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03:56.52rocker2344damn kernal panic. not syncing. rebooting in 7 seconds
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04:17.42msd18rocker
04:17.54msd18wat isnt it syncing
04:29.01rocker2344mt ext2 for xdandroid
04:29.05rocker2344my*
04:30.22rocker2344http://www.speedtest.net/result/835990753.png  yum wireless n
04:56.35msd18is it having a problem mounting rootfs?
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05:29.14rocker2344wooo ping out
05:30.41XDS2010Cortex A8 , is it more powerful than the processor in the N1 ?
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08:12.16rafyvittosnapdragon cpus are cortex-A8...
08:12.51rafyvittosame with omap3xxx etc
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09:35.21tmzthttp://sven.killig.de/android/console.html
09:35.31tmztphh: something about scheduling while atomic
09:37.02tmztComment out the following lines:
09:37.03tmztarch/arm/kernel/setup.c:736
09:37.03tmztkernel/sched.c:4357-4358 (A bit rude, I know. It's neccessary because of this error. If you have a cleaner idea, please let me know!)
09:37.05tmztinit.rc:11, 308-310
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11:19.07CazHAnybody here that has XDAndroid running a diamond?
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11:31.32kalemasCazH: yes
11:35.54CazHWhat kind of battery life do you get?
11:36.11CazHAnd is there any way to manual turn off the screen?
11:38.24CazHkalemas oh and does the camera work?
11:42.43kalemasCazH: i have almost died battery so i have equal battery life in android and windows.
11:42.43kalemastry to press red button to turn off screen. and camera, some months ago i've tried camera and got stragnge pictures, for now - i don't know.
11:44.06CazHOkay, I just got this diamond 2nd hand a couple of hours ago so don't know the state of my battery was just chocked that it only lasted 3-4 hours in xdandroid
11:44.43tmztpower management isn't completely working
11:46.01kalemasCazH: what system.sqsh do you use?
11:46.11CazHYeah figure that much but hope it was better, I have a old diamond with a broken screen must see if I can find it a steal the battery in the hopes that ones bettery
11:47.32CazHkalemas,  please forgive my ignorance but what system.sqsh ? And how do I check which I have? :)
11:48.38kalemasCazH: you got android package from connect-utb?
11:49.02CazHNope couldn't get that one working
11:49.18CazHI'm using something I found of http://balsat.hopto.org/
11:49.40CazHThe lastest avalible from there :)
11:50.14kalemasCazH: have you formated your internal storage for it?
11:50.19CazHyeah
11:50.26CazHa fat paration and a ext22
11:50.29CazHext2*
11:53.22kalemasCazH: nice, if you do not know there is a way to boot android with out formatting
11:53.29kalemas,but could some one tell me what is more preferable system.sqsh or ext2 partition?
11:53.58CazHI've tried that package from connect-utb but it kept hanging at the nexus one boot screen thingy
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11:56.04kalemasCazH: yes, me to, nice animation :^)  i have updated kernel and using phh system.sqsh  from xdandroid.southcape.org
11:56.50CazHHate that animation must have looked at it for 1½ hour in total :P
11:57.13CazHthe first 30 mins it was beatiful but after that :@
11:58.10kalemasCazH: LOL
11:58.52CazHwhat is the differnce from phh system.sqsh and the one I'm using where i format the internal memory? besides the way it's installed?
11:59.50kalemasCazH: previous connect-utb package was nice, with 3d support, now i do not see it nowhere.
12:00.57CazHthinks something is very wrong with the battery usage, 40% lost in 14 minuts :S
12:01.24CazHOkay :)
12:02.13kalemasCazH: i think formatting internal storage could give performance growth, but i do not know
12:04.19CazHYeah squashfs isn't really a high performance fs :)
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12:12.34CazHTime to check out winmo and see if I can get better battery life or the battery really is dead :)
12:14.00CazHand winmo reports 80% battery life right after a reboot where xdandroid said 50%, anybody care to guess why xdandroid reports so little? :)
12:38.55tmztphh: do we have this patch? https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/chrome/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc30f3dfd748f59cf3dcd5eece967d539e16bc0c
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14:29.40thedicemasterohh, can anyone tell me what this means?: msmfb: full update starting
14:29.44thedicemasterfake vsync
14:30.07thedicemastermsmfb_start_dma 60.000 ms after vsync request
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14:39.20tmztis it causing problems?
14:39.33tmztessentially mddi can do partial screen updates but it's not really used
14:39.39tmztfull just means not partial
14:40.03tmztthose messages come from debugging being enabled in the msmfb driver that probably isn't needed
14:42.09phhtmzt: partial are really used
14:42.16phhafaik
14:42.23phhfull update is sent only on resume
14:42.23tmztyeah, I  think they are now
14:42.25tmztyour right
14:42.33tmztdid you see my post to you earlier?
14:42.40tmztit might help the swa issue
14:42.52phhswa ?
14:43.05tmztscheduling while atomic
14:43.20phhwe've got those ones ? hum
14:43.47tmzt08:38 < tmzt> phh: do we have this patch?
14:43.47tmzthttps://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/chrome/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc30f3dfd748f59cf3dcd5eece967d539e16bc0c
14:43.53phhyes i've seen this
14:43.59tmztbut I don't know if msmfb or htcfb calls that update function
14:44.05tmztwhich they've moved to a work queue
14:45.26[acl]wow some animal took apart his tp2 to find the testpoits for jtag ? i have no idea what that even is.
14:45.52tmztwhat jtag is?
14:46.04phhtmzt: direct access to cpu
14:46.31phhbasically
14:46.58tmztyeah, I'm asking acl is that's what he's asking
14:47.10[acl]i didnt know what jtag was
14:47.14[acl]thanks for clearing it up
14:47.22[acl]now it makes more sense.
14:47.48phh(and being linked to the cpu, you can do hum.... anything ? :p)
14:48.13[acl]well he was reading my quest for 3d on the tp2 and he decided to take his appart
14:48.22tmztincluding flash
14:48.31tmzt3d in windows mobile?
14:48.56[acl]no 3d in android. .. winmo 3d works really well actually
14:49.11tmztI've found some interesting things about the imageon in apdragon
14:49.19[acl]ooo do tell
14:49.25tmztwhat doesn't work in android?
14:49.35[acl]3d on rhodium.
14:49.36tmzthmm, z430 might be really sradeon
14:49.41tmztmeaning open driver
14:49.46tmztpossibly
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15:32.05IncognitoMan<[acl]> 3d on rhodium.
15:32.08IncognitoMandont rub it in D:
15:33.03phh[acl]: perhaps sound ? :p
15:33.38[acl]maybe this guy can find out whats up with sound too
15:33.39[acl]http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=337205&d=1275623511
15:33.41IncognitoManbluetooth
15:33.51IncognitoMan( although thats not really important imo )
15:34.14IncognitoManand...camera
15:36.48[acl]im begining to hate ppcgeeks
15:37.09IncognitoManive never really liked ppcgeeks tbh but thats just me
15:37.12phhIncognitoMan: bluetooth is an ""easy"" way to get sound :D
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15:37.22IncognitoManphh, true...it is
15:37.23phh[acl]: so many chips oO
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15:37.45IncognitoManhowever not something id prefer due to a lack of bluetooth devices
15:37.50[acl]phh: im hoping for good news. So i can move on and work on something else.
15:37.56IncognitoManand the only thing id use bluetooth for is the car diag app
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15:41.27[acl]i love these posts "so i did some computers in colleges .. how can i help dev?"
15:42.10phhme too.
15:42.42[acl]phh: haha .. i bet you say the same bout us lesser code monkey devs.
15:42.59phh[acl]: no
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15:43.10phhI think you've noticed I'm stucked like you.
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16:35.08bzophh: gps working on my diam500 :)
16:35.15phhcool
16:35.19phhtest tool or libhardware ?
16:35.22phhreports speed correctly ?
16:35.29bzoeven google nav works perfectly
16:35.31bzolibhardware
16:35.37phhgood for everyone then :D
16:35.47bzoeh, speed needs a little work. It says I'm going 150mph
16:35.53bzobut it doesn't bother google nav
16:36.16phhlol
16:36.24phhbearing's correct ?
16:36.31bzoyep
16:36.44phhthat's enough to get most softwares working :p
16:37.21bzospeed is weird. I'm currently dividing by 10.0 like everything else
16:37.32bzobut I don't see any logical conversion from 25mph to 150mph
16:37.57bzosatellite reporting (via position update) is working too
16:38.08bzoit will be easy to do the satellite status only update as well
16:38.43phhmeter/second ?
16:38.43phhkilometer/hour ?
16:39.03bzoI was using gpstest to view, so it must do the conversion to mph
16:39.14bzohowever, you may be right, it may be a meter/second type unit
16:40.02bzoalso, the other weird thing is that the rpc altitude field = the nmea altitude + geoid ellipsoid height
16:40.16bzonot sure what android expects
16:40.27phhi'm not sure either
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16:40.39bzoI guess it doesn't really matter
16:41.48bzoso after gps is turned on, sleep doesn't seem to work anymore. Does this happen to all devices?
16:42.00bzoerr,even after gps is turned off
16:42.13phhmore or less
16:42.24phha lot of time after it, it might sleep again
16:42.39phhI haven't seen any reproductible scheme ATM
16:43.21bzobah, yet another sleep problem
16:43.50phh:p
16:44.21bzobtw, it is really funny when you try to init the diam500 with the 6125 ams, basically everthing stops working :p
16:44.51phhit doesn't reset ?
16:45.10bzono, just constant dex timeouts with the phone locking up periodically
16:45.42phhah. weird.
16:45.47phhyou shouldn't get that on normal kernel
16:45.49phhbut nvm
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16:46.47bzoalso, the segfault problem was that you forgot to fix the endianness of the rpc fields
16:46.58bzoso querying the # satellites resulted in a huge #
16:47.25phhreally ?
16:47.26phhhum
16:47.34phhI was pretty sure I thought about it almost everywhere /o\
16:47.50bzoalmost everywhere :p
16:47.52phh:p
16:47.55bzohehe
16:48.27bzodo you know if be32_to_cpu supposed to be used in userland?
16:49.56phhI think htonl and friends are the one who are supposed to be used
16:51.02bzoyeah, I used that too because I couldn't figure out how to use the be32 stuff
16:51.18bzoit just feel a bit like a hack since it is supposed to be for ip address stuff, but I guess it does the same thing
16:51.53phhno it's not for ip address
16:52.00phhit's "host to network long"
16:52.20phhA9<->A11 rpc IS network transmission
16:52.42bzook
16:53.35bzoanyways, my patch should be ready pretty soon. Needs some cleanup, and perhaps I should recruit some testers with the binary
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16:53.53tmztalways get source in first, then test binaries
16:54.42bzowith the auto build stuff, not sure I want the stuff pushed before knowing it works reasonably well...
16:54.53phhbzo: don't worry.
16:54.56tmztyou can push it to a new branch
16:55.02phhit's not like it's written quite everywhere that it's unsupported
16:56.56thedicemasterlittle question for android on an ext2 partition, would all i need to get it to work is a startup.txt that points to the ext2 partition, and the contents of a system.sqsh extracted to the ext2? or are there some more significant file changes? i could install a a pre-made ext2 android package, but i'd rather convert my current setup to ext2.
16:57.52bzophh: to turn off the nmea stuff, I just commented out opening of dev/smd27. Does that suffice?
16:58.10phhbzo: I'd say yes
16:58.13phhbut wouldn't bet on it.
16:59.00bzook, I'll leave it like that and see what happens
16:59.09bzoworks on the diam500, but smd27 is not active either
16:59.23phhwell if it works on diam500 it should work everywhere
16:59.34phhthe only thing I feared is the select(-1) or something like that somewhere :p
16:59.58bzoyeah, me too, but I didn't see any problems yet from that
17:00.08bzomaybe it would be safer to comment that out too
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20:46.04NetRipperah well.
20:46.12NetRipperi knew it was a stupid error i had with haret
20:46.18phh?
20:46.21NetRipperthat initrd offset patch
20:46.27NetRipperi thought i made a mistake in the code
20:46.38NetRipperinstead, i just set initrdoffset 0x300000
20:46.41NetRipperinstead of initrd_offset
20:46.44NetRipper..
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22:10.52LeTamaNetripper, lol, that explains it
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23:07.10ali12341anyone heard about linux for nokia 5800? apparently it is freescale...
23:09.26tmztif it's anything like the motomagx version it's pretty much pointless
23:09.36tmztbut can you get more details?
23:10.05tmzthow knew is that thing?
23:11.32ali12341it's two years old but still on sale
23:11.47ali12341it's a smartphone, 640x360 screen
23:11.57ali12341128mb ram, 128mb flash
23:12.05ali12341details are quite sketchy though
23:12.12ali12341it runs S60 normally
23:12.15tmztif it's i.MX31 with external baseband it could well be supported
23:12.19tmztbut you need a bootloader
23:12.38ali12341supposedly it is freescale MXC300-30 which has integrated baseband
23:12.38tmzthopefully the linaro work will simplify things, devicetree etc.
23:12.46tmztright, then like the motomagx
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23:12.59tmztyou'd have to start with that kernel, but the firmware is probably completely different
23:13.12ali12341sure. just wondered if anyone heard of an existing project
23:13.21ali12341what's this motomagx?
23:14.10ali12341oh its not a phone
23:14.22tmztlater motorola phones following ezx
23:14.29tmztsource at opensource.motorola.com
23:14.35tmztuse that cpu/marm device
23:14.41ali12341right. but that's not much use. hardest part will be making a bootloader
23:14.48tmztand security
23:14.58tmztnobody has a working s60 bootloader that I know of
23:15.06tmztstill waiting for an n95 port
23:15.08ali12341well.. yeah... but making a bootloader is only hard because of security
23:15.12ali12341there's always jtag
23:15.23tmztnot just symbian security, also the mxc security
23:16.11ali12341is it that bad?
23:16.32tmztI don't know if it's enabled
23:16.48tmztthere's a bunch of features they can use for lockdown but it might not be used
23:16.48ali12341it will be on this, it's their "comes with music" fone, and uses drm'd up wma
23:16.54tmztlike on omap850 :)
23:17.09tmztyeah, probably on dsp
23:17.25ali12341however, if i am booting up from scratch presumably the security will be off at that point
23:17.28tmztif I remember there's marm, mdsp, and another dsp
23:17.42tmztwhat kind of firmware does it use?
23:17.48ali12341nokia firmware :)
23:17.50tmztI don't know anything about symbian from that respect
23:17.55tmztbootloader firmware
23:17.57ali12341nor do i
23:18.02tmztflashing protocols, etc.
23:18.20ali12341i just renewed my contract and it was cheaper to have a new contract and free phone, than to take the loyalty discount
23:18.26ali12341and this was the best phone they had so....
23:18.28tmztwith?
23:18.35ali12341with t-mobile
23:18.39tmztsome uk carriers have good android phones
23:18.47tmztwith flashable bootloaders
23:18.51ali12341i already have a n900
23:19.09tmztyeah
23:19.16ali12341just wondering if this free fone that i didn't even want will actually be useful to me in any way
23:19.25ali12341i already determined that the "comes with music" is crap
23:19.34ali12341you can't even use the uk store on linux
23:19.39ali12341or mac for that matter
23:19.40tmztcould be fun
23:19.48ali12341yet i can browse the indian store in english
23:19.57ali12341you can download with the phone of course
23:20.08ali12341but what if, you know, i wanted to know what actual music they have before buying?
23:20.39tmztso jtag, have fun with that
23:21.05tmztif you can't use openocd there's another program out there targeted at cell phones
23:21.32ali12341i use urjtag i think
23:21.38ali12341can't remember, i tried them all
23:22.18tmzthttp://forum.gtibox.com/showthread.php?t=8977
23:22.35ali12341this is the second best phone they had for free: http://www.techhail.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/LG-Pop-GD510.JPG
23:22.45ali12341got to laugh at the cheezy android desktop rip-off
23:22.55tmztclean though
23:23.09ali12341true
23:23.10tmztif it was android that would be a nice looking phone
23:23.31ali12341it looks kind of 80s
23:23.39ali12341wouldn't look out of place in a delorean :)
23:24.05tmztdo you have the dct connection under the battery?
23:24.13ali12341i don't have the phone yet
23:24.54ali12341i only ordered it like 2 hours ago :)
23:26.59thedicemastergreat, getting xdandroid running off ext2 partition isn't going well.
23:27.35tmzthttp://gsmserver.com/shop/cables/gsm_products_cables/combo_jaf_mt_box_cable_for_nokia_5800.php
23:27.40tmztcan't see the connector
23:27.48ali12341i found the service manual
23:27.55ali12341gotta sign up for some crap forum first thouh
23:28.36thedicemastervirtual keyboard doesn't work, so i can't get through the initial setup >_<
23:28.49ali12341interesting to see that handheld with full schematics. no networking but i can live with that.
23:29.13ali12341i dunno what companies think they are protecting by not releasing the schematics/hardware details
23:29.22ali12341if someone wants to clone it that's not going to stop them
23:29.47tmzttouch 2 from 15 a month?
23:30.04ali12341i pay £10 a month
23:30.25tmztah, I don't even know what a Touch 2 is
23:30.32tmztbut it has 5 ugly buttons
23:30.36ali12341it's some htc thing
23:31.38tmztinternet booster?
23:31.50ali12341yeah
23:32.25ali12341lol it has a "betty-wilma shield"
23:35.04ali12341sweet, full schemes :)
23:40.29ali12341there's a serial port on the bottom under battery
23:43.13tmzthttp://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-215949.html
23:44.15ali12341what does a dct connector look like?
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23:52.50ali12341ok yeah. BB5/FBUS
23:53.14tmzthttp://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f299/guide-convert-nokia-5800-xpressmusic-rm-356-navigation-edition-846371/
23:53.23tmztfbus that's what I meant
23:53.25ali12341looks like there's a large unlocking community based around a few people selling hacking kits and not giving details how they work :)
23:53.28tmztdct is the old cable
23:53.36tmztright, as expected
23:53.38ali12341yeah it has a fbus connector
23:53.51tmztmight be 3.3v not 5v though
23:53.57ali12341it is labelled as rx/tx on the schemes, so serial protocol of some kind
23:56.01tmzthttp://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f299/bb5-counter-reset-v1-0-a-616646/index4.html#post3795399

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