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04:21.27 | x_out | ok.. thanks for the help |
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07:33.29 | tmzt | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=roc/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f922a0f84e574dd88ad4f93a9d933c0ba99b3ff |
07:33.38 | tmzt | this is for a new TI wlan chip in omap4 it seems |
07:33.49 | tmzt | we don't need it now but it might help later |
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08:19.23 | manatails | hi tmzt |
08:20.42 | tmzt | 04:19 < tmzt> http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/9546ef97c6ad1c |
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08:20.45 | tmzt | 04:19 < tmzt> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.samsung-soc/910 |
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08:20.51 | tmzt | 04:20 < tmzt> http://github.com/leemgs/samsung-s3c6410-android.1.0 |
08:20.53 | tmzt | 04:20 < tmzt> we should move this to #htc-linux |
08:21.52 | manatails | is there a precompiled one available? |
08:22.12 | tmzt | don't expect the first one you try to boot |
08:22.27 | tmzt | you'll probably need to disable everything but the framebuffer |
08:22.41 | manatails | ok, but I'm not at home atm |
08:22.55 | manatails | irc over 3G |
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11:51.04 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : hello. |
11:53.09 | GNUtoo|laptop | alain2210, hi |
11:53.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | alain2210, I've been looking for you |
11:53.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | the xmodmap didn't work for me |
11:53.29 | alain2210 | It seems you have problem with xmodmap |
11:53.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes |
11:53.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | let me boot an shr-image |
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11:54.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically the alt button + another key don't display the extra-characters |
11:55.04 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : but how to you load the file ? |
11:55.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | xmodmap ./file |
11:55.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | or something like that |
11:55.29 | alain2210 | for me it works with kdrive |
11:55.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah I use xorg |
11:56.27 | alain2210 | what gives xmodmap -pke ? |
11:56.37 | alain2210 | is it that same that the file ? |
11:56.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | booting right now |
12:02.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | ouch my shr-image rootfs is not ssh-accesible |
12:02.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | anyway |
12:02.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll install xorg on my fso2-demo-image |
12:03.01 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : I use an gpe image |
12:03.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
12:06.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | alain2210, can you re-pastebin your xmodmap? |
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12:07.06 | flaep | hello?? |
12:07.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi |
12:08.28 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : http://pastebin.ca/1882835 |
12:08.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | thanks |
12:09.49 | flaep | any one here that is familiar with leo linux project? |
12:10.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://pastebin.com/nCcziqUj |
12:10.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | here's my xmodmap -pke |
12:10.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://pastebin.com/6kRgvSvs |
12:10.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | the error is because of the modifiers |
12:13.56 | flaep | because i want to know is there any way to remote connect to a leo runing the mediaplayer |
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12:16.06 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : I do not see where the error come from. |
12:16.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | I know where it comes from |
12:16.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's the modifiers |
12:16.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | I must delete modifiers before assigning them |
12:17.09 | alain2210 | with remove ? |
12:17.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | or del I gon't remember |
12:17.23 | GNUtoo|laptop | *don't |
12:20.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | if I remove the add it takes the xmodmap |
12:22.07 | mickey_office | hi alain2210 |
12:23.04 | alain2210 | hi mickey_office |
12:23.53 | alain2210 | mickey_office : how can I use trackball as up/down/left/right key ? |
12:24.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | when I replace all the modifiers by: |
12:24.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | remove mod5 = Mode_switch |
12:24.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | add mod1 = Mode_switch |
12:24.23 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's taken into account |
12:24.35 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : good. |
12:24.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | but it doesn't display the extra characters |
12:24.58 | alain2210 | and what says xmodmap -pke ? |
12:25.08 | alain2210 | is it also good ? |
12:25.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickey_office, my implementation is nearly finished,I had a hard time debugging it because wake_lock_internal is started before __init |
12:25.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://pastebin.com/8WWCTYS7 |
12:25.57 | mickey_office | alain2210: in X: no idea. In zhone2 I did it right in the application by listening to fsodeviced key events |
12:26.11 | mickey_office | GNUtoo|laptop: good news |
12:26.57 | alain2210 | mickey_office : I have read the source in zhone2 but not understood how it works. |
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12:27.22 | mickey_office | alain2210: basically it just listens to fsodeviced's signals |
12:27.35 | mickey_office | and maps this to its internal list view commands |
12:27.49 | mickey_office | (controlling the 'cursor') |
12:27.52 | alain2210 | but it is seen as a mouse ? |
12:27.56 | mickey_office | no |
12:28.02 | alain2210 | or as another object ? |
12:28.09 | mickey_office | it's an input source |
12:28.18 | mickey_office | same as a button |
12:28.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | alain2210, xorg can see it as a mouse |
12:28.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | kdrive too |
12:28.52 | alain2210 | with kdrive no success |
12:28.52 | mickey_office | if you want to use it as a mouse, you need to adjust the values though |
12:28.59 | mickey_office | since it only emits +-1 |
12:29.13 | mickey_office | i think it's better to map it to listview cursors |
12:29.14 | mickey_office | and such things |
12:29.17 | mickey_office | on a per-toolkit levl |
12:29.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | I like it beeing very precise |
12:29.18 | alain2210 | how can I use two mouse : ts and trackball ? |
12:29.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | it helps |
12:29.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | alain2210, I don't remember but I remember it's possible |
12:29.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | just try 2 -mouse |
12:29.59 | alain2210 | I got nothing. |
12:30.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
12:30.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | did you use the good /dev/ nodes |
12:30.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
12:30.45 | alain2210 | mickey_office : mapping it ? |
12:31.24 | alain2210 | mickey_office : yes you said : better to map it to listview cursors |
12:31.55 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : I can see in /dev/ that it works |
12:32.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | so about xmodmap? |
12:33.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | what should I do next? |
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12:35.49 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : I have not understood what is the effect of xmodmap if you remove the mod5 before loading the file ? |
12:36.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | it makes it load the file |
12:36.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | for the rest of the effects I don't know |
12:36.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | but |
12:37.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | Mode_switch was asigned to mod_5 |
12:37.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | before |
12:37.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | so because it's already assigned |
12:37.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | I think that makes an error |
12:37.36 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : and now to mod1 ? |
12:37.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes |
12:37.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | see the pastebin |
12:38.05 | alain2210 | which pastebin ? |
12:38.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://pastebin.com/8WWCTYS7 |
12:48.02 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : xmodmap gives me a strange result |
12:48.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah |
12:49.09 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : http://pastebin.ca/1882860 |
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12:50.00 | GNUtoo|laptop | lol ok |
12:50.31 | alain2210 | and with pke I can see that all the unused keys are mapped to mod_switch |
12:50.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah ok |
12:50.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | strange |
12:52.09 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : I think you need that key 60 and 64 are bound to mod_switch |
12:52.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
12:52.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | like : |
12:52.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | keycode 60 = Mode_switch ? |
12:53.01 | alain2210 | sorry 64 and 108 |
12:53.15 | alain2210 | keycode 64 = Mode_switch |
12:53.25 | alain2210 | keycode 108 = Mode_switch |
12:54.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | keycode 108 = Mode_switch NoSymbol Mode_switch |
12:55.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | keycode 64 = Mode_switch NoSymbol Mode_switch |
12:55.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | but still not working |
12:55.52 | alain2210 | and with only Mode_switch ? |
12:55.52 | alain2210 | in your pastebin : |
12:56.01 | alain2210 | keycode 108 = KP_Enter NoSymbol KP_Enter |
12:56.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
12:56.17 | alain2210 | keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L |
12:56.28 | alain2210 | it is what I read |
12:56.43 | alain2210 | in my I have only |
12:56.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
12:56.52 | alain2210 | keycode 64 = Mode_switch |
12:57.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
12:57.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | so what should I do? |
12:57.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll look for Mode_switch |
12:58.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | 64,93,108 |
12:58.17 | alain2210 | what is the effect of setting the two keycode in the xmodmap file ? |
12:58.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | that are mode_switch |
12:58.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll remove some mode switch |
12:58.52 | alain2210 | what says now xmodmap ? |
12:59.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll bitbake xev |
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13:07.43 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : yes i use xev. It is easy to build. |
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13:34.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | 64 and 113 |
13:39.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | that's are the keycode for left and right alt |
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14:10.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi mickey_office |
14:12.40 | mickey_office | yo GNUtoo|laptop |
14:19.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickey_office, I've found a new bug in my code: |
14:19.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | n = vsnprintf(store_buffer,*size,fmt,ap); |
14:20.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | if (n > -1 && n < *size){ printk("error\n");}else{printk("ok\n")} |
14:20.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | code was simplified |
14:20.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | for readability in irc |
14:20.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | so |
14:20.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | at the beginning it prints error |
14:20.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | then after a while it prints ok |
14:20.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | so my question is: |
14:20.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | should I really debug that |
14:21.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | or are fixed length buffer ok? |
14:21.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | note than the vsnprinf is only ran when if (started == 1) |
14:22.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | which is defined at the end of the __init |
14:22.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | and the __init allocates the buffer |
14:22.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | so... |
14:22.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | that would be hard to debug |
14:22.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickey_office, what do you think? |
14:28.36 | mickey_office | I'd say commit something that works to get us started |
14:28.39 | mickey_office | we can iron out bugs later |
14:29.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok so fixed length which works well |
14:31.50 | mickey_office | yep |
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14:35.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | also for now it doesn't reset when we read |
14:35.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | but that can easily be fixed |
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14:37.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | I put enabled by default even if it's against kenrel rules |
14:41.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll commit very soon |
14:41.22 | mickey_office | cool |
14:41.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've only to check if a spinlock is really necessary |
14:42.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | but the fact that it does not reset yet makes it very inefficent for userspace |
14:43.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe polling works ? |
14:43.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | like epoll |
14:43.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I never used theses |
14:44.33 | mickey_office | no, that doesn't work for pseudo file nodes |
14:44.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah ok |
14:44.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | so I commit that and then work on it |
14:44.51 | mickey_office | polling is not so much a problem in that particular case |
14:44.58 | mickey_office | we only poll until we actually fall asleep |
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15:02.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickey_office, http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/b2922ab2674fe270dcf572af2b646ae7c27a4b66 |
15:04.40 | mickey_office | thanx |
15:05.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | tell me when there is something to test |
15:05.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | such as an improved android fso plugin |
15:05.40 | mickey_office | yeha |
15:06.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | btw palm pre seem in a lot better state |
15:06.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | I saw on fso wiki that it has touchscreen |
15:06.31 | mickey_office | yeah, finally |
15:06.34 | mickey_office | that was a tough nut |
15:06.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah ok |
15:06.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | palm pre is available in france |
15:06.49 | mickey_office | bicubic spline interpolation |
15:06.54 | mickey_office | 77 measuring points |
15:06.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | ouch lol |
15:06.56 | mickey_office | crazy format |
15:07.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | the name gives a headeache? |
15:07.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | it seem things like video/image things |
15:07.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | apart that I bet telephony is not yet usable |
15:08.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | are DSP usable? |
15:08.28 | mickey_office | don't know. morphis is the expert here |
15:08.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
15:08.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll ask him later then |
15:08.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I don't think that I'll buy the palm pre |
15:09.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | I must finish the dream first at least |
15:09.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | also if I fix sound we may have video |
15:11.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | also I love the dream's keyboard |
15:12.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's a pity that alain2210's xmodmap doesn't work for me |
15:12.28 | leviathan | hmm |
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15:42.31 | leviathan | GNUtoo|laptop: does xorg just ignore the mofications for the keymap? |
15:42.42 | leviathan | and just act like its the old keymap? |
15:42.48 | leviathan | when you do an input? |
15:43.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | no it doesn't ignore |
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15:49.16 | leviathan | GNUtoo|laptop: what does it then? |
15:50.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | I don't know why but I've issue with modifiers |
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15:56.36 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : the problem is that I have not understood why it works for me |
15:56.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah ok lol |
15:56.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've a theory |
15:57.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | Maybe you use kdrive |
15:57.09 | GNUtoo|laptop | and I use xorg |
15:57.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | and xorg doesn't have a keyboard file for htcdream |
15:57.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | which declare the modifiers |
16:01.01 | alain2210 | you say above 64 and 113. |
16:01.05 | Forsaken|GER | hi there |
16:01.12 | alain2210 | is it found with xev ? |
16:01.39 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : i have no 113 keycode key. |
16:01.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes I used xev |
16:02.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | and we may have different revision of the phone |
16:02.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickey's phone and mine seem different |
16:02.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | he has an ADP |
16:02.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've a carrier |
16:02.29 | Forsaken|GER | does someone maybe know a (good) irc channel for windows mobile coding? (sry for offtopic) |
16:02.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | and the home,phone,back,and hangup keys |
16:02.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | look different |
16:02.34 | alain2210 | I've a t mobile |
16:02.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've a TIM phone |
16:02.55 | alain2210 | so the same ? |
16:03.06 | alain2210 | tim is italian ? |
16:04.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes it's italian |
16:04.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | telecom italia mobile |
16:04.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | or something like this |
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16:08.04 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : and you have an italian keyboard ? |
16:08.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | I don't know |
16:08.23 | GNUtoo|laptop | Italian are derived from qwerty |
16:08.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | but...it's a phone keyboard |
16:08.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | so it's different than the standard keyboard |
16:08.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | so I can't tell |
16:08.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | but it's qwerty |
16:08.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | and it's not the US one |
16:08.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | so I bet so |
16:09.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | not the US one means |
16:09.08 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : ok |
16:09.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | that under android/replicant |
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16:09.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's not mapped correctly |
16:09.23 | GNUtoo|laptop | but alt button work |
16:09.36 | alain2210 | in what sense ? |
16:10.08 | alain2210 | with my and the stock xmodmap alt does nothing |
16:12.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | for instance the - is $ or similar |
16:13.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | but when I press alt + q I've a tab for instance |
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16:18.38 | leviathan | Forsaken|GER: did you ever try the channel list? |
16:18.55 | Forsaken|GER | yea indeed |
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16:19.46 | leviathan | Forsaken|GER: then you should have seen ##windows-coding and ##windows |
16:19.58 | Forsaken|GER | windows != windows mobile |
16:20.13 | leviathan | Forsaken|GER: in addition you must specify windows ce or windows |
16:20.14 | leviathan | :-) |
16:20.17 | leviathan | AND |
16:20.29 | leviathan | there is a windows ARM edition planned |
16:20.31 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : if you have tab with alt q, perhaps |
16:20.40 | leviathan | Forsaken|GER: for freerunner and htcdream |
16:20.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | in android |
16:20.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | I have it |
16:20.43 | Forsaken|GER | that would be nice ^^ |
16:20.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | not in GNU/Linux |
16:21.07 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : ok |
16:21.43 | leviathan | Forsaken|GER: try the windows channel for further details, I know MS people and developers personally, but are not developer for that company. So I'm no specialist for this specific platform |
16:22.15 | Forsaken|GER | okay thats true, thanks |
16:22.23 | leviathan | Forsaken|GER: you're welcome |
16:22.37 | leviathan | Forsaken|GER: and if you ever think to try out OE on your smartphone |
16:22.41 | leviathan | let me know |
16:22.55 | Forsaken|GER | i thought since most htc phones run windows mobile i could be lucky here ;) |
16:23.03 | leviathan | I'm here around mostly all the time, because I do practically do not have ANY private life xD |
16:23.24 | leviathan | Forsaken|GER: I know some partial things |
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16:23.55 | leviathan | but I need more possibilities on my phone, then windows does provice |
16:23.58 | leviathan | *provide |
16:24.08 | leviathan | NAT routing for example |
16:24.17 | leviathan | for routing UMTS to my netbook |
16:24.34 | leviathan | or some protocols, which are not implemented in the NT kernel |
16:24.47 | leviathan | neither CE nor desktop |
16:25.19 | leviathan | and I need to fully trust the software, whom I give sensible data |
16:26.00 | GNUtoo|laptop | wesnoth doesn't run on windowsce |
16:26.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | pingus either |
16:26.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | nor mplayer |
16:26.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | etc... |
16:26.16 | leviathan | additionaly I prefer software where I'm even developer myself |
16:26.23 | leviathan | :-) |
16:26.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | pingus is very playable in landscape |
16:26.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | altough multitouch with it would be nice |
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16:32.02 | leviathan | GNUtoo|laptop: indeed |
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16:44.54 | alain2210 | mickey|wm : how do you get in zhone2 axis and offset from trackball ? |
16:45.09 | alain2210 | mickey|wm : is it done by FSO2 ? |
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16:51.14 | NCommander | Hey all, I'm interested in buying an HTC TouchPro 2, and helping with Android development on it (I've done some work with porting and hacking drivers; I did the G1 eclair camera drivers awhile ago) |
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16:51.46 | NCommander | Before I do that, is it possible to use a TP2 which is dual-mode (CDMA/GSM radios), in both modes under Android? (the page isn't clear) |
16:52.09 | SquirrelEater | Ncommander we need HTC desire wireless drivers! |
16:52.28 | SquirrelEater | for airsnort |
16:52.29 | NCommander | SquirrelEater: Desire? Isn't that already an Android phone |
16:52.34 | NCommander | or did I mixup my models |
16:52.35 | SquirrelEater | yep |
16:52.52 | NCommander | I thought the driver for the wifi was shared with the N1, and it was open |
16:53.11 | [acl] | NCommander: yes please buy one. we need more tp2 devs :-) |
16:53.26 | makkonen | NCommander: Yes, as far as I'm aware, it can be used in both modes... but not in a smooth or efficient way. CDMA only works if you set some different boot options and remove the sim card. undo those and put the SIM back in, and you can use it on GSM networks. |
16:53.30 | SquirrelEater | its open source? |
16:53.58 | NCommander | makkonen: ugh, yuck |
16:54.13 | NCommander | makkonen: I'm currently on T-Mobile, but Sprint fits my world roaming needs better, but I want an Android handset :-) |
16:54.18 | SquirrelEater | NCommander basically we need a wifi wep cracker fdor HTC desire |
16:54.24 | SquirrelEater | so we can steal bandwidth where we find it |
16:54.54 | makkonen | SquirrelEater: I don't know if 'need' is the right word there. |
16:55.12 | NCommander | SquirrelEater: so googling around, its a bcm4329 |
16:55.29 | [acl] | NCommander: TP2 is bcm4325 |
16:55.39 | NCommander | I was talking about the desire :-) |
16:56.23 | SquirrelEater | ok then, 'want' |
16:56.25 | NCommander | SquirrelEater: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware - this looks like what yo uneed |
16:56.27 | makkonen | NCommander: Rhod400/500 is a pretty spectacular phone for world roaming. Unfortunate that WinMo runs like such crap on it, and Android is not ready for full-time usage. (imho) |
16:56.31 | NCommander | (obviously untested since I don't have the hardware) |
16:56.32 | SquirrelEater | NCommander TP2 is niche, come over to the desire |
16:56.43 | NCommander | SquirrelEater: desire sucks compared to the Nexus One |
16:56.53 | NCommander | Unlocked bootloader + triband HSPA |
16:56.56 | NCommander | hates SenseUI |
16:56.57 | SquirrelEater | haha its the same phone |
16:57.07 | NCommander | Its different in a few ways that matter for me |
16:57.33 | NCommander | needs 900/1700/2100 triband WCDMA if I stay on T-Mobile |
16:57.38 | SquirrelEater | I don't have that problem |
16:57.44 | SquirrelEater | its quad band which is good enough for me |
16:57.46 | NCommander | SquirrelEater: well, either your in Europe, or Canada :-) |
16:57.51 | SquirrelEater | uk |
16:57.56 | NCommander | Thought so |
16:58.02 | NCommander | Europe is nice because its got standardized 3G bands |
16:58.12 | NCommander | makkonen: what's the processor on it? |
16:58.16 | NCommander | is doing some research |
16:58.41 | makkonen | msm7600 at 528mhz :-( |
16:58.43 | NCommander | Ow |
16:58.50 | NCommander | That's equivelent to the G1 |
16:58.56 | [acl] | lol .. thats the part that always pushes people away |
16:59.03 | NCommander | actually, no, I think teh G1 is faster than that |
16:59.14 | NCommander | why do all the CDMA worldphones suck in terms ofhardware? |
16:59.34 | makkonen | G1's definitely not faster. |
16:59.44 | makkonen | it's either 528 or downclocked to 400 |
16:59.57 | NCommander | G1 is 528 stock, clockable to 700 |
16:59.58 | NCommander | still |
16:59.59 | NCommander | ow |
17:00.14 | NCommander | wants to go to Sprint for unlimited international data for $40 |
17:00.27 | NCommander | and I can either 1. buy a worldphone 2. buy an EVO 4g, and then have a separate SIM |
17:00.28 | [acl] | NCommander: Do it.. Do it.. tp2 !!! |
17:00.46 | SquirrelEater | NOOOOOOOOO |
17:00.50 | NCommander | [acl]: hrm, where are you based in meatspace? (I'd love to play with an Android TP2 in person) |
17:00.51 | makkonen | heh |
17:00.53 | SquirrelEater | ok i give up |
17:00.58 | SquirrelEater | t-mobile sucks here btw |
17:01.09 | [acl] | NCommander: NY |
17:01.18 | makkonen | NCommander: where are you? |
17:01.24 | NCommander | NY |
17:01.29 | NCommander | Bouncing between Rochester, NY, and NYC |
17:02.19 | xawen | NCommander: just take a SD card to a friendly store. It runs completely off the card w/o modifying the phone so you can try it there. |
17:02.36 | NCommander | xawen: ENOFRIENDLYSTORE |
17:03.09 | makkonen | ha |
17:03.10 | NCommander | ugh |
17:03.13 | NCommander | I hate T-Mobile sometimes |
17:03.16 | NCommander | They have great domestic rates |
17:03.21 | NCommander | and incredibly crappy international ones |
17:04.10 | makkonen | is it really worth it to use the US carriers' international plans? I would assume getting a sim wherever you go has got to work out better in nearly all cases. |
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17:04.32 | NCommander | makkonen: normally, yes, but that doesn't work if you go across multiple boarders in a short period of time |
17:04.39 | makkonen | right |
17:04.50 | NCommander | Sprint has $40 unlimited international data, which is had to beat, even with prepaids |
17:04.54 | NCommander | and I sometimes can't always get a SIM |
17:05.13 | makkonen | yeah, that's pretty stellar. didn't know about that plan. |
17:05.40 | NCommander | The voice rates aren't great, but you can use VoIP over EDGE or 3G |
17:08.58 | NCommander | also dislikes blackberries |
17:09.11 | NCommander | I'm just suprised a decent Android CDMA worldphone hasn't popped out yet |
17:09.32 | makkonen | I think it's a pretty small niche market. |
17:09.46 | NCommander | Possibly |
17:09.55 | NCommander | But its hard to find a GSM phone these days that isn't tri or quad band |
17:10.14 | makkonen | true |
17:13.11 | NCommander | So what's the big issues with running Android on TP2? |
17:14.42 | [acl] | guess it boils down to not knowing enough about the hardware |
17:14.53 | NCommander | [acl]: always an issue unfortunately |
17:16.17 | [acl] | NCommander: We have a guy on Xda who took apart his tp2 in hopes to learn more. Some jtag nonsense but he kinda disappeared . |
17:16.58 | NCommander | [acl]: :-/, at least the kernel looks like its fairly stable |
17:17.04 | NCommander | the problem is Winows Mobile is just pure suck |
17:18.17 | [acl] | This is why we need more tp2 guys around. |
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17:22.49 | makkonen | NCommander: I think the biggest issues currently with Android on the TP2 are: Sound doesn't work (dealbreaker for me)... this is a weird adsp issue, I gather, and smart people have looked at it and gotten nowhere. Backlight doesn't ever turn off (and, by extension, there are just general power management issues). Camera's still far from working (which I, frankly, don't even care about). General functioning is pretty solid, in my exp |
17:23.20 | NCommander | ADSPs are evil unfortunately |
17:23.31 | NCommander | or well, DSPs in gneeral |
17:23.40 | makkonen | yes, that seems to be the problem. dealing with the evil. |
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17:24.50 | xawen | if I remeber right, the sound work was stuck on trying to figure out what WinMo does to initialize the DSP |
17:25.16 | [acl] | NCommander: Also recently ive been finding out Rhod400/500 are really different than the others. plus there is very little documentation on it. Ive started to update the wiki this weekend. |
17:25.46 | NCommander | Rhod400/500? |
17:25.56 | NCommander | is that like how the Wizard had the 100 and 200? |
17:26.04 | NCommander | notes the Wizard was his last Windows Mobile device :-/ |
17:26.20 | makkonen | Anyone know anything about dzo's tinboot stuff? Has anyone tried to get it up and running on a raph/diam/blac/topa/rhod? It seems like he made it modular enough that it could be ported over without too much heartache (though I'll admit I'm freaked out by the assembler code)... but I haven't heard anything about it around here. |
17:26.50 | makkonen | NCommander: RHOD400/500 are Sprint/VZW... the two cdma+gsm models. 100/200/etc are gsm only models. |
17:27.53 | makkonen | and, like all cdma models, they've got weird undocumented differences from the gsm variants. which turn out to be real bummers for people on Sprint. |
17:28.53 | makkonen | (though so far cdma TP2 is closer to gsm than cdma TP was to gsm, I'd say. Thankfully.) |
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17:29.06 | NCommander | Sprint's handsets are bloody weird |
17:29.09 | makkonen | [acl]: which wiki? |
17:29.23 | NCommander | They have a bastardized version of CDMA for activation and roaming which causes all sorts of issues |
17:29.50 | [acl] | www.htc-linux.org/wiki |
17:31.28 | NCommander | I get a timeout when I try to access that page |
17:31.37 | makkonen | huh. there's a separate mach_type for rhodium cdma. |
17:31.55 | makkonen | ...I don't think any of our kernel code takes account of that. |
17:32.21 | NCommander | knows he's pretty green when dealing with kernel work sadly :-/ |
17:35.58 | [acl] | nope i dont think the kernel cares if you are cdma or not. |
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17:37.01 | makkonen | well... it kinda cares. I don't think there are even any entries for the cdma mach_type. |
17:37.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh, are you here? |
17:37.34 | makkonen | but I don't think we've encountered anything yet that'd need to be specified on the kernel level. |
17:38.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | alain2210, hi I'm back |
17:39.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | do you have a new idea? |
17:39.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | I try with only one key as modifier? |
17:40.42 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : does xmodmap still has Alt keys ? |
17:40.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll look |
17:41.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | no it doesn't |
17:42.00 | NCommander | makkonen: ok, stupid question since I'm a HaReT newbie, but how does it actually start the kernel? Obviously it somehow resets the processor into supervisor mode and sets the ATAGS, but I'm foggy on how that works |
17:42.04 | NCommander | is looking at the DSP thread |
17:42.05 | alain2210 | and both "real alt" key do not work ? |
17:42.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll look |
17:42.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | <PROTECTED> |
17:42.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe I should map them as alt? |
17:43.08 | alain2210 | with Xfbdev I think no. |
17:43.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
17:43.35 | makkonen | ncommander: I'm probably not the right person to ask. I don't have a great grounding in the technical details of haret. |
17:43.43 | NCommander | ah |
17:44.17 | NCommander | Well, I'm just thinking about the DSP. I'm not familiar with the one in the TP2, but I might be able to formate a theory to your initialization issues |
17:44.37 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : if I observ my laptop |
17:44.48 | [acl] | NCommander: ahh i want to hear theories. i wish Phh was around to throw his 2 cents |
17:44.56 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Meta_L (0xcd) |
17:45.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
17:45.10 | alain2210 | so perhaps should you do the same with xorg |
17:45.20 | NCommander | [acl]: well, how does HaRet load a kernel specifically? Obviously you can't just throw an image in RAM directly since the processor isn't in supervisor mode |
17:45.39 | xawen | ncommander: which dsp thread were you referring to? |
17:45.48 | NCommander | xawen: the one on ppcgeeks |
17:45.53 | xawen | ah |
17:45.55 | NCommander | I think the issue might be that somethings holding the DSP open |
17:46.08 | NCommander | Basically, somethign is initializing it, and placing a hook to catch events (the windows driver) |
17:46.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
17:46.23 | NCommander | When haret boots the kernel, the DSP isn't reset, and is still holding onto that hook |
17:46.29 | NCommander | And thus, won't respond to normal commands |
17:46.58 | [acl] | NCommander: ive never looked at the haret code to see what it does. ive been too absorbed by getting 3d working. I made it my life mission |
17:47.06 | NCommander | so it might just be a matter of trashing wavedrv.dll and rebooting |
17:47.14 | NCommander | (might be too obvious, but it might cause the DSP to show a sign of lie) |
17:47.16 | NCommander | er |
17:47.17 | NCommander | life |
17:47.51 | [acl] | jonpry is the guy to talk to about that. He has done alot of sound research. |
17:47.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | still doesn't work... |
17:48.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L |
17:48.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Meta_L (0x9c) |
17:49.02 | alain2210 | GNUtoo|laptop : and I you do a simpler |
17:49.10 | alain2210 | keycode 64 = Alt_L |
17:49.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
17:49.25 | alain2210 | and removing the other mod? |
17:50.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | still doesn't work |
17:50.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll tyr something |
17:51.16 | alain2210 | maybe try xfdev ? |
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17:51.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've that: |
17:52.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | mod5 BadKey (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) |
17:52.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | when doing that: |
17:52.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | keycode 64 = Mode_switch NoSymbol Mode_switch |
17:56.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | mod5 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_L (0x7d) => still no extra-keys |
17:56.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | s/keys/symbols |
17:56.46 | alain2210 | you may try to remove also mod5 |
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17:57.16 | alain2210 | If I remember well, I was not able to make 2 mod work |
17:58.23 | phh | [18:56:32] <NCommander> (obviously untested since I don't have the hardware) <--------- rhod has same wifi chip as desire, you'll help :p |
17:58.43 | NCommander | phh: and I believe both have the same chip as the Nexus One |
17:58.51 | phh | yup |
17:58.53 | phh | well not the same |
17:58.56 | phh | bcm4325 vs bcm4329 |
17:59.01 | NCommander | ugh |
17:59.02 | [acl] | phh: wait.. tp2? doesnt it have the 4325 not 4329? |
17:59.03 | phh | only different features |
17:59.06 | [acl] | ohh ok.. there we go |
17:59.07 | NCommander | well, the b43 driver shoudl work regardless |
17:59.26 | phh | well, last time I looked at it, b43 doesn't know anything about sdio |
17:59.44 | NCommander | phh: its sdio based?! ow |
17:59.51 | phh | yup |
18:00.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh, kovsky was broken once you've updated the kernel base. could you sed -i s/KOVSKY/VENUS/g over defconfig, mach-msm, drivers/input/touchscreen and drivers/video/msm when you have time? |
18:00.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | on my laptop alt_gr is: |
18:00.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | keycode 108 = ISO_Level3_Shift NoSymbol ISO_Level3_Shift |
18:00.27 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: hoohoops. |
18:00.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | and is: |
18:00.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | mod5 ISO_Level3_Shift (0x5c), Mode_switch (0xcb) |
18:02.54 | phh | [19:23:20] <NCommander> ADSPs are evil unfortunately <----------- well adsp is not really the problem here I think. it's the modem. |
18:03.02 | phh | (we talk to adsp through modem only) |
18:03.25 | stinebd | it's still evil probably |
18:03.39 | phh | it's even more evil :p |
18:03.52 | xawen | indirect evil ;) |
18:05.13 | phh | [19:26:20] <makkonen> Anyone know anything about dzo's tinboot stuff? Has anyone tried to get it up and running on a raph/diam/blac/topa/rhod? It seems like he made it modular enough that it could be ported over without too much heartache (though I'll admit I'm freaked out by the assembler code)... but I haven't heard anything about it around here. <-------- yup, tinboot works fine |
18:05.21 | phh | well you have to change block size or something like that |
18:05.24 | phh | but it just works |
18:05.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | mod5 ISO_Level3_Shift (0x40), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c) => stillno go |
18:06.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, tinboot works. does the panel initialization work on diam btw? |
18:09.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | mod5 ISO_Level3_Shift (0x40) |
18:09.06 | phh | [19:45:20] <NCommander> [acl]: well, how does HaRet load a kernel specifically? Obviously you can't just throw an image in RAM directly since the processor isn't in supervisor mode <------ you're sure it's not in supervisor mode ... ? (I don't think wimo knows any memory protection stuff.) |
18:09.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | still no go |
18:09.39 | NCommander | phh: if Windows Mobile doesn't have memory protection, I'm horrified that Microsoft still supports that crap |
18:09.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll try in #xorg |
18:09.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually, winmo has a function to switch to supervisor mode |
18:10.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | it seems to be fixed in wince 6.0 though |
18:10.17 | phh | [19:45:55] <NCommander> I think the issue might be that somethings holding the DSP open <---- oh you can try doing that, with playing some sound while booting. linux wonwill just not boot |
18:10.25 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: so no existing windows mobile :p |
18:11.02 | NCommander | phh: O_O;;; why doesn't it boot |
18:11.22 | phh | NCommander: it kills smd, which kills A9, which kills kernel |
18:11.32 | NCommander | owwwwwwwww |
18:11.54 | [acl] | told you phh will have the answers !!! |
18:11.55 | [acl] | lol |
18:12.26 | phh | (A9=modem) |
18:13.18 | rafyvitto | anyone knows were i can find information regarding the onboard gpu the msm7227 has, qctconnect.com is redirecting me to qualcomm/qct.com, this dint used to happen like 5 months ago or so. |
18:14.02 | phh | rafyvitto: codeaurora's source code ? :D |
18:14.23 | rafyvitto | btw have you guys tried nenamark1 open gl es 2.0 benchmark |
18:14.32 | rafyvitto | i scored 15.9fps on my liquid |
18:14.35 | NCommander | rafyvitto: try looking at cyanogenmod, he got the GPU working on teh G1 which is similar I think |
18:14.54 | [acl] | rafyvitto: way better than what i get on my tp2 |
18:15.07 | phh | rafyvitto: talking about ogles 2 here is indecent I'd say :p |
18:15.14 | phh | only your liquid can do ogles2 |
18:15.45 | [acl] | more like a slap in the face |
18:15.47 | rafyvitto | im just saying cause im curious to see what evo/nexus guys have gotten |
18:15.51 | phh | NCommander: no, the gpu of G1 has nothing to do with 7227's one |
18:16.06 | NCommander | bugger |
18:16.17 | NCommander | cyanogen got a mirror of stuff on codeaurora before it went poof though |
18:16.20 | phh | 7227 can do gles 2 |
18:16.26 | rafyvitto | or any other qsd82xx device for that matter |
18:16.55 | phh | rafyvitto: did you try in froyo ? p |
18:16.58 | phh | en perhaps overclocked ? :p |
18:17.09 | rafyvitto | havent flash froyo as of yet brb |
18:17.26 | phh | pff. |
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18:18.47 | rafyvitto | you think it will make a difrence phh xD, its just that i dont have a data plan, and since theres no wifi, i need internet in my life lol |
18:19.11 | phh | rafyvitto: yeah same problem |
18:19.18 | phh | I need usb otg on TP2 or liquid. |
18:19.31 | phh | rafyvitto: do you have an apk for nenamark1? |
18:19.36 | rafyvitto | yep |
18:19.46 | rafyvitto | you want it? |
18:19.54 | phh | yup |
18:20.00 | rafyvitto | k brb let me get my lqiuid |
18:20.02 | rafyvitto | liquid* |
18:20.05 | phh | ~usb_function_switch |
18:20.06 | apt | it has been said that usb_function_switch is /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
18:20.11 | phh | LeTama: write 2 to that file |
18:22.09 | rafyvitto | motorola droid users have gotten 11-14fps on nenamark1 on froyo :P |
18:25.20 | LeTama | phh, ok thanks |
18:25.24 | phh | rafyvitto: I don't get how the hell you can get 15.9fps. |
18:25.43 | LeTama | forgot about this one, did try it on leo, but not on the diamond |
18:25.52 | phh | [20:06:20] <Alex[sp3dev]> yes, tinboot works. does the panel initialization work on diam btw? <----- it is said to |
18:26.07 | rafyvitto | http://www.mediafire.com/file/mvmkamyymzz/se.nena.nenamark1.apk |
18:26.17 | rafyvitto | yep i was impressed my self lol |
18:26.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh, that means you have not tried nand boot yourself? |
18:26.29 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: I did |
18:26.47 | phh | iirc it gave something like smd doesn't come up |
18:27.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, on my device it seemed to boot but rpc kept crashing |
18:28.30 | rafyvitto | did you download it phh? |
18:28.37 | phh | rafyvitto: no |
18:28.39 | phh | I couldn't find it |
18:28.46 | rafyvitto | http://www.mediafire.com/file/mvmkamyymzz/se.nena.nenamark1.apk |
18:28.48 | rafyvitto | there |
18:28.54 | phh | thanks |
18:29.01 | rafyvitto | yep np |
18:29.27 | rafyvitto | you running froyo? |
18:29.32 | phh | yup |
18:29.36 | rafyvitto | kk |
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18:29.56 | phh | that's why I need the apk :p |
18:30.08 | rafyvitto | ya :P |
18:31.50 | phh | rafyvitto: 12.9fps |
18:32.10 | rafyvitto | ok....thats not what i expected xD |
18:32.44 | rafyvitto | well the donut drivers arnt perfect regarding open gl es 2.0 |
18:32.51 | phh | you're on donut ? |
18:32.54 | rafyvitto | there kinda funky running games |
18:33.01 | rafyvitto | i was for like 2 months |
18:33.31 | phh | ogles 2 on donut isn't really hum .... |
18:34.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh, here is my dmesg of tinboot just in case. http://pastebin.com/EBYn2acc. it seems rpc has come up. but rpc didn't. i think i'll try again later with drivers from the git |
18:34.55 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: venus changes pushed btw |
18:35.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah, thanks |
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18:35.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, regarding camera tree |
18:35.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | why didn't you try implementing correct gpios? |
18:35.41 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: your logs seems to work ? |
18:35.48 | phh | gpios are correct for my board oO |
18:36.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | really? sorry, i didn't see where they are setup |
18:36.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, gpios 2 to 15 for camera |
18:36.29 | phh | to 15 ? |
18:36.33 | phh | I thought that stop lower |
18:36.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | wait, i'll look again) |
18:36.49 | phh | well |
18:36.54 | phh | I have gpio 2 to15 setted |
18:36.59 | phh | but only for diamond. |
18:37.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | my fault, i was looking into diamond |
18:37.49 | phh | uh ? |
18:38.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, i'm completely inattentive today |
18:38.14 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: your dmesg looks fine /o\ |
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18:38.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, that dmesg looks more or less ok, but i will need to fix the panel yet |
18:39.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | and usb ;) |
18:39.27 | phh | right, without neither screen nor usb |
18:39.30 | phh | it's kind of complicated :p |
18:40.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes. moreover, kovsky doesn't have external uart |
18:41.41 | rafyvitto | oh btw im on vache's stream rom, i doubt thats the reason why im getting 15.9fps tho |
18:42.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | so, phh, what was the final result with the camera? did it come up at all? |
18:42.46 | phh | I don't remmeber |
18:42.55 | phh | rafyvitto: could be |
18:43.54 | rafyvitto | maybe acer did some magic on the stream ogles 2 drivers lol |
18:45.14 | phh | or they just have updated drivers |
18:45.44 | phh | let me test stream's drivers. |
18:46.47 | rafyvitto | it would only make sence since the stream will be there flag device very soon |
18:47.36 | rafyvitto | im desiding wether to get it or get a telus motorola milestone |
18:48.00 | rafyvitto | il have to the price of the stream to decide |
18:48.40 | phh | OKAY |
18:48.47 | phh | ah right |
18:48.53 | phh | I forgot that app2sd is slow to start. |
18:49.06 | rafyvitto | see* |
18:49.20 | phh | rafyvitto: yeah stream will be a beast. |
18:49.46 | phh | rafyvitto: 12.7 fps with stream's drivers |
18:49.52 | phh | so what ? |
18:49.55 | phh | acer overclocked gpu ? |
18:50.01 | phh | with downclocked cpu ? |
18:50.06 | phh | doesn't sound stupid. |
18:51.02 | rafyvitto | im not following xD |
18:51.21 | phh | which part ? :p |
18:51.42 | rafyvitto | the stream runs at 1ghz ><, or you talking about a lqiuid stream test rom lol |
18:51.49 | rafyvitto | liquid* |
18:51.59 | phh | ah it's 1GHz ? |
18:52.02 | phh | so not downclocked. |
18:52.04 | rafyvitto | yes |
18:52.14 | phh | well |
18:52.22 | phh | by the time it's out, there'll be dual core phones. |
18:53.29 | rafyvitto | yep |
18:53.59 | rafyvitto | if the stream is less than 500$ il get one |
18:54.04 | rafyvitto | if not il get a milestone |
18:54.42 | phh | I'm pretty sure it will be less than 500$ |
18:54.56 | rafyvitto | me to, acer likes to sell at that price range |
18:55.07 | rafyvitto | my acer neotouch was 500$ at launch |
18:55.10 | rafyvitto | s200* |
18:55.26 | phh | that much ?!? |
18:56.13 | rafyvitto | yep |
18:57.49 | rafyvitto | well it was that or arm and legs hd2 |
18:58.05 | rafyvitto | 900$ or so |
18:58.30 | phh | okay. |
19:01.20 | rafyvitto | ok so my Conspiracy theory regarding the liquid E 512mb of ram si indeed a new 512mb chip |
19:01.30 | rafyvitto | acer are dutch bags |
19:03.33 | phh | ? |
19:04.21 | rafyvitto | remember i told you about a possibility that the liquid a1 might have 256mb of ram lock't, since the liquid e has 512mb of ram |
19:04.30 | phh | yes |
19:04.42 | rafyvitto | i went into a Conspiracy theory hd2 land xD |
19:04.59 | phh | hd2 ? |
19:05.37 | rafyvitto | the hd2 had hidden ram |
19:05.41 | phh | no it doesn't |
19:05.50 | rafyvitto | which was unlock with a chinease radio |
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19:08.18 | phh | and liquiid doesn't have 256MB either |
19:08.21 | phh | but 256+64 |
19:08.30 | phh | or +32 ? |
19:08.31 | phh | meh I don't remember |
19:08.32 | rafyvitto | oh really |
19:08.38 | rafyvitto | that i dint know |
19:08.49 | rafyvitto | 64 is for what? kernel? |
19:09.16 | phh | many things |
19:09.27 | makkonen | woooo Paraguay |
19:09.48 | phh | rafyvitto: 64MB (or 32? I still don't know.) SMI + 256MB EBI |
19:09.53 | phh | they don't have any predetermined used |
19:10.09 | rafyvitto | ic now |
19:11.23 | phh | in our kernels, smi is used for framebuffer, gpu, and gpu again. |
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19:15.23 | dcordes-hd2 | morning |
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19:17.41 | dcordes-hd2 | ravyvito: can you tell us more about the chinese hd2 radio that enables extra ram ? |
19:18.11 | rafyvitto | are you been sarcastic? |
19:18.24 | dcordes-hd2 | no |
19:19.28 | phh | dcordes-hd2: I think he means the tmobile one that makes appear 64MB. |
19:19.44 | rafyvitto | http://htcpedia.com/news/hidden-ram-in-the-european-version-of-the-htc-hd2/ its quite old news |
19:21.50 | rafyvitto | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5448397&postcount=1 |
19:22.10 | dcordes-hd2 | oh ok. thanks. I thought it was sth new |
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19:28.59 | \ | dcordes, what does your latest tweet mean lol? |
19:30.33 | rafyvitto | @\, awasome nick |
19:30.49 | NetRipper | hm i can't boot the leo kernel anymor when its in a zImage (after applying the invalid instruction patch) |
19:31.12 | NetRipper | not sure why |
19:33.24 | dcordes-hd2 | ravy: was.just some test nothing groundbreaking |
19:33.39 | dcordes-hd2 | which patch? |
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19:34.36 | store | hi all |
19:37.31 | dcordes-hd2 | hi store |
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19:46.08 | NetRipper | :) |
19:49.23 | tmzt | Image still boots? |
19:51.38 | NetRipper | yes |
19:51.49 | NetRipper | hm |
19:51.55 | NetRipper | i'll verify that as well in a min lol |
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19:52.29 | NetRipper | dont have my microusb cable here, gotta wait till the soccer match is over :P |
19:52.56 | dcordes-hd2 | lol I'm also in world cup mode |
19:53.18 | tmzt | b43 needs an sdio to dhd bridge |
19:53.53 | phh | http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/WEBSW/GW620/RUSCO/1203/EN_2)GW620_SVC_ENG_091203.zip <--------- I wish HTC released such docs :D |
19:55.02 | dcordes-hd2 | tmzt what's dhd ? btw, are you subscribed to mobile-linux-discuss ? |
19:56.29 | phh | omfg. |
19:56.37 | phh | why isn't captnoord here /o\ |
19:56.44 | phh | there is some pm7540 doc in there /o\ |
19:57.01 | phh | (page 46) |
19:57.11 | tmzt | yeah, and linux-arm-ms |
19:57.27 | [acl] | phh: time to celebrate ? |
19:57.35 | phh | [acl]: celebrate what ? |
19:57.39 | stinebd | 4 weeks on battery? |
19:57.44 | [acl] | i dunno, you sound like you had good news |
19:57.54 | phh | [acl]: I don't think it's of any use |
19:58.02 | phh | that's just crazy LG give so precise docs. |
19:58.02 | tmzt | drivers/net/wireless/bcm4329/dhd_sdio.c |
19:58.15 | tmzt | dhd is the interface bcm wireless chips use |
19:58.16 | dcordes-hd2 | ok thx |
19:58.26 | tmzt | that needs ported to b43 somehow |
19:58.33 | tmzt | commands might be different too |
19:58.43 | [acl] | phh: Can you help me understand this msm_clk wiki page. ? and how it relates to the clock-wince ? |
19:58.48 | phh | sure |
19:59.20 | [acl] | i dumped 0xA8600000 on the rhod. 3d on and off. Binary diff shows that there are differences. Just wondering how this relates to the code itself |
19:59.48 | phh | offsets are in the wiki and code |
20:01.12 | [acl] | phh: i see that but the values arent the same. so im wondering how the values are calculated on the code |
20:01.50 | [acl] | phh: for example a8600080 | 00000a00 00000a8c 00000200 00000a21 . Looks nothing like Raph but yet they share the same code |
20:02.08 | phh | I think we did try to use wimo's settings |
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20:03.35 | [acl] | im dumping enough stuff that i wanna try and test changes. So do i just dump these values like 0xa8c into it and wish for the best ? also mrpippy mentioned a while back that a rpc call may be needed? |
20:03.55 | phh | the rpc call is already done |
20:04.11 | phh | I think |
20:04.19 | phh | ah. |
20:04.20 | phh | no. |
20:04.32 | phh | pfff |
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20:05.11 | [acl] | so sounds like i can do that tonight and change the values. |
20:06.09 | dcordes-hd2 | tmzt any idea how to check mem for errors in kernel mode? |
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20:20.33 | [acl] | Phh: one last thing. this looks weird to me. |
20:20.35 | [acl] | REG_OR( MSM_GRP_NS_REG, 0x800 ); |
20:20.35 | [acl] | REG_OR( MSM_GRP_NS_REG, 0x80 ); |
20:20.35 | [acl] | REG_OR( MSM_GRP_NS_REG, 0x200 ); |
20:21.18 | dcordes-hd2 | cr2_ hi |
20:22.43 | phh | [acl]: whaty about it ? |
20:22.44 | phh | hi cr2_ |
20:22.56 | [acl] | phh: why 3 lines? you have to make these changes in steps? |
20:23.06 | phh | [acl]: easier to read I'd say |
20:23.10 | phh | ask captnoord :p |
20:24.06 | [acl] | ic. So these prob add up to A80 i take it.. i'll ask him when i see him around |
20:48.13 | dcordes-hd2 | cr2_ how goes it? |
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21:44.31 | ToAsTcfh | phh: what up? |
21:45.03 | ToAsTcfh | liquid awesomeness?! |
21:45.49 | phh | no |
21:46.20 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
21:46.36 | ToAsTcfh | sadness falls on the evo forum over source |
21:47.06 | ToAsTcfh | my source is only good for the 5000 devices given out at i/o |
21:47.44 | ToAsTcfh | they are hardware version 2/0002 mine and the rest are 2-3/0003 |
21:48.36 | ToAsTcfh | panel seems to be vary different |
21:50.14 | ToAsTcfh | epson_init_seq is in the code for the 0003 devices. while 0002 uses nov_init_seq |
21:50.28 | ToAsTcfh | in the panel code |
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21:50.36 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
21:51.43 | phh | should be disassemblable. |
21:51.44 | phh | time to sleep |
21:53.31 | ToAsTcfh | nite bro |
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