixiusAh gotcha - I finally got out of the winmo world.
06:27.44ShadowFoxBiHhow did it fix bsod?
06:28.09hunterkllswapped it for my gfs g1
06:28.20hunterkll:)
06:28.23ShadowFoxBiHnice
06:28.29ShadowFoxBiHwell good luck with the G1
06:28.32hunterkllhardly
06:28.45ShadowFoxBiHi will stick with my HD2 and wait to see how dcordes and cotulla do
06:28.49hunterklli was trying to get a big crowd reaction
06:28.53hunterkllit was a joke
06:28.54hunterklllol
06:29.03ShadowFoxBiHoh lol
06:29.10ShadowFoxBiHi was about to say you are stupid
06:29.15hunterklllol
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06:32.54ShadowFoxBiHwell I hope we get the BSOD issue fixed
06:33.35ShadowFoxBiHI got my peep app up and running on my hd2 waiting for a tweet from dcordes or cotulla
06:34.25Dex_whats cotullas twitter?
06:34.46ShadowFoxBiHi just got by the htc twitte
06:34.48ShadowFoxBiHtwitter
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06:36.14ShadowFoxBiHwell time for me to get some sleep
06:36.16ShadowFoxBiHnight
06:36.43Linuzznight
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06:38.46BigDaDDyMorning :)
06:40.52nineX_01:27… hunterkll: swapped it for my gfs g1
06:41.00nineX_i just did the opposite actually :D
06:41.10nineX_g1 life is boring
06:41.17nineX_cyanogenmod and you're done
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06:44.18borstehLinuzz; works on the hd2? :O
06:44.23borstehtried it before?
06:44.56LinuzzTried what? :)
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06:48.01Linuzzif you mean linux...not yet..i just ordered a cable to power the usb
06:48.08Linuzz:P
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06:53.51anno65120so what is the status?
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06:57.19hunterkllnineX_ cyano rox :p
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07:02.45relekI just wanted to thank everyone for their hard work on this project.
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07:03.43releklike netripper, decordes, and the rest of the gang
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07:46.05joplayer~seen Cotulla
07:46.08aptcotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 15h 18m 4s ago, saying: 'so u can continue later'.
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07:48.06BigDaDDysooooooooo
07:48.09BigDaDDyweak day eh?
07:48.39BigDaDDysince android boots on the hd2 and there's hope i grew careless about anything WinMo... new roms, applications, whatever...
07:48.50BigDaDDydont think i'm gonna continue flashing new roms :P
07:48.57BigDaDDyseems so useless :(
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07:52.10Hellbleazer-Awayenergyrom is not useless :P
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07:53.19BigDaDDyi know, i have the latest dinik glass rom :P
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07:53.35Redimorning all
07:53.36BigDaDDythought i like GTX way better, i hope it gets CHT 1.8
07:53.40BigDaDDy*though
07:56.28stunt1nIMO energy roms are the best... and they have 3x the traffic any other chef has so.. eff them for not giving him 5 stars
07:56.59BigDaDDyyeh
07:57.04BigDaDDyshould get 5* :P
07:57.27Redidoes anyone know how to perge the list of APNs in the android build on the HD2?
07:57.34stunt1ni laff at any other rom that gets 5*
07:57.45RediGTX here - love it
07:57.58stunt1nsorry cant help.. ive always wanted to flash a gtx
07:58.00Redi(energy GTX, that is)
07:58.12Rediso stable - almost makes me forget its on winmo :(
07:58.12BigDaDDyGTX isn't CHT 1.8 :( :( :(
07:58.21stunt1ni think maxsense and that are the only ones i havent flashed
07:58.33stunt1ni think were on 1.8.5.1 maybe lol
07:58.41BigDaDDymaxsense sucks
07:58.50RediArtemis blows chunks
07:58.50stunt1nthats how it looks
07:59.02stunt1nelegancia gave me super touch screen spazm issues
07:59.11RediEnergy GTX actually looks nice which is what keeps me happy :)
07:59.14stunt1ni feel retarted and that its caused by user error almost
07:59.18stunt1nany suggestions?
07:59.53Rediriddle me this batman; everytime i perge all the .rec files from the SDcard Andriod BSODS during kernel init. 2nd time it boots fine though?
08:00.01stunt1nnot installing apps seems to have solved it... or the newest manila core from the 26th
08:00.21darkstonei can't seem to boot in non-speedy mode :(
08:02.09stunt1nim still uber impressed with the recent movement! everyone helping is awesome
08:05.11Redidarkstone; all random - you'll get there eventually :)
08:06.13darkstoneits annoying
08:06.18darkstoneive booted 20 times in a row
08:06.30darkstoneall speedy mode which leads to crashes
08:06.37darkstoneim trying to boot a sense build
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08:10.06darkstone:( this is hopeless
08:10.11darkstonetries another image
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08:13.28maxldyeah
08:13.32maxldfirst bsod of the day
08:13.41maxldjust after 5 seconds :D
08:13.55Redii've found that the copy and paste method in text boxes on android is a life saver :)
08:14.06Redifind a "." and store that bad boy in your clipboard :D
08:15.06darkstoneYES
08:15.09darkstoneNON SPEEDY MODE
08:15.20maxlddarkstone which image did you use?
08:15.26maxldcare to share a link?
08:15.47darkstonedont have a link right now, im just trying images from other devices
08:16.00darkstonehero builds from blackstone/kovsky
08:16.10maxldwhere can i find them?
08:16.22maxldxda?
08:16.24darkstoneits on the xda-developers forum
08:16.26darkstoneyep
08:16.33maxldok thx
08:18.51darkstonegonna sleep for a bit
08:18.53darkstonebbl
08:19.00maxldsee ya
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08:37.53BigDaDDywhat if i want two harets on my sd card (ubuntu and android)? both need to be on SD root, what to do?
08:38.31ShadowFoxBiHubuntu needs to be in its own folder
08:38.38ShadowFoxBiHso just put the haret in the folder with the img
08:38.52BigDaDDyin dcordes release he says it should reside in the root of sd
08:38.59ShadowFoxBiHno
08:39.08ShadowFoxBiHif you read the readme he says extract the folder to the root
08:39.12BigDaDDyoh :P
08:39.12BigDaDDyok
08:39.14BigDaDDyty
08:39.26ShadowFoxBiHtrust me i had a problem booting ubuntu because of that
08:39.30BigDaDDydid he include touch driver there?
08:39.33ShadowFoxBiHyes
08:39.38ShadowFoxBiHjust its not that great
08:39.41ShadowFoxBiHmediocre at best
08:39.42BigDaDDyare they still very bad? :)
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08:40.00BigDaDDycan u use the screen to navigate, or is it unusabel?
08:40.02BigDaDDyunusable
08:40.06ShadowFoxBiHyou can navigate
08:40.08ShadowFoxBiHbut it isnt easy
08:40.19ShadowFoxBiHit was meant for mouse and keyboard attachment
08:40.33BigDaDDyi ordered all the stuff needed for it :P
08:40.36BigDaDDynow i'm waiting :(
08:40.44ShadowFoxBiHThis is intended to be used as a netbook/desktop type setup with keyboard and mouse connected via USB
08:40.46BigDaDDyordered a hub, a OTG cable and a Y cable
08:40.48Rediif it kills me - i will get data working on mobile netwrk in android
08:40.52ShadowFoxBiHwhere from ?
08:40.58BigDaDDyebay
08:41.00ShadowFoxBiHhmm
08:41.06ShadowFoxBiHsend me the links
08:41.12Rediseems like i may be getting somewhere!!
08:41.19ShadowFoxBiHreally?
08:41.29ShadowFoxBiHyou got some missing drivers we dont know about?
08:41.37Redime?
08:41.40ShadowFoxBiHyeah
08:41.43BigDaDDyHUB: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280483243487
08:41.47Redithink its just APN settings matey
08:41.53Redineed to define APN type
08:42.00BigDaDDyY Cable for MINI: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370353671766
08:42.01tcnhRedi, GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS hardware is the same as in X1 (kovsky).. maybe using stuff from x1 builds will help?
08:42.01ShadowFoxBiHoh really?
08:42.05Redidefine it as "browser"
08:42.09Rediand it should work with the browser
08:42.13BigDaDDyY Cable normal: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220601551361
08:42.26ShadowFoxBiHlol nice
08:42.29BigDaDDyOTG Cable: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250655553820
08:42.36ShadowFoxBiHonly problem dude all of that is from china expect it to take like 6 weeks
08:42.50Redisorry, not "browser" but "default" even
08:42.51BigDaDDynah
08:42.55BigDaDDyit takes 2-3 weeks here
08:43.02ShadowFoxBiHhmm so just setup the apn setting?
08:43.05ShadowFoxBiHinteresting
08:43.10Redisee http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/e22fea235fb1438a
08:43.25Rediyou will need 2 - 3 apns configured
08:43.35Redidont know what PDP context is?
08:43.48ShadowFoxBiHhmm
08:43.53ShadowFoxBiHinteresting
08:43.57ShadowFoxBiHany luck getting it to work?
08:44.07Rediin my case all the apn.types were blank
08:44.09ShadowFoxBiHi know the apn for data but not mms
08:44.19BigDaDDyscrew mms :P
08:44.19Redijust crashed due to typing an "o" by accident :)
08:44.33Redibigd; you need 2 apns
08:44.41BigDaDDyoh :P
08:44.53Ondalfeh? only one apn works when you use android for phone and data. not mms
08:44.54ShadowFoxBiHlol lets wait till they solve the bsod problem
08:44.58Rediyeah - who needs one for mms :P
08:47.00ShadowFoxBiHhey bigdaddy you have no use for like one of those cables
08:48.21ShadowFoxBiHthe y cable is of no use to you
08:48.23Ondalfdoes his phone have usbhost?
08:48.38ShadowFoxBiHyes
08:48.42ShadowFoxBiHin ubuntu
08:49.04Ondalfeh, disabled in android?
08:49.21BigDaDDyShadowFoxBiH: i have another hub which isn't powered
08:49.29ShadowFoxBiHoh ok
08:49.47BigDaDDythese Y cables are super useful :)
08:49.49ShadowFoxBiHi dont know ondalf could be a kernel issue
08:50.06ShadowFoxBiHmore likely just missing the drivers for it
08:50.11Ondalfhmm, i got usbhost in Toshiba G900
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08:50.29Ondalfshadowfoxbih: could be...
08:51.13Ondalfusb-coffecup warmer into phone :P
08:51.19ShadowFoxBiHlol yeah
08:51.24Ondalfwhat a wonderous idea
08:51.26ShadowFoxBiHi am going to give the APN a try
08:51.29ShadowFoxBiHsee if it works
08:52.15Ondalfi just got one as default and it does what it should. never used mms
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08:53.07ShadowFoxBiHok well the default one is right
08:53.41Ondalfthat should cause modem to get connected with dhcp
08:54.26ShadowFoxBiHno ho
08:54.28ShadowFoxBiHgo*
08:54.45Ondalfsweet. at last it started to rain...
08:55.11ShadowFoxBiHit just says connecting on mobile network state
08:55.32Ondalftheres those 2 numeric values
08:55.45ShadowFoxBiHwhat values
08:55.58Ondalfcheck from internet if another android users in same network has same values
08:56.04Ondalfsec, checking names
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08:56.42Chahave anyone tried to run camera driver?
08:56.52Chain wiki, it says it is same as Hero's
08:57.19ShadowFoxBiHlol we still dont have a stable android you think someone will get a picture before the bsod?
08:58.20Chayou dont have to wait for bsod fix
08:58.39Chagsm is fixed that way..
08:59.19ShadowFoxBiHlol really?
08:59.40BigDaDDyall the time your spending on navigating through the BSODs is stupid. after BSODs are fixed it will take 5 mins to know exactly whats working and what isnt!
08:59.59Chayeah, and i think cass is working on wlan in the same situation
09:00.09Ondalflol, editing APN disconnected me. okay, names are MNC and MCC
09:00.37ShadowFoxBiHwhat did you try to edit
09:00.43Defiant-This may sound n00b but does the HD2 share a lot of hardware with the Desire? If it does can or is it quicker to port the Desires OS to the HD2 or are there major fundamental changes HTC have made that stops this?
09:00.56ShadowFoxBiHwell the OS no
09:01.00ShadowFoxBiHbut we can use some of the drivers
09:01.05Ondalfactually i just looked into default settings
09:01.07ChaDefiant-: people are already working on porting desire's drivers, don't worry
09:01.24Ondalfwell, i did comeback
09:01.25Defiant-I am not worried, it was a question from a technical point
09:01.53Chalol, i didn't mean that way..
09:01.54Chaanyway
09:02.06ShadowFoxBiHwell no bsod yet
09:02.10ShadowFoxBiHwhich is kind of weird
09:02.25Defiant-I was wondering how Haret handled the Desires os on a hd2 if anything would even work or boot
09:02.27Defiant-that was all :)
09:04.47ShadowFoxBiHwell APN settings are not the problem
09:08.00Defiant-So the current state is the GSM build that is on XDA for looking at or are there later versions than that, and what about dump files does anyone need them at all ?
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09:09.31ShadowFoxBiHyeah
09:09.48ShadowFoxBiHunless cotulla or dcordes dropped by and gave us an early gift
09:09.57Defiant-Was checking http://www.netripper.com/leo/?C=M;O=D and there are a lot of options :)
09:10.29Defiant-I assume http://media2a.com/android/Android_Boot_Test_TS.zip is the one people are liking the most?
09:10.47Defiant-or http://media2a.com/android/Android_Boot_Test_TS_GSM.zip
09:11.02ShadowFoxBiHthe gsm one tends to be less stable
09:11.07Defiant-k
09:11.17Defiant-Had it booted in the UK ok with GSM signal
09:11.19ShadowFoxBiHi get it to run for a while now but i have to disable data in win moo
09:11.36Defiant-But not much to play with yet - but great development
09:11.40ShadowFoxBiHyeah
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09:13.38shu8iany news on bsod guys?
09:13.43ShadowFoxBiHnope
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09:17.05MAIcrosofthmmm
09:17.14MAIcrosofti got a bsod during boot sequense
09:17.24MAIcrosoftnow the phone wont turn on anymore :p
09:17.50MAIcrosoftah well, ill reflash it then lol
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09:26.13maxldShadowFoxBiH thx for the tip with ubuntu separate folder
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09:26.24maxldi was wondering why it doesnt boot
09:26.25canthonyzaso has anyone tried the initrd and rootfs from the blackstone build?
09:26.29maxldand now everything is fine
09:26.32canthonyzaslows down everything
09:26.44canthonyzanot so lightning fast anymore
09:27.05canthonyzawhen bringing up the menu, you can actually see it animate :P
09:27.34maxldwhere can i get them?
09:27.38maxldi will test
09:27.49canthonyzai downloaded from connect-utb.com
09:28.17canthonyzathen copied the initrd and rootfs from there to storage card
09:28.30maxldah ok
09:28.38maxlddownloading right now
09:29.13maxldless bsods?
09:29.21canthonyzaThe first time I tried it
09:29.45canthonyzai was messing around by launching menu and then messages, obviously stayed out of phone
09:29.48canthonyzai got no bsod
09:29.53maxldnice
09:29.58canthonyzabut leaving it to idle gave bsod
09:30.15maxldyeah, i think that it is common
09:30.32danibjorcan anyone give a hint on how to modify rootfs.img and system.ext2 in the android test build (in ubuntu)
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09:31.03canthonyzamake sure you delete data.img and other files that usually created on first boot
09:31.19maxldthanks for the tip
09:31.25maxldi am just copying files to sd card
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09:33.11Redibugger it - no joy with arsing about with the apn.type - i'd hoped to get data working :(
09:33.11canthonyzaYou know I am looking for a write up somewhere that explains the components used for booting android via haret
09:33.29canthonyzawhere they explain what each component is and how its built
09:34.47canthonyzabut grrrr... there are no tutorials for noobs to linux :-/
09:34.54maxldbooted well, so im gonna test bsods :)
09:35.10canthonyzayou notice the decrease in speed?
09:35.18maxldyeah, much slower
09:36.06maxldmore stable than a gsm working version i suppose
09:37.07maxldfor the first time i have no bsod after i dunno, 15 seconds maybe
09:37.08maxldgreat
09:37.10canthonyzaearlier i got bsod when it started to load penguin
09:37.24maxldi see
09:37.26canthonyzanot sure what to call that screen lol
09:37.43canthonyzabut it still continued in background... i checked my storage card and the data.img was created
09:38.43maxlddamn, tried to change a wallpaper, bad idea :)
09:39.56canthonyzahaha
09:40.50maxldafter killing all prcesses with task manager it works more snappier
09:42.53canthonyzadamn, since these test builds I rebooted my leo like 300394 times
09:43.07maxldyeah exactly
09:43.08maxldi guess i will wait patiently for bsod fix
09:43.32canthonyzait sort of is fun though haha
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09:44.23canthonyzaok so it has nothing to do with rootfs
09:44.37canthonyzai now have slower version with gsm
09:44.49maxldyeah i was wondering bout the same
09:44.59maxldcoz gsm ver is running slower indeed
09:45.10canthonyzaused rootfs from gsm version and initrd from blackstone package
09:47.13maxldcrashing as hell?
09:47.30canthonyzawell only crashed now cos I tried phone again lol
09:47.37maxld:D
09:48.13canthonyzawasnt bsod though, just couldnt get to type a full number
09:48.27Defiant-At least you can send a short sms with it :)
09:48.37maxldi tried to play a video recorded via hd2 on winmo, just black screen and couldnt go back
09:48.54maxlddefiant- yeah, messaging works pretty good
09:49.19canthonyzahaha yeah... we needs to make/receive calls anyway
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09:49.21Defiant-Mind you saving a contact is fun ;)
09:49.44canthonyzalooks at phone waiting for bsod
09:49.53maxldi am not willing to try it
09:49.55maxld;P
09:50.30canthonyzado you have blinking green light?
09:50.35maxldnope
09:50.40canthonyzaand there it goes lol
09:50.56maxldmaybe someone sent you a message lol
09:51.21canthonyzalol no I think it carries over from winmo, i have unread messages
09:52.46canthonyzabut with that indicator its clear that its not hanging
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09:55.36canthonyzais there anyone here who is willing to explain to me what initrd's,rootfs' purpose is?
09:56.05LokisSwordgoogle ;)
09:56.46Defiant-Wikipedia is your friend
09:57.20canthonyzadarn, no one liner explanation then? lol
09:57.31Defiant-Nope :P
09:57.53Defiant-Infact your question in google brings up the right answer as the first result
09:58.21canthonyzacopy and pastes his question :P
10:00.18canthonyzawiki's his ass of
10:00.19LokisSwordA ram disk mounted before the main rootfs is mounted containing any drivers or modules required to load the rootfs
10:01.00canthonyzahmmmm okay, that makes sense...
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10:01.45canthonyzaso sequence from launching haret is? zImage,initrd,rootfs?
10:03.07LokisSwordyup
10:04.01LokisSwordbtw i'm a noob, but did some bedtime reading last few days ...
10:05.13canthonyzaah okay cool
10:05.23canthonyzayou wanna pass some links my way?
10:05.25canthonyza:)
10:06.14canthonyzawhat about system.ext2? where/when does that come in?
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10:06.56LokisSwordi just googled stuff like, linux boot process, haret, and any other word i didn't understand :)
10:07.35Defiant-canthonyza: have you read the links at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632 ?
10:08.22canthonyza:) I have, but its not for a complete noob...
10:08.52LokisSwordnot a lot of linux documentation is
10:09.04canthonyzamaxld... u there?
10:09.13maxldyeah, sup?
10:09.16canthonyzaso I should start to understand linux first?
10:09.27canthonyzahave you tried changing screen timeout to 30 mins?
10:09.51maxldooohh good idea, will try it right now
10:10.04maxldi also think that disabling animations may halp a little
10:10.09maxldhelp*
10:10.12canthonyzai set it to 30 mins and kept staring at my screen
10:10.22canthonyzawaiting for bsod naturally
10:10.35canthonyzaand it hasnt for 15 mins thus far
10:10.45maxldbut did you touch your phone ;D?
10:10.54canthonyzano haha
10:11.18maxldjust like i thought :
10:11.19maxld:D
10:11.23canthonyzaso I can get VirtualBox and then a linux distro right?
10:11.26canthonyzafor starters?
10:12.02LokisSwordubuntu will install directly in windows
10:12.12LokisSwordsaves virtualbox
10:12.19canthonyzawha? really?
10:12.58canthonyzawill google that then as well... will set up a linux env tonight
10:17.29Defiant-canthonyza: you could try http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
10:17.47Defiant-Easy to set up and gives you an idea of the workings
10:19.05canthonyzaDefiant-... awesome! thanks!
10:19.15`Lawi would switch to ubuntu like a shot.. if gaming was on there.
10:19.25Defiant-It is a good idea and a good way to get familiar with a *nix
10:19.31Defiant-before smashing up partitions :)
10:19.35canthonyzabtw, does it matter what linux distro i use?
10:19.44maxldim sitting on osx, but i am also thinking bout change to ubuntu
10:19.49`Lawfunny thing is.. OpenGL is more powerful that directx... but as mircosoft.. push directx and make out its better people belive it..
10:19.50Defiant-ubuntu :)
10:21.38canthonyzaok :)
10:25.20canthonyzacolleague here has fedora 13... can I use that?
10:29.48Defiant-If you fancy
10:30.24canthonyzaas long as it has all the tools I will need it should be fine then
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10:38.03Rediyou pretty much just need git :)
10:38.18Rediwhich is rather simple to install (at least it is in ubuntu)
10:38.56Rediguys; any news from netripper/decordes/cortulla on bsod cause / fix?
10:39.12canthonyzaand gcc... but I believe that comes with the distro
10:39.30canthonyzanope, no news thus far
10:39.30Rediand, more importantly, is Ubuntu release actually stable or does it bsod / crash as well?
10:39.46canthonyzaCotulla has been quiet, so maybe he is sorting it out :)
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10:48.18mulvatarI heard cotulla has lost interest in this project..
10:48.35mulvatarwe should encourage him!
10:49.05mulvatarI think he deserves donations, a lot of donations..
10:49.31mulvatarsend him a lot of $$$ and we will get fully working android port in notime
10:52.10LokisSwordwhere did you here he lost interest? just curious
10:54.51mulvatarthere are some rumors flying around..
10:55.53LokisSword*ducks* where?
10:56.13mulvatarhe is really doing a great job.. in the last few days he has achieved more than all other devs combined in the past months..
10:56.23BigDaDDyits not a competition
10:56.26BigDaDDyits a joint effort.
10:57.16mulvatarbut you cant deny that because of his imput the whole project got momentum
10:57.55LokisSwordi was just trying to workout what happened between 2.30 last night and logging off irc to now
10:58.53Tahare there certain things that cause bsod 100%?
10:59.18LokisSword*All* the devs deserve massive thanks
11:00.14mulvataryes, more $$$ to devs!
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11:00.32gauner1986hi all
11:00.49`Lawtbh.. they should put dev names on bootscreen.. on linux... at least people will know who to think of when booting andriod lol
11:01.42mulvataryes, they are really amazing
11:01.47BigDaDDywe should all tattoo their names on our body
11:01.55BigDaDDyand worship them
11:01.56BigDaDDyforever
11:02.05`LawBigDaDDy you can do that 1st and i see what it looks like lol
11:02.09mulvatarbtw: audio is badly broken.. it kernel panics during initialization on regular n1 and desire build
11:02.20mulvatarso it is really impossible to run these builds at all.
11:02.25mulvatari hoped for htc sense :/
11:02.57Defiant-Some people have loaded a sense build
11:03.06Defiant-but again the inderlying issues are still there
11:03.15Defiant-This is still way way way before an alpha
11:03.32mulvatarthe kernel is just wrong..
11:03.57Defiant-?
11:04.21mulvatari am just wondering why devs are porting kernel for old, incompatible msm cpu instead of getting one from desire/nexus and just modify it to work with hd2
11:05.08Defiant-This was a question early on and the answer related to drivers
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11:05.24Defiant-but that may have changed now with the work being done currently
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11:06.46mulvatarbut drivers for msm wont work anyway, so whats the point?
11:07.15mulvatarmsm and qsd are completely different cpus
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11:10.54BigDaDDy:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
11:11.28canthonyzaand now?
11:12.36Casskernel for hd2 is using the nexus 1 kernel config as the base and being modigied where it needs to be ]
11:12.38canthonyzawhat gives BigDaDDy?
11:12.50Casss/modigied/modified
11:13.09BigDaDDyworried about status not changing for a while now :P
11:13.58Defiant-Dev's need sleep too
11:14.17canthonyzaits unfortunate, but Defiant is right lol
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11:20.23BigDaDDyCass, how is it going with the data?
11:20.33Cassits not
11:20.40Casslooking into it still
11:21.13BigDaDDyi thought u were having progress :[
11:22.33borstehwe've been spoiled by great progress
11:22.34borsteh:)
11:22.47BigDaDDylol
11:22.49BigDaDDytrue
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11:23.57BigDaDDy~seen working_android_port_for_hd2
11:23.59apti haven't seen 'working_android_port_for_hd2', BigDaDDy
11:24.03BigDaDDy:)
11:24.03borsteh:P
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11:30.28dcordeshi
11:30.31Redi~seen up_your_arse
11:30.32apti haven't seen 'up_your_arse', Redi
11:30.39Rediand i should hope not, too!
11:30.41Casshi dcordes
11:30.58dcordesLinuzz: what's up with that usb display ? ping if you feel like trying it
11:31.24Cassdcordes you have wifi running on ubuntu ?
11:31.31dcordesRedi: /msg Redi one more and you banned
11:31.37dcordespublic is ok too
11:31.44dcordesCass: usb ?
11:31.54Cassusb ?
11:32.12BigDaDDyusb ?
11:32.24Cassim not running ubuntu ...  someone mentioned last night you ran it and had wifi working
11:32.34Cassi was curious how .. mad_wifi or kernel #
11:32.43dcordesyou talking about the BCM4329 or usb wifi ?
11:32.50Cassbcm4329
11:33.00Cassyou posted a tweet and pic
11:33.06Casswhat you use in that for data
11:33.06dcordesusb ethernet
11:33.10Cassahh :)
11:33.55dcordesboth is not specific to ubuntu/android/userspace. plain kernel thing. you just have to provide firmware/calibration on rootfs that's all
11:34.02Cassyeah
11:34.11dcordesfor the bcm
11:34.16Cassjust confused when they said you had wifi
11:34.24Casswhen iknow there is an issue in kernel land for it
11:34.24dcordesrest is solely kernel
11:34.31dcordesI didn't say I have wifi .
11:34.38Cassyou didnt someone here did
11:34.45Cassi hadnt even seen your tweet
11:34.54Casscleared up now
11:35.19dcordeswe sure need to correct gpios for wifi
11:35.31dcordeslet's see if they are documented in wiki
11:35.53Cassthink cotulla was going to add some stuff
11:35.57Cassto kernel not wiki
11:36.05Cassseems sdio is broken
11:36.26Cassnot sure if wifi even powers up
11:37.15dcordesyes two things to take care of. mmc and gpio
11:37.42dcordeshttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo_GPIO looks good
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11:38.25Cassyeah looked at that yesterday .. could not see if there was any related to wifi power
11:38.40gauner1986it's sooooo hot today...
11:39.20Cassahh ok .. bank 6pin 129 it seems
11:39.39dcordes129  0x81    7 Ondalf  wifi pwr=1  AUD_A1026_RESET(rev1)
11:40.20darkstonegot sense ui working
11:40.29Cass:)
11:40.34Defiant-darkstone nice
11:40.44darkstoneim trying to prevent BSOD
11:40.45TahDon't know if it's worth adding to Wiki, but brightness in options doesn't work, but when you go to the clock app on android, it works inside there.
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11:41.02darkstonesense is very buggy
11:41.06darkstonelots of flickering
11:41.10darkstonei'll upload a build
11:41.14darkstoneenjoy your eplipsy xD
11:41.18Defiant-Cool, worth a few testing
11:41.40gauner1986hw3d should be working.. ^^
11:41.42Defiant-what cpu speed? I did notice some people saying it is clocked down to 756? rather than 998?
11:41.50Tahim running at 245
11:42.07Tahto try and make it more stable, runs slower but it's still crashing in the same places.
11:42.20darkstoneupload will be completed in an hour or two
11:42.29Defiant-The fun of adsl :P
11:44.22canthonyzafor editing source code on linux, what editor is best? please dont say vi :P
11:45.49mulvataremacs ;[
11:45.56tcnhblackstone and kovsky rootfs.img don't have the speedy-cursor (and time running mad, at first glance) issues. Faster bsods tho
11:46.01danibjordarkstone, how do you create the system.ext2 and rootfs.img files?
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11:47.04canthonyzathanks mulvatar :)
11:47.25Defiant-canthonyza: notepad under wine :P
11:47.36Defiant-'cause you know it hurts
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11:51.40darkstonedanibjor: im using squashfs
11:51.45darkstoneversion 4
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11:52.56darkstonejust packaging the file structure
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11:54.34darkstoneno compression
11:57.51darkstonesense is slow
11:57.52darkstone:/
12:02.35Redii'm a bit of a noob at this; trying to make (after make oldconfig) and getting the following error;
12:02.35Redi<PROTECTED>
12:02.36Redikernel/cpuset.c: In function ‘cpuset_can_attach’:
12:02.36Redikernel/cpuset.c:1333: error: ‘task’ undeclared (first use in this function)
12:02.47Rediany thoughts?
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12:06.25Redijust thinking, if i'm using oldconfig is it using linux kernel i am running on? (whoops)
12:06.58Cassyour trying to build a kernel for leo ?
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12:10.48darkstonewhistles
12:10.55darkstonebeen running sense for 15 mins
12:11.00darkstoneno bsod yet :)
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12:11.25darkstoneupload will be done in 15 mins
12:11.26Redicass; yep
12:11.31Redithink i've just been a nub
12:11.37darkstonequicker than i anticipated
12:11.40Rediand typing in the wrong command :)
12:11.58Redias in, i was actually building a kernel for ubuntu...
12:12.02Cassyeah
12:12.27Casshttp://pastebin.com/myD1ah5L
12:12.29canthonyzacool darkstone, will give it a go when its done
12:12.43Cassthats the script i use to build mine .. coment / uncomment as required
12:12.55Cassim assuming you have the toolchain and git pulled
12:14.00danibjordarkstone, thnx
12:15.47BigDaDDywhy do u want sense on android? :P
12:16.04BigDaDDywon't it make it look like your wm phone? :P
12:17.26canthonyzabut it wont be wm :P
12:17.40BigDaDDytrue :p
12:18.11BigDaDDyi thought moving to android will give my phone a brand new look :P
12:19.04canthonyzait will pretty much look the same, but your phone would be capable of running two OS' ... thats reason enough I'd say
12:20.02BigDaDDytrue :P
12:20.16BigDaDDyandroid apps and games :P:P:P:P
12:20.16Redicass; no need to crosscompile?
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12:23.56CassRedi, make Image ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-
12:23.57Cass??
12:28.50zrra_darkstone? have you get bsod yet?
12:31.40darkstonenope
12:31.42darkstone:)
12:31.46darkstoneonly when i open certain apps
12:31.47darkstonealso
12:31.48darkstonehttp://gamesquare.co.uk/
12:31.49darkstonedownload here
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12:32.38shu8ithats the sense build?
12:32.46darkstoneyep
12:32.47zrra_thanks
12:32.52shu8ithx ;)
12:33.00canthonyzadownloads
12:34.01maxldyupi gonna try it now
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12:34.50canthonyzaGSM included darkstone?
12:35.02darkstoneno
12:35.11canthonyzakk
12:35.56maxldkk downloaded ;))
12:36.02canthonyzadamn!
12:36.24canthonyzawants faster internet
12:36.26darkstonexD
12:36.34maxldi can borrow you mine
12:36.34maxld:D
12:36.48canthonyzahaha, sure send over some bandwidth
12:36.52maxldxD
12:37.14anno65120status on android?
12:37.21maxldsame as yesterday
12:37.31Defiant-Works on the Desire fine :P
12:37.39anno65120so only touchscreen and keypad
12:37.44Defiant-and GSM
12:37.49canthonyzapartial gsm
12:37.51anno65120yeah...partially
12:38.04Defiant-well sms GSM, you can call, no one can hear you ...
12:38.07Defiant-pretty much not a phone
12:38.09maxlddarkstone
12:38.15maxlddo i need data.img from your package?
12:38.24maxldor can i just delete it?
12:38.35canthonyzai'd say delete
12:38.50maxldill try without it
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12:41.01maxldis booting sense
12:41.01Defiant-Which Haret you using darkstone ?
12:41.05darkstonemaxld: i recommend using it
12:41.08maxldoh
12:41.11maxldtoo late xD
12:41.20darkstonebecause ive disabled sound/vibrate etc
12:41.23canthonyzathank gawd for reset button
12:41.24darkstoneshould cayse less bsod
12:41.26darkstonexD
12:42.05maxldthanks for the info
12:42.17darkstoneDefiant-: the one from manusfreedom_xandroid_leo_201006291746
12:42.39Defiant-ooo k :)
12:44.08maxldis it normal that on HTC animation is on my screen for a long time now?
12:44.11mulvatar`
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12:45.09maxldwill try with your data.img
12:45.15maxldit didnt go well xD
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12:45.22Defiant-lol
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12:46.06canthonyzahaha rather don't listen to me next time maxld lol
12:46.19maxldcanthonyza lol
12:47.48Defiant-Did you alter the screen timeout to more than 30 secs?
12:48.08darkstoneyep
12:48.10Defiant-:)
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12:48.27Defiant-I love the way the Andriodapps folder has the xda forum app lol
12:48.49maxldwarning!
12:48.52maxldboot number 2
12:48.53maxldxD
12:49.11Defiant-Unless it is on fire then that should be information :P
12:49.26maxldi hope it wont be
12:50.00Defiant-Full blinking cursor speed ahead
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12:50.13canthonyzathis ext2 and sqsh is confusing me... does rootfs which to load?
12:50.20canthonyzadecide*
12:50.23darkstoneeh?
12:50.26darkstonethere is no ext2
12:50.27darkstoneO_o
12:50.31darkstonethes sqsh
12:50.34canthonyzayeah but the other build had ext2
12:50.38darkstoneah
12:50.41darkstonedelete that
12:50.43shu8ithe sense build is like 3x larger than the normal build?
12:50.52Defiant-Hero boot screen :P
12:50.53darkstoneyeah xD
12:50.56Defiant-and HTC nice
12:51.03maxldbooted, forgot to unlock for a few secs and here we go with bsod
12:51.12darkstonebsod?
12:51.13darkstoneO_o
12:51.18maxldyup
12:51.22darkstoneD:
12:51.24darkstoneunlucky
12:51.27maxldon lockscreen
12:51.28maxldxD
12:51.29Defiant-ok
12:51.30Parad0XUAlittle secret unlocking your hd2
12:51.31darkstonexD
12:51.51shu8idarkstone, unlock with winbutton or normally?
12:51.52Parad0XUAfirst touch that thing on the left and wait the one on the right to disappear
12:51.53Defiant-booted to sense @ 13:5
12:51.54Parad0XUAand then slide
12:52.05Cassor just hit the windows key
12:52.17Parad0XUAworks for me even after some time if I don't unlock it
12:52.37maxldunlucky me then
12:53.03Defiant-hmmm a warning about something needing to be closed
12:53.07Defiant-thats all so far
12:53.14shu8iwoohoo bsod on htc boot logo
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12:53.24Defiant-that will go
12:53.28Defiant-and it keeps on booting
12:53.45shu8iy but i got second bsod on lockscreen that wont go...
12:53.58canthonyzahero bootscreen :D
12:53.59Defiant-oo :(
12:54.15maxldokay, i have managed to get past the lockscreen, damn it looks really well
12:55.43maxldand i think that it is most stable android ive ever had
12:55.54borstehby stable u mean?
12:55.57maxldyup
12:56.10maxldno bsod at all and ive checked browser, messaging , settings
12:56.30Defiant-Wave Secure beta needs to be closed ...
12:56.33canthonyzahtctime... force close?
12:56.43maxldjust a bit annoying flickering of display, but thats all
12:57.07maxldremoving widgets works ;))
12:57.16shu8igsm included in you build darkstone?
12:57.20darkstonenope
12:57.21borstehnmope
12:57.29shu8ik
12:57.31darkstonetoo unstable
12:57.46darkstonecouldnt get past htc boot screen
12:57.46darkstonexD
12:58.06maxldmuch slower than vanilla android, or is it only me?
12:58.13darkstoneno it is
12:58.57shu8inooo bsod while typing a message xd
12:59.04maxldultrastable release xD
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12:59.51darkstonexD
13:00.05maxldit flickers a little bit less when you disable animations in spare parts
13:00.07darkstoneits probably because there it is trying to vibrate
13:01.07maxlddarkstone, so you suggest that if we disable vibration in vanilla, it should be stable as this?
13:01.27darkstoneprobably
13:02.00maxldstill no bsod
13:02.05darkstone:p
13:02.14maxldlocking phone works?
13:02.23darkstoneit'll only bsod if you open applications that try to access something that doesnt work
13:02.26maxldor will it be an instant reset?
13:02.30maxldi see
13:02.36darkstonepress power button twice quickly
13:02.55maxldyeah, it works with quick presses, thx
13:03.04shu8iweird ... changed clock on android and now my winmo clock is like -6h xD
13:03.12canthonyzatries a second time
13:03.15maxldjust like my hackintosh
13:03.26maxldwhen i boot windows im always few hours behind
13:03.28maxldxD
13:03.39maxldon osx though it's ok
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13:04.10canthonyzawhat am i suppose to do when the white background with htc logo appears?
13:04.19maxldrestart
13:04.24maxldi had this on first attempt
13:04.33canthonyzanooooo
13:05.04maxldwooohooo home hardware button works
13:05.09maxldsome nice feature
13:05.28HD2Usersup
13:05.47canthonyzadidnt have to restart :)
13:05.52canthonyzathank goodness lol
13:06.07maxldcanthonyza oh, so now we are even in giving each other advices
13:06.08maxldxD
13:06.31shu8imine freezes when dialing a number...
13:06.51maxldas far as i now, there is no working radio, so its normal
13:06.55darkstone[14:02:21] <darkstone> it'll only bsod if you open applications that try to access something that doesnt work
13:06.56darkstone:p
13:07.27HD2Userabout which build are you talking :P ?
13:07.32canthonyzawont launch sense though... keeps asking me to force close
13:07.36Magnusriyou guys still using the gsm version? : p
13:07.38LokisSwordi can call out, left myself blank messages :)
13:07.43Magnusrior is there a new one?
13:07.50maxldMagnusri nope, darkstone made fantastic new one
13:08.03HD2Usercan i have it :D?
13:08.04Magnusrilink? ^^
13:08.11BigDaDDywhats fantistic about it?
13:08.22darkstonehttp://gamesquare.co.uk
13:08.22maxldhttp://gamesquare.co.uk/
13:08.27maxldooops
13:08.34darkstonexD
13:08.34maxldstability
13:08.52Defiant-Runs well
13:08.57HD2Userwhich android build is it :P ?
13:09.00Defiant-Bar dragging widgets between screens lol
13:09.01HD2User2.1 ?
13:09.03maxldhtc sense 2.1
13:09.08Defiant-That needs a double end key
13:09.11HD2Userty
13:09.23maxldnp
13:09.50HD2Userdoes the end key causes bluescreen in that build ?
13:10.15maxldyep, but with fast pressing it second time you can recover
13:10.31Magnusridouble tap it : p
13:10.31HD2Userand using back arrow while we are on homescreen, does it freeze?
13:10.38maxldnope
13:10.46maxldevery hardware key works perfectly
13:10.52HD2Userwow
13:10.52HD2User:P
13:10.55maxldeven volume
13:10.57BigDaDDyvolume also? :P
13:10.57BigDaDDykk
13:11.01HD2Userfantastic :P
13:11.02Defiant-HTC build
13:11.05TahSame in GSM version.
13:11.09Defiant-?
13:11.13`Lawvolume key.. worked in gsm ver.. tooo anyway
13:11.23Magnusrithis version has gsm too? guess so
13:11.29maxldnope
13:11.34Magnusrinot?  : O
13:11.34HD2Userdamn
13:11.38maxldit's without gsm
13:11.41Magnusri...
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13:11.53`Lawall the hard keys worked in gsm ver.
13:12.00Magnusriyea
13:12.01HD2Userno point to download it
13:12.06`Lawit was the softkeys that did bsod.. for example backspace
13:12.15maxld`Law not for me... ive had multiple bsods with hardware ones
13:12.19HD2Useractually i will
13:12.25`Lawreally... all worked here.
13:12.31BigDaDDydelete soft key works?
13:12.36maxldill check
13:12.37maxldw8
13:12.46BigDaDDy<PROTECTED>
13:12.48Echel0n|WerkDamnit
13:12.51Redilol, also try "." and "o" they like to bsod :)
13:12.53maxldoh i wont check xD
13:12.55Echel0n|Werkforgot my HD2 at home QQ
13:12.58maxldfroze without bsod xD
13:12.59HD2Userwhile writing a text message try to type quick and you will get bsod
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13:13.18HD2Useroh so thats why
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13:13.25maxldjust a sec
13:13.29maxldill report shortly
13:13.48mascottguys, follow http://twitter.com/hd2_android for the latest, hot news about android development for HD2 :)
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13:14.23mascottno need to scan logs anymore to keep yourself in the loop :P
13:14.24Defiant-_Nice
13:15.32HD2UserImage for HD2 with HTC Sense! (beware - even more buggy and slow!)   wtf? ;D
13:15.59HD2Userthey say that its more stable the original one
13:16.30Defiant-As it was not for the HD2 it is bound to be buggy and slow
13:16.44Defiant-the vanilla version is much quicker to use
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13:16.53Defiant-but blue screens alot quickwer
13:18.17Rediis the sense image suposed to show a different boot splash?
13:18.35HD2Useri guess so
13:18.44HD2Usercoz it's with sense
13:18.55Defiant-and from a hero
13:18.58Defiant-not a vanilla one
13:19.13slayernstest
13:19.57Rediwell, im mostly confused. it just seems slow and i see no sign of "sense ui"
13:20.09Redipurge the card and try again! :)
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13:20.53Defiant-Redi when it loads you have the big clock yes?
13:21.00maxldok
13:21.08maxldsoft keyboard seems to give bsod
13:21.17Redihappy days
13:21.18`Lawsame problem then
13:21.24HD2Useryeap
13:21.36maxldunfortunately
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13:23.42maxldok, time to go to work
13:23.44maxldlater guys
13:23.48`Lawta ta
13:23.54HD2Usercya
13:24.16Rediok - seems to have worked this time. odd :)
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13:33.22darkstonehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pRJBLp8vEA
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13:34.29borstehdarkstone
13:34.30canthonyzayoutube is blocked here at work
13:34.34borstehhow are you able to run live wallpaper
13:34.38borstehi tried the n1 wallpaper
13:34.40borstehand bam bsod
13:35.47darkstonejust works D:
13:35.50darkstonenot my video though
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13:39.34Redikeyboard runs a lot better in sense ui version
13:39.46Redihad to press a lot of keys to get it to crash!
13:39.52Redibut then, its a different keyboard...
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13:47.37NeoFlux_Hey everyone :)
13:47.39borstehhey
13:47.40NeoFlux_Any updates? :)
13:47.46borstehnope :)
13:47.52NeoFlux_talking of which, I need to fix my server :/
13:48.09AstainHellbringdont break servers
13:48.16AstainHellbringyou no have to fix if you no break
13:49.12NeoFlux_AstainHellbring, it has a dodgy ethernet port on the back, a little sensitive, someone must of knocked it, it's still up and running
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13:51.21Cotulladcordes, here?
13:51.22FlawlesStyleyay finally got the normal clock/speed on the 3rd boot of senseui build
13:51.55LokisSwordAfternoon Cotulla
13:52.17Cotullaany news?
13:52.45LokisSwordNot that i've seen
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13:56.17LokisSwordCotulla: is there anything that you actually need from testers at this stage that actually helps with development?
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13:56.45LokisSwordAre logs of locks, bsod of any further use?
13:56.58CotullaLokisSword, sorry no
13:57.05CotullaI have ADB working now and can take log
13:58.00LokisSwordThat is as I thought :) I'm just going to treat it as a learning exercise then ;)
13:58.25AstainHellbringCotulla what you working on atm?
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14:00.34Cotulla?
14:01.28canthonyzawhat starts loading once the penguin and debug lines appear?
14:02.01FlawlesStylehaha darkstone is it normal for the UI to flip vertically after starting camera and exiting in your sense ui build?
14:03.35canthonyzais it normal to even try launching camera? lol
14:03.52FlawlesStylelol it didn't bsod!
14:04.58FlawlesStylecan't get it to flip back XD
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14:07.31canthonyzalol
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14:07.40canthonyzado we already know what the cause of the bs is?
14:08.52Cotullawhy u got blue screens, it's green guys!
14:09.03FlawlesStylehttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5496/hd2senseuibuildlol.jpg
14:09.23Cotullalol
14:09.26canthonyzalol
14:09.38darkstonehaha wow FlawlesStyle
14:09.41darkstoneno idea why it does that
14:09.57FlawlesStylelol i tried the g-sensor calibration and it still won't flip back haha
14:10.20FlawlesStyleguess i'll restart and hope its flipped back >_<
14:10.42Cotullagsensor not supported yet
14:11.10FlawlesStyleyeah i figured that much, but the camera flipped it so i figured hey might as well try
14:13.17Cotullaanyone know how to try compass?
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14:14.04Magnusriif we get wifi up, we can test compass in maps
14:14.05Defiant-on the desire its backgrounds, settings compass
14:14.24AstainHellbringwifi would be nice
14:14.40TahI thought there would be some apps that tested the compass, people were talking about them not working the other day
14:14.41Defiant-for the app Compass  from the marketplace
14:15.27Defiant-Tah, google maps can use the built in gps
14:16.18Magnusricompass is tested working in linux, before android start. dunno how, but i've seen ppl talking about it
14:16.38darkstonejust swallowed a chicken bone D:
14:16.46Defiant-Snaptic make the free one on the market
14:16.49HD2Useryyy
14:17.24Defiant-http://www.androidfreeware.org/gettemp/1275142481_Compass_1.1.apk
14:17.26Defiant-any use?
14:17.38Cotullahow to install it?
14:17.42LokisSwordcould try usb ethernet
14:17.43LokisSwordwith usb-host
14:17.53Tahinstall it through
14:17.57Tahput it on memory card with haret
14:17.59LokisSwordcopy apk to sd catd
14:18.00Tahstart android up
14:18.03Tahthen install threough android
14:18.53FlawlesStyleis there anything we can do in wm to get it to consistently boot with the normal cpu speeds in android? i typically have to restart two or three times before i get it to boot without the crazy fast animations
14:19.36darkstonei seem to be on permenant speed mode <_>
14:19.42darkstoneuntil battery drops to 60%
14:19.43borstehyo Cotulla :)
14:19.49Defiant-I used netripper app to slow it down
14:20.24FlawlesStylei've tried wall charger, usb, different percentages on battery, but its never consistent...currently at 43% and it just did it again
14:20.24Defiant-But I am not sure that the andriod boot does not reset that
14:20.27canthonyzawhat about dropping the .apk in AndroidApps folder on SD card?
14:20.35Casscompass fails
14:20.37Defiant-canthonyza: should work ok
14:20.40Cassthere is no dev for it
14:20.46TahCotulla: I'm not sure how important that is, or even if it shows anything important. But i am using the 'Pointer Location' app in Dev Tools on Android. Whenever i press somewhere on the screen and click a second point to the left of the screen, the pointer wil move, but if i place my second finger to the right of my first touch, it ignores it.
14:21.25TahI know it's not world changing, but wondered if it was to do with your TS driver.
14:21.57Casshttp://pastebin.com/k7xVK0JY << compass errors
14:22.17MagnusriTah, it's detected properly in the boot, so i doubt it's the driver : p
14:23.33TahThe compass also works in boot, but doesn't in android.
14:24.37Cotullalol compass die system\
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14:26.34Magnusrilol.. i've lost the gsm build.. can someone please link the download if they have it at hand? :)
14:26.35Magnusrity
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14:27.25FlawlesStylehttp://media2a.com/android/Android_Boot_Test_TS_GSM.zip
14:27.36Magnusrityvm
14:27.42borstehhow do i make adb owrk
14:27.44borsteh*work
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14:28.13FlawlesStyleok, so if i wait about 10 seconds before pressing "Run" in HaRET while in WM, android seems to boot at normal speed
14:28.57Cassborsteh, http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=ADB
14:29.00Cassinstall the sdk
14:29.18borstehdo  i need any updated builds or
14:29.28Cassyou should be good
14:29.37borstehaight cheers
14:29.40Cassnp
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14:43.13noobcompilerany progress on leo after working ts?
14:44.51i2chello, guys
14:44.54canthonyzaa partial gsm build and bsod
14:45.53NeoFlux_Cotulla, looks like that Leo Sense version has the fixed timer or something
14:45.59NeoFlux_The clocks are not running like crazy
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14:46.56FlawlesStyleNeoFlux_ not for me, it really varies
14:47.01Ondalfhaha, girlfriend had funky clock in windows
14:47.22OndalfRTC failed somehow and one second took like 1/2 or 1/3 second
14:47.30NeoFlux_FlawlesStyle, weird
14:47.48NeoFlux_A lot of flicking with this build as well
14:48.32canthonyzai've been getting stable blinking cursor since updating initrd
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14:52.53maxldyello
14:53.00maxldany updates
14:53.02maxld?
14:53.06NeoFlux_ni
14:53.08NeoFlux_no *
14:53.16maxldoh thx
14:53.24canthonyzai've booted froyo lol
14:53.39NeoFlux_nice
14:53.56canthonyzaget lockscreen, unlock and see home
14:54.07maxldtest flas.then lol
14:54.08canthonyzawhen i click for menu bsod :-/
14:54.13maxldflash*
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14:55.24LargePrimeAstainHellbring; Have you a moment?
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14:55.35AstainHellbringLargePrime whats up?
14:55.46LargePrimeyou at the office?
14:55.51AstainHellbringaye
14:56.11LargePrimeyou had mentioned broken mogules
14:56.18LargePrimeand ESN's
14:56.42AstainHellbringoh yah
14:56.47AstainHellbringlemme check the drawer
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14:57.04Cotullau can remove "copybits.msm7k.so" to prevent green screens
14:57.15Cotullabut it will be more laggy
14:57.41borstehgreen screens?
14:57.43Cotullayes
14:57.50Arash18kCotulla, founs anything new about bosd?
14:58.02Cotullaread 3 lines before...
14:58.07LokisSwordhavent had a green screen yet, i feel left out
14:58.25borstehgreen screeens = bsod?
14:58.28borstehconfused
14:58.31Arash18kyou said green screens 3 line before :o
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14:58.42TahI think he's refering to blue greens.
14:58.50borstehblue screens?
14:58.51borstehwtf
14:58.53Tahblue greens -.- i mean blue screens
14:58.53borstehlol
14:58.54Tahlmaao
14:58.56borstehhahaha
14:58.58CotullaI dunno why u have blue screens, while I have green
14:59.02FlawlesStylelol
14:59.04Tahreally cotulla?
14:59.05Arash18klol
14:59.06canthonyzalol
14:59.08Tahor you just taking the piss? =P
14:59.09borstehyou serious?
14:59.10NeoFlux_fail colour reconginition :P
14:59.10FlawlesStyledefinitely blue here
14:59.15Cotullaserious.
14:59.16Arash18kso whats that module for?
14:59.19Tahyou arn't color blind are you?
14:59.23NeoFlux_Cotulla, colour blind? :P
14:59.25NeoFlux_lols
14:59.26borstehnah we all have blue ones
14:59.28LargePrimehey hey .  could be color lindnes
14:59.38LargePrimemaking fun of the disabled
14:59.41Cotullano it's really green
14:59.45NeoFlux_Cotulla, unless it's meant to be green but we are seeing blue...?
14:59.45Tah=S
14:59.51borstehtake a pic :P
14:59.52canthonyzaCotulla, where does that file reside?
14:59.54LargePrimeSHAME SHAME!
14:59.57LokisSwordi'm blind to the letter b to
15:00.04Cotulla\system\lib\hw
15:00.10LargePrimeha ha
15:00.18i2cCotulla, may I ask you some questions in private? (not about android though)
15:00.22canthonyzak, will try tonight
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15:00.36TahWill it remove all the blue / green screens? even the ones we get from pressing backspace on onscreen keyboard?
15:00.55CotullaI able to unlock
15:00.58Cotullawith slider
15:01.00AstainHellbringLargePrime found it
15:01.02LokisSworddamn being at work....
15:01.08Tahi've succesfully unlocked a few times without blue though.
15:01.18Arash18ki do that all the time
15:01.40TahIf you have your device on, could you try deleting some things with onscreen keyboard? that tends to be a consistant blue / green.
15:01.45`Lawbsod! reminds me of the days of win 98 and xp lol
15:02.00NeoFlux_Tah, same here mate
15:03.03FlawlesStylecanthonyza plan on uploading that build at any point?
15:04.14`Lawi didnt think linux bsod anyway...
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15:05.19TahIs it possible that they use a few different types of displays like they do with the TS, and Cotulla's defaults to green while ours blue?
15:05.29canthonyzathe froyo?
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15:06.16`Lawgreen would suit it tbh..
15:06.26`Lawconsidering android.. has a green robot!
15:06.42ali1234it is possible if the screen has a different pixel format
15:07.08LokisSwordaye, all being written to r g or b
15:08.04ali1234when do you actually see this blue screen anyway?
15:08.09FlawlesStyleyeah canthonyza
15:08.32ali1234is there a video of it happening?
15:08.52NeoFlux_is thinking of buying a G1
15:09.01canthonyzaanyone can try it... just download the build from connect-utb... I used the initrd and the system.ext2 from the build
15:10.03canthonyzaand you need to put initrd_offset
15:10.11FlawlesStylealright, gonna give it a shot
15:10.25canthonyzai got pass the unlock screen twice only lol
15:10.28shu8ibsod got fixed?
15:10.37AstainHellbringNeoFlux_ eww a g1?
15:10.42shu8ia bit confused out of log :P
15:10.44canthonyzabut you will notice, using that initrd
15:10.50canthonyzayou will have normal blinking cursor
15:11.21NeoFlux_AstainHellbring, something to play with :P
15:11.54AstainHellbringget a magic instead
15:12.18NeoFlux_AstainHellbring, want a keypad
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15:12.46NeoFlux_is A/AT a GSM network?
15:12.56FlawlesStyleyeah
15:13.35FlawlesStylewait sorry, i read that as ATT lol
15:13.36AstainHellbringNeoFlux_ g1 is so old and antiquated though
15:13.51NeoFlux_Btw, those new Class 10 SD cards that are coming out, do you think they'll work with our current phones?
15:14.13NeoFlux_AstainHellbring, just want a cheap android phone with a keyboard :P
15:14.18canthonyzais there another way to unlock without sliding cross screen?
15:14.19FlawlesStyleyeah NeoFlux_, people have already used class10 16gb's on the hd2
15:14.21AstainHellbringyes will work may not get actual class 10 speeds though
15:14.22NeoFlux_they are like £75 used.
15:14.26FlawlesStylecanthonyza winkey?
15:14.53canthonyzawinkey? lol wtf
15:15.07canthonyzaoh
15:15.13canthonyzawin key
15:15.21canthonyzaok got it... my bad :P
15:15.41`Lawwinkey.. i was thinking of those cake thingy's with cream inside
15:15.53LokisSwordlol, yup use your dictaphone... old joke
15:15.54NeoFlux_I was thinking of sexy winks
15:15.55NeoFlux_;)
15:15.58canthonyzayeah I wasnt sure what I was thinking lol
15:16.09canthonyzaNeoFlux_... i was trying to not think that haha
15:16.15NeoFlux_trying... haha
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15:16.34canthonyzaits internet... anything is possible :P
15:16.40FlawlesStylelol
15:16.59anno65120does anyone have android with sense?
15:17.04anno65120(link)
15:18.32xxxxxxxxxxxhttp://gamesquare.co.uk/
15:18.44xxxxxxxxxxxhttp://gamesquare.co.uk/LEO_SENSE.7z  *
15:19.04anno65120thx
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15:31.34borstehCotulla; may i ask on behalf of those curious, what is next on the agenda
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15:31.50canthonyzaokay... work is over for today :) have a good eve
15:32.06LokisSwordbye
15:32.12canthonyza!quit
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15:33.39chris5932im soon going to post a tutorial on the usb cable with pictures/video
15:34.33xxxxxxxxxxx~seen
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15:41.52Dexany update on bsod
15:41.53Dex?
15:42.14borsteh[22:57:01] <Cotulla> u can remove "copybits.msm7k.so" to prevent green screens
15:42.14borsteh[22:57:11] <Cotulla> but it will be more laggy
15:42.19borstehby green screens he meant bsod
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15:45.42Dexhmm is it alot more laggy?
15:45.52Casstry and see
15:46.17Dexk
15:46.17llumleyThe new build?
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15:48.44Ondalfhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10461048.stm? something good here ;)
15:49.18Defiant-It's a meg but better than nothing
15:49.23Defiant-and llumley for?
15:50.11llumleyI cant seem to get past the lockscreen.  freezes as soon as it shows up.
15:50.21llumleyOh well.
15:50.24Defiant-Do you press the windows key?
15:50.27Defiant-to unlock?
15:50.40Defiant-rem this is very early alpha maybe not even that
15:50.44HD2Userdon't use sliders coz they causing bluescreens
15:50.51Defiant-so it is not expected to work
15:51.40OndalfDefiant-: yeh, and since we live far away from eachothers at lapland, it is actually good thing, since ISP doesn't interest atm to spread to little towns. now its law to force them to spread and give everyone access to internet with some reliable way - not with GPRS or EDGE. 3G minimum with 1Mbps rate
15:51.51llumleyIt freezes before I can even press anything.
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15:52.20llumleyThen sometimes when i boot it, the screen is very dim.  Like the backlight is off.
15:52.29Defiant-llumley: well its just a dev build
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15:52.37Defiant-you  cannot expect it to work :)
15:52.44llumleyI know.  I wasnt expecting miracles
15:53.08HD2Userhmm, so maybe keep pressing win key since you see boot animation
15:53.28llumleyWhen it boots with the screen super dim, then I can get in.
15:54.02HD2Useroo i get it ;p
15:55.44ShadowFoxBiHhey guys any news from the devs
15:55.46ShadowFoxBiH?
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15:56.33borstehnope no news
15:56.39ShadowFoxBiHalright
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15:58.19lordsimonjust read some code in libcopybit/copybit.c , can not find anything useful...
15:59.18ShadowFoxBiHanybody tried the sense build yet?
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16:00.33HD2Useri haven't coz i saw HTC icons in there, don't like them
16:00.40ShadowFoxBiHlol alright
16:00.50ShadowFoxBiHI prefer the vanilla UI as well
16:01.12HD2User^^
16:01.55lordsimonI think there would be something wrong with the GPU driver. Is the HTC sense using another driver?
16:02.19Ondalfis that even possible
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16:02.26HD2Userhow much available memory do you have in Advanced Task Killer Free ?
16:03.04[acl]did someone say sense ?
16:03.12ShadowFoxBiHyeah i did
16:03.32[acl]what do you need to know. I know that thing like the back of my hand that i slap my beotches with
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16:04.27ShadowFoxBiHlol i was just asking if anyone tried the sense 2.1 build on the HD2
16:04.30Stehi
16:04.58[acl]ShadowFoxBiH: ahh .. ok.. probably not since they were trying to get regular android up.. Sense can come later.
16:05.03borstehyeah
16:05.07borstehi ran it
16:05.10borstehsense on 2.1
16:05.17ShadowFoxBiHwell they released a sense build
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16:05.24[acl]borsteh: oo and ? how was it
16:05.30borstehsame lol
16:05.33borstehnot much difference
16:05.39borstehcould unlock no bsod
16:05.39llumleyBiggity buggity.
16:05.39Magnusriworse x)
16:05.49borstehyeah graphics is bad
16:05.54[acl]borsteh: well without gpu its a pain.
16:06.33ShadowFoxBiHgsm not working in the sense build?
16:06.55darkstonei didnt add it
16:07.02HD2Userwow did you noticed that YT is working ( its lunching but not able to use it as there is no data connection)
16:07.04darkstoneyou can just add your own rootfs
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16:07.11darkstoneand disable aeroplane mode
16:07.30borstehyeah [acl] :P
16:07.36borstehno updates from the devs though
16:07.37HD2Useredit: able to use it (just press back button)
16:07.49borstehor maybe refusing to update us so all of us would stop bugging them :P
16:07.56llumleyWhats YT?
16:08.18HD2UserYouTube
16:08.23llumleyOH!
16:08.28HD2User:P
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16:09.08ShadowFoxBiHthe sense build is a copy of the hero rom
16:09.15ShadowFoxBiHwhich doesnt surprise me
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16:09.46BallsOnFirellis iwobble working with android
16:09.46[acl]ShadowFoxBiH: so its like half the screen ?
16:09.48BallsOnFirell?
16:09.53slayernshave anyone tried deleting copybits.msm7k.so ?
16:09.53ShadowFoxBiHlol its full screen acl
16:10.09[acl]ShadowFoxBiH: then its not the hero build. Must be frmo the desire
16:10.18ShadowFoxBiHno it is the hero build
16:10.24ShadowFoxBiHsays hero when you boot android
16:10.34HD2UserBallsOnFirell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3RcU28LKAk
16:10.37ShadowFoxBiHgives you the hero logo and then the HTC logo
16:10.39HD2UserAndWobble - iWobble clone for Android
16:10.44[acl]ShadowFoxBiH: some a-hole probably changed it
16:10.50ShadowFoxBiHi doubt it
16:11.02ShadowFoxBiHit probably is the hero build
16:11.14BallsOnFirellcool
16:11.17BallsOnFirell:)
16:11.25HD2Userits even better i think
16:11.36[acl]ShadowFoxBiH: The hero build doesnt scale. it would be like half the screen.. tiny clock and everything. I think they took a already made build and just sslapped it in there. Klinux orginal release had the hero logo
16:12.04BallsOnFirellhope the gsensor driver will work
16:12.07ShadowFoxBiHwell yeah the original hero build may be scaled but i think you can change the resolution
16:13.02[acl]ShadowFoxBiH: you can change the dpi on your phone but sense itself doesnt scale.. :-)
16:13.04ShadowFoxBiHI've seen the hero build on other HTC win mo phones
16:13.15[acl]ShadowFoxBiH: I know .. i helped make it
16:13.30|Atom|Cotulla: estt' nowosti xoroshie kasatel'no bsod?
16:13.36ShadowFoxBiHlol nice so why didnt you just say that
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16:13.47[acl]sense was like my obsession before 3d
16:13.49llumleyLawls!!!
16:14.09ShadowFoxBiHatom my russian is a bit rusty mind translating?
16:15.18llumleyWell, im leaving for canada in about 20 minutes.  I expect you guys to have this all sorted out and running like a charm by the time I get back on Monday.
16:15.26ShadowFoxBiHlol
16:15.29HD2User:D
16:15.31ShadowFoxBiHgood luck with that one
16:15.47HD2Userhave a nice time there :P
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16:16.01llumleyDont let me down guys.
16:16.29HD2Useri hope you gonna find there htc evo :D
16:16.47llumleyhaha... nope.
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16:17.04|Atom|ShadowFoxBiH: but my English is very bad :D
16:17.36HD2Userskeen
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16:20.37borstehwe will sir llumley
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16:20.49llumleyhaha!
16:20.56borsteh:P
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16:22.13ShadowFoxBiHSpeculating about how the color of your SD card affects it does not help anybody and is pure spam!
16:22.16ShadowFoxBiHwtf???
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16:38.45Linuzztry this...before you startup ”haret”, plugin your power supply. Then run “Haret”. Now it runs at 1 GHz. and it runs a lot faster.
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16:43.45jinjabred_manlinuzz: what was it running at before?
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16:46.45lordsimonhey guys, i find something,
16:46.48lordsimonhttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob_plain;f=arch/arm/lib/copy_from_user.S;hb=3aa5467b241e74b1e74f4bdb3766e464b1c39a9d
16:46.52lordsimonand
16:47.01lordsimonhttp://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=blob_plain;f=arch/arm/lib/copy_from_user.S;hb=HEAD
16:47.37lordsimonare not the same. Dose this can do some help?
16:47.42jhintahi all this site is outdated but how kan i install the new one or from git
16:47.47jhintahttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream
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16:49.30FlawlesStyleLinuzz that's what we're trying to prevent, since it makes it far less stable when running at 1ghz
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16:50.39HD2User~seen
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16:53.27aptnetripper is currently on #htc-linux. Has said a total of 388 messages. Is idling for 21h 57m 5s, last said: 'sometimes'.
16:54.29HD2User~seen apt
16:54.30aptapt is currently on #debian (2d 22h 4m 56s) ##icf (2d 22h 4m 56s) #elive (2d 22h 4m 56s) #htc-linux (2d 22h 4m 56s) #kde (2d 22h 4m 56s) #wowroster (2d 22h 4m 56s) #openmoko (2d 22h 4m 56s) #slug (2d 22h 4m 56s) #lugwv (2d 22h 4m 56s) #openmoko-cdevel (2d 22h 4m 56s) #debian-france (2d 22h 4m 56s) #debianppc (2d 22h 4m 56s) #linuxpakistan (2d 22h 4m ...
16:55.16slayerns~seen Cotulla
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16:55.38HD2User~seen ChanServ
16:55.39apti haven't seen 'chanserv', HD2User
16:56.26HD2Userlair!
16:56.43slayernsyou should write ChanServ
16:56.46slayerns~seen ChanServ
16:56.47apti haven't seen 'chanserv', slayerns
16:56.50slayernsoh
16:56.52slayerns:)
16:57.00HD2User:P
16:57.07slayerns~seen @ChanServ
16:57.07aptslayerns: i haven't seen '@chanserv'
16:57.12slayernslol
16:57.24HD2Userxd
16:58.15Magnusrihaha
16:59.01NeoFlux~seen my_penis
16:59.02apti haven't seen 'my_penis', NeoFlux
16:59.08NeoFluxlooooooools
16:59.09FlawlesStylei believe services would have to go down and come back up in order for the bot to start tracking it
16:59.14r3d64rhaha!
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16:59.38HD2Userlol
16:59.39NeoFluxfun times
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17:00.09r3d64rlol @comcast.net!
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17:00.40NeoFlux~seen pussy
17:00.41aptpussy <~nima@91.99.217.34> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4d 5h 46m 29s ago, saying: 'tnx'.
17:00.47NeoFluxloooooooooooools
17:00.48slayernsahaha
17:00.53NeoFluxdamnit :P
17:00.58CotullaLOL
17:00.59r3d64rlol
17:01.14slayernssaying: tax :D
17:01.17slayernsthx*
17:01.20NeoFlux:P
17:01.27NeoFlux~seen a_womans_pussy
17:01.27aptNeoFlux: i haven't seen 'a_womans_pussy'
17:01.36NeoFluxloooools
17:01.40Cotullalol
17:01.49|Atom|Cotulla: est' novosti xoroshie kasatel'no bsod?
17:01.50HD2Userhaha :D
17:02.00CotullaAND THIS IS CALLED HTC-LINUX????
17:02.02r3d64rawesome
17:02.03Cotulla:D
17:02.14slayernsgood point :)
17:02.21Cotullawe need rename it
17:02.22NeoFluxCotulla: Well, no development talk so we'll have some fun instead :D
17:02.28slayernshtc-linux&fun
17:02.29NeoFluxWhat about that CS server on our HD2? :D
17:02.50Cotulla|Atom|, net
17:03.06slayernsCotulla: any progress on G/BSOD ?
17:03.22HD2User~Commands
17:03.23|Atom|poidy spat' togda )))
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17:04.36NeoFlux!porn
17:04.51CotullaI am not working under bsod now
17:05.00slayernsworking on wifi?
17:05.02CotullaI have temp solution and it's working
17:05.14slayernsok
17:05.14NeoFluxCotulla: ahh, that file you deleted?
17:05.16Cotullaso for now it's enough
17:05.23Cotullacopybits.msm7k.so
17:05.24slayernsagreed
17:05.36NeoFluxCotulla: So wifi next or?
17:05.50Cotullahm I can't say, I am working under several things...
17:06.01NeoFluxsecretive then? :P
17:06.04Cotullano
17:06.06NeoFluxlols
17:06.26NeoFluxHostname: server.tm.local - OS: Linux 2.6.32-21-generic-pae/i686 - CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ (2599.638 MHz) - Processes: 130 - Uptime: 7d 4h 59m - Load Average: 0.07 - Memory Usage: 373.50MB/1980.20MB (18.86%) - Disk Usage: 139.69GB/292.66GB (47.73%)
17:06.27Cotullajust don't want to put anyone to wait...\
17:06.29Jiggscant say what'll work next
17:06.34slayernsBtw, for your knowledge, compass definitely doesn't work on android
17:06.43slayernstried 3 different apps
17:06.44Cotullabecause it's not inited...
17:06.50slayernshmm
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17:06.57CotullaI added init and now Android resets at compass app
17:07.03slayerns:)
17:07.15slayernstried different apps?
17:07.33|Atom|Cotulla: good luck ;)
17:07.43Cotullaone only
17:07.43NeoFluxsomeone suggested gettting wifi up and using google maps
17:07.54Cotullabut seems it need service...
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17:08.23NeoFluxCotulla: Whats our biggest hurdle next?
17:08.28gauner1986hey guys
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17:08.54gauner1986NeoFlux: next hurdle? ^^ current hurdle solved?
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17:09.34NeoFluxgauner1986: Well, he has a temp fix for the G/BSOD issue so I'm just wondering whats going to be hardest to fix
17:09.49gauner1986that's nice
17:10.09gauner1986but no commit yet, i guess
17:10.39NeoFluxgauner1986: you only need to delete a file..
17:10.44gauner1986what?
17:10.46gauner1986^^
17:10.55gauner1986what file?
17:10.56NeoFlux<PROTECTED>
17:11.01Casscopybit.msm7k.so
17:11.02Cotullawho know how to start service in android from "adb shell"?
17:11.05gauner1986fail
17:11.06gauner1986lol
17:11.09rob_____In terms of performance, What can be done? I mean to say, is the laggyness a side affect of too many missing drivers, I read somewhere a report of 3.6 mips in linpack? How can speed be improved once everything is setup correctly
17:11.26gauner1986what does that lib do?
17:11.32Casscopys bits
17:11.37gauner1986oh rly?
17:11.40Cass:D
17:12.01NeoFluxrob_____: The TS test build had a very fast version of Android, but it's bugged to hell.  Drivers is the main issue
17:12.18gauner1986so no crashes anymore?
17:13.17NeoFluxgauner1986: hard locks..
17:13.44gauner1986hard lock meaning hangs?
17:13.52gauner1986so bsods were just replaced by hangs?
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17:14.07LokisSwordlo again
17:14.09NeoFluxgauner1986: No...
17:14.27NeoFluxgauner1986: BSoD's can be temp fixed, but doesn't mean hardware hangs can happen
17:14.51rob_____Ah, Okay thank you, So call me stupid, But I look across other devices and see many systems with similar hardware configurations, For a fact the HTC desire runs the same CPU/GPU combination as the HD2, what is stopping us from simply re-using the same driver package on the HD2
17:14.52LokisSwordGonna have a go at building kernel with that file removed
17:14.57gauner1986yeah.. but the question is.. if they do :P
17:16.48NeoFluxrob_____: Good question, the HD2 was designed with Windows CE in mind, so it's not a question of just copying over because in somecases, that does work i.e. Bravo keypad driver works for the HD2.
17:16.53slayernsCotulla: after deleting  copybit.msm7k.so, should it affect after restart?
17:16.55r3d64ris there a build uploaded somewhere out there without the copybits file?
17:17.19NeoFluxBut unfortunately, it's not as simple as that and that's more of a developers question.  But give them time, there are reasons why it doesn't "just work"
17:17.25slayernsr3d64r, you can delete it by adb if you know how to setup it
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17:20.40slayernstested: deleting copybit works fine, you can return from bsod
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17:21.55`Lawtbh.. ask htc to swap all hd2 for an evo! simple!
17:22.08darkstonehehe
17:22.11slayernsand keyboard keyboard doesn't cause bsod anymore
17:22.13darkstonenexus 1 wallpaper :)
17:22.19darkstoneanimated wallpapers are fun
17:22.39r3d64rslayerns, thanks although I've never setup adb I will give it a try
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17:22.44`Lawindeedy! isnt there a google map ones.. that updates your location on the go in the background?
17:22.51`Lawas in.. its your wallpaper
17:23.02slayernsyou can learn it from logs
17:23.06slayernstoday's or yesterday's
17:23.15darkstoneargh
17:23.20darkstonespeedy mode leo :<
17:23.43darkstonei still find it hilarious really
17:23.52darkstoneandroid is TOO fast in  a sense
17:23.52kreckbtw guys I look at several builds from htc touch pro most of them cannot turn off android how come hd2 can turn off android
17:24.22chris5932http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5vBYE91mN4
17:24.35slayernsok, you can't return from bsod if you wait much :)
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17:33.10kreck@cotulla wuih no more bsod after I rename that file atm I can play with android cheerz
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17:38.50BallsOnFirellkreck is it slower than before?
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17:40.59Sheraz150just finished reading the logs, how do i find that file i need to delete now?
17:41.19chris5932search
17:41.57`Lawwhats the filename called
17:42.13r3d64rcopybits.msm7l.so
17:42.23Casscopybit.msm7k.so
17:42.23r3d64rcopybit.msm7k.so
17:42.25Cassno s
17:42.34Cass:)
17:42.36phhcopybit.qsd8k.so
17:42.43Cass:p
17:42.45Cassthere is none
17:42.49phh(no ? justr trying.)
17:42.49BallsOnFirellbut android become slow and lagy
17:43.01phhI don't know what you're talking about :p
17:43.05Casshaha
17:43.21kreckyes it slower than before
17:43.39Casscant say its much slower though if its noticible
17:43.43kreckbut at least no bsod atm which is good
17:43.50Casspress your power button
17:44.03phhkreck: well, software vs hardware blit, the result is quite obvious.
17:44.28Dexdo you delete in andriod?
17:44.34Cassyep
17:44.34kreckyes
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17:44.55kreckjust go to file explorer and delete/rename it
17:45.06Dexok thanks
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17:45.45kreckbtw when I bot android there is keyboard error what does it mean, system blabla force quite or wait
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17:45.53Cassphh you have sound on any of your previous linux phones ?
17:46.04phhCass: raphael
17:46.07phhwell diamond
17:46.22Cassdoes it use htc-acoustic ?
17:46.26phhyes
17:46.30phhwell it works without it
17:46.37Cassdid the kernel set that /dev up ?
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17:47.24phh<PROTECTED>
17:47.26phhwe don't have it
17:47.28Cassyes
17:47.31Cassuts missing on leo
17:47.35Cassits*
17:47.40phhit is for us too
17:47.43kreck@cass do you use the gsm ver? or the 1rst build
17:47.48Cassi have the acoustic.so but its usless without the /dev
17:47.54Cassgsm
17:47.55phhCass: you think ?
17:48.05phhbecause it's really not :p
17:48.10Cassheh
17:48.11kreckstill got bsod when you delete that file
17:48.21Casswell .. i dont like it telling me it cant find the dev
17:48.37Cassim poking around all over the place for something to fix
17:48.39phh<PROTECTED>
17:48.43phh(.cdb for you i think)
17:48.46phh(or .dat ?)
17:48.46Cassk
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17:48.53NullProphecyHi all- are there any combinations of ROMs known to cause the new Leo Android builds not to boot? I'm running 1.72.110.4 WWE and 2.07.51.22_2 (radio) on a GSM HD2 (T-Mobile UK). Have you any suggestions of rom versions that are known to work? Thanks
17:49.25NeoFluxNullProphecy: Roms are the problem in that regard, Radios are
17:49.35NeoFluxTry using a 2.10+ based radio
17:49.44NullProphecyI'll give that a go - cheers :)
17:49.48Cotullaphh, so I need custom libaudio?
17:49.55phhCotulla: no
17:50.16phhCotulla: N1's libaudio + N1's libhtc_acoustic without /dev/htc_acoustic
17:50.17phhworks fine
17:50.23phh(including on my acer liquid)
17:50.43Cotullan1 libaudio is libaudio.qsd8k.so?
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17:50.48Cassohh so its needs to be n1 eh
17:50.52akoma1sCotulla: the CodeAurora people (Qualcomm) have been working on getting MSM support included in the 2.6.35 mainline kernel: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/staging/2.6/2.6.35-rc1/staging-add-msm-framebuffer-driver.patch
17:51.04Cotullaand?
17:51.04akoma1sperhaps it may save you from quite some effort
17:51.13phhCotulla: I think it's just libaudio.so
17:51.14akoma1sit's a framebuffer driver
17:51.18Cotullayeah
17:51.30phhakoma1s: I don't think they lack any fb driver
17:51.36Cotullabut I don't want to port there stuffs and see that it's not working
17:52.01Cotullaphh, I heard new androids use only GL for draw, right?
17:52.20phhCotulla: yes and no
17:52.21phhmostly no.
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17:52.25Cotullawhy?
17:52.28Cotullaexplain more pls
17:52.37phhCotulla: the launcher (home, main screen, whatever.) uses opengl
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17:52.52phhbut most apps still uses 2D *AFAIK*
17:53.10[acl]someone mention gl?
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17:53.17phhCotulla: 3D needs to blit from gpu memory to video memory
17:53.25phhwhile "true" 2D can be done directly in video memory
17:53.36phh[acl]: qsd8k :p
17:54.01[acl]phh :booo..
17:54.24CotullaI read some discussion
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17:54.41phhCotulla: anyway I don't think your 3D would be complicated to get workiong
17:54.42phh-o
17:55.03Cotullathere someone tell that new androids use GL interface for all draw stuffs, and old I/F like copybits not used
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17:55.32CotullaI basically think it's reason why MSMFB is buggy
17:55.49Cotullabecause it's developed for new devices, so a half of stuffs are not used
17:56.08phhuh ? msmfb's is quite simple
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17:56.26phhhum well
17:56.29phhI mean the exposed API.
17:58.43CotullaI already found several errors in side
17:59.06Cotullabuggy, not tested code, stupid sometimes....
17:59.10gauner1986hmm
17:59.20CotullaI about current MSMFB in htc-msm-2.6.32
17:59.22gauner1986thought google was a division of elite coders
17:59.23gauner1986:D
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17:59.33Cotullanew one from CodeAuro better
17:59.40phhgauner1986: it's not google's work ...
18:00.03gauner1986who did it then? qualcomm?
18:00.12Cotullaelite coders?
18:00.17[acl]sub elite ?
18:00.17Cotullaare u joking?
18:00.39gauner1986at least they're well paid :D
18:01.15Cotullahehe
18:01.17KensanCotulla: hi, are you referring to the msmfb driver in the chromium tree?
18:01.24[acl]phh: wake me up if we start talking bout our 3d issues :-p
18:02.05Cotulla" the msmfb driver in the chromium tree" - I looked to it and it's not looked bad. But it can be complex to port.
18:02.09akoma1sI think a proper framebuffer driver should come first, except if the efforts are targetting android exclusively
18:02.40KensanCotulla: where do you want to port it? 2.6.32?
18:03.02Cotullato htc-msm-2.6.32
18:03.04KensanCotulla: it actually looks like a pain to port.
18:03.19KensanCotulla: I quickly looked into that (for Nexus One).
18:03.32KensanCotulla: there's some "scary" commit messages.
18:03.39Cotullayes, and it's why I don't want to do it
18:03.58gauner1986cotulla: what are you going to do then?
18:04.18Cotulla?
18:04.28gauner1986instead of porting it
18:04.33Cotullasomething else
18:04.37gauner1986^^
18:04.44`Lawcall a friend?
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18:05.43`Lawask the audience?
18:06.59gauner1986i fear there's no phone joker for this topic
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18:08.03DomZlol
18:09.06KensanCotulla: btw, you discovered the initialization issue right? Good catch!
18:09.26akoma1sis the HSPL able to read from the SD card?
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18:20.46fakkerthere is pack for adb on leo?
18:22.49TheDudeSo where is this file we can delete and prevent the BSOD?
18:23.01TheDudeI cant seem to find it.
18:23.03fakkerdelete file, check logs
18:23.07fakkeroh
18:23.17Casshmm interesting results with n1 libaudio :)
18:23.21TheDudeChecked the logs, cant seem to find the file though.
18:23.32DomZCass : means ?
18:23.32gauner1986Cass: sound working! :P
18:23.36Casshangs waiting for the audio service .. need to enable that methinks
18:24.07CassW/AudioSystem(  161): AudioPolicyService not published, waiting...
18:24.07CassI/ServiceManager(  161): Waiting for sevice media.audio_policy...
18:24.09Cassthats new
18:24.21Cassneed to enable the svc .. stay tuned
18:24.49gauner1986^^
18:25.42TheDudeSOUND!
18:26.01gauner1986time for some metal music
18:26.07Casswell not yet but closer than a while ago maybe
18:26.18Blizzzardnice work Cass
18:26.36Cotullahow it will work without kernel support? O_o
18:26.47gauner1986everythings coded in the lib xD
18:26.52Cotullano
18:27.08Cassdunno all i know is its not booting now waiting for audo svc
18:27.16Cassneed to enable that to see what happens
18:27.20Casssomething different so far
18:27.26DomZCotulla: don't breaks our hopes plz :)
18:27.39Cotullahehe
18:27.39Cotullahttp://www.gitorious.org/0xdroid/hardware_msm7k/trees/beagle-eclair/libaudio-qsd8k
18:27.53gauner1986yay
18:27.59Cotullait's just android library stub to kenel
18:28.07DomZmsm7k
18:28.22Cassi pulled one thats for n1 from the web
18:28.22Cotullathay lazy to change
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18:29.00akoma1spardon my ignorance, will this be available through ALSA as well?
18:29.28Cassif you run ubuntu .. probabably
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18:29.48kobolwi know what will happen with this sound service enabled..
18:29.53kobolwyou will get kernel panic
18:30.07akoma1syou said libaudio; is the audio driver implemented as a userspace library?
18:30.08kobolwin qsd-audio-something
18:30.12gauner1986you tried?
18:30.18Cotullano
18:30.20Cotullait's wrapper
18:30.25akoma1sor does it just talk to the kernel alsa driver?
18:30.26Cotullaso it open kernel driver
18:30.29Cotullaand call it
18:30.32kobolwyeah I tired.. but maybe you will get more luck
18:30.39akoma1snice, thanks
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18:31.36LokisSworddhey guys, i'm just setting up my build environment, what tool chain are people using?
18:31.45Alex[sp3dev]btw why have they not migrated to alsa implementation like the one from codeaurora? the whole android thing looks like an attempt to hide the bad design of msm architecture under multiple feature layers
18:31.45kobolwgoogle one or codesourcery
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18:32.18gauner1986codesourcery q1 2010 @ lokisswordd
18:32.19BigDaDDyhi :)
18:32.28kobolwCass: let us know if yoi get this kernel panic
18:32.38Cotullawhy I need alsa?
18:32.51BigDaDDyi see the big guns are here :P
18:32.53BigDaDDyanything new?
18:33.30TheDudeJust sit back and watch the madhattery.
18:33.34CotullaAlex, and where "bad design"?
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18:34.11BigDaDDylol :)
18:34.38akoma1sfd = open("/dev/msm_audio_ctl", O_RDWR);
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18:34.53akoma1sthat doesn't look like ALSA to me :S
18:35.02Cassyeah i have no dev audience
18:35.42akoma1s"speaker amplifier" device: /dev/tpa2018d1
18:35.52Cotullaleo have not it seems
18:36.06Cotullaright?
18:36.20kfazzanybody know what clocks the axi bus freq is derived from?
18:36.20gauner1986what?
18:36.25Cassi dont have it
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18:36.48Cassso many things i dont have .. more looking is needed
18:36.53kfazzplaying with overclocking msm7627 but i only want the arm11 oc'd
18:37.55Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: well, arguable question. i don't like the memory being shared between all devices (gpu, cpu et al). actually, i don't like the pmem allocator, because it looks kind of ugly. and the whole amss thing is weird (if they chose to let amss control hardware, why expose hw to a11 at all? why not do all initialization via a9?). overall it may be not bad but rather unconventional.
18:37.59|Jeroen|what's a normal quadrant score for a diamond100 ?
18:38.48Cotullau know why they are using pmem?
18:39.04DomZis it really a question ? :p
18:39.16Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: because they need to distinguish between reserved areas in ram?
18:39.23Cotullano
18:39.29Alex[sp3dev]why then?
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18:40.16akoma1s"The G1 doesn't use alsa in any way shape or form." -- Dianne Hackborn, Android framework engineer
18:40.53akoma1sthey intend to switch to alsa "in the future"
18:41.01Cotullabecause HW devices need blocks of physical memory with pages in strong order. OS use virtual memory system, so it's possible at some moment driver won't able allocate such buffer, because RAM will be too defragmented
18:41.27DomZfragmented
18:41.38Cotullaso they allocate reserved blocks outside of OS
18:41.51Cotullaand driver always can get such memory blocks
18:42.21Alex[sp3dev]ok, thanks for the explanation. could you explain how other platforms deal with the problem? like pxa and omap?
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18:42.43Cotullapxa - htc also allocate a big buffers outside of OS memory
18:42.49DomZCass : any news about the sound driver try?
18:42.59Cotullafor example in HTC Universal there about 5 MB for camera DMA buffers
18:43.21Cotullabut there hardware is not so complex, so it doesn't need a lot of memory
18:43.32CassDomZ, no not yet
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18:43.40Cotullaalso on PXA u can setup DMA chains
18:43.41DomZok
18:43.47Cassits not panicking when stop / staert media
18:44.08DomZyou already add the audio service ?
18:44.10gauner1986but no sound
18:44.10gauner1986:P
18:44.14CotullaOMAP should do something like this
18:44.40Cassgauner1986, cant get it to but fully to see :) but from logcat i can see its spinning
18:45.33Cotullawhere?
18:45.44DomZspeakers problem ?
18:45.56Alex[sp3dev]phh: you here?
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18:46.03phhyup
18:46.13DomZdoes speakers use GPIO ?
18:46.20Alex[sp3dev]mind adding kovsky to rootfs?
18:46.44Casshttp://pastebin.com/5aAVQw7w
18:46.48Cassthats where it spins
18:47.23Cotullaoh
18:47.39DomZmay be Cotulla is right, kernel has no audio support ?
18:47.40gauner1986htc acoustic... :D
18:47.46Cotullalol
18:47.51Cassill be surpeised if he's not
18:47.53Arash18khe is right :p
18:47.57Cotullathere _really_ no support
18:48.04CotullaI am working under it now...
18:48.08Cotulla:P
18:48.10Casswtf do i know .. im an opertunist
18:48.11DomZCool !!
18:48.13gauner1986under or on it? ^^
18:48.27fakkerunder means he's getting fucked
18:48.32fakker;D
18:48.33Cotullawho knows.. but I edit board-htcleo-audio.c
18:48.35Cotulla:D
18:48.37fakkercool
18:48.38gauner1986like fakked? :P
18:48.42Alex[sp3dev]phh: i will make patches and send them some time later. also while we're not done with panel driver, i think adding the support for display rotation to surfaceflinger might be a solution. in other words, i will be preparing kovsky to be merged to xdandroid
18:48.46fakkeronly in private ;]
18:48.52DomZlol
18:49.09DomZI hope there is no ladies around
18:49.12gauner1986:D
18:49.14gauner1986nah
18:49.15gauner1986never
18:49.18gauner1986in this channel
18:49.19gauner1986:D
18:49.20phhAlex[sp3dev]: kernel-side rotation could be useful for scaling aftewards
18:49.20[acl]ladies ? you crazy
18:49.26fakkerChanServ is a lady
18:49.30fakkershe doesn't say much
18:49.33gauner1986or apt
18:49.33phh(and hopefully have 3D needing a bit less memory)
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18:49.45gauner1986~seen cr2
18:49.48aptcr2 <n=cr2@ip-109-84-74-80.web.vodafone.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 159d 22h 28m 55s ago, saying: 'MrPippy: where is this source ?'.
18:49.54gauner1986so
18:49.58gauner1986where IS the source?
18:50.01Cass<PROTECTED>
18:50.02aptcr2_ <~cr2@ip-109-40-9-180.web.vodafone.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 4d 21h 15m 51s ago, saying: 'ok, good night'.
18:50.11gauner1986ah okay :D
18:50.14Alex[sp3dev]phh: 3d is not working even without rotation so don't care for it now
18:50.15gauner1986he forgot his password
18:50.16gauner1986:P
18:50.35phhAlex[sp3dev]: I didn't meant only for you :p
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18:54.19MindreaverI want to delete copybits.msm7k.so, but where is it located? (noob here)
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18:54.57Cassit hides in system
18:55.11Casslib
18:55.20Cassdrop the s
18:55.30Mindreaveraight, ty :)
18:55.50kreckbtw guys every time I boot android it seem there is more files in my sdcard by name0** is that some kind of haret log file
18:55.59[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: be thankful your gpu at least wakes up ... :-)
18:56.02MicroangHow long is the Sense_Leo android take to load, mine keeps looping hero :(
18:56.07darkstoneright
18:56.11darkstoneis doing a test
18:56.23darkstonegonna leave the hd2 for as long as i can
18:56.26darkstonewithout interacting
18:56.33darkstoneand see how long it takes to get BSOD
18:56.34darkstonexD
18:56.40darkstone(on sense build)
18:56.47Microangyep
18:56.56darkstonehas the nexus 1 animated wallpaper enabled
18:57.04Alex[sp3dev][acl] i wonder if it may need to be punched via rpc to work. or if it can even be initialized via rpc only
18:57.32[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: i had rpc nightmares yesterday.. its ugly
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18:58.53Microangis GSm possible on the Sense build cause I can't boot with the rootfs from the GSM build?
18:59.00darkstonedoes the phone still charge when you already have the charger cable plugged in and run haret?
18:59.11darkstonei have the orange led glowing
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18:59.35Cassthink so .. i aint run out of battery in 2 days of android
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19:01.35MicroangGSM on Sense Build?
19:03.26TheDudeNo such ting?
19:03.36TheDudething*
19:03.46Cassprobably can be added
19:04.05Cassdo you have rild and associated libriries ?
19:04.18Cassi think thats what was added to gms build to fix
19:04.25darkstonecan be added
19:04.36darkstonejust use rootfs from gsm build of android
19:04.55TheDudeWill there be a build with that file deleted to help from BSOD'ng?
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19:05.22MicroangI tried and it just kept looping the hero animation, I'm trying to boot it now with the original rootfs.
19:05.34nineX_are you the same "TheDude" as the android dev?
19:06.03TheDudeummmmmmm No.  Theres another TheDude?
19:06.54nineX_yeah, does android cooking and dev work
19:06.59nineX_:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
19:07.06MicroangNow it works! GRR without the gsm!:(
19:07.35MicroangBSOD! on force quit? reebooting
19:07.46Microang*rebooting
19:07.46TheOtherDudeGRR?
19:07.53high-rezI think TheDude's real name is Jeff Lebowski.
19:08.01MicroangI wanted gsm to work
19:08.04Cassahh grrr sounds like a growl to me
19:08.15high-rezOr El Duderino.  His Dudeness.
19:08.20Microanglol yes, thats what I meant cass
19:08.25TheOtherDudeThe dudes car got a little dinged up.
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19:09.03high-rezThis is what happens when you **@!@ a stranger in the @!#.
19:09.13rob___Hey, Netripper you still there?
19:09.27rob___any progess on bsod
19:09.48HD2User~seen NetRipper
19:09.50aptnetripper is currently on #htc-linux. Has said a total of 388 messages. Is idling for 1d 13m 28s, last said: 'sometimes'.
19:09.50Microangso where do I find the copybits.msm7k.so file?
19:10.12LokisSworddhttp://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/package6490/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/arm-2010q1-202-arm-none-linux-gnueabi.bin
19:10.18TheOtherDudeOVER THE LINE!!!!
19:10.23LokisSworddThis the correct toolchain?
19:10.37high-rezI am the walrus.
19:10.49LokisSworddMicroang - it isn't a file in android, it is a file used when compiling the kernel
19:11.02darkstonei'll test GSM version later on
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19:11.16DecayingHi guys
19:11.22LokisSworddHey Decaying
19:11.28HD2Usercan someone upload kernel without copybits.msm7k.so file then?
19:11.33DecayingHow things going today?
19:11.38Microangoops, don't have linux installed so can't compile one. :(
19:11.43Arash18kguys anyone know where i can find n1 rom?
19:11.54LokisSworddI'm trying to setup compile environment, then I'll post one
19:12.06CassHD2User, its not a kernel
19:12.07Microangthanks LokisSwordd
19:12.14HD2Userhttp://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/300414/10-may-erd79-epf21b-stock-rom-for-nexus-one-images-zip-online-kitchen-optional-root-insecure-himem/
19:12.17high-rezGoogle has a good collection of n1 roms.  Perhaps try xda-developers though ?
19:12.23HD2UserCass whatever
19:12.48darkstonebeen 20 minutes now
19:12.50darkstoneno BSOD
19:12.52Arash18ktnx
19:12.58LokisSworddCass - in initrd?
19:12.59darkstonekeeps phone running
19:13.06TheOtherDudeYes HD2User, I would like that "build" myself.
19:13.08darkstonei noticed, the clock is at normal speed too
19:13.20deferwhere did you guys come up with the MSM_GPU_MEM_SIZE ?
19:13.26deferI see it's using less than the desire or n1
19:13.30TheOtherDudeWhat build you running darkstone?
19:13.32Cassits in system
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19:15.22Microangso you need to extract and recompile the sense version / each version?
19:15.33darkstone<PROTECTED>
19:15.41darkstonemy own sense 2.1 build
19:15.58amd64bhi
19:16.01Microangdarkstone, how'd you stop the bsod then?
19:16.03TheOtherDudeAhhhh.  Without the copybits.msm7k.so file then?
19:16.09HD2Usersup
19:16.28kreck@cass I am using gsm mode, how you turn on it, I still cannot see any signal at my top bar
19:16.53Cassgo in to settings and select a carrier
19:16.57Casswireless
19:17.01Casssomewhere in there
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19:17.11amd64bi haven't any sound
19:17.11kreckic ic ok try again
19:17.15darkstoneMicroang: disable all type of data service/vibration/sound
19:17.16HD2Usergsm build doesn't work for all as far as i know
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19:17.41Microangso you haven't deleted the copybits.msm7k.so file?
19:18.00LeTamahello guys
19:18.05Casshello
19:18.06TheOtherDudeI cant even get into the sense build.
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19:18.07darkstonenope
19:18.12HD2Userhi
19:18.17kreckafter delete the copybits haven't see any bsod even using backspace at keyboard
19:18.21darkstoneTheOtherDude: i suggest deleting the data.img file
19:18.31darkstoneand boot haret, if the cursor is blinking fast
19:18.33darkstonedont bother
19:18.34Microangkreck how'd you delete it?
19:18.34rob___hey everyone, how did people identify problems with the "copybits.msm7k.so" file, Is this simple by trial and error, Or by looking through logs?
19:18.41darkstoneand keep rebooting until it blinks at normal speed
19:18.47Cassit was Cotulla
19:18.56darkstonethen go through setup, make sure you disable google location service
19:19.00Cass@rob
19:19.04rob___ah okay, thanks
19:19.11darkstonethen go into settings, disable sound/vibration/screen timeout/screen rotation
19:19.24darkstonedisable stocks/application data updates too
19:19.41TheOtherDudeBut delete that copybits file first?
19:19.48darkstonei havent done that
19:19.51rob___people are just attempting to get stability by disabling things, I see no way that this can help,
19:20.08darkstoneits not to help
19:20.16darkstoneits just to avoid bsod until the problem is solved
19:20.17rob___Has anyone established if the blue screen is caused by a single incident, Or can be caused from multiple things?
19:20.19darkstoneit isnt a fix ;)
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19:21.26TheOtherDudeand where do I find this data.img file?
19:21.30TheOtherDude@darkstone
19:21.36darkstoneits in the 7z file
19:21.42Microangselect live wallpaper = bsod
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19:21.51darkstoneselect nexus 1 wallpaper
19:21.53phh[acl]: you did something about grp init ?
19:21.54darkstoneim running it right now
19:21.56darkstoneits working
19:22.06rob___ive managed to select live wallpapers fine
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19:22.29darkstoneok, i'll test GSM now
19:22.34kreckseem no gsm for me atm
19:22.35darkstonebeen 30 mins
19:22.39darkstoneno bsod as of yet
19:22.40kreckni sim card detected
19:22.41LeTamaCass, you've been working on wifi, right ? I took a quick look, I'm up to here: http://pastebin.com/zQ2KwrRb , same as you ?
19:22.51Microang<darkstone> thats what I did
19:22.57TheOtherDudeSo delete that whole file?
19:23.00darkstoneyep
19:23.05darkstoneboot will take longer
19:23.12darkstonebut it should help any problems
19:24.01TheOtherDudeLooks to be a pretty good size zip
19:24.03CassLeTama, yeah ... when you compile the bcm4329 module from the kernel and insmod it it fails .. Cotuall found that more kernel code is required
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19:24.30LeTamaCass, I added some code, but it seems that I need more
19:24.41CassLeTama, ooh ok .. cool ..
19:24.49[acl]phh: well i didnt have much time but i looked at the commit log. you dont have anythign for grp rail
19:25.04CassLeTama, you have the kernel module ?  or built it right in kernel ?
19:25.18LeTamaCass: as module
19:25.24Cassk cool ..
19:25.33[acl]phh: i kept trying different ways to call the connect. and the error i get now its something about sleeping irq or some nonsesne. Thats when everything blows up.
19:25.58phhmeeh ?
19:26.41LeTamaCass: Any idea on what I'm missing ?
19:27.04[acl]phh: wait let me crash my phone and ill tell you the exact message
19:27.18rob___guys, My understanding is... running windowss CE>Ram wipe> boot LINUX kernal to ram> Load drivers within LINUX kernal>boot android from LINUX kernal,  Is this right? (Sorry for questions)
19:27.23CassLeTama, what happens when you insmod the bcm4329.ko ?
19:27.30Cassand what does dmesg say ?
19:27.37darkstonehehe
19:27.40darkstoneso charging DOES work
19:27.51LeTamaCass: the dmesg in the pastebin
19:28.15Cassdoes insmod complete with success ?
19:28.20Casslsmod show it ?
19:28.24phhyou're already working on wifi ?!?
19:28.27phhdamn I hate you.
19:28.27LeTamalsmod shows it yes
19:28.32Casswow
19:28.49LeTamahowever, I don't have device
19:29.36Casswhat you have for device name in /dev ?
19:29.47Cassand whats in your init.rc to plumb it up or name it ?
19:30.26Cassand where is the patch so i can play ? :)
19:30.27LeTamaI don't have any device in /dev
19:31.09darkstoneyep gsm rootfs.img doesnt make it past htc screen
19:31.19LeTamanothing added in init.rc. I should have the device coming by itself with the module, right ?
19:31.23darkstoneon sense build
19:31.36Cass<4>[ 1558.845582] dhd_module_init: sdio_register_driver timeout
19:31.36Cass<4>[ 1560.465658] dhd_bus_start failed bus is not ready
19:31.36Cass<4>[ 1560.466525] dhdsdio_probe: failed
19:31.46CassLeTama, thats what Cotulla mentioned was the issue
19:31.54Casssdio is not complete
19:32.38LeTamahum, ok.
19:33.07Cassi got as far as reading code and asking wtf the issue was
19:33.21Casslooked like it did not power up
19:33.34Cassbut im not so good with a low level like that
19:33.36TheOtherDude@darkstone.  So your saying I should delete the Data.img zip file?  It looks to be the largest file in build?
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19:34.23[acl]phh: sorry its too fast..there is an error there .. i just need to dig it out. But bottom line is rpc call right now 300000f bombs our
19:35.23Cassim off for a while .. see yall later !!
19:35.27darkstoneyep
19:35.29darkstonedelete it
19:35.32LeTamalater
19:35.34darkstonethen run haret again
19:35.39darkstoneit'll generate a new one
19:35.46TheOtherDudeOh ok.
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19:35.49HD2Usercan someone upload system without copybits.msm7k.so ?
19:36.11kreckchanjust delete manually at droid
19:36.14TheOtherDude@hd2user +eleventybillion
19:36.17TheOtherDudeHow?
19:36.51Microanghow kerckchan?
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19:37.34kreckchan\system\lib\hw
19:37.42kreckchango to file xplorer
19:37.47slayernsok, i am going to upload the system without copybit
19:37.52slayernswait for a whiel
19:37.52kreckchanthen system-lib hw
19:37.53slayernswhile*
19:38.01fakkermount -o loop system.ext2 /media/somewhere
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19:38.43HD2Useroks ty
19:39.11Microangslayerns is that the sense build your going to upload?
19:39.17slayernsno
19:39.22slayernsyou want sense?
19:39.27TheOtherDudeDamn.  BSOD booting!
19:39.43slayernsif you want sense, nvm
19:39.45Microangyes, is gsmm possible also slayerns?
19:39.51slayernsno sense but gsm
19:39.53Microang*gsm
19:39.56slayernsgsm is ok
19:40.03TheOtherDudeDOEEEET!!!
19:40.06Microangno is gsm possible in the sense version?
19:40.20slayernsit is possible but i have something else to do
19:40.30kreckchandoh so sleepy playing with droid at its morning already
19:40.35Microangok, just wondering
19:40.41slayernswhatever, use normal methods to delete copybit..
19:41.10MicroangI open the file maneger and bsod, rebooting. :(
19:41.18Microang*manager
19:41.39kreckchan@microang so have u find it
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19:42.16rob___How good of a port can be possible eventually? And once 2.1 is ported will it be a simple task to port 2.2?
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19:43.30Microangevery time I open astro in the sense build to find and delete it it bsod's after saying expired, wait few seconds...
19:43.56Microang2.2 is already available, check yesterday on the logs
19:44.02rob___@micro , im about to try in sense build will tell you
19:44.07rob___ah my bad
19:44.47Microang@ rob it's quite buggy so I wouldn't recommend it
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19:46.23HD2Usertried to delete it through file manager but couldn't
19:46.31slayernsthere are rumors about android 3.0 lately?
19:46.38slayernscoming on september 2010?
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19:46.43rob___ive heard these rumors too, should be soon
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19:46.46rob___wheres file location
19:46.47TheOtherDudeHmmmm my phone did not like me deleting that data.img file.... not one bit.
19:46.55Microangpocketnow said october
19:47.06fakkerwoo i can use the slide to unlock
19:47.19HD2Usersystem/lib/hw
19:47.22rob___ty
19:47.41kreckwill they upgrade it with other device
19:47.47gauner1986android 3.0 with integrated leo support
19:47.49gauner1986*yay*
19:47.54Microanglol
19:47.55LokisSworddyay killed the file, no bsods for me :)
19:47.55borstehwishes
19:47.58rob___i seem to get fast clock 80% of the time, but occasionaly its slow
19:48.05rob___lol
19:48.09HD2Useri have moved it but i get bluescreen
19:48.09lpsi2000Wgauner1986, lol
19:48.11kreckeven xperia x10 still using 1,6
19:48.16rob___or normal rathger then slow
19:48.23HD2Userdon't know if its moved or not
19:48.26rob___hd2, i think you must reboot
19:48.31MicroangLokisSwordd are u running sense?
19:48.36TheOtherDudeI sure wish someone would upload that without that file.
19:48.48HD2User:P
19:48.48fakkerim not gonna upload 150mb for 1 missing file
19:48.48rob___what does the file actually do
19:48.53fakkeri dont see anyone else doing that either
19:49.27Microangif I can get it deleted which file do I have to upload?
19:49.30[acl]phh: ohh.. and i think you are right about not having the right parameters. When i try to call the rail rpc functions on wince, the phone bombs out too. I may need you to look at the asm :-p
19:49.39HD2Useri will in a moment if i have rid of it
19:49.45phh[acl]: just in case ..
19:49.47phhyou read the wiki ? :p
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19:49.53phhah no sorry
19:49.56phhparams are not on the wiki
19:50.18[acl]phh: i live in the wiki now.. its my new home
19:50.23phh:)
19:50.37phhwell, let me do that, I'm used to reverse rpc now
19:50.48phhit might even be somewhere on my harddrive.
19:50.51HD2Userdamn its still there
19:50.56HD2Userhave to kill it somehow
19:51.09Microangwhat chat client is everyone using, I couldn't find it on wiki so I'm on http://en.gogloom.com/client2/index2?mainCHAT=1&network=FreeNode&channel=%23htc-linux
19:51.23TheOtherDudeI cant even get into it through android.  Keeps telling me astro is out of date.
19:51.53NeoMatrixJRMicroang: if you're a firefox person I suggest chatzilla.  working alright for me....
19:52.00HD2Userffs freeze
19:52.14HD2Userhow do i kill this process ?
19:52.21LokisSworddTake the journey, install wubi, manpage mount and rm :D
19:52.35rob___that was weird, never had that before, booted android like normal, unlocked, then htc bootscreen came up(white one with green HTC) with android volume up overlay ontop of it...
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19:52.49slayernsuse http://webchat.freenode.net/ for chat here
19:53.19[acl]phh: ok so do you magic. it may not even be rail on thats the issue, but it would be nice to connect to the rpc
19:53.31phh[acl]: wait
19:53.35phhit's the rpc_connect who crashes ?
19:53.52[acl]phh; yeah..
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19:54.10[acl]phh: and yes i did use the right version
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19:54.48phh[acl]: oh.
19:54.52phhwhat did you do wrong ? :p
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19:55.18phh[acl]: pastebin your code ?
19:55.19zoran123456hello everyone
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19:55.33zoran123456will not talk much, but 1 question i has
19:55.35[acl]phh: msm_rpc_connect takes 3 vals. first is the 0x300 blah blah .. , second is the version and i dunno what the last is. but i use 0 or 1 to test
19:55.36Microang_Great it works
19:55.42Microang_now on http://webchat.freenode.net/
19:55.44[acl]phh: im at work so ill have to do it later.
19:56.02phhsmd_rpcrouter.c:struct msm_rpc_endpoint *msm_rpc_connect(uint32_t prog, uint32_t vers, unsigned flags)
19:56.04phhinterruptible or not
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19:56.10zoran123456who is updating http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=LeoAndroidStatus site ?
19:56.12phh(it's the only flag I'm aware of)
19:56.19dyatell[rus]can someone upload system without copybits.msm7k.so ?
19:56.22zoran123456not updated for  long time
19:56.22phh[acl]: you can try userland RPC if you want
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19:56.45[acl]phh: but grp rail on is called when 3d inits. early before userland
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19:57.27DiscoLives4everMy linux experience is limited to the x86(-64) environment, but I've had great success using ndiswrapper for BCM43xx chips. Has there been any luck adapting ndiswrapper to Android?
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19:57.40[acl]phh: on clocks-wince we reset the clocks. thats where i do the rpc call.
19:57.52phhok
19:58.03phhDiscoLives4ever: why would you use ndiswrapper ?!?
19:58.21phhwe have open source bcm43{29,25} drivers
19:58.42DiscoLives4everoh alright. It's been a few years since I've worked with it haha
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19:59.07slayernswhich RTC does qsd8250 use?
19:59.15DiscoLives4everlast I used it ndiswrapper was the only thing that worked consistently. clearly i'm out of my element, carry on
19:59.27canthonyzaso how many attempts to log on to linux with incorrect password before it gets locked? lol
19:59.36phhDiscoLives4ever: I don't even know which phone you're talking about though.
19:59.41DiscoLives4everhd2
19:59.43phhcanthonyza: depends on the settings
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19:59.47phhmostly infinity.
19:59.52Microang_Try http://megaupload.com/?d=FUROT3YV astro version? I'm trying it now just put it in your android apps
19:59.53phhDiscoLives4ever: yup, we have drivers for them.
19:59.55canthonyzagrrrr... my memory sucks
19:59.59phhslayerns: what do you mean ?
20:00.20phhslayerns: RTC as the thing to retrieve the current time ?
20:00.28slayernsnope, real time clock
20:00.48phhgptimer/dgtimer then
20:00.54LokisSworddwill mount take a .bin file
20:00.56phh(the choice is a compile time one)
20:00.56TheOtherDudeJust booted into sense, says SAFEMODE on the bottom.
20:00.57slayernschip?
20:01.53phhslayerns: qsd8250 ?
20:02.07phhthey are SoC, they are not going to use external clocks ...
20:02.10slayernsdoes it use its own clock?
20:02.12slayernshmm
20:02.20Microang_what file manager is on the non sense build?
20:02.23canthonyzathis our up to date git for leo? git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git ?
20:03.07kfazzany ideas on how to match a random kernel tree to a specific git commit?
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20:04.23slayernsi think there is not much more low level info needed to write/modify a driver if you know call addresses, right?
20:05.23slayernsi know 8051 asm but seems a little bit low level for building driver
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20:07.32phhslayerns: yup
20:07.37Jiggsandroid wont stay alive long enough for me to get to that damn file :(
20:07.44phhbuy GP/DG timers drivers are already written.
20:08.07slayernsyeah i know that, asked for just curiosity
20:08.15phhok
20:08.24TheOtherDudeKeeps telling me the version is outdated. GRRRRRRR.
20:08.24CotullaRTC via RPC
20:08.31phhbut yes, they are just some hardware registers in memory to write
20:08.33phhCotulla: he said timers.
20:08.39Cotullaoh timers
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20:08.51rob___this file that everyone is deleting because of the blue screen, Does it properly fix this issue, and what was the purpose of it?
20:08.55slayernsphh: i wanna give it a shot on writing drivers, what docs do you suggest to read?
20:09.09phhslayerns: qualcomm's doc ? xD
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20:09.34slayernsphh: qualcomm's docs will be necessary when i need but first i need OS related ones, don't i?
20:10.04phhslayerns: not really, you can use timers in your own code, without publishing it to the rest of the kernel
20:10.11phhyou just need request_irq
20:10.16phhand readl/writel
20:10.35CotullaI wanna kill who make writel
20:10.40phhCotulla: ?
20:10.44Cotullawhy it have reversed parameters?!?
20:10.47phhah.
20:10.48phhright.
20:10.59slayernsfor instance i don't know much about irq
20:11.47slayernsomg, i didn't know irq means interrupt request :)
20:11.55slayernsok i know about irq :D
20:12.27Microang_anyone wating to delete the copybits.msm7k.so should download this http://www.4shared.com/file/149073212/86480887/comlindaandnylindamanager.html and paste it into their android apps folder! :)
20:12.41borstehwhats this again
20:13.20Microang_a file manager
20:13.26Microang_astro doesn't work
20:13.27borstehcant get adb working :\ could it because of my usb driver?
20:13.38TheOtherDudeDoes it matter what folder we put it in within the android apps folder?
20:13.51TheOtherDude@microang
20:13.57Microang_the root of the apps folder is where you want to put it
20:14.01canthonyzashould be root of androidapps
20:14.06TheOtherDudegotcha
20:14.13slayernsborsteh trying on linux?=
20:15.36borstehw7
20:15.53slayernstry on linux
20:15.55slayernsworks like charm
20:16.06borstehdont have linux :X
20:16.11slayernsset it up then :)
20:16.13slayernson vm
20:16.27slayernsif you have trouble in setting up on pc
20:16.32slayernsactual hdd
20:16.47borstehcould it be beacuse of the mtty drivers?
20:17.29borstehchanged usb drivers for the device
20:17.38slayernsdunno
20:17.38Cotullaphh, u know how to start android service from adb shell?
20:17.48phhCotulla: setprop ctl.start xxxx
20:18.05slayernsbut seems not much of people are successful getting adb to work on win7
20:18.11akoma1s~mtty
20:18.23Microang_I've deleted the copybits.msm7k.so anyone want me to upload? P.S. what file should I upload?
20:18.34Microang_sense build btw
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20:18.46slayernsok Microang_ we got it
20:18.51borstehakoma1s what about it
20:19.03TheOtherDudeSo does linda manager auto install?
20:19.24Cotullaphh not working
20:19.25Microang_if you put it in the android apps folder it auto installs yes
20:19.34phhCotulla: works fine for me :p
20:19.34akoma1swhat does it mean?
20:19.39phhCotulla: see getprop |grep svc
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20:20.33borstehto perform task 29
20:20.39borsteha uhm i guess a program?
20:20.52Microang_go to xda developers and look under the hd2 rom development thread
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20:21.56akoma1smtty is a windows program using activesync to talk to hspl
20:22.02akoma1shope apt catches it
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20:22.15[acl]phh: if you are able to connect and send commands.. we can set all sorts of clocks that way.. it would actually call for a celebration ..
20:22.26rob___does deleting this file fix all blue screen problems/
20:22.30borstehthere you go :P
20:22.32rob___please
20:23.06slayernsread logs, read read read
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20:23.24rob___I have, but people say differnt things
20:23.29phh[acl]: I already did.
20:23.33phhbut nothing came out from there
20:23.36slayernsit does what cotulla says
20:23.37Cotullathe screen is green
20:23.39phhI think I've some code about it somewhere.
20:23.42slayernshelps you to return from bsod
20:23.44borstehis blue Cotulla :P
20:23.51slayernsand you can slide 2 unlock
20:23.52CotullaI have green screen
20:23.59borstehyou're special
20:24.01borsteh:P
20:24.10DomZplease use gsod now :)
20:24.14phhah right I cleaned these samples for GPS.
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20:24.53borstehgsod
20:25.00rob___cotulla, describe a object same colour as screen
20:25.04phhI think I'll do a CLI to RPC. would be easier.
20:25.08borstehthe sky
20:25.16borstehskype icon
20:25.20kreckmine is blue, i know cotulla might change something into his kernel that make his screen green
20:25.22dyatell[rus]on zhe  siniy)))
20:25.42Cotullaáûë çåëåíûé... ðåàëüíî...
20:25.43DomZmay be he has to change his eyes :p
20:25.52[acl]phh: wtf.. you can connect with no issues? damni.. is it a cdma thing again?
20:25.56kreckmake it different than the otherv:D
20:26.04phh[acl]: na
20:26.09phh[acl]: I'm pretty sure you do something wrong :p
20:26.18dyatell[rus]кодировка подвела меня))
20:26.22rob___maybe hes main language not english and translate wrong
20:26.42phh[acl]: I think I never succeeded into having working RPC made by hand in the kernel :p
20:27.18borstehim sure he knows whats blue and green :P
20:27.22[acl]phh: ok i feel better.. so CLI to rpc then?
20:27.46IncognitoManwonder what happened to binarydriod....
20:27.49kreckblue is for user, green for master ?
20:27.54RedRaiderlol
20:28.04borstehprolly aye :P
20:28.07[acl]IncognitoMan: maybe he realized its not that easy ?
20:28.09DomZblue pils or red pils ? :)
20:28.14phh[acl]: oh right, I did actually try that
20:28.15phh:
20:28.17IncognitoManlol....who knows
20:28.17phhhttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/280f27d28e1d13d5c46415139859f208db73da03
20:28.23phhjust note the message of the commit.
20:28.47HD2UserMicroang_ how did you delete it with com.lindaandny.lindamanager ?
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20:29.02dyatell[rus]Cotulla, big spasibo i udachi )
20:29.10HD2Userit says file read only
20:29.26[acl]phh : hahahah Revert "Revert "Rever
20:29.42Cotullaapt what?
20:29.46phhapt: what ?
20:29.48akoma1sfunny bot
20:29.58phh[acl]: yeah that.
20:30.11Cotullahm
20:30.16kiozen~lart apt
20:30.16aptstuffs kiozen into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it
20:30.17fakker????????
20:30.24akoma1shahahah
20:30.30kiozen:)
20:31.21Microang_I just went to the directory myphone/system/lib/hw/ and tapped and held and clicked delete on copybits.msm7k.so
20:31.28Cotullawe won't have sound on android
20:31.30Cotulla:(
20:31.35phhCotulla: ?
20:31.36Microang_why?
20:31.37borsteh:O
20:31.39CotullaCotullatell me how to run sound on android?
20:31.39CotullaaptNo, cotulla, I won't. (target invalid?)
20:31.39CotullaCotullaok
20:31.40Cotullaaptfine
20:31.40Microang_:O
20:31.45phhlol
20:31.45Cotulla:D :D :D
20:31.58Cotullastupid bot.
20:32.01borsteh:(
20:32.04borstehapt is against us
20:32.08Cotullaprevious one help me repair my WinXP once
20:32.12Cotulla|L
20:32.35Microang_HD2User any luck?
20:32.44HD2Userno :(
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20:33.11akoma1s~nickometer dan1j3l
20:33.13[acl]phh: well according to this commit you didnt have the right version number ept=msm_rpc_connect(0x3000000f, 0x0, 0);
20:33.23phh[acl]: na
20:33.27phhI'm always right
20:33.32Microang_is it in your app tray?
20:33.34phh[acl]: that code was for 5225
20:33.40HD2Userno
20:33.41dan1j3l:p
20:34.03borstehi just realised i have 8 processors
20:34.04borsteh:|
20:34.09HD2Useryou mean the top bar?
20:34.14akoma1sbtw, there is a big push to have alsa support in froyo
20:34.23Microang_it should be called Linda File Manager, can you see that?
20:34.45Microang_in the little arrow on the bottom left
20:35.12[acl]phh: ahh i see.. makes sense .. but yeah i did exaclty the same.. and connect bombs .. so my code cant be that wrong :-)
20:35.23HD2Useri have it installed and opened and then i have found this file tap hold on it and delete but i get error : Read only file
20:35.28HD2Usercannot delete
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20:36.14Microang_I didn't get that, it just deleted..., should I upload my system.sqsh?
20:36.27Microang_or what file contains it?
20:36.47HD2Userbut you've got sense
20:36.58Microang_yep
20:37.12Microang_do you?
20:37.12HD2Userbtw. did you delete file in : system/lib/hw ?
20:37.17Microang_yep
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20:37.27zoran123456sorry for interruption all,
20:37.32HD2Userno i've got the standard one
20:37.36HD2Userwithout sense
20:37.41TheOtherDudeawwww.  I deleted that file and still got the BSOD.
20:37.47zoran123456first: site http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=LeoAndroidStatus is not working
20:37.56borstehsadly
20:38.01borstehonly for you zoran123456; working for me
20:38.02DomZworking here
20:38.07Microang_do you want sense? It works great, just no gsm.
20:38.17zoran123456weird ...
20:38.33zoran123456nevermind, i have second queston
20:38.43HD2Userokay :P
20:38.46HD2Userthank you :)
20:38.50TheOtherDudeSo you guys deleted that file and havent had a single BSOD?
20:38.54borstehi did
20:38.56zoran123456how much is slower android with software rendering ?
20:38.56darkstonepro tip, set read only attribute to both data.img and a sqsh file
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20:39.03zoran123456i mean, withou that ... .SO file .. ?
20:39.05darkstoneprevents corruption after BSOD
20:39.09darkstone(on sense build)
20:39.14Microang_will upload it now then, then I'll try fixing the non sense gsm version. ;)
20:39.25borstehwell zoran123456; to me seems normal, maybe because theres no video driver thats why its a little laggy
20:39.25TheOtherDudeMine bsod'd but I couldnt recover from it.
20:39.32borstehbut not so noticable for me
20:39.37HD2Userokay :) ty
20:39.41zoran123456ok, thank you very much
20:39.43LokisSworddno bluescreens here yet
20:39.44zoran123456logging off
20:40.05DomZ4. USB
20:40.07DomZ<PROTECTED>
20:40.09DomZstill true ?
20:40.14dyatell[rus]Microang_, upload your system.sqsh plz
20:40.27TheOtherDudeIm a sad panda now.
20:40.31borstehwhy sad
20:40.50TheOtherDudeI deleted the file and still bsoding
20:40.57DecayingHey guys, Hows the HD2 bsod issue going?
20:41.11DomZread logs
20:41.22Microang_mine isn't bsoding anymore and am just copying it off my hd2 now to upload
20:41.24Microang_:)
20:41.34borstehnot bsoding at all?
20:41.51HD2User^^
20:41.51Microang_not yet, tell me where you bsod and I'll try it
20:42.11borstehmmm
20:42.12borstehforgot where
20:42.12TheOtherDudeMine just does it randomly
20:42.13DecayingMicroang_ what one are you using?
20:42.17borstehbut i did try del button
20:42.17borstehetc
20:42.18DomZdisplay settings
20:42.19borstehno bsod lol
20:42.22DomZscreen timeout
20:42.24Microang_abduction works but no g sensor :( sense version
20:43.57Cotulla~leoramconsole
20:44.07Cotulla~
20:44.15DomZ^^
20:44.27Cotullawho remember addresses?
20:44.31HD2User~
20:44.44Cotulla~leo
20:44.45apti guess leo is a lion.  Law Enforcement Officer
20:44.45rob___people...read through logs, found nothing on this, Will a 3D capable graphics drive be able to be ported for the AMD z430/adreno 200, same GPU as desire etc...
20:44.57Cotulla~htcleo
20:44.59dan1j3lpwf myramconsole 0x2FFC0000 0x40000
20:45.02Cotullathks
20:45.43dan1j3lcotulla: what are u trying to do now?
20:46.08Cotullaneed to debug system hang
20:46.18slayernsCotulla: you sure need a twitter :) rapidly updated one
20:46.18phhrob___: sure
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20:46.49borstehyeah so people wouldnt keep asking
20:46.52borstehguilty
20:47.06Microang_I'm uploading my build to megaupload now! :)
20:47.12rob___thanks phh, so the port should be very usable if everything goes well?
20:47.16Microang_eta 9mins
20:47.25phhrob___: yes
20:47.30phhrob___: as for rhodium.
20:47.33phhwhich still doesn't have sound
20:47.36phhnor 3D
20:47.54dan1j3lcotulla: i have found interesting article about porting android to real targets, you should check it out : http://wiki.kldp.org/wiki.php/AndroidPortingOnRealTarget
20:48.36HD2Userthanks to linda file manager i've got landscape homescreen etc.. looks nice :P
20:48.39DomZah already read it very interesting, also for a noob like me !
20:48.46rob___Can  we expect it to run similar performance wise to devices with the same SOC, for example nexus and desire (considering drivers are function, Just raw performance)
20:49.02rob___thank you for the answers phh, i appreaciate it very much
20:49.16TheOtherDudeMicroang_ is this a sense build you are uploading?
20:49.19phhrob___: you can expect better ;)
20:49.30phh(like overclocking that was available for wince devices before android ones :D)
20:49.45Microang_HD2User what do you mean landscape home screen?
20:49.56Microang_yep
20:50.03Microang_it's the sense build
20:50.05TheOtherDudeThe whole thing?
20:50.13HD2User;d
20:50.26Cotullaphh u have problems with DMOV on rhodium?
20:50.44phhCotulla: no
20:50.47Microang_yeah my internet connection isn't super fast and the whole thing only takes up like 30mb more when zipped so it's easier! :)
20:50.48phhjust ADSP and 3D
20:50.56Cotulla*had?
20:51.02phhCotulla: not either
20:51.05Cotullahm
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20:51.21Cotullacan u point to ur DMOV msm7k file?
20:51.45HD2User:D
20:51.49Microang_omg the eta has gone up to 50mins :O, uploading at about 60kbps
20:51.52phhit works so good that I haven't even read that code /o\
20:52.02Microang_will work on the gsm version now :)
20:52.06Cotullaheh
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20:52.20CotullaI don't get ready state
20:52.31HD2Userwow ^^ great
20:52.38Cotullaon BT DMOV
20:52.42phhCotulla: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.27/arch/arm/mach-msm/dma.c
20:52.44phhBT DMOV ?
20:53.00Cotullayes
20:53.05rob___ah this will be so cool if all goes to plan, I am actually excited, Would love to help but fear would get in the way more then anything. Keep up the good work though dev's, will try and donate if any money comes my way.
20:53.05CotullaDMOV for UARTHS
20:53.05phhBT != bluetooth ?
20:53.08phhah ok.
20:53.11Cotulla==
20:53.12phhcall it uart hs dmov :p
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20:53.39Cotullasame file
20:53.41phhwe had problems with clocks on uart hs
20:53.41DomZCotulla: did you see the dan1j3l link, doesn't helpful ? there is some remarks on fb implementation
20:53.43Cotullaso I don't get DMOV_STATUS_CMD_PTR_RDY
20:53.58Cotullayes, I saw it 3 day before
20:54.04DomZok
20:54.07phhbut no dma problem at all
20:54.44YosefCotulla: òû ïî÷èíèë touch  â ubuntu ?
20:55.03akoma1syosed: use utf-8 :P
20:55.08akoma1syosef*
20:55.32borstehi see oull+elee
20:55.33borstehlol
20:55.49Cotullaíåò.
20:55.59akoma1sI thought he uses mIRC at first, it's kvirc though...
20:56.07Cotullalol\
20:56.17Cotullait's just another language
20:56.29akoma1syeah, wrong encoding though :)
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20:58.08Yosefsorry...Cotulla: did you fixed 0,0 screen in Ubuntu?
20:58.16DomZnot wring different than us :)
20:58.21DomZwrong*
20:58.23Microang_Removed copybits.msm7.so from gsm version, will upload after sense build! :)
20:58.32Microang_msm7k
20:58.52CotullaYosef, no yet
20:59.02Jiggswhat does the gsm version do that the sense doesnt btw?
20:59.03akoma1sit's 2010, only asians have (minor) reasons not to use unicode
20:59.10borstehJiggs; gsm
20:59.20akoma1scyrillic is well supported nowadays
20:59.23akoma1sor so I hear :P
20:59.33Microang_has gsm working, can text and call, but you can't talk cause there's no speaker or mic!
20:59.47Jiggsoh, thats pretty cool
20:59.49borstehdata connection works or neg
20:59.55Microang_I'll test data but probs won't work
20:59.56borstehim guessin not
21:00.08borstehill test it rteeal  quick
21:00.18LokisSwordddata not working here
21:00.25LokisSworddapn and everything is correct
21:00.32Cotullaphh, u know how to reset QDSP?
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21:03.44Microang_cotulla do you have any idea why multi touch isn't working?
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21:04.59Cotullamaybe wrong types of second coordinat
21:05.01Cotullae
21:05.33YosefMicroang_: where is youre link :)
21:06.31Microang_sorry it's still uploading
21:06.45Microang_anyone know how to ask android to connet to data?
21:06.51Microang_*connect
21:07.05Microang_eta 40mins on the download
21:07.19TheOtherDude40Min!?!?!/  Dialup?
21:07.34TheOtherDudeSoupcans with string attached?
21:07.41Magnusrinon-7z : p
21:07.44Magnusrii guess
21:08.07Microang_no cable 10mbps, but in th uk we have only 512kbps upload so this = 60kpbs actual speed
21:08.17HD2Usersame as me
21:08.18HD2User:P
21:08.34Microang_virgin media?
21:08.39HD2Useryeap :D
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21:09.23TheOtherDudeWOOF!
21:09.26dyatell[rus]|2ooh kvirc -)
21:09.31Microang_lol, it is the best round here but upload in the uk is shit, unless you have a business line like at collage where they have 100mbps download and 50mbps upload! :D
21:09.33DomZcottula : audio->out_needed = 0; ??? http://www.kerneltrap.com/mailarchive/git-commits-head/2009/9/16/6055
21:09.35Magnusrii upload stuff at campus XD 40 000 kb/s ftw XD
21:09.53Cotullano it won't help
21:10.09Cotullaseems I need clear up after CE
21:10.20Microang_so cotulla how do I get android to try and connect to data?
21:10.49CotullaI don't know....it's not primary task
21:10.49Jiggsopening the browser should do it?
21:11.06CotullaI think it must be done at the end of porting...
21:11.11Microang_doesn't work then can't get anywhere in browser
21:11.15Microang_:( oh well
21:11.16Cotullabecause Android too like to eat data
21:11.34Microang_does data work for you cotulla?
21:11.59Cotullano
21:12.09Cotullaeven cmd not working. I didn't tried.
21:12.14CotullaI have other tasks now...
21:12.44Microang_ok keep up the good work! Any breakthroughs yet cotulla?
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21:13.14Rediok, another noob question, why on a git branch -a after clone from linuxtogo do i see only remotes/origin/htc-qsd8k-2.6.29 and not remotes/origin/htc-qsd8k-2.6.32?
21:13.43Redicotulla; you mean you've tried adding in default.txt? app.name, etc?
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21:14.11HD2Userokay, im going sleep, Microang_ if you finish uploading, paste these links here :P, thanks for it ^^, oks, cya :D
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21:14.16zoran123456Cotulla how old are you if you don't mind ... ?
21:14.34DomZguys can you let Cotulla working please :)
21:14.42darkstonei dont know if its just me
21:14.46Microang_25mins left on the upload! :)
21:14.49darkstonebut to prevent the clock running too fast
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21:15.04darkstoneinsert usb cable right after the camera led flases
21:15.16darkstonei never get turbo mode now
21:15.16darkstoneD:?
21:15.28Rediheh, nice hack darkstone :P
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21:15.36borstehzoran123456; asked that and he said "im young"
21:15.37borsteh:P
21:15.43darkstoneanyway
21:15.44TheOtherDudeTurbo mode?
21:15.49darkstonewill be updating the sense build
21:15.58zoran123456he must be on Mensa or something
21:15.59darkstonewith one that shouldnt corrupt as easily
21:15.59borstehanyone using windows 7 ult and got adb working
21:16.01nineX_been keeping up with the netripper log, and honestly you guys are annoying
21:16.06nineX_just let him work
21:16.07darkstonegotta love squashfsv4
21:16.08darkstonexD
21:16.18zoran123456i don't know what food they eat in Russia but ... :-)))
21:16.35nineX_you're slowing the process
21:16.59dyatell[rus]|2zoran123456: borsh and pelemeni etc
21:17.00darkstonenineX_: slowing who down?
21:17.04Microang_what you going to do to it darkstone, I'm already uploading it after I fixed it by deleting the copybits.msm7k.so?
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21:17.16zoran123456ok, nighty night everyone ... will not disturb any more. Bye bye
21:17.18nineX_quit highlighting him and maybe he might get some things done without having to check irc only to see read these kids bitching
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21:17.39nineX_darkstone: Cotulla (gawd i hate myself now for highlighting him without purpose)
21:17.43darkstonexD
21:17.57rob___micro, are you uploading just the .img file or the whole shabang
21:18.04darkstonehe probably has highlight disabled
21:18.10darkstonealso
21:18.13Cotullahow highlight something?
21:18.14dyatell[rus]|2Microang_:  whrer is link if you uplod file?
21:18.17nineX_prolly does
21:18.19darkstoneMicroang_: keep uploading yours
21:18.20MagnusrixD
21:18.25darkstonemines if just a minor change
21:18.29nineX_but i feel bad for him because its nothing but whining in here
21:18.30darkstonemines is a*
21:18.31Microang_whole shabang cause of my slow connection I don't wanna upload twice and should be easier for noobs
21:18.40rob___nice one, good idea :)
21:18.51nineX_like 5% of the discussion in here is constructive
21:18.55Microang_hold on another 20mins, thats megauploads eta! :D
21:19.08darkstoneuploading updated sense pack
21:19.12darkstoneeta 15 mins
21:19.16nineX_other 95% is just "why isnt gsm fixed" and "build the sound drivers now"
21:19.28BobVilanineX, i think you've got your point across. now you're just diluting that 5% that is worth reading.
21:19.33rob___looool
21:19.37TheOtherDudeha.
21:19.41darkstonei wouldnt bother redownloading it if you're
21:19.43darkstonewhat
21:19.44darkstonethe fuck
21:19.44Cotulla<b>test</b>
21:19.46darkstoneTHE FUCK
21:19.49darkstonei just got a issed call
21:19.52darkstonemissed call
21:19.53darkstoneon android
21:19.57darkstonewith no RADIO
21:19.57darkstone:|
21:19.58Cotulla[b]test[/b]
21:20.02rob___Phaha
21:20.08Rediand no sim? :P
21:20.17rob___did a number display
21:20.17darkstonesim is inserted
21:20.19darkstonebut wtf
21:20.19Rediits the DEVIL!
21:20.27darkstoneim getting a call O_O
21:20.30Microang_do you have the number?
21:20.33darkstoneyes
21:20.36darkstoneits my brother
21:20.39rob___o how weird
21:20.50Microang_wtf call it from your home phone to test it again!
21:20.52Redianswer it with BSOD
21:21.20rob___what build you running
21:21.21darkstoneholy
21:21.22darkstoneshit.
21:21.24darkstoneit works
21:21.28Redior, change your voicemail; "sorry. i cant answer the phone right now, because i have BSOD"
21:21.28darkstoneim ringing my own phone
21:21.32darkstone:|
21:21.32darkstoneguys
21:21.34darkstoneim serious
21:21.37darkstonesense build
21:21.38Microang_try dialing out!
21:21.38borstehmic works?
21:21.42rob___what build you running dark?
21:21.43r3d64r:) awesome
21:21.44borstehor cant hear?
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21:21.55darkstonehttp://gamesquare.co.uk/
21:21.59darkstonedownload this build in 15 mins
21:22.01darkstonethe run
21:22.04darkstonethen call your phone
21:22.09darkstoneyour hd2
21:22.09rob___that build includes gsm dude
21:22.10darkstone:|
21:22.12rob___lol
21:22.16TheOtherDudeSo it rings?
21:22.19darkstonedude, i uploaded that build
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21:22.27darkstonetheres no signal in the signal bar
21:22.27Microang_is that the minor fix?
21:22.27Redidarkstone; but no sound though so not that great :P
21:22.28darkstonewtf is this
21:22.39rob___:S that is not possible
21:22.43darkstonetry it!
21:22.45TheOtherDudeI think hes trolling us.
21:22.49darkstonetry it! <
21:22.55TheOtherDudeDONT FEED THE TROLL!!!!!
21:23.04darkstoneargh
21:23.06darkstoneim at work
21:23.08rob___lol ill test
21:23.10darkstonei would take a pic
21:23.14Jiggs_hd2 froyo on the forums now
21:23.15Yosefi deleted it and no more bluescreen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:24.20Rediyosef, perhaps a little more info that just that?
21:24.28Redidid you delete and recompile? what build? etc
21:24.55rob___darkstone, is it stock from url (i downloaded earlier today)
21:24.59rob___or modified
21:25.00darkstoneyes
21:25.03darkstonetry this
21:25.13r3d64rsweet downloading it now!
21:25.24TheOtherDudetry what!?!?!
21:25.48darkstoneok
21:25.50darkstonelet me explain
21:25.59darkstonemy build that i uploaded is the sense build
21:26.04darkstoneit has no signal
21:26.10darkstoneaeroplane mode
21:26.11darkstoneno gsm
21:26.14darkstoneand some how
21:26.19darkstoneim able to ring my hd2
21:26.26TheOtherDudeStrange.
21:26.28darkstoneand the calling screen shows up
21:26.29silent585i got a phone call while testing your build
21:26.34jinjabred_manweird!
21:26.38darkstone^!
21:26.38r3d64rmagic! I tell U
21:26.38Redidoes it not crash the phone?
21:26.38Microang_try texting darkstone
21:26.39TheOtherDudeIs that the one thats in the second post?
21:26.55chris5932anyone knows how to get root access on ubuntu? xD
21:27.21nineX_anyone tried this 2.2 build thats on the forum thread?
21:27.22jinjabred_manJiggs_:  you have a link on the froyo?
21:27.31silent585i was going through the settings and got a phone call that i didnt want to answer and then i got the missed call alert then a few minutes later if faded to black
21:27.34nineX_http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632&page=275
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21:27.47Jiggshttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=76Q1VSRR i have not tried it. its from xda forum
21:28.06jinjabred_manTY
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21:28.25PrinzVonZamundahey guys
21:28.47Yosefteke http://www.4shared.com/file/149073212/86480887/comlindaandnylindamanager.html explorer , delet it  and reboot and... i had bluecreen after 20 min...i don't touched sreen 5 mins
21:30.26Microang_is your build fixed darkstone had copybits removed)?
21:31.03darkstoneno
21:31.05darkstonenothing removed
21:31.12Yosefi'm use gsm build
21:31.21Microang_ok, that stops bsod!
21:31.36PrinzVonZamundahey can anyone provide link to the most stable android package?? read the last 2 days every line but have to go to bed :(
21:32.07darkstone5 mins eta till updated build
21:32.10Yosefand don't install from sd... move it to phone
21:32.24Microang_hold on a few mins my fixed sense build I'm uploading is very stable! :)
21:32.31Dexwhats in the updated  build?
21:32.44dyatell[rus]|2Microang_: waiting)
21:32.56darkstoneno corruption of FS after system crash
21:33.02darkstonebetter performance on home screen
21:33.07PrinzVonZamundaleo 3.02 ROM, HSPL 3, 2.12 Radio, bsod at unlock and now at booting process..
21:33.31Yosefi installed some games...going to check
21:34.16TheOtherDudeSo both Darkstone and Microang_ are uploading new builds?
21:34.22rob___Microang_: give us a shout as soon as it uploads
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21:34.29manusfreedom_hi
21:34.34PrinzVonZamundahey
21:34.38rob___darkstone, what is modified from your last build
21:34.43Jiggsi can confirm that deleting that file reduces bsods, and allows recovery from bsods when they do occur. much more usable
21:34.47Microang_ok about 10 more mins
21:35.01darkstone[22:32:53] <darkstone> no corruption of FS after system crash
21:35.01darkstone[22:32:59] <darkstone> better performance on home screen
21:35.06darkstone@rob___
21:36.10PrinzVonZamundayeah maybe i can get to the homescreen with your builds ;)
21:36.10TheOtherDude<TheOtherDude> So both Darkstone and Microang_ are uploading new builds?
21:36.19PrinzVonZamundayeah
21:36.27darkstoneD:
21:36.32rob___thanks, but..I mean what did you change it terms of development, micro is uploading a copy of your build from this morning with the bs file deleted.. (As far as i can tell)
21:36.34PrinzVonZamundagive it 2 me bna
21:36.35radiance_wich one is more stable ?
21:36.42PrinzVonZamunda50:50
21:36.48TheOtherDudeYea dude.  Convince us!!!
21:36.49PrinzVonZamundaone or the other
21:36.51TheOtherDudeDuke it out!!!
21:36.55darkstonerob___: nothing
21:37.10darkstonejust some options changed
21:37.19darkstonebut i noticed better performance
21:37.21TheOtherDudeDoes it have that file deleted?
21:37.25rob___did you too remove the bsod file cot suggested?
21:37.26darkstoneno it does not
21:37.35rob___ah okay
21:37.40PrinzVonZamundawtf is bsod file?
21:37.57PrinzVonZamundano bsod after deleting??
21:38.09Microang_mine has the file removed and a new file manager and is now quite stable but no calls are working unlike darkstones one which has calls but no fix.
21:38.25mhandcant you just blacklist it
21:38.31PrinzVonZamundaah ok
21:38.37darkstonenew build is up
21:38.43Microang_I'll patch darkstones one and upload it as 7zip after
21:38.48darkstonevisit http://gamesquare.co.uk/
21:38.57darkstoneMicroang_: thanks :)
21:39.18rob___ty dark, nice speeds btw
21:39.28rob___comig down at 500k +
21:39.37Microang_downloading your now darkstone
21:40.02nineX_darkstone, do you have a changelog?
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21:40.50TheOtherDudeThats the same one I downloaded earlier!?!?!?!
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21:40.55rob___nine, no packaged are changed, just configuration and settings
21:41.18Arash18khi everyone
21:41.34darkstonehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7031033&postcount=2756
21:41.39dan1j3lhi
21:41.43Dexdoes gsm work in that build?
21:41.55nineX_IS that the same file as the one from this morning?
21:41.56darkstoneright
21:42.00darkstoneno
21:42.02darkstonedifferent file
21:42.06nineX_oh ok
21:42.09darkstoneok, im heading off home atm
21:42.10darkstonebbl
21:42.16darkstonelet me know your experience
21:42.17nineX_increment with build numbers imo
21:42.21mhandcant you just link straight to the file
21:42.27mhanddo you really need to $0.01 from adsense
21:42.36Yosefi have error on game BMsnow...
21:42.38darkstonemhand: every little helps :)
21:42.38rob___dude, dont be rude...
21:42.56dan1j3lthis channel became spamed with non-dev talks...
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21:43.11LokisSwordballs, should have made my wubi image bigger >< full after installing jdk, and toolchain
21:43.29maxldhey guys, im still at work, any updates?
21:43.53akoma1slet's make a #htc-linux-chat channel or something
21:44.22slayernswould be great to clean up here
21:44.25akoma1sall this chatter makes it way more difficult for everyone to track the progress
21:44.28LokisSwordI think thats a very good idea
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21:44.36slayernssomeone should take the lead
21:44.43LokisSworddevoice anyone other than devs
21:44.51mhandphh: is diam/raph development "finished"?
21:44.53nineX_#htc-linux-chat
21:45.02akoma1sI'm reading hours and hours of chatter every day and I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels they don't have to
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21:45.25slayernschatter pls to #htc-linux-chat
21:45.29dan1j3li believe that channel topic is  htc-linux, not Android support channel
21:45.47Arash18kand they switched channel just like that :p
21:45.52slayernsyes, when i first came here and asked about android, people were almost killing me :)
21:46.03dan1j3lso please keep noise level low
21:46.07akoma1ssomeone please make a note in the topic
21:46.16akoma1sabout #htc-linux-chat
21:46.18slayernsmaybe a mod should ban:)
21:46.29dan1j3lit's already in topic
21:46.36dan1j3lbut no one cares
21:47.17dan1j3laaaahhhh... it's so silent now... finally... :d
21:47.33slayerns%B bold
21:47.43Microang_well done dan! Peace at last! XD
21:47.45PrinzVonZamundai think we all should calm down and wait till some body comes with a fully working android.. it cant be that far..
21:48.11keule1234588Has anybody noticed some strange behaviour of CHT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7031046&postcount=2757, may not be important for development but it seems that, at least for me, something inside WM is affected by Haret, which, as far as i know, shoudn't happen
21:48.22rob___micro, got darks build, just booting, you got link yet
21:48.54PrinzVonZamundayy
21:49.11Microang_few more secs and it'll be up! Finally!
21:49.23PrinzVonZamundayeah thanks man
21:49.46PrinzVonZamundalil oftopic: can anyone provide me with a good youporn alternative
21:49.53Arash18kcotulla, did you removed netripper vsync hack?
21:50.08akoma1sPrinzVonZamunda: offtopic goes to #htc-linux-chat
21:50.36rob___looks like i may have fast timing problems with build
21:50.54Microang_Have fun here's the patched sense build http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F46P2M07
21:51.20dyatell[rus]|2Microang_: thanx
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21:51.47slayernsguys: to htc-linux-chat please
21:51.52slayernsguys: to #htc-linux-chat please
21:52.52keule1234588anybody?
21:53.36chris5932keule1234588 its not important now
21:53.51Microang_patched for no bsod (and slide to unlock XD) gsm enabled XDANDROID is uploading now eta 15mins! At least this ones small!
21:54.20akoma1skeule1234588: join #htc-linux-chat please
21:55.47Microang_Now patching new sense build with gsm! :D
21:56.27radiance_thank ;)
21:56.38keule1234588chris5932: okay, keule1234588: thought this was for support, I dont need support with this, just found this strange and very unexpected for some code which was stated to not interfere with WM but obviously does
21:57.05keule1234588(to state clear: I thought "#htc-linux-chat" was for support,...)
21:58.38rob___night need sleep, good luck,
21:58.54Microang_good night
21:59.04keule1234588second part was to akoma1s but nevermind, if its not important, then i will trust in this and leave you guy to your work
21:59.22dan1j3lguys even if you continue ranting android won't get ported by itself, so PLEASE stop ranting and asking dumb questions...
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21:59.27akoma1skeule1234588: nothing personal mate: let's just keep this channel for the kernel porters' communication
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22:00.10Microang_are you talking to me akomals?
22:00.47akoma1sthat went to keule1234588 in fact :)
22:00.49keule1234588amoka1s: I didn't took it personal but i thought some kernel interaction with WM should be mentioned ;)
22:01.10ali1234i don't really think that is possible... what is CHT anyway?
22:01.28akoma1scookie's home tab, a WM app
22:01.38ali1234which does what?
22:01.39Microang_ok thanks, I'm just patching builds not blabbing or kernel developing! XD
22:01.44akoma1sthat's why I said it probably belonged to the other channel
22:01.51mhand99% chance its a coincidence
22:02.00chris5932there is no kernel interaction with wm..
22:02.19ali1234i didn't think there was even a driver for the built in FFS
22:02.24chris5932please dont post things if you dont have a clue at all :-/ (no offence)
22:02.30keule1234588ali1234: cookies home tab, its reproducable for me even after hard reset (tested this out a minute ago^^)
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22:03.08Microang_wtf this is an android / linux channel not wm!
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22:03.54mhandcalm down dorks it might have been relevant
22:04.01keule1234588yes i know: the strange behaviour appears after booting into android^^
22:04.08akoma1sjoin #htc-linux-chat, then we can talk more about it
22:04.19mhandnobody wants to join your crappy channel, stop spamming it
22:04.43chris5932if you talk here you spam the locks
22:05.16chris593292% of everything written the past day is just unimportant stuff
22:05.19akoma1sI think you misunderstood my intentions, I'm not even an op on the other channel, feel free to keep flooding here
22:05.28dan1j3land here goes noise again....
22:06.37slayernsdan1j3l: any improvements on gsm?
22:07.00dan1j3lstill working on it...  :)
22:07.43Microang_dan hear that, silence again
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22:07.53dan1j3l:p
22:08.20mhandshut up Microang_ the developers wont be able to do anuything if you keep typing!!!!!!
22:08.25slayernsbetter to follows from logs, join when you feel yourself necessary
22:08.27slayernsbb
22:09.06dan1j3lslayerns: agreed !!!!
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22:10.53radiance_<PROTECTED>
22:11.09Mux1989haha i got screen upside Down by opening the Camera app^^
22:11.49Microang_:( I'm only trying to help by patching builds. Here is a patched for no bsod (and slide to unlock XD) gsm enabled XDANDROID. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z2KYV9OF
22:13.07radiance_Microang_:  you're right. everyone is boring me about noise.
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22:13.32Microang_unlike some noise makers I'm contributing so I'll shut up now unless I have news so don't flame me!
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22:15.25mhandshut up Microang_ the developers wont be able to do anuything if you keep typing!!!!!!
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22:15.36radiance_Microang_:  thank for your release
22:16.15Dexjust arrived. link to Microang release?
22:17.07Microang_at least someone thanks me, you shut up yourself mhand cause your stopping them by flaming too! It's http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z2KYV9OF for XDANDROID GSM and http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F46P2M07 for sense build
22:20.02MiB-sMicroang_ just move your nice releases to the #htc-linux-chat
22:20.20Microang_why?
22:20.25mhand#htc-android-spammers-and-retards
22:20.36MiB-sthey are not development related
22:21.01akoma1sthe intention is to have rom testers and random chat in #htc-linux-chat
22:21.27mhandwhos intention
22:21.30silent585which of the 2 is more stable
22:22.04LokisSwordMaybe the better approach to this would be to stop acknowledging the random spam all together, maybe that would encourage people to join the other channel.
22:22.28Microang_the reason I put them in this channel is because it is the one most people check and other channels are packed with spammers. It sort of is development in a way as I'm making them more usable.
22:22.53mhandso you spam in the channel that isnt packed with spammers
22:22.55mhandgood logic
22:22.57akoma1syou can use the topic on the other channel to make the URLs sticky
22:23.00radiance_I don't beleave what's happen here, Microang_  work for us and everyone said to him shud up. O_o
22:23.25mhandhe just zips up random crap other people make and spams about it
22:23.43LokisSwordHopefully there are those who understand *enough* to get things working - who can then take the time to answer the questions, but disabling a few settings and cutting and pasting files between builds is *NOT* development.
22:24.04akoma1smhand: are you attacking Microang_ too now?
22:24.19Microang_No I don't I've modified the system so it won't bsod and zipped it up so people can just unzip and it works
22:24.33radiance_it's a dev work
22:24.47radiance_so he can post he's release here
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22:24.58slayernsi felt necessary to say this
22:25.02slayernsit is not a DEV work
22:25.19ali1234keule1234588: have you tried booting just a kernel without any userspace image?
22:25.51LokisSwordMicroang_, people would be far better served learning to install linux, mount the image file and do the work themselves - atleast they would be learning something. Also - have to agree with slayerns.
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22:26.33mhandno Microang_ you deleted a file and zipped it up again lol
22:26.57akoma1sthere are too kinds of "development" taking place here, kernel porting and house-keeping aka rom preparing
22:27.08akoma1sno need to belittle anyone
22:27.38akoma1slet's use this channel for the kernel porting and the other channel for the rom development
22:28.10Microang_I don't believe it is dev work but I am doing work and not spamming. How do you think I feel this is my first time on the channel, a lot of people were having problems fixing the builds so I've been helping out. I've been thanked many times and now since some people have logged on I really feel hurt cause all I try and do is help so people won't spam asking how'd you do this cause I already did it!
22:28.39mhandwhy are you telling people to shut up and what to talk about if its your first time here
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22:29.03slayernsno one says you to stop
22:29.11Microang_cause I have followed the logs till I though I could contribute something cause I don't wanna spam
22:29.13slayernsjust do it on #htc-linux-chat
22:29.19dan1j3lofftopic...
22:29.23mhandslayerns: have you been sitting f5'ing the log website
22:29.24mhandhaha
22:29.29TheOtherDudeMicro, your build just bsod'd on me.
22:29.32slayerns:D
22:29.39slayernsno auto refresh in 30 sec
22:29.40radiance_2h befor everyone was happy to have Microang_  release. Now it's Ridiculous.
22:29.41slayernsbb
22:29.49slayernsradiance_: please.....
22:29.57mhandno like 3 noobs were happy to have it
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22:31.03dan1j3lchildren calm down, everyone will get lollipop... :p
22:31.08shu8isry to bother guys... any news on bsod or shall i read logs? :S
22:31.10akoma1sok, flamefest inc apparently
22:31.16dan1j3llogs
22:31.24ali1234what we have here is a classic example of the tinkerer's curse
22:31.56LokisSwordGn all. I think it's best to just state - this is the htc-linux channel, unless you are actively developing the kernel, drivers, etc use a different channel. Allow the devs the space they need. Watch, learn and then spam like crazy about your new skills in #htc-linux-chat
22:34.15nineX_Microang_: still getting bsods
22:35.30Microang_dan1j3l I don't know if it's welcome by some but to fix bsod you need a file manager like Linda File Manager go to my phone/system/lib/hw/ and delete the copybits.msm7k.so, it's a temp fix acortding to cotulla and isn't 100% but does a great job reducing it.
22:35.49mhandMicroang_: thanks for your useful contribution to kernel development
22:36.32dan1j3li already fixed that yesterday...
22:37.06dan1j3land it's not a fix, it's just a workaround...
22:38.23nineX_#htc-linux-chat
22:39.02Microang_sorry I didn't know you already fixed it cause in your gsm release it wasn't fixed. I know it's a workaround but cotulla was working on it earlier I believe. Yes I'll shut up now ninex_ but won't leave just watch
22:39.22nineX_no i'm not telling you to shut up
22:39.27nineX_i'm inviting you
22:39.35nineX_btw, your build is actually pretty decent
22:39.40nineX_using it now
22:39.46Microang_thanks
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22:39.55nineX_i tried calling my phone though and never got the call
22:39.56mhandMicroang_: please leave
22:40.00darkstoneeh
22:40.09darkstonewhy is everyone ganging up on Microang_?
22:40.16darkstoneleave him be
22:40.21darkstoneanyway
22:40.29darkstone#htc-linux-chat
22:40.33darkstonetalk there not here
22:41.10Microang_well acording to some since your only building builds like me you should talk there not here also. :(
22:41.26darkstoneim already there
22:41.42mhandpls both of u chat there
22:41.46Microang_ok, I'm just watching here now
22:41.48mhandvery annoying
22:41.57darkstonemhand: thank you for your useful insight
22:42.03darkstoneits really helped the community
22:42.05darkstonewell done.
22:42.11TheOtherDudeYour the only annoying one mhand
22:42.20mhanddarkstone: should i put it in a zip file and upload it on my website  lol
22:42.33Microang_btw what kernel developing are you doing mhand? ;)
22:42.40akoma1sbet he's feeling all warm inside now, don't bother feeding the troll guys
22:42.53mhandMicroang_: u wudnt understand
22:43.00TheOtherDudeHe aint doing shit.
22:43.06darkstonedudes a troll
22:43.07Microang_exactly
22:43.09darkstoneignore
22:43.21nineX_Microang_: do you have a changelog for your build?
22:43.26darkstoneMicroang_: got a link to your build? i'd like to try it out
22:43.31TheOtherDudeHe probably has a Moto Razr.
22:44.09Microang_lol theotherdude, the links are http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z2KYV9OF  for XDANDROID GSM and http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F46P2M07  for sense build
22:44.59akoma1scan some Op pm me please, thanks
22:45.24TheOtherDudeI dont think theres any ops in this room?
22:45.27mhandakoma1s: why do u need an Op lol
22:45.34akoma1sto update the topic
22:45.45mhandit already says "no android support"
22:45.59mhandyet Microang_ darkstone etc insist on spamming their android stuff here
22:46.25Microang_and you won't shut up even though your just spamming too
22:46.35mhandNO U SHUT UP
22:46.40mhandlol go to bed kid
22:46.45TheOtherDudeFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!
22:46.59akoma1sI see it more as end-user testing, not as android support
22:47.03radiance_mhand: men you are crazy
22:47.05darkstonemhand: congratulations, no android support means that developers wont help us troubleshoot android
22:47.06darkstoneyou tell me
22:47.09darkstonein any single log
22:47.11DiscoLives4everLets just all agree that I'm the real culprit here who needs to shut up
22:47.15shu8iguys
22:47.17darkstonedo you see me asking any developer for help?
22:47.18darkstonedo you?
22:47.20darkstoneanyway
22:47.27shu8ijust be mature and igrone the troll plz? ;)
22:47.30darkstonethis is stupid :)
22:47.35darkstoneshrugs
22:47.43darkstonei'll keep an eye on here
22:47.51darkstonebut i'll be chatting on #htc-linux-chat
22:48.33mhand#htc-linux-zipped-build-with-a-deleted-file-megaupload-pls-donate
22:48.49fakkeri think the annoyance is the posting of those megaupload links all the time - the logs are available to people who have missed anything so far, that's all i can see every so often... each to their own tho eh eh
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22:50.16iownzrazzzxgood (your time of the day here)
22:51.49iownzrazzzxjust joining to check on the most xlent dev done by mhand, I hope your managing to get those irq's under control with your awesome trolling powas. Keep up the most xlent work up, that and the trolling.
22:51.59iownzrazzzxback to lurking
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23:05.04on1ydabesthey guys
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23:20.53Linuzzdarkstone ? do you have the sourcecode for desire htc sense?
23:21.07darkstoneno, sorry
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23:22.22Linuzzoh ok :0)
23:24.35tmzt_mhand: pretty much anything is okay here, I think dcordes added that to discourage support requests for specific builds, but more of those devs are in here now so it's fine
23:24.54tmzt_this channel is also logged and that can be really helpful, if you move to -chat we lose valuable information
23:25.29ali1234tmzt_: do you remember that issue where the touchscreen is detected as a touchpad in xorg?
23:25.42ali1234some people were having a similar problem the other day...
23:25.44tmzt_yeah, the new support should fix that
23:25.53tmzt_or change the driver from evdev to tslib
23:26.01ali1234ah cool
23:26.13tmzt_there's way too much logic in udev, I finally found were it decides that
23:26.35Linuzzchanging it to software rendering dosent solve the problem
23:29.48ali1234tmzt_: have you looked at the meego stuff? any opinion on it?
23:30.02ali1234(i mean the handheld stuff released yesterday)
23:30.22tmzt_ha, just asked mickeyl about that :)
23:34.59akoma1stmzt_: the intention was to lower the noise in here by moving all the "end users" to the other channel. this was, the kernel porters could get "distilled" information from the guys that prepare the "builds". Also, there's no reason netripper can't log the other channel as well
23:35.25akoma1sthis way*
23:36.06tmzt_ah, we can ask him about that
23:36.41akoma1syeah, hopefully he comes back soon, so he can update the topic as well
23:37.13nineX_hi
23:37.30akoma1sbtw, no matter what your role is, you should join the other channel as well
23:37.47cookiesownsAnyone happen to know why when the kernal timers are running faster, it actually seems stable? At least for me.
23:39.08ali1234race conditions?
23:39.36nineX_hmmm so is anyone else freezing up on phone button presses?
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23:41.45cookiesownsNot me, nine..
23:42.38nineX_nvm, disable button sounds
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23:46.42dan1j3lgoing sleep now. bb
23:47.12RedRaiderbb
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23:47.31DomZakoma1s: A dedicated chan for devs would be great, so kindly ban us from this one, I think if we only have the logs I'm fine with that and I think it's a good idea ! too many noob are now there (I'm part of them) and I think now it's hard for devs to have discussions !
23:48.13nineX_DomZ: thats actually a really great idea
23:48.21nineX_i forgot about the logs
23:48.27DomZnow going to sleep. bb
23:48.36DomZ(if I can) :p
23:48.48nineX_DomZ: #htc-linux-chat
23:48.58DomZok thanks
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23:58.46akoma1sDomZ: waiting on NetRipper for the next steps ;)
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23:59.40tmzt_dcordes: do we have a facebook page for HTCLinux?
23:59.57NeoFluxno no no

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