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| 02:32.01 | JohnnyZ | sprint touch pro 2..phone and data work fine in windows mobile 6.5..when i run android..there is no service. i go to network connections - setup networks and it says cant connect to network through sim card?? |
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| 13:40.09 | mickey_office | yo |
| 13:43.01 | E0x | android is usable in a htc touch pro ( raphael ) phone ? |
| 13:43.07 | E0x | i mean daily use ? |
| 13:47.32 | PSPdemon | i would say so |
| 13:47.49 | IncognitoMan | but then again i cannot be the judge of that |
| 13:47.57 | IncognitoMan | only you yourself :P |
| 13:50.30 | E0x | ok |
| 13:50.41 | E0x | IncognitoMan: i can not find a definitive howto |
| 13:51.01 | E0x | i mean i just find the XDA wiki howto but is not very clear of the steps |
| 13:51.21 | E0x | or what is the last build , etc |
| 13:52.02 | E0x | and is not clear if the android run from the SD car only |
| 13:52.03 | E0x | brb |
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| 18:30.00 | [acl] | Hey Captnoord. I have a quick question |
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| 18:32.06 | Captnoord | yo |
| 18:32.15 | Captnoord | ask |
| 18:32.36 | [acl] | im trying to understand clock-wince.c |
| 18:32.41 | [acl] | and this baffles me |
| 18:32.42 | [acl] | REG_OR( MSM_GRP_NS_REG, 0x800 ); |
| 18:32.42 | [acl] | REG_OR( MSM_GRP_NS_REG, 0x80 ); |
| 18:32.42 | [acl] | REG_OR( MSM_GRP_NS_REG, 0x200 ); |
| 18:32.49 | Captnoord | aahhh my stuff |
| 18:33.00 | Captnoord | don't try to understand that |
| 18:33.06 | Captnoord | I reverse engineered that |
| 18:33.19 | Captnoord | it does the power rail stuff |
| 18:33.24 | Captnoord | and the grp clock stuff |
| 18:33.26 | Captnoord | for 3d |
| 18:33.27 | [acl] | ok, so im trying to see how this can related to the Rhod |
| 18:33.40 | Captnoord | that I don't know |
| 18:34.01 | [acl] | thats fair. but the rhod pulls this info. Im trying to trace down the values that would hopeflly get the rhod working. |
| 18:34.17 | Captnoord | the clock dll of wince |
| 18:34.22 | Captnoord | will get you the info needed |
| 18:34.39 | [acl] | a8600080 | 00000a00 00000a8c 00000200 00000a21 is what i dumped on haret |
| 18:34.49 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 18:34.51 | Captnoord | that I don't know |
| 18:34.52 | Captnoord | dude |
| 18:34.52 | Captnoord | brb |
| 18:34.55 | Captnoord | need to take a shower |
| 18:35.00 | Captnoord | just got back from running |
| 18:35.09 | Captnoord | then i'll help ya |
| 18:35.10 | [acl] | nice to know u care about personal hygiene :-) |
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| 18:53.58 | Captnoord | lol [acl] you won't smell it |
| 18:53.59 | Captnoord | :P |
| 18:55.46 | Captnoord | [acl]: is this about 3d on rhod? |
| 18:57.03 | Captnoord | as it needs something extra I guess |
| 18:57.06 | Captnoord | what I don't know |
| 18:57.07 | [acl] | Captnoord: yep it is |
| 18:57.10 | Captnoord | I have looked at it |
| 18:57.13 | Captnoord | but I have to admit |
| 18:57.21 | Captnoord | can't test shit because I don't have a rhod |
| 18:57.31 | Captnoord | yes I can guess |
| 18:57.34 | [acl] | i get ya. I will be your eyes as long as you let me know what to do |
| 18:57.43 | Captnoord | that i don't know |
| 18:57.46 | Captnoord | I mean |
| 18:58.00 | Captnoord | the rhod grp rail stuff looks similar to the raph's one |
| 18:58.07 | Captnoord | and even the raph doesn't really need it |
| 18:58.25 | Captnoord | its only for making sure it gets anough power todo the 3d rendering |
| 18:58.32 | Captnoord | it would start without it |
| 18:58.57 | Captnoord | the trick on the raph was setting a field |
| 18:58.58 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 18:58.59 | Captnoord | imem |
| 18:59.01 | Captnoord | yea |
| 18:59.04 | Captnoord | to make it init |
| 18:59.34 | Captnoord | i'll load a couple of rhod dll's |
| 18:59.56 | [acl] | ive been reading alot of logs |
| 19:00.06 | [acl] | looks like you guys talked abotu alot of this but im not sure if anyone tried it |
| 19:00.13 | [acl] | im trying a bunch of crap |
| 19:00.31 | [acl] | even looked at dzo clock code for the vogue |
| 19:00.39 | [acl] | is see this stand out clk_regime_sec(GRP_RAIL_ON); |
| 19:01.22 | [acl] | unfortunately i dont think we know what value is this GRP_RAIL_ON is correct? i tried with whatever values i can think of. no luck tho. |
| 19:01.35 | Captnoord | main problem you have is that you don't know whats done under water |
| 19:01.37 | Captnoord | I mean |
| 19:01.51 | Captnoord | the 3d part can be custom enabled by some sbi function |
| 19:01.59 | Captnoord | called from out some obscure api call |
| 19:02.03 | Captnoord | or |
| 19:02.13 | Captnoord | it can be something extremely simple |
| 19:02.37 | Captnoord | you got ida? |
| 19:03.01 | [acl] | nope |
| 19:03.15 | [acl] | sounds like i will need it tho huh. |
| 19:03.18 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:03.19 | Captnoord | yea |
| 19:03.27 | Captnoord | nah |
| 19:03.33 | Captnoord | its how I do stuff |
| 19:03.39 | Captnoord | its not he only road to rome |
| 19:03.45 | [acl] | right now all ive been doing is making custom apps on wince and just tracing them |
| 19:03.55 | [acl] | really slow and painful process :-( |
| 19:04.04 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:04.05 | Captnoord | true |
| 19:04.55 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 19:05.06 | Captnoord | rhod's rail thingy is kinda similar to raph's |
| 19:05.31 | Captnoord | it might even be exactly the sam |
| 19:05.33 | Captnoord | same |
| 19:05.42 | Captnoord | as its only a couple of registers |
| 19:05.46 | Captnoord | which should be generic |
| 19:05.53 | [acl] | haha, then it should be working ..lol |
| 19:06.08 | Captnoord | I don't think so |
| 19:06.17 | Captnoord | when a 3d app wants to use hw |
| 19:06.22 | Captnoord | it loads the 3d dll |
| 19:06.31 | Captnoord | which loads the 2d ati driver |
| 19:06.46 | Captnoord | which is kinda confusing |
| 19:06.46 | [acl] | which one is the 2d driver? i dont think i made any apps with that |
| 19:06.50 | Captnoord | because of the name |
| 19:07.13 | Captnoord | nah |
| 19:07.15 | Captnoord | any 3d app |
| 19:07.37 | Captnoord | loads default_d3d.dll or something |
| 19:07.40 | Captnoord | but that dll uses |
| 19:07.40 | Captnoord | ahi2dati.dll |
| 19:07.54 | [acl] | yeah but thats what ive been loading. ahi2dati.dll |
| 19:08.11 | Captnoord | or |
| 19:08.18 | Captnoord | htc_d3dm.dll |
| 19:08.33 | Captnoord | the thing is |
| 19:08.41 | Captnoord | that the ahi2dati.dll |
| 19:08.44 | Captnoord | is so complex |
| 19:08.51 | Captnoord | that its hard to trace the workings |
| 19:09.11 | [acl] | i can imagine. must call so much crap inside. |
| 19:10.00 | Captnoord | lol the party gets bigger |
| 19:10.02 | [acl] | ok so lets say the driver calls on a function outside and it enables 3d. Why would android's driver act differently? |
| 19:10.10 | Captnoord | htc_d3dm.dll uses default_d3d.dll |
| 19:10.19 | Captnoord | because its android |
| 19:10.43 | Captnoord | thats the pitfall using disasmbly |
| 19:10.51 | Captnoord | you can't just reverse engineer it |
| 19:10.55 | Captnoord | and copy paste it |
| 19:10.59 | Captnoord | not always |
| 19:11.12 | Captnoord | its not a tool to make things work... or at least |
| 19:11.14 | Captnoord | not directly |
| 19:11.16 | Captnoord | tracing is |
| 19:11.20 | Captnoord | disasmbly is not |
| 19:11.31 | Captnoord | its only a view into the ways wince does things |
| 19:11.38 | Captnoord | and that you need to translate into linux |
| 19:11.39 | Captnoord | kinda |
| 19:11.56 | Captnoord | its not hard |
| 19:12.23 | Captnoord | its just that its a shitload of asm to read |
| 19:12.40 | [acl] | so right now we are forced to disassemble |
| 19:13.07 | Captnoord | I don't know |
| 19:13.13 | Captnoord | I mean reading the asm is my tool |
| 19:13.19 | Captnoord | I know cr2 did loads of shit |
| 19:13.26 | Captnoord | by just reading the haret logs |
| 19:13.36 | Captnoord | thats a lot faster to |
| 19:14.52 | [acl] | yeah haret is what i use |
| 19:15.13 | [acl] | how can we trace rpc calls in haret ? |
| 19:15.23 | Captnoord | phh knows how todo shit like that |
| 19:15.42 | Captnoord | waves at phh |
| 19:15.46 | Captnoord | he should be on |
| 19:15.47 | Captnoord | :P |
| 19:15.58 | phh | right. |
| 19:16.04 | phh | just dump SMD RPC area |
| 19:16.08 | phh | and guess. |
| 19:16.10 | [acl] | whats that on the rhod? |
| 19:16.11 | [acl] | lol |
| 19:16.22 | phh | check wiki ? :p |
| 19:16.44 | [acl] | wiki hates my cdma ass |
| 19:16.52 | phh | pfff |
| 19:19.02 | [acl] | I think cr2 mentioned the address somewhere. i think i remember a post about it. But it wasnt documented on the wiki |
| 19:22.12 | [acl] | found it : RPC is at a different location on topa/rhod (0x119b8): |
| 19:24.09 | [acl] | phh: ok, so i dump that and what should i be looking for? |
| 19:24.24 | phh | 30000000000xx |
| 19:24.37 | [acl] | sounds like good homework for tonight |
| 19:25.09 | [acl] | phh: i tried those rpc calls by the way on dzo code. Completely bombs out. wont boot. |
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| 19:34.50 | [acl] | fuck.. that address must be wrong. i get nothign.. bunch of 0s |
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| 20:42.03 | dcordes | bbl |
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| 21:46.46 | ToAsTcfh | phh: u around? |
| 21:56.35 | [acl] | i think its nap time for phh. i bored him to death earlier |
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| 22:29.10 | dcordes | hi |
| 22:29.24 | dcordes | [acl]: what's up with rhod400 3d ? any progress ? |
| 22:29.29 | tmzt | everybody's asleep :) |
| 22:29.40 | dcordes | lol stupid europeans |
| 22:30.21 | NetRipper | dcordes, you are european... |
| 22:30.21 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:30.54 | dcordes | hey there |
| 22:31.12 | NetRipper | hi |
| 22:31.14 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:31.55 | dcordes | an news? I can login to ltg |
| 22:32.02 | dcordes | s/an/any/ |
| 22:32.16 | NetRipper | login to ltg already worked |
| 22:32.32 | NetRipper | it's a permission problem on the commit.. some files/dirs in the haret.git/objects/ dir have the wrong permissions |
| 22:32.36 | NetRipper | i haven't checked today yet. |
| 22:32.49 | dcordes | ok I assumed it was the old login problem |
| 22:32.59 | NetRipper | ls -al /home/groups/haret.git/objects/ or something alike |
| 22:33.10 | dcordes | not saying git problem is new though |
| 22:33.52 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:33.56 | NetRipper | i just want to be able to push. |
| 22:34.48 | NetRipper | old version of git on there |
| 22:34.50 | NetRipper | :( |
| 22:35.46 | dcordes | maybe that is the problem. old git vs new gforge |
| 22:35.54 | NetRipper | who knows. |
| 22:36.01 | NetRipper | haven't had a response from florian yet |
| 22:39.25 | dcordes | speak of the devil. |
| 22:39.42 | NetRipper | yer. |
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| 22:47.28 | [acl] | dcordes:No progress. I feel like im more lost then ever now. Looks like everyone has tried almost everything. So its just a matter of getting creative now i suppose. |
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| 22:51.27 | [acl] | tonight i'll be tracing rpc calls trying to find clk_regime_sec_grp_rail_on. thats my latest task |
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| 22:55.55 | dcordes | NetRipper: we should pull in the newest android-msm-2.6.32 changes into htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 22:56.11 | NetRipper | sure if you wish |
| 22:56.49 | dcordes | I came to think of it when LeTama mentioned that some of their patches fixed the timer on leo |
| 22:57.17 | dcordes | maybe we pull and all problems are solved :) do you still have the command ? |
| 22:58.29 | NetRipper | errr |
| 22:58.34 | NetRipper | not handy |
| 22:59.00 | dcordes | I thought I put it somewhre but forgot. there's something on ml but not the full command |
| 22:59.23 | NetRipper | seems we never put the remote ref there properly |
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| 23:03.16 | dcordes | NetRipper: I don't understand |
| 23:03.28 | NetRipper | let me see |
| 23:03.51 | NetRipper | normally we'd have a remote ref to the remote git we pulled from so we can easily pull in changes |
| 23:05.40 | dcordes | I see |
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| 23:06.46 | NetRipper | my user doesn't have a local .profile or .bashrc, and /etc/profile has "umask 022" as last line, which results in 644 masks |
| 23:07.12 | NetRipper | or 755 for dirs |
| 23:07.50 | NetRipper | so changing that to umask 002 should fix it for the future, but it's a pretty global change then... otherwise you'd need to create ~/.profile for each user and add umask 002 in there |
| 23:08.31 | NetRipper | seems gforge users are not created using the /etc/skel/ directory |
| 23:08.59 | NetRipper | although it wouldn't change anything |
| 23:09.38 | NetRipper | but it would mean regular users get regular access, and users added the differnt way (the automatic way) get no profile, which is a way to distinct one user from the other |
| 23:12.20 | dcordes | git pull git://android.git.kernel.org/kernel/msm.git android-msm-2.6.32 |
| 23:12.50 | NetRipper | yea a remote ref is nicer |
| 23:12.51 | NetRipper | :P |
| 23:14.25 | dcordes | I wasn't saying remote ref is not nice lol |
| 23:14.31 | dcordes | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=6544e06788f9146eab485ec701cf663bfd96ea86 |
| 23:20.30 | NetRipper | oh you already merged it |
| 23:20.52 | NetRipper | explains my triple merge hehe |
| 23:21.15 | NetRipper | reverted that locally |
| 23:27.12 | randomblame | how's it going |
| 23:29.52 | randomblame | hey the mach types finally got updated on 2.6.27 source |
| 23:30.05 | randomblame | That was an annoying bunch of crap |
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| 23:47.47 | spetrillo | is no longer away : Gone for 9 hrs 19 mins 33 secs |
| 23:52.45 | dcordes | good night |