IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100606

00:00.22vpeezyi have a touch pro 2 verizon phone and im wondering which android build to get?  do i download the app from this url?   http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=114400
00:03.07IncognitoManvpeezy, get the rhodium android build from xda
00:03.18IncognitoManjust look in the android development section
00:03.46vpeezyk
00:05.38vpeezyso if a new build comes out is there anything like sashimi to save all the settings and apps or would i just start from scratch when i update to new build of android rom?
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03:09.28vpeezyhello everyone finally got my verizon touch pro 2 running android.
03:09.55vpeezyruns smoother than mighty rom lol
03:15.34msd18nice
03:16.17vpeezyonly problem is the keypad backlight and the hard buttons backlights do not work.
03:20.17msd18and u call that smoothly?
03:21.04vpeezybacklight on keyboard is quite minor lol.  i mean i am fiddling with it in the dark as to not wake the wifey but i have monitor to provide light lol!
03:21.25msd18lol
03:23.12vpeezyi don't see whats so great about android os. i can't find anything to customize the interface and homescreen. no apps like cookie's home screen or maxsense ui or wad or spb mobile shell?
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03:58.43mikhailhello
03:59.11mikhailvshi
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05:53.51AndroUserhello everyone
05:54.37AndroUser:-)
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06:47.55mcbridemattanyone know how to send uevents from the kernel?
07:06.46makkonen~ramconsole
07:06.48aptwell, ramconsole is pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000
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07:40.47makkonenphh: patch to bring raph500 (somewhat) up to date -- or at least not immediately crashing on boot (it does use 2 SMI + 1 EBI, it just needed some things in Kconfig etc before it would compile correctly): http://files.androidonhtc.com/files/makkonen/transient/0001-Bring-RAPH500-up-to-date.patch
07:41.10makkonenhopefully that method of making a patch can be parsed on your end. I remember having trouble with that last time I made a patch.
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08:56.17phhmakkonen: you successfully added SMI memory as user memory ?
08:56.18phhdamn.
08:57.10phhanyway I didn't realizee that raph500 wasn't maintained at all :/
08:58.09Alex[sp3dev]hi, phh. has anyone had success with camera on any of our devices? and what's with fm radio? does the one from tattoo need special amss?
08:58.33phhAlex[sp3dev]: fm radio works
08:58.48Alex[sp3dev]is it in current rootfs?
08:58.54phhthere is nothing needed in rootfs
08:58.56phhwell
08:59.14phhto have fm radio, you must use broadcom closed bluetooth driver
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08:59.39phhI think that klinux's build have it working
08:59.47Alex[sp3dev]how is it controlled? via ioctl or via sysfs?
08:59.58phhthe broadcom driver ?
08:59.59phhdbus
09:00.20phhand for camera, no success at all
09:00.35phhthe problem being the dsp that I don't understand correctly
09:00.59Alex[sp3dev]great. i'll have a look. and what about camera? it seems that there are drivers for most sensors (anyway, documentation is always there and writing one is not much a problem). what do we need on the platform side?
09:02.25phhthat's what I just said /o\
09:02.31phhyou must use *dsp
09:02.52phhand i don't know how. I tried to use existing drivers as is, without much success
09:02.57phhI can't really remember what's the problem
09:03.09phhAlex[sp3dev]: anyhow there is a camera branch on gitorious if you want to start working on it
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10:21.31phhAlex[sp3dev]: btw, concerning fm radio, there is a documentation on the wiki of the protocol
10:21.53phhI mean the HCI protocol, to be used with good old hciattach for example
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12:14.19ToAsTcfhphh: good morning!!
12:15.16ToAsTcfhi gotta say all the struggle to make my hero awesome was a waist. lol as soon as i got the evo i seen how bad my hero sucked
12:27.31phhToAsTcfh: same for me with my previous devices and liqud :p
12:27.45phhand I realized that they are really sluggish :p
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12:28.49dcordeshi
12:30.34dcordesNetRipper, seems like gforge is hating us again. I'm trying to get it solved
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12:32.57ToAsTcfhphh: floyo is having issues with flash player not working
12:33.03ToAsTcfhu run into this
12:33.04ToAsTcfh?
12:33.11ToAsTcfhfroyo
12:33.13ToAsTcfh:P\
12:33.27phhToAsTcfh: uh ?
12:33.30phhno, no problem with that
12:34.03ToAsTcfhdid u use that extra .so in /system/lib/egl
12:34.25phh"that extra" ?
12:34.33phhI use froyo's egl libs yes
12:36.35FordyyFroyo is the latest build?
12:37.28NetRipperdcordes, are you able to fix it?
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12:52.30dcordesNetRipper, no but I hope for mickeyl or florian to take a look. unfortunately everybody seems to be @ bbq today
12:52.52dcordesNetRipper, in the long run it might be best to get access, too
12:53.20dcordesNetRipper, or we could install git on htc-linux.org and move haret there..
12:58.10phhmakkonen: small note about your patch, ramconsole is in SMI1, so it shouldn't be taken in account when computing the used memory size
13:00.39ToAsTcfhphh: yeah i guess like sites like hulu wont play flash content
13:00.47ToAsTcfhidk im gonna flash now
13:01.02phhstill no hulu in france.
13:01.09NetRipperdcordes, well, i can't even open a shell to linuxtogo
13:01.51dcordesNetRipper, it is the same problem with that Gforge platform we faced before.
13:02.04dcordesNetRipper, they updated version in hope it would solve the problem..
13:02.04NetRipperother user accounts do work?
13:02.08NetRipperaha
13:02.13dcordesNetRipper, I can't login either
13:02.26NetRipperi'm wondering if mick/florian would be able to login ;)
13:02.36dcordesNetRipper, is it so damn hot today in .nl too?
13:02.41NetRipperit's odd that the website works properly though, besides projects.linuxtogo.org
13:02.58NetRippernot really, lots of rain coming today
13:03.01NetRipperstorm maybe even
13:03.02dcordesNetRipper, well they got the root access so I guess their login is not processed via howtoforge.
13:03.08ToAsTcfhphh: of course the day before i get my evo. quacomm announces dual cores by the end of the year
13:03.15dcordes27°C here
13:03.20NetRipperhttp://www.buienradar.nl/ns.aspx < see that :(
13:03.22phhToAsTcfh: and ?
13:03.43phhToAsTcfh: it wasn't hidden ...
13:03.46NetRipperwe had a lovely day yesterday though
13:03.53phhthey announced there dual cores months ago
13:03.59ToAsTcfhpromising data and voice on cdma
13:04.18phhpromising 28Mbps on HDPA
13:04.20phhHSPA*
13:04.28ToAsTcfh:O
13:05.33dcordesNetRipper, doesn't look too nice
13:06.59ToAsTcfhphh: did u guys ever figure out mms receive on cdma
13:07.12phhToAsTcfh: did we ever tried to ? :p
13:07.20ToAsTcfh:P
13:07.22ToAsTcfhok
13:07.51phhToAsTcfh: do you know how to read atags ?
13:08.21ToAsTcfhum
13:08.37ToAsTcfhidk lol
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16:43.14power_usrphh: for the updated GPS raph500 changes, is there an updated rootfs that is needed or just a zImage/modules.* file?  bzo mentioned getting a new rootfs, although I don't see a new one on the autobuild.  I tried latest kernel but no GPS luck.
16:44.16phhpower_usr: just rootfs
16:44.37phhok, build bot's down
16:44.42phhor i did something wrong
16:44.47power_usrok.  bzo was right :)
16:45.17power_usrOnce the autobuild is working and throws up a new one, I'll give it a try and let you know
16:45.48phhI'll bypass part of it
16:46.07power_usrOther than GPS, the latest Android is pretty sweet on my raph800 - hadn't tried the latest version in a while
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16:50.50phhpushed
16:50.58phhwe should get an update in less than 20 minutes
16:54.54power_usrit looks like its there already
16:57.01phhright.
16:59.30power_usrit looks to be exact same binary size
16:59.35power_usris that correct?
16:59.59phhwhy not.
17:00.23power_usrit seems like the kernel always changes size!
17:02.48power_usrbooting into android now...
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17:10.29power_usrhot diggity... it WORKED!!!
17:11.03power_usrgoogle maps worked.  I tried navigation, but apparently I first need to download some text to speech app
17:11.16phhget some beers for bzo then :p
17:11.23power_usrheh
17:11.29power_usryup
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17:12.58bzoeh, phh did most of the work for gps
17:13.56power_usrwell, you guys both deserve credit
17:14.50phhbzo: no I should try that on my devices.
17:14.55phhand see if speed/bearing are correct.
17:14.58phhs/no/now/
17:15.04phhor I do the same way as usual
17:15.07phhI let users try.
17:15.56bzoif you detu, what does that prove? :p
17:16.27phhI trust users to tell when something works
17:16.30phhjust not the opposite
17:17.23phhhum.
17:17.29phhno you're right I detu in any way.
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17:46.04bzomeh, the camera gpios seem to be different in cdma
17:48.21phhoO
17:48.33phhweird
17:48.57bzoat least according to the wiki
17:49.15bzoraph800 uses them for sd
17:49.45phhdo you have specific values ?
17:49.56phh(so I can search easier :p)
17:50.13bzothe existing ones for gsm?
17:50.30phhI don't know them by heart /o\
17:50.51bzo30, 91-93
17:50.53phhbzo: oh you're speaking about mmc3 stuff ?
17:51.08bzoyeah
17:51.25phhargh, I thouoght mmc3 doesn't exist
17:51.28phhbut it does for raph800
17:52.01bzoif it does, it seems likely that the diam500 would use a different value like the raph800
17:52.21phhhow many cameras do you have ?
17:52.28bzojust one
17:52.42phhok so iirc you have only 3 gpio to find
17:52.49phhwhere's your haret ? :p
17:53.05bzoah, forgot that other diamonds had 2 cameras
17:53.16bzofeeling lazy today
17:54.00bzoha, the camera branch is a bit messy :p
17:54.19phhno ? :D
17:55.11phhhum in my memories it's not that messy
17:55.51bzoactually it's not that bad. Just some test changes that have to be remembered not to merge back
17:57.48makkonenphh: as far as ramconsole in that patch, I was just super lazy and copied the diamond_fixup line-for-line, and when it worked I didn't look any further.
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18:04.35phhmakkonen: meh ?
18:04.38phhthere is the second bank in diamond ?
18:04.58phhah no nr_bank++;
18:05.11phhright
18:05.18makkonengsm diamond is 64 + 128 like the raph500, yeah
18:09.39phhI mean that we don't use the available memory in SMI2
18:09.46phhsince only one bank is actually declared
18:11.55makkonenoh. I had wondered about that, but just sort of wrote it off since that's how it's been on diamond the whole time.
18:16.31bzophh: haret shows only i2c gpio activity on camera on/off :(
18:16.39phhbzo: oO
18:16.40bzomust mean rpc control...
18:16.55phhbzo: right it's possible
18:16.56phhbut really weird.
18:17.02bzounless i2c could somehow control power
18:17.54phhit could
18:17.59phhbut not on your device.
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18:18.59bzoit's really weird though, because I do see all the cam data/clk/sync stuff in gpio
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18:21.30phhargh
18:21.32phhyou're using polling ?
18:21.49bzoyes, do you think I need to use triggered?
18:22.26phhyes
18:22.34phha reset gpio won't show up on polling
18:22.38phh(but a power one should)
18:22.52makkonen~usb_function_switch
18:22.54apti heard usb_function_switch is /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch
18:22.57makkonenI love you, apt
18:23.06bzoyeah, you would think I would at least see the power, but let me give it a try
18:23.19phhbzo: power could be on a vreg
18:30.22phhoh btw
18:30.41phhI had an idea for the zoombar
18:30.46phhwe could simulate pinch zoom
18:32.20bzophh: no power/reset with triggered either
18:32.30phhbzo: okay.
18:32.33phhnot weird at all.
18:32.40bzonot completely surprised, cdma does not have a gpio reset for BT either
18:32.40phh(and yes i'm ironic)
18:32.52phhit's everything through vreg too ?
18:33.02bzono, bt does use gpio for power
18:33.25bzohaha, maybe it's like the PCs that have no reset button. You have to power off
18:37.20bzoah, I see some vreg entries from cam in the wiki
18:37.29bzofor raph800
18:40.05bzo3 are listed, so perhaps they map to the 3 gpio entries for non-cdma
18:42.41phha reset gpio setted on a vreg ?
18:42.43phhthat'd be really weird
18:42.50phhbut i'm not going to say no.
18:44.19bzoyeah that would seem like a big hack
18:46.04bzocould also be that the front camera could be supported, but was left out
18:46.48bzophh: do you know what VCMPDP is for?
18:46.59phhI think it's the focus
18:47.01phhbut I wouldn't bet on it.
18:47.44bzoand probably only for main camera? I assume front one is simpler fixed focus?
18:48.05phhyup
18:48.32bzowhere did the vreg values come from? wince disassembly?
18:49.01phhdex tracing or dmesg
18:50.02bzobecause unfortunately, the wiki lists the indexes for the cam vreg but not the voltages
18:50.52phhyou don't need voltage I think
18:51.23bzoyou think you can toggle without changing the voltage?
18:52.38phhcheck vreg.c, but I think so
18:53.54bzok, will look some more later, gtg
18:55.34bzoah yes you are right, toggling and setting voltages are separate operations
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19:06.43makkonenphh (or anyone else): any offhand idea why tiwlan would load, die, and unload on raph500? My guess is that the tool to read the calibration data from internal memory has the wrong offset, but I'm not sure it'd look like this: http://pastebin.com/45CsSuYm
19:07.42en1gmai have a htc-titan (USCC) unlocked and am currently running ppck 23569 with spl-2.40  anyhow i see there is a "http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Titan" for the titan....what does that allow me to do?
19:07.51phhmakkonen: get a calibration file, glemsom host one
19:07.58en1gmai mean i checked the wiki but im not sure what it really does
19:08.09phhmakkonen: check logcat
19:08.50en1gmai dont have any cell service at all and i only use the wifi for inet...
19:10.47makkonenen1gma: I think without some real expertise, you won't get very far with the titan. as I recall, it's got even less ram than the vogue, and no one's posted much of anything about getting any of the more recent kernels on it.
19:11.46makkonenthat said, if you want to just play around and see how linux works on your phone, you can probably do that.
19:11.58en1gmai was just looking at the git repo and only a few items mention the titan
19:12.09en1gmadamn i wish i had more memory
19:12.47makkonenyeah. I looked into buying an old one cheap off craigslist just to have a backup phone, and maybe play around with -- but it looked like all the hackers had moved on, and it wasn't really worth the time.
19:13.19makkonenhopefully I'm not spreading misinformation here. that's just what I got from a cursory look around.
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19:13.51en1gmaits the first phone i bought for purely messing around with...i dont have cell service and i just wanted this one as a test phone...got it for $60.00 (a little to much probably) but clean esn and it was unlocked
19:14.45en1gmait originally came from USCC with wm6.0 and i am currently running wm6.5 with GPS radio (original never had gps working with USCC)
19:15.16en1gmabut it seems slow with wm6.5 so i though let me check linux :)
19:16.07en1gmais there any video of linux running on the htc i can see (is there a gui) or is it cli?
19:18.53makkonenwell, most people around here are working with android. you probably know what that looks like. there's also a number of other linux phone platforms (FSO, Maemo... others that I'm forgetting)... I don't think any of them are working in a meaningful way on the titan. definitely not in a everyday-usable way.
19:21.43en1gmai have ran android (i think 1.5) from an sd-card with haret.exe before
19:21.55en1gmait didnt have wifi working or i probably would have stayed with it
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19:25.21en1gmai just seen a youtube video of ubuntu on a htc-touch pro2
19:26.09GNUtoo|laptopen1gma, nice where is that video?
19:26.13GNUtoo|laptophi btw
19:27.23GNUtoo|laptopok I found some
19:30.32en1gmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE_rDay9RJ8
19:31.03phhGNUtoo|laptop: yes, "rhobubuntu" is really well developped
19:31.05phhit's even usable
19:31.08GNUtoo|laptopok
19:31.16GNUtoo|laptopdoes it have openoffice?
19:31.21GNUtoo|laptopbecause I saw abiword
19:31.31en1gmait looks like there was 2 open office apps
19:31.31phhopenoffice with 200MB of memory ?
19:31.32phhhum.
19:31.37phhanyway, no
19:31.37GNUtoo|laptopah ok lol
19:31.38phhbut you can install it
19:32.01en1gmacan someone tell me why we have to run android (at least for the titan) on the sd-card
19:32.04jonprythere is always the page file :-)
19:32.05GNUtoo|laptopbecause there are some quite powerfull devices like snapdragoon ones with 512M of ram
19:32.08en1gmai want to install it so it is faster
19:32.09GNUtoo|laptopso I wondered...
19:37.44makkonenphh: yeah, not creating the wifi-calibration. works fine if I manually stick in glemsom's. seems like all the mtd modules/devs aren't working. Might be a bug in my build process, I guess.
19:38.16phhmakkonen: mtd doesn't work at all ?
19:38.20phhor it's wrong address ?
19:39.58makkonenwell, trying to insmod mtdchar is failing. on closer inspection, because it doesn't exist. So definitely a problem with my module building process. :-)
19:41.23phhmakkonen: you know I pushed your patch ?
19:41.25phhso you can use glemsom's
19:41.33makkonenyeah. just about to test with it.
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20:18.41makkonenyay everything works. Except it's slow as molasses. 32+128 is not great for android.
20:26.18en1gmamy titan is 256/64 it should work pretty good shouldnt it?
20:27.12phhen1gma: 256 RAM ?
20:27.27phhmakkonen: enable the nr_banks++; ?
20:27.29en1gma256 nand
20:27.36en1gma64 ram
20:27.54phhen1gma: you won't run many things.
20:28.10en1gmai thought you were saying you have 32ram 128flash
20:28.19makkonenphh: yeah, guess that's worth a try. any idea why it's disabled on diamond?
20:28.31phhmakkonen: because it just crashes the whole thing
20:28.45en1gmai mean i thought makkonen was saying he had 32ram and 128flash
20:29.10makkonenen1gma: no, 32mb SMI + 128mb EBI... so 2.5x the RAM you've got, and it's agonizingly slow and pops up application not responding errors all the time.
20:29.11phhen1gma: na, it's 32MB SMI (*2 actually)+ 128MB EBI
20:29.21phhmakkonen: but you've got 64MB SMI.
20:29.29en1gmaahh ok...my bad
20:29.50en1gmadang any of you have an extra phone to cell cheap so i can mess with linux/android on it
20:30.00en1gmai dont care if esn is good because i only use wifi
20:30.19makkonenoh, the diamond doesn't actually have it? I assumed it had it... my guess was that they copied the gsm diamond's memory layout wholesale over to the raph500.
20:30.28makkonen(it = 2nd SMI bank)
20:30.44phhmakkonen: na both have 2 SMI
20:30.50en1gmai have a good ppc6800 with clean esn with wm6.5 and spl-2.40 running on it and a nice video card (msi 8800gts 512mb)
20:30.54phhbut still the kernel  crashes when I try to use it.
20:31.03makkoneni see
20:31.21phhif you can get it to work it'd be nice
20:31.40makkonenI don't have a lot of hope that I'll succeed where you failed.
20:31.50phhI didn't try hard
20:31.56makkonenbut I will probably play with it a bit and see what happens.
20:31.56phhI didn't even read the ramconsole
20:40.19stinebdphh: problem with the libh_l bot again?
20:43.33NetRipperhmm, this is the first time i have the famous blue screen on the HD2
20:43.39stinebdok fixed
20:43.52stinebdguess it doesn't like not being on a branch
20:44.14NetRipperdidn't have this before... only change in winmo is that i'm using full brightness of the screen.. could it be related..
20:46.23NetRipperdont have it now, so seems unrelated
20:46.23NetRipper:)
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21:26.09stinebdphh: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/06/acer-liquid-gets-early-android-2-2-rom-unstable-cpu-unlock-vid/
21:26.35stinebdby some crazy guy named phhusson
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22:08.50ALoGeNosup dude :)
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22:44.47CazHanyone here with a diamond running android? My battery measurements are really strange. Just wanna know if this i normal?
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23:45.44vpeezysup peeps. got a questions about homescreen replacements.  can i run more then one at once? i like slidescreen but launcher pro gives me multiple homescreens which is perfect. can i use them both?

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