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| 01:30.00 | sovereignty | stinebd: you here now? |
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| 01:46.51 | sovereignty | stinebd: well...i don't know what time zone your in...you're probably sleeping lol...i sent you an email :D |
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| 01:52.49 | sovereignty | man, this place is quiet. Where the heck is everyone located? I'm GMT -6 |
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| 01:58.50 | HTCdemon | sovereignty, EST |
| 01:59.05 | HTCdemon | so.... GMT -5 |
| 01:59.08 | HTCdemon | iirc |
| 01:59.33 | sovereignty | oh...someone's here...lol |
| 01:59.43 | sovereignty | i was beginning there was noone from US |
| 01:59.52 | sovereignty | *beginning to think |
| 02:00.22 | sovereignty | I think everyone with the answers are from across the Atlantic |
| 02:02.57 | HTCdemon | lol\ |
| 02:03.00 | HTCdemon | either that or busy |
| 02:03.49 | sovereignty | well, i do know a couple are from france and...somewhere else over there in Europe |
| 02:04.28 | sovereignty | this is a lonely place at this time of day for us guys over here |
| 02:09.04 | HTCdemon | probably |
| 02:09.15 | HTCdemon | either that or people are busy with their thinking caps ;P |
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| 02:18.57 | stinebd | sovereignty: -j2 is good for a single processor/core, yes |
| 02:19.11 | stinebd | sorry, i was out of the house |
| 02:20.42 | sovereignty | thx |
| 02:20.49 | sovereignty | i was about to build anyways |
| 02:21.24 | sovereignty | stinebd: thx for verifying...I got delayed and you caught me right before I did it |
| 02:22.20 | sovereignty | building now............. |
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| 02:24.37 | sovereignty | stinebd: just executed make........see ya in 20 years :D |
| 02:27.44 | sovereignty | oh crap |
| 02:28.04 | sovereignty | it shouldn't have finished that fast |
| 02:30.33 | sovereignty | stinebd: something happened...should there be a log file somewhere that I can send you? |
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| 02:36.45 | sovereignty | stinebd: host Java: clearsilver (out/host/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/clearsilver_intermediates/classes) |
| 02:36.45 | sovereignty | Header: out/target/product/msm/obj/include/libsonivox/ARM_synth_constants_gnu.inc |
| 02:36.45 | sovereignty | target Java: core (out/target/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/core_intermediates/classes) |
| 02:36.45 | sovereignty | host Java: dx (out/host/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/dx_intermediates/classes) |
| 02:36.46 | sovereignty | Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations. |
| 02:36.46 | sovereignty | Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details. |
| 02:37.12 | stinebd | sovereignty: normal |
| 02:38.09 | sovereignty | well...that's the only odd things i can find |
| 02:38.20 | sovereignty | is there a log file that is created? |
| 02:38.42 | sovereignty | It finished in like 10 minutes...i don't think my computer is THAT fast |
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| 02:40.26 | sovereignty | stinebd: I have no images in out/target/product/msm like wiki says I should have after it finished |
| 02:40.45 | stinebd | sovereignty: well the error is somewhere else then |
| 02:41.05 | sovereignty | stinebd: is there a log file generated somewhere? |
| 02:41.21 | stinebd | sovereignty: it spits everything out to console |
| 02:41.27 | sovereignty | crap |
| 02:41.49 | sovereignty | stinebd: let me look VERY closely and see if i see and error |
| 02:41.54 | sovereignty | it's a lot to look at |
| 02:42.41 | sovereignty | stinebd: make: *** No rule to make target `out/target/product/msm/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libpower_intermediates/libpower.a', needed by `out/target/product/msm/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/librpc_intermediates/LINKED/librpc.so'. Stop. |
| 02:42.41 | sovereignty | make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... |
| 02:42.53 | stinebd | oh god, that's right |
| 02:43.00 | stinebd | we still need a patch for libhardware_legacy |
| 02:43.05 | sovereignty | i followed the wiki strictly |
| 02:43.43 | sovereignty | stinebd: so what can I do? plleeease? |
| 02:45.04 | stinebd | sovereignty: cd hardware/libhardware_legacy ; wget http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Build-libpower-needed-for-2.1-librpc.patch ; patch -p1 <http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Build-libpower-needed-for-2.1-librpc.patch |
| 02:45.37 | stinebd | then return to the aosp root and make again |
| 02:45.48 | sovereignty | stinebd: will try now... |
| 02:48.11 | sovereignty | stinebd: is the < needed before the last link? |
| 02:48.21 | stinebd | woops |
| 02:48.27 | sovereignty | *second link |
| 02:48.34 | stinebd | patch -p1 <0001-Build-libpower-needed-for-2.1-librpc.patch |
| 02:48.36 | stinebd | that one |
| 02:49.04 | sovereignty | ahhhh...makes more sense |
| 02:50.26 | sovereignty | stinebd: "patching file Android.mk" ........ no errors .... ready to make? |
| 02:50.34 | stinebd | yes |
| 02:50.40 | sovereignty | AWESOME |
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| 02:51.58 | sovereignty | stinebd: there's a bunch of "no such file or directory" for dalvik stuff |
| 02:52.05 | stinebd | also normal |
| 02:52.05 | sovereignty | still making |
| 02:52.10 | sovereignty | cool |
| 02:52.22 | stinebd | did you check out master or eclair? |
| 02:53.18 | stinebd | if master, i'll be interested to know if it's still broken |
| 02:53.34 | stinebd | there's been a partial import of froyo sources into dalvik which breaks the build |
| 02:53.37 | sovereignty | stinebd: I really appreciate your help! I am new to building android...I am experienced c/c++ coder, but new to this and you are a great help |
| 02:53.43 | stinebd | it's been unbuildable for weeks |
| 02:54.13 | sovereignty | stinebd: I didn't append anything to the end of the git url in the wiki like "eclair" |
| 02:55.11 | stinebd | well if you get some obscure error regarding javalib.jar, it's still broken |
| 02:55.23 | sovereignty | stinebd: although, I did use git://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/manifest.git |
| 02:56.16 | sovereignty | I didn't branch to eclair, but just use the fore-mentioned url |
| 02:57.25 | sovereignty | stinebd: it's still building, so I am MUCH further than the first time! |
| 02:58.44 | sovereignty | stinebd: so if I used "git://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/manifest.git" is this considered the "master" |
| 02:59.05 | stinebd | Without a -b <branch_name> argument, the repositories will track the HEAD branch, which will always be the latest released AOSP tree. |
| 02:59.12 | stinebd | (master) |
| 03:00.36 | sovereignty | stinebd: that's what I understood....I didn't append a branch. So I am using the master repo, correct? |
| 03:01.20 | stinebd | right |
| 03:01.57 | sovereignty | cool |
| 03:02.14 | stinebd | chances are the build will fail |
| 03:02.26 | sovereignty | :( |
| 03:02.38 | sovereignty | what then? |
| 03:02.58 | sovereignty | will I have a good image or is it because of the tree? |
| 03:03.07 | stinebd | you'll end up having to do something like: repo forall -c git checkout eclair |
| 03:03.49 | sovereignty | hmmmm...what exactly does that do? |
| 03:03.50 | stinebd | with that, repo will go through all of the individual repositories and check out the eclair branch where available |
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| 03:04.22 | sovereignty | stinebd: then do I do a make again with updated branches? |
| 03:04.26 | stinebd | yes |
| 03:04.40 | stinebd | unfortunately starting over |
| 03:04.44 | sovereignty | oh no |
| 03:05.12 | sovereignty | should I stop now and do this as a safeguard or just see if it fails? |
| 03:05.15 | stinebd | hopefully they completed that merge and the build will succeed |
| 03:05.36 | sovereignty | stinebd: so I'm the guinea pig... :P |
| 03:05.42 | stinebd | well no |
| 03:05.44 | stinebd | i was the guinea pig |
| 03:05.54 | stinebd | there's a warning in the wiki to the effect of what i just told you |
| 03:06.01 | stinebd | always read the loud red boxes |
| 03:06.09 | sovereignty | oh i know what you're talking about |
| 03:06.15 | sovereignty | i read them |
| 03:06.39 | stinebd | we're near a major android release, and google tends to do incomplete merges by mistake just before those |
| 03:08.03 | sovereignty | then the next part says "The Android build system, which hopefully went off without a hitch" |
| 03:08.12 | sovereignty | lol j/k |
| 03:08.24 | sovereignty | I know what you mean |
| 03:09.02 | sovereignty | even though I'm new to aosp...i completely understand counter-reliability...if you know what i mean |
| 03:09.57 | sovereignty | stinebd: my hdd is getting less active...gonna switch to the other workspace and check it out |
| 03:10.28 | stinebd | that could just be java eating your ram. mmm... chips... |
| 03:10.36 | sovereignty | stinebd: it's still trucking along........ |
| 03:10.45 | sovereignty | lol.... chips sound good right now |
| 03:11.17 | sovereignty | what time zone are you in, exactly? |
| 03:11.45 | stinebd | US eastern, utc-4 |
| 03:12.05 | sovereignty | oh...eastern -4 ? wtf |
| 03:12.14 | stinebd | DST/summer time |
| 03:12.26 | sovereignty | ahhhhhhhh...i get it lol |
| 03:12.47 | sovereignty | i am gmt -6, but now -5 because os dst |
| 03:12.51 | sovereignty | duh |
| 03:13.30 | sovereignty | stinebd: .......Texas.....lol no i'm not a cowboy |
| 03:15.31 | sovereignty | although i did have to pull my brother-in-law's truck out with a tractor yesterday |
| 03:15.42 | sovereignty | doh |
| 03:18.37 | sovereignty | stinebd: you know it would be nice to append all the terminal echo's to a log file....or maybe it would be a big ass logfile |
| 03:18.42 | sovereignty | too big |
| 03:20.07 | HTCdemon | heh |
| 03:20.08 | HTCdemon | texas |
| 03:20.13 | HTCdemon | florida over here |
| 03:20.16 | sovereignty | wtf |
| 03:20.30 | sovereignty | well right now we all gotta worry about the oil |
| 03:20.57 | sovereignty | HTCdemon: you just pop in and out every once in a while? |
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| 03:37.13 | HTCdemon | sovereignty, unfortunantly yes |
| 03:37.40 | HTCdemon | even as late as it is im still busy -_- |
| 03:37.50 | sovereignty | me too |
| 03:38.07 | stinebd | sovereignty: i don't plan to modify the android build system at all |
| 03:38.57 | sovereignty | doing crap like...compiling xdandroid to apply to fixes....fixing my "friend's" computer.... crap |
| 03:40.07 | sovereignty | stinebd: just a honest suggestion....for times like this....but - it is going well so far |
| 03:41.33 | sovereignty | I need one of those t-shirts that say...."Fix your own damn computer"....or something like that ;) |
| 03:42.54 | sovereignty | geez...why does somebody that knows NOTHING about computers put a password on their BIOS and bootup |
| 03:44.04 | HTCdemon | some manufactures do that |
| 03:44.29 | sovereignty | no, it was put on by them |
| 03:44.33 | HTCdemon | infact for the most part all buisness pc's ive gotten were already locked down with a bios password |
| 03:44.33 | sovereignty | LMFAO |
| 03:44.35 | HTCdemon | oh |
| 03:44.57 | HTCdemon | nvm what i said then if they were the ones who put it on |
| 03:45.08 | sovereignty | neways...everyone knows how to get past a bios password, right? |
| 03:45.28 | HTCdemon | theres ussualy a master isnt there? |
| 03:45.37 | sovereignty | me |
| 03:45.44 | sovereignty | lol |
| 03:46.31 | HTCdemon | needs to make a fedora usb boot sometime soon |
| 03:46.45 | sovereignty | already cracked their password...they actually forgot what it was :O |
| 03:46.56 | sovereignty | :0 |
| 03:46.58 | sovereignty | wtf |
| 03:47.07 | HTCdemon | d-_-b --<( ... ) |
| 03:47.39 | sovereignty | does that mean I am talking to much and you are putting your headphones on? |
| 03:47.52 | HTCdemon | ....no |
| 03:48.02 | sovereignty | d-_-d |
| 03:48.11 | sovereignty | wut does that look like...lol |
| 03:48.29 | sovereignty | oh sorry d_-_b |
| 03:48.33 | sovereignty | crap |
| 03:48.40 | sovereignty | d-_-B |
| 03:48.45 | sovereignty | d-_-b |
| 03:48.49 | HTCdemon | lol |
| 03:48.49 | sovereignty | omg |
| 03:48.55 | sovereignty | that is hard to do |
| 03:48.56 | HTCdemon | although |
| 03:48.59 | HTCdemon | i am listening to this |
| 03:49.01 | HTCdemon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-CwnYUXuU |
| 03:49.22 | HTCdemon | cant be arsed to fix his np script |
| 03:50.18 | sovereignty | all my base are belong to you |
| 03:51.04 | HTCdemon | touhou <3 :3 |
| 03:52.02 | HTCdemon | now...back to figuring out what to do next... |
| 03:52.40 | sovereignty | I actually thought my sound card was screwing up when I went to that link |
| 03:52.41 | sovereignty | wtf |
| 03:57.10 | HTCdemon | lol |
| 03:57.32 | HTCdemon | not for everyone i suppose |
| 03:57.44 | HTCdemon | it keeps me up though >:D |
| 04:01.22 | sovereignty | I don't know why but it brought back memories of Contra from the '80s |
| 04:01.27 | sovereignty | weird |
| 04:01.49 | sovereignty | I wish I could run contra on my mobile without paying the price |
| 04:02.34 | HTCdemon | ahh your much older than me i suppose |
| 04:02.51 | HTCdemon | okay so maybe not much older...just a bit |
| 04:03.02 | HTCdemon | although i started my gaming life on the NES/Amiga |
| 04:04.40 | HTCdemon | needs to look at how fbdev was used on ubuntu.... |
| 04:07.29 | HTCdemon | well fbdev and tslib..... |
| 04:07.54 | HTCdemon | tslib im not so worried about persay...but i definantly want this to go smooth lol |
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| 04:21.52 | sovereignty | omfg |
| 04:23.15 | sovereignty | You said AMIGA ! |
| 04:23.50 | sovereignty | when my cousin had an amiga we believed we could hack into anything |
| 04:24.08 | sovereignty | well...truth being told...you get the picture |
| 04:24.32 | sovereignty | how old are you ?!? |
| 04:25.18 | sovereignty | well gtg |
| 04:25.21 | sovereignty | night |
| 04:28.09 | HTCdemon | sovereignty, 20 |
| 04:28.31 | HTCdemon | ahh bummer |
| 04:28.34 | HTCdemon | seems like i missed him |
| 04:28.51 | HTCdemon | now ill be the only one in here active in a channel of 101 people..... |
| 04:29.11 | sovereignty | 20? |
| 04:29.13 | HTCdemon | well actively talking*.....up until someone actually has a dev question |
| 04:29.16 | HTCdemon | oh heh |
| 04:29.20 | HTCdemon | yea 20 |
| 04:29.28 | sovereignty | ? your age? |
| 04:29.34 | HTCdemon | yes |
| 04:29.38 | sovereignty | oh damn |
| 04:29.48 | sovereignty | i'm a decade older than you... |
| 04:29.48 | HTCdemon | i started life playing retro ;P |
| 04:29.55 | sovereignty | how do you remember amiga? |
| 04:30.01 | HTCdemon | lemmings |
| 04:30.08 | HTCdemon | fav game on it |
| 04:30.17 | sovereignty | oh hell yeah |
| 04:30.34 | HTCdemon | and the fact it was the computer i could use lovely |
| 04:30.37 | sovereignty | but i didn't play it on amiga...played it on pc |
| 04:30.53 | sovereignty | ummmmmm...like 486 dx100 |
| 04:30.55 | sovereignty | i think |
| 04:31.02 | sovereignty | oh well |
| 04:31.18 | sovereignty | will be back on in a min....trying irc on ppc |
| 04:31.25 | sovereignty | if not back tomorrow |
| 04:31.29 | sovereignty | l8r |
| 04:31.43 | HTCdemon | alrighty |
| 04:31.45 | HTCdemon | cya man |
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| 11:27.23 | DJGonzo | Excuse me for barging in but is anyone currently working on the rhodium battery driver implementation? |
| 11:29.37 | NetRipper | i get the feeling there currently is no developer for the rhodium |
| 11:30.30 | NetRipper | although i might be wrong obviously, have only seen questions about rhodium, no answers yet :) |
| 11:33.45 | DJGonzo | there is someone that made a basic implementation |
| 11:34.06 | DJGonzo | maybe you guys can include it to the commit |
| 11:34.14 | DJGonzo | something is something |
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| 13:32.51 | LeTama | well, I don't know. I don't know exactly how it interacts with cpu |
| 13:33.06 | NetRipper | errr let me read |
| 13:33.37 | NetRipper | you got it in mail o rsomething? i dont see it on the mailing list website/archive |
| 13:34.22 | LeTama | ah, yes, the mail archive didn't get them |
| 13:34.23 | dcordes | hi NetRipper |
| 13:34.33 | dcordes | that explains it |
| 13:35.27 | dcordes | I'm wondering why majordomo doesn't host the archives directly for msm list |
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| 13:36.44 | dcordes | NetRipper, daniel asked for several things. if we tried to narrow down the problem, how we are booting linux, if haret was successful method to boot on other qualcomm soc devices... |
| 13:37.28 | dcordes | NetRipper, then he said wince amss might be a thing |
| 13:37.53 | dcordes | NetRipper, like the processor is 'programmed' differently on wince vs android amss |
| 13:38.16 | NetRipper | yea i was afraid of that |
| 13:38.31 | NetRipper | and that explains the difference in zImage usage |
| 13:38.56 | NetRipper | but the basics should still work, the exceptions we get now shoulcnt occur |
| 13:39.11 | dcordes | maybe you should throw that in |
| 13:39.50 | dcordes | yes that's what I said: on msm7* we never had strange problem like that. if linux booted you could run all binaries |
| 13:40.13 | dcordes | oh right. I was asking about qsd8250 vs qsd8250b |
| 13:40.43 | dcordes | daniel said he wasn't aware about b and asked how I thought about it. -it is in the wince hw info |
| 13:41.33 | dcordes | what about flashing nexus one amss to leo ? |
| 13:41.35 | LeTama | this b thing is really strange. 8250A was released after our Leo I think |
| 13:41.57 | dcordes | maybe then we have an A device ;) |
| 13:42.07 | NetRipper | wince says we have the B |
| 13:42.11 | dcordes | yes |
| 13:42.27 | LeTama | well, from what I see in the kernel, revA implies memory at 0x00000000 |
| 13:42.36 | NetRipper | the processor register itself, indicate sthe exact same revision as the nexus one processor |
| 13:42.40 | NetRipper | so the hardware should be the same |
| 13:42.45 | NetRipper | but could be that the microcode has differences |
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| 13:43.13 | NetRipper | but, that doesn't explain our problem in linux at all.. it affects certain instructions |
| 13:43.24 | NetRipper | but a push instruction is _very_ generic, and used plenty in the linux kernel itself |
| 13:43.29 | dcordes | NetRipper, what's the brickability level flashing radio rom from different device ? |
| 13:43.36 | NetRipper | high |
| 13:43.49 | LeTama | netripper, it's not only push, it happens in multiple locations |
| 13:44.03 | dcordes | LeTama, is that known on the list ? |
| 13:44.04 | NetRipper | LeTama, but they are all basic instructions that work otherwise |
| 13:44.48 | dcordes | Ok .. I suppose there could be something different between what WinCE |
| 13:44.48 | dcordes | expects, and what Linux expect. Do you know if this method has been used |
| 13:44.48 | dcordes | successfully on other HTC phones with Qualcomm SoC's ? |
| 13:45.26 | dcordes | It might be that the baseband processor is running different code |
| 13:45.27 | dcordes | between the Nexus One and the Leo (i.e. different modem images), and |
| 13:45.27 | dcordes | that code is programming the SoC differently between the two. Or it |
| 13:45.27 | dcordes | could be a bootloader thing, does the Leo have fastboot ? |
| 13:45.36 | NetRipper | you cannot flash nexus one amss to the leo.. different hardware and gpio's etc. maybe different locations on the nand and incompatible oemsbl or spl |
| 13:45.46 | dcordes | ok |
| 13:46.04 | NetRipper | at least, i wouldn't try it without having JTAG ability :) |
| 13:46.26 | NetRipper | yes the baseband processor is running differnet code between leo and nexus one |
| 13:46.30 | NetRipper | as that's the amss |
| 13:46.36 | NetRipper | or is this a pste form the mail? |
| 13:46.41 | NetRipper | paste from* |
| 13:46.51 | dcordes | yes from daniel. |
| 13:46.51 | NetRipper | i think you already know what im telling now :P |
| 13:46.54 | NetRipper | ok ;) |
| 13:47.03 | LeTama | netripper, agreed, these instructions shouldn't crash |
| 13:47.16 | LeTama | dcordes, I don't know if it was written on list |
| 13:47.27 | NetRipper | i really doubt the problem is on instruction-level |
| 13:47.42 | LeTama | probably not |
| 13:47.57 | dcordes | NetRipper, you are thinking the cause is something else and the illegal instructions is just the effect of that? |
| 13:48.05 | NetRipper | dcordes, yes |
| 13:48.20 | dcordes | so daniel's suspicion would make sense |
| 13:48.36 | NetRipper | did any o fyou try to enable OABI compatiblity in the kernel? |
| 13:48.42 | LeTama | I did |
| 13:48.46 | NetRipper | no change? |
| 13:48.47 | LeTama | no change |
| 13:48.52 | NetRipper | ok |
| 13:49.22 | dcordes | what about these strange cpu flags in system type I already tried |
| 13:49.42 | dcordes | I mean it should no effect other than slowdown with all combinations |
| 13:49.48 | NetRipper | i'm seeing some strange behaviour in haret as well, but i have no clue if it's related... it has to do with the MMU |
| 13:50.00 | LeTama | I noticed two "weird" things: we're crashing often with thumb2 around |
| 13:50.43 | LeTama | and often crashes near ffff0500 that should be interrupt vectors if I'm not wrong |
| 13:51.01 | LeTama | it could be bad luck |
| 13:51.19 | dcordes | I heard some people saying irq in given context |
| 13:51.29 | dcordes | iirc |
| 13:52.07 | dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo_IRQ is this based on spl information ? |
| 13:53.38 | NetRipper | hm |
| 13:54.05 | NetRipper | that's an interesting statement letama |
| 13:55.14 | LeTama | well, can't be positive 100% on the 0xFFFF0500 as it happened a lot with gcc 4.5.0 that I'm not really trusting right now |
| 13:56.09 | LeTama | thumb2 instructions is another story. |
| 13:57.13 | LeTama | the fact that the arm-v4 libc dlls helped with crashes in some of my tests could put some fuel on this |
| 13:57.40 | LeTama | but thumb2 should work, as is. |
| 13:57.56 | LeTama | do you know if CE is using thumb2 compiler ? |
| 13:59.46 | NetRipper | no i dont think thumb is used anywhere in CE (kernel) |
| 13:59.50 | NetRipper | maybe in specific apps |
| 14:01.09 | LeTama | hum, so if they don't use thumb, no way we could see a bug on thumb2 in CE |
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| 14:02.17 | dcordes | LeTama, does the working busybox use any thumb? |
| 14:03.45 | LeTama | dcordes, it should, let me check how it was compiled |
| 14:08.04 | LeTama | I can't check, I have to rebuild it |
| 14:08.21 | LeTama | but it's probably build with armv7 flags and thumb2 |
| 14:08.30 | LeTama | err built |
| 14:12.54 | LeTama | anyway, as it's quite random, it could be something completely different, like power or clock |
| 14:13.16 | dcordes | arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -mlittle-endian -marm -mabi=aapcs-linux |
| 14:13.16 | dcordes | -mno-thumb-interwork -march=armv7-a -msoft-float -Uarm -g -o init init.c |
| 14:13.22 | dcordes | http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-May/000087.html |
| 14:14.31 | LeTama | yes, that's what I used for my helloworld/init. Not 100% sure I have the same options for busybox, but probably. |
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| 14:16.00 | LeTama | I should try to redo all now that I know a bit more about arm |
| 14:17.11 | LeTama | dcordes, by the way, I tested a stripped down kernel also, without drivers and framebuffer. it crashes too |
| 14:18.02 | LeTama | and regarding haret, I checked source code, I didn't see anything specifically done. |
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| 14:18.40 | NetRipper | dcordes, i'm unable to edit the toolchain wiki page on htc-linux.org, does it require special permissions? (the error is unclear, something about a php variable) |
| 14:19.04 | LeTama | basically, haret loads the kernel in memory, disable mmu, move it to the right physical location, flush caches and start kernel |
| 14:19.05 | dcordes | NetRipper, it seems like the recaptcha wiki plugin is broken |
| 14:19.35 | NetRipper | dcordes, i also thought about adding a wiki page that lists all developers that are in here, and on which devices they have previoulsy worked, and what devices they are currently working on, what do you think |
| 14:19.48 | NetRipper | LeTama, corect |
| 14:19.49 | dcordes | sounds good |
| 14:20.35 | dcordes | NetRipper, I'll send a mail ellis about captcha problem |
| 14:21.01 | LeTama | dcordes, I let you go forward with |
| 14:21.22 | LeTama | err with Daniel regarding testing barebone kernel and haret stuff |
| 14:21.31 | NetRipper | dcordes, oki |
| 14:22.18 | dcordes | hm it would be nice if NetRipper could drop in with very good knowledge of haret guts |
| 14:22.32 | NetRipper | are there any haret questions then? |
| 14:23.08 | dcordes | I guess plenty on the list side :) not everybody knows it and we can't assume possible helpers read all the documentation |
| 14:23.51 | dcordes | it would be good to subscribe either way |
| 14:24.06 | NetRipper | i havent registered to that mailing list because i'm afraid to be spammed too much |
| 14:24.29 | NetRipper | will need to setup rules to make the mail go into a specific folder or so |
| 14:24.54 | LeTama | netripper, so far, volume is quite low |
| 14:26.04 | dcordes | NetRipper, http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-arm-msm it is only msm specific. there was some more general stuff regarding defconfigs recently but I guess that's not regular |
| 14:26.13 | dcordes | NetRipper, personally I use an extra email for all ml now |
| 14:28.03 | NetRipper | what does 'vger' stand for? |
| 14:29.09 | dcordes | no idea. bet majordomo knows |
| 14:29.18 | NetRipper | :) |
| 14:29.38 | dcordes | also been wondering |
| 14:30.30 | NetRipper | maybe just the servers name |
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| 14:32.22 | Cass | i think vger was the name of teh computer it was stored on when first made, something to do with star trek |
| 14:37.11 | dcordes | apt, what is v'ger |
| 14:37.12 | apt | i guess v'ger is is a character in the fictional Star Trek universe. (Vejur in the novelization by Gene Roddenberry) |
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| 15:01.58 | NetRipper | ah :) |
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| 15:16.03 | Cass | looking at the book rebel code, vger was what you saw when the voyager spaceship flew past and some letters scuffed off and vger was what was saw .. i needed to know the real answer, knew i seen it somewhere Dave Miller got an old computer that was at rutgers for the task and it was named vger :) |
| 15:27.01 | dcordes | Cass, rutgers? |
| 15:29.18 | Cass | company i guess dave worked at |
| 15:29.44 | Cass | its a .edu so i guess uni |
| 15:30.01 | Cass | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_S._Miller |
| 15:30.05 | Cass | yep a uni |
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| 15:53.00 | sovereignty | stinebd: you here right now? |
| 15:56.34 | [acl] | so i got an evo in front of me and this thing is slow !!!! .. i love sense and all but its really killing the phone |
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| 16:04.26 | Cass | sounds weird as sense on my Legend is fast |
| 16:04.41 | Cass | runaway proc methinks |
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| 16:08.43 | [acl] | Legend isnt 800 x 480 pixel right ? |
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| 16:13.19 | Cass | no its 320 by something |
| 16:13.33 | Cass | 320x480 |
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| 16:14.35 | Cass | its also not a snapdragon .. only 600mhz |
| 16:14.57 | Cass | but still it flies .. sense does not hold it back at all |
| 16:15.10 | Cass | id expect the evo to do at leas the same |
| 16:17.49 | [acl] | maybe i was hoping it would be faster |
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| 16:18.26 | Cass | depends on what you mean by slow .. the screen should not paint and the workspaces should switch the instant you swype |
| 16:18.46 | Cass | things happen when i click on an icon .. no lag as i can see |
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| 16:19.11 | Cass | i do notice the phone slows down when i have around 15 apps open but once killed its back to normal |
| 16:19.19 | Cass | but thats not a sense thing |
| 16:22.54 | [acl] | plus the clock dont flip .. omg this is horrible. |
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| 16:25.07 | Cass | yeah you got something wrong with that .. mine flips speedily |
| 16:25.25 | Cass | install a tast manager and have alook at whats going on undderneath |
| 16:25.32 | Cass | task* |
| 16:27.30 | Cass | saying that .. its not the same type of animation on the flip that the hd2 has .. its more instant flip instead of a rolodex type animation |
| 16:27.58 | [acl] | This looks like the number just changes |
| 16:28.13 | [acl] | but then again it looks like all the high res phones dont flip. Im looking it up now |
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| 16:28.53 | Cass | yeah you could be right on the number change and not animated .. never noticed te detail before .. |
| 16:29.08 | Cass | just saw it flip when i unlocked the screen .. |
| 16:29.18 | Cass | not really hd2 like at all |
| 16:29.31 | Cass | anyways good luck with it .. im off for beer :D |
| 16:29.39 | [acl] | enjoy |
| 16:29.55 | Cass | will do .. its a rare day here the sun is out :) later !! |
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| 16:33.37 | Kensan | dcordes: hey |
| 16:33.47 | dcordes | hi Kensan |
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| 16:34.52 | Kensan | dcordes: how are you? I read you run into some trouble the other day. Everything back to normal? |
| 16:35.12 | dcordes | yes all good |
| 16:35.24 | dcordes | you? how's the nexus ? |
| 16:35.52 | Kensan | dcordes: booting :) |
| 16:36.04 | Kensan | dcordes: no progress, was busy with other stuff |
| 16:36.14 | Kensan | dcordes: hardware breaking all over :/ |
| 16:36.39 | dcordes | oh your workstation broken? |
| 16:37.05 | Kensan | dcordes: I talked to mickeyl yesterday about kernel trees etc because he will probably get contracted to put FSO on the Nexus. |
| 16:37.23 | Kensan | dcordes: no, server issues at work. |
| 16:37.52 | dcordes | I see. that's interesting with contractor |
| 16:38.43 | Kensan | dcordes: We have to agree what kernel tree we base our work on |
| 16:39.17 | dcordes | kernel.org ? |
| 16:39.36 | Kensan | dcordes: probably android's htc-msm-2.6.32 ... |
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| 16:39.58 | dcordes | did you see the basic qsd support in mainline? the qualcomm guys offered to include our machines. |
| 16:40.03 | Kensan | dcordes: I think the contractors would like working code before support hits mainline ;) |
| 16:40.09 | Kensan | dcordes: yes |
| 16:40.28 | dcordes | unfortunately the ml posts are not visible in any archives yet |
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| 16:40.41 | Kensan | dcordes: but we cannot really port the drivers because of the wakelock/suspend-blocker/what's-the-mechanis-called-this-week issue :/ |
| 16:40.59 | Kensan | dcordes: I am subscribed to the arm-msm ml too. |
| 16:41.08 | dcordes | ok so you've seen it |
| 16:41.10 | Kensan | lurking in the background |
| 16:41.34 | dcordes | is the contractor secret? |
| 16:42.24 | Kensan | dcordes: no I don't know. mickeyl said sometihng about NDA and that they wont say what they want to do with FSO on the nexus before they release. |
| 16:42.29 | Kensan | but that's all fair game I think. |
| 16:43.04 | Kensan | I don't care what they want with FSO on the nexus. As long as they pay for doing the port thats fine. |
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| 16:44.30 | dcordes | Kensan, so you are potential business partner? :) |
| 16:45.22 | Kensan | dcordes: well not really. I will gladly help but in my spare time and not as a subcontractor of mickey ;) |
| 16:45.56 | Kensan | dcordes: would be cool to get leo/nexus one support into mainline. |
| 16:46.43 | Kensan | dcordes: but I don't know what that would encompas and how we could test it. |
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| 16:54.07 | Vladishee | installation on what smartphone is the easiest? |
| 16:54.35 | dcordes | Vladishee, depends on what you want to install |
| 16:55.53 | Vladishee | and what i can want? xD |
| 16:57.18 | babijoee | hello world anyone watching world cup? |
| 16:57.36 | hamagc | morning babijoee! who's winning? |
| 16:58.27 | Kensan | dcordes: would you also be willing to help out mickey? |
| 16:59.51 | dcordes | Kensan, sure would like to help. but since I don't have the device it seems difficult |
| 17:00.05 | dcordes | if we ever solve the leo problems I will run fso on it |
| 17:00.09 | babijoee | hamagc: South Africa |
| 17:00.47 | babijoee | ping: stinebd |
| 17:01.19 | dcordes | Kensan, moving localhost to the out. bbiab |
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| 17:04.08 | hamagc | SA? wow! |
| 17:04.24 | babijoee | yeah |
| 17:04.55 | mc44 | babijoee: are you watching on a time delay? ;p |
| 17:05.02 | babijoee | ummmm |
| 17:05.09 | babijoee | whats the score for you? |
| 17:05.15 | mc44 | it finished about an hour ago |
| 17:05.20 | babijoee | ooo |
| 17:05.25 | babijoee | i'm not watching it live :p |
| 17:05.41 | babijoee | who won? |
| 17:06.08 | phh | (what the hell are you talking about ?) |
| 17:06.30 | babijoee | world cup |
| 17:06.31 | JesusFreak316 | Soccer, or as most of you guys say, football. :) |
| 17:06.31 | babijoee | FIFA |
| 17:06.57 | phh | ah. the 22 peoples running for one ball ? |
| 17:07.18 | JesusFreak316 | You know you can make any sport sound dumb that way. |
| 17:07.30 | phh | all sports sound dump |
| 17:07.36 | babijoee | eeeeek |
| 17:07.42 | JesusFreak316 | Well then... |
| 17:07.43 | hamagc | O.o |
| 17:07.57 | babijoee | unless its being played by the little green android |
| 17:08.03 | JesusFreak316 | In other news, phh has been kicked out of the xdandroid project. |
| 17:08.13 | phh | JesusFreak316: oh cool. |
| 17:08.41 | JesusFreak316 | haha |
| 17:08.41 | phh | I'll have some vacations then :p |
| 17:09.23 | babijoee | i'm on holidays atm :) |
| 17:10.20 | phh | I'll have years of holidays in three months. |
| 17:10.20 | babijoee | ooo |
| 17:10.20 | babijoee | you graduating?? |
| 17:10.50 | phh | no, in france it's a weird system. |
| 17:11.16 | phh | you'll have to fight two or three years to be one of the best and get a good school which will give you good degrees |
| 17:11.58 | phh | but once you're in those school, you've got pretty much nothing to do. perhaps go to lectures, but that's it. |
| 17:12.17 | JesusFreak316 | Anyways, I actually got on here for a reason, believe it or not. I was trying this system.sqsh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6768258&postcount=8086 for hw3d on 2.1 but after it initializes android.init (I believe) it loops "request_suspend_state" indefinitely. Is there any progress on adding hw3d to stinebd's aosp build? |
| 17:14.02 | JesusFreak316 | phh: So you're saying you do all your work to get in school, then once you're in you do nothing? Interesting. |
| 17:14.50 | CazH | phh, who updates the apn's? |
| 17:15.07 | babijoee | i've added the hw3d into AOSP but it doesn't work properly |
| 17:15.36 | babijoee | CazH: last one i remmeber was based on cyanogens APN list |
| 17:15.42 | JesusFreak316 | Oh, did it break with the transition to 2.1? |
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| 17:16.06 | babijoee | we never had hw3d properly working in the first place right phh? |
| 17:16.13 | CazH | babijoee, okay, but it doesn't have any danish apn :) |
| 17:16.19 | babijoee | hahaha |
| 17:16.38 | |Jeroen| | is there acutaly any use to hw3d other then games ? |
| 17:16.51 | babijoee | you'll have to manually add it |
| 17:16.56 | babijoee | or until someone does |
| 17:16.57 | babijoee | :p |
| 17:17.01 | CazH | And in my search for my own settings I found a list the has pretty much all the danish providers |
| 17:17.08 | babijoee | its quite a pain to manually input so many APNS |
| 17:17.18 | CazH | Oh :P |
| 17:17.28 | babijoee | yeah |
| 17:17.34 | babijoee | once i added around 50 |
| 17:17.39 | babijoee | took me soooooooooo long |
| 17:17.43 | CazH | It's not really a problem for me, I know my apn by heart now :P |
| 17:17.44 | CazH | Hehe |
| 17:17.50 | JesusFreak316 | I don't think so, but I mainly use Android for games and other things that aren't very available in WM. So... |
| 17:17.53 | Kensan | dcordes-hd2: I think we could all profit when collaborating on htcleo and nexus one support. |
| 17:18.12 | phh | JesusFreak316: that's how it works in france. |
| 17:18.15 | phh | JesusFreak316: interesting uh ? |
| 17:18.20 | JesusFreak316 | Very |
| 17:18.49 | babijoee | hw3d in donut was amazing |
| 17:19.06 | CazH | babijoee, well there are only 4 different sets of apn's in denmark |
| 17:19.14 | CazH | So it's not that many :) |
| 17:19.15 | babijoee | yeah |
| 17:19.17 | babijoee | ah k |
| 17:19.24 | JesusFreak316 | I didn't have to try too hard to get into my university, but I'm working my tail off now in engineering. |
| 17:19.24 | phh | CazH: wow |
| 17:19.29 | phh | i'd say there are some dozens in france. |
| 17:19.41 | phh | afaik orange fr has at least 4 APN |
| 17:19.53 | babijoee | theres only like 6-7 major in aus |
| 17:20.16 | phh | and we have MVNOs |
| 17:20.21 | CazH | phh there are more providers but they all run on the same 4 networks and share settings depending on which network they run on |
| 17:20.25 | babijoee | MNVO? |
| 17:20.33 | phh | babijoee: virtual network |
| 17:20.34 | CazH | phh, damm that many |
| 17:20.37 | phh | use other's providers network |
| 17:20.46 | phh | CazH: they partly share settings. |
| 17:20.54 | phh | for my provider, mms settings are the same |
| 17:20.58 | phh | but not web ones |
| 17:21.25 | babijoee | i need to learn how to use GIT :p |
| 17:21.51 | CazH | for web it seems all providers just wan't APN, MMC, MNC and apn type here in denmark |
| 17:22.05 | babijoee | i can start pushing more stuff into AOSP and rootfs |
| 17:22.06 | babijoee | :) |
| 17:22.11 | CazH | and there are only 4 different sets of that :) |
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| 17:22.51 | JesusFreak316 | babijoee: I think that would be good; It makes updates more exciting. |
| 17:23.09 | babijoee | JesusFreak316: definately |
| 17:23.13 | CazH | MMS isn't working in xdandroid right? |
| 17:23.23 | babijoee | i hate adding things separately everytime |
| 17:23.26 | phh | CazH: it works if mms apn = web apn |
| 17:23.28 | phh | I think |
| 17:23.43 | JesusFreak316 | So, what is broken about hw3d in 2.1? |
| 17:24.07 | [acl] | JesusFreak316: can of worms you just opened up |
| 17:24.08 | babijoee | uhhh |
| 17:24.09 | dcordes-hd2 | Kensan sorry hat to grab keyboard. yes we could cooperate a lot. but regarding the phone functionalities we have some differences of course |
| 17:24.10 | CazH | but if they are different you need to change apn depending on what you wan't, net or mms? :S |
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| 17:24.30 | JesusFreak316 | haha |
| 17:25.17 | babijoee | i dont think its broken |
| 17:25.21 | babijoee | just not implemented |
| 17:25.26 | stinebd | phh, babijoee: mind if i pm you both quick? |
| 17:25.29 | babijoee | and not optimised |
| 17:25.31 | JesusFreak316 | Well, I have to mow my yard, gotta keep the house looking nice. |
| 17:25.36 | phh | stinebd: np |
| 17:25.37 | babijoee | go for it stinebd |
| 17:25.38 | babijoee | :) |
| 17:25.40 | ToAsTcfh | phh: lol i made mod status |
| 17:25.48 | JesusFreak316 | I thought you said you tried adding it but it didn't work? |
| 17:26.05 | babijoee | ToAsTcfh: on XDA? |
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| 17:26.16 | ToAsTcfh | phh: yes sir |
| 17:26.26 | ToAsTcfh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1561342 |
| 17:26.55 | Kensan | dcordes-hd2: yeah sure |
| 17:27.10 | babijoee | i applied for raph-android section |
| 17:28.01 | babijoee | JesusFreak316: i did it works as the boot animation stutters |
| 17:28.02 | ToAsTcfh | phh: also my kernel source for the evo only works on I/O devices. wont work on the ones released by sprint :/ |
| 17:28.18 | babijoee | and playing some 3d games works |
| 17:28.21 | babijoee | but is slow |
| 17:28.56 | babijoee | ToAsTcfh: do you remmeber if XDA will notify you if you dont become a mod? |
| 17:29.07 | babijoee | or is the process still going? |
| 17:29.18 | JesusFreak316 | Okay, remember I'm always available to be a testing guinea pig. Just shoot me a pm. And I really am mowing now. :) |
| 17:29.32 | babijoee | haha |
| 17:31.35 | ToAsTcfh | <babijoee> im guessing im already a mod. have thread tools and such |
| 17:32.42 | babijoee | JesusFreak316: nps |
| 17:32.48 | babijoee | yeah =/ |
| 17:32.57 | babijoee | i want moderator power :p |
| 17:33.35 | ToAsTcfh | <babijoee> i applied like 4 months ago for the cdma hero section. i got denied because the already had a forum mod. but they just got back to me on my request so yeah i assume it takes a good minute |
| 17:34.17 | babijoee | lol |
| 17:34.28 | babijoee | i dont know if anyone is moderating the raph-android section |
| 17:34.50 | babijoee | ah k |
| 17:34.53 | babijoee | good to know |
| 17:36.10 | sovereignty | stinebd: I tried "repo forall -c git checkout eclair" and it got worse. i just init the eclair branch and am syncing now to try that |
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| 17:37.33 | sovereignty | hmm...don't know if it is my network having problems...first couldn't find gitorious.org and now unable to look up android.git.kernel.org |
| 17:37.40 | stinebd | sovereignty: ok. if possible, we'd like to keep xdandroid talk in the new #xdandroid channel. |
| 17:37.49 | sovereignty | switching back to wired ethernet |
| 17:38.06 | sovereignty | stinebd: ok. was not aware |
| 17:38.33 | stinebd | sovereignty: we're just getting it started now ;) |
| 17:38.56 | sovereignty | stinebd: ok |
| 17:39.01 | sovereignty | thx for letting me know |
| 17:39.04 | babijoee | i'll update xdandroid thread |
| 17:39.59 | [acl] | stinebd: Will there be chat logs? i love to read up |
| 17:40.17 | stinebd | [acl]: there will be, yes |
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| 18:33.57 | tmzt | dcordes-hd2: which machines? which qualcomm guys? :) |
| 18:43.24 | dcordes-hd2 | hd2, nexus and daniel, david on linux-arm-msm list |
| 18:46.21 | dcordes-hd2 | of course in caseof leo there is not much we can add now |
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| 19:20.17 | gauner1986 | hi |
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| 19:40.41 | NetRipper | dcordes-hd2, can you forward me the last few mails about the subject? i'm subscribed now but there's a gap between the web archive and realtime :) |
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| 19:43.23 | tmzt | okay, I'm subscribed too now |
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| 19:44.34 | NetRipper | anyone here working on the MSM7k? anyone succeed in overclocking the msm7k above 528mhz? |
| 19:45.47 | JesusFreak3161 | You mean like on the Touch Pro? |
| 19:46.04 | JesusFreak3161 | Those overclock quite well. |
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| 19:47.10 | dcordes-hd2 | touch pro is msm7ka |
| 19:47.55 | dcordes-hd2 | netripper, yes will do |
| 19:49.37 | NetRipper | JesusFreak316, yes |
| 19:49.41 | NetRipper | JesusFreak316, they do? |
| 19:49.49 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 19:49.56 | phh | NetRipper: some people go up to ~ 800MHz |
| 19:49.57 | gauner1986 | it's nice that LeTama got usbnet working |
| 19:50.02 | NetRipper | JesusFreak316, can you tell me in which kernel tree they overclocked the msm7ka? |
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| 19:50.05 | NetRipper | phh, nice |
| 19:50.19 | NetRipper | in the ltg tree? |
| 19:50.23 | phh | na gitorious |
| 19:50.24 | JesusFreak316 | just download the latest zImage from glemsom. |
| 19:50.37 | gauner1986 | i got my intel core i7 overclocked from 2,67 to 3,8 ghz *yay* |
| 19:50.38 | NetRipper | i want thee source JesusFreak316 :) |
| 19:50.38 | phh | JesusFreak316: I think he wants sourcesc :p |
| 19:50.47 | phh | NetRipper: but hum why ? |
| 19:50.48 | JesusFreak316 | Can't help you there. :P |
| 19:50.57 | NetRipper | phh, might try to see if i can overclock in wince |
| 19:51.13 | JesusFreak316 | I've never been able to oc in WM. |
| 19:51.17 | phh | NetRipper: I did a thread for that, with some haret stuff which theorically works |
| 19:51.24 | NetRipper | phh, nice |
| 19:51.26 | phh | in rhodium thread |
| 19:51.40 | phh | but I never tested it, and people reports it does nothing. |
| 19:51.56 | phh | (only one person tested it on #xda-devs and seemed to report actual overclocking ..) |
| 19:51.58 | NetRipper | can you link me both the gitorious project and the thread? |
| 19:52.08 | phh | yup |
| 19:52.12 | NetRipper | thanks |
| 19:53.36 | phh | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.27/arch/arm/mach-msm/acpuclock.c |
| 19:54.04 | phh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6619928 |
| 19:54.14 | JesusFreak316 | I would LOVE overclocking in WM that works as well as in android. My emulators need a boost. :) |
| 19:54.45 | NetRipper | phh, thanks |
| 19:55.11 | phh | NetRipper: my haret stuff only overclocks at ~ 650MHz |
| 19:55.33 | phh | higher frequencies need to change cpu registers too, and I'm not sure I want to try to do that without good wince knowledge. |
| 19:56.12 | JesusFreak316 | Still, 650 is still pretty good. |
| 19:56.36 | sovereignty | phh: overclocking in wm??? |
| 19:56.41 | phh | sovereignty: why not ? |
| 19:56.58 | sovereignty | phh: well that wasn't the question...i would like to try |
| 19:57.06 | phh | see the link ? :p |
| 19:57.10 | sovereignty | i didn't know anybody pulled it off |
| 19:57.26 | sovereignty | i know it's working in xdandroid |
| 19:57.50 | phh | the xda link I gave is not for xdandroid !? |
| 19:58.25 | sovereignty | phh: we're getting our wires crossed :P |
| 19:58.28 | sovereignty | lol |
| 19:58.38 | NetRipper | phh, i don't worry much about changing cpu registers cos 1) i dont care if i brick the device and 2) cold boot should reset any values |
| 19:59.00 | phh | NetRipper: it's more something about I don't know what happens when. |
| 19:59.42 | NetRipper | phh, but the acpuclock.c has the table up to 600mhz it seems, and it says 7x27.. so that probably doesn't work on 7x01a |
| 20:00.01 | phh | NetRipper: whose acpuclock.c ? |
| 20:00.12 | phh | anyway yes 7x27's official speed is 600MHz |
| 20:00.19 | NetRipper | the one you pasted |
| 20:00.28 | phh | oops ? |
| 20:00.42 | NetRipper | it doesn't have overclock values, only the regular ones |
| 20:01.02 | phh | see oc_freq_khz kernel option ? :p |
| 20:01.33 | NetRipper | oops. |
| 20:01.34 | NetRipper | :) |
| 20:01.42 | phh | np :p |
| 20:05.10 | tmzt | they moved gpio support to drivers/gpio, that's good |
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| 20:08.28 | NetRipper | man the touch pro has a small screen compared to the hd2 :P |
| 20:10.42 | stinebd | and that disgusting medium resolution |
| 20:10.57 | JesusFreak316 | Stop rubbing it in, jerks. |
| 20:11.01 | JesusFreak316 | :) |
| 20:11.29 | NetRipper | lol |
| 20:11.33 | phh | stinebd: medium ? |
| 20:11.34 | phh | hum |
| 20:11.56 | phh | stinebd: what is most HTC android phones' resolution then ? :p |
| 20:11.57 | [acl] | lol |
| 20:12.06 | stinebd | phh: low |
| 20:12.22 | phh | what is vogue's resolution then ? |
| 20:12.32 | stinebd | 4ppi |
| 20:12.35 | NetRipper | 640x480 isn't bad given the small dimensions of the touch pro |
| 20:12.42 | phh | what is the nintendo DS' resolution then ? |
| 20:12.48 | stinebd | 2ipp |
| 20:12.51 | phh | NetRipper: and transflective ! :p |
| 20:12.56 | JesusFreak316 | 256x192 |
| 20:12.59 | NetRipper | transwhat? |
| 20:13.03 | phh | stinebd: what is my previous phone' resolution that can do 128x96 ? :p |
| 20:13.15 | stinebd | phh: so easy a caveman can do it |
| 20:13.17 | JesusFreak316 | is the DS's resolution. |
| 20:13.18 | phh | NetRipper: you can still read it at full sun power |
| 20:13.23 | phh | JesusFreak316: I know :p |
| 20:13.45 | JesusFreak316 | I can't wait for the 3ds. ;) |
| 20:13.52 | NetRipper | phh, hm never tried that |
| 20:14.04 | phh | NetRipper: it's quite impressive to see |
| 20:14.13 | NetRipper | i'll try tomorrow if the sun shines |
| 20:14.16 | phh | the screen has to be right in front of the sun |
| 20:14.36 | JesusFreak316 | What screen? |
| 20:14.37 | phh | NetRipper: you can set backlight to minimum to see how good it is :p |
| 20:14.44 | phh | JesusFreak316: TP |
| 20:14.59 | phh | well any cellphone's transflective screen |
| 20:15.12 | NetRipper | still need to charge it to >50% and need to flash a rom before i can use it |
| 20:15.13 | JesusFreak316 | In the sun? Always sucked for me. I do <3 the dpi though. |
| 20:15.34 | NetRipper | it's got a non-functional rom now |
| 20:16.26 | phh | JesusFreak316: you were not right in front of the sun then. |
| 20:16.30 | phh | (or raphal has different panel than diamond.) |
| 20:16.48 | phh | (and my liquid got it too <3) |
| 20:17.20 | stinebd | most of us smartphone nerds aren't out in the sun enough for it to matter |
| 20:17.26 | JesusFreak316 | So, you put it on minimum brightness and walk outside? |
| 20:17.35 | JesusFreak316 | stinedbd: qft! |
| 20:17.46 | phh | JesusFreak316: not really, I do that only when i'm low on battery |
| 20:17.53 | phh | since you must be really right in front of the sun |
| 20:18.21 | dcordes-hd2 | msm gpiolib |
| 20:18.21 | phh | (without hiding the sun from it /o\) |
| 20:18.21 | JesusFreak316 | I got nothing better to do; I'll try it. |
| 20:19.15 | phh | when it's working, you can barely notice colors btw |
| 20:19.35 | JesusFreak316 | i guess it is pretty good. Alot of glare though; I bet some polarized glasses would help. |
| 20:19.50 | phh | my rhod doesn't have such a feature :( |
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| 20:28.23 | dmyze | I installed the update as suggested by overwriting files and deleting one, but now my phone won't let me install anything, markeplace programs don't install |
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| 20:29.37 | tmzt | dcordes-hd2: so what tree is xdandroid/glemsom built from? |
| 20:29.39 | tmzt | what branch |
| 20:30.16 | dmyze | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.45 | JesusFreak316 | In thebrilliantmistake's thread? |
| 20:31.48 | dmyze | babijoee's thread I think, I got it from the project android site |
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| 20:32.47 | JesusFreak316 | I don't think they posted any cabs, just some archives. Why are you using 2.0.1 instead of 2.1? |
| 20:32.56 | dcordes-hd2 | tmzt I'm on hd2 now. check wiki kernel page for gitorious |
| 20:33.02 | dmyze | the 2.1 cab wouldn't install |
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| 20:33.30 | dmyze | I bet I did a 2.1 update on a 2.0.1 install. |
| 20:34.36 | JesusFreak316 | I recommend this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5420781#post5420781 |
| 20:35.34 | dmyze | Can I just uninstall it from windows or do I have to do somthing manually? |
| 20:36.04 | JesusFreak316 | Just download his newest rar, extract it to the root of your storage card, delete data.img, then start auto-setup.exe and choose your device. |
| 20:36.16 | JesusFreak316 | You have to delete the files manually. |
| 20:36.34 | JesusFreak316 | You should be able to jsut overwrite everything. |
| 20:37.31 | [acl] | haha .. army of sense ui phones |
| 20:39.35 | JesusFreak316 | The only file you'll have to delete is data.img |
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| 21:37.17 | tmzt | root@shini:~# cp /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static /target/usr/bin/ |
| 21:37.18 | tmzt | root@shini:~# chroot /target |
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| 23:14.18 | dcordes | tmzt, git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm.git htc-msm-2.6.27 |
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| 23:40.59 | tmzt | dcordes-hd2: okay, I guess I'll have to use the android defconfig as the gnulinux seems to be misisng |
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| 23:45.13 | makkonen | ~usb_function_switch |
| 23:45.14 | apt | hmm... usb_function_switch is /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
| 23:49.46 | DJGonzo | Hello |